Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Leah Peterson]

Garth, I laughed out loud at the visual created with "sleigh ride down the 
hillside." Can't tell you why, it was just an apt description and I could feel 
it. 

I'll stick it out with these tires for awhile. I've got hope after reading that 
some others had the same and it improved with mileage.

I'm just so happy to have my bike back. My birthday is this weekend and guess 
what -mama found a new paved bike trail! This means the rest of my family must 
not complain about however many miles I decide we should go. 

Patrick - cool photo. A keepsake. All your ideas were good so, naturally I've 
implemented zero because, well, I don't know anything about that stuff. 
Including how to fix a flat. *Ducks for cover here.* 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 24, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Garth  wrote:
> 
> Get the tires you want Leah ! While the shop owner may think what he put on 
> is swell, but since you're the one that actually rides your bike(along with 
> furry friend), that's about all there is to that. Reminds me of a back seat 
> driver    I once had some Dunlop new auto tires that were supposedly 
> wonderful. on the way home I going down my usual steep hill I was 
> frightened for my life for the first time in my life driving an auto, it felt 
> like the tires were going to come off the rims and I'd be on a sleigh ride 
> down the hillside. Right back to the shop and returned them and have ridden 
> my preferred Michelin tires ever since. You like what you like...
> 
> The Conti tires you had have changed name to the Ride Tour and come in the 
> size you need so have them get some or from some-one. 
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[RBW] Trek - Rivendell gene splicing, or DIY Roscoe project

[Joe Bernard]

Did you really rattle can a Riv fork?? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It appears from the mechanic's notations that Leah posted that the rim was 
a 36-hole Velocity Synergy. 

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 8:19:37 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> I'm curious what those cracking rear rims were. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[Bob Lovejoy]

Knowing there were more important things to do, and not necessarily in 
Cheviot touring mode, it still did not stop me from looking over this the 
other night:

http://www.cyclingabout.com/cargo-cages-anything-cages-oversized-bottle-cages/

I would like it if the Cheviot had more mount points, but at least there 
seem to be a few options to lessen the pain. 
 

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 9:16:11 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 02/24/2017 05:57 PM, Austin ^ wrote:
>
> imo the biggest limiting factor to the cheviot's tour worthiness is its 
> solitary bottle cage. 
>
>
> Would the Two Fish strap on water bottle cage help here?   My AM Moulton 
> has but one water bottle cage, on the front of the seat tube, and I have 
> one of these two fish units on the back of the seat tube as well.
>
>
> [image: Two Fish The Quick Cage Water Bottle Holder]
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've had the same swivel experience with the Two-fish, on bikes with zero 
wbcbos. The strap is also very long. I know, I could cut it. The old style 
metal band mounts that VO now carries work pretty well, though they don't 
work with all cage designs. I have been contemplating Riv nuts on one or 
two old frames. Anybody try that? (Though probably not on a Cheviut.)

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 10:27:49 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> FWIW, I tried a 2-fish, velcro, strap-on cage on the down tube of my '99 
> Joe Starck custom gofast, for which I had foolishly told Grant to limit 
> cage braze ons to the dt. (Grant: you were right, both for the st braze ons 
> and for the sub-73* seat tube angles. But don't tell anyone I acknowledged 
> this.)
>
> Moving on: it works, after a fashion, but it also swivels at the slightest 
> touch. I found that it would swivel far enough from straight line-ahead 
> that my eagerly pumping legs would brush it, much to my annoyance, as I 
> sturdily rode along.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[Bob Lovejoy]

Now we're talking!  Very cool and thanks for the sending...  The trailer 
idea is a good one as well.

I love that answer, especially about bikes... "Because I can."

Thanks!

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 9:22:18 PM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote:
>
> https://www.ahearnecycles.com/blog/2011/1/20/off-road-touring-mixte.html
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/61565718@N05/12844468614
>
> I think a mixte would be an ideal touring bike.  Don't forget you can 
> always pull a bob trailer, too.
>
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[RBW] WTB Paul Thumbies

[bo richardson]

i think i have what you need out in the shed.
i will grab them in the daylight and send a picture to
make sure we are talking about the same things.

bo

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, I tried a 2-fish, velcro, strap-on cage on the down tube of my '99
Joe Starck custom gofast, for which I had foolishly told Grant to limit
cage braze ons to the dt. (Grant: you were right, both for the st braze ons
and for the sub-73* seat tube angles. But don't tell anyone I acknowledged
this.)

Moving on: it works, after a fashion, but it also swivels at the slightest
touch. I found that it would swivel far enough from straight line-ahead
that my eagerly pumping legs would brush it, much to my annoyance, as I
sturdily rode along.

As alternative, I tried various bar-mount bottle cage attachment gizmos.
They work well -- except that, with Riv geometry, the added weight of a 28
oz bottle makes the front wheel flop more than I can comfortably tolerate.

I found a better solution to carrying water was to attach a Carradice --
can't remember the name; it's the smallest one -- to the saddle, and put a
quart bottle inside. Even better, I got D Banzer to make me a nice custom
seat pack, that attaches elegantly to the rails of my Flite, that has a
pocket for a 28oz bottle. Wala.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
>
> On 02/24/2017 05:57 PM, Austin ^ wrote:
>
> imo the biggest limiting factor to the cheviot's tour worthiness is its
> solitary bottle cage.
>
>
> Would the Two Fish strap on water bottle cage help here?   My AM Moulton
> has but one water bottle cage, on the front of the seat tube, and I have
> one of these two fish units on the back of the seat tube as well.
>
>
> [image: Two Fish The Quick Cage Water Bottle Holder]
>
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[RBW] Cheviot touring?

