[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm A Homer Hilsen, 650b wheels and tires

[Jeff Lesperance]

Both wheelsets are now claimed (along with the Compass and speedblend tires)

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Jeff Lesperance 
wrote:

> Compass and speedblend tires are spoken for as well as the tiagra/dyno
> wheelset.
>
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Jeff Lesperance <
> jeff.lespera...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For sale is my 58cm A Homer Hilsen that I picked up from fellow listmate
>> Bill Lindsay in August of last year. He reported that he had bought this
>> new from Riv in 11/2010, and I've owned it now for about a year. I'm
>> selling it because the AHH is/was my holy grail bike and I was planning on
>> buying a new one when this one came available from Bill, and I've found
>> it's a bit too small for me. I've made it work, but for a grail bike, I
>> want it to be perfect, so I'm going to sell this one in look to invest in a
>> new Riv that fits me right.
>>
>> I'm selling the frame/fork/headset and I have a couple 650b wheelsets and
>> tires to sell as well.
>>
>> This frame is a beauty but not a beauty queen - Bill was not afraid to
>> get it dirty and neither have I, and we both put a few scrips and scrapes
>> in the paint. The most noticeable is on the driveside seatstay and fork leg
>> where there's noticeable scratches, paint transfer and a paint chip or two.
>>
>> I've taken some pictures of questionable quality that can be found here:
>> https://goo.gl/photos/7RMp4nxU5Jv4Anmg6
>>
>> I'd like to get $1200 + shipping (expected via bike flights) for F/F/HS
>>
>> The 650b wheelsets and tires I have for sale are:
>>
>> * Deore / WTB silver hubs laced to black machined side wall Velocity
>> Synergy 32 hole rims. I picked these up from Bill with the AHH: $150 +
>> shipping
>>
>> * Shimano Tiagra / Novatec Dyno hubs laced to polished Velo Orange rims:
>> $150 +shipping
>>
>> * Compass Babyshoe Pass 650x42 tires - maybe 150 miles on these tires -
>> sidewalls are dirty but tread shows no wear: $85 shipped
>>
>> * Panaracer Col de la Vie - wire bead -0 used but tread and sidewalls
>> look nearly new - sidewalls say these are 40-584 but my recollection is
>> they measure around 38mm mounted: $35 shipped
>>
>> * Schwalbe Kojak wire bead, new, with labels attached, listed at 35-584
>> and 27.5x1.35 on the sidewall - I've not mounted these - $40 shipped
>>
>> * Nifty Swifty speedblend 650bx34 - wire bead - these show minimal tread
>> wear but the sidewalls are showing some age - $15 shipped
>>
>> I'm happy to work with local pickup and possibly delivery in the DC Metro
>> area and I'll entertain offers and combine shipping in some way if you buy
>> multiple items.
>>
>> Paypal preferred
>>
>> -Jeff
>> Silver Spring, MD
>>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: 55cm Sam Hillborne

[GSE]

 

I am selling my blue Sam Hillborne.  It is a 55 cm single top tube.  I 
purchased it new in May of 2015 from RBW.  RBW built up the bike.  I have 
ridden this bike very little.  It has less than 250 miles on it.  The bike 
is in excellent condition.  There is a very small nick in the paint on the 
left front fork. (See photograph).  Rivendell originally built it with an 
Albatross bar.  I had the Albatross bar changed by my local bike shop to a 
Nitto Noodle drop bar.  The bike has the following parts.

 

Nitto Noodle 44 cm handlebar

Shimano brake levers model BL-R400

Dura Ace 9 speed bar end shifters

Brooks B-17 saddle

RBW Grip King Pedals (pedals were not purchased new with bike.  I already 
had these pedals.  They are used, but in good working order).

