Re: [RBW] On the Road Today

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Yep.  L'il Loafer on the Nitto Mini Front rack. 

- J

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:08:38 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote:
>
> is that a lil loafer?  it looks really big in that picture

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[RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Well, there are definitely a few variables in that equation... 

Let's work backward a bit - 

Shimmy should show up at specific speeds.  Or under specific speeds and 
weight distributions.  There are a number of things which tend to amplify 
this, and there have been long threads here and on the iBob list about the 
general topic of shimmy.  Anyone new to the general topic can get some info 
here - http://sheldonbrown.com/brandt/shimmy.html

Jan H also has a good video of the condition here - 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8pzc2aYVFEg

>From your post, you say you never got shimmy before, but then also say it 
"almost never happened" with the original setup - so, it sounds like you 
did get shimmy before, and now it happens much more frequently.  Is that 
the case?

I'd actually just swap back your old front wheel to start with, and see 
what that does.   There could be some hesitation in that hub which is 
exacerbating things.  

I'd also remove the saddlebag and see what that does.  One variable at a 
time!

I don't know if going from 35 Panaracers to 33.3 JB's would do it, but I'd 
consider the possibility of tire pressure being a variable as well.  I'd 
also try to get a fix on the speed at which it occurs.  

best of luck in tracking down the issues.

- J

Jim Edgar / cyclofiend.com 



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[RBW] Yet another post on shimmy

[john]

Hello All. 

I thought I'd get some ideas on a recent shimmy development. Here is the 
scenario:

Rider specs:
John
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 150 soaking wet
PBH: 88.9
SH: apprx 78.5 cm

I ride a 60 cm. Sam HIll. 

I Never experienced shimmy with the stock build:  Shimano deore front and 
rear hubs, Velocity synergy wheels, (35 cm panaracer pasella tires), noodle 
handlebars, SKS Longboard fenders, etc.
I ride with a nitto mini front rack,  nitro rear rack (the one for 
saddlebag support, not panniers). I ride with a Baggins "Adam" saddlebag. 
No front bag as yet because I haven't found one to fit the distance between 
the front rack and handlebars (I'm not particularly interested in buying a 
nitro F-15 rack, but instead covet a Berthoud rando bag - yet I don't know 
if the 28cm size  will fill the gap. )

Nothing unusual for a Rivendell.

Now, for the recent developments:
Swapped the old wheel (Velocity Synergy) for a newly built Velocity Synergy 
with dynohub (Shimano Alfine). Have a lightweight B&M Cyo light attatched 
to the right (rider's right while riding) of the rack. Switched from 35cm 
Panaracers to 33.3 Jack Brown Greens. Got the JBs to fit under Hono 
 because I had issues with the Longboards on two different sets: (rubbing, 
chattering, due to inherent fleibility) . I also shortened the stem just a 
hair, to see if doing so would help alleviate some forearm discomfort I'd 
been having. (The old setup was stem height equidistant to saddle height.) 
 Now the stem height is slightly below saddle height. That's it.


Now: experiencing some shimmy (and less overall feeling of stability) while 
riding no hands sitting upright. This does not occur all the time, but it's 
noticeable. The "response" doesn't happen all the time, but still, it's 
there, and unnerving when it does. 

This "response" almost never happened with my old, original setup. 
Frustrating! Because I much prefer dyno lighting for any number of reasons, 
and wanted to run narrower tires to better fit underneath Honjo fenders, 
which I much prefer to Longboards. My "upgrades" were plenty expensive, 
too! And a pain in the neck, and time away from the bike. Still, I want 
what I want: the best Riv ride possible. Is there an inherent compromise 
here? Am I missing something? And if it is the new developments, where is 
the problem? Stem height? Wheel weight? Tire width?

Any comments? Clues? Suggestions? I'll continue to ride and see how it 
goes, but honestly, as much as I like the changes I've made (except for the 
need to run thinner tires with is not optimal for me), I'd go back to the 
original set up if it meant the end to shimmy. I do not like to shimmy! 

Yes, obviously I will start with the easy stuff first. As in, I'll raise 
the stem and see what happens (or doesn't). After that, I'm frustrated. 
Very frustrated.

Suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

[samh]

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:20:20 AM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
>
>  point (or get through spam filters). I have a hunch that a phone call to 
> Ortlieb/Tubus USA would have the desired result. I talk to those people all 
> the time. They're really helpful.
>

I've also had less than stellar experiences with Tubus customer service. 
 My Cosmo rear rack has plugs in the ends of the tubes and caps over the 
ends of the extender struts.  One cap and one plug fell off why I was 
touring.  I've been trying to get replacements from Tubus for 3 years. 
 They always tell me they are out of stock.

