[RBW] Re: D2R2 2017

[Wally Estrella]

Congratulations!  Nice job on finishing!  So many nice pics up on Instagram 
to drool over.  It's on my calendar for next year.

On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 3:05:45 PM UTC-4, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>
> Had such a great time at the D2R2 although I was bummed I didn't get a 
> chance to meet up with too many people. I met up with John who I can't 
> remember his user name on the group but he had a really nice Sam with 650b 
> wheels. I did see one blue Appaloosa on the ride at the lunch stop but 
> never did see the owner. First time I saw one in the wild and it was a 
> really great looking bike. I had so many complements on my Sam during the 
> ride. I was a little surprised as to how much attention it got. I mostly 
> suffered alone and at times I was ready to be done but I am proud to say 
> that I rode everything without walking some of steeper climbs.  Let's just 
> say I was thankful to have a triple! All in all it was a great event. Next 
> time I am going to make it a point to find more fellow Riv owners. 
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 10:50:59 PM UTC-4, Peter H wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Anyone heading to the D2R2 this year?
>>
>> Sounds/looks like a great ride and a fun mellow weekend. 
>>
>> I'm thinking of heading up and trying to decide on bringing the whole 
>> family, anyone on the list bring kids before?
>>
>> -Peter
>>
>>

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[RBW] Large Grey-Grey ShopSack

[MountNormal]

Found a sack on Instagram! This thread can be deleted. Do I do that? Or a 
moderator? 

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[RBW] Marks Rack Platform

[J Imler]

Beware of clearance issues. I need to rethink this.

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[RBW] Appaloosa Beach Build

[Carla Waugh]

Beautiful bike and many happy beach miles!

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[RBW] Appaloosa Beach Build

[Bill Lindsay]

Approve!  That's an interesting cable management strategy and a very well 
executed harlequin wrap. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, Ca 

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[RBW] Appaloosa Beach Build

[Joe Bernard]

That's so nice, Ann! I love the color and Motolites, and the slammed saddle 
with tall Boscos gives it a cool chopper effect. I dig it!

Joe Bernard
Vallejo CA. 

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[RBW] Re: D2R2 2017

[alford]

Broccoli Cog - so good to hear you had a great time. Would have liked to have 
met up with more Riv owners as well. Never enough time. Thinking about camping 
next year, if only to get some more time to catch up with folks. I did the 
'short' Mystery ride. It was a blast, but some of the hills, especially after 
lunch were tough. 

Saw a lot of beautiful bikes but not many Rivs. Hope you were happy with your 
Sam. Nice build. 

John

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[RBW] Velo-Orange just saved my wheel!

[Marc Irwin]

I've been using their Anti-Theft skewers for years and just found out they 
really work! 


Marc


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Re: [RBW] Re: D2R2 2017

[Peter Jackson Hussey]

Sounds like you all had a great ride!

I had a great time too, nice folks, lots of beautiful views, so many
swimming holes! The route on Green River Rd is definitely something
I'll be planning to go back and do this fall.

Marc in Beacon-Thanks for sharing the pictures, must have just missed
you! that was my green Sam on the hill by the lunch spot.

Peter

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 2:04 PM, alford  wrote:
> Broccoli Cog - so good to hear you had a great time. Would have liked to have 
> met up with more Riv owners as well. Never enough time. Thinking about 
> camping next year, if only to get some more time to catch up with folks. I 
> did the 'short' Mystery ride. It was a blast, but some of the hills, 
> especially after lunch were tough.
>
> Saw a lot of beautiful bikes but not many Rivs. Hope you were happy with your 
> Sam. Nice build.
>
> John
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[RBW] Velo-Orange just saved my wheel!

[Jay Connolly]

I've often wondered about getting a set of those. Now I will.

Jay

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[RBW] Show me your touring/camping setup!

[John G.]

It looks like I'll be taking my Atlantis on a quick 2-night tour in the 
next few days. I'll be camping instead of staying in hotels. I haven't bike 
camped before, so I need ideas on how to load up the bike. If you have pics 
of your Rivendell loaded up for a quick tour, post 'em here!

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[RBW] Appaloosa Beach Build

[Michael Morrissey]

That's super similar to mine! What's the story on the front bags?!

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[RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[Deacon Patrick]

So many options, depending on gear. My suggestion is gather together what 
you are taking and pack it and ride it, even for a short ride. You'll learn 
a LOT. Including taking only what you need, and absolutely want, to have to 
enjoy and be warm and dry and fed and hydrated. In short, don't over think 
it. Your next trip you will try new things.

