[RBW] For Sale: Large ShopSack, Olive

[Evan E.]

Good condition. Used gently and seldom. Happy to send you pictures if you 
like, but it looks just like the larger ShopSack that Rivendell shows here:

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bashm-o.htm

I'm selling this bag only because I've switched to a medium Wald basket, 
and the large ShopSack overflows a medium basket.

$42 shipped in the Lower 48.

All proceeds from the sale of this bag go right back to Rivendell.

Please reply off list if you can. Thanks.



 

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[RBW] Re: New Winter Project: Another 650B conversion, thanks in part to you

[WETH]

That is looking good.  I am glad it is coming together easily.
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Early Christmas - Heron Touring

[Montclair BobbyB]

Nice find... ready to tour.

On Sunday, December 6, 2015 at 11:46:10 AM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>
> Took the grandkids to see Santa last night, and came across a beautiful 
> Heron Touring rig on CL this morning only 10 miles from home! It's a 
> Christmas miracle!  Not my size, but should fit my wife nicely. Amazing mix 
> of parts: TA Zephyr crankset, Phil rear hub, XTR front hub, Brooks B17, 
> Caradice Super C panniers to name a few. Santas elves had fun putting this 
> one together years ago! I'll get to the clean-up and post more pics after a 
> long Winters nap...
>
>
> 
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv 12-40 cassette

[William deRosset]

Dear Joe,

I've read that racing cyclists would use their gears that way back when 
chains were stiffer and chainline an obsession--big ring with the small 
tooth-count half, and small ring with the large cogs. But they'd be working 
with 4 or 5 cogs, and relatively small gaps between chainrings--like five 
teeth. However, those days were long gone with 6-speed gear. Pretty much 
all of the older riders when I got going used "standard" racing gears, so 
42-52 (or 53--ooh a sprinter!) up front and a 13-XX cluster in back. In 
Louisiana, XX = 18 or 19; in Colorado, XX = 24 or 28. A few had the drilled 
Campy triple setups, but they weren't racers. I started on the same stuff 
(though with junior gears) and switched to HS+G once I got over my racing 
bug. It remains an elegant and efficient system, at the expense of a triple 
chainring setup. 

I mostly use a wide-range crossover in these days of many-cog 
cassettes--basically the Half-Step is replaced by a close-ratio 1X10, and 
the Granny remains as bailout.

Best Regards,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO


On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 10:45:20 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Weird, it looks like they split the gearing into two stages. Like you'll 
> use the smaller jumps on the small cogs for flats, then leap to the other 
> set of small-jumps for climbing. Assuming that convoluted description makes 
> sense to anybody, I wonder if it makes any sense on the road. 

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[RBW] Re: So darn close...

[Montclair BobbyB]

PERFECT

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 5:54:19 PM UTC-5, Zach Duval wrote:
>
> A picture to go with that last post.
>
> On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 3:49:56 PM UTC-7, Zach Duval wrote:
> > Thanks, Phillip. I currently run VO aluminum fenders, which I probably 
> don'the want to try sawing in half. I'very got a few options (including 
> your Riv-inspired SKS hack) to mull over. For now, I've got the Knard on 
> the rear and a ColdVie up front, which may suffice through this winter. 
> Fender-tire clearance with the Knard isn't as good as I'd hope, but it 
> should be fine for around town.
> > 
> > I'm leaning towards a single Paul Racer to aid clearance in the front in 
> order to get the other Knard under thar fender (like the post title says, 
> even with a Tektro it'seems so darn close). Then eventually springing for 
> the rear to balance the bike out. I've also got an old Schwinn PDG 50 I've 
> been meaning to adapt over as a winter commuter, so that may take 
> investment priority. As it is, oddly enough, even in NW Montana this year, 
> we've not had much snow -- rain's coming down now! -- so I may have time to 
> fine tune that latter option and keep the Hillborne for fairer weather.
>
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[RBW] Re: Clem and Clementine framesets available now

[Garth]

  
   How wonderful , thanks Bill !  

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 5:34:09 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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> The BLUG announced that Riv was holding back a few Clem and Clementine 
> framesets just in case somebody's got damaged.  Now you can buy one.  The 
> Clem in every size, including Medium!  The Clementine in Large and Small, 
> but no Medium.  No more excuses, until these get sold, of course.  
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Winter Project: Another 650B conversion, thanks in part to you

[Bill Lindsay]

I'm not really riding at the moment.  I have a leg injury that makes it 
difficult.  I'm a mechanic first, anyway.  Cyclist is a distant second

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 8:09:34 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Those wheels look just right. How does it ride?
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Surly Extraterrestrial 26 x 2.5

[David Banzer]

Glad you got that frame built up quickly. While looking at 29er tires last 
night, I noticed that Continental has a few models in the the 26x2.4" size. 
Might be worth a look.
David
Chicago

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 6:01:30 PM UTC-6, ant ritchey wrote:
>
> Just picked up a Trek 850 that's been floating around the hands of more 
> than a few iBob-ers and with it I'd like to go fenderless/as big as 
> possible in the tire department.
>
> The single Maxxis Minion 2.5 tire that i found on the street clears both 
> front and back, even with the knobs.  Tis a lil tite at the chainstay...
>
> Nonetheless - 
>
> The Surly Extraterrestrial 26x2.5 tires are intriguing.  Just thought I'd 
> see if any iBOB personnel have gave 'em a try.
>
> Thank y'all/yinz/you all
>
> ant/pdx or
>

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[RBW] FS: MUSA old style pants, M; 26" and 650C tires; stem; bars, saddle

[Patrick Moore]

I can send photos upon demand.

