[RBW] Re: The Wasco County Ramble!
Mike, yet another great ride report. Looks like a great day in the saddle. Hugh Sunland, CA On Sunday, April 7, 2013 9:45:12 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote: So four of us set out to ride a route laid out by Andy starting in Maupin, OR. What a great route. We started off rolling along the Deschutes River through dryish canyon lands. A few miles in it began to rain but it stopped pretty quickly while we messed around in a drainage pipe and checked out the river. We then began climbing out of the canyon a long a twisting section of road that was quite pleasant with little traffic and a reasonable grade. We check out some falls and ruins and then kept rambling to Tygh Valley. From there we headed towards the Mt Hood National Forest and miles of dirt/gravel roads the climbed rolled and descended, dropping us off in Waimic where we refueled. From there we had more rolling roads and a screaming descent and steep climb out of some canyon. This was an amazing stretch of road and while the descent was a bit harrowing and the climb quite steep, it was still my favorite section of road. We then rolled along on a few more miles of gravel before getting back onto pavement and dropping back into Maupin which included an absolutely perfect 3 mile descent on steep twisty roads that were quiet and offered good sight lines. My only regret about this ride is that we couldn't have pitched camp along the route. I had never ridden with Tommy or Shawn before and they were great company. I would absolutely not hesitate to do this ride again as part of a longer camping trip or even as a day trip. It would certainly be worth visiting on a clear day. I'm not sure what the temperature was but I was never too cold or too hot. The route was about 60 miles. The only sustained rain we experienced was at the beginning. We had stiff winds across Tygh Valley but also a strong tailwind when heading east like when we rolled into Waimic and into Maupin at the end. Andy rode his Hilsen with 40mm Schwalbe Marathons. Tommy was on a Bombadil with Panaracer Col de Vies (or whatever they're called). Shawn and I were both on LHTs. We both had Schwalbe Marathons (35s for Shawn, 38s for me). Tommy was the only person to flat. No mechanicals. Andy didn't have fenders on his bike and that's probably why it rained on us at the beginning of the ride. Big thanks to Andy for planning the route and Tommy for providing transportation. Pictures proved it happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633188497354/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: The Wasco County Ramble!
Andy, really good images after you cleaned your glasses. Hugh Sunland, CA On Sunday, April 7, 2013 11:23:05 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Unlike in real life, most of what Mike said above is true. The one thing I'll add is that at one point in the Tygh Valley I did a snot rocket and it was so windy that the wind blew the projectile back onto my glasses. But it wasn't just on my glasses it was on the inside of my glasses. I was happy to have my $2 bandana from Riv on hand. On top of that all I have to add is a link to the pics I took... Wasco County Country Bike Ramble Picshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157633183951201/ --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Urban Tour by Brooklyn's Horse Cycles
MIke, I had the choice of buying a Hillborne made in Taiwan and the Hilsen in Wisconsin, the difference was $775.00. As you know I chose Wisconsin. I made a conscience decision and feel good about employing American workers. At the same time make no mistake I want other people in the world to make a good wage just not at the expense of American's. Hugh Sunland, CA On Sunday, April 7, 2013 5:18:49 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: I think this is a good thing, and we need more of it in the US. I don't mean to offend anyone, but buying Taiwanese products when there are suitable US products made is a poor compromise. I know the world is flat and all that but our economy needs more of this kind of entrepreneurial spirit. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Urban Tour by Brooklyn's Horse Cycles
Mike, We missed you on the ride. Next one will hopefully be closer. Hugh On Sunday, April 7, 2013 11:16:38 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: MIke, I had the choice of buying a Hillborne made in Taiwan and the Hilsen in Wisconsin, the difference was $775.00. As you know I chose Wisconsin. I made a conscience decision and feel good about employing American workers. At the same time make no mistake I want other people in the world to make a good wage just not at the expense of American's. Hugh Sunland, CA On Sunday, April 7, 2013 5:18:49 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: I think this is a good thing, and we need more of it in the US. I don't mean to offend anyone, but buying Taiwanese products when there are suitable US products made is a poor compromise. I know the world is flat and all that but our economy needs more of this kind of entrepreneurial spirit. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
Rob, you put on a good ride! I had an amazing time, and can only believe that everyone else did as well. Thanks for taking the lead on organizing this and getting all these folks together to go on such a great ride. Seven hours of bliss riding through bike paths, oak-shaded ranch roads, and picturesque towns in coastal Southern California. I can't think of a better day! Here are some pics of the day: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157633189393041 Cheers, David On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:10 AM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: A quick reminder and an update that this ride is next week, and still on. Meeting place is the NW corner of Garden St and Santa Clara in Ventura, Ca 93001. This is the center of the block between the Patagonia headquarters / store and a discount shop up the street, Real Cheap Sports, so if you need some gear after the ride could be a good time to shop. Meeting time is around 9AM with a 9:30 roll out You can hit me with an email at this account perks.rob@gmail. if you need more info See you soon Rob oceanaircycles.com Ventura, Ca On Friday, February 22, 2013 9:39:06 AM UTC-8, Bryan wrote: Sounds great! I should be able to make it. Bryan On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:12:01 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote: Save the Date, if you still can, and have the time to make it to our little part of the SoCal playground. April 7 is gelling as the date for this year's Sulphur Mtn loop out of Ventura. I revised the back end of the loop a bit from years past, and you can see this year's route here: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/**2159896http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2159896 47 miles and 3700 feet of climbing. Start is in Ventura, Up the River Trail to sulphur Mtn where it is a 10 mile dirt climb, with a great drop back into Ojai, then home through a combination of country roads and the river trail. Meet up in Ventura near Garden St and Santa Clara by 9 and hit the road around 9:30. This is a no man left behind sort of ride. We will be taking breaks for re-groups etc. I recommend 3 water bottles as a minimum for the climb up Sulphur. Tires 32mm wide for the dirt, gearing for 8-10% grades and brakes in order for the back side of the mountain are all suggested as well. We will stop at one of the many options for lunch in Ojai to grab something quick to eat and get back on the Road. This is a no host ride and not associated or sponsored by Ocean Air Cycles, just a bunch of like minded folks getting together for a fun ride. Feel free to invite friends and spread the word. The ride is all about having fun and enjoying the local scenery, pace is moderate, by no means a hammer fest, but the climbing will likely test your endurance. I am looking forward to riding with all of you, meeting some new friends and sharing some of the best riding our region has to offer. -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] More Diamonds and Midged Hunqapillar
In the never ending quest to always change a good thing, I replaced the Noodles on the Hunqa (still going strong on the Hilsen - won't take em off that one) with Midge bars. They fit the dirt dynamic of the Mammoth bike better. I still had to diamond 'em up, tho: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEDaGcN Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Help choosing a bike
I think a 19 inch bike is supposed to fit a person about 5'7 tp 5'11 with an inseem of around 29-31.My PBH is about the same, and I've got a 57 Homer Hilsen. Not sure if this helps or not though. On Sunday, April 7, 2013 7:17:45 PM UTC-5, shawn wrote: Apologizes for this is not being a Riv question, but me, my son and another friend are doing the GAP/ CO next month. And now my soon to be son-in law will be coming along. I am quite pleased that he is able to come along, but the problem is he does not have a bike. I would love to buy him a Rivendell, but that is just not in the budget. So I am looking for suggestion for a used bike that I could pick up that would be well suited for this ride. I am eyeing a local 1984 Specialized Rockhopper that is 19 inch model. My son- in laws PBH 81.28 cm, would a 19 inch mountain bike be a good fit for him? What LHT size would be best for him? Thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Help choosing a bike
here you go, take a look: http://www.evanscycles.com/product_document/file/2b5/7f5/2b1/45/specialized-rockhopper-sizing-chart.pdf On Sunday, April 7, 2013 7:17:45 PM UTC-5, shawn wrote: Apologizes for this is not being a Riv question, but me, my son and another friend are doing the GAP/ CO next month. And now my soon to be son-in law will be coming along. I am quite pleased that he is able to come along, but the problem is he does not have a bike. I would love to buy him a Rivendell, but that is just not in the budget. So I am looking for suggestion for a used bike that I could pick up that would be well suited for this ride. I am eyeing a local 1984 Specialized Rockhopper that is 19 inch model. My son- in laws PBH 81.28 cm, would a 19 inch mountain bike be a good fit for him? What LHT size would be best for him? Thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Moustache vs. Noodle bar reach overlay with pics
Fair enough. Buddy and I rode 32 mi Saturday, half of it through near-downtown and traffic, and 1700' elevation (beautiful park roads along the creek drainages, and lunch at a great Thai restaurant). The hood position is a good back stretch, and a good aero position with elbows bent and tucked. There is a good tall stretch with palms on the inner bend of the bars. There are 3 other positions from the brakes to the bar ends that add control and change back position. I'm sure it's an age thing, but I had reached the point I couldn't get comfortable on drops, and was constantly changing. That may have been equally fixed with a tall quill and rando bar, but I'm delighted with my moustache bar rebuild. My buddy had quit riding altogether because of cervical strain on drop bars. He followed my lead, though he has his moustache bars set up completely different, with a high rake, which really drops the bar ends, and that's his aero position. On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:41:36 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: horizontal compared to drop bars. There's no true low position on them :-) Cheers, David On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: your perception of space must be different from mine http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aP4070007.jpg I get 5 positions easy, and none of them on the same horizontal plane On Saturday, April 6, 2013 11:13:20 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's my experience as well. They're great for a couple of hours, but then my body misses the lower hand position to move my back around. They do offer multiple positions, but on a singe horizontal plane.https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157605369032545/with/2534862019/I use them mostly/exclusively for shorter rides and stop/start rough-stuff type longer rides. Under those conditions they're excellent for me. Sustained single position riding isn't so much fun on them though. The best part is cost of entry is pretty low as people try them and don't like them, then sell them used here!!! Cheers, David On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM, RJM crccp...@gmail.com wrote: I have always heard to set up mustache bars with a shorter stem and one that is higher (compared to drops) and it has worked for me in the past. A longer stem makes me feel like I am reaching too far all the time. The one thing you miss out on with mustache bars vs. drops is a good lower position. I find that on drops just having that extra lower position really helps with comfort on longer rides because I can change my back position. It helps with the backache. Now, on drops you can get a real nice reach when you use road brake levers. It is almost like getting into a time trial position, but not quite. Helps the back too. I like mustache bars quite a bit but am not running them on any bikes currently. Once I get the Roadeo built up with drops, I was thinking of putting mustache bars on the Hillborne. I really liked the mustache bar when I had my Jamis Aurora up and running with them. They did get comments though. On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 6:56:02 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Just FYI for anyone who is interested which bar has a longer/shorter reach. As you can see, I laid the 'stache over the noodles, lining up the clamp area of the stache to where the clamp on the stem is and looks like moustaches have a shorter reach than noodles both at the hooks and bar ends by about almost 2cm. Keep in mind that the mouth of the hand (between thumb and first finger) will be behind the metal part of the stache bar hook and not on a hood, like on drops. But will it* feel* like a shorter reach in real use (that would be good!)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To
Re: [RBW] The Wasco County Ramble!