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[RBW] Re: Brake clearance issue on '97 Rivendell Road

[Ed S]

Jeremy,
Thanks for the info. I thought before that it was the brakes that limit the 
choice of wider tires. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

[Peter Morgano]

A wise man once said "I can take a crap in a box and mark it guaranteed,
but at then end of the day all you have is a guaranteed piece of crap"


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 11:52 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Don't put too much faith in warranties.  A "limited warranty" is written
> to protect the issuer (company, dealer, etc) by limiting liability to
> certain specific situations or issues.  It is NOT intended to protect the
> customer or consumer of the product, but rather to limit the extent of
> claims.  "Lifetime warranty" usually covers the reasonable expected
> lifetime of the product for its intended purpose, not the lifetime of the
> customer.  A 30 year warranty on anything, except maybe a rock, ain't gonna
> happen.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:49:05 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> How do we know this to be true? I'm not being snarky, I want to know, as
>> one who loves Tubuses and has used many but who would seriously consider
>> Nittos for a "pretty bike" if he had the money and found the right design.
>>
>> BTW: I read both that Tubus offers a 10 year warranty and that Tubus
>> offers a 30 year warranty. Which izzit? And, just for the record, cheap ol'
>> Axiom offers a *lifetime* warranty to the original owner. I suppose if we
>> were truly rational in our own self interest, those abstract beings beloved
>> of the economists (idiots), we'd all be using Axioms.
>>
>> I have nothing against Nitto.  They are nice racks.  But off the shelf
>>> the Tubus are head and shoulders above.
>>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: 61 cm Romulus on SF CL

[Joe K]

Sounds lovely, and pretty much my size.  I remember test-riding a Romulus 
at Rivendell World HQ when they were in their lineup.  I really felt good 
on that bike.

Don't really need it though...

Joe

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:23:51 AM UTC-4, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>  http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3744149782.html
>
> No connection; thank goodness it isn't the right size for me.
>

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[RBW] Re: Campy Only!: Solo 200K to the Napa Valley 4-20-13

[dougP]

"Henry Haus" sounds like a cool name for a bikeI wonder who would use 
it?  Maybe someone who makes something, I dunno, country-ish?  Just a 
thought.

dougP

On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:12:04 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> The Riv Road got to go out and play today:
>
>
> http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2013/04/solo-200k-to-napa-valley-4-20-13.html
>  
>
> --Eric
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> Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @campyonlyguy
>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[cyclotourist]

You notice that we never see The Dude and the Lone Wolf at the same time.
Bet you never thought about that, have you...

Cheers,
David



On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Bryan  wrote:

> I didn't see the Dude, but I did see the Lone Wolf (sorry - I didn't get a
> photo of the Lone Wolf. He got away from me too fast.)
>
> My wife and I hauled some kids to downtown and back. We had a great time.
> The weather was perfect, and it was great to see Angelenos away from their
> cars and caring about their city. I spotted a couple of Rivs - a two-tuber
> green Hillborne and a Redwood (!).
>
> Here are some photos:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwedgar/sets/72157633296582845/with/8670776396/
>
> Bryan
>
> p.s. Sorry about the typo in the title to my original post!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

[dougP]

Don't put too much faith in warranties.  A "limited warranty" is written to 
protect the issuer (company, dealer, etc) by limiting liability to certain 
specific situations or issues.  It is NOT intended to protect the customer 
or consumer of the product, but rather to limit the extent of claims.  
"Lifetime warranty" usually covers the reasonable expected lifetime of the 
product for its intended purpose, not the lifetime of the customer.  A 30 
year warranty on anything, except maybe a rock, ain't gonna happen.  

dougP

On Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:49:05 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> How do we know this to be true? I'm not being snarky, I want to know, as 
> one who loves Tubuses and has used many but who would seriously consider 
> Nittos for a "pretty bike" if he had the money and found the right design.
>
> BTW: I read both that Tubus offers a 10 year warranty and that Tubus 
> offers a 30 year warranty. Which izzit? And, just for the record, cheap ol' 
> Axiom offers a *lifetime* warranty to the original owner. I suppose if we 
> were truly rational in our own self interest, those abstract beings beloved 
> of the economists (idiots), we'd all be using Axioms.
>
> I have nothing against Nitto.  They are nice racks.  But off the shelf the 
>> Tubus are head and shoulders above. 
>>
>  
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[Bryan]

I didn't see the Dude, but I did see the Lone Wolf (sorry - I didn't get a 
photo of the Lone Wolf. He got away from me too fast.)

My wife and I hauled some kids to downtown and back. We had a great time. 
The weather was perfect, and it was great to see Angelenos away from their 
cars and caring about their city. I spotted a couple of Rivs - a two-tuber 
green Hillborne and a Redwood (!). 

Here are some 
photos: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwedgar/sets/72157633296582845/with/8670776396/

Bryan 

p.s. Sorry about the typo in the title to my original post!

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[RBW] Re: speaking of the blug... new Atlas rim

[Kelly]

They are polished and look silver... Actually they look like the Velo-Orange 
Raid and Diaganal, yet appear to be thicker than the Diaganal.

Anyway..look silver to me :). 

Kelly

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[cyclotourist]

He even had the plastic shoes. Attention to detail!