Tires
1. WTB Mutano Raptor and Moto Raptor, used but good, both labeled 2.4",
Mutano measures 54 mm on a 23.5 mm rim, MR measures 60.
$20 for both plus $16 Priority shipping, or $36 SHIPPED CONUS.

2. Kojaks, FOLDING, 559 X 1.35" (32 mm on 21 mm rim).

a. 1 pr used < 100 miles with sealant, so traces of Orange Seal inside: $43
shipped Priority CONUS.

b. Other pair NIP, $53 shipped Priority CONUS.

3. Pair 'n' half (3 tires) 650C/571 NIP Michelin Pro Race 4, $10 each, all
for $43 SHIPPED CONUS.

Stem: Nitto 10* rise 11 cm long gold 1 1/8" stem, $32 shipped CONUS.

Bars:
a. On One Mary, stout steel, shot/peened finish, $30 shipped CONUS.
b. Ritchey bullhorns, light, $25 shipped CONUS.

Saddle: Vetta "Comfort Flex," vinyl covered, vg, $15 shipped CONUS.

MUSA long pants, old, more trim style, size M -- measured side to side
along waistband, 14" unstretched, 18" stretched; inseam 32: $45 shipped
CONUS.

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[RBW] Got my wrecked SimpleOne back from the police.

[David Spranger]

It has been a while since I have posted as I have not ridden in a very long 
time (until this past week!).

I did receive my wrecked SO back from the police this week. Spent an 
afternoon removing the parts from the frame and seeing what is what. 
Remarkably, most of the parts are in excellent shape. In fact besides the 
frame itself (which I don't know how will end up), the only parts I will 
not be able to reuse are the rear rim and spokes and the rear fender (I was 
hit from the rear and the wheel essentially disintegrated) and maybe the 
handlebars which are aluminum and I may decide not to trust anymore. What 
is really remarkable to me and I am very proud to say, is that the front 
dynamo wheel that I built when I acquired the frame several years back, is 
as true as the day I took it off the truing stand the day I built it.

I am so happy that I am riding again, though it may be some time before I 
get the freedom to ride as I used to do.

David 
Charlotte, NC

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[RBW] FS: TA zephyr triple crankset for sale,w/ Phil wood bb and TA chainrings

[mike gasparino]

Mks ar2 pedals, mks toe clips, and black zefal toe straps included!

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RE: [RBW] Got my wrecked SimpleOne back from the police.

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

David, so glad to hear you're getting back on the bike – a wonderful holiday 
gift for you!

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Spranger
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:36 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Got my wrecked SimpleOne back from the police.

It has been a while since I have posted as I have not ridden in a very long 
time (until this past week!).

I did receive my wrecked SO back from the police this week. Spent an afternoon 
removing the parts from the frame and seeing what is what. Remarkably, most of 
the parts are in excellent shape. In fact besides the frame itself (which I 
don't know how will end up), the only parts I will not be able to reuse are the 
rear rim and spokes and the rear fender (I was hit from the rear and the wheel 
essentially disintegrated) and maybe the handlebars which are aluminum and I 
may decide not to trust anymore. What is really remarkable to me and I am very 
proud to say, is that the front dynamo wheel that I built when I acquired the 
frame several years back, is as true as the day I took it off the truing stand 
the day I built it.

I am so happy that I am riding again, though it may be some time before I get 
the freedom to ride as I used to do.

David
Charlotte, NC

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[RBW] Re: NYC Rivs

[alan lavine]

Still having some issues with missing e-mails.  Any interest in a meet up 
Thurs. evening, place to be determined?
Alan

On Sunday, December 6, 2015 at 6:07:18 PM UTC-5, Kainalu wrote:
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> kaivierstra at gmail.com 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Winter Project: Another 650B conversion, thanks in part to you

[Patrick Moore]

Those wheels look just right. How does it ride?

My first fixed converstion, circa 1996-1997, was a black 58 cm Tempo -- a
very nice handling bike, though quite heavy. But I recall gently reshaping
the seatstay bridge with a hammer to allow accommodation of a 700C X 26
tire -- there was a bit more room in front. I forgot what happened to it ...

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Maybe I'm getting too good at 650B conversions, or maybe I have too many
> parts on-hand to make things go so smoothly.  Whatever the reason, I've got
> my 1985 Schwinn Tempo all ready to ride in its new 650B configuration.  I
> pulled the stock wheelset and replaced it with a Pacenti PL23 wheelset.
> White Industries front hub and vintage Suntour Cyclone rear hub.  Shimano
> 600 6-speed freewheel 13-25, and very used Soma New Express 650x37B tires.
> Tektro bigmouth brakes.  Stock seatpost, NOS vetta saddle.  Cockpit
> replaced with Nitto Pearl 11 stem.  Noodle 44cm bars, and SRAM S500
> levers.  Ritchey/Sugino 44/30 crankset.  Stock Shimano "Z" shifters and
> derailers.  It's already set up with Front and Rear Sheldon Nuts, so fender
> install should be super quick.  I picked this Tempo partially because it
> has fender eyelets.
>
> Have a look if you like:
>
> Flickr Album LINK
> 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: NYC Rivs

[Daniel Jackson]

Any NYC Riv Riders with a 62 Hunq that'd let me give it a test spin over New 
Years?