Basic rules of any load apply: loads effect handling (different for every 
person it seems). You may prefer front load, read load, or balanced. 
Heavier/denser items low and toward the center line. I prefer weight low in 
rear panniers, tent/sleeping bag/pad on top of rear rack. I put food in my 
wee trunk sack in front to give balance to handling. Irish straps are your 
friend.

Keep items you may want during the ride on the outside/easily accessible. 
Likely this means rain jacket, map(s), food.

Enjoy! Let us know how it goes!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 1:57:57 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote:
>
> It looks like I'll be taking my Atlantis on a quick 2-night tour in the 
> next few days. I'll be camping instead of staying in hotels. I haven't bike 
> camped before, so I need ideas on how to load up the bike. If you have pics 
> of your Rivendell loaded up for a quick tour, post 'em here!
>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[Deacon Patrick]

Och! Forgot links. These two posts show my Hunqapillar through the years 
with various bikepacking setups.
http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/the-mad-genious-of-rivendells-hunqapillar
and this one, in which my panniers are loaded with 24 pounds (15-20 days) 
of pemmican along with my gear.
http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/great-divide-mountain-bike-trail/

With abandon,
Patrick


On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 1:57:57 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote:
>
> It looks like I'll be taking my Atlantis on a quick 2-night tour in the 
> next few days. I'll be camping instead of staying in hotels. I haven't bike 
> camped before, so I need ideas on how to load up the bike. If you have pics 
> of your Rivendell loaded up for a quick tour, post 'em here!
>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[drew]

Here is mine with a load for a couple of nights. probably more than 
actually needed, but it had food and cooking gear for 2 days. rear has 
sleeping pad, tent and tools. front has a soft cooler and small items in 
the basket. front panniers hold the sleeping bag, clothes, cooking stuff. i 
basically used the same set up for tours that last a week or longer.  i 
havent quite figured out how to pack for a s240 yet. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[Reed Kennedy]

Hey Patrick, what's your pemmican recipe? I've been meaning to try making
some, and would welcome any thoughts or advice you're willing to share!


Best,
Reed

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Och! Forgot links. These two posts show my Hunqapillar through the years
> with various bikepacking setups.
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/the-mad-genious-of-rivendells-hunqapillar
> and this one, in which my panniers are loaded with 24 pounds (15-20 days)
> of pemmican along with my gear.
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/great-divide-mountain-bike-trail/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 1:57:57 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote:
>
>> It looks like I'll be taking my Atlantis on a quick 2-night tour in the
>> next few days. I'll be camping instead of staying in hotels. I haven't bike
>> camped before, so I need ideas on how to load up the bike. If you have pics
>> of your Rivendell loaded up for a quick tour, post 'em here!
>>
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[RBW] FS Clem Jr H

[Jonathan D.]

Sent PM. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[Deacon Patrick]

