[RBW] Re: FS: A. Homer Hilsen 65 Bike

[Ben Miller]

Absolutely 65 cm. But what's a couple of cm anyways?

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Re: [RBW] XO-1 frame for sale

[Mattt]

It is up to $538 on eBay.  Wow.  Much higher than I thought.  

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[RBW] Re: FS: A. Homer Hilsen 65 Bike

[John G.]

Absolutely, definitely a 65? Not a 63, by any chance?

On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 11:15:21 AM UTC-4, jim wrote:
>
> Beautiful bike!! Wish I wasn't getting laid off.
>
> Jim in Madison WI
>
> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 7:34:07 PM UTC-5, Ben Miller wrote:
>>
>> A complete Homer Hilsen bike for sale. I reckon Grant designed it to be a 
>> gentleman's country bike and I think this one lives up to that. A little 
>> beausage, but not much at all. Ernestly ridden over mountains and through 
>> valleys, as well as to more leisurely to market. This is one of the first 
>> run Homer's, from Toyo in Japan, I believe (I'm sure someone will correct 
>> me if it's actually from Waterford). But, it's honestly not got that many a 
>> kilometer on it. I'm it's second owner, as the first never rode it at all, 
>> due to back issues. It's a sweet whip, but I need room in my stable and it 
>> overlaps too much with another bike (too me, at least). Alright, enough 
>> prose, here are the brass tacks: 
>>
>> 65 cm Rivendell A Homer Hilsen 
>> Sugino Triple (46/36/24) 
>> IRD Triple Front Derailleur 
>> Shiman Deore Rear Derailleur 
>> Silver Down Tube Shifter (Front) 
>> Micro shift R9 brifter (Rear) 
>> Silver Long Reach Brakes 
>> Nitto Dirt Drop Handlebar  
>> Nitto Technomic Quill Stem 
>> Nitto S-83 seat post 
>> SP Dymano Front Hub 
>> Shimano Deore Rear Hub (9 speed) 
>> Shimano 9 speed Rear cassette (11-32T) 
>> Hand built wheels with Velocity Synergy rims (700c) 
>> Soma Supple V 700x40 tyres 
>> Supernova E3 front light plus taillight 
>> Nitto Mark's Front Rack 
>> Nitto Big Back Rack 
>> No pedals/saddle/water bottles/bags (I'll be keeping those) 
>>
>> Those are the particulars. Yeah, the shifting setup is a little odd, but 
>> it works well for me. Other than that, it's all Nitto'ed out for your 
>> aesthetic pleasure and durability. Ready for any road riding, touring, fire 
>> road, or bike camping trip you might want. And into the night or early 
>> morning with the dynamo setup. If you're not into nighttime riding or 
>> riding with racks we can discuss not including those. I may entertain 
>> frame-only offers, but I'd like to sell it more or less as a complete bike. 
>>
>> $2600 seems reasonable. That's what you'd get a frame for and this is 
>> without the wait! Link to picture picture below. There are other ones in 
>> the feed or I can send them directly if interested. Thanks for reading! 
>>
>> https://instagram.com/p/BG2d_hnl8Rb/
>
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[RBW] Re: Atop and Coffeeneuring #1

['mlpessar' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Well-written Patrick. Thanks.
-Marc.


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[RBW] Re: Whom to ask at Rivendell World Headquarters about specs for long-ago-built customs?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks again, all; Mark emailed today, and yes, he had been out of town.

Such ancient records may not be available, but he will look.