I didn't notice high drops, but the VAST majority of riders had uprights of
some sort.

Cheers,
David



On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:40 PM, James Warren wrote:

> I like your style, Dude.
>
> Also, I think Grant gets credit for high drop bars. I saw a lot of those
> too.
>
> Also saw a few albatrosses on older bikes with bar-end shifters added.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:17 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> I think it has 650B wheels, so presumed Bleriot although Hilsens come with
> those also (didn't think about that). I will gladly defer to the majority
> view :-)
>
> CycLAvia was great! 79F when we started, 81F at the end. Met up with Jim W
> for a bit at the secret coffee spot in Venice. Other than J's Atlantis, no
> other Rivs, but lots of Brooks saddles in use. Some credit for that has to
> go to Grant! Gazillions of people out and about today, good times on
> bikes!!!
>
> And saw The 
> Dude.
>
> Some pix to entertain and enlighten:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157633296759685/with/8669713261/
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Michael  wrote:
>
>> I am guessing Hilsen also. Lugs look like it and the AHH of the Hilsen
>>> badge gives it that shaded eiffel tower look that seems to be seeable in
>>> the pic.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[James Warren]

I like your style, Dude. 

Also, I think Grant gets credit for high drop bars. I saw a lot of those too.

Also saw a few albatrosses on older bikes with bar-end shifters added.


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:17 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:

> I think it has 650B wheels, so presumed Bleriot although Hilsens come with 
> those also (didn't think about that). I will gladly defer to the majority 
> view :-)
> 
> CycLAvia was great! 79F when we started, 81F at the end. Met up with Jim W 
> for a bit at the secret coffee spot in Venice. Other than J's Atlantis, no 
> other Rivs, but lots of Brooks saddles in use. Some credit for that has to go 
> to Grant! Gazillions of people out and about today, good times on bikes!!!
> 
> And saw The Dude.
> 
> Some pix to entertain and enlighten:  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157633296759685/with/8669713261/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Michael  wrote:
> I am guessing Hilsen also. Lugs look like it and the AHH of the Hilsen badge 
> gives it that shaded eiffel tower look that seems to be seeable in the pic.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

[Kelly]

With fully loaded touring the weight difference is insignificant.  The wider 
Nitto has advantages when mounting bags or strapping other supplies on the rear 
rack between panniers.  Nitto is also easier to mount Arkel at least panniers 
on.
The Tubus protects the rear light better, allows for lower mounting of the 
panniers.  I was unable to notice a difference in ride quality.   

Currently my wife has Tubus front and rear and I am running Nitto rear, Tubus 
low rider front and both of us have Nitto mini fronts.

Both are great racks and have delivered many weeks of on the road service 
without issue.

I trust them both

Kelly

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[cyclotourist]

I think it has 650B wheels, so presumed Bleriot although Hilsens come with
those also (didn't think about that). I will gladly defer to the majority
view :-)

CycLAvia was great! 79F when we started, 81F at the end. Met up with Jim W
for a bit at the secret coffee spot in Venice. Other than J's Atlantis, no
other Rivs, but lots of Brooks saddles in use. Some credit for that has to
go to Grant! Gazillions of people out and about today, good times on
bikes!!!

And saw The 
Dude.

Some pix to entertain and enlighten:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157633296759685/with/8669713261/





Cheers,
David



On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Michael  wrote:

> I am guessing Hilsen also. Lugs look like it and the AHH of the Hilsen
>> badge gives it that shaded eiffel tower look that seems to be seeable in
>> the pic.
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[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

[Kelly]

I just started using the Large Arkel handlebar bag.I love it.  Great 
mounting system that will work with noodles, mustache, and albatross bars. 
  It's large enough for my DSLR and a moderate zoom lens.   Stable and easy 
on and off. 

Kelly

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603112291/in/set-72157625432975212



On Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:24:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I'm currently using an xs saddlebag as my handlebar bag, but would love 
> something a wee bit bigger with an easy access map pocket (I have the map 
> case Riv. sells, so that's covered). I've been eyeing Acorn's handlebar 
> bags (small and regular), but am unsure how well the anti-sway straps will 
> mount to Albatross bars. Any input or other bag recommendations 
> appreciated. I would rather avoid adding a front rack or full handlebar 
> rack/bag. Thanks!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>  
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[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

[Deacon Patrick]

Pics would be much appreciated, Tom. Thanks.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:01:08 PM UTC-6, Tom Harrop wrote:
>
> I use a Carradice Barley saddlebag as a handlebar bag on my albatross 
> bars. Two buckles on the bars and one on the quill. It is very secure and 
> no swaying that I have noticed, but a cable hanger for cantis would get in 
> the way (I use v-brakes). I can take a photo tomorrow if you like?
>
> You can't get at the contents while riding but that is not an issue for me.
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[Michael]

>
> I am guessing Hilsen also. Lugs look like it and the AHH of the Hilsen 
> badge gives it that shaded eiffel tower look that seems to be seeable in 
> the pic.
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[Michael Williams]

