[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[Kellie]

I wish but a bit too big.

On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 8:47:11 PM UTC-7, bo richardson wrote:
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> I assume if you would consider a 53 you would have said so

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[RBW] Building bicycles in the US

[Curtis McKenzie]

Interesting reading.
http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/making-bicycles-in-detroit-is-an-uphill-ride

Ride well,

Curtis

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[RBW] Re: FS Brooks, Ortlieb, XT, Sugino, Suntour, Schwalbe, PDW...

[ant ritchey]

Update, bump and some price drops.

Here's what's left:

Tektro Interruptors RL-720 black bracket/silver lever, light use only  $20
Shimano front derailer FD-2303, braze-on style w/ adapter clamp 31.8, 
silver, good condition  $10
Shimano front derailer FD-2303 31.8 clamp, black bracket/silver cage, good 
condition  $5
Shimano front derailer FD-M590, black clamp/silver cage, 34.9 clamp, brand 
new  $10
Schwalbe Big Apples 700x50, pair, <100 miles, very good condition,  $40/pair
Dura Ace bar end shifters, 9 Speed, light scuffing, good condition,  
$60/pair
Rivendell Silver bar end shifters, very good condition, $60/pair
Sugino XD2 175mm, 46-36-24, <200 miles, like-new condition, chainrings look 
great,  $85
PDW Bourbon grips, black or brown, used but very good condition,  $20/pair
Brooks B17 black, fair condition, no cracks, no tears, some scuffing, a 
very solid saddle with many years left $50 
Kenda Small Block Eight 29 x 2.1, folding, some wear on one tire, good 
condition,  $20/pair
XT headset, late 80's era, black, fair condition,  $5
Ortlieb backpack, messenger "classic", black, good condition,  $70
Truvativ Triple 172.5mm 52-42-30, silver/brushed, some scuffs but good 
condition  $20
105 front derailer, black clamp/silver cage, FD-5703, 28.6 clamp, light 
scuffing, good condition  $10
105 rear derailer, black body/silver cage, RD-5701, slight scuffing, good 
condition  $15 
Suntour Mountech front & rear derailer, (from '84 stumpy) a lil dirty but 
otherwise very good condition,  $10/f
UNO post, 6061 brushed, never installed brand new, 27.0x300mm  $10
System 1 quill stem, (from '93 XO-2), 26.0 clamp, silver, good condition  $7

Don't be afraid to hit me up for pictures, y'all.