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[RBW] Re: Ventile Exploration

[Deacon Patrick]

Aye, here it is: http://hilltrek.co.uk/clothing/smocks/braemar-hybrid-smock/

On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 6:34:55 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Will,
>
> I'm pretty sure Hilltrek now has something like that. Your ideal may 
> exist! Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 5:51:40 PM UTC-6, William deRosset wrote:
>>
>> For me, the ideal would be a single-ventile lower half, and a 
>> double-ventile shoulder/arms with something like the Foinaven pattern, all 
>> other things equal.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ventile Exploration

[Deacon Patrick]

Will,

I'm pretty sure Hilltrek now has something like that. Your ideal may exist! 
Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 5:51:40 PM UTC-6, William deRosset wrote:
>
> For me, the ideal would be a single-ventile lower half, and a 
> double-ventile shoulder/arms with something like the Foinaven pattern, all 
> other things equal.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Garage Sale - Lots of great gear/parts

[Ian A]

Yes - that wheel is a super deal, but everything Isaac offered in his for sale 
post was priced very attractively. Another example of why this list and the 
iBob list are full of such good people. 

IanA

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[RBW] Re: Ventile Exploration

[John G.]

This sort of detailed write up is why I love this list.

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[RBW] Re: Ventile Exploration

[William deRosset]

Dear Andy,

A use-case summary: 

For winter use, I use a single-ventile anorak, the Braemar model 
"windshirt". It breathes exceptionally well, keeps wind off of you, and 
will keep a light rain off of your layers for a while. Heavy rain wets it 
out pretty quickly as Patrick notes. It works very well for highly-aerobic 
activities with appropriate layering to from 50degF (single wool t-shirt) 
to -12degF (wool t-shirt, either wool or polyester overshirt).

I really cannot use the analogy/cotton anorak above about 18degF for any 
kind of aerobic activity. I overheat, sweat it out even with the side vents 
and front zip open (I rarely use the hood) and the analogy pump layer stays 
clammy when wet in my experience. It is great for standing around in cold 
weather.

Patrick found the cotton/analogy combination to breathe better than the 
double ventile. My own experience was the opposite. For me, the ideal would 
be a single-ventile lower half, and a double-ventile shoulder/arms with 
something like the Foinaven pattern, all other things equal.

Good luck, and you won't go far astray with whatever you choose--Ventile 
cotton in its various iterations turns out to work really well as long as 
your criteria do not include extreme light weight and low volume when 
packed, and I use both my DV and SV jackets regularly. The SV one in 
particular gets heavy rotation, and I live with the very occasional wet-out 
in the shoulder seasons.

Best Regards,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 5:38:43 PM UTC-6, William deRosset wrote:
>
> Dear Andy,
>
> EDIT: back on topic, just moved my discussion from the coffee thread here 
> to help motivate the discussion and keep this one more compact (not that 
> encouraging folks to go look at the lovely photography in the prior 
> coffeneuring thread is a bad thing).
>
> The Hilltrek greenspot jacket in double ventile worked well for me for 
> both commuting (and backpacking up in the Wind Rivers and in the various 
> ranges west of me). I have an ventile+analogy anorak (in a slightly 
> different pattern) and it was just too bulky/heavy/hot/doesn't breathe 
> adequately for cycling or XC skiing use. For standing around in the cold 
> rain it is fine enough. It also breathes substantially less than a SV 
> Braemar anorak (which is not adequately waterproof for extended rain, 
> though that is my preferred winter solution here on the Front Range). I am 
> a heavy sweater, and live in a semi-arid environment. so take that into 
> account when talking about rainwear.
>
> I currently have one of their fuller-featured jackets after I left the 
> greenspot in a restaurant, and kinda regret not getting another greenspot. 
> It is a well-engineered garment. 
>
> A note on sizing: the greenspot required a size large (sleeve length), 
> while the Braemar/Foinaven/the other one whose name I cannot remember, 
> which is the Braemar in a full-zip, all were Mediums to fit.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
>
> William M. deRosset
> Fort Collins, CO
> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 2:35:53 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Andy Cheatham asked in my Coffeeneuring #2 thread how I like my Foinaven 
>> cotton analogy ventile smock by Hilltrek. I’m starting a separate thread so 
>> folks can follow or not as they desire.
>>
>> Simple answer, absolutely.
>>
>> Fuller answer is more complex as it involves the question of what factors 
>> will make single, double or cotton analogy ventile options work or not for 
>> any given person. Here are some of the factors I know make a difference.
>>
>> Humidity and temperature and precipitation. The higher the humidity, the 
>> more challenging it is to get rid of moisture inside any garment. The 
>> higher the temperature, the sooner the body will sweat. In high humidity 
>> and/or temperature increased ventilation levels help significantly. Even a 
>> single layer of ventile blocks all wind, so ventilation means loosening the 
>> hood/neck/waist. Depending on the amount/type of precipitation coming down, 
>> finding a balance is key. All of this is true for any rain garment, and is 
>> why less breathable jackets include pit zips. In my experience, these are 
>> not needed with ventile as all three types are far more breathable than 
>> synthetics. The general range I use my ventile cotton analogy is as warm as 
>> 60’s, raining, close to 100% humidity (wearing jacket only), down to -20˚F 
>> and colder, humidity ranging for near 100% to very low, wearing whatever 
>> layers are required under. For moisture management, the most challenging 
>> conditions are cold and wet and high humidity, with temperatures ranging 
>> from 50˚F down to 25˚F. For me, this is where cotton analogy ventile shines 
>> easily above all other comers, because it actively pushes moisture out. 
>> Fishnet underlayer is key to moisture management, allowing even a small 
>> amount of air flow to remove moisture, but also actively removing sweat 
>> 