Id say a Hilsen,  maybe a Hillborne,   looks like it has mid fork eyelets


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Bryan  wrote:

> In a story about today's CicLAvia event, the LA Times is running a photo
> from last year, and it sure looks like a Riv on the far right of the photo.
> Maybe a Hilsen? Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/d9haczx
>
> By the way, anyone riding CicLAvia today?
>
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Re: [RBW] On the Road Today

[Minh]

is that a lil loafer?  it looks really big in that picture

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[RBW] Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

[Tom Harrop]

I use a Carradice Barley saddlebag as a handlebar bag on my albatross bars. Two 
buckles on the bars and one on the quill. It is very secure and no swaying that 
I have noticed, but a cable hanger for cantis would get in the way (I use 
v-brakes). I can take a photo tomorrow if you like?

You can't get at the contents while riding but that is not an issue for me.

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[RBW] Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

[NWAJack]

Love my Acorn, but I have noodles.  The green acorn is almost the exact same 
green as my sackville saddlebag too.

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I recall that the business relationship between Riv and Waterford apparently 
broke down because so many of Riv's frame orders had deviations from the stock 
spec. 

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RE: [RBW] Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Patrick:

Not sure if these would qualify as a "full handlebar rack/bag" of the kind you 
want to avoid, but these Klik-Fix handlebar bags from Berthoud work extremely 
well on Albas; very solid, zero sway..

Berthoud 805 Bag: 
http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-402/Berthoud-805-Handlebar-bag/Detail
On bike:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8654050962/in/set-72157624427413755

Berthoud 905 Bag:  
http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-335/Berthoud-905-Handlebar-bag/Detail
On bike:  
http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-335/Berthoud-905-Handlebar-bag/Detail 
and 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7107681555/in/set-72157624427413755/

Here's the mount without a bag on it:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4815790104/in/set-72157624427413755/

Both bags are 2 seconds to take off or put on the bike, and have shoulder 
straps - most convenient bags I've ever encountered for taking with you when 
you lock the bike.

Tom


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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joan Oppel
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

I have the Brand V bar bag.  On Noodles.  But it is beautifully made, easily 
accessible while riding and holds a lot of stuff.  Camera (older Canon 
point&shoot so slightly bulky), snacks, cellphone, rolled up light jacket, 
tube.  It has a double ended zipper, that's easy to grasp.  The two brass rings 
on each end can be used for extra stability if one wants (not needed but 
personal preference).  If on tour, I attach a short velcro strap to each brass 
ring and then stretch that to my brake lever/handlebar.  I'm impressed with 
this bag, and 3 friends have purchased their own in the few months after seeing 
mine.

This might be the best current picture of it though not great, if you look 
closely at the brake lever, you can barely see the small velcro strap, it sits 
flat and I never know it's there:   
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/8652002735/in/photostream/

Joan

On 04/20/13, Deacon Patrickmailto:lamontg...@mac.com>> 
wrote:

I'm currently using an xs saddlebag as my handlebar bag, but would love 
something a wee bit bigger with an easy access map pocket (I have the map case 
Riv. sells, so that's covered). I've been eyeing Acorn's handlebar bags (small 
and regular), but am unsure how well the anti-sway straps will mount to 
Albatross bars. Any input or other bag recommendations appreciated. I would 
rather avoid adding a front rack or full handlebar rack/bag. Thanks!

With abandon,
Patrick

www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
www.OurHolyConception.org

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

[Philip Williamson]

I use a saddlebag on the bars, with the seat post strap around the canti hanger 
and headset. It works. You might also hard-mount a bag of some kind to your 
bars, using a handlebar mount for a bottle cage. 
http://problemsolversbike.com/blog/comments/convert_a_seat_bag_to_handlebar_bag_in_10_minutes
(I bought the bag in a pre-hacked condition - now I need to make another one)

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

[Philip Williamson]

I use a saddlebag on the bars, with the seat post strap around the canti hanger 
and headset. It works. You might also hard-mount a bag of some kind to your 
bars, using a handlebar mount for a bottle cage. 
http://problemsolversbike.com/blog/comments/convert_a_seat_bag_to_handlebar_bag_in_10_minutes
(I bought the bag in a pre-hacked condition - now I need to make another one)

Philip
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[Mike Schiller]

I'm with Jim, I think it's a Homer, when I enlarge the photo I can see the 
curved headtube lugs that are on later Riv's.  Rams and Bleriots 
had symmetrical lugs.

~mike


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Re: [RBW] Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[Bruce Herbitter]

The RBW built blue Rams came standard with interrupter brake handles as
shown in the picture. So that's my vote.


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Bryan  wrote:

> In a story about today's CicLAvia event, the LA Times is running a photo
> from last year, and it sure looks like a Riv on the far right of the photo.
> Maybe a Hilsen? Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/d9haczx
>
> By the way, anyone riding CicLAvia today?
>
> Bryan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Campy Only!: Solo 200K to the Napa Valley 4-20-13

[Eric Norris]

Lots of practice riding solo, the result of watching the pack pull away from me 
in the early miles ...