[iamkeith]

https://www.ahearnecycles.com/blog/2011/1/20/off-road-touring-mixte.html

https://www.flickr.com/photos/61565718@N05/12844468614

I think a mixte would be an ideal touring bike.  Don't forget you can always 
pull a bob trailer, too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/24/2017 05:57 PM, Austin ^ wrote:
imo the biggest limiting factor to the cheviot's tour worthiness is 
its solitary bottle cage.


Would the Two Fish strap on water bottle cage help here?   My AM Moulton 
has but one water bottle cage, on the front of the seat tube, and I have 
one of these two fish units on the back of the seat tube as well.



Two Fish The Quick Cage Water Bottle Holder



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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 02/24/2017 06:40 PM, Leah Peterson wrote:

I took back the Bets! I don't know about these new tires, though. They seem to 
spit sand everywhere. I test rode it up and down the street and there was all 
this racket - rocks/sand spitting all over under the fenders. Weird. I don't 
know anything about these tires, but the shop owner thinks they're terrific, 
and says they have some flat protection. I miss my old tires.




I had that happen with a pair of new Paselas a few years ago.  It went 
away after about 20 miles.



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Re: [RBW] Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Bill Lindsay]

You are handwringing over the wrong gap. You stole my 21 and replaced it with a 
14.  You should be grousing about the 13-15 gap, which is even worse. 

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Re: [RBW] Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Patrick Moore]

Aieee! The dreaded 15-to-17 gap!

Top: 11-26.

Bottom: What God and Nature and Reason require.

  39 25
11 96
12 88
13 81
14 75 50
15 70 45
17 62 40
19 55 36
23 46 29
26 41 26
  39 25
12 88
13 81
14 75
15 70 50
16 66 42
17 62 40
19 55 36
21 50 32
24 44 28

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Patrick Moore asked about the cogs in a 9sp 11-26 cassette.
> 11-12-13-15-17-19-21-23-26
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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Ray Varella]

The tires might not pick up as much detritus once they get a little scuffed. 
Hopefully. 

Your encounter with the fellow at the bike shop made for an interesting 
juxtaposition. Even when I rode 300 miles a week, I never thought it was 
expensive 
I must have been doing it wrong. 

Cycling is a big tent and there are no wrong ways to enjoy it. 
Attempting to instill our personal dogma on others...that gets a little 
crunchy. 

Good for you for knowing what works for you. 

Ray
Vallejo CA

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Re: [RBW] Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Bill Lindsay]

Patrick Moore asked about the cogs in a 9sp 11-26 cassette. 
11-12-13-15-17-19-21-23-26

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Re: [RBW] Cheviot touring?

[Ray Varella]

Bob,
  I think Riv is pretty conservative in how they rate their bikes. 
I don't have a Cheviut but I recently got one of their Roscoe Mixte frames. 
>From my initial experiences with it, I would not hesitate to load it up for a 
>tour. 
I'm certain it could handle full size panniers plus a saddle bag on the rear 
and some sort of front load as well. 
How much stuff would you take?
It might not be the best bike to go unsupported across the Sahara but I don't 
want to do that on any bike. 

I'm sure people have done far more with much less than your bike can handle. 


Ray
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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Mixte Pics

[Ray Varella]

Ryan,
   There is also a film about the author of that book. 
He ended up marrying the woman who made the film and he is no longer living in 
the area. 
The flock has split into two flocks and the fractal flock is living down near 
the S.F airport. 

That species of Macaws have a wingspan of over three feet and their favorite 
bike in my stable is a Rivendell product;)

Yes Christopher, you are correct. It is the fork from the 51cm Appaloosa. 
I had that very discussion with Roman when I picked my frame up. 

I rode it again today for a couple hours, I'm really liking it. 

Thank you,

Ray

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell e-bike (conversion)

[Joe Bernard]

Ash: Search Luna Cycles if you want to see some currently available mid-drive 
kits that would fit your Appaloosa. Much reading to be found there about all 
this electricky stuff. 

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[RBW] WTB Paul Thumbies

[Andrew Huston]

Of course I sold a set and now need a set. Need them for Shimano shifters. 
Thanks in advance. 

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Re: [RBW] Nice day for a ride

[M D Smith]

Patrick-

They are albastache bars.  I've had the original mustache, as well (but alas, 
they were temporarily moved to another bike that unfortunately got stolen.  Now 
that I'm thinking about it I believe Grant originally designed it for use with 
mustaches.)  I like both iterations.  The extra width is nice, but I remember 
liking the angle that the brake levers sit better with the originals.

Either 'stache work for me.  I find the combination of 'staches and Suntour bar 
end shifters to be a perfect shifting setup.

Feel better- Mike

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell e-bike (conversion)

[Scott G.]

I had a Bionx kit installed on an '01 Stumpjumper.
The Bionx has a working regen system, 4 levels of regen,
feels like engine braking in a manual transmission car.
Apply the brake also turns on regen, very Prius like.

On ride of 20 miles with 1500 feet of climbing  uses 10% or less of the 
battery.
The whole ride is 35 miles with 2300 feet, 40% of battery used, the way
back is flatter. This with using some regen level 1 on the flats, and the 
higher
levels on down hills. Bike is rideable in bike mode aka zero assist.

model is P350rx 

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Re: [RBW] Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Eric Daume]

Bill, don't you know you absolutely can't use a bag that size on a bike
that's not low-trail?

Eric
who likes front bags on most every bike, except mountain bikes.

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> My Rosco Road now has the massive Docena handlebar bag from Ocean Air
> Cycles #builtbyswift.  I made my own decaleur solution, based largely on
> the prototype that Rob Perks published on his blog.  The home made decaleur
> uses Ortlieb pannier hardware for rock solid connection and one-hand
> instant removability.
>
>
> 
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> Bill Lindsay
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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Garth]

Get the tires you want Leah ! While the shop owner may think what he put on is 
swell, but since you're the one that actually rides your bike(along with furry 
friend), that's about all there is to that. Reminds me of a back seat driver 
   I once had some Dunlop new auto tires that were supposedly wonderful. 
on the way home I going down my usual steep hill I was frightened for my life 
for the first time in my life driving an auto, it felt like the tires were 
going to come off the rims and I'd be on a sleigh ride down the hillside. Right 
back to the shop and returned them and have ridden my preferred Michelin tires 
ever since. You like what you like...
 