On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 2:02:58 PM UTC-7, ant ritchey wrote:
>
> Hey all.  A mid-summer's workshop clean out.  A long list because my 
> significant other has asked me to list some stuff for her, as well.  Ah, 
> love.
>   
> Message off-list if you're interested.
>
> Shimano Tiagra levers (the ones RBW sells), black hoods/silver levers, 
> light use only  $25
> Shimano MTB levers (the ones RBW sells), installed & removed  $20
> Tektro Interruptors RL-720 black bracket/silver lever, light use only  $20
> Shimano front derailer FD-2303, braze-on style w/ adapter clamp 31.8, 
> silver, good condition  $15
> Shimano front derailer FD-2303 31.8 clamp, black bracket/silver cage, good 
> condition  $7
> Shimano front derailer FD-M590, black clamp/silver cage, 34.9 clamp, brand 
> new  $10
> San Francisco to Santa Barbara Adventure Cycling Map, saw 1 week on the 
> road, very good condition  $8 shipped
> Schwalbe Big Apples 700x50, pair, <100 miles  $45/pair
> Dura Ace bar end shifters, 9 Speed, light scuffing, good condition  
> $65/pair
> Rivendell Silver bar end shifters, very good condition  $60/pair
> Sugino XD2 175mm, 46-36-24, <200 miles, very good condition  $90
> XT rear derailer, 9 speed, RD-M771, silver body/black cage, very good 
> condition  $50
> IRD Alpina front derailer (purchased from RBW) w/ Origin8 clamp, silver, 
> very good condition  $30 w/ clamp
> Shimano Alfine generator hub, brand new, 36h, silver,  $55
> PDW Bourbon grips, black or brown, used but very good condition  $20/pair
> Brooks B17 black, fair condition, less than 1cm of bolt-turning, no cracks 
> or tears, some scuffing, text/email for pics $50 
> Kenda Small Block Eight 29 x 2.1, folding, some wear on one tire, good 
> condition,  $25/pair
> XT headset, late 80's era, black, fair condition  $8
> Ortlieb backpack, messenger "classic", black, good condition  $70
> Truvativ Triple 172.5mm 52-42-30, silver/brushed, some scuffs but good 
> condition  $20
> 105 front derailer, black clamp/silver cage, FD-5703, 28.6 clamp, light 
> scuffing, good condition  $10
> 105 rear derailer, black body/silver cage, RD-5701, slight scuffing, good 
> condition  $15
> 105 brifters, 2x10 spd, black, ST-5700, good condition  $50 
> Suntour Mountech front & rear derailer, (from '84 stumpy) a lil dirty but 
> otherwise very good condition,  $15/set
> UNO post, 6061 brushed, never installed brand new, 27.0x300mm  $10
> System 1 quill stem, (from '93 XO-2), 26.0 clamp, silver, good condition  
> $10
> Dia Compe 980 canti set, no pads, lil dirt but good condition  $10/set
> Supernova E3 Pro headlight, grey w/ matching Airstream taillight, brand 
> new  $160
>
> PERSNICKETY TRADE INTEREST LIST:
> Paul moon units, Paul rack adapter bolt , Schmidt edelux II, Son hub, Rat 
> trap pass gumwall, Pass & Stow, Schwable Super Moto 26x2.35, WI duo 
> freewheel, Salsa anything cage (silver), Nitto Albatross aluminum, 
> Sackville medium saddlebag tan, Sackville shopsack tan (either size), Nitto 
> m12 or similar, Carradice nelson longflap, Resist Nomad 26x2.25 gumwall, 
> Sackville Backabike panniers tan, fancy-ish 650b wheelset, King Iris cages, 
> Nitto dirt drop stem 8 or 10, older mtb f/f's sized 24" & up... 
>
> Unless otherwise noted, shipping not included.  Paypal 

[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[bo richardson]

I assume if you would consider a 53 you would have said so

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[RBW] Re: Days like this acclimate us for Autumn!

[Deacon Patrick]

Hey Doug! September is our usual for fist snow, but it all depends on 
where/how you measure. We've had snow at 13,000+ ft. on the Peak a few 
times this summer. But as far as where I live and ride, latter half of 
September. But I won't get snowed off the trails usually until November or 
December, though it gets more challenging. Helps to be stupid. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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> Great photos Patrick, thanks for sharing. I need to get out for more rides 
> like this. I heard of a chance of some snow in the higher elevations this 
> weekend, any signs in your area? My Northern Minnesota area is starting to 
> see nighttime lows in the 40s now but no snow likely until October. My Hunq 
> could use a good gravel grinder workout. 

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[RBW] Days like this acclimate us for Autumn!

[Doug M]

Great photos Patrick, thanks for sharing. I need to get out for more rides like 
this. I heard of a chance of some snow in the higher elevations this weekend, 
any signs in your area? My Northern Minnesota area is starting to see nighttime 
lows in the 40s now but no snow likely until October. My Hunq could use a good 
gravel grinder workout. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[Kellie]

No, bought it from Bruce, back east; can't remember his last name.
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 5:41:33 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> That's beautiful. Phil Bickford's bike?

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

That's beautiful. Phil Bickford's bike?

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[RBW] Re: Covered Bridge Metric Century, Lancaster PA 8/21

[JohnS]

My goal is to be on the road by 8:00 and to be done by 1:00, taking only 
one or two short breaks. I'm not planning to eat at the lunch stop. This 
way I should be back to my van before the worst of the weather starts, 
which looks to be around 4:00. 