--Eric
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On Apr 20, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Manuel Acosta  
wrote:

> Eric,
> I have yet to master the solo LONG ride. You seem to do it with the time and 
> patience. My hat is off to you good sir. 
> -Manny
> 
> On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:12:04 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
> The Riv Road got to go out and play today:
> 
> http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2013/04/solo-200k-to-napa-valley-4-20-13.html
>  
> 
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[RBW] Re: Understanding Silver Shifters video

[frank_a]

I lost one and cut down the spring from a ballpoint pen. It is slightly larger 
in diameter but it works fine. I put it in the left side (front shifter) as 
that gets used much less, on my bikes anyway.
- Frank

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

[Mike Schiller]

not that I know either of them but ... for your info blasdelf and 
Haulincolin are not the same person. He does own one of Colin's racks 
though.  

~mike

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:26:57 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>
> I am not an engineer (nor am I all that good at searching discussion 
> forums) but the guy who posts in the Velocipedesalon as blasdelf and makes 
> custom racks under the Haulin Colin name: 
> http://www.haulincolin.com/porteur.html wrote a very good discourse on 
> why Tubus makes the best production touring racks.
>
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Re: [RBW] On the Road Today

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Thanks for the kind words.  ;^)

As far as the warpage on the spokes, I have a sparodically updated set of 
such images here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157594238072282

- J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

[samh]

Another data point.  I did a long tour with Tubus Cosmo/Nova racks and 
Ortlieb panniers(Bikepacker Plus/Sportpacker Plus), and I had no problems. 
 After I got home, I was riding my bike with the racks still on it, and I 
took a shortcut up on the sidewalk, As I was rounding a sharp corner I 
reached down to ring my new bell to warn any pedestrians, and I ended up 
riding off the curb (into oncoming traffic).  I leaned my bike heavily 
trying to avoid going off the curb, and as such when I went off the curb, I 
fell over onto the curb.  Luckily, the racks and my body saved the bike 
from any damage.  The rear Cosmo rack was slightly bent, but not broken or 
cracked.

On Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:05:47 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Mike Schiller 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> The Nitto racks are stronger 
>
>
> Again and again, I am not trying to be annoying. Can you give the 
> particulars of the evidence that show that Nitto racks are stronger than 
> Tubus racks? 
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Re: [RBW] On the Road Today

[James Warren]

For me, aesthetically speaking, this photo is close to Rivendell perfection. 
The matching color headtube is a part of that too, adds to the subtlety of the 
beauty. I love the QB lugs. Even the name of the bike, as photographed, has the 
subtlety in its Tolkein reference.  Meanwhile the handlebar setup, while not 
extreme, reminds you, "easy for you to go low with bar height, moderate with 
the bar height, or high if you were to want to, even adjustable during the 
ride, simple, with Nitto beauty along for the ride. All points made here are 
subjective, no preaching intended, especially about the no-cream headtube.  :  )

Great photo, great-looking ride. I'm itching for summer up there now! OK enough 
Sunday computer, gotta get out!



On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:45 AM, René Sterental wrote:

> Great viewpoint on that photo. 
> 
> On Saturday, April 20, 2013, jeffrey kane wrote:
> Been there, only twice in my life, thankfully, both times on a bicycle. You 
> northern CA cats sure have some good riding right outside your doors 
> 
> On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:04:39 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
> Managed a decent loop today out to the coast and back.  Reached down and 
> snapped this one as I rolled north on Hwy 1 towards Pt. Reyes Station.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/8665732161/in/photostream
> 
> Grand day out. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[Bryan]

I think I'm going to ride from Culver City to downtown and back. I'll have 
a couple of kids in a trailer. Have fun!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

[Matthew J]

About to hit the road right now and just realized I need to provide one detail 
to keep my posts in context - except for the Bruce Gordon that had his racks, 
my touring bikes have 126 spacing.  Nitto width may make more sense on a 135 or 
tandem.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[James Warren]

Now that I know about it, I'm thinking of steering myself to Venice. It's about 
a 90 minute ride for me. I was gonna get the bike together anyway, but now 
there is a bit more urgency. Coffee drunk, now to the tire change.


On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:39 AM, hsmitham wrote:

> Hi Bryan, yep I'll be riding with about 4 others from DT to Venice for Lunch. 
> 
> Hugh
> Sunland, CA
> 
> On Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:19:05 AM UTC-7, Bryan wrote:
> In a story about today's CicLAvia event, the LA Times is running a photo from 
> last year, and it sure looks like a Riv on the far right of the photo. Maybe 
> a Hilsen? Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/d9haczx
> 
> By the way, anyone riding CicLAvia today? 
> 
> Bryan 
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Re: [RBW] On the Road Today

[René Sterental]

Great viewpoint on that photo.