The Conti tires you had have changed name to the Ride Tour and come in the size 
you need so have them get some or from some-one. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[franklyn]

What rim/wheel did the bike shop order to replace your rear wheel? I am 
just curious about what's the "garden variety" rim brake 650b rim for LBS 
nowadays.

Franklyn

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:41:01 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> I took back the Bets! I don't know about these new tires, though. They 
> seem to spit sand everywhere. I test rode it up and down the street and 
> there was all this racket - rocks/sand spitting all over under the fenders. 
> Weird. I don't know anything about these tires, but the shop owner thinks 
> they're terrific, and says they have some flat protection. I miss my old 
> tires. 
>
> I attached some pics of the bike and the tires and one of the old wheel so 
> you can see the cracks around the spokes. There were many that were 
> cracked. Also, check out the pic of the invoice and what the mechanic says 
> about my rims. Haha! 
>
> I met a roadie while I was waiting there. He rides no fewer than 300 miles 
> per week, and 12000+ miles per year though he's currently sidelined with a 
> saddle sore. I mentioned the Brooks and he said he can't possibly because 
> it's waaayyy too heavy but acknowledges they're really comfortable. So, 
> saddle sores it is. He gets new tires every other month at $150 a pop, and 
> buys gels and goops by the armfuls  "because it's too hard for me to eat on 
> the bike." He bemoans how expensive cycling is but calls it his therapy. He 
> thinks I need a road bike. I think he needs Just Ride. 
>
> Anyway, everyone at school has been so worried about me "Hey, don't you 
> ride the bike?" so it will be good to sail onto campus on TBBITW next week. 
>
> Thanks for all your help and advice and funny comments. You light up my 
> bike life! 
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Re: [RBW] Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Patrick Moore]

2X9 it is. What cogs come between the 11 and the 25? (The 39 outer and 25
inner say that the builder-upper thought about each tooth in his drivetrain
-- I can relate to that.)

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Nope, it is not a 1 x ? drivetrain.  It's 2x9.
>
> Campagnolo Chorus 135bcd cranks.  Remove the 52, and hang it on the wall
> as art.  Remove the 42, grind all the teeth off, and use as a chainguard.
> Install a tripleizer 39 and a 25.  11-26 9 speed cassette.  Roughly a 95
> inch top end, and a roughly 26 inch low.
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:23:38 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Nice! And nice to see a late-model Rivendell with drop bar!
>>
>> 1 X ?
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> My Rosco Road now has the massive Docena handlebar bag from Ocean Air
>>> Cycles #builtbyswift.  I made my own decaleur solution, based largely on
>>> the prototype that Rob Perks published on his blog.  The home made decaleur
>>> uses Ortlieb pannier hardware for rock solid connection and one-hand
>>> instant removability.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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>>>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[David Banzer]

Nice looking bike. With the bag installed, the cloth tape choices for 
lift-a-tube and handlebar makes a lot more sense!
David
River Grove, IL

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>
> My Rosco Road now has the massive Docena handlebar bag from Ocean Air 
> Cycles #builtbyswift.  I made my own decaleur solution, based largely on 
> the prototype that Rob Perks published on his blog.  The home made decaleur 
> uses Ortlieb pannier hardware for rock solid connection and one-hand 
> instant removability.  
>
>
> 
>
> Bill Lindsay
>
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>
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Re: [RBW] Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Bill Lindsay]

Nope, it is not a 1 x ? drivetrain.  It's 2x9.  

Campagnolo Chorus 135bcd cranks.  Remove the 52, and hang it on the wall as 
art.  Remove the 42, grind all the teeth off, and use as a chainguard. 
 Install a tripleizer 39 and a 25.  11-26 9 speed cassette.  Roughly a 95 
inch top end, and a roughly 26 inch low.  

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:23:38 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Nice! And nice to see a late-model Rivendell with drop bar!
>
> 1 X ?
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>> My Rosco Road now has the massive Docena handlebar bag from Ocean Air 
>> Cycles #builtbyswift.  I made my own decaleur solution, based largely on 
>> the prototype that Rob Perks published on his blog.  The home made decaleur 
>> uses Ortlieb pannier hardware for rock solid connection and one-hand 
>> instant removability.  
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>>
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Re: [RBW] Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Patrick Moore]

Nice! And nice to see a late-model Rivendell with drop bar!

1 X ?

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> My Rosco Road now has the massive Docena handlebar bag from Ocean Air
> Cycles #builtbyswift.  I made my own decaleur solution, based largely on
> the prototype that Rob Perks published on his blog.  The home made decaleur
> uses Ortlieb pannier hardware for rock solid connection and one-hand
> instant removability.
>
>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell e-bike (conversion)

[Patrick Moore]

This may be interesting, but to insert an aside: I wish websites would have
a "merely text" alternative to video. I find videos hugely slow, and you
can't as easily skim to the essential parts.

(Why are they so g-damned slow?)

But I f-fwded through it and got the idea, and I (personally, approaching
62) rather like the general idea.

