Re: [RBW] Copper bottles??

[Ron Mc]

I wish I had one of those this morning.  Riding down to meet my friends who 
have set up their RVs at a KOA on the cross-town greenway trail, and of 
course have their bikes.  My buddy homebrews (buys Russian River "parts" 
and homebrews real Pliny), kegs in 5-gal soda cans, and has this portable 
draft stand.  



It would be cool to draw my Pliny into a my own copper stein that came from 
my water bottle cage.  

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[RBW] Re: Cross/knobby 650B tires

[El Sapo]

I'm on the other end of the problem. Where are the 650b plus size road tires? 
There are plenty of knobby offerings in the 2" - 2.35" size but nothing like 
the big apple isn't one and neither are the supremes. Anyone have suggestions? 
I ride paved trails. 

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[RBW] Re: I rode my Clem yesterday...

['Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I am 6'6" and was skeptical that it would fit somebody of our height. I am 
glad it worked out for you and would be interested in seeing pictures of 
your set up once you get it presentable.


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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Jonathan in Ri]

Shipping details arrived via email today. My Clem will get here next Friday

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne Frame Size 55 (Blue/Cream) - LIKE NEW - (frame/fork/headset/BB/seat post)

[RDS]

The frame and all contents are boxed up and ready to be shipped.

On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 9:36:23 AM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>
> Last week I purchased a Blue/Cream 55 Hillborne Frame from one of Riv's 
> dealers in New York (Yellow Haus - very impressed with them).  I am on the 
> borderline between sizes and the sizing just didn't work out as planned.  I 
> am so bummed out as it is a beautiful frame.  The bike has been partially 
> built, but never ridden.
>
> *As I received it, included is the frame, fork, headset, BB (107), and 
> seatpost.  I should have some pics available tomorrow.  *
>
> I installed the fork, BB (not the one that came with the frame), seatpost 
> (not the one that came with the frame), stem with bars, and wheels.  Then I 
> stood over the bike checking the sizing, etc and came to the depressing 
> realization that this frame was not going to work for me.  Depressing.  I 
> DID NOT install a crank or derailer's or brakes or any cables.  I just did 
> enough to see how the sizing would work.  I installed the BB in 
> anticipation of it fitting.  I will disassemble what I have done and 
> attempt to ship it as it was shipped to me. 
>
> *I realize that I will have to take a loss on the frame.  I paid $1,300 
> plus shipping.  I am willing to sell it for $1,100 and I will pay for 
> shipping.  I will only sell and ship to the USA 48 contiguous states.  
> Paypal for payment.*
>
> I had also purchased a set of the Tektro R559 recessed brakes for this 
> frame.  I will sell them for an additional $25 if interested.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne Frame Size 55 (Blue/Cream) - LIKE NEW - (frame/fork/headset/BB/seat post)

[RDS]

I will leave this listing in the RBW Onwer's bunch a few more days.  I will 
listen to any offer's as I have a Clem on the way.
I will ship to the 48 US States using www.shipbikes.com service.

On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 9:36:23 AM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>
> Last week I purchased a Blue/Cream 55 Hillborne Frame from one of Riv's 
> dealers in New York (Yellow Haus - very impressed with them).  I am on the 
> borderline between sizes and the sizing just didn't work out as planned.  I 
> am so bummed out as it is a beautiful frame.  The bike has been partially 
> built, but never ridden.
>
> *As I received it, included is the frame, fork, headset, BB (107), and 
> seatpost.  I should have some pics available tomorrow.  *
>
> I installed the fork, BB (not the one that came with the frame), seatpost 
> (not the one that came with the frame), stem with bars, and wheels.  Then I 
> stood over the bike checking the sizing, etc and came to the depressing 
> realization that this frame was not going to work for me.  Depressing.  I 
> DID NOT install a crank or derailer's or brakes or any cables.  I just did 
> enough to see how the sizing would work.  I installed the BB in 
> anticipation of it fitting.  I will disassemble what I have done and 
> attempt to ship it as it was shipped to me. 
>
> *I realize that I will have to take a loss on the frame.  I paid $1,300 
> plus shipping.  I am willing to sell it for $1,100 and I will pay for 
> shipping.  I will only sell and ship to the USA 48 contiguous states.  
> Paypal for payment.*
>
> I had also purchased a set of the Tektro R559 recessed brakes for this 
> frame.  I will sell them for an additional $25 if interested.
>

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[RBW] FS 54 Hunqapillar

[Miles]

 I have recently found out that we have our first child on the way and in 
preparation, this beautiful bike will be sold. Interested parties please reply 
privately and I will offer details and we can discuss the price.

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[RBW] Re: The Mysterious Homer

[Cyclofiend Jim]

I have one of the early Homers, built by Toyo.  It's a 59.  I ride it 
everywhere.

Back a while ago, Brian Eno was interviewed and spoke his ideal band.  He 
cited the melodic sense and attention to timbre of Kraftwerk, mated to the 
rhythm section of Parliament/Funkadelic.  Arguably, he got close during the 
"Stop Making Sense/Remain In Light" period of Talking Heads.  

That idea has always been how the Hilsen feels to me.  

Perhaps the more appropriate analogy would be a Ferrari with Hummer 
suspension.  When GP was riding the East Bay Hills on the bike which was 
not named Honus Wagner 
- 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeromehaines/189470883/in/album-72157594198990353/
 
- 32 mm on a "road" tire was pretty honkin' big. (...and the 650B was 
fairly fringe, and GP had recently self-stitched a 603 together to 
experiment).  