Too much information! ;) On Apr 7, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: Unlike in real life, most of what Mike said above is true. The one thing I'll add is that at one point in the Tygh Valley I did a snot rocket and it was so windy that the wind blew the projectile back onto my glasses. But it wasn't just on my glasses it was on the inside of my glasses. I was happy to have my $2 bandana from Riv on hand. On top of that all I have to add is a link to the pics I took... Wasco County Country Bike Ramble Pics --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Help choosing a bike
the original Rock Hopper is a great steel frame. A buddy has the first one that came to Texas, and he has been riding it ever since. On Monday, April 8, 2013 7:13:41 AM UTC-5, NWAJack wrote: here you go, take a look: http://www.evanscycles.com/product_document/file/2b5/7f5/2b1/45/specialized-rockhopper-sizing-chart.pdf On Sunday, April 7, 2013 7:17:45 PM UTC-5, shawn wrote: Apologizes for this is not being a Riv question, but me, my son and another friend are doing the GAP/ CO next month. And now my soon to be son-in law will be coming along. I am quite pleased that he is able to come along, but the problem is he does not have a bike. I would love to buy him a Rivendell, but that is just not in the budget. So I am looking for suggestion for a used bike that I could pick up that would be well suited for this ride. I am eyeing a local 1984 Specialized Rockhopper that is 19 inch model. My son- in laws PBH 81.28 cm, would a 19 inch mountain bike be a good fit for him? What LHT size would be best for him? Thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Urban Tour by Brooklyn's Horse Cycles
I think the differential between those two bikes comes from the fanciness of the Hilsen compared to the Hillborne. My Sam H. was made in US and still a grand less than the Hilsen. On Monday, April 8, 2013 2:16:38 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: MIke, I had the choice of buying a Hillborne made in Taiwan and the Hilsen in Wisconsin, the difference was $775.00. As you know I chose Wisconsin. I made a conscience decision and feel good about employing American workers. At the same time make no mistake I want other people in the world to make a good wage just not at the expense of American's. Hugh Sunland, CA On Sunday, April 7, 2013 5:18:49 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: I think this is a good thing, and we need more of it in the US. I don't mean to offend anyone, but buying Taiwanese products when there are suitable US products made is a poor compromise. I know the world is flat and all that but our economy needs more of this kind of entrepreneurial spirit. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!
That's a fine looking bike, Patrick. Many years ago, I wanted to buy a 68cm Ram and to my surprise a local dealer had one in his shop. It was painted in the new blue color, like yours. I test road it, and I liked it, but I preferred the old orange color, so I passed on the bike. After seeing your bike, now I prefer the blue! I'm interested in hearing more about how you like the ride. On Sunday, April 7, 2013 3:25:22 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Whoops: photos here. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: All: thanks for the compliments. Very tired today, so just another very brief 6-7 mile ride, but a salient quality seems to be the Ram's utter stabillity -- stability as opposed to sluggishness. I was following my brother (and struggling to keep up, he on his 60 mm Big Apple Karate Monkey -- but then I was keeping it mostly in the 70 gear while he was shifting a lot), and he made a couple of sudden turns as he remembered his way. The Ram braked and turned without any qualms or crisis. Perhaps it feels a bit less quick to turn in than my customs, but it has been long enough since one of those had a freewheel that it's hard to really remember. At any rate, at least unladen or, as today, with just a small (~5-7 lb) on one side of the rack, the Ram is definitely one of those superior bikes. I must try it with a heavy rear load (30-40 lb) to see if it handles rear loads better than my custom. Joe: photo with rack attached; not a good one, I' afraid -- should have removed the pannier. This particular iteration of the Fly, unlike the others I've owned, has a neat attachment that lets you use seatstay rack braze ons: these can be bolted to the single strut, that otherwise bolts to the rear brake mounting bolt, and they in turn to the braze ons. Because the Ram's rack strut braze ons are on the inside instead of outside of the stays, I had to do a bit of impromptu crushing that, while it works fine, is not quite symmetrical. This par -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Help choosing a bike
Not sure i can size based on that info, i think as a MTB it would be fine, but keep in mind that CO/Gap is just a bike-path. There's very little climbing (almost none) and the roughest section is on the CO where it's just rutted out from rain. Therefore a more upright riding position is more beneficial that a hunched over one, so if you get a MTB, save some time to work on the seating position on the frame and focus on comfort over manuevarability. Remember you are talking about a lot of miles in a day, of course if he's young he may be able to tough it out. Otherwise i think a Rockhopper if it fits will work out fine, plenty of tire volume. Might be short of carrying capacity, but if you have 3-4 bikes you can spread out the luggage if neccessarry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!
I was very tired yesterday, so only chased my brother to the store and back, some 6-7 miles rt. But this ride did include a fastish, ~1 mile downhill with turns, and it did include some last minute brake-'n'-turns as my brother remembered a turn at the last minute. The quality that jumped out from this little ride was neutrality, not in the sense of bland, but in the sense that the bike disappears -- causes no problems. It seems very, very stable without hesitating or over-reacting to steering input -- the sort of handling that allows you to sit up and ride one-handed as you look over your shoulder while rolling fast downhill. I would guess that the 35 mm tires help bring out this particular sweetness in the frame -- would you other owners of Rams describe the handling in the same way, and (2) does this depend on tires of a certain width? What would the Ram handle like with 28s? -- I have no desire to install 28s, but I'm curious to learn if 35s are the ideal match. Must add hooks for the bungees of my grocery panniers and try the bike with a 30-40 lb rear load. More as the miles come. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:26 AM, samh rbwown...@yahoo.com wrote: That's a fine looking bike, Patrick. Many years ago, I wanted to buy a 68cm Ram and to my surprise a local dealer had one in his shop. It was painted in the new blue color, like yours. I test road it, and I liked it, but I preferred the old orange color, so I passed on the bike. After seeing your bike, now I prefer the blue! I'm interested in hearing more about how you like the ride. On Sunday, April 7, 2013 3:25:22 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Whoops: photos here. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.com wrote: All: thanks for the compliments. Very tired today, so just another very brief 6-7 mile ride, but a salient quality seems to be the Ram's utter stabillity -- stability as opposed to sluggishness. I was following my brother (and struggling to keep up, he on his 60 mm Big Apple Karate Monkey -- but then I was keeping it mostly in the 70 gear while he was shifting a lot), and he made a couple of sudden turns as he remembered his way. The Ram braked and turned without any qualms or crisis. Perhaps it feels a bit less quick to turn in than my customs, but it has been long enough since one of those had a freewheel that it's hard to really remember. At any rate, at least unladen or, as today, with just a small (~5-7 lb) on one side of the rack, the Ram is definitely one of those superior bikes. I must try it with a heavy rear load (30-40 lb) to see if it handles rear loads better than my custom. Joe: photo with rack attached; not a good one, I' afraid -- should have removed the pannier. This particular iteration of the Fly, unlike the others I've owned, has a neat attachment that lets you use seatstay rack braze ons: these can be bolted to the single strut, that otherwise bolts to the rear brake mounting bolt, and they in turn to the braze ons. Because the Ram's rack strut braze ons are on the inside instead of outside of the stays, I had to do a bit of impromptu crushing that, while it works fine, is not quite symmetrical. This par -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com __**__** __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!
Patrick: My Ram has always seemed to ride like it's on rails. Very neutral and stable. That works on 28mm through 37mm tires. Mine came stock with 32mm Paselas but I change tires around just for fun periodically. The bike is not intended for heavish loads front or rear. I seem to recall reading that 15 - 20 lbs rear was ideal. It has not fork eyelets because it was not designed to take a rack, but you can put a rack on with P-clamps (i.e. Mark's Rack). I had one on for a while with a L'il Loafer and it seemed to be okay with maybe 5 lb in it. I did not like it with any more than that. Tailwinds Bruce On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:28 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The quality that jumped out from this little ride was neutrality, not in the sense of bland, but in the sense that the bike disappears -- causes no problems. It seems very, very stable without hesitating or over-reacting to steering input -- the sort of handling that allows you to sit up and ride one-handed as you look over your shoulder while rolling fast downhill. I would guess that the 35 mm tires help bring out this particular sweetness in the frame -- would you other owners of Rams describe the handling in the same way, and (2) does this depend on tires of a certain width? What would the Ram handle like with 28s? -- I have no desire to install 28s -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Rambouillet, finally built!
That's a beautiful bicycle, Patrick - well done. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 10:44 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: [RBW] Rambouillet, finally built! https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613 I've added a Fly rack and a small seat wedge for basic kit, but otherwise, as you see it. The wheels are loaners, hope to get my own shortly. Pro 5 Vis 44/30 pulling 14-15-16-17-18-20-23 7 speed cassette by 7400 series derailleurs, with old Dura Ace SPD pedals and 7 speed Dura Ace dt shifters -- indexed! First indexed drivetrain I've owned since, what, 1993. Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks are light and roll quite well despite the armored tread -- would love to get some very nice Compass Bike tires. 9 cm Nitto stem with 42 cm Noodles: I've got the bar a bit higher than on the other Rivs, but also 1 cm further out -- serendipity, but the original setup seems to be a keeper. Shimano levers pulling (for now): front: Nashbar, rear: Shimano A550. Nitto Jaguar post (thanks again, Tom!), original issue Flite, used but good tape, Fly rack. That's all you need! I think this will take over grocery runs from the Fargo, which will go back to off road duty. Thanks to Tim Whalen, sometime of this list, for a good price and very easy terms! -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.commailto:patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dirty Diablo Take Two
For those that are interested Jenny did her ride report and can be read here. By far some of my favorite shots of me are from her. Thanks to Jenny for the wonderful pictures. http://www.plattyjo.com/2013/04/dirty-diablo-revisited-with-ride-on/ On Sunday, April 7, 2013 8:04:23 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Trying to get my ride report in before Jenny does because she does a better job. When Jenny asked if we could redo the last Diablo ride but with mountain bikes I didn't think she meant super suspension mountain bike riding. I pretty lucky and naive when it comes to my bike riding and I'm incredibly lucky to have a bike that compensate for my stupid decisions(most of the time). Jenny invited her Ride On crew with their new fancy jersey. We had a big group of 8 with their full suspension mountain bikes and me in my vans and basket non-suspension bikes. It looked pretty funny. We rode up the road and when we got to the ranger station I found out that one of my brake pad for my front left brake was missing. Nothing cotton handlebar tape wrap could't fix! I magyvered my new cotton brake pad and made sure I used my rear for the descents. We took a pretty chill pace as we rode up to Juniper with the exception of Shawn who flew passed roadies and waited an hour for us at the campgrounds. Off on to Burma Trail we were greeted with howling wind and thick fog. I took my sweet time coming down walking some sections, apparently your braking is compromised when you only have your rear brake; who would of thought? We extended the ride once we got back on the road by taking BBQ Terrace to get some river crossing in. We finished the ride with wet feet and huge smiles We even washed our bikes at the last park with the hose there. Great to meet so many new friends. Looking forward to riding more with such a great group. Pictures of wet feet prove that the ride was good. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjED4UKW Manny These are my cycling clothes Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!
That is one sweet build Patrick. I especially love that Nitto forged stem. Be careful with those 35cs...once you go *Fat its hard to go back...* On Saturday, April 6, 2013 7:43:57 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613# I've added a Fly rack and a small seat wedge for basic kit, but otherwise, as you see it. The wheels are loaners, hope to get my own shortly. Pro 5 Vis 44/30 pulling 14-15-16-17-18-20-23 7 speed cassette by 7400 series derailleurs, with old Dura Ace SPD pedals and 7 speed Dura Ace dt shifters -- indexed! First indexed drivetrain I've owned since, what, 1993. Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks are light and roll quite well despite the armored tread -- would love to get some very nice Compass Bike tires. 9 cm Nitto stem with 42 cm Noodles: I've got the bar a bit higher than on the other Rivs, but also 1 cm further out -- serendipity, but the original setup seems to be a keeper. Shimano levers pulling (for now): front: Nashbar, rear: Shimano A550. Nitto Jaguar post (thanks again, Tom!), original issue Flite, used but good tape, Fly rack. That's all you need! I think this will take over grocery runs from the Fargo, which will go back to off road duty. Thanks to Tim Whalen, sometime of this list, for a good price and very easy terms! -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!
