[RBW] WTB: SimpleOne/ QB wheelset

[Trevor saxton]

Hi Chris 

I have two used set of wheels, one pricier than the other, email me off line at 
saxton...@gmail.com

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Re: [RBW] Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[Patrick in VT]

On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 6:05:17 PM UTC-5, David G wrote:
>
> I have used tubeless MTB and 650B tires with sealant, and tubular 
> cyclocross tires with sealant. My impression is that tubular cyclocross 
> tires with sealant are more resistant to pinprick-style punctures compared 
> to sealant-less tubulars, but are nowhere near as flatproof as true 
> tubeless tires. In my experience, once a cyclocross tubular has a 
> legitimate puncture (not some tiny leak), no amount of additional Stan's 
> sealant or Vittoria Pit Stop latex foam will revive it. 
> - David G in SF
>

pretty much my experience as well.  but, one tip to increase the 
effectiveness of sealant in tubulars is to add some glitter - it helps 
"clotting" and will seal up the puncture better than just the sealant on 
its own.   also, keep in mind that Stans uses ammonia (as an anticoagulant) 
- conventional wisdom says that will degrade latex tubes/tubulars over 
time.  Caffelatex doesn't use ammonia, so is the better sealant for latex 
tubulars.  Stans works well with tubulars using butyl inner-tubes.

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Re: [RBW] Riv-country visit

[Amit Singh]

Looking forward to it!

On Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:01:09 UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Cool. This smells like a mix terrain ride toward diablo. I hear there's 
>  Green Ranch somewhere beyond Diablo. 

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[RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Adam]

If you all plan a ride earlyish in the day on the 28th I'm game.

Hope to meet some of you then.

On Dec 19, 6:33 am, Amit Singh  wrote:
> Looking forward to it!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 18 December 2012 20:01:09 UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> > Cool. This smells like a mix terrain ride toward diablo. I hear there's
> >  Green Ranch somewhere beyond Diablo.

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Re: [RBW] Riv-country visit

[Lee Chae]

I ought to be available next week and would do my best to join up! I could
probably recruit a Riv-riders, though I'll probably leave the fixed gear
Quickbeam at home. It needs a break from the commute.

Best wishes to you RBWers,
Lee
SF, CA


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Joe Bunik  wrote:

> Hey Jim
>
> Let us know when you'll be around, holiday time will be hectic but
> if'n I'm available I'd be more than happy to show you round 'Nut
> Creek. Same offer extends to all travelers - just requires a heads-up.
>
> Happy holidays to all!
> =- Joe Bunik
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
>
> On 12/17/12, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery  wrote:
> > I just put my (vaguely Riv-ish) bike and camping/touring stuff on a
> train,
> > with plans to retrieve it in a week at the Amtrak station on Oakland.
> From
> > there, I have about 10 days of no plans but to ride and explore and camp
> > and hopefully befriend some like-minded locals. I'll stop by RBWHQ, of
> > course, if I manage to work around Riv's holiday schedule.
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build

[Montclair BobbyB]

*I want to try to put one inside an old French headlight housing...*
*
*
Alex, I did something similar with a B&M Lumotec Lyt on an older (70s) 
Gazelle Sport Luxe... It did require a bit of Dremel-tooling and electrical 
tape, but I was very pleased with the result, and was able to retrofit a 
modern LED dyno light into the original Peerless headlight casing that came 
with the Gazelle. In fact I plan to do the same for the men's version of 
the same bike (which I am finishing up this winter)...

Pic here:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/5723583907/in/set-72157626393170171

Good luck, please share pics when your project is complete.

Peace,
BB

On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:46:16 PM UTC-5, Alex Moll wrote:
>
> Hi Toshi,
>
> Does your Cyo still work? I want to try to put one inside an old French 
> headlight housing, so if you just snapped off the mount, I'd be interested 
> in buying it from you.
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:38:12 PM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote:
>>
>> I ordered a B&M Luxos dyno light that should come before year end. 
>> Unfortunately I snapped my IQ Cyo off the mount in a minor spill :(. 
>> Well, the new light has a wider beam and more illumination, so I'm 
>> very hopeful that it will do everything I want. It might not be as 
>> good jewelry though :). 
>>
>> Toshi 
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:30 PM, PATRICK MOORE  
>> wrote: 
>>
>> > I fully admit that my purchase of the SON wheel (for '03 Curt) was a 
>> > vanity purchase, but I don't have regrets. Those hubs are jewelry. (If 
>> > you get a SON, you can't do otherwise than buy an expensive Edeluxe 
>> > lamp.) 
>> > 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Riv-country visit

[Jim Mather]

Maybe we need to do multiple rides: Mt Diablo and Mt Tam. January 1st
is a traditional day for cyclists to climb Mt Diablo.

jim m
wc ca


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Lee Chae  wrote:
> I ought to be available next week and would do my best to join up! I could
> probably recruit a Riv-riders, though I'll probably leave the fixed gear
> Quickbeam at home. It needs a break from the commute.
>
> Best wishes to you RBWers,
> Lee
> SF, CA
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Joe Bunik  wrote:
>>
>> Hey Jim
>>
>> Let us know when you'll be around, holiday time will be hectic but
>> if'n I'm available I'd be more than happy to show you round 'Nut
>> Creek. Same offer extends to all travelers - just requires a heads-up.
>>
>> Happy holidays to all!
>> =- Joe Bunik
>> Walnut Creek, CA
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/12, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery  wrote:
>> > I just put my (vaguely Riv-ish) bike and camping/touring stuff on a
>> > train,
>> > with plans to retrieve it in a week at the Amtrak station on Oakland.
>> > From
>> > there, I have about 10 days of no plans but to ride and explore and camp
>> > and hopefully befriend some like-minded locals. I'll stop by RBWHQ, of
>> > course, if I manage to work around Riv's holiday schedule.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[Jeremy Till]

back to the original topic...in terms of lightish silver 32 hole rims, I 
have the H Plus Son TB 14 rims on my Quickbeam and they'd probably suit 
your build well.  They're light, 32 hole, polished silver, double 
eyeletted, box section, 22mm wide and have no branding aside from some 
almost imperceptible logos around the valve hole.