At the time, I was doing CX races, and really wanted to see about obtaining 
a Legolas.  I wanted some lever-shiftable gears as an alternative to the 
Quickbeamm which I was riding everywhere and enjoying much, much more than 
my multi-geared, soft-nosed mtb. When I visited the RBWHQ&L, Grant  pushed 
me out on this new bike, on tires which he warned me were "too small" 
(Rolly Polly 28's) and I came back a believer.  Since I'd been riding my 
CX-specific bike on mixed-terrain rides,  I had something to compare it to. 
 The Hilsen just outclassed that bike, handled better and gave me a much 
more comfortable ride. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157602016418451/

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc522-cyclofiend_jim0908.html

I rode, raced (CX), centuried and brevet-ed with the Homer, and do not 
think anything of riding it from A to B with strong vectors toward any 
terrain that interests me.  I'm kinda partial to JB Greens.  Though I've 
run knibblies on it as well.  But, I like the ride with the JB's, and the 
aesthetic of running them on trails, rocks and whatever. 

As far as the Sam, I do recall when Grant was tweaking that design.  My 
recollection is that he viewed it a notch closer to Atlantis than the 
Hilsen, mostly because they had the Roadeo/San Marcos, which a notch the 
other way.  Like many things, the design itself suggests refinements, and 
he's always thinking about how to make something more of whatever it is. 

As with most of Grant's designs, the tuning, the tweaking and the 
refinements are all for you to do.  What you'll find is that whatever idea 
you might have, you can probably do it with the Hilsen.

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

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[RBW] Re: For Sale - Bicycle Quarterly Issues

[John]

2014 and 2015 issues are still available.  $35 for all 6 issues shipping 
included.

On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 3:59:33 PM UTC-6, John wrote:
>
> Time to clear off the bookshelf and share these great magazines with 
> somebody else.  I've got 4 complete years (2011 - 2014) and two partial 
> years (2010 and 2015).  All in good, once-read condition.  Prices, 
> including media mail shipping to CONUS addresses, are as follows:
>
> 2010  3 issues (Summer, Autumn, Winter) $19
>
> 2011  4 issues $25
>
> 2012  4 issues $25
>
> 2013  4 issues $25
>
> 2014  4 issues $25
>
> 2015  2 issues (Spring, Summer) $13
>
> Please contact me off-line (lindbergjohn at hotmail dot com) if you're 
> interested.
>
> Thanks.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

[Doug Van Cleve]

Howdy folks.

I aluded to this in my post yesterday, but the original Rivendells, the
Road Standard,  were spec built by Waterford.  I don't think they were
"custom" at all the first few years, same goes for the original All
'Rounder, mountainbike (might have only been Waterford)and possibly
LongLow.  At some point you could customize, and production shifted to Joe
Starck and then match.  The Heron and Heron Touring were before any of the
Toyo built models and were again made by Waterford.  I am sure some other
old timers or scribes who want to delve through the old Readers can flesh
that out more, but I am pretty sure that chronology is correct.

Regards, Doug

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Beth H  wrote:

> Riv all-rounder 1996 through 1999-2000 (succeeded by Atlantis around that
> time)
>
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[RBW] Re: Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on Bosco Bars?

[BSWP]

Sweet! Interruptors and Horns, a very nice cockpit for every riding 
position and stance.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 2:04:12 PM UTC-8, jtallman wrote:
>
> Doug,
>
> I have them on my bosco bars. I just used some Newbaum's bar tape to take 
> up the space and they have worked fine.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/e2PjbY
>
> Jon
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 10:05:44 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking of putting Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on my 
>> Bosco Bars. Riv says that they don't fit Bosco's because the clamp diameter 
>> of the bars is 22.2mm and the Interrupter levers are designed for a 24.0 
>> clamp diameter bars. But...really? Can't I just add a wrap or two of 
>> friction tape to the bars before I put on the Tektro Brake RL720 
>> Interrupter Levers? What about just putting them on over the bar wrap? (I 
>> use shellacked Newbaums)
>>
>> Has anyone had success with the Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on 
>> Bosco's? Are there other good interrupter levers that work with Bosco's?
>>
>> Doug
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: The Mysterious Homer

[John Hawrylak]

What is the diameter and wall thickness of the main tubes?  Could not find 
it on Cyclofiends's website or Rivendell

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 5:51:40 AM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:

> Many other Rivs get a lot of press here, but I really haven't heard much 
> on the Homer. Curious about the ride of this bike - it's liveliness as 
> compared to an Atlantis or Hillborne. Is its tubing relatively lighter? Is 
> it a softer feel? Is it more beautiful?
>
> Considering one as my all round dirt road bike and looking for something 
> springy with centerpulls and clearance for 38s with fenders.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Tony DeFilippo]

http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/11/clem-complete.html

Erika's bike is functionally complete, time to go for a ride.  Glamour 
shots alongside it's inspiration in build-up, my Saluki-commuter.  I love 
how versatile the 52cm Clementine is, I find it perfectly comfortable with 
just a seatpost adjustment to ride it and so does my wife (5'5" vs 6'0"). 
 That's a huge plus.  Only wrinkle in the good feelings is I broke off a 
screw in one of the rear braze ons, then broke of a drill bit trying to 
remove it...  lesson learned is that all threads need to be chased before 
use on my Clementine at least.  I had a fairly significant amount of paint 
that needed removing.  Luckily their's 4 sets of braze on's back there...

Off for a ride to a late lunch on these two bikes!