I know, I know -- and it scares me. And further, I'm down to a 50% fixed gear ratio: two fixies to the Fargo and the Ram. The old order falleth Help me save my prejudices! On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:51 AM, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote: . Be careful with those 35cs...once you go *Fat its hard to go back...* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dirty Diablo Take Two
My friend Chava was on that ride, and had this to say: Those crazy 31 year olds! My friend Jenny blogs and takes pics of my rides so I don't have to. Note the crazy Riv guy who did the whole dirt ride on his Sam Hillborne with fenders, a front basket including his paperback and no helmet. - Andrew, Berkeley On Monday, April 8, 2013 8:41:52 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: For those that are interested Jenny did her ride report and can be read here. By far some of my favorite shots of me are from her. Thanks to Jenny for the wonderful pictures. http://www.plattyjo.com/2013/04/dirty-diablo-revisited-with-ride-on/ These are my cycling clothes Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Dirty Diablo Take Two
Manny Acosta, crazy Riv guy! with his do-all , go anywhere bike. Nice to actually see some pics of you Manny.-Mike On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:14 AM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: My friend Chava was on that ride, and had this to say: Those crazy 31 year olds! My friend Jenny blogs and takes pics of my rides so I don't have to. Note the crazy Riv guy who did the whole dirt ride on his Sam Hillborne with fenders, a front basket including his paperback and no helmet. - Andrew, Berkeley On Monday, April 8, 2013 8:41:52 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: For those that are interested Jenny did her ride report and can be read here. By far some of my favorite shots of me are from her. Thanks to Jenny for the wonderful pictures. http://www.plattyjo.com/2013/**04/dirty-diablo-revisited-**with-ride-on/http://www.plattyjo.com/2013/04/dirty-diablo-revisited-with-ride-on/ These are my cycling clothes Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Dirty Diablo Take Two
What is all of that green stuff covering the ground? [Wonderful photos. They remind me of the old 20th Century Fox Motion Picture Ranch in the hills just north of Malibu where I worked as a night patrolman back in the mid '70s, home to film sets for M*A*S*H, Tora! Tora! Tora! and Swiss Fambly Robinson. Live oaks, brush covered hills, dirt roads ... My job was to drive patrols over ~8 miles of dirt road and doubletrack to (1) keep out vandals who might climb over the fence and (2) chase the resident cows away from the Swiss Fambly Robinson set's potted exotic fauna. I slept many a night in Hawkeye's tent. We were told not to exceed 12 mph, at which a complete patrol would take 45 minutes. I came close to hitting 15 minutes, hitting 70+ on some of the wider straights at 2 am -- we'd destroy the cars after a few weeks of this treatment -- old junkers from the 20th Century lot. Great fun. Beside getting paid, I aced our science and math tutorials with all the dead time in which to study -- Thomas Aquinas College was just across the street (= Malibu Canyon Road) at the time. The ranch supervisor had a very nice house and I remember thinking them very decadent -- after all I was attending a conservative Catholic Great Books college across the way -- as the son, just a couple of years older than I, would bring in his nocturnal girlfriends for a night of ranch touring in his El Camino combined with pot smoking and, no doubt, fornincation. And the super's house has naked lady posters on the wall of the billiard room! Great fun. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.comwrote: For those that are interested Jenny did her ride report and can be read here. By far some of my favorite shots of me are from her. Thanks to Jenny for the wonderful pictures. http://www.plattyjo.com/2013/04/dirty-diablo-revisited-with-ride-on/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Moustache vs. Noodle bar reach overlay with pics
Gene Oberpriller also won the Chequamegon 40 on a X0-1 with moustache bars. That's Gene-O in the picture weating the red jersey with the two white stripes. In fact, that might be the very bike that he won the Chequamegon 40 on. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: John Stamstad beat the 24 hour off road record with them. Me, I rate them in the middle -- I would probably like them for shorter rides were it not for the very sensitive heel of my left hand: they give very good control and torque. Odd, they felt best when positioned low like drop bars. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I've met very few who could tolerate M-bars. I think they're horrendous. But obviously some people think they're great. It might be one of those things we all need to try at some point. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: jack brown's
Brief update, I now have JB greens on my LongLow, they fit fine and leave just... enough... room for wooden fenders (yet to be mounted). The greens are definitely faster rolling than the blues, in my limited comparison testing. Yesterday, I found myself coasting on nearly-flat downhills without losing speed, where I would be pushing to maintain the same pace on the blues. Back on the blues this morning, they feel slower, as if some miscreant had let some air out. I understand the differences in construction, and will stick with the blues for the city commute, but favor the greens for long days. - Andrew forever confused by the brown-blue, brown-green color naming convention, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
A huge thank you to everybody who came out. Organizing rides like this helps to motivate me for these rides that are right out our back door here in Ventura. I am pretty sure everybody had a great time, some new thresholds were set and everybody had a smile by the time they were done, no mechanicals or even flats that I know of. Pretty much a perfect day, even the weather worked out. That wind advisory that never panned out, thank God, is here today with sustained 20mph out of the west and gusts way beyond that, shaking the windows while I type. I threw up some flick pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157633193081781/ We need to do this more often! Rob On Sunday, April 7, 2013 11:24:32 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, you put on a good ride! I had an amazing time, and can only believe that everyone else did as well. Thanks for taking the lead on organizing this and getting all these folks together to go on such a great ride. Seven hours of bliss riding through bike paths, oak-shaded ranch roads, and picturesque towns in coastal Southern California. I can't think of a better day! Here are some pics of the day: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157633189393041 Cheers, David On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:10 AM, rperks perk...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: A quick reminder and an update that this ride is next week, and still on. Meeting place is the NW corner of Garden St and Santa Clara in Ventura, Ca 93001. This is the center of the block between the Patagonia headquarters / store and a discount shop up the street, Real Cheap Sports, so if you need some gear after the ride could be a good time to shop. Meeting time is around 9AM with a 9:30 roll out You can hit me with an email at this account perks.rob@gmail. if you need more info See you soon Rob oceanaircycles.com Ventura, Ca On Friday, February 22, 2013 9:39:06 AM UTC-8, Bryan wrote: Sounds great! I should be able to make it. Bryan On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:12:01 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote: Save the Date, if you still can, and have the time to make it to our little part of the SoCal playground. April 7 is gelling as the date for this year's Sulphur Mtn loop out of Ventura. I revised the back end of the loop a bit from years past, and you can see this year's route here: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/**2159896http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2159896 47 miles and 3700 feet of climbing. Start is in Ventura, Up the River Trail to sulphur Mtn where it is a 10 mile dirt climb, with a great drop back into Ojai, then home through a combination of country roads and the river trail. Meet up in Ventura near Garden St and Santa Clara by 9 and hit the road around 9:30. This is a no man left behind sort of ride. We will be taking breaks for re-groups etc. I recommend 3 water bottles as a minimum for the climb up Sulphur. Tires 32mm wide for the dirt, gearing for 8-10% grades and brakes in order for the back side of the mountain are all suggested as well. We will stop at one of the many options for lunch in Ojai to grab something quick to eat and get back on the Road. This is a no host ride and not associated or sponsored by Ocean Air Cycles, just a bunch of like minded folks getting together for a fun ride. Feel free to invite friends and spread the word. The ride is all about having fun and enjoying the local scenery, pace is moderate, by no means a hammer fest, but the climbing will likely test your endurance. I am looking forward to riding with all of you, meeting some new friends and sharing some of the best riding our region has to offer. -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: CL Stumpjumper frame
Too kind... I definitely have a weakness for StumpJumpers (and RockHoppers, which also make great riders)... Here are a few others from my past and present collection: 1985 Blue Stumpy (repaint)http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/sets/72157623574409014/ 1983 Tim Neenan Stumpyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/6363178067/in/set-72157623733426591 1983(/84?) Drum-braked Stumpy (aka Drumpy) http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/sets/72157623597477575/ 1986 Rockhopper (internal-geared)http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/sets/72157615999156145/ Of these, I think the 85 StumpJumper and the 86 Rockhopper ride the best... the geometry just feels right. BB On Saturday, April 6, 2013 1:52:18 PM UTC-4, William wrote: mine is a 1985 stumpjumper sport. it was definitely inspired by bobby -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
I was a fantastic day. Lots of great people and great riding. Thanks, Rob! Here are some cruddy phone pics I snapped along the way: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwedgar/sets/72157633193342177/. Looking forward to the next time! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] A Rambouillet, Paul Racer Ms, Longboards, and Grand Bois Cypres
I mounted a pair of Grand Bois Cypres - 700x30 (they are supposed to actually measure 32mm, but I don't have a good way to check) - tires on my Rambouillet this weekend and went out for a ride. I had been debating the purchase for a little while because I was concerned about clearance under my Longboards. For a trip on the CO Towpath, I mounted a pair of Schwalbe Marathon 32s, and they just made it, although a little tight for my taste. However, they were just fine over the rough-ish surface of the towpath. At this point, I was using Silver sidepulls. Recently, I switched to Paul Racer Ms, and decided to take the Grand Bois plunge. Elton@Harris felt that the tires would fit under the fenders, and he was indeed correct. Either the Cypres are a little smaller than the Marathons, or the Racer Ms allow the fender to raise a little higher than the Silvers. Could be both. In any case, the tires fit fine. I was also wondering if the purchase of the Grand Bois tires would be worth it. I had been running Paselas, and they were fine. My Ram with Dura-Ace 7700 hubs rides like glass. But, add in the Cypres, and it rides like glass coated in butter. Man, is that one smooth bike now. One thing that I was not expecting was the improved cornering. Now, I'm not Jobst Brandt or anything when it comes to turning... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_urSQl6wUA5g/S53M3cq118I/H48/iMcTHor25qM/s1600/tiretest.jpg ...nor did the Ram corner poorly before, but with the new tires, it was just so smoth. I could lean the bike over and it never wavered from what seemed like a perfect arc. I wonder if this has to do with the roundness of the tire? It seems like the wheel is just rolling over a large glass marble or something. The bike also seemed easier to control and even more stable at very slow speeds. Once again, these are improvements over already excellent handling characteristics. Anyway, I'm just putting this out there as one opinion on the size of a 32mm tire under fenders on a Rambouillet (it fits!), and how Grand Bois Cypres tires ride (they're awesome!). Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Quickbeam cranks
All parts have finally, slowly been accumulated, so, this unbuilt orange 60cm (c-t) Quickbeam in my closet may soon be roadworthy. Question for the group I have two cranksets ready to go: 1) 40t TA Pro 5 Vis Cyclotouriste in perfect vintage condition and 2) 40t Sugino RD2, which is a bit scratched up Any hints on set up for the TA, regarding BB length or any other fit problems? I was going to run 40t in the front, 15t fixed and either a 16t free or go big and run 16/19 White Industries DOS. In general, I'd run about 72 gear inches fixed and 68 gear inches free (with a bail-out if I went with the DOS). Initial build will be with Jitensha bars for city riding. Any thoughts? Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Rambouillet, Paul Racer Ms, Longboards, and Grand Bois Cypres
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 10:46 -0700, stevew wrote: Recently, I switched to Paul Racer Ms, and decided to take the Grand Bois plunge. Elton@Harris felt that the tires would fit under the fenders, and he was indeed correct. Either the Cypres are a little smaller than the Marathons, or the Racer Ms allow the fender to raise a little higher than the Silvers. Could be both. In any case, the tires fit fine. Center pull design does offer a little more headroom under the brake arch than dual pivot sidepulls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam cranks
I use a 113 mm Phil for the Pro 5 Vis 46 t singles on my Riv fixies, one 126 OL, the other 130. I used an assym 115 Phil on the Pro 5 Vis 44/30 double on the Ram, this last giving me a straight chain with the #4 17 t cog. A 70 fixed gear is a wonderful thing. I run between 65 and 75 depending on bike+load weight. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: All parts have finally, slowly been accumulated, so, this unbuilt orange 60cm (c-t) Quickbeam in my closet may soon be roadworthy. Question for the group I have two cranksets ready to go: 1) 40t TA Pro 5 Vis Cyclotouriste in perfect vintage condition and 2) 40t Sugino RD2, which is a bit scratched up Any hints on set up for the TA, regarding BB length or any other fit problems? I was going to run 40t in the front, 15t fixed and either a 16t free or go big and run 16/19 White Industries DOS. In general, I'd run about 72 gear inches fixed and 68 gear inches free (with a bail-out if I went with the DOS). Initial build will be with Jitensha bars for city riding. Any thoughts? Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
I think the RB-T would not be a great choice for a short person. Better to stick with the smaller-wheel bikes. Jim On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:02:28 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] More Diamonds and Midged Hunqapillar
Very nice!!! Let me know how you like those bars. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: In the never ending quest to always change a good thing, I replaced the Noodles on the Hunqa (still going strong on the Hilsen - won't take em off that one) with Midge bars. They fit the dirt dynamic of the Mammoth bike better. I still had to diamond 'em up, tho: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEDaGcN Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Moustache vs. Noodle bar reach overlay with pics
Ha! I love the chicken shot. Very cool. Thanks for the write up and info and pics. Always good to get the right position dialed in. I am trying that with my Noodle Sam now, but getting left arm tingles and shoulder pain AFTER riding. I suspect it is the longer reach than I am used to. The 52 Sam is a longer reach frame (50cm with 8cm stem with bars/saddle level) than my Bleriot (45.5). Not sure what to do. When I ride, it feels fine, but later, I got soreness in shoulder and arm, tingles in hand. Right now I have the bars at max height to shorten the reach. I am at 48cm now with the bars all the way up. If that doesn't do it, before getting a shorter stem, I may go to 'staches since I have always wanted to try them and, as the overlay shows, they are shorter reach by a couple cm's which should put me in the zone my body remembers. If that doesn't work - Albatross bars, which givs a reach variety as long or as short as you could dream of. If that doesn't work, time to cry and go to the doctor and see what is wrong with me, if anything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Moustache vs. Noodle bar reach overlay with pics
Ha! I love the chicken shot. Very cool. Thanks for the write up and info and pics. Always good to get the right position dialed in. I am trying that with my Noodle Sam now, but getting left arm tingles and shoulder pain AFTER riding. I suspect it is the longer reach of the Sam than I am used to. The 52 Sam is a longer TT frame than my 55 Bleriot, though I PBH into those sizes. When I ride, it feels fine, but later, I got soreness in shoulder and arm, tingles in hand. Right now I have the bars at max height to shorten the reach. I am at 48cm reach now with the bars all the way up. If that doesn't do it, before getting a shorter stem, I may go to 'staches since I have always wanted to try them and, as the overlay shows, they are shorter reach by a couple cm's which should put me in the zone my body remembers. If that doesn't work - Albatross bars, which givs a reach variety as long or as short as you could dream of. If that doesn't work, time to cry and go to the doctor and see what is wrong with me, if anything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
Rob, thanks again for organizing a great day! The route was amazing and really shows what SoCal has to offer. It was nice to meet new faces and their bikes, make contacts for future rides and chat about our common appreciation for all things bicycles. Had been looking forward to meeting and riding with Mike Shiller but the drive from Northern San Diego county 6 hrs RT would be difficult as someone said traffic through Los Angeles is an adventure unto itself. I'm sure we'll see him on the next one. Here are my images from the ride, I threw in some from my early drive up the day before after all this is documenting my experience enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157633188706315/ Hugh Sunland, CA On Monday, April 8, 2013 10:45:56 AM UTC-7, Bryan wrote: I was a fantastic day. Lots of great people and great riding. Thanks, Rob! Here are some cruddy phone pics I snapped along the way: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwedgar/sets/72157633193342177/. Looking forward to the next time! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
Good point, Jim. I forgot about that :) The little LHT would be nice, but I think I'll have quite a job locating one. On Monday, April 8, 2013 11:07:19 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I think the RB-T would not be a great choice for a short person. Better to stick with the smaller-wheel bikes. Jim On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:02:28 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
How tall is your girlfriend; what size is the bike? On Monday, April 8, 2013 10:02:28 AM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!