Dirty pictures here: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/8003630591/in/set-72157631575326772

On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:34:54 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I am in the very fortunate situation of anticipating the present 
> (adverbial) arrival of a 58X57 cm Ram, offered rather unexpectedly and 
> very graciously at poor-boy's terms by listmember Tim Whalen (thanks, 
> Tim). I have been offered, very graciously, discount and even free 
> parts by listmembers, but I'd like to see photos and build lists of 
> others' Rams. 
>
> I've followed the recent post on the Ram build of course but the OP's 
> ideas are rather different from mine. 
>
> I plan (at the moment; no one can hold me to resolution) to build mine 
> as a comfortable multispeed gofast to fill the now empty "derailleur 
> road" category, meaning drops, modest load carrying capacity, and 
> relatively uncomplicated gearing -- perhaps a 5 speed half step 46/42 
> (I have plenty of 14-28s) for me nice close gaps between 88" and 40" 
> with cruising gears in the second cog, and a 5 speed fw hub would not 
> have to be dished. (I may have a NNP 30 t Pro 5 Vis ring to trade for 
> a decent ditto 42, if anyone is interested.) 
>
> Or, a 46/30 with, say, a 14-15-16-18-18-19-21-23 cassette for a 
> slightly lower bottom end. 
>
> No rack, but a Carradice Junior; possibly a dyno hub in the future, dt 
> shifters (shit, sold the last pair of Retrofrictions earlier this 
> year), original issue Flite, older Keo Pluses, and, I hope, Maes 
> Parallels and Grand Bois Cerf blue or green. Don't need fenders here 
> in NM except a few weeks a year. I want to find old stock Dura Ace 
> brake levers -- may have a pair. 
>
> Am still debating whether I want to try tubulars (with Stans). 
>
> Here is what I have in my box right now, from memory: 
>
> Flite 
> Keos 
> Pro 5 Vis crankset, 170 
> 44, 46 and 30 t rings 
> FWs 
> Campy Record hs 
>
> Need (with preferred specifics, understanding that I may not get them): 
>
> Stem (8 cm Pearl) 
> Bar (37 or 38 cm Grand Bois Maes Parallel copy) 
> Tape: Lizard Skins DSP 
> Levers (pre STI Dura Ace aero) 
> Calipers (nice, forged, silver, normal reach single pivots: RGC, 600, 
> S Pro/Cyclone) 
> BB (Phil 115) 
> Seat post (silver, lots of setback -- I like the old Dura Ace from 20 
> years ago) 
> Rims (particularly interested in advice for silver, lightish, 32 or 36 
> hole rims) 
> Hubs (Phil would be nice) 
> Skewers (allen bolts or skewers) 
> Tires (GB Cerf) 
> Chain 
> Shifters (Simplex; wish I hadn't sold) 
> Derailleurs (Dura Ace 7200, 7400; Superbe Pro) 
>
> This will be a longish term project, tho' I will start out with what I 
> can get and replace as I can afford. 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> - 
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> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW 
> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html 
> - 
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[RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Jeremy Till]

I'm in the East Bay but headed to Massachusetts for the holiday, back after 
the 28th.  Diablo on the 1st would be fun!

On Monday, December 17, 2012 12:15:26 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> I just put my (vaguely Riv-ish) bike and camping/touring stuff on a train, 
> with plans to retrieve it in a week at the Amtrak station on Oakland. From 
> there, I have about 10 days of no plans but to ride and explore and camp 
> and hopefully befriend some like-minded locals. I'll stop by RBWHQ, of 
> course, if I manage to work around Riv's holiday schedule.
>

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build

[Kelly]

You're gazelles are prettier than mine. 

Then again all your bikes are.. 

Looking good

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[Peter Morgano]

Nice wheels but not the dirty pictures that term brings to mind, Haha.
On Dec 19, 2012 11:59 AM, "Jeremy Till"  wrote:

> back to the original topic...in terms of lightish silver 32 hole rims, I
> have the H Plus Son TB 14 rims on my Quickbeam and they'd probably suit
> your build well.  They're light, 32 hole, polished silver, double
> eyeletted, box section, 22mm wide and have no branding aside from some
> almost imperceptible logos around the valve hole.
>
> Dirty pictures here:
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/8003630591/in/set-72157631575326772
>
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:34:54 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I am in the very fortunate situation of anticipating the present
>> (adverbial) arrival of a 58X57 cm Ram, offered rather unexpectedly and
>> very graciously at poor-boy's terms by listmember Tim Whalen (thanks,
>> Tim). I have been offered, very graciously, discount and even free
>> parts by listmembers, but I'd like to see photos and build lists of
>> others' Rams.
>>
>> I've followed the recent post on the Ram build of course but the OP's
>> ideas are rather different from mine.
>>
>> I plan (at the moment; no one can hold me to resolution) to build mine
>> as a comfortable multispeed gofast to fill the now empty "derailleur
>> road" category, meaning drops, modest load carrying capacity, and
>> relatively uncomplicated gearing -- perhaps a 5 speed half step 46/42
>> (I have plenty of 14-28s) for me nice close gaps between 88" and 40"
>> with cruising gears in the second cog, and a 5 speed fw hub would not
>> have to be dished. (I may have a NNP 30 t Pro 5 Vis ring to trade for
>> a decent ditto 42, if anyone is interested.)
>>
>> Or, a 46/30 with, say, a 14-15-16-18-18-19-21-23 cassette for a
>> slightly lower bottom end.
>>
>> No rack, but a Carradice Junior; possibly a dyno hub in the future, dt
>> shifters (shit, sold the last pair of Retrofrictions earlier this
>> year), original issue Flite, older Keo Pluses, and, I hope, Maes
>> Parallels and Grand Bois Cerf blue or green. Don't need fenders here
>> in NM except a few weeks a year. I want to find old stock Dura Ace
>> brake levers -- may have a pair.
>>
>> Am still debating whether I want to try tubulars (with Stans).
>>
>> Here is what I have in my box right now, from memory:
>>
>> Flite
>> Keos
>> Pro 5 Vis crankset, 170
>> 44, 46 and 30 t rings
>> FWs
>> Campy Record hs
>>
>> Need (with preferred specifics, understanding that I may not get them):
>>
>> Stem (8 cm Pearl)
>> Bar (37 or 38 cm Grand Bois Maes Parallel copy)
>> Tape: Lizard Skins DSP
>> Levers (pre STI Dura Ace aero)
>> Calipers (nice, forged, silver, normal reach single pivots: RGC, 600,
>> S Pro/Cyclone)
>> BB (Phil 115)
>> Seat post (silver, lots of setback -- I like the old Dura Ace from 20
>> years ago)
>> Rims (particularly interested in advice for silver, lightish, 32 or 36
>> hole rims)
>> Hubs (Phil would be nice)
>> Skewers (allen bolts or skewers)
>> Tires (GB Cerf)
>> Chain
>> Shifters (Simplex; wish I hadn't sold)
>> Derailleurs (Dura Ace 7200, 7400; Superbe Pro)
>>
>> This will be a longish term project, tho' I will start out with what I
>> can get and replace as I can afford.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> -
>> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA
>> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW
>> http://resumespecialties.com/**index.html
>> -
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[RBW] Re: WTB: SimpleOne/ QB wheelset

[Christopher Murray]

On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:51:24 PM UTC-6, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> Howdy!
>
> Looking for a wheelset for my new SimpleOne (actually a QuickOne- long 
> story). Trying to get it together on a budget and was hoping to find some 
> used wheels. Open to anything- new, used, trades, etc. 
>
> Thanks! 
> cm
>
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[RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Let's plan it: Mt Diablo ride on NYD. Maybe Grant and some of the other Riv 
folk will join. One of you locals should fill in the details of where and when. 
This is gonna be great.

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[RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[EastBayGuy]

I'm in for Mt.D NYD...

Dustin Goodwin

WC Ca

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build

[Tom Harrop]

Kelly, the new bike looks amazing, where did you find the frame? How does 
it compare to the AHH?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Dan McNamara]

I would be up for a Diablo ride on New Year's Day. Or any Mt. Tam
adventures.

Hmmm. Need to test the ankle and make sure it is ready. Maybe it won't rain
this weekend.

Dan

Marin


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, EastBayGuy  wrote:

> I'm in for Mt.D NYD...
>
> Dustin Goodwin
>
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build

[Kelly]

Tom,

Found at Rivendell, then sent off to paint. 

Comparing to the AHH, hmm.. that is hard to explain.. in a good way not 
better way just different, it has that twitch like kinda sort but not the 
the sever degree as my old race bike ... runs speed well free handed, and 
did 45 mph down hill in the dark solid as a rock.  But my AHH does that 
too.. only the 50x11 allows me to spin up faster and makes the downhills 
nicer for pedaling the entire thing.   As is it is on this build I'm riding 
less 7lbs than the AHH so it feels more like my quickbeam on uphills out of 
the saddle .. responsive and light yet steady and stable.  
With the Bars slightly below the seat, the seat tilted a bit farther 
forward, shorter cranks, 170 instead of 175, and I've been running with 
maybe 2 cm more leg bend for faster cadence.  

I've got a lugged setback seatpost on the AHH and the standard nitto 2 bolt 
on the Ram.. same stems, same bars but the center of saddle to center of 
handle bar is the same, with the top tube on the AHH being about 2cm longer 
or so as well.   

It's going to do exactly what I wanted and that is be my group ride and 
fast event ride bike with a go anywhere ability. Fully loaded with bag, 
camera, coffee, tools etc it's riding weight is 30lbs.  yet feels less. 
 Just a great feel and very responsive.  

So though the AHH / RAM / Quickbeam all have their own feel I can't say I 
like any of them better than the other..   The differences are small and 
usually where one excels for me it's usually for an insignificant part of a 
ride.

So the rear rack is going back on the AHH and a larger rear bag.  Maybe 
even put a marks rack on the front ... 