Schwalbe Marathon Supreme Tires - 700 x 35

Wheels are 36 spoke Velocity Dyad/Shimano LX hubs built by Rick Linsek of 
RBW

Sugino XD2 46/36/24 crankset with 172.5 crank arms

Shimano Deore XT front derailleur

Shimano XT 9 speed rear derailleur

Tekrto R 559 Brakes

11-32 9 speed cassette

Nitto Technomic  9 cm stem (This is not original stem, had to get 26.0 
clamp stem for Noodle Bar)

Seatpost, bottom bracket, and headset were included with the frame from RBW

 

$1,950.00 plus shipping.  I will have my local bike shop pack and box the 
bike for shipping at my expense.  Buyer pays actual shipping cost. 
 Estimated shipping cost is $150.00.   

 

See photos here:

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/145331710@N03/albums/72157670676236982

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[RBW] GF looking for riv bike size 50

[Abcyclehank]

Jonathan,

A nice shaped 1994 Bridgestone RB-T was picked up at an Estate Sale.  50cm 
green.  Bar end shifters 21 speed.
Let me know if you want more details.

Ryan
(Not SF local)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

[René Sterental]

Here is some empirical learnings:

When Rick at D&D (RBW official/recommended painter, who apparently also
painted my custom for Steve Rex) re-painted my Homer and my Hunqapillar, he
told me that paint needed a long period of time to "cure" or whatever the
correct term is, and until that process was complete, it was very prone to
chipping easily. He sort of recommended I leave my bikes hanging for at
least a month before riding them to allow this to happen.

With many of the Waterford bikes that are custom made for a specific order,
the time between the painting being applied and the customer getting the
fully assembled bike and riding it may still be too short (speculation
here) and so in its early days, the bike may be more prone to chipping the
paint than when it's older. This, of course, excludes large hits, prolonged
rubbing, falls against sharp objects, etc., that will chip/scratch the
paint no matter what.

I also feel your paint, but now that your bike has its first real
scratch/chip, it may be ages before you get another one... such is paint
karma!

Of course, some of us go bezerk no matter when it happens, and calling it
beausage is just a "pretend" name to feel OK with it. Others don't really
care. It must be in the genes, because it turns out that my son is just
like me with his stuff in this regard.

Best,

René

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Patrick, I saw that setup when I first started looking at Fiats. I'm not
> convinced that little plastic spoiler is a good base for a rack clamp (the
> one on my convertible top *definitely* isn't).
>
> Yes, back in the olden times people would modify 500/600s with Abarth
> parts. My 500 Abarth is a twice-the-size homage to them :)
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[RBW] Re: SUNRACE One-At-a-Time shifter maintenance?

[ian m]

I appreciate the offer for the spare, but I'll probably get some silver 
shifters in the near future and mount them on the Sunrace clamp. Just 
wanted to see if they could get better before they get replaced. Sadly 
short life span.

On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 5:34:07 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I don't have maintenance advice but I did disassemble a pair of these 
> shifters to use the clamping part for one project and the cable stop part 
> for another project.  The shifter part is the only part that remains.  You 
> can just have it if you want.  Pay it forward to somebody who needs 
> something.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 2:16:40 PM UTC-7, ian m wrote:
>>
>> I've been running these for about a year and a half now, and for the past 
>> half the left shifter has been increasingly terrible. On the push it sounds 
>> and shifts fine, but on the pull it sticks, skips, makes horrific sounds, 
>> etc. It's now at the point where it's virtually unusable. Has anyone had 
>> any luck pulling these apart to maintain them? I usually shy away from 
>> parts with small bits that are easily lost, but figured I'd give it a go 
>> before scrapping it.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Bags, Racks, etc.

[Steve Butcher]

The Silver Hupe has now sold and making it's way to Fairbanks, Alaska.  If 
someone would be interested in the Saddlesack and Nitto R-10 together, I'd 
negotiate a "package deal".  

