[RBW] Re: Carradice Duxback Poncho - Opinions?

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

I have the whole Rivendell outfit: yellow poncho with yellow fisherman's 
hat. Even with fenders with long flaps, I still need rain pants/shoe covers 
(Showers Pass is good) if I want to be entirely dry at speed (ca. 15 mph). 
If I'm willing to slow down to jogging speed and there isn't much wind, 
then pants/covers aren't really necessary. Mist and splashes from other 
traffic can still be an issue though.

It's funny you likened poncho as a well-ventilated tent because that's what 
my coworkers and fellow bike commuters like to call mine - flying yellow 
tent.


On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:58:29 PM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> I just received mine in the mail, so I realize it's kinda late for 
> opinions... but wanted to hear from others who own one of these ponchos.   
> I tested it on a short ride *(a very short ride, since it wasn't actually 
> raining, and the neighbors were giving me horrified looks...)* It's very 
> nice quality and it feels like riding a well-ventilated tent on wheels.
>
> One thing I definitely noticed; either my head is too big, or the hood is 
> rather short, barely covering my ears, but offering good peripheral vision 
> (unlike most hoods). I was able to get my helmet to fit over the hood, so I 
> think that works for me.   Question:  Do you find this hood effective, or 
> do you just abandon it altogether? Does your face still get soaked using 
> the hood?  Do you wear your helmet over the hood???
>
> Also, with fenders and poncho do you find you still need additional rain 
> protection (like shoes, spats, legs, etc.?)
>
> I've been really disappointed with my GoreTex jacket and pants (hot and 
> sticky), and I never really considered a poncho until I saw the 
> Carradice.  I have to say I'm really impressed with the quality and feel.  
> Can't wait to really test it out (and turn the neighbors faces 
> from horrified to envious).
>
> Peace,
>
> BB
> *"Rain just makes a good ride better"*
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: your old beat-up components

[Christopher Murray]

Howdy,

I recently saved a late 80's Trek from the landfill. I forget the model but 
very middle of the range. The frame is not rideable due to someone putting a 
large screw through the waterbottle mount and straight through the downtube. 
You are welcome to any of the components on the bike for free. If you are 
interested let me know and I can give you more details. I also have a good 
condition shimano 105 octalink double crankset with about 1000 miles on it. The 
rings are off the arms but everything is in the same bag. You are welcome to 
that as well- 53/39. Might have the BB too. 

I totally understand not wanting to ruin the components that are on the frame 
but also second the idea that you should seriously consider riding it and 
enjoying it. I would ask myself what I was saving the parts for and if I didn't 
have a good answer then I would wonder if I would ever use them. Saving them 
for another bike/ project seems like a not terrible idea. Saving them because 
they seem precious seems like a waste. 

Cheers!
Chris 

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[RBW] Re: OT - RIP Ezra Caldwell. Bike builder, photographer, cook, dance instructor, blogger, husband, and all around cool dude.

[Kieran J]

Wow, what an inspiring dude. I knew about his bike building, and by 
extension, his battle with cancer and the photography that he generated to 
document his life.
RIP, indeed. He seemed like a strong, creative and introspective man. Gives 
you pause, to say the least.

KJ



On Friday, May 30, 2014 4:32:20 PM UTC-4, Tonester wrote:
>
> http://www.teachingcancertocry.com/?p=2076
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[RBW] Re: OT and FS: 1985 Trek 720

[Frank Brose]

It does. Makes for a lot less guessing and speculation.

On Friday, May 30, 2014 6:53:01 PM UTC-5, Bob wrote:
>
> This should answer all questions. It's live:  
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191196884125
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[RBW] Re: OT and FS: 1985 Trek 720

[Bob]

Thanks Michael--you are correct on all counts. We live most of the time in 
Europe and are finally punting and going Brompton all the way. Lots of 
bicycles to sell.

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:02:39 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I had the same experience trying to sell my '84 620.  These are great 
> riding bikes.  I ended up converting mine to 650b & installing couplers. 
>  It combines  all the best features of a Saluki with the best features of a 
> Ram.  This bike deserves to be ridden.  Whoever buys it won't be 
> disappointed.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:45:44 AM UTC-4, Bob wrote:
>>
>> Tried to sell it on Craigslist, but did not receive any reasonable 
>> offers. Last resort to rescue it from a life of hanging from the rafters of 
>> my basement:  eBay! (Yuck.) Auction will go live this weekend. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: OT and FS: 1985 Trek 720

[Bob]

This should answer all questions. It's live: 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=191196884125

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

[Patrick Moore]

You forgot: Laterally stiff and vertically compliant!


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>  On 05/30/2014 06:11 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Patrick's next addition:
>
>  [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Slam that stem!!
>
>
>
> yes, and those 23mm tires will slice right through that gravel, and being
> so narrow they'll sneak right between the goat heads.
>
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somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
in your time and your body can they be?*
*  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried.
"Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
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Re: [RBW] It looks like now Rivendell stocks the Soma Grand Randonneur tires

[Joe Bernard]

I also think neon pink is great color for a bicycle, so pay no attention to 
my taste in the color of bikey things!

On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:22:23 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> My Force Field Fatty Rumpkins have that reddish brown sidewall.  :-(  
>
> Now every time I get on the Bombadil I'm going to feel bad that Joe 
> Bernard thinks my sidewalls are horrid.  Dude harshed my mellow!  
>
> OK, I'm over it
>
> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:46:06 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> It's pricey - and that reddish-brown sidewall is horrid - but I guess you 
>> pay for all that Japanese-made not-built-like-a-rock flat protection. I 
>> wouldn't spend that kind of money on tires for the amount of casual riding 
>> I do, but if I relied on it to get me to work without a flat every day it 
>> would be a different story. Put simply, money buys technology, and 
>> sometimes technology is good.
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> Vallejo, CA.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:16:40 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>>> $76??  Really???  That's almost as much as my last set of car tires cost 
>>> me per tire with mounting, balancing, sales tax and road hazard included in 
>>> the figure. ($330 out the door with all of the above included).  Plus the 
>>> car tires last a lot longer.
>>>
>>> I know the price is similar to the GB "Extra Leger" and the Compass 
>>> "Ultralights" but geez I am beginning to lament the lack of good tires for 
>>> us working joes.
>>>
>>> I have to admit I am curious about them also but my upper limit for 
>>> tires is $60, I'm drawing a line in the sand right there.  I will continue 
>>> with the Loup Loup Pass non-extralight for $59, which I am glad they still 
>>> offer.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 EXTRA STOUT 

 svelte and s-word 

 I need to wear out some tires so I can try some of these out.  Since 
 they are Somas, it means your local bike shop can sell them to you as 
 well.  

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: Looking for 11cm Technomic Deluxe

[Brian Campbell]

Thanks to all who responded. I was able to find one. Thanks!

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:11:47 AM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> I am looking for a Technomic deluxe in the11cm size. I don't need the 
> height of a Tallux or standard Technomic. I have other stems or parts I can 
> trade or can pay cash.
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[RBW] Re: OT - RIP Ezra Caldwell. Bike builder, photographer, cook, dance instructor, blogger, husband, and all around cool dude.

[Father of Sam]

So sad he is gone... so glad he was here. What an inspiration, a beacon of 
how to live freely, a creative soul.  All of his bikes are works of art.
He will be missed by multitudes, but I feel he will touch the hearts of 
even more.
 

On Friday, May 30, 2014 3:51:37 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote:

> Really heartbreaking. I never met him, but I felt like I knew him from 
> reading his writing and following his pictures for so many years.
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014 1:32:20 PM UTC-7, Tonester wrote: 
>>
>> http://www.teachingcancertocry.com/?p=2076
>>
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[RBW] Re: It looks like now Rivendell stocks the Soma Grand Randonneur tires

[Evan Baird]

Just for comparison.

http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/challenge-grifo-xs-33-tubular-cyclocross-tire

On Friday, May 30, 2014 3:54:11 PM UTC-7, Evan Baird wrote:
>
> Hoping to make a 66tpi version at some point and bring the price down. 
> Still, you don't get a 300g tire without some special sauce.
>
> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:03:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> EXTRA STOUT 
>>
>> svelte and s-word 
>>
>> I need to wear out some tires so I can try some of these out.  Since they 
>> are Somas, it means your local bike shop can sell them to you as well.  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: It looks like now Rivendell stocks the Soma Grand Randonneur tires

[Evan Baird]

Hoping to make a 66tpi version at some point and bring the price down. 
Still, you don't get a 300g tire without some special sauce.