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Re: [RBW] wtb MUSA long pants, XL

[clyde canter]

I have a pair or the grey ones, reflector bottom of leg band. Make an
offer. I think I wore them once. They're a little big for me.
Best,
Clyde Canter

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 5:36 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> not particular about color
> please contact offline
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[RBW] Re: Surly Extraterrestrial 26 x 2.5

[Jeremy Till]

No personal experience but fat tire blogger G-Ted put some on his old 1x1 
and had a positive review of them:

http://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com/2015/11/project-1x1-ride-report.html

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 4:01:30 PM UTC-8, ant ritchey wrote:
>
> Just picked up a Trek 850 that's been floating around the hands of more 
> than a few iBob-ers and with it I'd like to go fenderless/as big as 
> possible in the tire department.
>
> The single Maxxis Minion 2.5 tire that i found on the street clears both 
> front and back, even with the knobs.  Tis a lil tite at the chainstay...
>
> Nonetheless - 
>
> The Surly Extraterrestrial 26x2.5 tires are intriguing.  Just thought I'd 
> see if any iBOB personnel have gave 'em a try.
>
> Thank y'all/yinz/you all
>
> ant/pdx or
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB - 56 - 58 Bombadil or 58 - 62 Hunq / Hunqapillar

[Jay Bird]

Hi Jason, 

I have a 92 pbh and I have a green 62cm Hunqapillar that I'm thinking of 
selling. If you are still interested let me know. Are you looking for a 
complete or frameset? 

Thans

Jay

On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 8:20:48 PM UTC-7, Jason Braaten wrote:
>
> I've been looking for a 58cm Hunq, however figured I would check on other 
> sizes that may work.  I'm looking at another bike and hoping to make a 
> decision this week if possible.  91 pbh.  Please reach out if selling.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jason
>
>

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[RBW] Got my wrecked SimpleOne back from the police.

[islaysteve]

Congratulations on riding again David!  I wish you a full recovery to do all 
the riding that you want.  As far as the bike goes, of course thats secondary.  
But you could have a fun winter project if you want.  Cheers,
Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: NYC Rivs

[Alan Lavine]

Sorry. I’ve got a Clem and a Ramboullet.

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Daniel Jackson  
> wrote:
> 
> Any NYC Riv Riders with a 62 Hunq that'd let me give it a test spin over New 
> Years?
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[RBW] Re: Got my wrecked SimpleOne back from the police.

[Deacon Patrick]

Awesome that you have been able to ride again! Perhaps building wheels and 
working on the bike(s) will be a therapy of its own, too? May the prayer of 
pedaling help deepen your healing! 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 8:36:26 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
>
> It has been a while since I have posted as I have not ridden in a very 
> long time (until this past week!).
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[RBW] Re: NYC Rivs

[Brad]

I can do Thursday evening!

Still having some issues with missing e-mails.  Any interest in a meet up 
> Thurs. evening, place to be determined?
> Alan
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy in the news!

[JohnS]

You know your city is bike friendly when...

1. A dog can ride along in a bicycle basket.

Congratulations to your city for reaching Silver!

JohnS


On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 6:07:48 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:

> I didn't even know about this, but apparently my photo was snapped and 
> used as the cover of a news article talking about my city getting a recent 
> designation for being bike-friendly. Pictured is my Betty Foy and my dog, 
> who has let his celebrity go straight to his head. There will be no living 
> with him now.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/AZuECA
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[RBW] Re: Look at my lugs!

[Leslie]

Several times on the Creeper and on the Greenbelt, I've had lots of 
complements on 'em, but the one that stood out the most was once while 
riding the Ram on our Greenbelt, my daughter and I'd passed an older 
gentleman heading out, then met him again on our return leg as he rested on 
a bench as we passed, he called out "I love Grant Petersen's designs!"; 
much to my daughter's chagrin, I had to pull up and turn around to chat w/ 
the fella for a bit... he'd previously run a bikeshop, had retired from 
such.  

Another similar story, I had the Bomba on Ocracoke;  earlier in the week, I 
had it locked up at various shops in the village, where it'd been noticed 
closely.   Near the end of the week, while riding through the campground 
(again with my daughter), a fella came running out from his netting 
shelter, calling out "My brother used to work for Paul's Components";  
again to the chagrin of my daughter, I turned around and had to chat... 
he'd even noticed the brakes on my bike.  He's one of the Hunt brothers, 
had left Cali and moved to Charlotte...  

Yeah, Rivendells are not a bike to ride if you want to blend in

-L



On Sunday, December 6, 2015 at 7:36:09 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> I was leading our club C group on a chilly WINDY early ride yesterday. 
> Along the way, we saw another group of racier riders who we did not know 
> stopped at a corner. I swung over to meet & greet, and one of the riders 
> pedaled on with me for a mile or so as we continued to chat. Sitting on his 
> SS steel, urban set up Merkx, he looked over at my Rambouillet and 
> remarked, "I like those lugs! Is that a custom bike?" I told him that it 
> might as well be one, because it IS hand made and it DOES fit me like a 
> glove."Love those tires!" (Pasela 1 1/2" - the largest the bike is designed 
> for). I told him that with skin walls and fabric beads, they are still 
> light in weight and comfy on the rough stuff. "You could ride that bike on 
> fire roads!"  Well, yes I can, and do. (I get grief from certain quarters 
> when our routes include even a short stretch of unpaved travel, but I have 
> broad shoulders :) ). This is not the 1st time someone has pulled along 
> side and admired this bike. He liked the Hands-On-Wheels made wheelset too. 
> And then he spun up to ludicrous speed cadence and was gone. Ahh to be 
> young and fit!

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil Tire Clearance

[Chad]

http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/marathon_mondial
 

> I may try the new 650b x 2.0 Marathon Mondials on the Bomba when they 
> become available.  I have considered Big Bens, but I don't think they will 
> work well on the trails in my neck of the woods.