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Tony DeFilippo]

I meant to add a picture as well;




On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 2:13:12 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/11/clem-complete.html
>
> Erika's bike is functionally complete, time to go for a ride.  Glamour 
> shots alongside it's inspiration in build-up, my Saluki-commuter.  I love 
> how versatile the 52cm Clementine is, I find it perfectly comfortable with 
> just a seatpost adjustment to ride it and so does my wife (5'5" vs 6'0"). 
>  That's a huge plus.  Only wrinkle in the good feelings is I broke off a 
> screw in one of the rear braze ons, then broke of a drill bit trying to 
> remove it...  lesson learned is that all threads need to be chased before 
> use on my Clementine at least.  I had a fairly significant amount of paint 
> that needed removing.  Luckily their's 4 sets of braze on's back there...
>
> Off for a ride to a late lunch on these two bikes!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cross/knobby 650B tires

[Tim Gavin]

Schwalbe has greatly expanded their 650b offerings.
50 mm 650b Big Ben for $60/pair shipped to the US
,
wire bead, 745g
50 mm 650b Marathon Supreme for $95/pair shipped to the US
,
folding bead, tubeless-ready, 600g.
They also have Marathon 44 mm

and Marathon Plus 40 mm

tires, but those are pretty heavy.

The 48 mm Compass Switchback Hill tires

would ride great, but are pretty expensive.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:05 AM, El Sapo 
wrote:

> I'm on the other end of the problem. Where are the 650b plus size road
> tires? There are plenty of knobby offerings in the 2" - 2.35" size but
> nothing like the big apple isn't one and neither are the supremes. Anyone
> have suggestions? I ride paved trails.
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[RBW] Re: Pink Rivendell All-Rounder for sale

[Patrick Shea]

Posting for a friend:
>
> Rivendell All Rounder for sale. One of a kind. Waterford built when they
> were building All Rounders.
>
> Yes, a Waterford-built Rivendell All Rounder needs a new home. The
> geometry is custom as is the pinkish metal flake paint. Specs in inches due
> to lack of metric tape measure:
>
> ht= 6"
> st c-c=19.75 - 20"  c-t= 21" (to top of lug point)
> tt= 21.25"
> wb= 40"
> standover at center of tt= 30.5"
>
> Wheels: 26" Mavic 117 32 spokes, 3x, brass nipples, Deore XT hubs
> Tires: in great shape, Nimbus 26x1.50, barely used
> Cantis: Deore XT
> Crank: Sugino triple, 165mm (not sure of ring numbers)
> Pedals; Ritchey WCS gold
> Stem: Look Ergostem, dials in the fit
> Bars: Ritchey 40cm
> Drivetrain: 9-speed Campy Record Ergo levers, Campy Racing T f/d, Campy
> Racing T long r/d (Sold as Record level parts)
> Brooks women's saddle, not even broken in
>
>  Everything is nice and works fine.
>
> $1,000obo. Prefer Bay Area pick-up but will ship for cost of packing,
> shipping from a pro shop.
>

Please contact off-list at pinkriv4s...@gmail.com


>
> Pics: https://www.flickr.com/gp/137681734@N02/ZE832E
>
> Cheers,
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] It was a nice day for...

[JohnS]

1. A ride on the QB - The forecast for Thursday was for 70% chance of 
precipitation, so a good excuse not to paint the exterior trim around our 
front door.
 
2. Fenders - There was a chance for light rain but not down pours, so on 
went the fenders. I had taken them off back in the spring when I mounted 
the folding Pasela tires on the QB. Didn't need them until now.
 
3. Wool socks - The fenders kept most of the rain from splashing up on me, 
but my feet still got wet. None the less, the wool socks did the job at 
keeping my feet comfortable.
 
4. Light weight rain coat - When I started the ride it wasn't raining, so 
this simple rain coat from LL Bean folds up and is easily stored in the 
Shop Sack. I had to put it on about 5 miles into the ride when it went from 
a light drizzle to a steady light rain. I wore it for about another 5 miles 
when it stopped, just before a long gradual climb, off it came, a quick 
shake to get the water off and back into the Shop Sack it went. I wore it 
again near the end of the ride when the drizzle picked up again.
 
5. Tail light - this is a strap on Bontrager which uses a USB cable to 
connect to my laptop for charging. I like how it has a low and high setting 
for each of the modes. I went with the steady flash in the high beam 
setting when it was raining.
 
6. Cycle cap - This one is also from Bontrager, LBS is Trek dealer so they 
have a good selection of Bontrager accessories. It fits under my helmet 
comfortably and the flaps can be folded up to expose my ears to help 
regulate my body temp.
 
7. Post ride hot shower, dry clothes and hot coffee - Goes with out saying, 
but after 38 miles of cool damp/wet riding, they felt great!
 
Moral of the story, try not to let a little rain stop you from getting out 
for a great ride. Just be prepared and enjoy the time in the saddle!
 
JohnS
 

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[RBW] Re: Cross/knobby 650B tires

[Mike Schiller]

Schwalbe has a 60 mm wide 650B tire coming out called the Big one.  Shallow 
micro knobs so it should do fine on pavement and gravel.  

The Vee Rubber Speedster is a 650B  x 1.95 tire that is another smoother 
conditions tire They measure about 47 mm on a Dyad.

~mike
Carlsbad Ca

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 8:05:52 AM UTC-8, El Sapo wrote:
>
> I'm on the other end of the problem. Where are the 650b plus size road 
> tires? There are plenty of knobby offerings in the 2" - 2.35" size but 
> nothing like the big apple isn't one and neither are the supremes. Anyone 
> have suggestions? I ride paved trails. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

[Hugh Smitham]

Here's ride #7 well kinda,

Read about it here 

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

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On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Hi Doug!
>
> Neglected?? Who's saying that?? I wouldn't say that. Stay tuned :^))
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:11 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
>> Your Rivs aren't feeling neglected are they?  :)
>>
>> doug
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 9:26:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Strange Mike your comment never made it to my email?
>>>
>>> I'm resisting the impulse :^)
>>>
>>> Tail Winds,
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[William R.]