Patrick Moore, who cancelled Netflix b/c it's not worth paying to f-fwd
through movies, in ABQ, NM, who wonders if you can lace a Copenhagen Wheel
into the 20" rear wheel of a Dahon Hon Solo.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Ashwath Akirekadu 
wrote:

> I'm waiting for this technology to prove out.   http://www.bimoz.ch/en
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Marc40a <40ah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Boo
>>
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell e-bike (conversion)

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

Joe,

I'm 100% in the same camp.  A few months ago I was religiously opposed to
the idea of e-bikes.  (a) I didn't like the way any of them looked (b) Less
workout (c) more complicate, more things to maintain/worry about (d)  many
of them felt like flaky prototypes still

After I changed my job and the commute got significantly longer, I do
realize the value of some peddle assist.  E-bike will probably save 15
minutes each way for me.  I think my bike commute would involve some 30 or
so stops.  A good chunk of my commute time goes into accelerating from stop
to 12mph.  This is where peddle assist could make a huge difference.  It
will improve my cruising speed too.

With a kid at home and a busy work/life, lot of times it becomes a choice
between some exercise and no exercise (not just with biking).  If the
battery can help me reach home before my son goes to bed, I will happily
accept reduced peddling every time!

There's a good chance that my Joe will feature Bimoz (or something
similarly simple) one day.

Cheers,
-Ash



On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Ash: That's a neat lower-power mid-drive system, which is really the way
> to go for cyclists who still want to pedal like a cyclist. I'm quickly
> learning on my new mid-drive Haibike that you still get a good workout with
> these, it just goes by faster. I have a torque sensing system (I won't bore
> RBW with how all this works, I'll let y'all search the terms) that produces
> kind of a "matching" amount of power based on how hard you pedal. I just
> came back from a fast, cold ride, and I'm sweating!
>
> The great undersold aspect of ebikes is the time factor: I love to ride,
> but my time is very limited; this "faster pedaling" technology lets me get
> more miles and sights in, in a short-ish time window. There's a lot of
> riders out there with job and family responsibilities who would appreciate
> this benefit. But that's only if it's your thing. For the rest..boo hiss!
> ;-)
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[John Hawrylak]

Bill

Can you provide a link to the pannier hardware or a photo of the connection 
between your rod and the bag via the pannier hardware.

I understand the Nitto accessory to rod connection, but I picture the 26mm 
section as slighty offset from center,.  You described it as a "26.0mm end"

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Re: [RBW] Nice day for a ride

[Patrick Moore]

Nice, and lucky you. I've been fighting another (*another!*) cold and have
been off the bike despite today's rather nice weather (50*F, breezy but not
horribly so, as yesterday) and sunny.

Is the bar an Albastache or an original Moustache?

Tomorrow, God willing.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:26 PM, Mike  wrote:

>
>
> Life has conspired such that I find myself temporarily relocated from NYC
> to Cape Cod, MA.  I really, really miss riding around the city, but it is
> nice to be reunited with my Allrounder.  I took advantage of the
> unseasonably (disconcertingly so, actually) warm February weather to go on
> a ride this afternoon.  Here are a few photos:
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[Bob Lovejoy]

Completely understood and agreed...!

I read travel journals and look at pictures on CGOAB and know from those, 
even in this modern day, people are having incredible adventures on just 
about anything, and I do not say that in any way judgmental regarding their 
bikes.  I stand in awe!  And as I sit reading, they are out doing... a 
lesson not to be taken lightly or ignored.

I was looking again through some older "magazines" that I have, through 
they are not magazines... They are the "Fellowship News" put out from an 
offshoot of the CTC in the UK - the FCOT, the "Fellowship of Cycling Old 
Timers".  There are stories from people who have biked and toured most of 
their lives, throwing together minimal gear, maybe some bread and wine, and 
heading out for a journey, be that close or a few countries away.  And 
those journeys were not necessarily on fancy bikes, not in the least.  The 
Raleigh or whatever would do just fine.  It was, indeed, the journey, the 
adventure and the living that mattered.

I have at least a couple of true touring bikes, not that they have been on 
worthy journeys lately, but I had to laugh and think of the FCOT "old 
timers" when I was riding the Cheviot that day.  I may not be as 
accomplished or as bold, but at least I am wise enough to aspire and 
hopefully, one day, do...

Bob


On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 4:33:44 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>
>
> Nah, it's not about the bike Bob !  People have toured on all sorts of 
> bikes, many not labeled as "touring" at all.  All those classifications of 
> bikes and frames are meant to assist buyers in their choice, but they are 
> not limits by any means.  
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[Austin ^]

imo the biggest limiting factor to the cheviot's tour worthiness is its 
solitary bottle cage. I like having three water bottles full when I'm 
spending all day on my bike, sometimes a camelbak in addition to that 
depending on refill opportunities. That said I certainly took my cheviot on 
some 80ish mile days and overnights, fully loaded, and it never gave me any 
complaints. If I were setting it up for a tour I would personally lean 
towards drop bars but that's just my preference. 

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[RBW] Re: Grant's Other Book

[lum gim fong]

Ha! Psychology!

 When I was a psych major, one of my professors made a public statement to 
us that they cannot cure anything - only phobias . All other psychiatric 
illnesses they have no cure for at this time.. All they have is best 
guesses based on the research they do. That is what was told to us. So 
don't put too much truck into any theories (and remember that theories are 
not fact, just a working idea based on their best guesses, that can be 
debunked at any time).

The discipline is very young. Will be interesting to see what they can do 
in 100 years from now.


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[RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[Garth]

Nah, it's not about the bike Bob !  People have toured on all sorts of 
bikes, many not labeled as "touring" at all.  All those classifications of 
bikes and frames are meant to assist buyers in their choice, but they are 
not limits by any means.  

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[drew]

thats an interesting pic. i wonder what weight limit constitutes "road 
tour" (or mtn tour for that matter). with the lower rider weight limit and 
higher load capacity of the cheviot to the hillborne, i assume it kind of 
evens out. 

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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Mixte Pics

[Christopher Murray]

Is that the Appaloosa fork? The Roscos were built around existing/ extra forks 
and the Appaloosa is the only bike that has that fork. So I'm assuming that is 
its origin? 

Beautiful bike. 