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil Tire Clearance

[Chad]

Garth- I too have an '83 Stumpjumper Sport frame and a box full of the most 
of the original parts.  I'm not sure what the tire clearance is like, but I 
have this neat old article from '83 as a reference 
http://www.vintagecrank.com/vintage-bicycle-articles/Fat-Tire-Bikes-Bicycle-Mag-May-83.pdf
   
Looks like every bike test is running 2.125 tires.  I also have a '87 MB-2 
(one of Grant's first designs, the first was the '86 MB-1) that can only 
fit a fit a 1.9 tire.  I was able to squeeze in some reproduction Panaracer 
Timbuk II 2.0 tires, but they are super tight fit between the chainstays.
 
Jim and Ted- sounds like you guys have similiar issues on your early 
Bombadils (mine is a 52 BTW), so the problem is not just unique to my 
Bomba.  I think you folks our right about the Bomba being designed at a 
time when the Schwalbe HS 315 "Fatty" (true size 45-47) was the biggest 
650b tire readily available. I CAN get about 5mm of clearance between tire 
and bridge if I run the Quasi's at 25-28 psi, but the one time I ran them 
that low I got a pinch flat.  I usually run 35 on pavement and then drop to 
30 on rough trails.  I would like to eventually upgrade to a tubeless setup.
 
Mud clearance was a big issue this past season for both my Hillborne and 
Bomba.  I used my Hillborne for the Dirty Kanza gravel grinder and ending 
up carrying it for 3 miles because the wheels kept getting stuck between 
the frame and sidepulls.  I ended up wearing through the paint in a couple 
of spots when I finally was able to get the wheels unclogged enough to spin 
the clay-like mud was full of sand and pebbles.  I was running 40.5 wide 
Fatty Rumpkins and had at least 10mm of clearance above the tires on the 
Hillborne.  I may switch to Paul Racers and 38 mm tires this year on the 
Hillborne.  Similiarly, our local single track trails in KC were closed 
most of June and July here in KC due to rain and when they were open, they 
were still sticky in dirt and slick on the rocks.  I tried running the 
Schwalbe Fatties but could not get enough traction for climbing.
 
I have been talking to Rick at D cycles about getting the Bomba 
repainted, but I don't want to wreck the new paint with tire rub.  I am 
also considering trying to get the bridge raised 5mm.  I just installed 
Bruce Gordon Rock n Roads and they have tons of room in the frame and the 
tanwalls look great on the Bomba.  I am hoping the work well enough on our 
local trails.  I use my Bomba as here in KC as my primary trail bike, as my 
full-suspension MTB currently lives at our vacation place in Colorado.
 
Chad
 

 

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[RBW] Re: So darn close...

[JohnS]

Zack,

Looking at your picture of the snow on your rear wheel is making me cold! 
I'll deal with that when the time comes, but not any sooner.

JohnS



On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 3:48:33 PM UTC-5, Zach Duval wrote:

> After spending my morning trying to fit a pair of Surly Knards (650BX41, 
> low-profile knobbies) under VO Zeppelin fenders on my Sam, unsuccessfully, 
> I'm a bit flummoxed. I was really looking forward to this as a winter 
> set-up for lighter commute rides.
>
> Anyone think this combo could work with Paul Racers?
>
> On a side note: Why did Riv ever stop issuing canti-Sams?! 
>
>

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[RBW] New Winter Project: Another 650B conversion, thanks in part to you

[true]

Sure Lee.



They came off ebay.

Note, I am no wheel expert.



I am guessing I may have 300 miles or so on them.

For my experiment with 650b they are working well. 



I think he accepted $10 less which covered part of shipping so I don't have 
much invested

into my test but overall they seem decent enough



The rims are  Zac19 36 hole and the hub shells have no labels but look very 
similar to what I have seen labeled Parallax / Alivio / Acera.



The bearings seemed way too tight so I opened them up and added a bit of grease 
and adjusted them where they spin nicely.

They also currently spin true. I am unsure about longevity on wheels at this 
price point.



I measured the outside width at 23mm. I guess the 19m he list is the inside 
width.



I do not see 36 spoke wheels listed currently. You might send the seller a 
message to inquire when he expects more.

Clicking on new listing links directed me to 28 spoke wheels.



Here's his description:

Silver 650B / 27.5 wheels, 130mm rear, 100mm front, 

double walled aluminum alloy rims, 1"wide, 7/ 8/9 Speed, 

( I can provide for free an adapter to convert wheel to 7 speed, just ask), 

36 DT IND silver spokes, Alloy hubs, quick release skewers included, 

Schrader valve drilling, ERTRO 584 x 19mm



http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHEELSET-650B-26-x-1-1-2-27-5-SLVR-130MM-7-8-9-SPD-WEI-ZAC19-36-H-/252184203241?nma=true=k%252BCYE%252BPjmTBrli9puKzslmwV6Uc%253D_cvip=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557



Safe pedaling,

Paul in Dallas







---







 Lee Haines 
 

  10:39 AM (1 hour ago) 
 


Paul, 

 

Can you divulge the source of this budget 650b wheelset?

 

I have 2 mid '80s schwinn travellers ('86 in black and '88 in teal/white fade). 
I've converted the '86 to 700 x 37 paselas which fit but make fenders nothing 
but a pipe dream. I'm considering converting the '88 to 650b.

 

thanks!

 

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Re: [RBW] wtb MUSA long pants, XL

[Ron Mc]

thanks Clyde, just bought a pair of grays.  If anybody has black in XL, I 
would be interested.  
Thanks again.  