I rendered my own tallow from suet. Getting 100% grass fed is critical, 
both for nutrition and for it staying solid. Here are my notes:

~~~
Grassfed Beef:
40 pounds heart (dried to crisp, roughly 10 pounds total) (no need for it 
to be heart, but lean cuts. Heart is usually cheap)
20 pounds suet (rendered to 10+ lbs tallow, saved cracklin' for snacks and 
flavoring in other items)

Great source for tallow by the bucket (and beef): Grassfed Beef (they also 
offer pemmican but it is not shelf stable officially. I haven't tested that 
out on a trip) but it is the easiest way to taste pemmican):
https://grasslandbeef.com

40 pounds heart (dried to crisp, roughly 10 pounds total)
20 pounds suet (rendered to 10+ lbs tallow, saved cracklin' for snacks and 
flavoring in other items)

Yielded 21.5 pounds pemmican

1 cup pemmican = ½ pound = aprox 1,500 calories

I figure I need 1 to 1 ½ pounds pemmican per day to run 30+ miles per day. 
(I ended up averaging 60 miles/day on 1.5 pounds)

Used recipe from PDF on how to make pemmican (will email you off group). 
Added salt, sage, rosemary, and maple syrup to taste at the end. Tastes 
like a candy bar beyond all candy bars. Add spices slowly. A wee bit goes a 
long way. Taste as you add, and keep in mind it will intensify.

With abandon,
Patrick



>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB / WTT Tektro R559 with hex nut

[Doug Van Cleve]

Hey Jack.

Not sure if you'd be into this, but if you have a set of normal recessed
nut brakes you can use the rear on the front and the front on the rear. You
put the short bolt brake on the fork and put the nut inside the steerer. In
the back, use an external nut with a washer or one of those curved brake
bridge fittings. Works perfectly well and it's Sheldon Brown approved 😁

Doug

On Aug 20, 2017 6:16 PM, "Jack Barnes"  wrote:

I need the front brake with exposed hex nut, for older bikes.

I have a like-new front R559 with recessed nut that I could trade, but also
happy to just buy one if you aren't into trades.

Shipping to/from 97215.

cheers,
Jack

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Re: [RBW] WTB / WTT Tektro R559 with hex nut

[Jack Barnes]

Hey Doug, that's a clever solution... might give it a try. However I've 
also just learned that Tektro now sells a kit which allows you to swap out 
the bolts. Which makes me wonder if I could just supply my own long bolt 
from the hardware store... hmmm.

-JB


On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 3:06:37 PM UTC-7, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
> Hey Jack.
>
> Not sure if you'd be into this, but if you have a set of normal recessed 
> nut brakes you can use the rear on the front and the front on the rear. You 
> put the short bolt brake on the fork and put the nut inside the steerer. In 
> the back, use an external nut with a washer or one of those curved brake 
> bridge fittings. Works perfectly well and it's Sheldon Brown approved 😁
>
> Doug
>
> On Aug 20, 2017 6:16 PM, "Jack Barnes" > 
> wrote:
>
> I need the front brake with exposed hex nut, for older bikes.
>
> I have a like-new front R559 with recessed nut that I could trade, but 
> also happy to just buy one if you aren't into trades.
>
> Shipping to/from 97215.
>
> cheers,
> Jack
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[Kellie]

google bike packing and select images. 

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 12:57:57 PM UTC-7, John G. wrote:
>
> It looks like I'll be taking my Atlantis on a quick 2-night tour in the 
> next few days. I'll be camping instead of staying in hotels. I haven't bike 
> camped before, so I need ideas on how to load up the bike. If you have pics 
> of your Rivendell loaded up for a quick tour, post 'em here!
>

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Beach Build

[Les Lammers]

Congrats! Listen...can you hear your therapist ask to be taken to New 
Orleans? I think I hear it. :-) While there, go to Drago's 
Seafood Restaurant. You'll be glad you did.
 

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 10:24:31 AM UTC-4, Ann L wrote:

> The back story:  five years ago, RBW built my Soma San Marcos for me.  I 
> absolutely loved the bike and rode it all the time, commuting to work, 
> errands, or just zipping around.  The bike became my gym, personal trainer, 
> and therapist.  Then a couple of months ago, due to work I moved from 
> Washington D.C. to Mississippi.  It was definitely a culture shock, 
> particularly for cycling.  There are no shoulders on the road and the 
> drivers are not used to bicycles or pedestrians.  The few brave souls I saw 
> on bikes were either riding on the sidewalks or beach boardwalk.  The paved 
> (mostly) beach boardwalk was the safest place to ride and I luckily live 
> close by.  But when I took my Soma out, it quickly became clear that it 
> wasn't going to work.  Sand accumulates in drifts on the boardwalk and my 
> poor Soma would fishtail and become stuck.  Also, the dips caused by spaces 
> in the paving had a jack hammer effect that went straight up my spine.  For 
> the first time, it wasn't fun riding anymore.  I needed a bike that could 
> accommodate big, fat, squishy tires that I could run a low psi.  Not being 
> able to ride felt like I was missing part of myself.  So I looked back to 
> RBW, who had given me my beloved Soma, for a bike that could be built up to 
> the baddest beach cruiser ever.
>
> I think I got the very last butternut frame in their inventory.  The color 
> is closer to a non metallic bronze and is stunning against the cream 
> accents.  My major upgrades were on Paul motolite brakes and WI MI5's.  The 
> Big Ben tires plow through the sand like it's nothing.  It is a wonderful 
> plush, buttery ride.  I have a new gym, personal trainer and therapist.  
> Best of all, I figured out to commute to work using the beach boardwalk.  
> There is about a mile and a half that I have to interact with cars.  But 