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 7:47:14 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> Hello, I'm offering for sale the following items I'm not using.  Photos 
> can be sent to interested buyers as needed.  
>
> 1.  Rivendell Saddlesack size medium olive in gently used condition with 
> extra pair of 15 inch Sackville buckle straps- $185.00
> 2.  Nitto R-10 rear rack with extra set of 42 cm stays-$100.00
> 3.  VO Randonneur Front Rack with decaleur kit for 1 inch threaded 
> stem-$90.00
> 4.  VO Rackaleur-$20.00
> 5.  Rivendell Silver Hupe-$20.00
> 6.  Revelate Designs-Jerrycan in digital camo for Regular frame (the 
> velcro on the frame strap has been trimmed to fit a narrow steel frame 
> tube)-$20.00
> 7.  Lesyne XL seat bag in black nylon-$20.00
> 8.  Nitto f-16 front handlebar hook bag supporter-$50.00
>
> All items are in very good condition and prices are plus shipping CONUS.  
> Please send me a PM if you have any questions.  Thanks for looking.  Steve.
>

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[RBW] Re: GF looking for riv bike size 50

[Ryan Fleming]

I just saw this on internet-bob today

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/internet-bob/z_zqkmcMk68  


Fellow lives in Boston but will ship the Chev for 1100.00 - frame only , 
mind you

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 8:57:54 PM UTC-5, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
>
> Girlfriend is looking for a riv bike in good condition for sale in the bay 
> area. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

[Joe Bernard]

Patrick, I saw that setup when I first started looking at Fiats. I'm not 
convinced that little plastic spoiler is a good base for a rack clamp (the one 
on my convertible top *definitely* isn't).

Yes, back in the olden times people would modify 500/600s with Abarth parts. My 
500 Abarth is a twice-the-size homage to them :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

[Patrick Moore]

It was long, long ago (in a galaxy far, far away, too) but my first Riv
custom, early 1995, Waterford built and painted, had very nice green paint
that chipped easily. I have to add, too, that in my limited experience with
trunk racks, I've never had one chip my paint.

Patrick "if you don't like it, you can chip my paint" Moore

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Bob B  wrote:

> I kinda feel like venting on this topic. My 3-week old Hunq got a big
> paint chip on the top tube. I'm not faulting Riv or Waterford; I didn't see
> it happen and can't speak with much knowledge to the quality of Waterford
> paint compared to others. But since it's so new it kinda sucks.
>
> I think it happened while transporting the bike on a trunk rack on my car.
> The chip occurred close to where the TT had been strapped to the rack...
> the typical soft plastic/rubber kind on car racks. I guess I should add
> another layer of something for extra cushion next time. But Ive been using
> that rack forever, never have seen that happen. I wonder if that's grounds
> to say the Waterford paint is "prone to chipping."
>
> I didn't build a show bike and I'm on board with *beausage* and will
> probably end up doing the fingernail polish thing. I will surely ride this
> bike so heavily that other chips will happen and I won't care anymore.
> Maybe it had nothing to do with Waterford's paint job and all to do with my
> rack and what bump or pot hole I may have ran over. But it still sucks it
> happened while this—my first Rivendell—is brand-spanking-new.
>
> Onward, to more riding!
>
> Thank you for letting me vent.
>
> Bob B
> Brooklyn, NY
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[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

[Jonathan Anderson]

Oh boy, I've been waiting for a thread like this! I was installing a front 
rack in my building's bike garage and thoughtlessly leaned my bike against 
a haggard ebike to admire my work. It slipped and the TT scraped 
(screeeach) against the licence plate hanger of the ebike. My Clem, yes, 
just a Clem..., suffered a couple nice scratches, including a nice black 
one that I have not been able to remove the paint from (my bike is 
blue...).  This has been weighing on my mind ever since.  So careless!! I 
considered thrashing my bike on the trails to lessen the burden of guilt, 
but soon realized it would only make things worse. While I'm sure the Clem 
will weather magnificently, I struggle to reconcile the erroneous manner in 
which it happened. I also blame the ebike, but that hasn't helped much. 
Everyone hates those things. Kind of feel bad for it, actually... 

I've also warped my back wheel/rim launching off a doozy of a curb, but 
that was somehow worth it... Perfect two-wheel landing straight into a 
trail. Still feels good. Does RBW sell the 650B DM18's? 

Point is, I feel your pain. Really. Not that any of this has anything to do 
with Waterford.  