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:03:25 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> EXTRA STOUT 
>
> svelte and s-word 
>
> I need to wear out some tires so I can try some of these out.  Since they 
> are Somas, it means your local bike shop can sell them to you as well.  
>

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[RBW] Re: OT - RIP Ezra Caldwell. Bike builder, photographer, cook, dance instructor, blogger, husband, and all around cool dude.

[Evan Baird]

Really heartbreaking. I never met him, but I felt like I knew him from 
reading his writing and following his pictures for so many years.

On Friday, May 30, 2014 1:32:20 PM UTC-7, Tonester wrote:
>
> http://www.teachingcancertocry.com/?p=2076
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 58cm Atlantis - Got one?

[dougP]

Curtis:

You're unlikely to find a 2TT 68 cm Atlantis on the market, but I'm sure 
the elves in Walnut Creek could work out something.  I agree with Hugh:  be 
patient, & it will get here.  Heck, just finding anything in 68 cm would be 
long shot.;;

dougP

On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:38:53 AM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
>
> Hugh,
>
> Could you find me a DTT 68 cm Atlantis please.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Hugh Smitham  > wrote:
>
>> I think it's a testament to the Atlantis, how infrequently they go up for 
>> sale. They do but folks tend to hang onto them. 
>>  On May 30, 2014 10:14 AM, "Michael Fleischman" > > wrote:
>>
>>> I think this one sold on eBay a few weeks ago.  The same bike is listed 
>>> as a completed item.  Thanks for the heads up.  
>>>
>>> Michael
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

[Steve Palincsar]

On 05/30/2014 06:11 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:

Patrick's next addition:

Inline image 1

Slam that stem!!




yes, and those 23mm tires will slice right through that gravel, and 
being so narrow they'll sneak right between the goat heads.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

[Deacon Patrick]

Am I that easy to read, Patrick? Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

[Patrick Moore]

Patrick's next addition:

[image: Inline image 1]

Slam that stem!!



On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Indeed, I am not. But I could be, if I needed to be. Grin.
>
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  * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never
was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it.
Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
* "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to
look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
in your time and your body can they be?*
*  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried.
"Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where
Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of
you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood  *

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

[Tim Gavin]

Ryan-

Panasonic makes all Grand Bois, Compass, Soma, Panaracer, and Rivendell
tires (and probably more).  They allow each company to design their own
tires to their own specifications, and they obviously make good tires!


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Ryan  wrote:

> Yes, indeed and no offense meant, of course. People like me who live in
> glass houses shouldn't throw stones...Also...Rivendells are so good it's
> hard to stop at oneparticularly if they don't overlap. Your Hunq and QB
> are quite different bikes...but they both seem to thrive on roads and
> trails. Good-looking bikes, too.
>
> I've found that my LBSes are quite intrigued by things Rivendellianbut
> cycling is a big tent
>
> You all have me intrigued by these tires of Jan's.I looked at the details
> on his blog, but I didn't see which company makes them. I wonder if it's
> Panasonic.
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014 4:27:16 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
>> Indeed, I am not. But I could be, if I needed to be. Grin.
>>
>> On a completely unrelated note, I was at my LBS picking up parts (the
>> owner kindly does the transaction outside, so I don't get blown away by
>> scents). For the first time ever he was impressed with something on my
>> bike, noticing the Barlow Pass tires and how supple and well rounded they
>> are. Cracked me up to no end. He's a Specialized focused store, with an
>> emphasis on suspension MTB, "rim brakes will be gone in a year or two" kind
>> of guy. Does me goon on parts and tools though, special ordering much of
>> what I need.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Friday, May 30, 2014 3:10:50 PM UTC-6, Ryan wrote:
>>>
>>> Except you're not a one-bike guy anymore, are you?  -
>>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:49:33 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Hey Tom,

 Sorry, I wan't clear. I'm saying the Sam is also a go anywhere do
 almost anything bike, though obviously not as loaded as the Hunqa. And the
 Riv folks will help you build it up beautifully.

 I imagine if I was into club rides or cared about speed on solo road
 rides, I'd love to have a Rodeo, but I am so delighted to ride and have the
 freedom to turn off and explore any road or trail I happen upon, that I am
 thrilled to be a one bike guy. You will love your Sam!

 "With abandon" began decades ago as my response to the folks and others
 bidding me to drive safely. "Nah! I'll drive with abandon!" Which isn't
 tossing safety to the wind, but rather entering into life with free, wild
 abandon and enjoying the journey. Of course it takes a certain amount of
 abandon to have vertigo, run mountain trails and ride a bike barefoot.
 Grin. May you ride your new Sam with wild abandon!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:34:48 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> Patrick,
>
> I'm just reading all about the Hunqa  on the Riv site . . . you know
> how it is when you enter new water: toes first, and next time, you dive 
> in!
> So, a Sam H for now, which will be a better, and better-fitting bike than 
> I
> have ever owned, and who knows what will come next? It's great to read of
> your recovered mobility via this great bike, and I also like your
> signature: "with abandon."  Getting back into biking has meant I've barely
> driven the car in weeks, and even the motorcycle stands still.
>
> Tom
>
> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:00:05 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Tom,
>>
>> I worked closely with Grant et al at Riv on my Hunqa build and am
>> delighted I did. To see the craftmanship Mark puts into every build is
>> beautiful, and I would not have gotten it had I had someone local build 
>> it
>> up.
>>
>> I continue to be amazed at the fluidity with which my bike goes from
>> pavement to dirt road to trail, handling each as though it were made for 
>> it
>> (which it is!). I've never had a bike this happy to go anywhere, do
>> anything, loaded or not with me comfortable the whole way. Sheer delight!
>> Have fun, whatever you choose. You really can't go wrong working with the
>> Rivfolk.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:52:44 AM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>
>>> Absolutely I'm up for the swap, Ben.  I've had what I now know is
>>> typically great and patient help from the RivFolk, and for this first 
>>> bike,
>>> I sheepishly confess, I may just go with a build kit, as I feel pretty 
>>> far
>>> away from knowing both the current component market and more 
>>> specifically
>>> what works best on a Sam, whereas RivFolk have sorted through the
>>> questions.  As others have suggested, this need not be a one-time or 
>>> short
>>> term project, and I am already thinking to use cable splitters to bu

[RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

[Ryan]

Yes, indeed and no offense meant, of course. People like me who live in 
glass houses shouldn't throw stones...Also...Rivendells are so good it's 
hard to stop at oneparticularly if they don't overlap. Your Hunq and QB 
are quite different bikes...but they both seem to thrive on roads and 
trails. Good-looking bikes, too.
 
I've found that my LBSes are quite intrigued by things Rivendellianbut 
cycling is a big tent
 
You all have me intrigued by these tires of Jan's.I looked at the details 
on his blog, but I didn't see which company makes them. I wonder if it's 
Panasonic.
On Friday, May 30, 2014 4:27:16 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> Indeed, I am not. But I could be, if I needed to be. Grin. 
>
> On a completely unrelated note, I was at my LBS picking up parts (the 
> owner kindly does the transaction outside, so I don't get blown away by 
> scents). For the first time ever he was impressed with something on my 
> bike, noticing the Barlow Pass tires and how supple and well rounded they 
> are. Cracked me up to no end. He's a Specialized focused store, with an 
> emphasis on suspension MTB, "rim brakes will be gone in a year or two" kind 
> of guy. Does me goon on parts and tools though, special ordering much of 
> what I need.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014 3:10:50 PM UTC-6, Ryan wrote: 
>>
>> Except you're not a one-bike guy anymore, are you?  -
>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:49:33 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hey Tom, 
>>>
>>> Sorry, I wan't clear. I'm saying the Sam is also a go anywhere do almost 
>>> anything bike, though obviously not as loaded as the Hunqa. And the Riv 
>>> folks will help you build it up beautifully.
>>>
>>> I imagine if I was into club rides or cared about speed on solo road 
>>> rides, I'd love to have a Rodeo, but I am so delighted to ride and have the 
>>> freedom to turn off and explore any road or trail I happen upon, that I am 
>>> thrilled to be a one bike guy. You will love your Sam!
>>>
>>> "With abandon" began decades ago as my response to the folks and others 
>>> bidding me to drive safely. "Nah! I'll drive with abandon!" Which isn't 
>>> tossing safety to the wind, but rather entering into life with free, wild 
>>> abandon and enjoying the journey. Of course it takes a certain amount of 
>>> abandon to have vertigo, run mountain trails and ride a bike barefoot. 
>>> Grin. May you ride your new Sam with wild abandon!
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:34:48 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote: 