> the traffic is light and none of the drivers have tried to kill me yet 
> (yay!).  The Soma will be temporarily retired for now.  But I expect to use 
> both bikes in different capacities as long as I can pedal upright.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Clem Jr H

[Bustini]

BTW, I'm located near Santa Barbara, CA

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 1:33:34 PM UTC-7, Bustini wrote:
>
> Hi allI'm selling my year old Clem. SON Dyno (no lights),  Pletscher 
> rack, VO saddle. Great condition! $900.please PM if interested.
>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[John G.]

Stroke of genius, Kellie. It truly never crossed my mind.

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[RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[Deacon Patrick]

I just get the modern nylon, aggressive, hard to use in my experience MTB 
set-ups via search images.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 4:15:23 PM UTC-6, Kellie wrote:
>
> google bike packing and select images. 
>

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[RBW] Re: New Clem L

[Jeremy Till]

That plastic insert is something that they started doing on the higher end 
11spd groups and now it looks like it has trickled down to Claris.  Its 
function is related to the indexing on those higher end road groups.  They 
actually made the downshift onto the small rings two step: one click shifts 
the chain but keeps the cage close to/touching the chain to prevent the 
chain derailing during the shift, and a second click trims the derailleur 
cage away from the chain once it's settled into gear.  The plastic is there 
so to keep things quiet during that process.  It's so quiet that I'm sure 
most guys don't actually realize they need to click twice for the full 
shift.  

On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 2:57:56 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's a thing I've never seen before. I just pulled the Claris fd and 
> discovered this plastic insert to push the chain. You wear out the plastic 
> instead of the cage? Narrows it down for 9-speed, take it off for 8? Hmm..
>
> On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 2:24:23 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> > Update on weight (still no actual scale): Yeah, after moving this bike 
> around a bunch today I'd say I was a little optimistic. It feels like 32-33 
> with rack and fenders..probably around 30 lbs. without (but with a Brooks). 
> If you really wanted to weight-weenie a Clem (silly!) you could use the 
> plastic saddle Riv sells and replace the steel chainrings. You wouldn't, 
> but you could :-)
>
>

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[RBW] Show me your touring/camping setup!

[Ian A]

Don't be affraid to carry too much on a two-nighter. If the bike has good racks 
a bit extra weight doesn't hurt and being well-fed, warm and dry is always nice 
when camping. 

My basic kit:
Tent
Mat
Sleeping bag
MSR stove + petrol
Pot(s)
Change of clothes
Rain gear
Camera
Far too much food
Soap/towel
Water bottles
Spare tire,tubes,patch kit, tools, a couple of spokes. 
Good knife
Spoon

IanA/Canada

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a sub-25lb. complete Rivendell?

[lum gim fong]

Welp...I don't know if putting lighter components on will make any diff at 
all.
But might as well put on lighter stuff as long as I keep my desired 
functional features.

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[RBW] Re: New Clem L

[Joe Bernard]

Wait, you're supposed to shift twice for one chainring??

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[Patrick Moore]

I have to say that, as beautiful as greenery is, the desert scenes --
Georgia O'Keefe's country -- is hard to beat. I recall Edward Abbey's paean
to desert beauty, Desert Solitaire; worth reading.

Question: how long does pemmican last when properly stored but not
refrigerated? And how do you store it properly?

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Och! Forgot links. These two posts show my Hunqapillar through the years
> with various bikepacking setups.
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/the-mad-genious-of-rivendells-hunqapillar
> and this one, in which my panniers are loaded with 24 pounds (15-20 days)
> of pemmican along with my gear.
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/great-divide-mountain-bike-trail/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 1:57:57 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote:
>
>> It looks like I'll be taking my Atlantis on a quick 2-night tour in the
>> next few days. I'll be camping instead of staying in hotels. I haven't bike
>> camped before, so I need ideas on how to load up the bike. If you have pics
>> of your Rivendell loaded up for a quick tour, post 'em here!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[drew]

Ok. Somewhat related question. When I see people's bike packing setups, 
Especially the ones without panniers, where is the food being kept? Or are 
people just eating protein bars and stuff for dinner?
I always bring food to make, since that's one of the most fun parts about 
camping to me. But real food and a way to cook it takes up space fast. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[Deacon Patrick]

@ Patrick. Pemmican stores indefinitely if prepared properly (jerky dry 
enough, tallow rendered properly, proportions and mixed properly), though 
I'm not sure if that's been tested in hot desert country. You likely need 
to keep it solid for shelf stability at warmer temps.

@ Drew: I eat ketogenic and when bikepacking only eat one meal a day. I've 
settled into doing 1-4 nights or so, and thus take raw steak and/or brats 
and cook over my firebox. For the steak, I bring a dry rub. I've found raw 
steak vacuum packed lasts up to ten days in desert heat, so in the 
mountains I don't worry about it at all. Cream for extra fat in my coffee 