J

On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 3:04:53 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> I feel your pain! I did the same thing on a car rack on my new A. Homer 
> Hilsen! (Waterford built). Mine happened on the seat tube and took some of 
> the decal with it! I sealed it up with clear nail polish but knowing  it 
> was my own doing and could have been prevented, is salt in the wound!
>
> On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 2:49:43 PM UTC-4, Bob B wrote:
>
>> I kinda feel like venting on this topic. My 3-week old Hunq got a big 
>> paint chip on the top tube. I'm not faulting Riv or Waterford; I didn't see 
>> it happen and can't speak with much knowledge to the quality of Waterford 
>> paint compared to others. But since it's so new it kinda sucks.
>>
>> I think it happened while transporting the bike on a trunk rack on my 
>> car. The chip occurred close to where the TT had been strapped to 
>> the rack... the typical soft plastic/rubber kind on car racks. I guess I 
>> should add another layer of something for extra cushion next time. But Ive 
>> been using that rack forever, never have seen that happen. I wonder if 
>> that's grounds to say the Waterford paint is "prone to chipping."
>>
>> I didn't build a show bike and I'm on board with *beausage* and will 
>> probably end up doing the fingernail polish thing. I will surely ride this 
>> bike so heavily that other chips will happen and I won't care anymore. 
>> Maybe it had nothing to do with Waterford's paint job and all to do with my 
>> rack and what bump or pot hole I may have ran over. But it still sucks it 
>> happened while this—my first Rivendell—is brand-spanking-new. 
>>
>> Onward, to more riding!
>>
>> Thank you for letting me vent.
>>
>> Bob B
>> Brooklyn, NY
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

[Bob B]

> I despise those trunk racks.


Yep, me too! I put it in the back (of my Subaru wagon) when I can flip down 
the rear passenger seats, but this time I was traveling with people in the 
back seat, and in case you didn't know, 58cm Hunqs are huge. No way i was 
getting that in the cargo area of my trunk. (I tried!) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

[Joe Bernard]

I despise those trunk racks. I'm in the process of adding cable splitters to my 
Appaloosa so I can remove wheels and bars, then put the frame in the back of my 
little Fiat. I won't transport it often, but it's going semi-rinko when I do. 

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[RBW] Re: SUNRACE One-At-a-Time shifter maintenance?

[Joe Bernard]

I tried these on the Clem I rode at RBW. Kudos to anyone who can ride them, I'm 
not that guy. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

[Bill Lindsay]

True.  You say "trunk rack" and I hear "paint destroyer"

On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 08/04/2016 02:49 PM, Bob B wrote: 
> > I think it happened while transporting the bike on a trunk rack on my 
> > car. 
>
> Racks like that are notorious for doing that to bicycle paint jobs.   
> Ditch the trunk rack and get a wagon, where you can carry the bike 
> inside, or a roof rack (but if you do, be careful around garages). 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/04/2016 02:49 PM, Bob B wrote:
I think it happened while transporting the bike on a trunk rack on my 
car. 


Racks like that are notorious for doing that to bicycle paint jobs.   
Ditch the trunk rack and get a wagon, where you can carry the bike 
inside, or a roof rack (but if you do, be careful around garages).



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[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

[Brian Campbell]

Bob,

I feel your pain! I did the same thing on a car rack on my new A. Homer 
Hilsen! (Waterford built). Mine happened on the seat tube and took some of 
the decal with it! I sealed it up with clear nail polish but knowing  it 
was my own doing and could have been prevented, is salt in the wound!

On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 2:49:43 PM UTC-4, Bob B wrote:

> I kinda feel like venting on this topic. My 3-week old Hunq got a big 
> paint chip on the top tube. I'm not faulting Riv or Waterford; I didn't see 
> it happen and can't speak with much knowledge to the quality of Waterford 
> paint compared to others. But since it's so new it kinda sucks.
>
> I think it happened while transporting the bike on a trunk rack on my car. 
> The chip occurred close to where the TT had been strapped to the rack... 
> the typical soft plastic/rubber kind on car racks. I guess I should add 
> another layer of something for extra cushion next time. But Ive been using 
> that rack forever, never have seen that happen. I wonder if that's grounds 
> to say the Waterford paint is "prone to chipping."
>
> I didn't build a show bike and I'm on board with *beausage* and will 
> probably end up doing the fingernail polish thing. I will surely ride this 
> bike so heavily that other chips will happen and I won't care anymore. 
> Maybe it had nothing to do with Waterford's paint job and all to do with my 
> rack and what bump or pot hole I may have ran over. But it still sucks it 
> happened while this—my first Rivendell—is brand-spanking-new. 
>
> Onward, to more riding!
>
> Thank you for letting me vent.
>
> Bob B
> Brooklyn, NY
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Road Brake Levers