 Patrick, 

 I'm just reading all about the Hunqa  on the Riv site . . . you know 
 how it is when you enter new water: toes first, and next time, you dive 
 in! 
 So, a Sam H for now, which will be a better, and better-fitting bike than 
 I 
 have ever owned, and who knows what will come next? It's great to read of 
 your recovered mobility via this great bike, and I also like your 
 signature: "with abandon."  Getting back into biking has meant I've barely 
 driven the car in weeks, and even the motorcycle stands still.

 Tom

 On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:00:05 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
>
> Hey Tom, 
>
> I worked closely with Grant et al at Riv on my Hunqa build and am 
> delighted I did. To see the craftmanship Mark puts into every build is 
> beautiful, and I would not have gotten it had I had someone local build 
> it 
> up.
>
> I continue to be amazed at the fluidity with which my bike goes from 
> pavement to dirt road to trail, handling each as though it were made for 
> it 
> (which it is!). I've never had a bike this happy to go anywhere, do 
> anything, loaded or not with me comfortable the whole way. Sheer delight! 
> Have fun, whatever you choose. You really can't go wrong working with the 
> Rivfolk.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:52:44 AM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote: 
>>
>> Absolutely I'm up for the swap, Ben.  I've had what I now know is 
>> typically great and patient help from the RivFolk, and for this first 
>> bike, 
>> I sheepishly confess, I may just go with a build kit, as I feel pretty 
>> far 
>> away from knowing both the current component market and more 
>> specifically 
>> what works best on a Sam, whereas RivFolk have sorted through the 
>> questions.  As others have suggested, this need not be a one-time or 
>> short 
>> term project, and I am already thinking to use cable splitters to build 
>> a 
>> second cockpit with drops, and go with the upright Alb buiid kit for 
>> now. I 
>> used to know a little bit about bikes, but let all of it, and frequent 
>> riding, get away from me (as in, "where is that BB puller living 
>> nowadays?")  
>>
>> I feel lucky to get the frame at the sale pri

[RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

[Deacon Patrick]

Indeed, I am not. But I could be, if I needed to be. Grin.

On a completely unrelated note, I was at my LBS picking up parts (the owner 
kindly does the transaction outside, so I don't get blown away by scents). 
For the first time ever he was impressed with something on my bike, 
noticing the Barlow Pass tires and how supple and well rounded they are. 
Cracked me up to no end. He's a Specialized focused store, with an emphasis 
on suspension MTB, "rim brakes will be gone in a year or two" kind of guy. 
Does me goon on parts and tools though, special ordering much of what I 
need.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, May 30, 2014 3:10:50 PM UTC-6, Ryan wrote:
>
> Except you're not a one-bike guy anymore, are you?  -
> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:49:33 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
>>
>> Hey Tom, 
>>
>> Sorry, I wan't clear. I'm saying the Sam is also a go anywhere do almost 
>> anything bike, though obviously not as loaded as the Hunqa. And the Riv 
>> folks will help you build it up beautifully.
>>
>> I imagine if I was into club rides or cared about speed on solo road 
>> rides, I'd love to have a Rodeo, but I am so delighted to ride and have the 
>> freedom to turn off and explore any road or trail I happen upon, that I am 
>> thrilled to be a one bike guy. You will love your Sam!
>>
>> "With abandon" began decades ago as my response to the folks and others 
>> bidding me to drive safely. "Nah! I'll drive with abandon!" Which isn't 
>> tossing safety to the wind, but rather entering into life with free, wild 
>> abandon and enjoying the journey. Of course it takes a certain amount of 
>> abandon to have vertigo, run mountain trails and ride a bike barefoot. 
>> Grin. May you ride your new Sam with wild abandon!
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:34:48 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote: 
>>>
>>> Patrick, 
>>>
>>> I'm just reading all about the Hunqa  on the Riv site . . . you know how 
>>> it is when you enter new water: toes first, and next time, you dive in! So, 
>>> a Sam H for now, which will be a better, and better-fitting bike than I 
>>> have ever owned, and who knows what will come next? It's great to read of 
>>> your recovered mobility via this great bike, and I also like your 
>>> signature: "with abandon."  Getting back into biking has meant I've barely 
>>> driven the car in weeks, and even the motorcycle stands still.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:00:05 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: 

 Hey Tom, 

 I worked closely with Grant et al at Riv on my Hunqa build and am 
 delighted I did. To see the craftmanship Mark puts into every build is 
 beautiful, and I would not have gotten it had I had someone local build it 
 up.

 I continue to be amazed at the fluidity with which my bike goes from 
 pavement to dirt road to trail, handling each as though it were made for 
 it 
 (which it is!). I've never had a bike this happy to go anywhere, do 
 anything, loaded or not with me comfortable the whole way. Sheer delight! 
 Have fun, whatever you choose. You really can't go wrong working with the 
 Rivfolk.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:52:44 AM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote: 
>
> Absolutely I'm up for the swap, Ben.  I've had what I now know is 
> typically great and patient help from the RivFolk, and for this first 
> bike, 
> I sheepishly confess, I may just go with a build kit, as I feel pretty 
> far 
> away from knowing both the current component market and more specifically 
> what works best on a Sam, whereas RivFolk have sorted through the 
> questions.  As others have suggested, this need not be a one-time or 
> short 
> term project, and I am already thinking to use cable splitters to build a 
> second cockpit with drops, and go with the upright Alb buiid kit for now. 
> I 
> used to know a little bit about bikes, but let all of it, and frequent 
> riding, get away from me (as in, "where is that BB puller living 
> nowadays?")  
>
> I feel lucky to get the frame at the sale price, and have been told 
> that for my build (5'11", 87 PBH) the 56 Sam is even better than the 
> forthcoming 58, new for this year.  (By what means, Ben, are you adding 
> the 
> custom paint--optioned via Riv?)  For the moment, they are holding the 
> frame as I decide on the build.
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:03:28 PM UTC-5, BenG wrote: 
>>
>> Hi Tom!  Similar story here - I bought the last green 60cm Hillborne 
>> sale frame, which was a shop return. With custom paint it'll be only a 
>> bit 
>> over $100 from new frame price - Yay!  I'm at the low end of 60's pbh 
>> range, figuring to use bosco bars and enjoy the extra retreat.  I have 
>> an 
>> Albatross bar with Silver bar-ends and mtb brake levers on a Speci

[RBW] Re: Anyone using Paul Funky Monkey with Nitto Quill?

[Father of Sam]

Whoops... of course the fork mounted stop wouldn't work with racers... 
duh.  But I still advocate using a 1" mounted to your steerer within your 
headset stack, if there's room.
 