Not my business, of course, but really, is hauling 30-40lbs of groceries the best application for your new Ram ? I thought that 20lbs was about the maximum. The SamH , which you did not enjoy as much seemed like a better Riv for errand running . I know you use your bikes a lot for transport and errand running, but I would hate to see one of those lovely Rivendells vandalized or stolen, which is one of the reasons , I suspect, you have the Fargo and you've had other bikes too as utility bikes. On Saturday, April 6, 2013 9:43:57 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613# I've added a Fly rack and a small seat wedge for basic kit, but otherwise, as you see it. The wheels are loaners, hope to get my own shortly. Pro 5 Vis 44/30 pulling 14-15-16-17-18-20-23 7 speed cassette by 7400 series derailleurs, with old Dura Ace SPD pedals and 7 speed Dura Ace dt shifters -- indexed! First indexed drivetrain I've owned since, what, 1993. Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks are light and roll quite well despite the armored tread -- would love to get some very nice Compass Bike tires. 9 cm Nitto stem with 42 cm Noodles: I've got the bar a bit higher than on the other Rivs, but also 1 cm further out -- serendipity, but the original setup seems to be a keeper. Shimano levers pulling (for now): front: Nashbar, rear: Shimano A550. Nitto Jaguar post (thanks again, Tom!), original issue Flite, used but good tape, Fly rack. That's all you need! I think this will take over grocery runs from the Fargo, which will go back to off road duty. Thanks to Tim Whalen, sometime of this list, for a good price and very easy terms! -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Brooks Saddle, bag and Specialties TA chain rings
Brooks Finesse ti-railed saddle and Challenge tool bag, both honey brown. The Finesse is a shorter version of the B17. Slight mark on the top of the bag (from the saddle). Few miles on the saddle and bag but both in wonderful condition. $225 Specialties TA chain rings (110 BCD) TA Syrius, 34 and 48T rings. The 48 was mounted but may not have been ridden. The 34t has minor evidence of being used. $100 for the pair. TA SRM-branded 48T, low mileage $45 *Buy all three TA rings $125* FSA 48T rings (110 BCD) One new, one barely used. $38 and $33 FSA 46T (110 BCD), $33 *Buy any two FSA rings $60, all three $80* * *All prices include postage. Please contact offlist for photos, etc. Thanks! Anne in not so sunny MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!
Do you have any idea the actual width of those Kojak 35s? They look skinnier than Jack Browns in the pictures to my untrained eye. On Monday, April 8, 2013 7:28:08 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I was very tired yesterday, so only chased my brother to the store and back, some 6-7 miles rt. But this ride did include a fastish, ~1 mile downhill with turns, and it did include some last minute brake-'n'-turns as my brother remembered a turn at the last minute. The quality that jumped out from this little ride was neutrality, not in the sense of bland, but in the sense that the bike disappears -- causes no problems. It seems very, very stable without hesitating or over-reacting to steering input -- the sort of handling that allows you to sit up and ride one-handed as you look over your shoulder while rolling fast downhill. I would guess that the 35 mm tires help bring out this particular sweetness in the frame -- would you other owners of Rams describe the handling in the same way, and (2) does this depend on tires of a certain width? What would the Ram handle like with 28s? -- I have no desire to install 28s, but I'm curious to learn if 35s are the ideal match. Must add hooks for the bungees of my grocery panniers and try the bike with a 30-40 lb rear load. More as the miles come. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:26 AM, samh rbwo...@yahoo.com javascript:wrote: That's a fine looking bike, Patrick. Many years ago, I wanted to buy a 68cm Ram and to my surprise a local dealer had one in his shop. It was painted in the new blue color, like yours. I test road it, and I liked it, but I preferred the old orange color, so I passed on the bike. After seeing your bike, now I prefer the blue! I'm interested in hearing more about how you like the ride. On Sunday, April 7, 2013 3:25:22 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Whoops: photos here. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.com wrote: All: thanks for the compliments. Very tired today, so just another very brief 6-7 mile ride, but a salient quality seems to be the Ram's utter stabillity -- stability as opposed to sluggishness. I was following my brother (and struggling to keep up, he on his 60 mm Big Apple Karate Monkey -- but then I was keeping it mostly in the 70 gear while he was shifting a lot), and he made a couple of sudden turns as he remembered his way. The Ram braked and turned without any qualms or crisis. Perhaps it feels a bit less quick to turn in than my customs, but it has been long enough since one of those had a freewheel that it's hard to really remember. At any rate, at least unladen or, as today, with just a small (~5-7 lb) on one side of the rack, the Ram is definitely one of those superior bikes. I must try it with a heavy rear load (30-40 lb) to see if it handles rear loads better than my custom. Joe: photo with rack attached; not a good one, I' afraid -- should have removed the pannier. This particular iteration of the Fly, unlike the others I've owned, has a neat attachment that lets you use seatstay rack braze ons: these can be bolted to the single strut, that otherwise bolts to the rear brake mounting bolt, and they in turn to the braze ons. Because the Ram's rack strut braze ons are on the inside instead of outside of the stays, I had to do a bit of impromptu crushing that, while it works fine, is not quite symmetrical. This par -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com __**__** __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Dirty Diablo Take Two
What is all of that green stuff covering the ground? Painted for tourism. What I can't figure out is what that wet stuff is they keep crossing through. Stupid drought. Great ride, great report, and great photos, Manny! I got a kick out of the juxtaposition of your Sam and clothes, and the rest of them. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 8, 2013 10:21:29 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: What is all of that green stuff covering the ground? [Wonderful photos. They remind me of the old 20th Century Fox Motion Picture Ranch in the hills just north of Malibu where I worked as a night patrolman back in the mid '70s, home to film sets for M*A*S*H, Tora! Tora! Tora! and Swiss Fambly Robinson. Live oaks, brush covered hills, dirt roads ... My job was to drive patrols over ~8 miles of dirt road and doubletrack to (1) keep out vandals who might climb over the fence and (2) chase the resident cows away from the Swiss Fambly Robinson set's potted exotic fauna. I slept many a night in Hawkeye's tent. We were told not to exceed 12 mph, at which a complete patrol would take 45 minutes. I came close to hitting 15 minutes, hitting 70+ on some of the wider straights at 2 am -- we'd destroy the cars after a few weeks of this treatment -- old junkers from the 20th Century lot. Great fun. Beside getting paid, I aced our science and math tutorials with all the dead time in which to study -- Thomas Aquinas College was just across the street (= Malibu Canyon Road) at the time. The ranch supervisor had a very nice house and I remember thinking them very decadent -- after all I was attending a conservative Catholic Great Books college across the way -- as the son, just a couple of years older than I, would bring in his nocturnal girlfriends for a night of ranch touring in his El Camino combined with pot smoking and, no doubt, fornincation. And the super's house has naked lady posters on the wall of the billiard room! Great fun. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljo...@hotmail.comjavascript: wrote: For those that are interested Jenny did her ride report and can be read here. By far some of my favorite shots of me are from her. Thanks to Jenny for the wonderful pictures. http://www.plattyjo.com/2013/04/dirty-diablo-revisited-with-ride-on/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dirty Diablo Take Two
Manny Could you have napped in that little cavelet? Was it deep enough? On Monday, April 8, 2013 8:41:52 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: For those that are interested Jenny did her ride report and can be read here. By far some of my favorite shots of me are from her. Thanks to Jenny for the wonderful pictures. http://www.plattyjo.com/2013/04/dirty-diablo-revisited-with-ride-on/ On Sunday, April 7, 2013 8:04:23 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Trying to get my ride report in before Jenny does because she does a better job. When Jenny asked if we could redo the last Diablo ride but with mountain bikes I didn't think she meant super suspension mountain bike riding. I pretty lucky and naive when it comes to my bike riding and I'm incredibly lucky to have a bike that compensate for my stupid decisions(most of the time). Jenny invited her Ride On crew with their new fancy jersey. We had a big group of 8 with their full suspension mountain bikes and me in my vans and basket non-suspension bikes. It looked pretty funny. We rode up the road and when we got to the ranger station I found out that one of my brake pad for my front left brake was missing. Nothing cotton handlebar tape wrap could't fix! I magyvered my new cotton brake pad and made sure I used my rear for the descents. We took a pretty chill pace as we rode up to Juniper with the exception of Shawn who flew passed roadies and waited an hour for us at the campgrounds. Off on to Burma Trail we were greeted with howling wind and thick fog. I took my sweet time coming down walking some sections, apparently your braking is compromised when you only have your rear brake; who would of thought? We extended the ride once we got back on the road by taking BBQ Terrace to get some river crossing in. We finished the ride with wet feet and huge smiles We even washed our bikes at the last park with the hose there. Great to meet so many new friends. Looking forward to riding more with such a great group. Pictures of wet feet prove that the ride was good. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjED4UKW Manny These are my cycling clothes Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Singe TT Sams on Riv Site
There is a 60cm 2tt Sam on the specials page right now. :) On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 10:31:10 PM UTC-7, samh wrote: Arghh! No 60cm frames? :( On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 1:06:52 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Those are great! Touch too small, or I'd jump on it. Cheers, David On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Peter M uscpet...@gmail.com wrote: Hate double TTs? Riv has the Sam for you! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-hillborne-56stt.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Manny in PDX ride... Sat 4/13
There was another discussion on this topic but the date in the heading of that one was wrong so I'm starting a fresh discussion. Manny is coming to town (Portland, OR) this week and wants to go for a ride on Saturday 4/13. I'm not sure if there's a plan already brewing. I do know that he has to be back to his hotel by 1pm. I'm up for whatever. I'm willing to put something together if need be. List member Norm and I were talking about possibly heading out for an overnighter after the ride. That will be somewhat weather dependent. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Rivendell Spring Camp Saturday, April 27th
Hello All- We will be hosting a Spring Camp Out this Saturday, April 27th in the Shell Ridge/ Mt. Diablo area. If you'd like to join us, shoot me, Keven, an email (ke...@rivbike.com) to let me know. We're limiting the group size to 12 folks. Myself and at least one other Riv employee will join us. You're on your own with food, bikes, gear, etc. but can arrange to borrow a demo bike and even demo camping gear if arranged ahead of time. It's a great opportunity to try out something new! The charge is $50 to cover our camp site, some low-carb snack food, and gets you a $25 Rivendell credit to be used within 30 days. Hope you can join us! -keven -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