I envy you folks that live within visiting range of Riv. If any one goes to 
test ride that proto-Appaloosa, it would be great to hear your thoughts on it. 
You could probably test Sams for size and Cheviots for the long chain stay ride 
quality and get a good feel for it that way too. Any additional info they gave 
you would certainly be welcome here.

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

[Chad]

My second-hand Bombadil has a Waterford build date of Oct. 2008 and I believe 
it was one of the first batch.  I think they started shipping in Nov. 2008.

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[RBW] Re: Pink Rivendell All-Rounder for sale

[jeffrey kane]

What would you say the max. tire width would be?

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 2:50:38 PM UTC-5, Patrick Shea wrote:
>
>
>
> Posting for a friend:
>>
>> Rivendell All Rounder for sale. One of a kind. Waterford built when they 
>> were building All Rounders.
>>
>> Yes, a Waterford-built Rivendell All Rounder needs a new home. The 
>> geometry is custom as is the pinkish metal flake paint. Specs in inches due 
>> to lack of metric tape measure:
>>
>> ht= 6"
>> st c-c=19.75 - 20"  c-t= 21" (to top of lug point)
>> tt= 21.25"
>> wb= 40"
>> standover at center of tt= 30.5"
>>
>> Wheels: 26" Mavic 117 32 spokes, 3x, brass nipples, Deore XT hubs
>> Tires: in great shape, Nimbus 26x1.50, barely used
>> Cantis: Deore XT
>> Crank: Sugino triple, 165mm (not sure of ring numbers)
>> Pedals; Ritchey WCS gold
>> Stem: Look Ergostem, dials in the fit
>> Bars: Ritchey 40cm
>> Drivetrain: 9-speed Campy Record Ergo levers, Campy Racing T f/d, Campy 
>> Racing T long r/d (Sold as Record level parts)
>> Brooks women's saddle, not even broken in
>>
>>  Everything is nice and works fine.
>>
>> $1,000obo. Prefer Bay Area pick-up but will ship for cost of packing, 
>> shipping from a pro shop.
>>
>
> Please contact off-list at pinkri...@gmail.com 
>  
>
>>
>> Pics: https://www.flickr.com/gp/137681734@N02/ZE832E
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Patrick 
>>
>
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[RBW] Velocity Cliffhanger 650B Rim experience?

[Tony DeFilippo]

Forgive the cross post from 650b... since it's for the Bomba I figure it's 
fair to share.  By the velocity description it seems like this is a very 
Riv-ish rim and the price from Velocity is just about the same as the Atlas 
which Riv is selling.

I'm thinking about a new wheelset for my Bombadil, aimed at Schwable Nobby 
Nic's (2.25), Furious Fred's (2.1) or possibly the 48mm Compass EL tires at 
some point.  I like Velocity rims and have used the synergy, dyad and A23 
to date.  Only the early edition synergy's have given me any grief and I 
particularly liked a 700c wheelset I built up w/ the Dyads.  Anyway... I 
was perusing velocity's site and saw these big honkin Cliffhanger rims;

http://store.velocityusa.com/p/cliffhanger-27-5/rims_touring_650b?pp=12

I'm deciding between these and the Atlas, Synergy or 650B Dyad's... oh and 
I'm only going for 36H rims which is why I grugingly passed on all those 
great deals on the Pacenti rims recently.  I need rim brake compatibility 
due to the Bombadil/Saluki bikes but I'll be throwing 6 bolt disc capable 
hubs in them (shimano deore level) in case I ever take the opportunity to 
dabble in those waters... :)

Any thoughts?

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[RBW] Re: FS 54 Hunqapillar

[Wayne Naha]

Congratulations!

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 11:33:40 AM UTC-5, Miles wrote:
>
> I have recently found out that we have our first child on the way and in 
> preparation, this beautiful bike will be sold. Interested parties please 
> reply privately and I will offer details and we can discuss the price.

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Re: [RBW] Velocity Cliffhanger 650B Rim experience?

[Tim Gavin]

The Cliffhanger seems like a great rim for a Bomba.  They're 5 mm wider
than the Atlas or A23, and not much heavier.

The 2.1 Thunder Burt would be a good tire to try as well.  They're
in-between the Schwalbe knobbies and the Compass tires you referenced, as
far as speed and traction.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> Forgive the cross post from 650b... since it's for the Bomba I figure it's
> fair to share.  By the velocity description it seems like this is a very
> Riv-ish rim and the price from Velocity is just about the same as the Atlas
> which Riv is selling.
>
> I'm thinking about a new wheelset for my Bombadil, aimed at Schwable Nobby
> Nic's (2.25), Furious Fred's (2.1) or possibly the 48mm Compass EL tires at
> some point.  I like Velocity rims and have used the synergy, dyad and A23
> to date.  Only the early edition synergy's have given me any grief and I
> particularly liked a 700c wheelset I built up w/ the Dyads.  Anyway... I
> was perusing velocity's site and saw these big honkin Cliffhanger rims;
>
> http://store.velocityusa.com/p/cliffhanger-27-5/rims_touring_650b?pp=12
>
> I'm deciding between these and the Atlas, Synergy or 650B Dyad's... oh and
> I'm only going for 36H rims which is why I grugingly passed on all those
> great deals on the Pacenti rims recently.  I need rim brake compatibility
> due to the Bombadil/Saluki bikes but I'll be throwing 6 bolt disc capable
> hubs in them (shimano deore level) in case I ever take the opportunity to
> dabble in those waters... :)
>
> Any thoughts?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

[Hugh Smitham]

And if that one wasn't enough here's

another and the last of these posts for this year's Coffeeneuring Challenge
of 2015.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipeedemusings.com/



On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Here's ride #7 well kinda,
>
> Read about it here 
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Hugh Smitham 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Doug!
>>
>> Neglected?? Who's saying that?? I wouldn't say that. Stay tuned :^))
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:11 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>
>>> Your Rivs aren't feeling neglected are they?  :)
>>>
>>> doug
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 9:26:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Strange Mike your comment never made it to my email?