-P.
On Friday, May 30, 2014 2:14:35 PM UTC-7, Father of Sam wrote:

>  Here's a vote for the fork-crown mounted Tektro cable housing stop.  
> Mine's with a Nitto mini front rack.  Works like a dream.  The 7/8", as 
> already confirmed, mounts directly to the stem (quill or bullmoose), the 1" 
> around the steerer of which that quill stem or bullmoose slides into, 
> within the stack of your headset, and 11/8" around steerer beneath your 
> 'ahead' clamp on stem, of which you would never find on the RBW site.  I 
> personally dislike the idea of mounting the cable stop directly to the stem 
> (as pictured above).  This way prohibits ease of raising or lowering the 
> stem (which is a profound benefit of the quill or bullmoose, as RBW 
> espouses) with ease, as you would then need to reposition the housing 
> stop.  When mounted within the headset stack, or on the fork crown, you can 
> raise (or drop) your stem (and bars), with no effect on your brake setup, 
> to your hearts desire...
> Photo (if I succeeded in attaching it) is of my front brake cable housing 
> stop and rack set up (with a P&S rack tang).  It currently has the post of 
> a Nitto mini holding it in place (and I'll see if I can find a photo... or 
> maybe I'll just take one...)
>  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/4500859736/
>  
> Ride on
>  
> -P.
> On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:42:50 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>
>> So are you using the 7/8ths, 1" or 1 1/18ths inch?  My question was which 
>> of the thre works with the Nitto Dirt Drop without being incorporated into 
>> the spacers.  Turns out that is the 7/8ths. 
>>
>> Which works with Bullmoose? 
>>
>> On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:09:50 AM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: 
>>>
>>> Im using funky monkeys on the Mb-1 attached to the bosco bullmoose... 
>>> not exactly a quil stem, is it?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone using Paul Funky Monkey with Nitto Quill?

[Father of Sam]

Here's a vote for the fork-crown mounted Tektro cable housing stop.  
Mine's with a Nitto mini front rack.  Works like a dream.  The 7/8", as 
already confirmed, mounts directly to the stem (quill or bullmoose), the 1" 
around the steerer of which that quill stem or bullmoose slides into, 
within the stack of your headset, and 11/8" around steerer beneath your 
'ahead' clamp on stem, of which you would never find on the RBW site.  I 
personally dislike the idea of mounting the cable stop directly to the stem 
(as pictured above).  This way prohibits ease of raising or lowering the 
stem (which is a profound benefit of the quill or bullmoose, as RBW 
espouses) with ease, as you would then need to reposition the housing 
stop.  When mounted within the headset stack, or on the fork crown, you can 
raise (or drop) your stem (and bars), with no effect on your brake setup, 
to your hearts desire...
Photo (if I succeeded in attaching it) is of my front brake cable housing 
stop and rack set up (with a P&S rack tang).  It currently has the post of 
a Nitto mini holding it in place (and I'll see if I can find a photo... or 
maybe I'll just take one...)
 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/4500859736/
 
Ride on
 
-P.
On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:42:50 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

> So are you using the 7/8ths, 1" or 1 1/18ths inch?  My question was which 
> of the thre works with the Nitto Dirt Drop without being incorporated into 
> the spacers.  Turns out that is the 7/8ths. 
>
> Which works with Bullmoose? 
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:09:50 AM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote: 
>>
>> Im using funky monkeys on the Mb-1 attached to the bosco bullmoose... not 
>> exactly a quil stem, is it?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

[Ryan]

Except you're not a one-bike guy anymore, are you?  -
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:49:33 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
>
> Hey Tom, 
>
> Sorry, I wan't clear. I'm saying the Sam is also a go anywhere do almost 
> anything bike, though obviously not as loaded as the Hunqa. And the Riv 
> folks will help you build it up beautifully.
>
> I imagine if I was into club rides or cared about speed on solo road 
> rides, I'd love to have a Rodeo, but I am so delighted to ride and have the 
> freedom to turn off and explore any road or trail I happen upon, that I am 
> thrilled to be a one bike guy. You will love your Sam!
>
> "With abandon" began decades ago as my response to the folks and others 
> bidding me to drive safely. "Nah! I'll drive with abandon!" Which isn't 
> tossing safety to the wind, but rather entering into life with free, wild 
> abandon and enjoying the journey. Of course it takes a certain amount of 
> abandon to have vertigo, run mountain trails and ride a bike barefoot. 
> Grin. May you ride your new Sam with wild abandon!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:34:48 PM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote: 
>>
>> Patrick, 
>>
>> I'm just reading all about the Hunqa  on the Riv site . . . you know how 
>> it is when you enter new water: toes first, and next time, you dive in! So, 
>> a Sam H for now, which will be a better, and better-fitting bike than I 
>> have ever owned, and who knows what will come next? It's great to read of 
>> your recovered mobility via this great bike, and I also like your 
>> signature: "with abandon."  Getting back into biking has meant I've barely 
>> driven the car in weeks, and even the motorcycle stands still.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:00:05 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hey Tom, 
>>>
>>> I worked closely with Grant et al at Riv on my Hunqa build and am 
>>> delighted I did. To see the craftmanship Mark puts into every build is 
>>> beautiful, and I would not have gotten it had I had someone local build it 
>>> up.
>>>
>>> I continue to be amazed at the fluidity with which my bike goes from 
>>> pavement to dirt road to trail, handling each as though it were made for it 
>>> (which it is!). I've never had a bike this happy to go anywhere, do 
>>> anything, loaded or not with me comfortable the whole way. Sheer delight! 
>>> Have fun, whatever you choose. You really can't go wrong working with the 
>>> Rivfolk.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:52:44 AM UTC-7, Tom Goodmann wrote: 

 Absolutely I'm up for the swap, Ben.  I've had what I now know is 
 typically great and patient help from the RivFolk, and for this first 
 bike, 
 I sheepishly confess, I may just go with a build kit, as I feel pretty far 
 away from knowing both the current component market and more specifically 
 what works best on a Sam, whereas RivFolk have sorted through the 
 questions.  As others have suggested, this need not be a one-time or short 
 term project, and I am already thinking to use cable splitters to build a 
 second cockpit with drops, and go with the upright Alb buiid kit for now. 
 I 
 used to know a little bit about bikes, but let all of it, and frequent 
 riding, get away from me (as in, "where is that BB puller living 
 nowadays?")  

 I feel lucky to get the frame at the sale price, and have been told 
 that for my build (5'11", 87 PBH) the 56 Sam is even better than the 
 forthcoming 58, new for this year.  (By what means, Ben, are you adding 
 the 
 custom paint--optioned via Riv?)  For the moment, they are holding the 
 frame as I decide on the build.

 On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:03:28 PM UTC-5, BenG wrote: 
>
> Hi Tom!  Similar story here - I bought the last green 60cm Hillborne 
> sale frame, which was a shop return. With custom paint it'll be only a 
> bit 
> over $100 from new frame price - Yay!  I'm at the low end of 60's pbh 
> range, figuring to use bosco bars and enjoy the extra retreat.  I have an 
> Albatross bar with Silver bar-ends and mtb brake levers on a Specialized 
> commuter, and it has served me Very Well.  That machine, stock, had a 
> "flat 
> bar road bike" cockpit (grin), but the pursuit of comfort brought a 
> low-rise mtb bar, a moustache bar on a steer tube extender, and finally 
> the 
> Albatross, where comfort lives.  Good chance you'll like it, too.
> It would be fun to swap pics with you down the road.  What say?
> Ben Guthrie
>
> On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:15:55 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> Just over an hour ago, I snagged the last Sam Hillborne frame from 
>> Riv at the sale price; I'm going to wait on the build a bit and think 
>> over 
>> drops, moustaches, or albies, but am leaning towards the albatross bars 
>> as 
>> something new

[RBW] Re: WTB: your old beat-up components

[Deacon Patrick]

Och! Sorry, folks. That was supposed to be off list. I'll resend it off 
list so you can reply off list, Chris.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, May 30, 2014 2:55:51 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I have Albatross cro-mo bars and Nitto Tallux Stem - 25.4mm - 12cm. Both 
> used for two years on my Hunqapillar. There were a few drops on the trail, 
> but I'd be perfectly happy riding them from a safety perspective. $137 new. 
> How's $110 including shipping sound?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:54:51 PM UTC-6, Christopher Miller Rosales 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey All!
>>
>> I picked up a beautiful 1985 Specialized Sequoia with pristine Suntour 
>> Superbe/Cyclone components. The bike is an absolute joy to ride and I'm 
>> making it my every day bike, but I feel guilty using these super high 
>> polish parts on a commuter. I've decided to box most of the original 
>> components and put on a more utilitarian group.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any of the following in your parts box!
>>
>> Quill stem 120 - 130mm, 25.4
>> Crankset -  single or double road, matching front derailleur
>> Nitto Albatross or similar upright bar
>> Short Pull Levers
>> Thumb shifters - friction/7/8 speed
>> Commuter wheelset, 700c 130mm cassette
>>
>>
>> I'm looking for quality, but ugly components - like old beat-up XT. Thank 
>> you all for the help on building my new bike, message me if you have 
>> anything. I can't wait to make this my budget commuter Rivendell! Will post 
>> pics when done.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Chris
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: your old beat-up components