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 10:49:12 AM UTC-6, ccanter wrote:
>
> I have a pair or the grey ones, reflector bottom of leg band. Make an 
> offer. I think I wore them once. They're a little big for me.
> Best,
> Clyde Canter
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 5:36 AM, Ron Mc  
> wrote:
>
>> not particular about color
>> please contact offline
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil Tire Clearance

[Surlyprof]

I would think twice about the Mondials if you are thinking about them for 
dirt.  I use them in a 40 for commuting and they roll well on the road are 
are sturdy (no flats in over a year).  I bought them hoping they would be a 
good crossover tire for road and trail but they tend to slip a lot on dirt. 
 Too much smooth surface area in the center.  The knobs open up a little on 
the sides which provide pretty confident turning on hardpack trails.  In my 
opinion, Mondials were designed for road and hardpack but not dirt and 
rock.  Perfect for my commute.

John

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 9:24:10 AM UTC-8, Chad wrote:
>
>
> http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/marathon_mondial
>  
>
>> I may try the new 650b x 2.0 Marathon Mondials on the Bomba when they 
>> become available.  I have considered Big Bens, but I don't think they will 
>> work well on the trails in my neck of the woods.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] New Winter Project: Another 650B conversion, thanks in part to you

[Tim Gavin]

I have a set of identical cheapo 650b wheels from the same eBay seller
(uglyrm).  He doesn't have any available right now, but keep an eye out for
them.

I bought the cheapo set when I first tried 650b on my Riv Road.  I put
about 1000 miles on the wheels, with a decent load (my 240 lbs plus about
20 lbs of cargo).  No problems, no re-truing needed.
I replaced the cheapos with a set I built (original Phil hubs to Synergy
rims), and moved the cheapos to a 650b conversion of a Bianchi for my
daughter.

My girlfriend's Soma San Marcos 51 cm build also came with these cheapo
wheels.  She's much lighter than me, but has about 1500 miles on them with
no problems.

My only complaint:  The ZAC19 rim has a deep well, much like a Synergy,
which makes it tough to get tires to seat properly the first time.  Soap on
the beads helps a lot.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:07 PM, true  wrote:

> Sure Lee.
>
>
>
> They came off ebay.
>
> Note, I am no wheel expert.
>
>
>
> I am guessing I may have 300 miles or so on them.
>
> For my experiment with 650b they are working well.
>
>
>
> I think he accepted $10 less which covered part of shipping so I don't
> have much invested
>
> into my test but overall they seem decent enough
>
>
>
> The rims are  Zac19 36 hole and the hub shells have no labels but look
> very similar to what I have seen labeled Parallax / Alivio / Acera.
>
>
>
> The bearings seemed way too tight so I opened them up and added a bit of
> grease and adjusted them where they spin nicely.
>
> They also currently spin true. I am unsure about longevity on wheels at
> this price point.
>
>
>
> I measured the outside width at 23mm. I guess the 19m he list is the
> inside width.
>
>
>
> I do not see 36 spoke wheels listed currently. You might send the seller a
> message to inquire when he expects more.
>
> Clicking on new listing links directed me to 28 spoke wheels.
>
>
>
> Here's his description:
>
> *Silver 650B / 27.5 wheels, 130mm rear, 100mm front, *
>
> *double walled aluminum alloy rims, 1"wide, 7/ 8/9 Speed, *
>
> *( I can provide for free an adapter to convert wheel to 7 speed, just
> ask), *
>
> *36 DT IND silver spokes, Alloy hubs, quick release skewers included, *
>
> *Schrader valve drilling, ERTRO 584 x 19mm*
>
>
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHEELSET-650B-26-x-1-1-2-27-5-SLVR-130MM-7-8-9-SPD-WEI-ZAC19-36-H-/252184203241?nma=true=k%252BCYE%252BPjmTBrli9puKzslmwV6Uc%253D_cvip=true=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
>
>
>
> Safe pedaling,
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lee Haines
>
> 10:39 AM (1 hour ago)
>
> Paul,
>
>
>
> Can you divulge the source of this budget 650b wheelset?
>
>
>
> I have 2 mid '80s schwinn travellers ('86 in black and '88 in teal/white
> fade). I've converted the '86 to 700 x 37 paselas which fit but make
> fenders nothing but a pipe dream. I'm considering converting the '88 to
> 650b.
>
>
>
> thanks!
>
>
>
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[RBW] New Winter Project: Another 650B conversion, thanks in part to you

[true]

Tim,

If you posted about those wheels here or on the ibob list I probably learned of 
them from you.

I don't come up with much original but continually learn from the good folks on 
these lists.
There are so many willing to share their knowledge and help others. Thanks to 
you all.

Trying what many of you have found works well has enabled me to get a few cool 
bikes dialed
in that are a pleasure to ride. 

If I occasionally get one to look pretty good in the process it just adds to 
the enjoyment.

I don't recall if I shared this but another bike I miss and probably about the 
loveliest bike I have ever owned
(and I have owned a bunch over the years) since that 1985 Tempo was a brand new 
1999 Joe built Riv Road
assisted by Grant to pick a size. 
That's one I would probably take out a loan to get back and kick myself for 
letting it go.

At the time I was in a 'lighter is better' frame of mind. Live and learn.
Somewhere I still have the tube set design sheet he sent me showing the mix and 
match of tubes and the frame design.
It was a gorgeous blue color with contrasting creme head tube and terrific 
looking lugs.
I have a few pics of it somewhere.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Velocity Dyad/XT/formula wheelset 700c 40h

[drew]

these are sold

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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy in the news!

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

WOW! That picture should be in the Betty Foy Catalog and included in the 
Rivendell home page slide show!!!
And load it on to here:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell/  

https://flic.kr/p/AZuECA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy in the news!