[RBW] Re: Ventile Exploration

[William deRosset]

Dear Andy,

EDIT: back on topic, just moved my discussion from the coffee thread here 
to help motivate the discussion and keep this one more compact (not that 
encouraging folks to go look at the lovely photography in the prior 
coffeneuring thread is a bad thing).

The Hilltrek greenspot jacket in double ventile worked well for me for both 
commuting (and backpacking up in the Wind Rivers and in the various ranges 
west of me). I have an ventile+analogy anorak (in a slightly different 
pattern) and it was just too bulky/heavy/hot/doesn't breathe adequately for 
cycling or XC skiing use. For standing around in the cold rain it is fine 
enough. It also breathes substantially less than a SV Braemar anorak (which 
is not adequately waterproof for extended rain, though that is my preferred 
winter solution here on the Front Range). I am a heavy sweater, and live in 
a semi-arid environment. so take that into account when talking about 
rainwear.

I currently have one of their fuller-featured jackets after I left the 
greenspot in a restaurant, and kinda regret not getting another greenspot. 
It is a well-engineered garment. 

A note on sizing: the greenspot required a size large (sleeve length), 
while the Braemar/Foinaven/the other one whose name I cannot remember, 
which is the Braemar in a full-zip, all were Mediums to fit.

Best Regards,

Will

William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO
On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 2:35:53 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Andy Cheatham asked in my Coffeeneuring #2 thread how I like my Foinaven 
> cotton analogy ventile smock by Hilltrek. I’m starting a separate thread so 
> folks can follow or not as they desire.
>
> Simple answer, absolutely.
>
> Fuller answer is more complex as it involves the question of what factors 
> will make single, double or cotton analogy ventile options work or not for 
> any given person. Here are some of the factors I know make a difference.
>
> Humidity and temperature and precipitation. The higher the humidity, the 
> more challenging it is to get rid of moisture inside any garment. The 
> higher the temperature, the sooner the body will sweat. In high humidity 
> and/or temperature increased ventilation levels help significantly. Even a 
> single layer of ventile blocks all wind, so ventilation means loosening the 
> hood/neck/waist. Depending on the amount/type of precipitation coming down, 
> finding a balance is key. All of this is true for any rain garment, and is 
> why less breathable jackets include pit zips. In my experience, these are 
> not needed with ventile as all three types are far more breathable than 
> synthetics. The general range I use my ventile cotton analogy is as warm as 
> 60’s, raining, close to 100% humidity (wearing jacket only), down to -20˚F 
> and colder, humidity ranging for near 100% to very low, wearing whatever 
> layers are required under. For moisture management, the most challenging 
> conditions are cold and wet and high humidity, with temperatures ranging 
> from 50˚F down to 25˚F. For me, this is where cotton analogy ventile shines 
> easily above all other comers, because it actively pushes moisture out. 
> Fishnet underlayer is key to moisture management, allowing even a small 
> amount of air flow to remove moisture, but also actively removing sweat 
> (vapor and liquid) as I ride and when I stop. I experience double ventile 
> as staying cold and clammy much longer than cotton analogy. 
>
> Exertion level. When I bike harder, I sweat more. I climb a lot 