only lasts a day or two depending on temps, so that's trickier. I carry 
that all in my wee trunk sack on my front rack.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 6:45:09 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Question: how long does pemmican last when properly stored but not 
> refrigerated? And how do you store it properly?
>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[Deacon Patrick]

Here is a PDF on everything you ever wanted to know about 
pemmican. http://www.traditionaltx.us/images/PEMMICAN.pdf

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 1:57:57 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote:
>
> It looks like I'll be taking my Atlantis on a quick 2-night tour in the 
> next few days. I'll be camping instead of staying in hotels. I haven't bike 
> camped before, so I need ideas on how to load up the bike. If you have pics 
> of your Rivendell loaded up for a quick tour, post 'em here!
>

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[RBW] Re: Gravel & Grind's Semi Annual Rivendell / Bridgestone / Crust owners ride and social

[John G]

I'll probably be there again on my Quickbeam.  Here are a few photos of the 
ride last year.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/14612032@N00/sets/72157672387444346

Cheers
 John G, Union Bridge, MD

On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 12:56:12 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> I went last year for the pre ride chit chat and coffee, definitely worth 
> the trip.  Great people and awesome bikes.  The shop may be the most 
> Riv-tastic place I've ever seen, truly more Riv'd out than even the BB&H 
> shop I also visited.
>
> Not sure I'll make it or not pending some family commitments...
>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[John G]

Here is one (from almost 10 years ago!!) of my Quickbeam and a friend's 
Romulus on a trip to Gettysburg PA from MD.
Sleeping quilt on fron bars.  Pad and tent on rack.  Other stuff in 
Carradice Nelson longflap.

https://flic.kr/p/5aqahc

Here is a slightly different set up for my QB with sleeping pad below 
toptube.
https://flic.kr/p/X5m8o

Now-a-days I have use my Specialized AWOL for touring loads 
https://flic.kr/p/yhpa84  or https://flic.kr/p/ssJ8ft

and my MTB for bikepacking loads.
https://flic.kr/p/fTHAHd

Cheers,
 John G, Union Bridge, MD

On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
>
> It looks like I'll be taking my Atlantis on a quick 2-night tour in the 
> next few days. I'll be camping instead of staying in hotels. I haven't bike 
> camped before, so I need ideas on how to load up the bike. If you have pics 
> of your Rivendell loaded up for a quick tour, post 'em here!
>

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[RBW] Appaloosa Beach Build

[WETH]

A great looking bike and wonderful story.  I can't imagine moving somewhere not 
cycling friendly.  So glad you found such a great solution to the problem!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Clem L

[WETH]

Joe,
Late to this thread, but allow me to echo others in heaping kudos upon your 
beautiful bike.  I wondered when you would go electric with it.
Enjoy!
Erl

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[RBW] Gravel & Grind's Semi Annual Rivendell / Bridgestone / Crust owners ride and social

[WETH]

It's on my calendar.  I'll either bring my Cheviot or Romulus.  I went for 
coffee and conversation last year but had to depart before the ride.  I hope to 
ride this year.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a sub-25lb. complete Rivendell?

[ted]

Yep, long as the dent it will put in your finances doesn't matter, and you keep 
in mind that lighter often equals less durable.
Have at it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your touring/camping setup!

[WETH]

Patrick,
Desert Solitaire! One of my favorite books! I reread the first 5 chapters about 
once a year. 
“A man on foot, on horseback or on a bicycle will see more, feel more, enjoy 
more in one mile than the motorized tourists can in a hundred miles.”
-Erl 

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[RBW] Re: Shellac blowout

[wesley]

Speaking of shellac flakes, can you use a dried out can and rehydrate that 
with alcohol? Seems like with enough time it would work.

On Sunday, August 20, 2017 at 9:55:13 PM UTC-5, Jack Barnes wrote:
>
> I ignored the "bulge" of a shellac can this morning, man was that a 
> mistake – As I started to wedge off the lid, I heard a big "pop" and then 
> it flew across the yard. Luckily it flew away from me instead of in my face!
>
> Same as this, pretty much:
>
> http://www.finewoodworking.com/2009/11/19/the-mysterious-case-of-the-exploding-shellac-can
>
> So watch out for that old shellac... Or maybe switch to flakes?
>
>
> Cheers
>

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Beach Build

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Carla:  thank you!

Bill:  thank you :)  I used bar wrap left over from another handlebar 
project.  Although I like the how the harlequin wrap turned out, I'm not 
crazy about the color.  It looks better in bright sunlight but seems too 
monochromatic against the frame.  I am thinking of redoing it in maroon or 
eggplant to make the cream and dark caramel really pop.

Joe:  I was going for a 1950's Schwinn Hornet vibe but a chopper Rivendell 
is so much cooler ;)

Michael:  I bought the the bags as an impulse buy on Amazon because they 
were cheap and looked cool.  I removed the creepy red star logos because I 
didn't want my bike to be accused of belonging to Communist Army.  I 
decorated them with random stuff to make them my own.

Les:  I appreciate the tip.  The seafood and Cajun cuisine is one of the 
perks for living in this region.  If I wanted to spend a weekend in New 
Orleans with the therapist, any tips?  

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