[Leah Peterson]

Thanks so much! I didn’t know anything about that page, but I’ll check it out 
and figure out how to put that pic there now.
> On Dec 8, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado 
>  wrote:
> 
> WOW! That picture should be in the Betty Foy Catalog and included in the 
> Rivendell home page slide show!!!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy in the news!

[Jon Dukeman]

There are about 12,000 pics of mostly Rivendell bikes on there...It's fun
to look.
It's like this site only you sign on through Yahoo.

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> Thanks so much! I didn’t know anything about that page, but I’ll check it
> out and figure out how to put that pic there now.
>
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> row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> WOW! That picture should be in the Betty Foy Catalog and included in the
> Rivendell home page slide show!!!
> And load it on to here:
> https://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell/
>
> https://flic.kr/p/AZuECA
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Re: [RBW] Early Christmas - Heron Touring

[William deRosset]

Dear Marty,

You've got it. It was sold as a "paralysis preventer". I ditched it (it 
came with my build) and just used the fender

Cheers,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 5:47:17 PM UTC-7, MartyG wrote:
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> Good discussion! Now, can someone tell me what that stud thing is coming 
> out of the fork crown? Some kind of safety catch for the canti brake hanger?

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[RBW] Re: Looking for the exact wording of a Grant quote

[Deacon Patrick]

I searched my Kindle version of "Just Ride" and didn't see it.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 3:36:43 PM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I feel like it probably came from Just Ride but it's only a guess
>
> On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 2:42:59 PM UTC-6, Daniel D. wrote:
>>
>> Can't remember where I saw the interview but Grant Peterson said 
>> something along the lines of "I love bikes but I own the bike I don't let 
>> the bike own me".  Just wanted to know the exact quote
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Oops, I did it again: 2016 bike calendar

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

I want to enjoy the November ride I see there!!!

Very cool creation, Eunice!


On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 2:25:25 PM UTC-8, Eunice Chang wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thought this might be of interest to the list:
>
> I made another calendar featuring mostly Riv bikes (AHH and quickbeam) for 
> 2016. Proceeds go to Bike Durham, a local bike advocacy group. Here's the 
> link if you want to see the calendar and order one.
>
> https://squareup.com/market/justshiny/bike-calendar-1
>
> Just for folks on this list (because you are good enablers and I thought 
> I'd return the favor), there is a discount ($5 off calendar plus free 
> shipping). The code is:
> ENJOYTHERIDE
>
>
> Thanks!
> Eunice 
>

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[RBW] Looking for the exact wording of a Grant quote

[WETH]

"My bike is my friend not my boss." Maybe?
http://bicycletimesmag.com/drinks-with-author-grant-petersen/

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Re: [RBW] Re: NYC Rivs

[alan lavine]

Looks like this is a busy time of year for many. I'd be happy to meet Thurs 
evening in the west village but I'm not sure anyone else can come.  May be 
best to postpone this until after the New Year?  Let me know what you want 
to do...

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 12:08:06 PM UTC-5, alan lavine wrote:
>
> Sorry. I’ve got a Clem and a Ramboullet. 
>
> > On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Daniel Jackson <
> daniel.seth.jack...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > Any NYC Riv Riders with a 62 Hunq that'd let me give it a test spin over 
> New Years? 
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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy in the news!

[Cecily Walker]

You both look so happy. Great photo, Leah!

On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 3:07:48 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> I didn't even know about this, but apparently my photo was snapped and 
> used as the cover of a news article talking about my city getting a recent 
> designation for being bike-friendly. Pictured is my Betty Foy and my dog, 
> who has let his celebrity go straight to his head. There will be no living 
> with him now.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/AZuECA
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[RBW] Re: Riv 12-40 cassette

[Evan Baird]

IRD makes them, but they are Riv spec gearing. The IRD ones have tighter 
spacing.

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[RBW] Re: Looking for the exact wording of a Grant quote

[Daniel D.]

Thanks for checking.  Pretty sure it was in an interview but I can't 
remember if it was audio or written.  Oh well, I get the gist

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 3:28:17 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I searched my Kindle version of "Just Ride" and didn't see it.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 3:36:43 PM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> I feel like it probably came from Just Ride but it's only a guess
>>
>> On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 2:42:59 PM UTC-6, Daniel D. wrote:
>>>
>>> Can't remember where I saw the interview but Grant Peterson said 
>>> something along the lines of "I love bikes but I own the bike I don't let 
>>> the bike own me".  Just wanted to know the exact quote
>>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: compass Barlow pass extra light 700x38 tires. W/tubes. 30 miles

[mike gasparino]

SOLD

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[RBW] Re: KATY TRAIL ARTICLE

[Timothy Miller]

I did the Katy from Clinton to St.Charles this past September. There is a 
great guide book. "The complete Katy Trail Guide Book" 10th edition. By 
Brett Dufur. It is very accurate. It is crushed limestone all the way, but 
it is hard packed. I'm from Missouri, so I'm used to the heat and humidity. 
It's worth the trip.

On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-5, Jon Dukeman in the 
foothills of Colorado wrote:
>
> Todays travel section had a great article about the Katy Trail in Missouri.
> There must be some of you who have ridden it.
> If so, I'd like to hear about your experience, what time of year you went 
> etc.etc..
> Here's the article:
>
>
>
> http://gazette.com/missouris-katy-trail-offers-an-experience-cyclists-cant-find-in-colorado/article/1560940
>
>

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[RBW] FS: TA zephyr triple crankset for sale,w/ Phil wood bb and TA chainrings

[mike gasparino]

Price reduced to $350 shipped!