> (essentially half of my riding as there are no flats around here), and 
> there is no getting around warming up and sweating on these climbs. I 
> generally stay aerobic, so could hold a relaxed conversation while riding. 
> If I rode (as I used to) anaerobic much/all of the time, I would sweat a 
> lot more and the amount of moisture needing to get out would be 
> significantly higher. It took time to build my aerobic base, but now I ride 
> faster aerobically than I used to anaerobically, and for far longer, 
> requiring less water along the way. I also nearly always breathe only 
> through my nose and this helps regulate temperature in ways I don’t fully 
> understand. 
>
> Ventilation level. How open is the hood, neck and waste? Closed enough to 
> keep out precipitation, open enough to maximize air flow and direct removal 
> of perspiration. 
>
> Breathability of the fabric. Single ventile is most breathable. I 
> experience cotton analogy as next most breathable (but more insulating, 
> which may be what Will experiences and mentions in the other thread), 
> followed by double ventile, which is still far more breathable than 
> synthetics.
>
> Insulation of the fabric. Cotton analogy is the insulating equivalent of a 
> thin wool shirt under a single ventile jacket. I don’t experience much 
> difference between it and double layer ventile. Because of this, the cotton 
> analogy is bulkier, but I also don’t need to carry an extra layer of 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Garage Sale - Lots of great gear/parts

[Shawn Granton]

Uh, sure?
Thanks for the info

On Oct 16, 2017 15:39, "Orc"  wrote:

> If it's an A719, it's pretty much gotta be 700c, yes?
>
> -david "I'd snap this up, but I've already got a s3x at home" parsons
>
>
> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 2:41:08 PM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Philip, somehow I missed that IG picture. Still would like to know
>> wheel size.
>> -Shawn
>>
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2017 14:02, "Philip Williamson"  wrote:
>>
>> Hey Shawn, details are in the IG post, second picture. Looks like an S3X
>> with a trigger shifter at a pretty attractive price. I was attracted to
>> it for a freewheel setup, but I have too many spare wheels as it stands.
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BaSB6DpllLj/?hl=en=isaacenloe
>> "Sturmey Archer S3X internal fixed gear 3 speed hub on a Mavic A719 rim
>> with bar end shifter, cable, and routing. $90 shipped"
>>
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 12:17:51 PM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there! What are the details on the Sturmey Archer wheel? Like: hub
>>> model, number of speeds, size of wheel, and spoke count.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Shawn
>>
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[RBW] Re: Hanging Edelux + Nitto Big Front

[Minh]

Bill thanks for the suggestion, actually thats how i have my current light, 
but i've never liked it aesthetically and i feel it gets in the way--even 
though that makes the most practical sense (out in front, best light 
distribution etc).

david, thanks, i was thinking about p-clamps too, and that seems to be the 
simplest option.

appreciate all the ideas everybody!

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Garage Sale - Lots of great gear/parts

[Philip Williamson]

I think the 26" version is XM 719. 
Definitely hard to gauge diameter from that low-angle picture, though. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com
Santa Rosa, CA