[Deacon Patrick]

Chris,

I have Albatross cro-mo bars and Nitto Tallux Stem - 25.4mm - 12cm. Both 
used for two years on my Hunqapillar. There were a few drops on the trail, 
but I'd be perfectly happy riding them from a safety perspective. $137 new. 
How's $110 including shipping sound?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:54:51 PM UTC-6, Christopher Miller Rosales 
wrote:
>
> Hey All!
>
> I picked up a beautiful 1985 Specialized Sequoia with pristine Suntour 
> Superbe/Cyclone components. The bike is an absolute joy to ride and I'm 
> making it my every day bike, but I feel guilty using these super high 
> polish parts on a commuter. I've decided to box most of the original 
> components and put on a more utilitarian group.
>
> Please let me know if you have any of the following in your parts box!
>
> Quill stem 120 - 130mm, 25.4
> Crankset -  single or double road, matching front derailleur
> Nitto Albatross or similar upright bar
> Short Pull Levers
> Thumb shifters - friction/7/8 speed
> Commuter wheelset, 700c 130mm cassette
>
>
> I'm looking for quality, but ugly components - like old beat-up XT. Thank 
> you all for the help on building my new bike, message me if you have 
> anything. I can't wait to make this my budget commuter Rivendell! Will post 
> pics when done.
>
> Best,
>
> Chris
> Berkeley, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Bike Shops in Nashville, TN?

[Edwin W]

check this out - on a site that recommends the bike swap, they have a photo 
of a Betty?!?
I don't think there will be many Rivs there, but who knows.
https://impulcity.com/e/879049/Music_City_Bike_Swap_at_Halcyon_Bike_Shop

Edwin

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:28:38 AM UTC-5, Michael Fleischman wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> Anyone know of any Riv-ish bike shops in Nashville, TN?  
>
> I am traveling there this weekend and was curious if anyone knew of any 
> good shops to check out.  I love stopping into different bike shops when I 
> am on the road.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: your old beat-up components

[Montclair BobbyB]

Chris: Wouldn't that be like dressing Heidi Klum in Duluth Trading work 
clothes??  Unless your Sequoia is in danger of being pilfered for its 
parts, why not LEAVE it as-is and ride with those original awesome 
components!!  That's what MAKES the Sequoia; how it was originally 
spec'd... What ELSE you gonna use these components for, honestly??

Shed the guilt... strut yo stuff !!

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 2:54:51 PM UTC-4, Christopher Miller Rosales 
wrote:
>
> Hey All!
>
> I picked up a beautiful 1985 Specialized Sequoia with pristine Suntour 
> Superbe/Cyclone components. The bike is an absolute joy to ride and I'm 
> making it my every day bike, but I feel guilty using these super high 
> polish parts on a commuter. I've decided to box most of the original 
> components and put on a more utilitarian group.
>
> Please let me know if you have any of the following in your parts box!
>
> Quill stem 120 - 130mm, 25.4
> Crankset -  single or double road, matching front derailleur
> Nitto Albatross or similar upright bar
> Short Pull Levers
> Thumb shifters - friction/7/8 speed
> Commuter wheelset, 700c 130mm cassette
>
>
> I'm looking for quality, but ugly components - like old beat-up XT. Thank 
> you all for the help on building my new bike, message me if you have 
> anything. I can't wait to make this my budget commuter Rivendell! Will post 
> pics when done.
>
> Best,
>
> Chris
> Berkeley, CA
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[RBW] OT - RIP Ezra Caldwell. Bike builder, photographer, cook, dance instructor, blogger, husband, and all around cool dude.

[Tonester]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Double TT Atlantis and magic bars

[Mike Williams]

Hey Mathew,  good eye,  it is indeed a Pass and Stow,  ive had it for ~3years 
and its pretty great.  Crashed with it once,  but its still very solid.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 29, 2014, at 7:10 AM, Mathew Greiner  wrote:
> 
> Awesome looking bike. And is that a Pass & Stow rack? How long have you had 
> that and how do you like it?
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:48:10 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote:
>> So I am lucky to have recently acquired a Double top tuber Atlantis from 
>> Riv, size SixtyFour, I had a 61cm, and it always felt a tad small,  im 89.7 
>> PBH.   So in ordering the SixtyFour, I thought heck,  why not throw another 
>> tube in there.   The bike is  perfect for the riding I enjoy. Part two of 
>> this story is the bars I decided to go with.   I am an upright bar rider,  I 
>> have 4 bikes and all of them have some variation of swept back bars.  After 
>> some interwebs searching and general research, I came across the Wald 872s.  
>>  I would describe them as a more mountainy Albatross bar.   Theyre 60cm wide 
>> vs. 56, The angle of the grip is canted out more, they rise a little higher 
>> and they accept bar end shifters!   They just feel a tad better for rougher 
>> stuff than Albas.  My only wish is that the grip area was a bit longer,  but 
>> they sure are some sweet bars and MUSA!  Attached pic
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[RBW] 1991 MB1 Frame, Original Baggins Hobo Bag, More stuff for sale

[Marc Schwartz]

I am selling some items of Rivendellish and classic providence.
Cheep!; need the space, need the cash. More to follow.
Please contact me for individual photos and information; mschw...@nmsu.edu. 
Prices are open to discussion. PayPal, please to am...@zianet.com

Bridgestone 1991 MB-1 Frame and fork, lugged steel, tusk and Grey, Ritchey 
unicrown fork, Ritchey headset and BB, some paint scratches and decal wear, no 
dents or rust, straight. 22" C-C top tube, 18" C-T down tube. $100 + $50 UPS 
Ground.

Original Baggins Hobo Bag, heavier waxed cotton fabric (not the lighter 
Filsons) darker tan or light Khaki. Main compartment zippered, two large rear 
pockets w/ leather straps & buckles, smaller front pocket. Plenty of dirt and 
patina, no real significant wear, absolutely no holes or thin spots. Fairly 
rare these days. $75+ $15 USPS priority.

REDUCED Selle Titanico saddle, black leather, black steel rails, copper 
rivets. About 300 miles of use. Good shape, no cracks. This is the older 
version of the Anatomica X, for riders over 160 lb. $55, $15 USPS
Priority Shipping

REDUCED!!  Ritchey early 90's single bolt seat post by Nitto. 27.2 Dia.  9" 
Long Insertion . Normal moderate insertion scratches. Same as current Nitto 
1-bolt but a bit longer.
$25 , $15 USPS

Thanks,
Marc

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 58cm Atlantis - Got one?

[Hugh Smitham]

Mark,

I saw that thread. Personally, I know how difficult selling a bike can be.
I'm of the opinion that you just get the bike you want. Case in point, I
purchased my 2003 Atlantis August 2013 from Seattle Craigslist. I've
completely refurbished it over 9 months. It was in fact a longer project
than I figured. Fortunately I had Homer to ride.
On May 30, 2014 12:11 PM, "Mark Reimer"  wrote:

> A 58cm Atlantis was just up on eBay, located in Canada, for 1,600 CAD with
> a chris king headset. It had a small ding in the downtube though.
>
> I bought a used 58cm about 3-4 weeks ago off Craigslist from a gentleman
> in Colorado, and the ad had been sitting for a few weeks when I contacted
> him. So they do come up from time to time, but definitely not often.
>
> If the waiting time is the only issue, it has also been suggested here
> that one could order an Atlantis, and find a Surly LHT to use while you
> wait, as they are very similar. Not ideal, but gets you on the road...
>
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014 1:47:52 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Lol. Curtis that's a tall order (pun intended). Believe it I've kept an
>> eye for such a beast. Did we confirm Rivendell produced that size? IIRC
>> they did.
>> On May 30, 2014 11:38 AM, "Curtis McKenzie"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hugh,
>>>
>>> Could you find me a DTT 68 cm Atlantis please.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Hugh Smitham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I think it's a testament to the Atlantis, how infrequently they go up
 for sale. They do but folks tend to hang onto them.
  On May 30, 2014 10:14 AM, "Michael Fleischman" 
 wrote:

> I think this one sold on eBay a few weeks ago.  The same bike is
> listed as a completed item.  Thanks for the heads up.
>
> Michael
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[RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Silver brakes - NEW IN BOX

[Eric]

Let's do $75 shipped (PayPal okay as long as fees are covered). 