JohnS


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> Anyone interested in joining me for the Covered Bridge Metric Century in 
> Lancaster PA on 8/21? I had rode it about 7 years ago and it was a blast. 
> Very well organized with course marshals at most intersections waving the 
> riders on, almost non stop riding, plus you get to cross a bunch of covered 
> bridges. As I recall mostly rolling hills with a long climb just before the 
> mid point rest stop. At this time I'm planning to ride my Salsa Casseroll, 
> but would consider riding my 2 speed QB if we build a Riv contingency. I 
> would advise registering soon if you want to go. Details at...
>
> http://lancasterbikeclub.net/cbmc.html
>
> Thanks,
> JohnS
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[Kellie]

Hi Joe: I was really lucky about 1-1/2 yrs. ago and got a 50cm Saluki frame 
off this list. 10 yrs. old and in excellent condition. Here it is. Still 
hoping for an Atlantis.

On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 3:52:33 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> I'm afraid you may need to pop for a new one if your heart is set on that 
> model. They're not coming up used very often anymore, and I rarely see one 
> smaller than 53. Or you can get a Clem 45cm with 26-inch wheels, which 
> should have a similar fit. I just sold one..it's a great bike. 

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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass: reviews? impressions? poetic waxings?

[Rod Holland]

They're certainly not cheap, but they're also not bald. Low profile file tread. 
Pretty grippy, in my experience. Not Paselas, different feel, but also not 
Kojaks... and not water skis...

rod

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[RBW] Re: RB-1 tire clearence and rear spacing

[Austin B]

I fit 28mm tires & Velocity A23 rims on my 1989 RB-1 with no problems. 



On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:31:38 PM UTC-4, Patrick Shea wrote:
>
> It's been awhile since I've owned an RB-1 and have a chance to get a frame 
> at a great price. I can't remember (age) if the frame will handle 28c 
> tires. Also, can it handle 9-speeds without a reset of the rear dropouts? 
>
> Thanks in advance for the help,
> Patrick Shea
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[Bob Lovejoy]

Scratch my HC front rack idea...  A Mark's rack it will be!

Ahh, the details...

Bob


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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[Bob Lovejoy]

Congrats Sean!   

Like I said, a bike that makes one smile (and remember the smile!) is a 
great thing...  I am envious of your chance to ride a Cheviot before 
ordering.  Not that I have any doubts but it would have been nice.  

My build should end up very close to yours, Tubus rear rack, Albatross 
bars, etc.  I have a Haulin' Colin front rack that might work and will be 
good for experimenting, otherwise it will be a Mark's like yours.  And I 
agree with Joe that the grey makes it possible to do a lot of subtle (or 
not) things with color and accents.

Anyway, congratulations!  May the frames arrive quickly, at least at the 
perfect time, and be destined for great rides and fun.

I will say I think I am ahead of you on the mixte issue!  I ride a yellow 
Brompton folding bike a lot, for commuting, for errands, for fun, etc. and 
with that, any sense of being seen as 100% normal faded some time ago. But 
people see how useful it is, how much fun is possible, what change can look 
like and it all works out well, mostly.  :>)

Enjoy the new (future) bike and ride!

Bob   


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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

I'm afraid you may need to pop for a new one if your heart is set on that 
model. They're not coming up used very often anymore, and I rarely see one 
smaller than 53. Or you can get a Clem 45cm with 26-inch wheels, which should 
have a similar fit. I just sold one..it's a great bike. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[Joe Bernard]

I think that bike looks great in grey. One cool thing about that color is you 
can "paint" it with bar tape, cages and cables to brighten it up later if you'd 
like. Red accents would be awesome!

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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass: reviews? impressions? poetic waxings?

[Philip Kim]

These tires are expensive but fast. Corners like you might expect from a bald 
tire though I don't push it. I think it might be a diff story if there were 
actually wide 26 rim brake rims for these tires. Most of them are in the 17-20 
internal width range. Grip is pretty decent, but Thunder Burts they are not. I 
view them as plusher road tires. If I did gravel or off road, I would choose 
Thunder Burts or something else.

I sold the standards to "upgrade" to ELs. So far don't think EL's are worth the 
price. Was just in G and got standards to put on once I wear through the ELs. 
Same amount of tread, walls are thinner, more difficult to seat the bead 
tubeless. Tread life is less of a worry than sidewall damage.

If you are value-oriented or prioritize grip, there are some better tires, but 
if you wanna go fast these are the way to go.

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[RBW] Days like this acclimate us for Autumn!