Hi Joe, My girlfriend is 5' 4, the bike is a 50cm, but it's yet to be determined whether the bike will fit. No idea. It's just a bike that came on my radar. I just figured at least a few people around here would have some experience with the RB-T and could give me their impression of the bike. On Monday, April 8, 2013 11:58:50 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: How tall is your girlfriend; what size is the bike? On Monday, April 8, 2013 10:02:28 AM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Manny in PDX ride... Sat 4/13
Actually I need to be back before 3ish. So two more hours to ride around. I'm up for whatever. Meet somewhere for coffee in the morning 9ish? On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:58:45 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: There was another discussion on this topic but the date in the heading of that one was wrong so I'm starting a fresh discussion. Manny is coming to town (Portland, OR) this week and wants to go for a ride on Saturday 4/13. I'm not sure if there's a plan already brewing. I do know that he has to be back to his hotel by 1pm. I'm up for whatever. I'm willing to put something together if need be. List member Norm and I were talking about possibly heading out for an overnighter after the ride. That will be somewhat weather dependent. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
The 1994 RBT is a solid bike with decent resale value. I've never been terribly fond of the components on any of the older RBTs, but the 1994 was nice. There was toe clip overlap in basically every size, especially the small ones, if you run a fender. Some people have a bigger problem than others over that. On Monday, April 8, 2013 1:03:14 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: Hi Joe, My girlfriend is 5' 4, the bike is a 50cm, but it's yet to be determined whether the bike will fit. No idea. It's just a bike that came on my radar. I just figured at least a few people around here would have some experience with the RB-T and could give me their impression of the bike. On Monday, April 8, 2013 11:58:50 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: How tall is your girlfriend; what size is the bike? On Monday, April 8, 2013 10:02:28 AM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Manny in PDX ride... Sat 4/13
I'm in! Will be on a Riv this time, too. Overnighter is a no-go for me though. -Aaron Y Vancouver, WA On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.comwrote: Actually I need to be back before 3ish. So two more hours to ride around. I'm up for whatever. Meet somewhere for coffee in the morning 9ish? On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:58:45 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: There was another discussion on this topic but the date in the heading of that one was wrong so I'm starting a fresh discussion. Manny is coming to town (Portland, OR) this week and wants to go for a ride on Saturday 4/13. I'm not sure if there's a plan already brewing. I do know that he has to be back to his hotel by 1pm. I'm up for whatever. I'm willing to put something together if need be. List member Norm and I were talking about possibly heading out for an overnighter after the ride. That will be somewhat weather dependent. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Spring Camp Saturday, April 27th
great to see this happening again! My folks are in town that weekend so can't join, though certainly wish I could. On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:59:03 PM UTC-7, keven@rivendell wrote: Hello All- We will be hosting a Spring Camp Out this Saturday, April 27th in the Shell Ridge/ Mt. Diablo area. If you'd like to join us, shoot me, Keven, an email (ke...@rivbike.comjavascript:) to let me know. We're limiting the group size to 12 folks. Myself and at least one other Riv employee will join us. You're on your own with food, bikes, gear, etc. but can arrange to borrow a demo bike and even demo camping gear if arranged ahead of time. It's a great opportunity to try out something new! The charge is $50 to cover our camp site, some low-carb snack food, and gets you a $25 Rivendell credit to be used within 30 days. Hope you can join us! -keven -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam cranks
I really like 40x15 on my Quickbeam, but I've been using the Surly Dingle cogs for a few years, with a 42 or 44 ring. An ideal setup would be 38/44 rings and the 17/21 dingle cog... Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, April 8, 2013 11:00:25 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: All parts have finally, slowly been accumulated, so, this unbuilt orange 60cm (c-t) Quickbeam in my closet may soon be roadworthy. Question for the group I have two cranksets ready to go: 1) 40t TA Pro 5 Vis Cyclotouriste in perfect vintage condition and 2) 40t Sugino RD2, which is a bit scratched up Any hints on set up for the TA, regarding BB length or any other fit problems? I was going to run 40t in the front, 15t fixed and either a 16t free or go big and run 16/19 White Industries DOS. In general, I'd run about 72 gear inches fixed and 68 gear inches free (with a bail-out if I went with the DOS). Initial build will be with Jitensha bars for city riding. Any thoughts? Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: April showers bring Grundens Rain Poncho
Bump. Also willing to trade for a Dirt Drop stem. Or, heck, anything else suitably cool and interesting. But a good, clean dirt drop is what I could really use. Cheers, -Allan On Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:58:26 AM UTC-7, Allan in Portland wrote: Hey all, Been out of the loop. Hope things are going well. I think there might be snow on the ground some places, but here in Portland it's sunny and to die for. I have no excuse to be typing on the computer right now, and hopefully won't be shortly hereafter (ie. I probably won't respond to email until later this evening, west coast). Anyway, Grundens rain cape. I'd always wanted to give rain ponchos a try. Turns out they aren't for me. Perhaps some one else similarly curious wanting to give one a try for half the price? $65 shipped to your door. Details and photos herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/47116230@N00/sets/72157631920243259/with/8602961991/ . Thanks much, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 64 cm Atlantis - custom blue
Jim, I remember reading about your Atlantis years ago on your blog (if I'm
remembering correctly) and it was an inspiration to me to buy it in the
first place - so thanks for that.
It's been a great bike - it's kind of the generalist of the bike world,
no? Can do almost anything at least competently. It always seemed,
though, like where it would really excel would be in distance cycling -
Brevets and whatnot - packing stuff to go with you..and that was just never
me. I just had more fun when I could take it off road a bit. The part of
cycling I always enjoy the most is when I'm off road somewhere and I feel
like I'm part of nature. It makes me feel like a kid again. And the
Atlantis can do some of that, it's just not it's forte in my opinion.
Anyway, I think the Ogre will work out fine. Haven't sold the Atlantis
yet. It turns out my CL ad wasn't hitting the Boulder index so had to
repost on Sunday. I've had a few hits but nothing serious yet.
In the group's experience is this price going to work or will I need to
drop it?
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
I owned an Atlantis for several years, and I own an Ogre now. I will be a
bit of a contrarian by agreeing with your decision to swap the Atlantis for
the Ogre. Aside from traditional geometry and lugs and the Rivendell
mystique, the Ogre has all the good stuff the Atlantis has, and then some.
Loads of tire clearance, more brake options, Rohloff option, numerous rack
options, trailer hitch option, easily single-speeded, tough, not as much
regret (or as hard to replace) if it gets damaged, etc.
On Sunday, April 7, 2013 8:23:45 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
That makes sense, Drew. The consideration that with the Atlantis you can
then easily switch back to an all-rounder at little to no cost down the
road is worth including in the calculation. Yes, it costs a few hundred now
(less if you can buy used components via a WTB post here), but the long
term costs of the switch may be harder to see, especially for your wife.
WIll you want to do a tour in the years to come? Some road/dirt rides?
Living in Boulder, there are some amazing rides to Estes Park that offer
great camping etc that an all-round Atlantis is built for. Whatever you
decide, have a blast!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, April 6, 2013 10:11:30 PM UTC-6, drewjensen wrote:
Believe me that I never envisioned selling it when I bought it. It did
occur to me that I could retrofit the Atlantis to do more tough stuff
riding. I started putting a list of all of the parts to really do it right
and it was going to be a few hundred dollars - and I started pitching it to
my wife and she couldn't get past the idea that I just had the wrong tool
for the job. If I wanted to be riding on trails then I should stop trying
to make the Atlantis fit if another bike might do better. Plus, a few
hundred dollars that we really don't have versus a revenue-neutral switch
to a mountain bike (hopefully).
Anyway, it's an emotional decision having to part with this bike, but if
you take the emotion out of it I think (hope) that it's the wise move. I
guess we'll see.
On Saturday, April 6, 2013 3:55:13 AM UTC-6, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Hi Drew!
That is a sweet looking Atlantis! I'm going to second Tony's
recommendation to try a set of fat knobby-type tires before parting with
that bike. I've extensively used my Atlantis with Schwalbe Marathon XRs
(700x40) on the trails and primitive roads on the Navajo Rez in the four
corners area of Arizona and the riding is very similar to the trails in the
Front Range area. The Atlantis is a great off-road bike with the right
tires. Oh, and with the 700x40 XRs, there still miles of space, so easy
enough to go much fatter.
Good Luck!
lyle
On 5 April 2013 12:01, Tonester tony@gmail.com wrote:
Hey there!
I'm a fellow custom color Atlantis owner (red!) and totally get your
dilemma - fortunately I'm able to maintain a stable of bikes so the
temptation to sell the Atlantis doesn't come up. I fed my jones for a
29'er disc brake bike with a Civilian Luddite and love it, but not to the
extent of choosing it over the Riv. Have you tried super-fat semi-knobs
on
the Atlantis? Looks like the Ogre will handle up to a 2.5 tire , and
I've
seen Atlantii with 50mm slicks which is nearly 2. I'd whip a set of
knobbies on the Atlantis and give it a go before giving it up. I think
that yellow all-rounder that hit the list recently is one of the coolest
bikes I've ever seen.
Best of luck in any event!
Tony
On Thursday, April 4, 2013 6:52:06 PM UTC-7, drewjensen wrote:
Hey everyone - I moved to the Boulder area a couple of years ago and
there are so many great trails here compared to where I lived in the Bay
Area for so long. I've taken my Atlantis out on them, but my wife has
tired of my suggesting new ways to retrofit it to make better
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 64 cm Atlantis - custom blue
Honestly Drew, I wouldnt drop the price at all. That is a very nice
bike at an insanely reasonable price. Good luck!-Mike
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Andrew Jensen
andrew.howard.jen...@gmail.com wrote:
Jim, I remember reading about your Atlantis years ago on your blog (if I'm
remembering correctly) and it was an inspiration to me to buy it in the
first place - so thanks for that.
It's been a great bike - it's kind of the generalist of the bike world,
no? Can do almost anything at least competently. It always seemed,
though, like where it would really excel would be in distance cycling -
Brevets and whatnot - packing stuff to go with you..and that was just never
me. I just had more fun when I could take it off road a bit. The part of
cycling I always enjoy the most is when I'm off road somewhere and I feel
like I'm part of nature. It makes me feel like a kid again. And the
Atlantis can do some of that, it's just not it's forte in my opinion.
Anyway, I think the Ogre will work out fine. Haven't sold the Atlantis
yet. It turns out my CL ad wasn't hitting the Boulder index so had to
repost on Sunday. I've had a few hits but nothing serious yet.
In the group's experience is this price going to work or will I need to
drop it?
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
I owned an Atlantis for several years, and I own an Ogre now. I will be a
bit of a contrarian by agreeing with your decision to swap the Atlantis for
the Ogre. Aside from traditional geometry and lugs and the Rivendell
mystique, the Ogre has all the good stuff the Atlantis has, and then some.