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 58cm Atlantis - Got one?

[Mark Reimer]

A 58cm Atlantis was just up on eBay, located in Canada, for 1,600 CAD with 
a chris king headset. It had a small ding in the downtube though. 

I bought a used 58cm about 3-4 weeks ago off Craigslist from a gentleman in 
Colorado, and the ad had been sitting for a few weeks when I contacted him. 
So they do come up from time to time, but definitely not often. 

If the waiting time is the only issue, it has also been suggested here that 
one could order an Atlantis, and find a Surly LHT to use while you wait, as 
they are very similar. Not ideal, but gets you on the road...


On Friday, May 30, 2014 1:47:52 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Lol. Curtis that's a tall order (pun intended). Believe it I've kept an 
> eye for such a beast. Did we confirm Rivendell produced that size? IIRC 
> they did.
> On May 30, 2014 11:38 AM, "Curtis McKenzie"  > wrote:
>
>> Hugh,
>>
>> Could you find me a DTT 68 cm Atlantis please.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Hugh Smitham > > wrote:
>>
>>> I think it's a testament to the Atlantis, how infrequently they go up 
>>> for sale. They do but folks tend to hang onto them. 
>>>  On May 30, 2014 10:14 AM, "Michael Fleischman" >> > wrote:
>>>
 I think this one sold on eBay a few weeks ago.  The same bike is listed 
 as a completed item.  Thanks for the heads up.  

 Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivet Saddle Experience

[Toshi Takeuchi]

As a disclosure, I am a friend of Deb Banks, the owner of Rivet, but I have
three Rivet saddles and am a huge fan of all of them.  I have ridden 600ks
with two of them with minimal butt problems.  This year's 600k was done
with only two rides over 2 hours in length this year (a 300k and a 400k),
so it's not as if my butt is acclimated to long riding!

The wider Pearl saddle that I have is much more comfortable than the Brook
Swift I had, which is too narrow for the more upright brevet riding that I
have been doing.

Have fun!
Toshi



On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Well, Ron, the used Independence is heading back to Rivet Cycle Works, so
> you might get a deal on it if it's still around and you are fine with a
> slightly used one.
>
> On the QB it's a Phil hub. I run 40/16 as my high, 32/19 as my low.
> Eventually will have a 22t for a bailout gear.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:47:51 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> thanks for the review - I have a major application an Independence, and
>> it's in my want queue.  I didn't read about your Quickbeam before, my
>> mystake.  Gorgeous bike, is that an IGH?
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 58cm Atlantis - Got one?

[Hugh Smitham]

Lol. Curtis that's a tall order (pun intended). Believe it I've kept an eye
for such a beast. Did we confirm Rivendell produced that size? IIRC they
did.
On May 30, 2014 11:38 AM, "Curtis McKenzie"  wrote:

> Hugh,
>
> Could you find me a DTT 68 cm Atlantis please.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Hugh Smitham 
> wrote:
>
>> I think it's a testament to the Atlantis, how infrequently they go up for
>> sale. They do but folks tend to hang onto them.
>>  On May 30, 2014 10:14 AM, "Michael Fleischman" <
>> michaeljfleisch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think this one sold on eBay a few weeks ago.  The same bike is listed
>>> as a completed item.  Thanks for the heads up.
>>>
>>> Michael
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[RBW] Re: Anyone using Paul Funky Monkey with Nitto Quill?

[Matthew J]

So are you using the 7/8ths, 1" or 1 1/18ths inch?  My question was which 
of the thre works with the Nitto Dirt Drop without being incorporated into 
the spacers.  Turns out that is the 7/8ths.

Which works with Bullmoose? 

On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:09:50 AM UTC-5, Coconutbill wrote:
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> Im using funky monkeys on the Mb-1 attached to the bosco bullmoose... not 
> exactly a quil stem, is it?
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 58cm Atlantis - Got one?

[Curtis McKenzie]

Hugh,

Could you find me a DTT 68 cm Atlantis please.



On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Hugh Smitham 
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> sale. They do but folks tend to hang onto them.
>  On May 30, 2014 10:14 AM, "Michael Fleischman" <
> michaeljfleisch...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I think this one sold on eBay a few weeks ago.  The same bike is listed
>> as a completed item.  Thanks for the heads up.
>>
>> Michael
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 58cm Atlantis - Got one?

[Hugh Smitham]

...and they go pretty quick once up for sale.
On May 30, 2014 11:32 AM, "Hugh Smitham"  wrote:

> I think it's a testament to the Atlantis, how infrequently they go up for
> sale. They do but folks tend to hang onto them.
>  On May 30, 2014 10:14 AM, "Michael Fleischman" <
> michaeljfleisch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think this one sold on eBay a few weeks ago.  The same bike is listed
>> as a completed item.  Thanks for the heads up.
>>
>> Michael
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 58cm Atlantis - Got one?

[Hugh Smitham]

I think it's a testament to the Atlantis, how infrequently they go up for
sale. They do but folks tend to hang onto them.
 On May 30, 2014 10:14 AM, "Michael Fleischman" <
michaeljfleisch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this one sold on eBay a few weeks ago.  The same bike is listed as
> a completed item.  Thanks for the heads up.
>
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Re: [RBW] It looks like now Rivendell stocks the Soma Grand Randonneur tires

[franklyn]

I am with David here. For me the main issue with the $20 CdlVs is their 
width. I am totally down for $20-tire but a little wider. 

franklyn
On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:47:31 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I think Col de la Vie are great tires, although a bit narrow by current 
> standards. I also love Paselas, so am apparently not too picky about tires.
>
>
> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:51:26 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> It is weird that the best tires in the world that fit our 650B bikes are 
>> approaching $100 apiece.  I never would have predicted that back in the 
>> 1980s, that you could spend that much for a clincher tire.  In my opinion, 
>> there's also a diminishing return aspect to it.  I've heard several people 
>> shriek and whine to no end about how bad the $20 col de la vie is, but I 
>> think they ride just fine.  I hope your $60 target continues to yield nice 
>> tires to you.  I really like Lierres at the $60 pricepoint.  I recommend 
>> them.  It seems that the tire situation for 650B is getting better, not 
>> worse.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:16:40 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> $76??  Really???  That's almost as much as my last set of car tires cost 
>>> me per tire with mounting, balancing, sales tax and road hazard included in 
>>> the figure. ($330 out the door with all of the above included).  Plus the 
>>> car tires last a lot longer.
>>>
>>> I know the price is similar to the GB "Extra Leger" and the Compass 
>>> "Ultralights" but geez I am beginning to lament the lack of good tires for 
>>> us working joes.
>>>
>>> I have to admit I am curious about them also but my upper limit for 
>>> tires is $60, I'm drawing a line in the sand right there.  I will continue 
>>> with the Loup Loup Pass non-extralight for $59, which I am glad they still 
>>> offer.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 EXTRA STOUT 

 svelte and s-word 

 I need to wear out some tires so I can try some of these out.  Since 
 they are Somas, it means your local bike shop can sell them to you as 
 well.  

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddle Experience

[Deacon Patrick]

Well, Ron, the used Independence is heading back to Rivet Cycle Works, so 
you might get a deal on it if it's still around and you are fine with a 
slightly used one.

On the QB it's a Phil hub. I run 40/16 as my high, 32/19 as my low. 
Eventually will have a 22t for a bailout gear.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, May 30, 2014 11:47:51 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> thanks for the review - I have a major application an Independence, and 
> it's in my want queue.  I didn't read about your Quickbeam before, my 
> mystake.  Gorgeous bike, is that an IGH?  
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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddle Experience

[Ron Mc]

thanks for the review - I have a major application an Independence, and 
it's in my want queue.  I didn't read about your Quickbeam before, my 
mystake.  Gorgeous bike, is that an IGH?  