[Deacon Patrick]

Took off at 7am, 42˚F, foggy, still air. Crisp and delicious. I thought I’d 
post more of the roads I ride to get to the rides, lest I give the impression 
the single track is right out me door. Today, it was two hours away.

The sun burned through the clouds 45 minutes in, which my toes and hands 
appreciated. My only concession to the crisp was knickers instead of shorts. 
Beautiful clear day, blue skies.

Photos say more and better, so here you go. Scroll right for the full bunch.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/28829002380/in/album-72157669334583115/

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Covered Bridge Metric Century, Lancaster PA 8/21

[B. Keal]

I'm 60/40 "in" right now. I figure if I roll out by 7:30 or so that I can 
(maybe) get a quick few hours of riding in before the rain really comes. 
Haven't looked into bailouts to the shorter routes, but that's likely a 
possibility if things get hairy, too.

Plus, I just reverted to my trusty ol' fenders and Jack Browns on my Sam for 
the ride, so it'd be a shame to just take 'em off again with nothing to show 
for it.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[Kellie]

still looking

On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
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> Prefer frame but *may* consider complete.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Covered Bridge Metric Century, Lancaster PA 8/21

[David Hallerman]

And if it were sunny, I still wouldn't do this ride again. Did it about 6 years 
ago, and the one major downside is very little shade on the route. Most of the 
roads through open fields, and a hot sun is unrelenting.

Would be a much better ride in early October.

> On Aug 20, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Jeff Lesperance  
> wrote:
> 
> Weather forecast is not getting any better for tomorrow on the route. I'm 
> moving my status to questionable. I really don't mind riding in the rain on 
> occasion but I'm not sure I'm keen to ride in predicted thunderstorms all day.
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>> Back in the day, they didn't have a total rider limit and they allowed 
>> pacelines.  After several years with a number of bad crashes, they decided 
>> to cut back on the number of riders and actively discourage pacelines.  Bike 
>> VA bans pacelines for the same reason.  Pacelines may be just dandy for a 
>> relatively small group of experienced, practiced people who know each other 
>> and have trained together, but with a large mix of total strangers of 
>> varying skill levels, pacelines can become very dangerous indeed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 08/19/2016 05:36 PM, Lungimsam wrote:
>>> I was glad to see that they discouraged pacelines  in their mailer.
>>> 
>>> I guess after the ride I'll have to hose off any mud from the inside of my 
>>> fenders.
>>> 
>>> I'll have to remember to unscrew the lid before drinking from my water 
>>> bottles.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Covered Bridge Metric Century, Lancaster PA 8/21

[Jeff Lesperance]

Weather forecast is not getting any better for tomorrow on the route. I'm
moving my status to questionable. I really don't mind riding in the rain on
occasion but I'm not sure I'm keen to ride in predicted thunderstorms all
day.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> Back in the day, they didn't have a total rider limit and they allowed
> pacelines.  After several years with a number of bad crashes, they decided
> to cut back on the number of riders and actively discourage pacelines.
> Bike VA bans pacelines for the same reason.  Pacelines may be just dandy
> for a relatively small group of experienced, practiced people who know each
> other and have trained together, but with a large mix of total strangers of
> varying skill levels, pacelines can become very dangerous indeed.
>
>
>
> On 08/19/2016 05:36 PM, Lungimsam wrote:
>
>> I was glad to see that they discouraged pacelines  in their mailer.
>>
>> I guess after the ride I'll have to hose off any mud from the inside of
>> my fenders.
>>
>> I'll have to remember to unscrew the lid before drinking from my water
>> bottles.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam Wheelset

[cyclotourist]

Sold, and soon to be shipped across the continent!

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:23 PM, cyclotourist 
wrote:

> Rivendell original Quickbeam wheelset. Suzue tall flange hubs. 32 spokes.
> Freewheel included, but q/r skewers are not. Low mileage, dry California
> lifestyle. 100mm front, 120mm rear spacing.
>
> $100 total, *shipped* to your home or place of business. Paypal, check,
> cash, whatever works.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/28805959216
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/28805961006/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/29098869245/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/29066273766/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/28480654923/
>
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> David
>
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>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[SeanMac]

I wanted to again thank everyone for their comments about the Rivendell 
Cheviot.  I'm happy to say that I did finally pull the trigger - a few days 
ago I put a deposit down on a Cheviot!  I decided to go with the grey color 
- 60 cm (my pbh is 86.  I rode a 60 Cheviot a few weeks ago and Riv HQ and 
really felt comfortable on it).  I'm really excited.