One thing I miss and am going to stay without is the kickstand... was 
walking it through the mall today and trying to find walls to  lean it 
against was a pain.. note take the AHH to the mall next time. :)

Kelly

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:16:27 PM UTC-6, Tom Harrop wrote:
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> Kelly, the new bike looks amazing, where did you find the frame? How does 
> it compare to the AHH?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Shaun Meehan]

Jim,

Based on the fact that you said you're bringing your best mud bike, I can
only conclude that you've elected to bring the Pugsley on the trip to the
Bay Area? If so, that's an interesting choice to be certain. Or do you
consider one of your other bikes to be better in the mud than the Pug?

Shaun

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Dan McNamara  wrote:

> I would be up for a Diablo ride on New Year's Day. Or any Mt. Tam
> adventures.
>
> Hmmm. Need to test the ankle and make sure it is ready. Maybe it won't
> rain this weekend.
>
> Dan
>
> Marin
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, EastBayGuy  wrote:
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>> I'm in for Mt.D NYD...
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I would have brought the Pug, but I figured that would be a theft target 
and not well suited to public transit. I brought my disc trucker with 
Rohloff, which looks unremarkable/ugly and has a more or less mud-proof 
drivetrain and braking system..

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:08:11 PM UTC-6, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Jim,
>  
> Based on the fact that you said you're bringing your best mud bike, I can 
> only conclude that you've elected to bring the Pugsley on the trip to the 
> Bay Area? If so, that's an interesting choice to be certain. Or do you 
> consider one of your other bikes to be better in the mud than the Pug?
>  
> Shaun
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Dan McNamara 
> > wrote:
>
>> I would be up for a Diablo ride on New Year's Day. Or any Mt. Tam 
>> adventures. 
>>
>> Hmmm. Need to test the ankle and make sure it is ready. Maybe it won't 
>> rain this weekend.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Marin
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, EastBayGuy 
>> > wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>> Dustin Goodwin
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[RBW] Re: First commute on a Rivendell

[Dave]

that's the cygolite metro 300 mounted onto a nitto lamp 
holdertightened
 onto the front tab of Mark's rack.

On Saturday, December 8, 2012 3:48:13 AM UTC-8, Cap'n Mike wrote:
>
> Nice bike. What headlight are you using and how did you mount it? 
>
> On Dec 6, 2:18 pm, Dave  wrote: 
> > I purchased a new-to-me Protovelo Bleriot from John in MN, I believe I'm 
> > the 4th owner though you wouldn't know by looking at the pristine 
> condition 
> > bike that arrived!  After adding a front rack, lil loafer, saddlebag, 
> > swapping out the Randonneur bars for Mustache bars, brifters for bar 
> ends, 
> > some lights and reflectors, a bell, and a chain-stay protector I rode in 
> to 
> > work this morning.  Best bike commute I've ever had.  This bike just 
> feels 
> > so good! 
> > 
> > Pictures prove it, 
> > Dave "650b is good by me" L. 
> > 
> >  photo (1).JPG 
> > 88KViewDownload 
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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

[Rich Parr]

Best of both worlds: flats with straps. I use MKS touring pedals with power 
straps, and I like that I can be somewhat attached to my pedals but quickly 
able to get out of them. 

On Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:21:05 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> This is an impressive document about platform pedals. It echoes much of 
> what GP has said about this subject for years.
>
> https://www.bikejames.com/strength/the-flat-pedal-revolution-manifesto-how-to-improve-your-riding-with-flat-pedals/

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[RBW] Re: WTB: SimpleOne/ QB wheelset

[allenmichael]

i just upgraded to a Rich-built Synergy with dynamo front wheel for my 
Simple One, so have older CR-18 wheel with Phil hub to spare. I bought it 
on c-list locally for $70 earlier this year. The guy I bought it from told 
me he bought it at a Riv Garage sale but I can't confirm this. Happy to 
pass it along for the same $70 I paid. More for shipping, actual cost. 
Located in San Francisco, CA.

On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:51:24 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:
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> Howdy!
>
> Looking for a wheelset for my new SimpleOne (actually a QuickOne- long 
> story). Trying to get it together on a budget and was hoping to find some 
> used wheels. Open to anything- new, used, trades, etc. 
>
> Thanks! 
> cm
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[RBW] Time to sell things. Need money for college fund.

[Kevin Pollen]

Ultegra derailleur sold 

Xt cassette sold

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[RBW] Re: Nitto factory hat!! How cool is that?

[Allan in Portland]

Ha! That was my first thought. If I get the hat, well, I'm going to need 
the matching jacket! 

 
I also love the complete non-plussed look of the three models. Grant, 
takin' Eben to school... ;^)
 
 
-Allan

On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:55:15 AM UTC-8, William wrote:

> Now there are new photos of the Nitto Factory.  Now I need a Nitto Factory 
> shirt!  That would be dope (as the kids like to say).  
>
> On Friday, December 14, 2012 3:50:12 PM UTC-8, William wrote: 
>>
>> I think it's incredibly cool.  I gotta get one.   
>>
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ac8l.htm
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS? 57 Rivendell Road

[bikenut46]

Not less than $3000 for the bicycle. $500 for the crank and bb.

On Sunday, December 9, 2012 8:51:39 AM UTC-6, Chris wrote:
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> Hi,
> I'm in the market for that size. What are you asking if I may ask?

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[RBW] Anybody have great (or lousy) experience with waterproof iPhone5 mounts on your Riv? I need ones to investigate (and ones to avoid)

[Dennis Hogan]

Hi Derek - I had the Biologic case (which is a battery that can be charged off 
a dyno hub with their equipment) The set up was for a iPhone 4 but I expect 
they will have one for the 5 soon if not already. It was a robust case 
waterproof etc added about 3hrs run time when using the iPhone as a cyclometer 
Dennis in PDX

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[steel lugs]

Patrick, have you considered going with a 1x drivetrain, since you have
plenty of 14-28s and a 44t already?  I did something similar with my
Rambouillet and discovered I actually preferred having less gears:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/38991087@N05/4482258007/in/photostream/


Now if only White Industries would come out with 5-speed freewheels!