On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 3:39:19 PM UTC-7, Orc wrote:
>
> If it's an A719, it's pretty much gotta be 700c, yes?
>
> -david "I'd snap this up, but I've already got a s3x at home" parsons
>
>
> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 2:41:08 PM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Philip, somehow I missed that IG picture. Still would like to know 
>> wheel size.
>> -Shawn
>>
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2017 14:02, "Philip Williamson"  wrote:
>>
>> Hey Shawn, details are in the IG post, second picture. Looks like an S3X 
>> with a trigger shifter at a pretty attractive price. I was attracted to 
>> it for a freewheel setup, but I have too many spare wheels as it stands.  
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BaSB6DpllLj/?hl=en=isaacenloe 
>> "Sturmey Archer S3X internal fixed gear 3 speed hub on a Mavic A719 rim 
>> with bar end shifter, cable, and routing. $90 shipped"
>>
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 12:17:51 PM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there! What are the details on the Sturmey Archer wheel? Like: hub 
>>> model, number of speeds, size of wheel, and spoke count.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Shawn
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Garage Sale - Lots of great gear/parts

[Orc]

If it's an A719, it's pretty much gotta be 700c, yes?

-david "I'd snap this up, but I've already got a s3x at home" parsons


On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 2:41:08 PM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>
> Thanks Philip, somehow I missed that IG picture. Still would like to know 
> wheel size.
> -Shawn
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2017 14:02, "Philip Williamson"  > wrote:
>
> Hey Shawn, details are in the IG post, second picture. Looks like an S3X 
> with a trigger shifter at a pretty attractive price. I was attracted to 
> it for a freewheel setup, but I have too many spare wheels as it stands.  
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BaSB6DpllLj/?hl=en=isaacenloe 
> "Sturmey Archer S3X internal fixed gear 3 speed hub on a Mavic A719 rim 
> with bar end shifter, cable, and routing. $90 shipped"
>
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
>
> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 12:17:51 PM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>>
>> Hi there! What are the details on the Sturmey Archer wheel? Like: hub 
>> model, number of speeds, size of wheel, and spoke count.
>> Thanks,
>> Shawn
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Garage Sale - Lots of great gear/parts

[Shawn Granton]

Thanks Philip, somehow I missed that IG picture. Still would like to know
wheel size.
-Shawn


On Oct 16, 2017 14:02, "Philip Williamson" 
wrote:

Hey Shawn, details are in the IG post, second picture. Looks like an S3X
with a trigger shifter at a pretty attractive price. I was attracted to it
for a freewheel setup, but I have too many spare wheels as it stands.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaSB6DpllLj/?hl=en=isaacenloe
"Sturmey Archer S3X internal fixed gear 3 speed hub on a Mavic A719 rim
with bar end shifter, cable, and routing. $90 shipped"


Philip
www.biketinker.com
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> Hi there! What are the details on the Sturmey Archer wheel? Like: hub
> model, number of speeds, size of wheel, and spoke count.
> Thanks,
> Shawn

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[RBW] Re: Hanging Edelux + Nitto Big Front

[lum gim fong]

My apologies.
Didn;t realize the rack in question had no eyelets.

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[RBW] Re: Hanging Edelux + Nitto Big Front

[Orc]

On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 11:25:06 AM UTC-7, Minh wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone come up with a creative solution for hanging an edelux when 
> using a Nitto Big Front Rack?  it does not have any side bosses that i 
> could use (like you would with a Marks Rack). 
>

Attach it via a p-clamp to one of the front rails (p-clamp + longish bolt + 
nut [to clamp the p- to the rail] + spacers [to get the light out far 
enough to clear the rail + antiDelux + nylock.)A fancy alternative if 
you have a soldering or brazing torch handy would be to get a suitably 
sized piece of allthread, then solder/braze a nut on far enough to clamp 
the p-, then do nylock + p-clamp + previously soldered nut + spacers + 
antiDelux + nylock.

-david parsons

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[RBW] Re: FS: Garage Sale - Lots of great gear/parts

[Philip Williamson]

Hey Shawn, details are in the IG post, second picture. Looks like an S3X 
with a trigger shifter at a pretty attractive price. I was attracted to it 
for a freewheel setup, but I have too many spare wheels as it stands.  