I had a hard time choosing between the orange and the grey frame.  I really 
like the orange color.  In the end, however, I decided that the grey color 
would be a bit more understated - which is probably good for a guy who 
still is not 100 % comfortable about the mixtie thing (I am about 92% okay 
with it right now).  I live in a town of less than 7,000 people - we have 
traffic, but not enough that having a bright colored bike is a huge concern.

I plan to use Albatross bars, Brooks B 17 and a front rack (Mark's) and a 
rear rack (Tubus) from a Trek 520 that I now use as my townie.  I also hope 
that I can use the wheels from that bike - they are DT Swiss touring 
wheels.  I ordered a new front and rear derailer (Shimano CX 70 for the 
front and Altus for the rear) and a Sugino XD2 wide/low crank.

Again, thanks for all of your help in making this decision.

Sean


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Re: [RBW] ISO: Triple front derailer with flat cages

[Ron Mc]

bought mine offshore

On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 11:52:24 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> For $80 it had better work like a fine Swiss watch! 
>
> On Aug 18, 2016 7:19 PM, "René Sterental"  
> wrote:
>
>> Yes. I just installed one on my Atlantis with the triple René Herse 
>> crankset that doesn't work with the regular triples.
>>
>> You can find as many as you need in the online Soma Fabrications shop. 
>> It's the Sun XCD front derailleur, all silver, works with 8, 9 or 10 speed 
>> beautifully but it's braze-on, so you need to buy separately the adapter. 
>> Soma is out right now, but RBW has them.f
>> http://store.somafab.com/sunxcdfrde8s.html
>>
>> I also put the rear derailleur on the Atlantis, so it's now a full silver 
>> colored traditional drivetrain, just like it's supposed to be! :-)
>>
>> René 
>>
>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Lungimsam  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know of any new model triple front derailers that are al silver 
>>> and have flat cages, not any with those molded bump outs that can rub the 
>>> chain?
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[RBW] FS. 58cm new Betty Foy $1000 shipped CUSA

[Abcyclehank]

Bridgestone sold
Betty still available.

Ryan "surprised this is still available" Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] ISO: Triple front derailer with flat cages

[Jim Bronson]

For $80 it had better work like a fine Swiss watch!

On Aug 18, 2016 7:19 PM, "René Sterental"  wrote:

> Yes. I just installed one on my Atlantis with the triple René Herse
> crankset that doesn't work with the regular triples.
>
> You can find as many as you need in the online Soma Fabrications shop.
> It's the Sun XCD front derailleur, all silver, works with 8, 9 or 10 speed
> beautifully but it's braze-on, so you need to buy separately the adapter.
> Soma is out right now, but RBW has them.f
> http://store.somafab.com/sunxcdfrde8s.html
>
> I also put the rear derailleur on the Atlantis, so it's now a full silver
> colored traditional drivetrain, just like it's supposed to be! :-)
>
> René
>
> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Lungimsam  wrote:
>
>> Anyone know of any new model triple front derailers that are al silver
>> and have flat cages, not any with those molded bump outs that can rub the
>> chain?
>>
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[RBW] Re: Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

[ant ritchey]

what are those cool bars on the Atlantis?  A Nitto RM-?