Cheers.




On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Leslie  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> The description on this photo has my original build list.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/
>
> I've now swapped out my Tekros for almost the same but longer-reach
> caliper versions, swapped my stem from the DuraAce to a Nitto Tallux,
> switched from 48 Noodles to 46 Sobas.  I've built a wheelset using the A23
> 650b rims, light Hetres, a 105 rear and a Shimano dynohub for the front,
> added a Marks rack to the front with an Acorn bag and a Edelux light...
> also stuck a Pixeo on the rear...   I need to take some new photos after I
> get it back out to ride now.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:34:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I am in the very fortunate situation of anticipating the present
>> (adverbial) arrival of a 58X57 cm Ram, offered rather unexpectedly and
>> very graciously at poor-boy's terms by listmember Tim Whalen (thanks,
>> Tim). I have been offered, very graciously, discount and even free
>> parts by listmembers, but I'd like to see photos and build lists of
>> others' Rams.
>>
>> I've followed the recent post on the Ram build of course but the OP's
>> ideas are rather different from mine.
>>
>> I plan (at the moment; no one can hold me to resolution) to build mine
>> as a comfortable multispeed gofast to fill the now empty "derailleur
>> road" category, meaning drops, modest load carrying capacity, and
>> relatively uncomplicated gearing -- perhaps a 5 speed half step 46/42
>> (I have plenty of 14-28s) for me nice close gaps between 88" and 40"
>> with cruising gears in the second cog, and a 5 speed fw hub would not
>> have to be dished. (I may have a NNP 30 t Pro 5 Vis ring to trade for
>> a decent ditto 42, if anyone is interested.)
>>
>> Or, a 46/30 with, say, a 14-15-16-18-18-19-21-23 cassette for a
>> slightly lower bottom end.
>>
>> No rack, but a Carradice Junior; possibly a dyno hub in the future, dt
>> shifters (shit, sold the last pair of Retrofrictions earlier this
>> year), original issue Flite, older Keo Pluses, and, I hope, Maes
>> Parallels and Grand Bois Cerf blue or green. Don't need fenders here
>> in NM except a few weeks a year. I want to find old stock Dura Ace
>> brake levers -- may have a pair.
>>
>> Am still debating whether I want to try tubulars (with Stans).
>>
>> Here is what I have in my box right now, from memory:
>>
>> Flite
>> Keos
>> Pro 5 Vis crankset, 170
>> 44, 46 and 30 t rings
>> FWs
>> Campy Record hs
>>
>> Need (with preferred specifics, understanding that I may not get them):
>>
>> Stem (8 cm Pearl)
>> Bar (37 or 38 cm Grand Bois Maes Parallel copy)
>> Tape: Lizard Skins DSP
>> Levers (pre STI Dura Ace aero)
>> Calipers (nice, forged, silver, normal reach single pivots: RGC, 600,
>> S Pro/Cyclone)
>> BB (Phil 115)
>> Seat post (silver, lots of setback -- I like the old Dura Ace from 20
>> years ago)
>> Rims (particularly interested in advice for silver, lightish, 32 or 36
>> hole rims)
>> Hubs (Phil would be nice)
>> Skewers (allen bolts or skewers)
>> Tires (GB Cerf)
>> Chain
>> Shifters (Simplex; wish I hadn't sold)
>> Derailleurs (Dura Ace 7200, 7400; Superbe Pro)
>>
>> This will be a longish term project, tho' I will start out with what I
>> can get and replace as I can afford.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto

[Z]

I ride in 5.10 shoes, but not a riding-specific type.  I believe the model 
is the "guide" tennie, and is basically just a lightweight sneaker with 
climbing rubber sole.  They stick to my pedals when I ride and to sandstone 
when I hike.  Disclaimer: they leave black marks everywhere.  I really like 
them, though.

- Zach in Moab

On Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:49:42 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> Here's a more direct link to the manifesto. Kinda curious to try the 5-10 
> shoes he recommends, but I seem to do ok with any shoes I've tried. Anybody 
> try the 5-10 shoes?
>
>
> http://www.bikejames.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/FlatPedalRevolutionManifesto.pdf
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build

[robert zeidler]