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>
> I meant to include this photo album. The black saddle is the Independence, 
> the white is the Diablo:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157643673067593/
>
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Re: [RBW] It looks like now Rivendell stocks the Soma Grand Randonneur tires

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

I think Col de la Vie are great tires, although a bit narrow by current 
standards. I also love Paselas, so am apparently not too picky about tires.


On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:51:26 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> It is weird that the best tires in the world that fit our 650B bikes are 
> approaching $100 apiece.  I never would have predicted that back in the 
> 1980s, that you could spend that much for a clincher tire.  In my opinion, 
> there's also a diminishing return aspect to it.  I've heard several people 
> shriek and whine to no end about how bad the $20 col de la vie is, but I 
> think they ride just fine.  I hope your $60 target continues to yield nice 
> tires to you.  I really like Lierres at the $60 pricepoint.  I recommend 
> them.  It seems that the tire situation for 650B is getting better, not 
> worse.
>
> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:16:40 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> $76??  Really???  That's almost as much as my last set of car tires cost 
>> me per tire with mounting, balancing, sales tax and road hazard included in 
>> the figure. ($330 out the door with all of the above included).  Plus the 
>> car tires last a lot longer.
>>
>> I know the price is similar to the GB "Extra Leger" and the Compass 
>> "Ultralights" but geez I am beginning to lament the lack of good tires for 
>> us working joes.
>>
>> I have to admit I am curious about them also but my upper limit for tires 
>> is $60, I'm drawing a line in the sand right there.  I will continue with 
>> the Loup Loup Pass non-extralight for $59, which I am glad they still offer.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> EXTRA STOUT 
>>>
>>> svelte and s-word 
>>>
>>> I need to wear out some tires so I can try some of these out.  Since 
>>> they are Somas, it means your local bike shop can sell them to you as 
>>> well.  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Father-Son GAP Trip

[Tony DeFilippo]

Thanks Andy!

I'm jealous of your proximity to Ohiopyle, what an amazing place. I imagine 
watching the seasons in that area is wonderful as well.  I have no idea when it 
could happen but it seems like q great place to do a Riv Rally or just a 
camping meet up...

Plenty of good coffee outside locations along that party of the trail to! 

Another gallery... Moving closer to civilization.

http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/05/gap-trip-gallery-5-connellsville-to.html

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Re: [RBW] It looks like now Rivendell stocks the Soma Grand Randonneur tires

[Bill Lindsay]

My Force Field Fatty Rumpkins have that reddish brown sidewall.  :-(  

Now every time I get on the Bombadil I'm going to feel bad that Joe Bernard 
thinks my sidewalls are horrid.  Dude harshed my mellow!  

OK, I'm over it

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:46:06 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It's pricey - and that reddish-brown sidewall is horrid - but I guess you 
> pay for all that Japanese-made not-built-like-a-rock flat protection. I 
> wouldn't spend that kind of money on tires for the amount of casual riding 
> I do, but if I relied on it to get me to work without a flat every day it 
> would be a different story. Put simply, money buys technology, and 
> sometimes technology is good.
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:16:40 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
>> $76??  Really???  That's almost as much as my last set of car tires cost 
>> me per tire with mounting, balancing, sales tax and road hazard included in 
>> the figure. ($330 out the door with all of the above included).  Plus the 
>> car tires last a lot longer.
>>
>> I know the price is similar to the GB "Extra Leger" and the Compass 
>> "Ultralights" but geez I am beginning to lament the lack of good tires for 
>> us working joes.
>>
>> I have to admit I am curious about them also but my upper limit for tires 
>> is $60, I'm drawing a line in the sand right there.  I will continue with 
>> the Loup Loup Pass non-extralight for $59, which I am glad they still offer.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> EXTRA STOUT 
>>>
>>> svelte and s-word 
>>>
>>> I need to wear out some tires so I can try some of these out.  Since 
>>> they are Somas, it means your local bike shop can sell them to you as 
>>> well.  
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[RBW] WTT: Nitto Noodle 46cm for Noodle 42cm

[Ken D]

I recently aquired a gently used set of noodles, and the 46cm is definitely 
too large for my liking.  If anyone would like to trade for the smaller 
model (or a similar bar), give me a holler.

Regards,
Ken D

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[RBW] FS: 2 microshift front derailers

[Zack]

The ones riv used to sell as standard.  switched chainrings, need to switch 
FD.  they have been used but are in great working order.  $20 for each of 
them, including shipping, $35 if you want both!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto R14 Top Rack, Trangia Large Anodized Cookset

[Zack]

all sold!  

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 58cm Atlantis - Got one?

[Michael Fleischman]

I think this one sold on eBay a few weeks ago.  The same bike is listed as 
a completed item.  Thanks for the heads up.  

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO 58cm Atlantis - Got one?

[Rob H.]

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/bik/4470463768.html

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:53:47 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Now Peter, I wasn't implying anything other than if perchance he found a 
> sweet Atlantis then he'd be riding one in less than 5 months. I most 
> heartily agree that 5 months is a drop in the bucket for a quality 
> Rivendell bicycle. 
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Peter Morgano  > wrote:
>
>> What is five months for a bike that can last a lifetime? 
>> On May 30, 2014 1:09 AM, "Hugh Smitham" > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Five month wait.
>>> On May 29, 2014 9:59 PM, "Peter Morgano" >> > wrote:
>>>
 http://www.rivbike.com/Rivendell-Atlantis-p/f-atlantis.htm 


 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Michael Fleischman <
 michaeljf...@gmail.com > wrote:

> Yes, I've been searching.
>
> The one in Monterey is a size 53.  I texted about it awhile back.
>
> Thanks everyone.
>
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[RBW] Re: Headset spacer substitute bell mount

[Anton Tutter]

$5 seems pretty cheap to me.  



On Friday, May 30, 2014 10:17:19 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I just looked again at the VO prices and see that "cheap" meaning "cheaper 
> than VO means, in effect, "trade". So let's say, "to swap?"
>
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have one of either of these he/she would sell cheap or trade 
>> for? For the Ram, to clear up bar space near the stem.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>
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>> never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from 
>> it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
>> * "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to 
>> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind 
>> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into 
>> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your 
>> daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is 
>> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was 
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>> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where 
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>> *  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. 
>> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where 
>> Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of 
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> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where 
> Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of 
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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto R14 Top Rack, Trangia Large Anodized Cookset

['Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Zack-

Are the struts cut on the rack?

-Norm





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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:42 AM
Subject: [RBW] FS: Nitto R14 Top Rack, Trangia Large Anodized Cookset
 


Selling some lightly used stuff.

Nitto Top Rack, 95 Shipped.  

Trangia cookset, anodized aluminum, the big set, with the big trangia kettle.  
110 Shipped.


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[RBW] FS: Nitto R14 Top Rack, Trangia Large Anodized Cookset

[Zack]

Selling some lightly used stuff.

Nitto Top Rack, 95 Shipped.  

Trangia cookset, anodized aluminum, the big set, with the big trangia 
kettle.  110 Shipped.


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[RBW] Re: Anyone using Paul Funky Monkey with Nitto Quill?

[Coconutbill]

Im using funky monkeys on the Mb-1 attached to the bosco bullmoose... not 
exactly a quil stem, is it?

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Re: [RBW] Carradice Duxback Poncho - Opinions?

[Patrick Moore]

Our rain comes mostly in the summer, and when I used my Duxback to commute
15-16 miles 1-way it was too hot. The Carradice nylon poncho wasn't as hot,
but it was (at least, the model I had) was too tight to work well with drop
bars. I went back to the cheap ($20) Campmor, which is both broad and light
and works well enough in the wind. The Campmor also dries much faster than
the Duxback.

Yes, you will get wet from the knees down in a downpour, and from the
shoulders up if you don't have a hat, but shoulder to knee you stay dry --
again, even in a downpour driven by high wind.