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:55:29 AM UTC-7, Gravel & Grind Espresso + 
Bikes wrote:
>
> If you live in the DC area, come on out to Gravel & Grind 
>  Sunday the 14th for our 
> Rivendell and Bridgestone Owners Bunch coffee ride and social. Details at 
> http://gravelandgrind.com/rivendell-bridgestone-coffee/ It looks like a 
> good turn so far but we wanna see tons of cool bikes and meet rad new 
> folks. Unrelated sort of, but these pics are from  recent Sam and Atlantis 
> builds we did. They’ll be at the shop to check out, along with a bunch of 
> other Riv bikes, framesets bags, etc.  
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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass: reviews? impressions? poetic waxings?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I would agree with Gravel & Grind that most designers would be reluctant to 
advertise shortcomings. But I was surprised at just how contradictory this 
review was to the item description (ie, sales copy) on the Compass website. 
Your review in a nutshell: Low mileage, repeated flatting, poor wet weather 
handling, but faster. The product blurb:

*Compass tires are designed to offer optimum performance above all. Their 
supple casing is key to making these tires roll faster than most. It also 
absorbs vibrations and shocks better, making these tires supremely 
comfortable. The tire tread was designed to offer optimum cornering 
adhesion and precision, both in wet and dry conditions.*

*Despite this focus on performance, Compass tires are sensible everyday 
tires. The tread is 3 mm thick in the center to last many miles, unlike 
thinner high-performance tires which are best treated as “event” tires. We 
at Compass ride our tires year-round on the road, on gravel and in the 
city, without any problems and with very, very few flats.*

Maybe there is something about the RTP that makes them different from the 
other tires in the lineup? I have heard of a few people that have reported 
lots of flats on some of the 700C, but most seem to be reporting results 
closer to the ad copy. One theory is that wider tires run with lower 
pressures are less susceptible to being pierced. I'm curious because your 
experience just seems so far from the feedback to this point. More than 
curious, since I will be running these again soon. During the initial run, 
I did not have enough mileage, nor did I ride them in rain or wet, to have 
an opinion or experience on any of the above parameters, though I liked the 
road feel.

On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 11:53:31 AM UTC-4, Gravel & Grind Espresso 
+ Bikes wrote:
>
> No one is gunna claim their tires don't grip in the rain, especially if 
> they live in Seattle.  I don't think these tires have bad grip, for what 
> they are, but Paselas have way more grip, in my experience.  Paselas are 
> also slower feeling, and as the saying goes, there's no free lunch.  Gotta 
> give up something.  One just has to be aware of limitations, with any 
> equipment.  
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 10:10:13 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Thats odd because Heine states that tge tread rubber is super grippy even 
>> in rain,iirc.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: Triple front derailer with flat cages

[Ron Mc]

Ultegra CX70 is a great choice.  I'm running a wide compact double, 42/25T, 
and it's great on the big jump.  The cage is shaped for maximum 48T ring 
and makes sense it would be great on a triple.  

On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 10:46:08 AM UTC-5, Gravel & Grind Espresso 
+ Bikes wrote:
>
> We've set up plenty of CX70's on triples and wide (46/26) range doubles. 
>  They shift nicely.  Stiff, look decent, side plates that don't get in the 
> way.  But a better bet is find an old Shimano R440 front mech, pure silver, 
> cheap, shift well.  That's a great derailleur.  
>
> -James
>
> On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 5:23:02 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Anyone know of any new model triple front derailers that are al silver 
>> and have flat cages, not any with those molded bump outs that can rub the 
>> chain?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass: reviews? impressions? poetic waxings?

[Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes]

No one is gunna claim their tires don't grip in the rain, especially if 
they live in Seattle.  I don't think these tires have bad grip, for what 
they are, but Paselas have way more grip, in my experience.  Paselas are 
also slower feeling, and as the saying goes, there's no free lunch.  Gotta 
give up something.  One just has to be aware of limitations, with any 
equipment.  



On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 10:10:13 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Thats odd because Heine states that tge tread rubber is super grippy even 
> in rain,iirc.

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[RBW] Re: ISO: Triple front derailer with flat cages

[Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes]

We've set up plenty of CX70's on triples and wide (46/26) range doubles. 
 They shift nicely.  Stiff, look decent, side plates that don't get in the 
way.  But a better bet is find an old Shimano R440 front mech, pure silver, 
cheap, shift well.  That's a great derailleur.  

-James

On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 5:23:02 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Anyone know of any new model triple front derailers that are al silver and 
> have flat cages, not any with those molded bump outs that can rub the chain?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: RB-1 tire clearence and rear spacing

[James Warren]

The 1992 RB-1 is very nice with Roly Poly tires.