P.S.  Think about either a 15-25 9 speed cassette or a Century Special
13-30 both from Harris Cyclery.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Kelly  wrote:
>
> I have a new frame arriving today, the build I'm thinking about is below.
> My questions / quest for others opinions would be this.  I'm building this
> as a club ride bike and or even good weather event bike for things like 3
> State 3 Mountain Challenge.
> I'm 6'5" and 225 to 235 pounds depending on time of year.
>
> I'm still debating between the SP and the SON28 in my mind for this and to a
> point how much if any the dyno would hurt for fast club rides.   (note that
> a part of this build is for aesthetics.   Thus the nice silver stuff and
> classic look (hopefully)
>
> Still debating with myself about derailleurs -  XT or 105  Rear (or other
> choice with better look)  Front is really up in the air but looks like
> Shimano again
>
> Looks like Shimano 9 Speed down tube or bar end.. depends on reach when I
> get to building.. big frame long reach.. if looks only I'm leaning towards
> down tube.
> If reach is to long for my comfort level, have you tried wrapping the shift
> cables all the way to the stem?  Did the extra bends effect shifting
> noticeably?   I think it would work and have a different look.
>
>
>  Thinking of possible white shift and brake cables, with white bar tape.
>
> Any experience with the Grand Cru Hubs?  Good or Bad
>
> Thanks for your thoughts..
>
> Kelly
>
> 68 Rambouillet - (Blue) Supposed to be here today
>
> Grand Cru Touring Hub, 130mm -- 11x28 Cassette - Haven't purchased yet
>
> VO RAID Rim, 700c - Purchased 36 spoke
>
> New SON28 - Haven't purchased yet.
> René Herse Triple Crank  50-38-24 On the bench
> SKS Bottom Bracket - On Desk
> Grand Bois Cerf, Green Label 700C x 29 mm - On the bench
> Nitto Lugged Quill 26.0- On the bench
> Nitto Noodle Handlebar- On the bench
> TRP Tektro RRL Brake Levers- on the bench, taken off wifes roadeo when she
> went back to sti's.
> Side Pull Brakes- on the bench
> Thin Gripster pedals- on the bench
> Brooks ENGLAND leather Swift-  shipped
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/380537396851?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
> E3 Pro 2 lights- in the drawer
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/supernova.asp
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet upcoming build

[robert zeidler]

Lighter is righter, so unless you are going to ride all night you can
get away with a battery headlight/tailight.

The reach will be a long one for down-tube so why not STI?  Bar ends
can break in a 0 MPH fall over.

Good tire choice but being of similar bodily dimensions you can get
away with some 32 spoke lightweight wheels and maybe have to have them
rebuilt every 3 years or so.

Try one of the Specialized "endurance" saddles in 155mm or even 143mm
versions-very comfy.

All of the weight adds up and your legs may thank you.  Make mudguards
a take-off/put-on option, save weight where you can.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Kelly  wrote:
>
> I have a new frame arriving today, the build I'm thinking about is below.
> My questions / quest for others opinions would be this.  I'm building this
> as a club ride bike and or even good weather event bike for things like 3
> State 3 Mountain Challenge.
> I'm 6'5" and 225 to 235 pounds depending on time of year.
>
> I'm still debating between the SP and the SON28 in my mind for this and to a
> point how much if any the dyno would hurt for fast club rides.   (note that
> a part of this build is for aesthetics.   Thus the nice silver stuff and
> classic look (hopefully)
>
> Still debating with myself about derailleurs -  XT or 105  Rear (or other
> choice with better look)  Front is really up in the air but looks like
> Shimano again
>
> Looks like Shimano 9 Speed down tube or bar end.. depends on reach when I
> get to building.. big frame long reach.. if looks only I'm leaning towards
> down tube.
> If reach is to long for my comfort level, have you tried wrapping the shift
> cables all the way to the stem?  Did the extra bends effect shifting
> noticeably?   I think it would work and have a different look.
>
>
>  Thinking of possible white shift and brake cables, with white bar tape.
>
> Any experience with the Grand Cru Hubs?  Good or Bad
>
> Thanks for your thoughts..
>
> Kelly
>
> 68 Rambouillet - (Blue) Supposed to be here today
>
> Grand Cru Touring Hub, 130mm -- 11x28 Cassette - Haven't purchased yet
>
> VO RAID Rim, 700c - Purchased 36 spoke
>
> New SON28 - Haven't purchased yet.
> René Herse Triple Crank  50-38-24 On the bench
> SKS Bottom Bracket - On Desk
> Grand Bois Cerf, Green Label 700C x 29 mm - On the bench
> Nitto Lugged Quill 26.0- On the bench
> Nitto Noodle Handlebar- On the bench
> TRP Tektro RRL Brake Levers- on the bench, taken off wifes roadeo when she
> went back to sti's.
> Side Pull Brakes- on the bench
> Thin Gripster pedals- on the bench
> Brooks ENGLAND leather Swift-  shipped
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/380537396851?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
> E3 Pro 2 lights- in the drawer
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/supernova.asp
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Medium Nitto Back Rack 32R

[Ray Colmenar]

Thanks. Rack was sold. 

On Dec 18, 2012, at 8:28 AM, "Rob H."  wrote:

> ray
> 
> i have a large nitto back rack, wanna trade?
> 
> rob
> 
> On Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:12:38 AM UTC-8, tatayray wrote:
>> 
>> Happy Holidays Everyone!
>> 
>> I bought a new Nitto Back Rack--but I got the wrong size.  I got the medium 
>> version--need a large.  Here's a pic from ecovelo:
>> 
>> http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/12/04/stuff-we-like-rivendellnitto-big-back-rack/
>> 
>> $155 if you're local in the East Bay.  I can ship for an extra $10
>> 
>> thanks
>> ray
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[RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[allenmichael]

I would love to tag along on a ride or two, just about anywhere in the bay 
area. I'm out near Ocean Beach in SF but work near downtown SF with easy 
access to Bart. Might motivate me to finish reconfiguring my Atlantis for 
trails.