Cheers!
Chris

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: Glorius and Wilbury

[Gary]

Hey Pudge, I pm'd you a couple of times but they must not have gone thru. Would 
love to talk more about the Wilbury. You can email me at glandwirth (at) mac 
(dot) com or call at 828-279- 5758. 

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell e-bike (conversion)

[Joe Bernard]

Ash: That's a neat lower-power mid-drive system, which is really the way to go 
for cyclists who still want to pedal like a cyclist. I'm quickly learning on my 
new mid-drive Haibike that you still get a good workout with these, it just 
goes by faster. I have a torque sensing system (I won't bore RBW with how all 
this works, I'll let y'all search the terms) that produces kind of a "matching" 
amount of power based on how hard you pedal. I just came back from a fast, cold 
ride, and I'm sweating!

The great undersold aspect of ebikes is the time factor: I love to ride, but my 
time is very limited; this "faster pedaling" technology lets me get more miles 
and sights in, in a short-ish time window. There's a lot of riders out there 
with job and family responsibilities who would appreciate this benefit. But 
that's only if it's your thing. For the rest..boo hiss! ;-)

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: Glorius and Wilbury

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No problem. Not much interest in my bike -- I was a little surprised.

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> On Feb 21, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Abcyclehank  wrote:
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> Why oh why was there never a 65cm+ one.  Next best thing Grant, Will and 
> company conjured up and Jumbo Rosco Mountain Mixte and I am a happy happy man.
>
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[Bob Lovejoy]

My comment on load capacity came from this, something I had bookmarked 
awhile ago...

http://imgur.com/UPvCmy0

I will say they use "tour" in the description!  That said, the suggested 
rider weight limit is lower than some of the other bikes.  It could be that 
a front and/or rear load would not be quite as much of a concern, not being 
quite as supported by the main triangle (or lack of) and all.

Still, a light load would certainly make the ride more fun - and I admit it 
would be with the idea of fun - and adventure - but fun nevertheless...

Bob


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>
> i thought the cheviot could handle as much as a sam. im pretty sure i read 
> that somewhere. i second doug's advice. it has to be better suited to most 
> normal styles of touring than most bikes i've seen people touring on. if 
> anything, id invest in a light sleeping bag and tent, add a VO mojave cage 
> and the king bottle boss clamps and use the bike you love. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[drew]

i thought the cheviot could handle as much as a sam. im pretty sure i read 
that somewhere. i second doug's advice. it has to be better suited to most 
normal styles of touring than most bikes i've seen people touring on. if 
anything, id invest in a light sleeping bag and tent, add a VO mojave cage 
and the king bottle boss clamps and use the bike you love. 

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[RBW] Cheviot touring?

[Howard Hatten]

I see no reason why you couldn't use the chev for a tour. 

Cheviot catalog:

https://doc-0k-3k-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/8894e7hq9keacafg51k33n5rprqooh9p/148795920/04980793364976151971/*/0Bzo7-V-zcAdRdmk4cVFnV29udDQ?e=download

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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Mixte Pics

[Ryan Fleming]

I did not know that and I was just thinking of that book which I read 
several years ago.  Those macaws have quite a wingspan, don't they?  Very 
striking

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 1:49:50 PM UTC-6, Ray Varella wrote:
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> No Ryan, the parrots of telegraph hill are conures. 
> These are my own birds that I fly, they are Macaws. 
>
> Cheers, and thank you. 
> Ray
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell e-bike (conversion)

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

I'm waiting for this technology to prove out.   http://www.bimoz.ch/en


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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Bob Lovejoy]

Thanks Bill.  That's a great solution, the hardest part of the plan being 
that transition from the 23.8mm business end down to the 10mm required 
section.  To have it sectioned down to where it cannot slide is good work. 
 "Mad skills" as a co-worker used to say.

I am in the planning stages of reducing the number of bikes in the house, 
quality and true use over quantity, but once I can focus on the bikes that 
make the cut I am going to work on the decaleur solution myself, pretty 
much following Rob's ideas as well as yours.  I already have a Docena bag, 
the trick being finding the right long term bike/rack/sizing combination.

Thanks for the explanation!  Looking forward to whatever you publish about 
it...  

Oh, and I totally get the lift-a-tube...  When I lived in Denver, I used 
bikes and light rail and was forever mumbling when I had to lift my bike 
into the high cars with the tall, short steps.  Anything that can help with 
that, as well as climbing and carrying to basements, apartments, etc.  is a 
good thing here.

Bob
 

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 12:57:46 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Bob Lovejoy asked about my homemade decaleur.  It's something that I'm 
> pretty proud of, so I'll try to describe it a little more.  Yes, like Rob 
> Perks I started with a Nitto Accessory mount.  Here is one variant of that 
> product.  Link to Bens Cycle 
>  
>
> I used one clamp.  It has a 26.0mm end that clamps to the middle sleeve of 
> my Nitto Noodle.  The other end wants to clamp something 23.8mm in diameter 
> (a.k.a. 15/16").  I got some 15/16" aluminum bar stock and lathed it down 
> to 12mm and then a short section of 10mm on the ends.  Ortlieb pannier 
> hardware clips onto those 10mm ends.  The 12mm part stops the Ortlieb clips 
> from sliding.  I used the four-jaw chuck to lathe the part off center, 
> providing both clearance and adjustability.  Here's a shot at the business 
> end of the home made decaleur.  It's a little hard to see what's going on. 
>  I maybe should do a short youtube of the separate bits and how they go 
> together.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Mixte Pics

[Ray Varella]

No Ryan, the parrots of telegraph hill are conures. 
These are my own birds that I fly, they are Macaws. 

Cheers, and thank you. 
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[RBW] FS: new white industries cranks

[Daniel Jackson]

Curious about crank arm sizing. 