 I'm resisting the impulse :^)

 Tail Winds,

 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Velocity Cliffhanger 650B Rim experience?

[Tim Gavin]

Thunder Burt 2.25"

or 2.1"
,
tubeless ready.  The Cliffhanger rims seem to be tubeless-ready as well.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> The Cliffhanger seems like a great rim for a Bomba.  They're 5 mm wider
> than the Atlas or A23, and not much heavier.
>
> The 2.1 Thunder Burt would be a good tire to try as well.  They're
> in-between the Schwalbe knobbies and the Compass tires you referenced, as
> far as speed and traction.
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:
>
>> Forgive the cross post from 650b... since it's for the Bomba I figure
>> it's fair to share.  By the velocity description it seems like this is a
>> very Riv-ish rim and the price from Velocity is just about the same as the
>> Atlas which Riv is selling.
>>
>> I'm thinking about a new wheelset for my Bombadil, aimed at Schwable
>> Nobby Nic's (2.25), Furious Fred's (2.1) or possibly the 48mm Compass EL
>> tires at some point.  I like Velocity rims and have used the synergy, dyad
>> and A23 to date.  Only the early edition synergy's have given me any grief
>> and I particularly liked a 700c wheelset I built up w/ the Dyads.
>> Anyway... I was perusing velocity's site and saw these big honkin
>> Cliffhanger rims;
>>
>> http://store.velocityusa.com/p/cliffhanger-27-5/rims_touring_650b?pp=12
>>
>> I'm deciding between these and the Atlas, Synergy or 650B Dyad's... oh
>> and I'm only going for 36H rims which is why I grugingly passed on all
>> those great deals on the Pacenti rims recently.  I need rim brake
>> compatibility due to the Bombadil/Saluki bikes but I'll be throwing 6 bolt
>> disc capable hubs in them (shimano deore level) in case I ever take the
>> opportunity to dabble in those waters... :)
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mount Diablo trails ride

[David Stein]

Thanks for the insight Jim! I definitely don't need to go to the top,
Juniper might be as far as I need to go if even that. Mostly just looking
to explore the trails as a first time thing.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jim M.  wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 9:26:06 AM UTC-8, dstein wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm looking at three on Bay Area Rides: Mitchell Canyon to the top,
>> Mothers/Diablo Ranch/Buckeye Trails, and Oyster Point trail. I'm assuming
>> these are all fire roads?
>>
>>
> Well, no one else has jumped in so I will. They are not all fire roads.
> Oyster Point is, in fact, all single track. The other rides also include
> some single track. Riding trails all the way to the top of Diablo is
> challenging. There are some very steep grades (30% or more) with loose
> surfaces.
>
> But I am in no way discouraging any of these rides. Just be prepared for
> some walking (which itself can be difficult on some of the trails), and for
> the ride to probably take longer than you estimate. I'd also advise taking
> some food to prevent bonk.
>
> jim m
> foot of mt diablo, ca
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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

So, was this ride yesterday (Friday the 13th)?



On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 6:54:57 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>
> And if that one wasn't enough here's 
> 
>  
> another and the last of these posts for this year's Coffeeneuring Challenge 
> of 2015.
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Hugh Smitham  > wrote:
>
>> Here's ride #7 well kinda,
>>
>> Read about it here 
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Hugh Smitham > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doug!
>>>
>>> Neglected?? Who's saying that?? I wouldn't say that. Stay tuned :^))
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:11 PM, dougP 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
 Your Rivs aren't feeling neglected are they?  :)

 doug


 On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 9:26:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Strange Mike your comment never made it to my email?
>
> I'm resisting the impulse :^)
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

[Hugh Smitham]

Haha Chris it sure was! Dude I'm so obtuse. I didn't even think about that.
Thanks for pointing that.
On Nov 14, 2015 5:50 PM, "'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> So, was this ride yesterday (Friday the 13th)?
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 6:54:57 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> And if that one wasn't enough here's
>> 
>> another and the last of these posts for this year's Coffeeneuring Challenge
>> of 2015.
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>
>>> Here's ride #7 well kinda,
>>>
>>> Read about it here 
>>>
>>> Tail Winds,
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Hugh Smitham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Doug!

 Neglected?? Who's saying that?? I wouldn't say that. Stay tuned :^))

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipeedemusings.com/



 On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:11 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Your Rivs aren't feeling neglected are they?  :)
>
> doug
>
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 9:26:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Strange Mike your comment never made it to my email?
>>
>> I'm resisting the impulse :^)
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
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Re: [RBW] Velocity Cliffhanger 650B Rim experience?

[Ryan Ray]

Atlas rims are not tubeless ready right?