[Ryan Fleming]

yes I noticed in pictures of your 109 mile jaunt...says Ryan whose max is 
50 miles on the prairie...a challenge if it's super windy , or howling 
thunderstorm , otherwise not so bad

On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 8:03:27 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Exactly, Ryan. I have the Tiagras on the QuickBeam and love them.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 10:22:58 AM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> Tiagras for the M-bars I expect? Reasonably priced  and they work really 
>> well
>>
>> On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 8:18:40 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who replied! I've decided to go with new levers from 
>>> Rivendell, so I'm all set!
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 10:27:53 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Aero or non-aero is fine. Please reply off list. Thanks!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: SUNRACE One-At-a-Time shifter maintenance?

[masmojo]

I have these on 3 bikes, generally they are OK, but the right one I struggle 
with from time to time.
I recently was using my Rawland which has Silver Shifters and was really 
noticing how much better they worked Vs. the Sun Race.
Check the tightness of the retaining screw, it may be loose!?

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[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

[Bob B]

I kinda feel like venting on this topic. My 3-week old Hunq got a big paint 
chip on the top tube. I'm not faulting Riv or Waterford; I didn't see it 
happen and can't speak with much knowledge to the quality of Waterford 
paint compared to others. But since it's so new it kinda sucks.

I think it happened while transporting the bike on a trunk rack on my car. 
The chip occurred close to where the TT had been strapped to the rack... 
the typical soft plastic/rubber kind on car racks. I guess I should add 
another layer of something for extra cushion next time. But Ive been using 
that rack forever, never have seen that happen. I wonder if that's grounds 
to say the Waterford paint is "prone to chipping."

I didn't build a show bike and I'm on board with *beausage* and will 
probably end up doing the fingernail polish thing. I will surely ride this 
bike so heavily that other chips will happen and I won't care anymore. 
Maybe it had nothing to do with Waterford's paint job and all to do with my 
rack and what bump or pot hole I may have ran over. But it still sucks it 
happened while this—my first Rivendell—is brand-spanking-new. 

Onward, to more riding!

Thank you for letting me vent.

Bob B
Brooklyn, NY

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Jaunt

[Deacon Patrick]

Ha! From the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary:


   - *1* A tiring or troublesome journey. Now only as an iron. use of sense 
   2. l16.
   - *2* An excursion, a journey; *esp.* a pleasure trip. l17.

Certainly it wasn't troublesome, but I was tired after it. Grin. Also, 
there was a Winnie the Pooh "tra-la-la" quality to the middle half that 
follows the rivers. Rather an idyllic ramble or jaunt. One "trick" I've 
learned to longer Quickbeam rides is to incorporate the "tra-la-la" aspect 
at every opportunity. Challenging to do cranking up a 10 mile climb, but 
I'm working on it! Grin. 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 11:07:15 AM UTC-6, JohnS wrote:
>
> Hello DP,
>
> What an epic and beautiful ride! But calling it a jaunt at 109 miles 
> doesn't seem to fit. The ride I did this morning of 25 miles on my QB is 
> more to my idea of a short excursion for pleasure, not to say your's wasn't 
> pleasurable, just not short.
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 10:54:02 AM UTC-4, S. Greco wrote:
>>
>> I always loved the silver Quickbeams, nice lookin' build.
>> That looks like an epic ride, and beautiful pictures too. 
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Jaunt

[JohnS]

Hello DP,

What an epic and beautiful ride! But calling it a jaunt at 109 miles 
doesn't seem to fit. The ride I did this morning of 25 miles on my QB is 
more to my idea of a short excursion for pleasure, not to say your's wasn't 
pleasurable, just not short.