On Saturday, April 20, 2013, jeffrey kane wrote:

> Been there, only twice in my life, thankfully, both times on a bicycle.
> You northern CA cats sure have some good riding right outside your doors
> 
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:04:39 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>
>> Managed a decent loop today out to the coast and back.  Reached down and
>> snapped this one as I rolled north on Hwy 1 towards Pt. Reyes Station.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclofiend/8665732161/in/**photostream
>>
>> Grand day out.
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[RBW] Re: Understanding Silver Shifters video

[Michael]

I haven't lost mine yet. Hopefully never will. I guess you can't lose them 
unless you take the metal cover off. But it would be good to have a spare just 
in case.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[hsmitham]

Hi Bryan, yep I'll be riding with about 4 others from DT to Venice for 
Lunch. 

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:19:05 AM UTC-7, Bryan wrote:
>
> In a story about today's CicLAvia event, the LA Times is running a photo 
> from last year, and it sure looks like a Riv on the far right of the photo. 
> Maybe a Hilsen? Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/d9haczx
>
> By the way, anyone riding CicLAvia today? 
>
> Bryan 
>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[James Warren]

I'm voting Hilsen. Headbadge sort of comes through from a distance.


On Apr 21, 2013, at 7:27 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

> Good catch Brian! I'd say a Bleriot, but am not looking at it in a big screen.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Bryan  wrote:
> In a story about today's CicLAvia event, the LA Times is running a photo from 
> last year, and it sure looks like a Riv on the far right of the photo. Maybe 
> a Hilsen? Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/d9haczx
> 
> By the way, anyone riding CicLAvia today? 
> 
> Bryan 
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[cyclotourist]

Good catch Brian! I'd say a Bleriot, but am not looking at it in a big
screen.

Cheers,
David



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> In a story about today's CicLAvia event, the LA Times is running a photo
> from last year, and it sure looks like a Riv on the far right of the photo.
> Maybe a Hilsen? Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/d9haczx
>
> By the way, anyone riding CicLAvia today?
>
> Bryan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

[Matthew J]

I am not an engineer (nor am I all that good at searching discussion 
forums) but the guy who posts in the Velocipedesalon as blasdelf and makes 
custom racks under the Haulin Colin 
name: http://www.haulincolin.com/porteur.html wrote a very good discourse 
on why Tubus makes the best production touring racks.

His point, and a point I have read elsewhere and that comports with my own 
experience is the cohesive design of the rack.  Unlike the big Nitto racks 
which use struts to support the joined pieces, every angle and weld on the 
Tubus are planned for its overall purpose which is to attach firmly to the 
bike and allow panniers to attach firmly to the rack.  The Nitto racks are 
also quite wide compared to the Tubus.  

Nitto are good racks.  They are certainly very attractive.  From a touring 
(and by that I mean long distance frequent rough road touring not a four 
day weekend jaunt in the Lake District) perspective, however, looks do not 
make as much difference as weight and simplicity.  The Tubus is lighter and 
a less complicated design.

Slightly off topic, I see someone mentions the Velo Orange above.  True, 
stainless steel keeps its good looks longer than powder coated chro-molly. 
 But stainless steel is not as strong and weighs more.  The Velo Orange 
rear racks do not accommodate large panniers well.  It is also difficult to 
hook Arkel style pannier mounts on the VO racks.

On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:04:02 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Matthew J 
> > wrote:
>
>> I've had and used both.  Obviously it is my opinion, although I would 
>> point out an opinion shared by others in the on line and bike shop world.
>
>
> You are saying that you and others -- I assume more than one or two -- in 
> the bike business believe that Tubus racks are "head and shoulders above" 
> Nitto racks?
>
> Again, I don't understand. Why do you (plural) believe this? What about 
> Tubus racks makes them so much better? You speak of design. Are the Nitto 
> designs so much inferior that they fall a head-length below Tubus racks?
>
> Once again, I am not trying to pick a fight, I am simply looking for 
> evidence. *What is this evidence?* 
>
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[RBW] Rivendell is CicLAvia photo in today's LA Times?

[Bryan]

In a story about today's CicLAvia event, the LA Times is running a photo 
from last year, and it sure looks like a Riv on the far right of the photo. 
Maybe a Hilsen? Take a look: http://tinyurl.com/d9haczx

By the way, anyone riding CicLAvia today? 

Bryan 

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[RBW] Re: speaking of the blug... new Atlas rim

[rperks]

Also, not MUSA or silver, but a bit lighter on the scale if you trust the 
quoted data,
http://www.sun-ringle.com/product-vault/road-rims/rhyno-lite-700c-29er/
Rob

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:48:17 AM UTC-7, rperks wrote:
>
> for the budget conscious there are options:
> http://velocity-dev.com/index.php/product/rims/nobs-700c
>
> and weight be damned:
> http://velocity-dev.com/index.php/product/rims/cliff-hanger-622
>
> I like the new site, not sure how and why I keep ending up at the old 
> velocity USA pages, doh.
>
> Rob
> Ventura, Ca
>
> On Friday, April 19, 2013 9:21:23 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> > What's so special about these rims to justify a price over $100 ??? 
>>  
>> Wide, likely strong, good looking, MUSA.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

[René Sterental]

Usually there ar so many cables in the area of the stem, that anchoring a
bag there is difficult.