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 4:57:35 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Thunder Burt 2.25" 
> 
>  
> or 2.1" 
> ,
>  
> tubeless ready.  The Cliffhanger rims seem to be tubeless-ready as well.
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Tim Gavin  > wrote:
>
>> The Cliffhanger seems like a great rim for a Bomba.  They're 5 mm wider 
>> than the Atlas or A23, and not much heavier.
>>
>> The 2.1 Thunder Burt would be a good tire to try as well.  They're 
>> in-between the Schwalbe knobbies and the Compass tires you referenced, as 
>> far as speed and traction.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Tony DeFilippo > > wrote:
>>
>>> Forgive the cross post from 650b... since it's for the Bomba I figure 
>>> it's fair to share.  By the velocity description it seems like this is a 
>>> very Riv-ish rim and the price from Velocity is just about the same as the 
>>> Atlas which Riv is selling.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking about a new wheelset for my Bombadil, aimed at Schwable 
>>> Nobby Nic's (2.25), Furious Fred's (2.1) or possibly the 48mm Compass EL 
>>> tires at some point.  I like Velocity rims and have used the synergy, dyad 
>>> and A23 to date.  Only the early edition synergy's have given me any grief 
>>> and I particularly liked a 700c wheelset I built up w/ the Dyads.  
>>> Anyway... I was perusing velocity's site and saw these big honkin 
>>> Cliffhanger rims;
>>>
>>> http://store.velocityusa.com/p/cliffhanger-27-5/rims_touring_650b?pp=12
>>>
>>> I'm deciding between these and the Atlas, Synergy or 650B Dyad's... oh 
>>> and I'm only going for 36H rims which is why I grugingly passed on all 
>>> those great deals on the Pacenti rims recently.  I need rim brake 
>>> compatibility due to the Bombadil/Saluki bikes but I'll be throwing 6 bolt 
>>> disc capable hubs in them (shimano deore level) in case I ever take the 
>>> opportunity to dabble in those waters... :)
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
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[RBW] Re: Pink Rivendell All-Rounder for sale

[Ryan Ray]

1000 obo for a ride-ready 531 Riv with an awesome paint job.

Sold already right?
 

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 3:15:49 PM UTC-8, jeffrey kane wrote:
>
> What would you say the max. tire width would be?
>
> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 2:50:38 PM UTC-5, Patrick Shea wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Posting for a friend:
>>>
>>> Rivendell All Rounder for sale. One of a kind. Waterford built when they 
>>> were building All Rounders.
>>>
>>> Yes, a Waterford-built Rivendell All Rounder needs a new home. The 
>>> geometry is custom as is the pinkish metal flake paint. Specs in inches due 
>>> to lack of metric tape measure:
>>>
>>> ht= 6"
>>> st c-c=19.75 - 20"  c-t= 21" (to top of lug point)
>>> tt= 21.25"
>>> wb= 40"
>>> standover at center of tt= 30.5"
>>>
>>> Wheels: 26" Mavic 117 32 spokes, 3x, brass nipples, Deore XT hubs
>>> Tires: in great shape, Nimbus 26x1.50, barely used
>>> Cantis: Deore XT
>>> Crank: Sugino triple, 165mm (not sure of ring numbers)
>>> Pedals; Ritchey WCS gold
>>> Stem: Look Ergostem, dials in the fit
>>> Bars: Ritchey 40cm
>>> Drivetrain: 9-speed Campy Record Ergo levers, Campy Racing T f/d, Campy 
>>> Racing T long r/d (Sold as Record level parts)
>>> Brooks women's saddle, not even broken in
>>>
>>>  Everything is nice and works fine.
>>>
>>> $1,000obo. Prefer Bay Area pick-up but will ship for cost of packing, 
>>> shipping from a pro shop.
>>>
>>
>> Please contact off-list at pinkri...@gmail.com
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> Pics: https://www.flickr.com/gp/137681734@N02/ZE832E
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Patrick 
>>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Velocity Cliffhanger 650B Rim experience?

[Ryan Ray]

My only complaint about Velocity rims is that you can't really tell which 
rim is for what. They all seem to be for touring/trekking/offroad/on-road 
whatever.

For example the Atlas is listed in Road, Touring, Cross. Others are listed 
in multiple categories too. The Cliffhanger is in Mountain and Touring but 
so is the Dyad and the Chukker.

I went with Atlas 32 hole 650b for my city/gravel/overnighter bike but 
honestly I have no idea why.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

[Don Compton]

Hugh.
Great read. You sure like climbing.
Thanks, Don

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 4:54:57 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> And if that one wasn't enough here's 
> 
>  
> another and the last of these posts for this year's Coffeeneuring Challenge 
> of 2015.
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Hugh Smitham  > wrote:
>
>> Here's ride #7 well kinda,
>>
>> Read about it here 
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Hugh Smitham > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doug!
>>>
>>> Neglected?? Who's saying that?? I wouldn't say that. Stay tuned :^))
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:11 PM, dougP 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
 Your Rivs aren't feeling neglected are they?  :)

 doug


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> Strange Mike your comment never made it to my email?
>
> I'm resisting the impulse :^)
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Surlyprof]

Ted,

Did you make it up to Riv HQ to try the Joe?  Anything to report?



On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 9:21:39 AM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>
> Thinking of heading up there today myself. Given the blug and presale 
> photos I assume they have at least one prototype JA there, though I don't 
> think the prototypes have the fork crown and long chainstays that the 
> production ones will have.
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 8:09:39 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if they have JA prototypes at HQ?  Was thinking about 
>> heading up there to check it out.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:42:09 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great 
>>> bike. The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and 
>>> order one? I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!
>>>
>>> I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks Don.

Regarding climbing, do I have a choice?

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
On Nov 14, 2015 7:34 PM, "Don Compton"  wrote:

> Hugh.
> Great read. You sure like climbing.
> Thanks, Don
>
> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 4:54:57 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> And if that one wasn't enough here's
>> 
>> another and the last of these posts for this year's Coffeeneuring Challenge
>> of 2015.
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>
>>> Here's ride #7 well kinda,
>>>
>>> Read about it here 
>>>
>>> Tail Winds,
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>>> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Hugh Smitham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Doug!

 Neglected?? Who's saying that?? I wouldn't say that. Stay tuned :^))

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipeedemusings.com/



 On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:11 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Your Rivs aren't feeling neglected are they?  :)
>
> doug
>
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 9:26:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Strange Mike your comment never made it to my email?
>>
>> I'm resisting the impulse :^)
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
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[RBW] Guess which one is mine...