On Monday, December 17, 2012 12:15:26 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> I just put my (vaguely Riv-ish) bike and camping/touring stuff on a train, 
> with plans to retrieve it in a week at the Amtrak station on Oakland. From 
> there, I have about 10 days of no plans but to ride and explore and camp 
> and hopefully befriend some like-minded locals. I'll stop by RBWHQ, of 
> course, if I manage to work around Riv's holiday schedule.
>

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[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[sameness]

Monstercross! I guess basically a custom Atlantis with e'er so slightly 
bigger tire clearance (50+). Degree or two more slope to the top tube, such 
that a 8cm Nitto stem makes a perfect 7 when the saddle is just on level 
with the middle of the hooks, but still only fistful of post. Horizontal 
dropouts and clamp-on downtube cable stops for clean single speeding 
conversion. Clear powdercoat but with cream headtube paint. Not sure if I'm 
up for having a $300+ order shipped to Australia on the sooner, so at this 
point it's all (always, ever) a-boy-can-dream.

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[RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[John L]

I want a Hunqapillar with a level top tube, a canti-Hilsen or a 
canti-Saluki, or maybe just a 64cm Atlantis.  Or maybe, I just want Grant 
to decide on a cool bike for me.  Do you think they'd allow for S&S 
couplers?

On Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:58:13 PM UTC-5, cbone97 wrote:
>
> A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to 
> enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask 
> Grant to cook up for me if I win. 
>
> My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored 
> on fleabay.): 
>
> 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires 
> 2 tubes for 'em 
> 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar 
> 8 sp cassette, 11-32t 
> Sugino XD2, wide/low double 
> 2 corks 
> total: $300.00 
>
>
> My prize request: 
> 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube 
> configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance) 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Hey there Mr Thill!

Glad to hear you'll be landing in the Bay Area!  I'm north-bay-centric, so 
when you head into Marin County, lemme know!   We're dealing with a dying 
family member right now, so I can't commit too far out, but should be in 
the area with some flexibility in schedule. 

- J

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Re: [RBW] Anybody have great (or lousy) experience with waterproof iPhone5 mounts on your Riv? I need ones to investigate (and ones to avoid)

[René Sterental]

No iPhone 5 cases yet AFAIK!

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012, Derek Simmons wrote:

> Dennis:
> Thanks for that input. I'll check it out. I do know from trying some units
> on for size, that what fits the iPhone 4 generally does NOT fit the iPhone
> 5. So I may just have to wait.
> Merry Christmas
> Derek
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Dennis Hogan 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Derek - I had the Biologic case (which is a battery that can be
>> charged off a dyno hub with their equipment) The set up was for a iPhone 4
>> but I expect they will have one for the 5 soon if not already. It was a
>> robust case waterproof etc added about 3hrs run time when using the iPhone
>> as a cyclometer
>> Dennis in PDX
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your raffle entry consist of, and what are your plans for the prize?

[Dan McNamara]

Decided to play:

2 Schwalbe extralight 700c tubes - might as well try them out
1 Small Topeak frame pump - for Amy's Betty Foy
1 Baggins rare earth magnet - stocking stuffer for a lucky person
2 RBW rare earth magnets - stocking stuffers for 2 lucky people
1 copy of Rework - good reading
1 copy of What Now - gift for confused person
1 Tange/IRD roller drive headset - replacing VO headset on the Bomba
1 small Trangia Cooket - bike camping and earthquake preparedness

total: $307


Not sure on what I would do as a custom. The level TT Hunq and the mountain
mixte are interesting ideas. But maybe something more along the lines of an
AHH-ish frame with room for wider tires would be in the correct direction.

Too many possibilities!




On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 1:53 PM, John L  wrote:

> I want a Hunqapillar with a level top tube, a canti-Hilsen or a
> canti-Saluki, or maybe just a 64cm Atlantis.  Or maybe, I just want Grant
> to decide on a cool bike for me.  Do you think they'd allow for S&S
> couplers?
>
>
> On Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:58:13 PM UTC-5, cbone97 wrote:
>
>> A bit of fun since surely I'm not the only one who's been prompted to
>> enter a $300 order this month and tempted to dream of what I'll ask
>> Grant to cook up for me if I win.
>>
>> My order (placing tonight, destination is a V.O. Polyvalent I scored
>> on fleabay.):
>>
>> 2 Conti 650b 54mm tires
>> 2 tubes for 'em
>> 1 55 cm cromo Bosco bar
>> 8 sp cassette, 11-32t
>> Sugino XD2, wide/low double
>> 2 corks
>> total: $300.00
>>
>>
>> My prize request:
>> 650b fat-tire capable love child of Bosco Rubbe (general tube
>> configuration) and AHH (paint color / job, geometry elegance)
>>
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[RBW] More nice frames in Frame Specials: 61cm Custom & 58cm SimpleOne

[Dan McNamara]

Plus a 51cm grey Betty Foy.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram/Roadeo/other roady build lists and photos?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Thanks -- that's an idea. In fact, I've got a boxful of close ratio
Reginas and Shimanos (including a corncob 16-22 six!). I do like
closely spread gears between (for this type of bike and riding) say
65" and 75", though, and the halfstep arrangement gives me that along
with a downhill gear or two and some climbing gears.

46  42
14  89  81
17  73  67
20  62  57
24  52  47
28  44  41

This might work"

40
13  83
14  77
15  72
17  64
19  57
21  51

Or this!

48
16  81
17  76
18  72
19  68
20  65
21  62
22  59

I even have a Sachs 8 sp fw, but that is pushing things too far.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM, steel lugs  wrote:
> Patrick, have you considered going with a 1x drivetrain, since you have
> plenty of 14-28s and a 44t already?  I did something similar with my
> Rambouillet and discovered I actually preferred having less gears:
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/38991087@N05/4482258007/in/photostream/
>
>
> Now if only White Industries would come out with 5-speed freewheels!
>
>
> Cheers.