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[RBW] WTB: Rear Hub, 32H, 135mm Spacing

[Keith Muller]

Hi all,

I'm looking for a rear hub.  I need a 32H, 135mm spacing with a 8/9/10 
speed freehub body.  Looking for an XT level hub, nothing to crazy.  Please 
let me know if you have anything.  DM me if you do.

Thanks,

Keith

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[RBW] Re: Oops, I did it again: 2016 bike calendar

[Cecily Walker]

Lovely photos, Eunice

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[RBW] Re: Looking for the exact wording of a Grant quote

[Ryan Fleming]

I feel like it probably came from Just Ride but it's only a guess

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> Can't remember where I saw the interview but Grant Peterson said something 
> along the lines of "I love bikes but I own the bike I don't let the bike 
> own me".  Just wanted to know the exact quote
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rear Hub, 32H, 135mm Spacing

[Bill Lindsay]

used ones are a dime a dozen on ebay.  OK, not a dime a dozen, but easy to 
find for under $30 without a skewer and maybe closer to $50 with a skewer. 
 FH-M737 is a good search term.  They might have chewed up flanges from 
previous builds but I've never seen a failed flange on any of those 
Japanese XT hubs.  They're pretty bomber.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 4:20:42 PM UTC-8, Keith Muller wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for a rear hub.  I need a 32H, 135mm spacing with a 8/9/10 
> speed freehub body.  Looking for an XT level hub, nothing to crazy.  Please 
> let me know if you have anything.  DM me if you do.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith
>

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil Tire Clearance

[ted]

Chad,

I wouldn't say I have issues with my Bombadil. It works great for me, and I 
am very happy with it. But it does sound like you probably have the same 
clearance that I do, and that there isn't anything off nominal about your 
frame. If you want/need to run Quasi-Motos at 30 to 35 psi and would rather 
run larger tires that that, I suspect you would be happier with a different 
frame. Perhaps a Hunqapillar.

regards
Ted

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 9:18:37 AM UTC-8, Chad wrote:
>
> Garth- I too have an '83 Stumpjumper Sport frame and a box full of the 
> most of the original parts.  I'm not sure what the tire clearance is like, 
> but I have this neat old article from '83 as a reference 
> http://www.vintagecrank.com/vintage-bicycle-articles/Fat-Tire-Bikes-Bicycle-Mag-May-83.pdf
>
> Looks like every bike test is running 2.125 tires.  I also have a '87 MB-2 
> (one of Grant's first designs, the first was the '86 MB-1) that can only 
> fit a fit a 1.9 tire.  I was able to squeeze in some reproduction Panaracer 
> Timbuk II 2.0 tires, but they are super tight fit between the chainstays.
>  
> Jim and Ted- sounds like you guys have similiar issues on your early 
> Bombadils (mine is a 52 BTW), so the problem is not just unique to my 
> Bomba.  I think you folks our right about the Bomba being designed at a 
> time when the Schwalbe HS 315 "Fatty" (true size 45-47) was the biggest 
> 650b tire readily available. I CAN get about 5mm of clearance between tire 
> and bridge if I run the Quasi's at 25-28 psi, but the one time I ran them 
> that low I got a pinch flat.  I usually run 35 on pavement and then drop to 
> 30 on rough trails.  I would like to eventually upgrade to a tubeless setup.
>  
> Mud clearance was a big issue this past season for both my Hillborne and 
> Bomba.  I used my Hillborne for the Dirty Kanza gravel grinder and ending 
> up carrying it for 3 miles because the wheels kept getting stuck between 
> the frame and sidepulls.  I ended up wearing through the paint in a couple 
> of spots when I finally was able to get the wheels unclogged enough to spin 
> the clay-like mud was full of sand and pebbles.  I was running 40.5 wide 
> Fatty Rumpkins and had at least 10mm of clearance above the tires on the 
> Hillborne.  I may switch to Paul Racers and 38 mm tires this year on the 
> Hillborne.  Similiarly, our local single track trails in KC were closed 
> most of June and July here in KC due to rain and when they were open, they 
> were still sticky in dirt and slick on the rocks.  I tried running the 
> Schwalbe Fatties but could not get enough traction for climbing.
>  
> I have been talking to Rick at D cycles about getting the Bomba 
> repainted, but I don't want to wreck the new paint with tire rub.  I am 
> also considering trying to get the bridge raised 5mm.  I just installed 
> Bruce Gordon Rock n Roads and they have tons of room in the frame and the 
> tanwalls look great on the Bomba.  I am hoping the work well enough on our 
> local trails.  I use my Bomba as here in KC as my primary trail bike, as my 
> full-suspension MTB currently lives at our vacation place in Colorado.
>  
> Chad
>  
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: taping that brake bridge

[bo richardson]

i read "taping the brake bridge" and wondered why anyone would want to put
tape on a brake bridge and what kind of tape...

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 8:41:01 PM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>
> Last weekend I got my nerve up and took a drill and tap to the bottom of 
> the brake bridge on my AHH.
> So now my bridge has a threaded hole in it for fender mounting.
> Best I can tell the bottom of the square in the middle of the bridge is 
> about as thick as a thin nut. So I think there are enough threads there to 
> do the job. Sadly my local hardware store doesn't stock stainless button 
> head m5 bolts as short as I want so I had to cut some of one off so it 
> wouldn't interfere with the brake mounting. I will probably shorten the 
> bolt a bit more and move the fender closer to the bridge but for the moment 
> the fender is on there and seems pretty good.
> So yay.
>

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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy in the news!

[David Person]

Love it!