René

On Sunday, April 21, 2013, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> Thank you, Nick, Mannie, and Rob. Yes, Rob, sway is a big issue for my
> noggin, as it introduces a lot of interference to clear proprioception
> through the handlebars. The good news is I don't need to reach anything
> while riding because two hands on the bar are what I need anyway. What I
> can't figure out is why more handlebar bags don't just anchor around the
> stem like a saddlebag anchors around the seatpost. No sway.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:43:50 AM UTC-6, rperks wrote:
>>
>> Patrick,
>> It is a serious challenge to get a bag with easy access, little sway, and
>> hang it from the Alba bars.  The forward reaching sections which are part
>> of what make the bare great IMO really squash the dream here.  That is why
>> most of bikes you see with them end up with a small rack and or basket if
>> you want your stuff up front.  The little acorn or older candybar style
>> bags are you best bets, but they are not easy to get into while on the bike
>> like a true rando or hobo style bag.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/8587814544/
>>
>> you can alleviate this problem somewhat by moving to a bar like the wald
>> 867 or bosco, the flat front opens up some options.  That said controlling
>> sway is still going to be an issue.
>>
>> Based on what you have talked about having other challenges with, sensory
>> overload and such, I would think sway is going to be your biggest hurdle.
>>  A small rack and basket may solve a bunch of problems, even if it is a
>> plestcher and wald with zip ties.  Starting from there you can use
>> something as simple as a grocery bag or soft cooler from the thrift store
>> as a bag
>>
>> Rob
>> Ventura, Ca
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:09:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>>
>>> Also I think Joe B. from the shop has one of his first bags.
>>>
>>> Pictures proved that Ely does great work:
>>> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjAJzQe3
>>>
>>> Also here's his website
>>> http://ruthworkssf.blogspot.**com/ 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:05:24 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Ely of Ruth Bags is an SF local that does all the SFrandonnuers
 handlebar bags. He's a one man shop who does bags to order. Man of
 integrity and passion. Makes only things he finds to be beautiful.  I'm
 pretty bias tho because he is a good friend.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

[Deacon Patrick]

Thank you, Nick, Mannie, and Rob. Yes, Rob, sway is a big issue for my 
noggin, as it introduces a lot of interference to clear proprioception 
through the handlebars. The good news is I don't need to reach anything 
while riding because two hands on the bar are what I need anyway. What I 
can't figure out is why more handlebar bags don't just anchor around the 
stem like a saddlebag anchors around the seatpost. No sway.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:43:50 AM UTC-6, rperks wrote:
>
> Patrick,
> It is a serious challenge to get a bag with easy access, little sway, and 
> hang it from the Alba bars.  The forward reaching sections which are part 
> of what make the bare great IMO really squash the dream here.  That is why 
> most of bikes you see with them end up with a small rack and or basket if 
> you want your stuff up front.  The little acorn or older candybar style 
> bags are you best bets, but they are not easy to get into while on the bike 
> like a true rando or hobo style bag.  
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8587814544/
>
> you can alleviate this problem somewhat by moving to a bar like the wald 
> 867 or bosco, the flat front opens up some options.  That said controlling 
> sway is still going to be an issue.  
>
> Based on what you have talked about having other challenges with, sensory 
> overload and such, I would think sway is going to be your biggest hurdle. 
>  A small rack and basket may solve a bunch of problems, even if it is a 
> plestcher and wald with zip ties.  Starting from there you can use 
> something as simple as a grocery bag or soft cooler from the thrift store 
> as a bag
>
> Rob
> Ventura, Ca
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:09:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>
>> Also I think Joe B. from the shop has one of his first bags.
>>
>> Pictures proved that Ely does great work:
>> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjAJzQe3
>>
>> Also here's his website
>> http://ruthworkssf.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:05:24 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>>
>>> Ely of Ruth Bags is an SF local that does all the SFrandonnuers 
>>> handlebar bags. He's a one man shop who does bags to order. Man of 
>>> integrity and passion. Makes only things he finds to be beautiful.  I'm 
>>> pretty bias tho because he is a good friend.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: speaking of the blug... new Atlas rim

[rperks]

for the budget conscious there are options:
http://velocity-dev.com/index.php/product/rims/nobs-700c

and weight be damned:
http://velocity-dev.com/index.php/product/rims/cliff-hanger-622

I like the new site, not sure how and why I keep ending up at the old 
velocity USA pages, doh.

Rob
Ventura, Ca

On Friday, April 19, 2013 9:21:23 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>
> > What's so special about these rims to justify a price over $100 ??? 
>  
> Wide, likely strong, good looking, MUSA.
>
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[RBW] Re: Handlebar Bag Recommendations?