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Tim McNamara  wrote:

> My Duxback has been used sparingly (I just don't like riding in the rain,
> period).  They come in two sizes, long and short, and lo those many years
> ago when I bought mine from Rivendell all they stocked was the short.  At
> 6'4" it's not long enough and my butt gets wet the several times I have
> used it.  I have the modern yellow Carradice poncho which is longer but
> have not had occasion to wear it.  Aesthetically I like the Duxback better
> and know several people who have properly sized once; they are enthusiastic
> about them.  When I have worn the Duxback I was surprised that the wind
> resistance penalty was not as bad as I expected, but have not used in it
> windy weather.
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[RBW] Re: Carradice Duxback Poncho - Opinions?

[Mathew Greiner]

Almost but not entirely off topic: There's an entirely entertaining 
documentary called "Bill Cunningham New York" about a fashion photographer 
for the NY Times who rides his bike around the city every day all week 
taking pictures of people on the street. He has done so for 40–50 years. He 
spends a few minutes talking about how to make a poncho from a trash bag 
and tape, saying, "You can buy these, but they get holes, too, and then you 
patch those with tape, so it all ends up looking the same, anyway." 
Different strokes, you know?
 

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:58:29 PM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> I just received mine in the mail, so I realize it's kinda late for 
> opinions... but wanted to hear from others who own one of these ponchos.   
> I tested it on a short ride *(a very short ride, since it wasn't actually 
> raining, and the neighbors were giving me horrified looks...)* It's very 
> nice quality and it feels like riding a well-ventilated tent on wheels.
>
> One thing I definitely noticed; either my head is too big, or the hood is 
> rather short, barely covering my ears, but offering good peripheral vision 
> (unlike most hoods). I was able to get my helmet to fit over the hood, so I 
> think that works for me.   Question:  Do you find this hood effective, or 
> do you just abandon it altogether? Does your face still get soaked using 
> the hood?  Do you wear your helmet over the hood???
>
> Also, with fenders and poncho do you find you still need additional rain 
> protection (like shoes, spats, legs, etc.?)
>
> I've been really disappointed with my GoreTex jacket and pants (hot and 
> sticky), and I never really considered a poncho until I saw the 
> Carradice.  I have to say I'm really impressed with the quality and feel.  
> Can't wait to really test it out (and turn the neighbors faces 
> from horrified to envious).
>
> Peace,
>
> BB
> *"Rain just makes a good ride better"*
>
>

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Re: [RBW] B17/Imperial vs. B17N /Imperial saddles?

[Jeff Lesperance]

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Michael  wrote:

> Do the "N" saddles (narrower versions for freer thigh movement, feel the
> same comfort and fit wise as the regular B17's (except for the more space
> for the thighs to move without rubbing the wings)?
>
> Basically, do they feel pretty much the same?
>
>
My first Brooks was a B17, and it was great, until I started going on
longer rides - anything north of 30 - 40 miles would be problematic for my
thighs and hip joints. I switched to the B17N and found nirvana. The B17N
eliminated any thigh and hip discomfort, and otherwise felt just as
comfortable as the B17 for my sit bones. I think the width of the saddle is
more important to pay attention to, however, to accommodate comfort for
your sit bones - if your anatomy needs the width across the back of the
saddle, but you otherwise have thigh rub, I'd say you should look at lacing
the flaps or cutting and lacing the flaps, instead of just going with a
narrower saddle.

All that being said, I've recently moved to the Brooks Cambium C17, which
is slightly wider than the B17N, but still narrower that the B17, and it's
been feeling pretty great.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

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[RBW] WTB: your old beat-up components

[Christopher Miller Rosales]

Hey All!

I picked up a beautiful 1985 Specialized Sequoia with pristine Suntour 
Superbe/Cyclone components. The bike is an absolute joy to ride and I'm 
making it my every day bike, but I feel guilty using these super high 
polish parts on a commuter. I've decided to box most of the original 
components and put on a more utilitarian group.

Please let me know if you have any of the following in your parts box!

Quill stem 120 - 130mm, 25.4
Crankset -  single or double road, matching front derailleur
Nitto Albatross or similar upright bar
Short Pull Levers
Thumb shifters - friction/7/8 speed
Commuter wheelset, 700c 130mm cassette


I'm looking for quality, but ugly components - like old beat-up XT. Thank 
you all for the help on building my new bike, message me if you have 
anything. I can't wait to make this my budget commuter Rivendell! Will post 
pics when done.

Best,

Chris
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: Recently joined the group; and now a new Riv [frame] owner

[Victoria]

Wow,  they are rare. Scary to order without sitting on one!  I may have to 
cross state lines to fine one. 

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:02:22 AM UTC-4, frank_a wrote:
>
>  Victoria,
>  Sorry, no Rivendell mixtes in the garage. I've never seen one down here 
> either. 
>  - Frank
>   
>
> On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:15:55 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> Just over an hour ago, I snagged the last Sam Hillborne frame from Riv at 
>> the sale price; I'm going to wait on the build a bit and think over drops, 
>> moustaches, or albies, but am leaning towards the albatross bars as 
>> something new for me.  But really, I can't wait to try the new ride.  Much 
>> appreciation to this welcoming group. Any Riv riders in South Florida?  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Double TT Atlantis and magic bars

[Mathew Greiner]

Awesome looking bike. And is that a Pass & Stow rack? How long have you had 
that and how do you like it?

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 10:48:10 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote:
>
> So I am lucky to have recently acquired a Double top tuber Atlantis from 
> Riv, size SixtyFour, I had a 61cm, and it always felt a tad small,  im 89.7 
> PBH.   So in ordering the SixtyFour, I thought heck,  why not throw another 
> tube in there.   The bike is  perfect for the riding I enjoy. Part two of 
> this story is the bars I decided to go with.   I am an upright bar rider, 
>  I have 4 bikes and all of them have some variation of swept back bars. 
>  After some interwebs searching and general research, I came across the 
> Wald 872s.   I would describe them as a more mountainy Albatross bar.   
> Theyre 60cm wide vs. 56, The angle of the grip is canted out more, they 
> rise a little higher and they accept bar end shifters!   They just feel a 
> tad better for rougher stuff than Albas.  My only wish is that the grip 
> area was a bit longer,  but they sure are some sweet bars and MUSA! 
>  Attached pic 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Five Ten (5.10) Freerider shoes, M11, $50 plus shipping

[Christian]

SOLD 

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:27:59 AM UTC-4, Christian wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I love these shoes for riding with my VP Vice/Thin Gripster pedals.  They 
> incredibly grippy and plenty stiff for all day riding.   But I bought 'em 
> too small.  They're in great shape, if a little dirty.  I've already 
> ordered a new pair.  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/sets/72157644846188516/
>
> Thanks for looking 
>
> Christian 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Father-Son GAP Trip

[ascpgh]

Tony- I really like that part of the trail as well and am fortunate that it 
is the most accessible to my location. Love riding from home to Ohiopyle 
for an overnight, dinner at one of the restaurants, pancakes in the morning 
at the corner market with that bridge framed by the windows. Lots of the 
river guides will catch a warm meal there to start their day on the river 
having walked down the mountain from their tent village...they're usually 
the ones reading interesting books while their order is being cooked. 
Always surprises me how from so far and away those folks come for the 
summer work. Adds to the experience.

The railroad now operates on the other side of the Youghiogheny River so 
engineers continue to have those views of rock walls and straight poplars. 
Ohiopyle was a mill town powered by that waterfall in front of town. 
Visitors center by the trail has some great pictures from back in the those 
days. 

Your most excellent pictures and narrative have me all wound up for another 
trip, and my orange Rambouillet, while in design is a bit more specialized 
than a Saluki, has been a great ride to cover those miles and see those 
sights.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 10:43:41 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Steve - It sure is,  really demonstrates its versatility.  I never got 
> close to stressing out the bike on this trip, and I never had to worry 
> about it.
>
> Patrick - The river was so impressive, and the waterfalls coming down from 
> the left of the trail were the same.  We got quite the treat to see an 
> extreme personality of the trail.  And thanks on the cliff-trail-poplars 
> shot, that little section was one of my absolute favorites.  I kept 
> thinking what it must have been like for those train engineers plying 
> through this path all those years ago...
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> Tony, that trail sure does look inviting. That is one swollen, huge 
>> river. Wow. I love the shot of the cliff, trail, and straight-edge grown 
>> poplars. Thanks!
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick  
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