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[RBW] Re: Hitting refresh on instagram for rivbike, oceanaircycles, and swiftindustries

[dougP]

Bill:

Be careful with that basement area.  Like all basements, things can 
disappear down there & hide.  An amusing "show'n'tell" is Rob Perks 
unpacking his Docena.  All manner of things come out of various pockets, 
compartments, cubby holes, etc.  A bit like Steve Jobs famous "oh, and one 
more thing".  

dougP

On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:22:26 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> the big highlight is that my smallish laptop fits in the basement area of 
> the Docena.  I knew it was going to be close, and it fits!
>
> B
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 12:13:55 PM UTC-8, S. Greco wrote:
>>
>> Those are some exciting items to be waiting on. The Docena was a total 
>> game changer for me. I wish I had gotten a harlequin one, they are the 
>> coolest.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot touring?

[dougP]

Bob:

Unfortunately, I can't point you to tour reports specifically for the 
Cheviot, Clem, etc.  However, I strongly encourage you to just pack it up & 
go.  One of the over-looked advantages of bike touring is that you don't 
need a purpose built touring bike to do it.  Unlike other more niche 
aspects of cycling (racing & MTBing come to mind), touring is really just 
rigging up whatever bike you've got to carry some stuff.  While touring, 
I've met people having a wonderful time on everything from racing bikes 
doing a credit card tour with those seatpost racks & only changes of 
clothing, students on Craigslist MTBs, 70s era racing bikes, etc., etc.  
You run what you brung & attitude takes care of the rest.  If anything a 
Cheviot is better suited to the task than many of the above.  Talk to 
Rivendell about load capacity to get the right answers but my guess is that 
the Cheviot will carry more weight than you'll really need.  

dougP



On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 10:17:00 AM UTC-8, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> I was daydreaming the other day, an amazingly glorious day for the midwest 
> in February, riding my Cheviot.  I could not help but smile as riding along 
> was the most fun and peaceful thing I had done in awhile.  The idea that 
> the world would be a much better and happier place if people rode their 
> bikes more and drove their cars less seemed pretty obvious.
>
> Anyway, part of my daydream, sounding outlandish now but not so much then, 
> was wondering what it would be like to go on a real tour on the Cheviot.  I 
> searched CGOAB but no journals or reports found.  I also cannot remember 
> anyone here telling many stories of Cheviot touring or longer distance 
> travels though I certainly could have missed things.
>
> So, just because... Can anyone point me to stories, journals, pictures, 
> etc. of people touring on a Cheviot or similar bike?  Clem L's 
> (Clementines) would certainly be in there, and other mixte type of frames. 
>  It would be interesting to hear of such things, noting either the big 
> smiles or the wide, possibly concerned, eyes of the riders...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
> P.S.  I do realize the Cheviot (specifically) does not have the same load 
> carrying capacity as, say, a Hillborne, Appaloosa, or certainly a 
> Hunqapillar.  Still, reality must be put aside at times, if just for 
> awhile.  Can be a long while though... 
>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Bill Lindsay]

Chris asked about the saddle.  It's an old Avocet R40.  It's ~20 years old. 
 

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 10:32:46 AM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
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> Nice!  Just curious Bill, but what saddle do you have on that?

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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Mixte Pics

[Ryan Fleming]

Parrots of Telegraph hill? Nice shot!

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 12:41:05 PM UTC-6, Ray Varella wrote:
>
> Yes Mark, the red Pterodactyls are quite an issue around here ;)
> The bike rides great and the liftatube is quite useful. 
>
> Yes Shoji, I agree about the fork. It's one of the nicest crowns I've seen 
> in a long time and it fits pretty fat tires. 
>
> I don't mind Marty, thank you. 
> When I loaded the pics they were properly oriented. 
> Must be an apple/google interface issue. 
> You are going to be very pleased with your Mixte. 
>
> Ray
>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Bill Lindsay]

Bob Lovejoy asked about my homemade decaleur.  It's something that I'm 
pretty proud of, so I'll try to describe it a little more.  Yes, like Rob 
Perks I started with a Nitto Accessory mount.  Here is one variant of that 
product.  Link to Bens Cycle 
 

I used one clamp.  It has a 26.0mm end that clamps to the middle sleeve of 
my Nitto Noodle.  The other end wants to clamp something 23.8mm in diameter 
(a.k.a. 15/16").  I got some 15/16" aluminum bar stock and lathed it down 
to 12mm and then a short section of 10mm on the ends.  Ortlieb pannier 
hardware clips onto those 10mm ends.  The 12mm part stops the Ortlieb clips 
from sliding.  I used the four-jaw chuck to lathe the part off center, 
providing both clearance and adjustability.  Here's a shot at the business 
end of the home made decaleur.  It's a little hard to see what's going on. 
 I maybe should do a short youtube of the separate bits and how they go 
together.






On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 10:31:06 AM UTC-8, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Looks perfect Bill.  Well done, and the fact that your PC fits (as I think 
> I read) is great!
>
> Curious, did you use the Nitto Lampholder idea from Rob's original notes, 
> or did you you do something else?  
>
> Thanks and congrats on the excellent build and concept.
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Mixte Pics

[Ray Varella]

Yes Mark, the red Pterodactyls are quite an issue around here ;)
The bike rides great and the liftatube is quite useful. 

Yes Shoji, I agree about the fork. It's one of the nicest crowns I've seen in a 
long time and it fits pretty fat tires. 



I don't mind Marty, thank you. 
When I loaded the pics they were properly oriented. 
Must be an apple/google interface issue. 
You are going to be very pleased with your Mixte. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Belopsky]

I like it but then I see the lift-a-tube and then I no longer like it but I 
know it's useful so I'm sure it's great.

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[RBW] Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Nice!  Just curious Bill, but what saddle do you have on that?

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Bob Lovejoy]

Looks perfect Bill.  Well done, and the fact that your PC fits (as I think 
I read) is great!