[Surlyprof]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/22633062849/in/dateposted-public/

This image struck me the other day as I was about to get off the train from 
my evening commute.  Every bike (aside from mine) was black with one dark 
blue exception.  There is the occasional steel bike but it's mostly a sea 
of carbon and aluminum.  Sam tends to stand out (proudly I might add).  I 
do receive the occasional, "Nice bike" or "That's in great shape for such 
an old bike" but mostly no one appears interested.  It's mostly a 
crabon-riding, MAMIL crowd.  I am not the least bit self-conscious about 
this because I know that, upon exiting the train, I will end my day with a 
delightful meander down the Alameda water channel to the wife and dogs in 
our little bungalow in Niles.  It's always such a great way to wind down at 
the end of even the most stressful workday.  I always end up happy by the 
time I arrive home.

Anyone else deal with this sort of fish out of water situation with their 
Riv or is it just me and my commute?  Just curious.
John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

[dougP]

Really fun to read.  Your posts show the other side of LA.  It's hard to 
understand until you get out of the car & get into the mountains under your 
own power.  Hey, there could be snow in them thar hills if the weather 
reports are close to right.  

dougP

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>
> Thanks Chris! I'll do my best.
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving.” ― Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipeedemusings.com/
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:27 AM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Love the blog posts!!   Good coffee, classy bikes and good company and 
>> did I mention classy bikes?!   Keep em coming!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 3:13:31 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Hot off the presses.
>>>
>>> Here 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Tail Winds,
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] Velocity Cliffhanger 650B Rim experience?

[Tony DeFilippo]

I meant to type Thunder Burt vice Furious Fred... getting my funny schwable 
names mixed up!  

Tim that's exactly what I was thinking, for rough stuff loaded/unloaded, 
rider weighing around 200lbs seems like the beefier (and wider) the better.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Pink Rivendell All-Rounder for sale

[cyclotourist]

That's my favorite color! If I ever get a custom built, it'll be as
close to that as I can get!

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Ryan Ray  wrote:
> 1000 obo for a ride-ready 531 Riv with an awesome paint job.
>
> Sold already right?
>
>
> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 3:15:49 PM UTC-8, jeffrey kane wrote:
>>
>> What would you say the max. tire width would be?
>>
>> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 2:50:38 PM UTC-5, Patrick Shea wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Posting for a friend:

 Rivendell All Rounder for sale. One of a kind. Waterford built when they
 were building All Rounders.

 Yes, a Waterford-built Rivendell All Rounder needs a new home. The
 geometry is custom as is the pinkish metal flake paint. Specs in inches due
 to lack of metric tape measure:

 ht= 6"
 st c-c=19.75 - 20"  c-t= 21" (to top of lug point)
 tt= 21.25"
 wb= 40"
 standover at center of tt= 30.5"

 Wheels: 26" Mavic 117 32 spokes, 3x, brass nipples, Deore XT hubs
 Tires: in great shape, Nimbus 26x1.50, barely used
 Cantis: Deore XT
 Crank: Sugino triple, 165mm (not sure of ring numbers)
 Pedals; Ritchey WCS gold
 Stem: Look Ergostem, dials in the fit
 Bars: Ritchey 40cm
 Drivetrain: 9-speed Campy Record Ergo levers, Campy Racing T f/d, Campy
 Racing T long r/d (Sold as Record level parts)
 Brooks women's saddle, not even broken in

  Everything is nice and works fine.

 $1,000obo. Prefer Bay Area pick-up but will ship for cost of packing,
 shipping from a pro shop.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please contact off-list at pinkri...@gmail.com
>>>


 Pics: https://www.flickr.com/gp/137681734@N02/ZE832E

 Cheers,
 Patrick
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Pair of Hetres

[Lungimsam]

Bump:
$85 shipped CONUS for the pair.

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[RBW] Re: Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[Rob]

Lots of pegboard! 

 (link 
to an image of my garage, back when I had motorcycles instead of bicycles)

The shelf above the workbench is kinda cool too. We made it with an edge of 
perforated angle iron from Lowes, suspended with wire rope (old halyards) 
with Nicopress swaged fittings on the bottom. It's held up 12 years so far. 

Here's more on the whole garage 
. It was 
published in a book called *ManSpace: A Primal Guide to Marking Your 
Territory* lol 

Rob in Seattle

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[cyclotourist]

A long day in the dirt today! Was hopefully fun for all. Six locals,
five MTBs, four Rivies. The soda machine at the ranger station was out
of stock... worst part of the day!!!

I hope the guys that came out had a good time, and rode some new and
unexpected trails!

I didn't take too many photos unfortunately, but pics to prove:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/albums/72157661109767341

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:11 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I think I'll be okay. Low grade stuff, just not optimum.
> Hasta manana!
>
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 3:07:35 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
>>
>> Hope you feel better !
>>
>> See you tomorrow unless things are postponed which would be
>> understandable.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 1:05:17 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good to hear, Arnold! Make sure you have some fat tires on that Atlantis!
>>> I rode the sandy parts Wed, and they're not that bad. But that was w/ 2.25"
>>> tires to float on it.
>>>
>>> Bummer for me is I'm feeling kinda' sick. So planning on it all, but may
>>> be rolling a bit slower than hoped for :(
>>>
>>> All day parking over @ Redlands Mall https://goo.gl/maps/udjPnVb4JFB2
>>>
>>> Bring a U-lock, and leave it downtown so you can lock up post-ride.
>>>
>>> See you tomorrow!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 12:38:38 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:

 Hi

 First time poster here

 This sounds like a good ride and my Atlantis is Slimed and ready to go

 See you 0900 Saturday 11/14

 Arnold


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>
> That's "dirt roads" in Italian according to The Google!
>
> I've wanted to put together a more dirt-oriented version of the
> Redlands Strada Rossa for a while now. The RSR has about 50% dirt, and 
> it's
> high quality stuff, but a lot of asphalt connecting it. Kicked around some
> ideas and came up with this: http://ridewithgps.com/ Only about five of 
> the
> 38 miles are asphalt, which anyone in marketing can explain to you is the
> same as 100% dirt!
>
> It includes all kinds of surfaces. Santa Ana River crossing on dry
> beach sand. Sandy roads. Rocky flat-ish singletrack. Buffed singletrack
> climbing. Fire road descents. Suburban sprawl roads. LOTS of goatheads.
> Weather should be beautiful. Rain the last couple days packed down the 
> sandy
> portions a bit.
>
> Rolling at 9:00 on Saturday the 14th, leaving from in front of Augie's
> Coffee in downtown. Finishes at Gourmet Pizza Shoppe also downtown. Bring 
> a
> U-lock and leave it downtown for when you get back as start/finish are 
> right
> by each other.
>
> Serious about the goatheads. If you don't have Slime, tubeless, liners
> or all three, you will be walking home.
>
> Unlike the RSR, this is not an organized ride. Just some locals and
> internet friends getting together to explore out in the hills. We're slow,
> we meander, we like carbs. Feel free to jump aboard!
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

[Jeremy Till]

We've done this a couple of times before, but not recently.  Here's a 
thread from 2011: 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/marty$20models/rbw-owners-bunch/yv4cUItn4VE/dWYHgqzzIyQJ

This was prompted by some neat work done by lister Marty culling together a 
poster with one picture of every model/variation of Riv up to that point, 
then another with their headbages:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/6923100084/
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/poster/rbw-owners-bunch/cXnGhwAjbPk/69-9a_MNYmYJ

On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 3:11:37 PM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:
>
> I'd love a thread that could end up with a list of models and the year 
> they were introduced (and last year produced if no longer).  Don't feel 
> like we've done that before.  (If so, just point me to the thread...)
>
> Here's fodder...
>
> Riv Road
> Riv All Arounder (?)
> Heron
> Atlantis
> Romulus
> Quickbeam
> Ramboulliet
> Saluki
> Wilbury/Glorious
> Homer 
> bleriot
> Sam
> bombadil
> Hunq
> Rodeo
> Simpleone
> Betty/Yves
> mystery bike
> cheviot
> clem/clementine
> joe appaloosa
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[James Warren]

Great day and great company. Thanks for putting it together. Nice photos!


On Nov 14, 2015, at 9:55 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

> A long day in the dirt today! Was hopefully fun for all. Six locals,
> five MTBs, four Rivies. The soda machine at the ranger station was out
> of stock... worst part of the day!!!
> 
> I hope the guys that came out had a good time, and rode some new and
> unexpected trails!
> 
> I didn't take too many photos unfortunately, but pics to prove:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/albums/72157661109767341
> 
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:11 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
>> I think I'll be okay. Low grade stuff, just not optimum.
>> Hasta manana!
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 3:07:35 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hope you feel better !
>>> 
>>> See you tomorrow unless things are postponed which would be
>>> understandable.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 1:05:17 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
 
 Good to hear, Arnold! Make sure you have some fat tires on that Atlantis!
 I rode the sandy parts Wed, and they're not that bad. But that was w/ 2.25"
 tires to float on it.
 
 Bummer for me is I'm feeling kinda' sick. So planning on it all, but may
 be rolling a bit slower than hoped for :(
 
 All day parking over @ Redlands Mall https://goo.gl/maps/udjPnVb4JFB2
 
 Bring a U-lock, and leave it downtown so you can lock up post-ride.
 
 See you tomorrow!
 
 
 On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 12:38:38 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> First time poster here
> 
> This sounds like a good ride and my Atlantis is Slimed and ready to go
> 
> See you 0900 Saturday 11/14
> 
> Arnold
> 
> 
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 12:18:51 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> 
>> That's "dirt roads" in Italian according to The Google!
>> 
>> I've wanted to put together a more dirt-oriented version of the
>> Redlands Strada Rossa for a while now. The RSR has about 50% dirt, and 
>> it's
>> high quality stuff, but a lot of asphalt connecting it. Kicked around 
>> some
>> ideas and came up with this: http://ridewithgps.com/ Only about five of 
>> the
>> 38 miles are asphalt, which anyone in marketing can explain to you is the
>> same as 100% dirt!
>> 
>> It includes all kinds of surfaces. Santa Ana River crossing on dry
>> beach sand. Sandy roads. Rocky flat-ish singletrack. Buffed singletrack
>> climbing. Fire road descents. Suburban sprawl roads. LOTS of goatheads.
>> Weather should be beautiful. Rain the last couple days packed down the 
>> sandy
>> portions a bit.
>> 
>> Rolling at 9:00 on Saturday the 14th, leaving from in front of Augie's
>> Coffee in downtown. Finishes at Gourmet Pizza Shoppe also downtown. 
>> Bring a
>> U-lock and leave it downtown for when you get back as start/finish are 
>> right
>> by each other.
>> 
>> Serious about the goatheads. If you don't have Slime, tubeless, liners
>> or all three, you will be walking home.
>> 
>> Unlike the RSR, this is not an organized ride. Just some locals and
>> internet friends getting together to explore out in the hills. We're 
>> slow,
>> we meander, we like carbs. Feel free to jump aboard!
>> 
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> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[Richard Rios]

Had a great time😊! Super nice group of people and lots of fun explorn' new to 
me trails. Only wish I coulda hung in there a bit longer and finished up the 
ride...maybe gone to low carb or maybe not riding enough. Either way I'm 
looking forward to strada rossa. Thanks for putting such fun rides together.

Sincerely,
Richard

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