JohnS


On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 10:54:02 AM UTC-4, S. Greco wrote:
>
> I always loved the silver Quickbeams, nice lookin' build.
> That looks like an epic ride, and beautiful pictures too. 
>
> - Steve
>

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Bicycle Quarterly back issues

[Reed Kennedy]

I've tracked down most of the recent issues (thanks folks!) but I'm still
looking for these if anybody has them available:

Any prior to BQ 15 (Vol. 4, No. 3, Spring 2006)
16 (Vol. 4, No. 4, Summer 2006)
18 (Vol. 5, No. 2, Winter 2006)
20 (Vol. 5, No. 4, Summer 2007)
21 (Vol. 6, No. 1, Autumn 2007)
23 (Vol. 6, No. 3, Spring 2008)
24 (Vol. 6, No. 4, Summer 2008)
25 (Vol. 7, No. 1, Autumn 2008)
26 (Vol. 7, No. 2, Winter 2008)
27 (Vol. 7, No. 3, Spring 2009)
28 (Vol. 7, No. 4, Summer 2009)
30 (Vol. 8, No. 2, Winter 2009)
31 (Vol. 8, No. 3, Spring 2010)
32 (Vol. 8, No. 4, Summer 2010)
34 (Vol. 9, No. 2, Winter 2010)

Best,
Reed

On Wednesday, August 3, 2016, Lungimsam  wrote:

> Any specifically you are looking for?
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[RBW] Are all Choco-moose bars TIG'd?

[Clayton.sf]

Choco-moose have always been tigged.

Boscos and Bulls used to be filleted, but appear to be transitioning to tigged.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Trade: Large Sackville for Medium Sackville?

[Will Ashe]

Thanks, but already worked out another deal for mine. Best of luck. 

On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 9:24:01 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Straight up. Color is olive. 
>
>
> On Monday, August 1, 2016 at 4:11:27 PM UTC-7, Will Ashe wrote:
>>
>> Straight up trade? What color?
>
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[RBW] Are all Choco-moose bars TIG'd?

[Joe Bernard]

Albastache has more reach, no middle flat to grab, and takes road brake levers. 

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[RBW] Re: Are all Choco-moose bars TIG'd?

[David Banzer]

Looks like all 'moose' varieties are now TIG-welded.
David
Chicago

On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 9:52:22 AM UTC-5, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> I picked up some OE bars from a Joe Appa for a build and was admittedly 
> disappointed to set TIG'd joints as opposed to the filet brazen 
> craftsmanship you would expect on a $160 moosey bar.  Is this like the Clem 
> Bosco-moose vs. the a la carte?
>
> Also,  how are a choco bars really that different from an albastache?
>
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Jaunt

[S. Greco]

I always loved the silver Quickbeams, nice lookin' build.
That looks like an epic ride, and beautiful pictures too. 

- Steve

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[RBW] Are all Choco-moose bars TIG'd?

[Conway Bennett]

I picked up some OE bars from a Joe Appa for a build and was admittedly 
disappointed to set TIG'd joints as opposed to the filet brazen craftsmanship 
you would expect on a $160 moosey bar.  Is this like the Clem Bosco-moose vs. 
the a la carte?

Also,  how are a choco bars really that different from an albastache?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Roscoe Bubbe

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Oops. Did not see Chris' initial post, only the second.

On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 9:23:01 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
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>
> Having (ex) in-laws from Illinois and Nebraska, I can tell you that Surly 
> is John Deere green & yellow, so technically a machine. But not machine 
> green.
>
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[RBW] Re: Gravel & Grind's First Annual Rivendell + Bridgestone Owners Bunch Coffee Ride and Social

[Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes]

We have an awesome ride planned for our upcoming coffee outside social.  I 
hope DC area riders can make it out!  The weather has been breaking as 
well, so unless it rains, we should have a good day of mountain riding.  
 I added a ride cue for the August 14th Riv and B stone Coffee Ride and 
Social here:  https://ridewithgps.com/routes/15503887 

Also added some pictures of the ride area at the facebook events page for 
the ride, here:  https://www.facebook.com/events/826464890824369/  








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