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaSB6DpllLj/?hl=en=isaacenloe 
"Sturmey Archer S3X internal fixed gear 3 speed hub on a Mavic A719 rim 
with bar end shifter, cable, and routing. $90 shipped"


Philip
www.biketinker.com
Santa Rosa, CA


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>
> Hi there! What are the details on the Sturmey Archer wheel? Like: hub 
> model, number of speeds, size of wheel, and spoke count.
> Thanks,
> Shawn

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[RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring #2

[Deacon Patrick]

Great question, Andy. Simple answer, absolutely! More complex answer, I 
figured I should start a thread as there are many factors that influence 
which ventile (single, double, cotton analogy). New thread 
here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/lLmVUgrub5o

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 10:29:20 AM UTC-6, ascpgh wrote:
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>
> Still happy with your Foinaven smock?
>

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[RBW] Ventile Exploration

[Deacon Patrick]

Andy Cheatham asked in my Coffeeneuring #2 thread how I like my Foinaven cotton 
analogy ventile smock by Hilltrek. I’m starting a separate thread so folks can 
follow or not as they desire.

Simple answer, absolutely.

Fuller answer is more complex as it involves the question of what factors will 
make single, double or cotton analogy ventile options work or not for any given 
person. Here are some of the factors I know make a difference.

Humidity and temperature and precipitation. The higher the humidity, the more 
challenging it is to get rid of moisture inside any garment. The higher the 
temperature, the sooner the body will sweat. In high humidity and/or 
temperature increased ventilation levels help significantly. Even a single 
layer of ventile blocks all wind, so ventilation means loosening the 
hood/neck/waist. Depending on the amount/type of precipitation coming down, 
finding a balance is key. All of this is true for any rain garment, and is why 
less breathable jackets include pit zips. In my experience, these are not 
needed with ventile as all three types are far more breathable than synthetics. 
The general range I use my ventile cotton analogy is as warm as 60’s, raining, 
close to 100% humidity (wearing jacket only), down to -20˚F and colder, 
humidity ranging for near 100% to very low, wearing whatever layers are 
required under. For moisture management, the most challenging conditions are 
cold and wet and high humidity, with temperatures ranging from 50˚F down to 
25˚F. For me, this is where cotton analogy ventile shines easily above all 
other comers, because it actively pushes moisture out. Fishnet underlayer is 
key to moisture management, allowing even a small amount of air flow to remove 
moisture, but also actively removing sweat (vapor and liquid) as I ride and 
when I stop. I experience double ventile as staying cold and clammy much longer 
than cotton analogy. 

Exertion level. When I bike harder, I sweat more. I climb a lot (essentially 
half of my riding as there are no flats around here), and there is no getting 
around warming up and sweating on these climbs. I generally stay aerobic, so 
could hold a relaxed conversation while riding. If I rode (as I used to) 
anaerobic much/all of the time, I would sweat a lot more and the amount of 
moisture needing to get out would be significantly higher. It took time to 
build my aerobic base, but now I ride faster aerobically than I used to 
anaerobically, and for far longer, requiring less water along the way. I also 
nearly always breathe only through my nose and this helps regulate temperature 
in ways I don’t fully understand. 

Ventilation level. How open is the hood, neck and waste? Closed enough to keep 
out precipitation, open enough to maximize air flow and direct removal of 
perspiration. 

Breathability of the fabric. Single ventile is most breathable. I experience 
cotton analogy as next most breathable (but more insulating, which may be what 
Will experiences and mentions in the other thread), followed by double ventile, 
which is still far more breathable than synthetics.

Insulation of the fabric. Cotton analogy is the insulating equivalent of a thin 
wool shirt under a single ventile jacket. I don’t experience much difference 
between it and double layer ventile. Because of this, the cotton analogy is 
bulkier, but I also don’t need to carry an extra layer of insulation. I just 
plan accordingly. Double ventile is slightly less bulky and single ventile is 
smaller yet. All are bulkier than many synthetics. All are quieter than 
synthetics. All breathe more than any waterproof synthetics.

Waterproofness of the fabric. Single layer ventile: 10 minutes of good rain 
will start to soak through. Double layer and cotton analogy are nearly the 
same, but I experience the cotton analogy as superior at actively pushing 
moisture out so I stay dryer, which matches the descriptions from Hilltrek and 
many of their customers.