I would guess that in 1992 and 1993, the clearance did not get tighter.

I know the '91 and '90 would be similar to the '92. I can't speak to years 
prior, because the geometry of RB-1's was changed after '89, and the RB-1 we 
usually talk about had the geometry of 1990 through 1994.

If you don't know the year, do you have any color details of the one you're 
getting?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Patrick Shea  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info! The RB-1 seller got back to me and said the bike was 
> last used with 10-speed Dura Ace. He echoed what Jack said, that the rear end 
> had plenty of clearance for 28s. I feel like I'm going backwards, frame-wise, 
> but my '92 RB-1 was a bike I never should have gotten Big Ideas about. I had 
> a messenger/welder remove the braze-ons and install track ends which meant a 
> homestyle repaint. Previous to the RB-1, I had turned every bike I owned into 
> a fixed gear, anyway, so the RB-1 makeover was the obvious next step. 
> 
> My plan, now, is to put my impulse buy Record 10-speed long cage/Sugino 
> triple stuff on this newer almost impulse buy frame and hit the road.
> 
> As a retired librarian, I really appreciate this list's collective knowledge 
> and willingness to share it. Rock on!
> 
> Cheers,
> Patrick Shea
> 
> PS- a tip o' the Tarik cap to French and Eric for the parts. Sorry it's taken 
> so long to say that. 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Jack K  wrote:
>> Although advertised as 128mm, my '93 RB-1 came spaced wider than that. A 
>> 130mm spaced hub fits with room to spare. Manufacturing variances, no doubt.
>> 
>> Also, the 700x28 Ritchey tires that came stock in '93 are *way* smaller than 
>> any "28" tire I know of today. I actually still have those original 700x28 
>> Tom Slick tires and for giggles installed them on the RB-1 again a couple of 
>> years ago. They are tiny compared to the 700x25 Michelin Pro4 tires on the 
>> bike these days (which are famous for measuring bigger than marked -- the 
>> 25's measure 27mm wide on my Open Pro rims). Even larger tires may fit, lots 
>> of room between chainstays and in fork.The pinch point I see is between the 
>> top of tire and bottom of front brake caliper.  I'm using the original 
>> Superbe Pro calipers, perhaps some other brake would give slightly more 
>> clearance.
>> 
>> -Jack
>> 
>> Raleigh, NC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:46:56 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> It probably depends on the year. By 1993 Grant was setting them up with 128 
>>> rear spacing, which accommodated the 126 hub on the 7-speed and 130 on the 
>>> 8. The 7-speed with single-pivot sidepulls came with 28c tires.
>>> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1993/pages/63.htm
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: RB-1 tire clearence and rear spacing

[Patrick Shea]

Thanks for the info! The RB-1 seller got back to me and said the bike was
last used with 10-speed Dura Ace. He echoed what Jack said, that the rear
end had plenty of clearance for 28s. I feel like I'm going backwards,
frame-wise, but my '92 RB-1 was a bike I never should have gotten Big Ideas
about. I had a messenger/welder remove the braze-ons and install track ends
which meant a homestyle repaint. Previous to the RB-1, I had turned every
bike I owned into a fixed gear, anyway, so the RB-1 makeover was the
obvious next step.

My plan, now, is to put my impulse buy Record 10-speed long cage/Sugino
triple stuff on this newer almost impulse buy frame and hit the road.

As a retired librarian, I really appreciate this list's collective
knowledge and willingness to share it. Rock on!

Cheers,
Patrick Shea

PS- a tip o' the Tarik cap to French and Eric for the parts. Sorry it's
taken so long to say that.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Jack K  wrote:

> Although advertised as 128mm, my '93 RB-1 came spaced wider than that. A
> 130mm spaced hub fits with room to spare. Manufacturing variances, no doubt.
>
> Also, the 700x28 Ritchey tires that came stock in '93 are *way* smaller
> than any "28" tire I know of today. I actually still have those original
> 700x28 Tom Slick tires and for giggles installed them on the RB-1 again a
> couple of years ago. They are tiny compared to the 700x25 Michelin Pro4
> tires on the bike these days (which are famous for measuring bigger than
> marked -- the 25's measure 27mm wide on my Open Pro rims). Even larger
> tires may fit, lots of room between chainstays and in fork.The pinch point
> I see is between the top of tire and bottom of front brake caliper.  I'm
> using the original Superbe Pro calipers, perhaps some other brake would
> give slightly more clearance.
>
> -Jack
>
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:46:56 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> It probably depends on the year. By 1993 Grant was setting them up with
>> 128 rear spacing, which accommodated the 126 hub on the 7-speed and 130 on
>> the 8. The 7-speed with single-pivot sidepulls came with 28c tires.
>>
>> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1993/pages/63.htm
>>
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[RBW] 26x1.75-2" tire recommendations

[true]

I bought a pair or the Tioga Power Blocks on sale 
and have only done around 4 rides on them and am very pleased.

I also have Compass Rat Traps and Maxxis DTH tires on other 26" bikes.

I give the edge to the Rat Traps but cannot justify price on all my 26" bikes 
but
after riding the Power Blocks a bit don't think I am giving up all that much 
for the economies
realized.
They are folding tires, feel pretty supple and roll nicely.

The Maxxis DTH have also proven to be a very nice folding, smooth rolling, 
fairly supple tire
and I give 3rd position to them from my experiences
over various 26" tires I have tried. I guesstimate I have 1200 miles or more on 
them
and they are wearing great, and only one flat I recall. The DTH have proven to 
be very durable to this point.
I sure hope the Power Blocks prove durable as well.
 If so I will be ordering another pair.
>From recall both these and the DTH come in at about 550 g's
and are in the $35 per tire price range.


The Rat Traps have maybe 500 to 600 miles on them and are superior, I think,
 so supple and seemingly fast rolling from my experience. 
They are somewhat lighter than the Power Blocks and DTH tires
but also seem more sensitive to air pressure with my 215 lb heft over the other 
two brands.
I have had 3 or 4 flats on them.  I would love to try them tubeless.

Safe pedaling,

Paul C in Dallas



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[RBW] Re: RB-1 tire clearence and rear spacing

[Jack K]

Although advertised as 128mm, my '93 RB-1 came spaced wider than that. A 
130mm spaced hub fits with room to spare. Manufacturing variances, no doubt.

Also, the 700x28 Ritchey tires that came stock in '93 are *way* smaller 
than any "28" tire I know of today. I actually still have those original 
700x28 Tom Slick tires and for giggles installed them on the RB-1 again a 
couple of years ago. They are tiny compared to the 700x25 Michelin Pro4 
tires on the bike these days (which are famous for measuring bigger than 
marked -- the 25's measure 27mm wide on my Open Pro rims). Even larger 
tires may fit, lots of room between chainstays and in fork.The pinch point 
I see is between the top of tire and bottom of front brake caliper.  I'm 
using the original Superbe Pro calipers, perhaps some other brake would 
give slightly more clearance.

-Jack

Raleigh, NC


On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:46:56 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It probably depends on the year. By 1993 Grant was setting them up with 
> 128 rear spacing, which accommodated the 126 hub on the 7-speed and 130 on 
> the 8. The 7-speed with single-pivot sidepulls came with 28c tires. 
>
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1993/pages/63.htm
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: Triple front derailer with flat cages

[Michael Hechmer]

Thanks for the compliment.  I doubt there is enough flex in this frame. 
Oversize steel tubes.  With the fenders and racks it weighs in at 48 lbs! 
 Here's dome pics I posted this morning.

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B025BydzFxVaj3
Michael

On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 5:31:43 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Tandem frame flexing alot in the middle?
> BTW, I really enjoyed your Rambouillet pics on the Rambouillet site!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam Wheelset

[Matt B.]

I'll take em.  sent you a PM.



On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 11:24:00 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Rivendell original Quickbeam wheelset. Suzue tall flange hubs. 32 spokes. 
> Freewheel included, but q/r skewers are not. Low mileage, dry California 
> lifestyle. 100mm front, 120mm rear spacing. 
>
> $100 total, *shipped* to your home or place of business. Paypal, check, 
> cash, whatever works.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/28805959216
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/28805961006/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/29098869245/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/29066273766/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/28480654923/
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
> David
>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>

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