Loads of tire clearance, more brake options, Rohloff option, numerous rack
options, trailer hitch option, easily single-speeded, tough, not as much
regret (or as hard to replace) if it gets damaged, etc.
On Sunday, April 7, 2013 8:23:45 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
That makes sense, Drew. The consideration that with the Atlantis you can
then easily switch back to an all-rounder at little to no cost down the
road is worth including in the calculation. Yes, it costs a few hundred now
(less if you can buy used components via a WTB post here), but the long
term costs of the switch may be harder to see, especially for your wife.
WIll you want to do a tour in the years to come? Some road/dirt rides?
Living in Boulder, there are some amazing rides to Estes Park that offer
great camping etc that an all-round Atlantis is built for. Whatever you
decide, have a blast!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, April 6, 2013 10:11:30 PM UTC-6, drewjensen wrote:
Believe me that I never envisioned selling it when I bought it. It did
occur to me that I could retrofit the Atlantis to do more tough stuff
riding. I started putting a list of all of the parts to really do it right
and it was going to be a few hundred dollars - and I started pitching it to
my wife and she couldn't get past the idea that I just had the wrong tool
for the job. If I wanted to be riding on trails then I should stop trying
to make the Atlantis fit if another bike might do better. Plus, a few
hundred dollars that we really don't have versus a revenue-neutral switch
to a mountain bike (hopefully).
Anyway, it's an emotional decision having to part with this bike, but
if you take the emotion out of it I think (hope) that it's the wise move.
I guess we'll see.
On Saturday, April 6, 2013 3:55:13 AM UTC-6, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Hi Drew!
That is a sweet looking Atlantis! I'm going to second Tony's
recommendation to try a set of fat knobby-type tires before parting with
that bike. I've extensively used my Atlantis with Schwalbe Marathon XRs
(700x40) on the trails and primitive roads on the Navajo Rez in the four
corners area of Arizona and the riding is very similar to the trails in
the
Front Range area. The Atlantis is a great off-road bike with the right
tires. Oh, and with the 700x40 XRs, there still miles of space, so easy
enough to go much fatter.
Good Luck!
lyle
On 5 April 2013 12:01, Tonester tony@gmail.com wrote:
Hey there!
I'm a fellow custom color Atlantis owner (red!) and totally get
your dilemma - fortunately I'm able to maintain a stable of bikes so the
temptation to sell the Atlantis doesn't come up. I fed my jones for a
29'er disc brake bike with a Civilian Luddite and love it, but not to the
extent of choosing it over the Riv. Have you tried super-fat semi-knobs
on
the Atlantis? Looks like the Ogre will handle up to a 2.5 tire , and
I've
seen Atlantii with 50mm slicks which is nearly 2. I'd whip a set of
knobbies on the Atlantis and give it a go before giving it up. I think
that yellow all-rounder that hit the list recently is one of the coolest
bikes I've ever seen.
Best of luck in any event!
Tony
On Thursday, April 4, 2013 6:52:06 PM UTC-7, drewjensen wrote:
Hey everyone - I moved to the Boulder
[RBW] Chaparral Trail ride
Taped up my busted toe and headed north to the Chaparral Trail and surrounding area. Despite the ominous look in the morning the rain held off and it was a nice overcast 70ish degrees. Atlantis handled the pavement, good to bad gravel and completely rutted out by ATVs and backhoes dirt/mud without hesitation; even outran a loose (and notably slow/lazy) dog on some of the nicer gravel. http://goo.gl/4MoRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Chaparral Trail ride
How nice! Where is the Chaparral Trail? On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:25 PM, john muhl johnm...@gmail.com wrote: Taped up my busted toe and headed north to the Chaparral Trail and surrounding area. Despite the ominous look in the morning the rain held off and it was a nice overcast 70ish degrees. Atlantis handled the pavement, good to bad gravel and completely rutted out by ATVs and backhoes dirt/mud without hesitation; even outran a loose (and notably slow/lazy) dog on some of the nicer gravel. http://goo.gl/4MoRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Dynamo Lights and Theft
I came out of my Dr appointment today to find the 5 zip ties holding the wire connecting my dynamo hub to my light removed and the wire dangling. It's just a cheap IQ Fly. Is light theft like this common? It was on a busy street in daylight. An Acorn bag was left alone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Chaparral Trail ride
Thanks nice ramble report, looks like it was a peaceful ride despite the dog. Hugh Sunland, CA On Monday, April 8, 2013 2:25:14 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Taped up my busted toe and headed north to the Chaparral Trail and surrounding area. Despite the ominous look in the morning the rain held off and it was a nice overcast 70ish degrees. Atlantis handled the pavement, good to bad gravel and completely rutted out by ATVs and backhoes dirt/mud without hesitation; even outran a loose (and notably slow/lazy) dog on some of the nicer gravel. http://goo.gl/4MoRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Chaparral Trail ride
That muddy lane sure looks like a blast! 70's? Wow. We just hit 50. For my ride it was 30 to start, no wind, and then for my 10 mile descent back home 40+ mph winds. I was almost going as slow down hill as I had in the morning going uphill. But if you gotta have wind, best have it on the down hill side. I was thankful for wool. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 8, 2013 3:25:14 PM UTC-6, john muhl wrote: Taped up my busted toe and headed north to the Chaparral Trail and surrounding area. Despite the ominous look in the morning the rain held off and it was a nice overcast 70ish degrees. Atlantis handled the pavement, good to bad gravel and completely rutted out by ATVs and backhoes dirt/mud without hesitation; even outran a loose (and notably slow/lazy) dog on some of the nicer gravel. http://goo.gl/4MoRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Chaparral Trail ride
Looks like Texas. Based on the name of the trail and Farmersville in the last pic. http://www.traillink.com/trail/chaparral-rail-trail.aspx On Monday, April 8, 2013 2:42:31 PM UTC-7, René wrote: How nice! Where is the Chaparral Trail? On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:25 PM, john muhl john...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Taped up my busted toe and headed north to the Chaparral Trail and surrounding area. Despite the ominous look in the morning the rain held off and it was a nice overcast 70ish degrees. Atlantis handled the pavement, good to bad gravel and completely rutted out by ATVs and backhoes dirt/mud without hesitation; even outran a loose (and notably slow/lazy) dog on some of the nicer gravel. http://goo.gl/4MoRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam cranks
Hey Philip, Out of curiosity, how many chain links it takes to work with your aforementioned drivetrain, a 38/44 x 17/21 flawlessly, if there is a such thing? On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I really like 40x15 on my Quickbeam, but I've been using the Surly Dingle cogs for a few years, with a 42 or 44 ring. An ideal setup would be 38/44 rings and the 17/21 dingle cog... Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, April 8, 2013 11:00:25 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: All parts have finally, slowly been accumulated, so, this unbuilt orange 60cm (c-t) Quickbeam in my closet may soon be roadworthy. Question for the group I have two cranksets ready to go: 1) 40t TA Pro 5 Vis Cyclotouriste in perfect vintage condition and 2) 40t Sugino RD2, which is a bit scratched up Any hints on set up for the TA, regarding BB length or any other fit problems? I was going to run 40t in the front, 15t fixed and either a 16t free or go big and run 16/19 White Industries DOS. In general, I'd run about 72 gear inches fixed and 68 gear inches free (with a bail-out if I went with the DOS). Initial build will be with Jitensha bars for city riding. Any thoughts? Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Chaparral Trail ride
It runs from Farmersville, TX in a NE direction. http://goo.gl/maps/4u4Du On Monday, April 8, 2013 4:42:31 PM UTC-5, René wrote: How nice! Where is the Chaparral Trail? On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:25 PM, john muhl john...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Taped up my busted toe and headed north to the Chaparral Trail and surrounding area. Despite the ominous look in the morning the rain held off and it was a nice overcast 70ish degrees. Atlantis handled the pavement, good to bad gravel and completely rutted out by ATVs and backhoes dirt/mud without hesitation; even outran a loose (and notably slow/lazy) dog on some of the nicer gravel. http://goo.gl/4MoRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Chaparral Trail ride
Yep that's it. On Monday, April 8, 2013 4:49:43 PM UTC-5, Stephen S wrote: Looks like Texas. Based on the name of the trail and Farmersville in the last pic. http://www.traillink.com/trail/chaparral-rail-trail.aspx On Monday, April 8, 2013 2:42:31 PM UTC-7, René wrote: How nice! Where is the Chaparral Trail? On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:25 PM, john muhl john...@gmail.com wrote: Taped up my busted toe and headed north to the Chaparral Trail and surrounding area. Despite the ominous look in the morning the rain held off and it was a nice overcast 70ish degrees. Atlantis handled the pavement, good to bad gravel and completely rutted out by ATVs and backhoes dirt/mud without hesitation; even outran a loose (and notably slow/lazy) dog on some of the nicer gravel. http://goo.gl/4MoRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Dynamo Lights and Theft
That sucks! Sorry to hear about that. Well, here in Twin Cities, Minnesota as soon as new mandatory bike lights law enacted; no functioning lights on your bike during dark hours, you will be fined $190! That to the raise of light thefts. Therefore, I had my lights affixed to my helmet and my messenger bag instead. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: I came out of my Dr appointment today to find the 5 zip ties holding the wire connecting my dynamo hub to my light removed and the wire dangling. It's just a cheap IQ Fly. Is light theft like this common? It was on a busy street in daylight. An Acorn bag was left alone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Chaparral Trail ride
Besides an elderly couple at the Farmersville end, the dog and a guy in a backhoe tearing through some brush the trail was all mine. Downtown Farmersville was hopping though. On Monday, April 8, 2013 4:45:49 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: Thanks nice ramble report, looks like it was a peaceful ride despite the dog. Hugh Sunland, CA On Monday, April 8, 2013 2:25:14 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Taped up my busted toe and headed north to the Chaparral Trail and surrounding area. Despite the ominous look in the morning the rain held off and it was a nice overcast 70ish degrees. Atlantis handled the pavement, good to bad gravel and completely rutted out by ATVs and backhoes dirt/mud without hesitation; even outran a loose (and notably slow/lazy) dog on some of the nicer gravel. http://goo.gl/4MoRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: FS: April showers bring Grundens Rain Poncho
Allan, I have an 8cm with 26.0 clamp Dia. Will trade. Marc Marc Schwartz 233 South Miranda Street Las Cruces, NM 88005 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Allan in Portland [allan_f...@aracnet.com] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:16 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: April showers bring Grundens Rain Poncho Bump. Also willing to trade for a Dirt Drop stem. Or, heck, anything else suitably cool and interesting. But a good, clean dirt drop is what I could really use. Cheers, -Allan On Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:58:26 AM UTC-7, Allan in Portland wrote: Hey all, Been out of the loop. Hope things are going well. I think there might be snow on the ground some places, but here in Portland it's sunny and to die for. I have no excuse to be typing on the computer right now, and hopefully won't be shortly hereafter (ie. I probably won't respond to email until later this evening, west coast). Anyway, Grundens rain cape. I'd always wanted to give rain ponchos a try. Turns out they aren't for me. Perhaps some one else similarly curious wanting to give one a try for half the price? $65 shipped to your door. Details and photos herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/47116230@N00/sets/72157631920243259/with/8602961991/. Thanks much, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Chaparral Trail ride
I was sure thankful for wool too. A short cool down and I was ready to grab a bite and not worry about smelling or looking too out of place. On Monday, April 8, 2013 4:48:43 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: That muddy lane sure looks like a blast! 70's? Wow. We just hit 50. For my ride it was 30 to start, no wind, and then for my 10 mile descent back home 40+ mph winds. I was almost going as slow down hill as I had in the morning going uphill. But if you gotta have wind, best have it on the down hill side. I was thankful for wool. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 8, 2013 3:25:14 PM UTC-6, john muhl wrote: Taped up my busted toe and headed north to the Chaparral Trail and surrounding area. Despite the ominous look in the morning the rain held off and it was a nice overcast 70ish degrees. Atlantis handled the pavement, good to bad gravel and completely rutted out by ATVs and backhoes dirt/mud without hesitation; even outran a loose (and notably slow/lazy) dog on some of the nicer gravel. http://goo.gl/4MoRP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Dynamo Lights and Theft
Gosh, that stinks, this is a fear of mine as i have an edelux and a supernova and like you i ride my bike to normal places like the doctor, store etc. It truly sucks, and there are a few things you can do to ward this off (use security bolts instead of normal allen ones, stick wax or glue in the bolt heads to make it harder to undo). But nothing is 100% fool-proof if someone really wants it. But in the end, we can't live in fear and our bikes are made to be used/enjoyed, so don't let this dissuade you from replacing it and riding on! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 64 cm Atlantis - custom blue