Curious, did you use the Nitto Lampholder idea from Rob's original notes, 
or did you you do something else?  

Thanks and congrats on the excellent build and concept.

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL

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[RBW] Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Bill Lindsay]

My Rosco Road now has the massive Docena handlebar bag from Ocean Air 
Cycles #builtbyswift.  I made my own decaleur solution, based largely on 
the prototype that Rob Perks published on his blog.  The home made decaleur 
uses Ortlieb pannier hardware for rock solid connection and one-hand 
instant removability.  



Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Cheviot touring?

[Bob Lovejoy]

I was daydreaming the other day, an amazingly glorious day for the midwest 
in February, riding my Cheviot.  I could not help but smile as riding along 
was the most fun and peaceful thing I had done in awhile.  The idea that 
the world would be a much better and happier place if people rode their 
bikes more and drove their cars less seemed pretty obvious.

Anyway, part of my daydream, sounding outlandish now but not so much then, 
was wondering what it would be like to go on a real tour on the Cheviot.  I 
searched CGOAB but no journals or reports found.  I also cannot remember 
anyone here telling many stories of Cheviot touring or longer distance 
travels though I certainly could have missed things.

So, just because... Can anyone point me to stories, journals, pictures, 
etc. of people touring on a Cheviot or similar bike?  Clem L's 
(Clementines) would certainly be in there, and other mixte type of frames. 
 It would be interesting to hear of such things, noting either the big 
smiles or the wide, possibly concerned, eyes of the riders...

Thanks!

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL

P.S.  I do realize the Cheviot (specifically) does not have the same load 
carrying capacity as, say, a Hillborne, Appaloosa, or certainly a 
Hunqapillar.  Still, reality must be put aside at times, if just for 
awhile.  Can be a long while though... 

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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Mixte Pics

[MartyG]

Hope you don't mind the rotation. I have one of these on the way (albeit 
huge and silver) and this will keep me inspired while I wait. 



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> I remembered to take my phone and get some Roscoe pics...and a gratuitous 
> Allrounder shot. 
>
> Ray
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Other Book

[Grant Petersen]

Ben Davis "Can't Bust 'em" sticker. Yes, a Ritchey (good eye)--lugged and
crowned from '77.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:44 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Double bandana! Bike with sticker! Regular clothes! Beginnings of S24O! A
> watch! I have little doubt there is an ax somewhere off-camera. Is that a
> Ritchey logo on the head tube of that bike? (Love the color.)
>
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 5:37:51 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>>
>> Here you go!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: new white industries cranks

[Ryan Fleming]

OK...that's good to know...thanks for explaining

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 9:56:35 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
> I'm not selling any chain rings with my cranks, just the crank arms. White 
> Industries uses a very useful and unique design that effectively means it 
> has no BCD. The large chain ring mounts to the crank arm just like a 
> 'spiderless' system would. Then the small ring bolts to the large ring. 
> They call it their 'variable bolt circle', or VBC.
>
> In other words, you MUST use a white industries large ring, but you can 
> use any five bolt small ring you want. I'm using a white industries 44t big 
> ring, and a Sugino 26t small ring from Riv. Look close at some of their 
> cranks and you can see that there is no spider, and the small ring is 
> bolted directly to the big ring. 
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Ryan Fleming  > wrote:
>
>> Idle curiosity only...are the chainring sizes same as on your Atlantis or 
>> something else? WI website doesn't say what's available or what the BCD is. 
>> Current price is USD 235. Doesn't seem excessive even new. WI seems to make 
>> awfully nice kit...I love those ENO SS freewheels and I'm looking forward 
>> to seeing what those hubs are like. I'm partial to nice hubs
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 4:51:00 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone, 
>>>
>>> I have a pair of brand new, never used White Industries crank arms for 
>>> sale. They are the 'road' version, in silver, square taper and 172.5mm 
>>> long. I've had them sitting in my parts box for over a year for a project I 
>>> now realize will never happen. Included will be the lock ring for the chain 
>>> ring. These are awesome cranks, I have them on three other bikes!
>>>
>>> I believe these are around $215 USD new. So how about 30 bucks off, $185 
>>> USD plus shipping? 
>>>
>>> These have never been mounted to a bottom bracket and are in brand new 
>>> condition. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm running the same cranks on my Atlantis with a 44/26 chain ring 
>>> combo, on a Phil 119mm BB. It's a great combo and works flawlessly. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: new white industries cranks

[Mark Reimer]

Hi Ryan,

I'm not selling any chain rings with my cranks, just the crank arms. White
Industries uses a very useful and unique design that effectively means it
has no BCD. The large chain ring mounts to the crank arm just like a
'spiderless' system would. Then the small ring bolts to the large ring.
They call it their 'variable bolt circle', or VBC.

In other words, you MUST use a white industries large ring, but you can use
any five bolt small ring you want. I'm using a white industries 44t big
ring, and a Sugino 26t small ring from Riv. Look close at some of their
cranks and you can see that there is no spider, and the small ring is
bolted directly to the big ring.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Ryan Fleming 
wrote:

> Idle curiosity only...are the chainring sizes same as on your Atlantis or
> something else? WI website doesn't say what's available or what the BCD is.
> Current price is USD 235. Doesn't seem excessive even new. WI seems to make
> awfully nice kit...I love those ENO SS freewheels and I'm looking forward
> to seeing what those hubs are like. I'm partial to nice hubs
>
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 4:51:00 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I have a pair of brand new, never used White Industries crank arms for
>> sale. They are the 'road' version, in silver, square taper and 172.5mm
>> long. I've had them sitting in my parts box for over a year for a project I
>> now realize will never happen. Included will be the lock ring for the chain
>> ring. These are awesome cranks, I have them on three other bikes!
>>
>> I believe these are around $215 USD new. So how about 30 bucks off, $185
>> USD plus shipping?
>>
>> These have never been mounted to a bottom bracket and are in brand new
>> condition.
>>
>>
>> I'm running the same cranks on my Atlantis with a 44/26 chain ring combo,
>> on a Phil 119mm BB. It's a great combo and works flawlessly.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: new white industries cranks