Longevity of the garment: I’d have to look, but I’ve had my first cotton 
analogy jacket for over four years of hard, dirty use and I rarely wash it 
(they suggest washing far more than I do) and it works just as well now as they 
day I got it except the exterior spray on coating is long gone, but the jacket 
works just as well. The outer layer just gets stiff when wet from holding 
moisture, which is how ventile is supposed to work.

Which is right for you? No idea. But hopefully these factors combined with my 
and others experience will help narrow things down as to what to try first.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Hanging Edelux + Nitto Big Front

[Bill Lindsay]

How do you propose he “try that” on a Nitto Big Front Rack??  I don’t see any 
suitable location to utilize a Sheldon nut on a Nitto Big Front Rack.  

That is a good general solution that I am using on a Marks Rack. I’m also using 
that solution on a Campee F27.  Unless I’m overlooking a very clever mechanical 
maneuver, it’s not an option on a Nitto Big Front, because there is no good 
place to put it. You could hide it way in the back where the stays are fixed 
but that’s a lousy place for a lamp and it would prevent you from hanging a 
pannier, which kind of defeats the purpose of the Big Front Rack. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Garage Sale - Lots of great gear/parts

[Shawn Granton]

Hi there! What are the details on the Sturmey Archer wheel? Like: hub model, 
number of speeds, size of wheel, and spoke count.
Thanks,
Shawn

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Re: [RBW] XO-1 frame for sale

[Ryan Fleming]

And speaking of rust...I suspect there's a fair bit. and yeah, $950 is an 
optimistic price to say the least; especially for a frame. Hey they are 
great bikes, but it's a 24 years old frame. 

$200 and it might be a good foundation for a  great rider

On Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 4:21:29 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Rust never sleeps. 

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[RBW] Re: Hanging Edelux + Nitto Big Front

[Bill Lindsay]

On a Big Front Rack, or on ANY Nitto Rack with a front reflector tab, I 
would always attach the dynamo headlamp to that front tab, using one of 
these:

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/lights/products/edelux-light-mounts

A hanging Edelux might look a little goofy since the mount goes UP and then 
the lamp comes DOWN, but I would still put it there.  In fact, my 
HubbuHubbuH tandem came with dynamo wheels and I have a Big Front Rack on 
there, and I am just about to pick a lamp.  That's definitely where it's 
going, with that mount.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 11:25:06 AM UTC-7, Minh wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone come up with a creative solution for hanging an edelux when 
> using a Nitto Big Front Rack?  it does not have any side bosses that i 
> could use (like you would with a Marks Rack).  Has anyone come up with 
> adapters?   
>
> I have a basket on it right now, so i was thinking of bolting a flat piece 
> of stock to the bottom of the basket and using a fender light mount upside 
> down (like this http://www.velolumino.com/at-headlight-mount.html) or 
> fashioning something similiar.  But looking for more ideas, thanks for any!
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Gear Swap at Chi Patagonia

[Karl]

Man! Looks like a great time. I should have moved my Chicago week up a month to 
enjoy this!

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[RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring #2

[William deRosset]

Dear Andy,

Drifting OT. The coffee outside photos are lovely, as always. Now, away 
from the experience and to the gear

The Hilltrek greenspot jacket in double ventile worked well for me for both 
commuting (and backpacking up in the Wind Rivers and in the various ranges 
west of me). I have an ventile+analogy anorak (in a slightly different 
pattern) and it was just too bulky/heavy/hot/doesn't breathe adequately for 
cycling or XC skiing use. For standing around in the cold rain it is fine 
enough. It also breathes substantially less than a SV Braemar anorak (which 
is not adequately waterproof for extended rain, though that is my preferred 
winter solution here on the Front Range). I am a heavy sweater, and live in 
a semi-arid environment. so take that into account when talking about 
rainwear.

I currently have one of their fuller-featured jackets after I left the 
greenspot in a restaurant, and kinda regret not getting another greenspot. 
It is a well-engineered garment. 