I'd hold tight on the price, at least for a bit. In the world of used bikes, if you attract the right buyer, the price doesn't matter. If you attract the wrong buyer, the price doesn't matter. IME, lowball prices attract the bottom feeders who'll suck the life out of you before deciding the bike isn't quite the right shade of blue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Hey I know this tall fello
Checking out flickr I found this guy during the Sac Tweed Ride... http://flic.kr/p/e9HvEp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
Hi Scot, I'm 5'-7 and fit a 53 RB-T. I think she should check it out, those are really nice bikes. On Monday, April 8, 2013 1:03:14 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: Hi Joe, My girlfriend is 5' 4, the bike is a 50cm, but it's yet to be determined whether the bike will fit. No idea. It's just a bike that came on my radar. I just figured at least a few people around here would have some experience with the RB-T and could give me their impression of the bike. On Monday, April 8, 2013 11:58:50 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: How tall is your girlfriend; what size is the bike? On Monday, April 8, 2013 10:02:28 AM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: April showers bring Grundens Rain Poncho
Actually, I'd prefer the 10. If you don't mind I'll wait and if there's no 10's forthcoming, I'll let you know. Thanks, -Allan On Monday, April 8, 2013 3:03:32 PM UTC-7, Mayfly wrote: Allan, I have an 8cm with 26.0 clamp Dia. Will trade. Marc Marc Schwartz 233 South Miranda Street Las Cruces, NM 88005 From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [ rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] on behalf of Allan in Portland [allan...@aracnet.com javascript:] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:16 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: April showers bring Grundens Rain Poncho Bump. Also willing to trade for a Dirt Drop stem. Or, heck, anything else suitably cool and interesting. But a good, clean dirt drop is what I could really use. Cheers, -Allan On Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:58:26 AM UTC-7, Allan in Portland wrote: Hey all, Been out of the loop. Hope things are going well. I think there might be snow on the ground some places, but here in Portland it's sunny and to die for. I have no excuse to be typing on the computer right now, and hopefully won't be shortly hereafter (ie. I probably won't respond to email until later this evening, west coast). Anyway, Grundens rain cape. I'd always wanted to give rain ponchos a try. Turns out they aren't for me. Perhaps some one else similarly curious wanting to give one a try for half the price? $65 shipped to your door. Details and photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/47116230@N00/sets/72157631920243259/with/8602961991/. Thanks much, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hey I know this tall fello
savoir faire is everywhere. ~mike On Monday, April 8, 2013 3:24:32 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Checking out flickr I found this guy during the Sac Tweed Ride... http://flic.kr/p/e9HvEp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Stolen Trek 850 - Santa Rosa, CA
Hey, folks I had a friend's old blue Trek 850 stolen out of my yard last week: http://www.biketinker.com/2013/projects/stolen-bike-new-dove-bars/ The real bummer is that I'd just finished swapping in the cockpit, with some parts sourced from this list and the Rivendell Garage Sale. If you see it around, maybe snap a picture of it and email me? It's not a crisis, since there were four other nicer bikes that weren't taken, but still a drag. I think I'll give my friend my gravel roadster, since it will fit her. I filed a police report, alerted the neighbors, and started locking my gate and shed again. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
sorry I missed the ride. I rode it with Rob a few years ago and really liked the Sulfur Mtn section. I couldn't convince my wife to come up with me so I could use the carpool lane. Without that It would probably be 4 hrs coming home on a Sunday afternoon thru LA and OC.. maybe we can do something in the Santa Monica's in May? Or David's Loch Leven ride? ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
If it'll fit buy it. Great bikes. I have one and it's one of the few bikes I own I wouldn't consider selling. They will fit Jack Browns with fenders (that's what I have on mine) which makes for a real nice ride. Not to mention you can throw a rack (I have front and rear) on it and carry stuff. Ihave bikes that cost a helluva lot more that I don't like as much as my RB-T. If I come across another in my size at a decent price I'll buy it as well. Cheers, Frank On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:02:28 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Stolen Trek 850 - Santa Rosa, CA
Och. Violations of space just seem to hit hard, don't they? Bike rustlin'. Didn't that used to be a hanging offense? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 8, 2013 5:43:11 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: Hey, folks I had a friend's old blue Trek 850 stolen out of my yard last week: http://www.biketinker.com/2013/projects/stolen-bike-new-dove-bars/ The real bummer is that I'd just finished swapping in the cockpit, with some parts sourced from this list and the Rivendell Garage Sale. If you see it around, maybe snap a picture of it and email me? It's not a crisis, since there were four other nicer bikes that weren't taken, but still a drag. I think I'll give my friend my gravel roadster, since it will fit her. I filed a police report, alerted the neighbors, and started locking my gate and shed again. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
My RB-T was one of my favorite bikes. I sold it only to finance a Rivendell. Very fun bike to ride as it has skinny tubes and fits fat tires. Best combo around! If it fits here it sounds like a great price. Watch the reach, as though standover may be okay, she may be pretty stretched out and that isn't comfortable over time. Cheers, David On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Frank Brose fkbr...@gmail.com wrote: If it'll fit buy it. Great bikes. I have one and it's one of the few bikes I own I wouldn't consider selling. They will fit Jack Browns with fenders (that's what I have on mine) which makes for a real nice ride. Not to mention you can throw a rack (I have front and rear) on it and carry stuff. Ihave bikes that cost a helluva lot more that I don't like as much as my RB-T. If I come across another in my size at a decent price I'll buy it as well. Cheers, Frank On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:02:28 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
I think there are several options I know of: Pallisades/SM Mtns are always a crowd-pleaser! I like the San Clemente loop as well, but don't know how anyone else feels about it. Santiago to 4 Corners is a blast. Loch Leven is a really nice ride, but I can't figure out a good way to do it. The approach from town is about two hours of pedaling up a busy highway. Doable as the rewards are there, but not as awesome as I would like :-) Perhaps that could be turned into a bit of a MTB adventure featuring the SART. I ride that on my Rivendell, but it is definitely mountain-bikey with some exposed rocky falls over the side for the unwary.http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4940165060/in/set-72157624713581625Not a beginner ride by any means. That said, I've pulled my kid on a Piccolo through ithttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4939573567/in/set-72157624713581625, so not that bad... H, got me thinking on this one! Cheers, David On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: sorry I missed the ride. I rode it with Rob a few years ago and really liked the Sulfur Mtn section. I couldn't convince my wife to come up with me so I could use the carpool lane. Without that It would probably be 4 hrs coming home on a Sunday afternoon thru LA and OC.. maybe we can do something in the Santa Monica's in May? Or David's Loch Leven ride? ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hey I know this tall fello
I was there! Really nice to meet, and talk with, Amit! Nick On Monday, April 8, 2013 3:24:32 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Checking out flickr I found this guy during the Sac Tweed Ride... http://flic.kr/p/e9HvEp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Spring Camp Saturday, April 27th
$50 bucks doesn't include transport to Riv HQ, does it? Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 8, 2013 1:59:03 PM UTC-6, keven@rivendell wrote: Hello All- We will be hosting a Spring Camp Out this Saturday, April 27th in the Shell Ridge/ Mt. Diablo area. If you'd like to join us, shoot me, Keven, an email (ke...@rivbike.comjavascript:) to let me know. We're limiting the group size to 12 folks. Myself and at least one other Riv employee will join us. You're on your own with food, bikes, gear, etc. but can arrange to borrow a demo bike and even demo camping gear if arranged ahead of time. It's a great opportunity to try out something new! The charge is $50 to cover our camp site, some low-carb snack food, and gets you a $25 Rivendell credit to be used within 30 days. Hope you can join us! -keven -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
The toptube for a 50cm RB-T is 52.5. http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/71.htm On Monday, April 8, 2013 5:29:49 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: My RB-T was one of my favorite bikes. I sold it only to finance a Rivendell. Very fun bike to ride as it has skinny tubes and fits fat tires. Best combo around! If it fits here it sounds like a great price. Watch the reach, as though standover may be okay, she may be pretty stretched out and that isn't comfortable over time. Cheers, David On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Frank Brose fkb...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: If it'll fit buy it. Great bikes. I have one and it's one of the few bikes I own I wouldn't consider selling. They will fit Jack Browns with fenders (that's what I have on mine) which makes for a real nice ride. Not to mention you can throw a rack (I have front and rear) on it and carry stuff. Ihave bikes that cost a helluva lot more that I don't like as much as my RB-T. If I come across another in my size at a decent price I'll buy it as well. Cheers, Frank On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:02:28 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] A Familiar Bombadil on the Bay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Bombadil-60-cm-frameset-with-Chris-King-Headset-and-Shimano-BB-/190822795431 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
Is this the one? http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/3727866366.html On Monday, April 8, 2013 6:34:24 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: The toptube for a 50cm RB-T is 52.5. http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/71.htm On Monday, April 8, 2013 5:29:49 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: My RB-T was one of my favorite bikes. I sold it only to finance a Rivendell. Very fun bike to ride as it has skinny tubes and fits fat tires. Best combo around! If it fits here it sounds like a great price. Watch the reach, as though standover may be okay, she may be pretty stretched out and that isn't comfortable over time. Cheers, David On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Frank Brose fkb...@gmail.com wrote: If it'll fit buy it. Great bikes. I have one and it's one of the few bikes I own I wouldn't consider selling. They will fit Jack Browns with fenders (that's what I have on mine) which makes for a real nice ride. Not to mention you can throw a rack (I have front and rear) on it and carry stuff. Ihave bikes that cost a helluva lot more that I don't like as much as my RB-T. If I come across another in my size at a decent price I'll buy it as well. Cheers, Frank On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:02:28 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Rear rack advice/suggestions
Looking for a nice silver rear rack for my A/R. Something that can take panniers. I was looking at this one at Riv (Nitto Big Back Rack): http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm . Anyone have experience with it? Any other silver racks I should be looking at? -Norman in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
As long as the paint isn't dinged up from locking up all the time (bane of commuters) then it seems like a real good purchase. If it was used in winter, then that's a whole other story. Seattle does get some precipitation I've heard. The 52.5cm TT isn't bad at all for that size. Good to know! Cheers, David On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Is this the one? http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/3727866366.html On Monday, April 8, 2013 6:34:24 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: The toptube for a 50cm RB-T is 52.5. http://sheldonbrown.com/**bridgestone/1994/pages/71.htmhttp://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/71.htm On Monday, April 8, 2013 5:29:49 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: My RB-T was one of my favorite bikes. I sold it only to finance a Rivendell. Very fun bike to ride as it has skinny tubes and fits fat tires. Best combo around! If it fits here it sounds like a great price. Watch the reach, as though standover may be okay, she may be pretty stretched out and that isn't comfortable over time. Cheers, David On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Frank Brose fkb...@gmail.com wrote: If it'll fit buy it. Great bikes. I have one and it's one of the few bikes I own I wouldn't consider selling. They will fit Jack Browns with fenders (that's what I have on mine) which makes for a real nice ride. Not to mention you can throw a rack (I have front and rear) on it and carry stuff. Ihave bikes that cost a helluva lot more that I don't like as much as my RB-T. If I come across another in my size at a decent price I'll buy it as well. Cheers, Frank On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:02:28 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rear rack advice/suggestions