[Ryan Fleming]

Idle curiosity only...are the chainring sizes same as on your Atlantis or 
something else? WI website doesn't say what's available or what the BCD is. 
Current price is USD 235. Doesn't seem excessive even new. WI seems to make 
awfully nice kit...I love those ENO SS freewheels and I'm looking forward 
to seeing what those hubs are like. I'm partial to nice hubs

On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 4:51:00 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, 
>
> I have a pair of brand new, never used White Industries crank arms for 
> sale. They are the 'road' version, in silver, square taper and 172.5mm 
> long. I've had them sitting in my parts box for over a year for a project I 
> now realize will never happen. Included will be the lock ring for the chain 
> ring. These are awesome cranks, I have them on three other bikes!
>
> I believe these are around $215 USD new. So how about 30 bucks off, $185 
> USD plus shipping? 
>
> These have never been mounted to a bottom bracket and are in brand new 
> condition. 
>
>
> I'm running the same cranks on my Atlantis with a 44/26 chain ring combo, 
> on a Phil 119mm BB. It's a great combo and works flawlessly. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Currently split between the WTB Horizon (~48mm) because I have a pair 
laying around and Thunder Burtsbecause they are my latest tire 
obsession.

On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 3:02:54 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
>
> I asked them about paved and dirt trails, but didn't specifically mention 
> gnarly rutted/rocky trails. But I believe that with this in mind, they 
> recommended the standard sidewall instead of the ultralight. 
>
> Michael makes a good point about the diminishing returns, which I believe 
> would also apply, for the HHH, on the sidewall thickness. Still, at this 
> time I'm not planning any gnarly rides, so we'll see what happens as I ride 
> them. 
>
> René 
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:34 AM Michael Hechmer  > wrote:
>
>> All improvements are governed by the law of diminishing returns.  Going 
>> from 28 mm tires to 38 mm tires yields a big improvement on comfort; from 
>> 38 to 48mm offers offers less but still noticeable improvement in comfort 
>> without any noticeable loss in rolling.  Going from 48 to 58 will yield 
>> little improvement in comfort while complicating other things, like frame 
>> design, brake choice & fender selection.  My tandem rode very comfortably 
>> on 1.5 tires for 5 years.  Last year I went with 1.8 (which also required 
>> new brakes) and liked the improvement, but it was not huge, even with 
>> 450lbs of weight on them.  I have ridden a single on the C very 
>> comfortably on 38 mm tires.
>>
>> Michael 
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 7:53:38 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>>> I ran Compass 700c x 35mm regular casing on my Burly tandem for a 2-3 
>>> day 135 mile C canal and rail trail ride to July's ago.  Combined team 
>>> and cargo weight was a pretty robust ~450lbs.  I had three flats the first 
>>> day, all rear, exhausting my spare tubes.  After adjusting weight to front 
>>> panniers and being more mindful of my steering technique day 2 was much 
>>> better - it also was over half on pavement.
>>>
>>> Anyway, we haven't done significant mileage since due to pregnancy and 
>>> having a small child but when we do return to the tandem it'll be with a 
>>> heavier tire.
>>>
>>> I love compass tires and maybe the 48's, especially tubeless, would be 
>>> enough cushion to overcome the flat problems I had.  I did have some 
>>> correspondence with cold after the fact and they recommended upping the 
>>> tire pressure to about for the extra weight which also seems smart.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Mixte Pics

[Shoji Takahashi]

wonderful. That's a great looking bike; JA fork curve is perfect.

shoji
Arlington MA

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> I remembered to take my phone and get some Roscoe pics...and a gratuitous 
> Allrounder shot. 
>
> Ray
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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Mixte Pics

[Jeffrey B]

Mark, that's the funniest post I've read in a while. Thanks for brightening my 
day!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Other Book

[William R.]

Classic! Cool timeless "dire straits" look Grant. Downloaded for future use. 
Thanks Dan.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Other Book

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Double bandana! Bike with sticker! Regular clothes! Beginnings of S24O! A 
watch! I have little doubt there is an ax somewhere off-camera. Is that a 
Ritchey logo on the head tube of that bike? (Love the color.)

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> Here you go! 
>
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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Mixte Pics

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wow. I really thought the Clem L was the pinnacle (technically the nadir), 
and it still is in terms of ease of step thru, but the Roscoe Mixte is some 
kind of awesome. (I see you have the same problem with giant red attacking 
parrots where you are. Is nowhere safe?)

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> Allrounder shot. 
>
> Ray
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr H 59CM - $1250 or trade for Appaloosa 58cm frameset

[Eric Daume]

Hi Mike,

Could you send me some pictures if you still have this Clem available for
sale?

I tried a PM, but maybe it didn't make it through.

Thanks,

Eric
ericda...@gmail.com

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 5:06 PM, mike smith 
wrote:

> Bump.  $1000 plus shipping.  I put the Bosco Bars back on the bike and
> will keep the Alba Bars & Brooks Saddle.
>
>
>
> On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 10:44:28 AM UTC-5, mike smith wrote:
>>
>> Includes:
>>
>>- original bosco bars and shifters
>>- alba bars and indexed shifters pictured.
>>- SKS fenders
>>-  I'f prefer to keep the brooks saddle but can include for an
>>additional $50.  I still have the stick saddle which will go with the 
>> bike.
>>
>> Buyer pays shipping from 34695 zip code.
>>
>> There is a very small scratch on the top tube from putting it on a bike
>> rack. I can send pics of that directly or any other pics.
>>
>> $1250 or trade for a 58 cm Appaloosa.
>>
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