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Re: [RBW] More nice frames in Frame Specials: 61cm Custom & 58cm SimpleOne

[Peter Morgano]

That 61 custom is sweet, now if only I had a spare $2,700

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-country visit

[Esteban]

I think I can make it for a Diablo run on New Year's -- morning?  I'll 
bring the Protovelo up for this one - coming up for Christmas.

Esteban
San Diego - Martinez - Portero Hill SF, Calif.

On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 2:51:19 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> I would have brought the Pug, but I figured that would be a theft target 
> and not well suited to public transit. I brought my disc trucker with 
> Rohloff, which looks unremarkable/ugly and has a more or less mud-proof 
> drivetrain and braking system..
>
> On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:08:11 PM UTC-6, meehan...@gmail.comwrote:
>>
>> Jim,
>>  
>> Based on the fact that you said you're bringing your best mud bike, I can 
>> only conclude that you've elected to bring the Pugsley on the trip to the 
>> Bay Area? If so, that's an interesting choice to be certain. Or do you 
>> consider one of your other bikes to be better in the mud than the Pug?
>>  
>> Shaun
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Dan McNamara  wrote:
>>
>>> I would be up for a Diablo ride on New Year's Day. Or any Mt. Tam 
>>> adventures. 
>>>
>>> Hmmm. Need to test the ankle and make sure it is ready. Maybe it won't 
>>> rain this weekend.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> Marin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM, EastBayGuy  wrote:
>>>
 I'm in for Mt.D NYD...

 Dustin Goodwin

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[RBW] FS Green Quickbeam 60cm

[Noah Deuce]

After a bit of soul-searching (and moving to a smaller apartment), I've 
decided that it's time for my 60cm Quickbeam to find a new home where it 
will get ridden more.  It's one of the original green ones, purchased in 
August 2004.  It has...almost no original parts. :-)  

-Chris King headset (silver, obviously)
-Phil Wood flip-flop fixed/free rear wheel, hand built, Mavic Open Pro rim, 
32h
-Original Suzue(?) front hub, hand built into a wheel with a Mavic CXP-33 
rim, 32h
-Nitto Dirt Drop stem
-Nitto Mustache handlebars
-Panaracer T-Serv Messenger tires, 700x35 (incidentally, I can't recommend 
these tires enough, in any size, for any bike that isn't a dedicated 
mountain bike or gravel racer)
-Original Sugino 110x74 triple crank
-Brass-looking bell

The bike is currently set up as a fixed gear, so it only has a front 
brake/brake lever (Shimano BR-550, and Tiagra lever).  Gearing is 48x18 
(Surly stainless chainring, EAI cog, Phil Wood locking), which may not be 
your cup of tea.  I have some smaller chainrings (a new 34 and a moderately 
used 42), as well as an outer pant guard ring (smooth, no teeth, not sure 
what to call it) that will cover up to a 48 (as I recall).  So I'd throw 
those in for you, if you want them.  I'm not including a seat post or seat, 
because, well, I need to be able to ride my other bike.  :-)
The pedals and the Pitlock skewer you see in the pictures are also not 
included.  The Pitlock will be replaced with a nice XT quick release. 
 There's a set of Planet Bike fenders that I'm happy to include as well.

Normal wear and tear for a well-loved bike of its age.  The one important 
paint issue is the drive-side dropout that got scored by my chain several 
years ago.  I sent Grant a picture, and he told me it was nothing to worry 
about from a frame integrity standpoint, and it's not easy to see at all 
unless you get down to stare at the dropout, but I wanted to let you know 
about it.

I'm 5'8", 30" inseam, not particularly long in the arms.  The bike as set 
up now is upright-ish, but not cruiser-bars-sit-up-straight.

Pictures here: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDg9tJF (sorry they're not artfully 
posed - we just had snow here, and it's bloody cold outside).

I'd like to sell for $750 (which doesn't include packing and shipping by 
REI, if that should be required).

Let me know any questions, and thanks for looking/reading!

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[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

[Noah Deuce]

I have, and love, an A. Homer Hilsen.  I bought it when I was 27, and four 
years later it's still the best ride I've ever had.  I've commuted on it, 
ridden it 200 miles in a day on gravel roads, climbed over Lee Hill Road in 
Boulder (just like the USA Pro Cycling Challenge!...Uh, only slower), and 
done all the general road riding that I can.  It's a great bike - don't 
hesitate to buy it when you have the chance.

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[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

[Michael]

>
> @Noah,
> Your Hilsen is a 700, or 650b frame?
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[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?

[Michael]

>
> @Esteban:
>  
>
I would like a custom, but the $$ are so high for them these days.
I think I would want to test ride my next Rivbike purchase as I am gonna 
look for something a little quicker than the Bleriot I have.
It handles great and is very stable and I love it, but want to find 
something that is easier to pedal for my next ride. 700c, so that would 
mean a 55 Hilsen if I had to buy tomorrow.
 
I like the 650b idea, but too limited in tire choices to get something 
"just right" that I am looking for. Also, I live in a non-650b LBS 
territory. I live in 700cville.

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[RBW] Ride thru snowy winters? How's your Riv-paint hold up?

[Michael]

Wanna keep riding thru winter, but don't know if the salted roads would be 
suicide for my frame. I do use Longboards.
 
How have your Riv's held up to the abuse?

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[RBW] Ride thru snowy winters? How's your Riv-paint hold up?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Your frame and other parts will get some rust, but rust won't kill it. 

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