This is the most awesomest rear rack ever!!! I have 3, although only 2 are mounted. If, however, you're looking for something less expensive, I have a brand new, never mounted Tubus Cargo in silver. The difference is that it's painted and has a plastic or something like that coating, as opposed to the cromoly metal finish of the Nitto. I purchased several years ago thinking that it would be just like the Tubus Nova in silver, which is stainless steel, but didn't like it for my Riv bikes and thus never used it. I discovered it while doing clean-up work in my garage, and will be offering it for sale. You cannot go wrong with the Nitto. Remember there are two sizes, IMO, the smaller size is the nicest since it brings the top closer to be under the rear of the saddle. The smaller is intended for 26 650b bikes, but if you have the braze-ons higher on the seat stays like my Hunqapillar does, it will fit. Otherwise, you need the larger one that is intended for 700c bikes. René On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote: Looking for a nice silver rear rack for my A/R. Something that can take panniers. I was looking at this one at Riv (Nitto Big Back Rack): http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm . Anyone have experience with it? Any other silver racks I should be looking at? -Norman in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
the only real difference between the two smallest RBT sizes is the location of the actual top tube. It is pretty subtle, but if you measure up 52/53 on the seat tube on a 50 and then horizontal to the stem they are pretty much the same bike. IMO they are one of the better riding bikes where a 700c was crammed into a little bike. As mentioned the toe clip overlap is horrible, but f you can get passed that, they are great riders. I have one that I work on for a friend that is in the cue for a swap to albatross bars, the longish top tube makes them a decent candidate. Rob On Monday, April 8, 2013 6:57:01 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: As long as the paint isn't dinged up from locking up all the time (bane of commuters) then it seems like a real good purchase. If it was used in winter, then that's a whole other story. Seattle does get some precipitation I've heard. The 52.5cm TT isn't bad at all for that size. Good to know! Cheers, David On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Is this the one? http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/3727866366.html On Monday, April 8, 2013 6:34:24 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: The toptube for a 50cm RB-T is 52.5. http://sheldonbrown.com/**bridgestone/1994/pages/71.htmhttp://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/71.htm On Monday, April 8, 2013 5:29:49 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: My RB-T was one of my favorite bikes. I sold it only to finance a Rivendell. Very fun bike to ride as it has skinny tubes and fits fat tires. Best combo around! If it fits here it sounds like a great price. Watch the reach, as though standover may be okay, she may be pretty stretched out and that isn't comfortable over time. Cheers, David On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Frank Brose fkb...@gmail.com wrote: If it'll fit buy it. Great bikes. I have one and it's one of the few bikes I own I wouldn't consider selling. They will fit Jack Browns with fenders (that's what I have on mine) which makes for a real nice ride. Not to mention you can throw a rack (I have front and rear) on it and carry stuff. Ihave bikes that cost a helluva lot more that I don't like as much as my RB-T. If I come across another in my size at a decent price I'll buy it as well. Cheers, Frank On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:02:28 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: Back story; my girlfriend is feeling motivated to get into something slightly different from the 80s MTB she's been riding for the past couple of years, something with a little more spring in its step. A Rivendell just isn't remotely in the budget, so I've been looking around for Bridgestones, Miyatas, etc. that will fit a short person. There's a nice looking RB-T for sale on CL at $350, but it's one Bridgestone I have no experience with. By the look of it, I'm guessing it could clear Jack Browns and fenders but I don't really know. Any thoughts, experience, or even speculation will be greatly appreciated as always. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rear rack advice/suggestions
Actually, I have the matching set of Tubus Duo in silver with the same finish as the Cargo above. Brand new, never mounted. Will be offering both for sale shortly. Need to get all the stuff I'll be selling organized. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:03 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: This is the most awesomest rear rack ever!!! I have 3, although only 2 are mounted. If, however, you're looking for something less expensive, I have a brand new, never mounted Tubus Cargo in silver. The difference is that it's painted and has a plastic or something like that coating, as opposed to the cromoly metal finish of the Nitto. I purchased several years ago thinking that it would be just like the Tubus Nova in silver, which is stainless steel, but didn't like it for my Riv bikes and thus never used it. I discovered it while doing clean-up work in my garage, and will be offering it for sale. You cannot go wrong with the Nitto. Remember there are two sizes, IMO, the smaller size is the nicest since it brings the top closer to be under the rear of the saddle. The smaller is intended for 26 650b bikes, but if you have the braze-ons higher on the seat stays like my Hunqapillar does, it will fit. Otherwise, you need the larger one that is intended for 700c bikes. René On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote: Looking for a nice silver rear rack for my A/R. Something that can take panniers. I was looking at this one at Riv (Nitto Big Back Rack): http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm . Anyone have experience with it? Any other silver racks I should be looking at? -Norman in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions
Bruce Gordon (he makes them to order, so I reckon you can get whatever color you want) or Tubus. I bought the big Nitto and wound up selling after only briefly installing it on my new tourer. Heavy and overbuilt compared to Gordon and Tubus entries. The finish as with all Nitto products sure looks nice. On Monday, April 8, 2013 8:46:11 PM UTC-5, Norman Bone wrote: Looking for a nice silver rear rack for my A/R. Something that can take panniers. I was looking at this one at Riv (Nitto Big Back Rack): http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm . Anyone have experience with it? Any other silver racks I should be looking at? -Norman in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: More Diamonds and Midged Hunqapillar
Nice job! I might have to try the Midge bars too! On Monday, April 8, 2013 1:29:51 AM UTC-6, stonehog wrote: In the never ending quest to always change a good thing, I replaced the Noodles on the Hunqa (still going strong on the Hilsen - won't take em off that one) with Midge bars. They fit the dirt dynamic of the Mammoth bike better. I still had to diamond 'em up, tho: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEDaGcN Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!
Is the Rambouillet blue the same as the A. Homer Hilsen blue? I discovered RBW after the Ram was long gone and I've always loved the brighter A.H.H. blue but lately I've seen several Ram's online and the blue on them is just breath-taking! On Saturday, April 6, 2013 9:43:57 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613# I've added a Fly rack and a small seat wedge for basic kit, but otherwise, as you see it. The wheels are loaners, hope to get my own shortly. Pro 5 Vis 44/30 pulling 14-15-16-17-18-20-23 7 speed cassette by 7400 series derailleurs, with old Dura Ace SPD pedals and 7 speed Dura Ace dt shifters -- indexed! First indexed drivetrain I've owned since, what, 1993. Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks are light and roll quite well despite the armored tread -- would love to get some very nice Compass Bike tires. 9 cm Nitto stem with 42 cm Noodles: I've got the bar a bit higher than on the other Rivs, but also 1 cm further out -- serendipity, but the original setup seems to be a keeper. Shimano levers pulling (for now): front: Nashbar, rear: Shimano A550. Nitto Jaguar post (thanks again, Tom!), original issue Flite, used but good tape, Fly rack. That's all you need! I think this will take over grocery runs from the Fargo, which will go back to off road duty. Thanks to Tim Whalen, sometime of this list, for a good price and very easy terms! -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 64 cm Atlantis - custom blue
That seems like a really fair price to me, you're just in rarified air -
we're an odd lot! You might consider a cross-post to the SF bay area
craigslist (if such a thing is allowed).
On Monday, April 8, 2013 2:16:49 PM UTC-7, drewjensen wrote:
Jim, I remember reading about your Atlantis years ago on your blog (if I'm
remembering correctly) and it was an inspiration to me to buy it in the
first place - so thanks for that.
It's been a great bike - it's kind of the generalist of the bike world,
no? Can do almost anything at least competently. It always seemed,
though, like where it would really excel would be in distance cycling -
Brevets and whatnot - packing stuff to go with you..and that was just never
me. I just had more fun when I could take it off road a bit. The part of
cycling I always enjoy the most is when I'm off road somewhere and I feel
like I'm part of nature. It makes me feel like a kid again. And the
Atlantis can do some of that, it's just not it's forte in my opinion.
Anyway, I think the Ogre will work out fine. Haven't sold the Atlantis
yet. It turns out my CL ad wasn't hitting the Boulder index so had to
repost on Sunday. I've had a few hits but nothing serious yet.
In the group's experience is this price going to work or will I need to
drop it?
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
I owned an Atlantis for several years, and I own an Ogre now. I will be a
bit of a contrarian by agreeing with your decision to swap the Atlantis for
the Ogre. Aside from traditional geometry and lugs and the Rivendell
mystique, the Ogre has all the good stuff the Atlantis has, and then some.
Loads of tire clearance, more brake options, Rohloff option, numerous rack
options, trailer hitch option, easily single-speeded, tough, not as much
regret (or as hard to replace) if it gets damaged, etc.
On Sunday, April 7, 2013 8:23:45 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
That makes sense, Drew. The consideration that with the Atlantis you can
then easily switch back to an all-rounder at little to no cost down the
road is worth including in the calculation. Yes, it costs a few hundred now
(less if you can buy used components via a WTB post here), but the long
term costs of the switch may be harder to see, especially for your wife.
WIll you want to do a tour in the years to come? Some road/dirt rides?
Living in Boulder, there are some amazing rides to Estes Park that offer
great camping etc that an all-round Atlantis is built for. Whatever you
decide, have a blast!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, April 6, 2013 10:11:30 PM UTC-6, drewjensen wrote:
Believe me that I never envisioned selling it when I bought it. It did
occur to me that I could retrofit the Atlantis to do more tough stuff
riding. I started putting a list of all of the parts to really do it
right
and it was going to be a few hundred dollars - and I started pitching it
to
my wife and she couldn't get past the idea that I just had the wrong tool
for the job. If I wanted to be riding on trails then I should stop trying
to make the Atlantis fit if another bike might do better. Plus, a few
hundred dollars that we really don't have versus a revenue-neutral switch
to a mountain bike (hopefully).
Anyway, it's an emotional decision having to part with this bike, but
if you take the emotion out of it I think (hope) that it's the wise move.
I guess we'll see.
On Saturday, April 6, 2013 3:55:13 AM UTC-6, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Hi Drew!
That is a sweet looking Atlantis! I'm going to second Tony's
recommendation to try a set of fat knobby-type tires before parting with
that bike. I've extensively used my Atlantis with Schwalbe Marathon XRs
(700x40) on the trails and primitive roads on the Navajo Rez in the four
corners area of Arizona and the riding is very similar to the trails in
the
Front Range area. The Atlantis is a great off-road bike with the right
tires. Oh, and with the 700x40 XRs, there still miles of space, so easy
enough to go much fatter.
Good Luck!
lyle
On 5 April 2013 12:01, Tonester tony@gmail.com wrote:
Hey there!
I'm a fellow custom color Atlantis owner (red!) and totally get
your dilemma - fortunately I'm able to maintain a stable of bikes so the
temptation to sell the Atlantis doesn't come up. I fed my jones for a
29'er disc brake bike with a Civilian Luddite and love it, but not to
the
extent of choosing it over the Riv. Have you tried super-fat semi-knobs
on
the Atlantis? Looks like the Ogre will handle up to a 2.5 tire , and
I've
seen Atlantii with 50mm slicks which is nearly 2. I'd whip a set of
knobbies on the Atlantis and give it a go before giving it up. I think
that yellow all-rounder that hit the list recently is one of the coolest
bikes I've ever seen.
Best of luck in any event!
Tony
[RBW] Re: ISO: single brake caliper, Shimano A550 or similar
I've got a single Riv silver if you're interested, though it's missing brake pads? On Saturday, April 6, 2013 2:30:52 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: An alternative to a 600 would be a Shimano A550 dual pivot, preferably rear tho' a front would work too. I just discovered that my single (front) A550 works in the back of the Ram. Perhaps I measured those Nashbars wrong and they are a couple of mm short? See attached. Though I'd prefer a match, I just need something that looks much the same. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How I made a quick release basket that can be installed and removed in seconds, or even one handed.
That's a great design. Maybe I will buy a front or rear wire rack now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Singe TT Sams on Riv Site
Thanks. I'm looking for a single TT 60cm in orange. Has anyone seen one hanging in a shop somewhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hey I know this tall fello
Nice Hunqa-Bomba! On Monday, April 8, 2013 4:24:32 PM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote: Checking out flickr I found this guy during the Sac Tweed Ride... http://flic.kr/p/e9HvEp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