A note on sizing: the greenspot required a size large (sleeve length), 
while the Braemar/Foinaven/the other one whose name I cannot remember, 
which is the Braemar in a full-zip, all were Mediums to fit.

Best Regards,

Will
On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 10:29:20 AM UTC-6, ascpgh wrote:
>
> Your cups (and their pictures) are mighty. 
>
> Still happy with your Foinaven smock?  I'm near my decision and doing 
> compulsory cost/benefit reviews of SV, DV and Analogy products.  My low 
> satisfaction with the performance or service life of a series of products 
> has me asking myself why didn't I reach this conclusion earlier. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Saturday, October 14, 2017 at 3:13:55 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/coffeeneuring-2
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> www.CredoFamily.org
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Hanging Edelux + Nitto Big Front

[Minh]

Hi all,

Has anyone come up with a creative solution for hanging an edelux when 
using a Nitto Big Front Rack?  it does not have any side bosses that i 
could use (like you would with a Marks Rack).  Has anyone come up with 
adapters?   

I have a basket on it right now, so i was thinking of bolting a flat piece 
of stock to the bottom of the basket and using a fender light mount upside 
down (like this http://www.velolumino.com/at-headlight-mount.html) or 
fashioning something similiar.  But looking for more ideas, thanks for any!

 

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[RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring #2

[ascpgh]

Your cups (and their pictures) are mighty. 

Still happy with your Foinaven smock?  I'm near my decision and doing 
compulsory cost/benefit reviews of SV, DV and Analogy products.  My low 
satisfaction with the performance or service life of a series of products 
has me asking myself why didn't I reach this conclusion earlier. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

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>
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/coffeeneuring-2
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Need help with Romulus Decals

[Roadie1432]

That is a sweet bike! The decals you have would work just fine for me. I 
will call Rivendell HQ on Tuesday and see what I can find out. If that 
doesn't work out I may ask you for measurements and close-up photos of your 
decals so I can get some made. I am considering Velocals, among others. If 
Velocals agrees to make them, then they would be available for everybody.

On Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 5:37:53 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>
> I got the impression when I spoke to them that decals weren't an issue. 
>  Here is a photo of what they sent me: https://flic.kr/p/CrSpow
> I have never bothered to compare them with the original until your post 
> got me thinking.  In comparing my decals to "original" ones in photos on 
> the Internet, my downtube sticker looks the same, but the seattube R is a 
> bit different.  Just an FYI.
> Rivendell did tell me too not to lose the headbadge as they had no more!
> Good luck. 

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[RBW] Re: Need help with Romulus Decals

[Roadie1432]

I plan on contacting them Tueday, soonest I will have the time. Hopefully 
they still have some. I will post what I find out. 

On Sunday, October 15, 2017 at 10:12:50 PM UTC-4, LBleriot wrote:
>
> I bought the original proto Rom built by Nobilette a couple of years back. 
>  Its seat tube decal was a paper transfer that basically disintegrated. 
>  When I contacted Riv for decals, they sent me protovelo decals but no Rom 
> decals.  I hope they find some for you. Please let us know how you make 
> out. 

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[RBW] Wrecked my Atlantis

[William R.]

Hi John,

Sorry to hear of your accident. Hope you are feeling better. I live across the 
river in Westchester. It’s not hard to imagine such a thing happening. These 
things happen anywhere.

Are you thinking about Grants Appaloosa option? Not sure what size Atlantis you 
have, but if you are interested in seeing and/or trying one, I’ve got one. It’s 
a 58. Same intended purpose as an Atlantis, but different, I love mine.

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] German Mirror Basket Mount

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

I saw someone who mounted their German Mirror on a Wald basket instead of the 
bars. Can't find the picture now. Anyone tried it before? Does it work? I had 
another mirror mounted to my basket that work well, but it stuck out and then 
my bike fell over and it broke. I'd love to keep all the space possible on my 
handlebars. 

Cheers,
Tim
Portland, OR

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