[rperks]

Patrick,
It is a serious challenge to get a bag with easy access, little sway, and 
hang it from the Alba bars.  The forward reaching sections which are part 
of what make the bare great IMO really squash the dream here.  That is why 
most of bikes you see with them end up with a small rack and or basket if 
you want your stuff up front.  The little acorn or older candybar style 
bags are you best bets, but they are not easy to get into while on the bike 
like a true rando or hobo style bag.  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8587814544/

you can alleviate this problem somewhat by moving to a bar like the wald 
867 or bosco, the flat front opens up some options.  That said controlling 
sway is still going to be an issue.  

Based on what you have talked about having other challenges with, sensory 
overload and such, I would think sway is going to be your biggest hurdle. 
 A small rack and basket may solve a bunch of problems, even if it is a 
plestcher and wald with zip ties.  Starting from there you can use 
something as simple as a grocery bag or soft cooler from the thrift store 
as a bag

Rob
Ventura, Ca

On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:09:51 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Also I think Joe B. from the shop has one of his first bags.
>
> Pictures proved that Ely does great work:
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjAJzQe3
>
> Also here's his website
> http://ruthworkssf.blogspot.com/
>
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:05:24 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>
>> Ely of Ruth Bags is an SF local that does all the SFrandonnuers handlebar 
>> bags. He's a one man shop who does bags to order. Man of integrity and 
>> passion. Makes only things he finds to be beautiful.  I'm pretty bias tho 
>> because he is a good friend.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubus racks for Summer tour with a few thoughts & pictures.

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Axioms are cheap, in part, because of country of origin, yes, but also because 
they're made and imported by the zillions. I get the impression that Nitto 
makes racks in batches of tens, or a couple hundred, at most. And then you're 
paying tons extra for a lopsided currency exchange that has nothing to do with 
the quality of the workmanship. Tubus may not be much higher volume than Nitto.

I broke a (non-structural) weld on a Tubus rack, too, also by bending it in a 
way that it wasn't meant to bend. Even with the snapped weld, I used that rack 
HARD for several years and it worked great, never gave me any problems. I 
eventually sold it on whatever bike it was on, but I've continued to use Tubus 
products, and have always been happy with that brand's smart, efficient designs 
and quality.

As far as Tubus customer service, or any customer service...I never put my 
faith in an email's ability to communicate my point (or get through spam 
filters). I have a hunch that a phone call to Ortlieb/Tubus USA would have the 
desired result. I talk to those people all the time. They're really helpful.

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[RBW] 61 cm Romulus on SF CL

[Tom Goodmann]

 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3744149782.html

No connection; thank goodness it isn't the right size for me.

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[RBW] Re: Barefoot Friendly Pedals

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, Meade! What a wondrous trip!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:25:33 PM UTC-6, Meade Anderson wrote:
>
>  I read a interesting little write several years ago on Goat’s sandal 
> setup on the pedals but can’t find it either however here’s a few shots and 
> comments from Bike Snot, ‘er Snob and more…If you look closely you can at 
> least get an idea of what he was playing with…I’ve seen better pictures too 
> but it maybe somewhere in one of Ride the Spine’s galleries…good luck…
>
>  
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmuirfromsc/7265984898/
>
> http://www.ridingthespine.com/gallery/mexicogal2.html
>
>  Look at the very last shop on the #11 gallery…
>
> Or…
>
>
> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FDBW6Ek3bzI/TqVljFZudTI/Wxg/M-tic9xCYSM/s1600/%2528R%2529Evolutions%2Bper%2BMinute_%2BCargo%2BBikes%2Bin%2Bthe%2BUS%2B-%2Ba%2Btrailer%2Bfor%2Bthe%2Bcrowdsourced%2Bdocumentary%2B-%2BYouTube-5.jpg
>
> Comment from Bike Snob:  I think that guy in sandals is Goat from Riding 
> the Spine, in which case those sandals are actually bolted onto the pedal. 
> I'm not sure where that fits into the smugness-spectrum... 
>
>
> http://www.hamptons.com/Community/Business/6329/Custom-Bikes-For-The-Green-Minded-Traveller.html
>
>  
>
> Funnily enough, Wright's favorite creation is currently on a trek from 
> Alaska to the southern-tip of South America, ridden by one of his friends, 
> a man that goes simply by the name of "Goat." The bicycle, lovingly 
> referred to as "Chupacabra," was designed to hold 200 pounds of gear on its 
> back end and currently has flip-flop sandals bolted to its pedals, as Goat 
> prefers to not wear shoes. It must be noted, Wright said, that Chupacabras 
> are known in Latin American folklore as demonic animals prone to sucking 
> the blood of -- what else but goats. "I worked over a period of a number of 
> weeks" on that bike, Wright recalled, "a lot of late nights."
>
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> Meade Anderson
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[RBW] "Hey Liesl! Tell me more about your Appaloosa experience."

[Philip Williamson]

That is so fantastic. The Boscos seem like half the bike!

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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