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[RBW] Re: Surly Extraterrestrial 26 x 2.5

[ant ritchey]

wow.

what a ding a ling i am.  totally thought i was posting this to iBob!

jeremy- thanks for the link!

david- the 850 is coming together nicely thus far, though it's not yet on 
the road.  got some vintage xt, ritchey, a hite rite, some bullmooses, 
cr720's.  just deciding on tires & drivetrain but it oughtta be good to 
go.  i'll try to get it posted to iBob once it's settled.

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 9:01:44 AM UTC-8, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Glad you got that frame built up quickly. While looking at 29er tires last 
> night, I noticed that Continental has a few models in the the 26x2.4" size. 
> Might be worth a look.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 6:01:30 PM UTC-6, ant ritchey wrote:
>>
>> Just picked up a Trek 850 that's been floating around the hands of more 
>> than a few iBob-ers and with it I'd like to go fenderless/as big as 
>> possible in the tire department.
>>
>> The single Maxxis Minion 2.5 tire that i found on the street clears both 
>> front and back, even with the knobs.  Tis a lil tite at the chainstay...
>>
>> Nonetheless - 
>>
>> The Surly Extraterrestrial 26x2.5 tires are intriguing.  Just thought I'd 
>> see if any iBOB personnel have gave 'em a try.
>>
>> Thank y'all/yinz/you all
>>
>> ant/pdx or
>>
>

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[RBW] taping that brake bridge

[ted]

Last weekend I got my nerve up and took a drill and tap to the bottom of 
the brake bridge on my AHH.
So now my bridge has a threaded hole in it for fender mounting.
Best I can tell the bottom of the square in the middle of the bridge is 
about as thick as a thin nut. So I think there are enough threads there to 
do the job. Sadly my local hardware store doesn't stock stainless button 
head m5 bolts as short as I want so I had to cut some of one off so it 
wouldn't interfere with the brake mounting. I will probably shorten the 
bolt a bit more and move the fender closer to the bridge but for the moment 
the fender is on there and seems pretty good.
So yay.

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[RBW] Re: WTB - 56 - 58 Bombadil or 58 - 62 Hunq / Hunqapillar

[drew]

Per the blug, there is a 58cm frame at rivendells which would come with 100$ of 
free parts

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[RBW] Re: taping that brake bridge

[BSWP]

Retroreflective brake bridge tape, of course! For the added night-time 
visibility.

- Andrew "I put it on wheels, too", Berkeley

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 8:47:10 PM UTC-8, bo richardson wrote:
>
> i read "taping the brake bridge" and wondered why anyone would want to put
> tape on a brake bridge and what kind of tape...
>
> On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 8:41:01 PM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>>
>> Last weekend I got my nerve up and took a drill and tap to the bottom of 
>> the brake bridge on my AHH.
>> So now my bridge has a threaded hole in it for fender mounting.
>> Best I can tell the bottom of the square in the middle of the bridge is 
>> about as thick as a thin nut. So I think there are enough threads there to 
>> do the job. Sadly my local hardware store doesn't stock stainless button 
>> head m5 bolts as short as I want so I had to cut some of one off so it 
>> wouldn't interfere with the brake mounting. I will probably shorten the 
>> bolt a bit more and move the fender closer to the bridge but for the moment 
>> the fender is on there and seems pretty good.
>> So yay.
>>
>

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[RBW] Oops, I did it again: 2016 bike calendar

[Eunice Chang]

Hi all,

Thought this might be of interest to the list:

I made another calendar featuring mostly Riv bikes (AHH and quickbeam) for
2016. Proceeds go to Bike Durham, a local bike advocacy group. Here's the
link if you want to see the calendar and order one.

https://squareup.com/market/justshiny/bike-calendar-1

Just for folks on this list (because you are good enablers and I thought
I'd return the favor), there is a discount ($5 off calendar plus free
shipping). The code is:
ENJOYTHERIDE


Thanks!
Eunice

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[RBW] Re: Got my wrecked SimpleOne back from the police.

[David Spranger]

It is without a doubt that working on bikes is a big therapy for me. My 
good friend and list member, Pam, allowed me to work on her well used Betty 
Foy recently. It was a joy to work on such a fine and well appreciated 
machine!



On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 11:24:43 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Awesome that you have been able to ride again! Perhaps building wheels and 
> working on the bike(s) will be a therapy of its own, too? May the prayer of 
> pedaling help deepen your healing! 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 8:36:26 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
>>
>> It has been a while since I have posted as I have not ridden in a very 
>> long time (until this past week!).
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Betty Foy in the news!

[Jim Bronson]

Ha that is greatness!  What a cool dog too.

-Jim

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 5:07 PM, LeahFoy  wrote:
> I didn't even know about this, but apparently my photo was snapped and used 
> as the cover of a news article talking about my city getting a recent 
> designation for being bike-friendly. Pictured is my Betty Foy and my dog, who 
> has let his celebrity go straight to his head. There will be no living with 
> him now.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/AZuECA
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[RBW] Re: Got my wrecked SimpleOne back from the police.

[Deacon Patrick]

Fantastic! It took me 3-4 years to be able to work on our family bikes. 
Riv's are by a long shot the easiest and most joyful to work on. Getting my 
daughters Clementines was in large part selfish, but I the practicality of 
the Bike Friday trumped by selfishness with my wife's bike and she got a 
cargo bike! Sardonic grin. The contemplative workshop time (for me, with 
Holy Papa Joseph gently showing me what a moron I am) is amazing therapy 
for my boggled brain!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
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> It is without a doubt that working on bikes is a big therapy for me. My 
> good friend and list member, Pam, allowed me to work on her well used Betty 
> Foy recently. It was a joy to work on such a fine and well appreciated 
> machine!
>

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