[RBW] Jenny's bikes

[Joe Bernard]

Speaking of style (which I was on the "What is Rivvish" thread but I 
accidentally deleted instead of sending and didn't try again), does anyone have 
more bike style than Jenny? The transparent blue grips, the Promenade bars 
excellently set as a straight line from the saddle..a stylin' 'broken foot' 
scooter! I need to hang around Jenny for a while and see if I can pick up some 
style vibes. Check it out:

https://www.rivbike.com/pages/jennys-staff-bikes

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[RBW] Re: Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

[Isaiah Kramer]

Is that the original fork? I detect a bit more rake than a typical 
rivendell. Also the two sets of eyelets.

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 8:45:12 PM UTC-7, Craig Montgomery wrote:
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> After 2 decades of beating the doo-doo out of my All Rounder I broke down 
> and got it repainted. Omar at Oasis Custom Cycles in Glendale (100 miles 
> away because Tucson doesn't have a frame painter) did an excellent better 
> than original job of doing the classic XO-1 burnt orange. And then I got 
> this bug up my derriere. My recessive anglophile genes started mutating 
> into dominance.I think my soul was invaded by some ancient Druidic spirit 
> and I decided to try box lining the frame (to the notes of Rule Britannia 
> pounding my psyche). Spent hours staring at the Bicycle Pin Striping 
> Flickr  https://www.flickr.com/groups/971940@N22/ and my Jack Taylor, and 
> Condor, and Holdsworth, and Mercians, and my Bates. So I grabbed a paint 
> pen from Hobby Lobby and went to town. Enjoy Rivophiles. 
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[RBW] Re: Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

[Craig Montgomery]

When I retired Joe my work buddies pinched in and presented me with a 25 
year old bottle of Laphroig Scotch. One small shot really helps in such 
circumstances. Keeps those lines smooth!

Craig 

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 12:47:00 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> You're a brave man, Craig. I love box-lining, but I wouldn't date try it 
> myself. Well done, sir!

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[RBW] Re: Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

[Craig Montgomery]

Matt, yes, that is a custom fork, done by Ed Foster of La Suprema Cycles 
here in Tucson. I drank the low trail kool-aid because I tour with a good 
chunk of weight up front (roughly 60 rear/40 front) and I climb steep dirt 
roads in the Sky Island country of southern Arizona. Low trail really does 
work in those contexts. BUT (and this is a big butt), I also had Omar paint 
the original fork just in case I do a philosophical about face. Cover your 
derriere big fella :^)

Craig 

 

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 6:16:01 AM UTC-7, Matt B. wrote:
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> Fabulous!  Well done sir.  I'm curious about the fork- is it custom?  
> Danged nice AR you have there man.
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> On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 11:45:12 PM UTC-4, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>>
>> After 2 decades of beating the doo-doo out of my All Rounder I broke down 
>> and got it repainted. Omar at Oasis Custom Cycles in Glendale (100 miles 
>> away because Tucson doesn't have a frame painter) did an excellent better 
>> than original job of doing the classic XO-1 burnt orange. And then I got 
>> this bug up my derriere. My recessive anglophile genes started mutating 
>> into dominance.I think my soul was invaded by some ancient Druidic spirit 
>> and I decided to try box lining the frame (to the notes of Rule Britannia 
>> pounding my psyche). Spent hours staring at the Bicycle Pin Striping 
>> Flickr  https://www.flickr.com/groups/971940@N22/ and my Jack Taylor, 
>> and Condor, and Holdsworth, and Mercians, and my Bates. So I grabbed a 
>> paint pen from Hobby Lobby and went to town. Enjoy Rivophiles. 
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[RBW] actual Roadini geometry specs?

[eflayer]

I get GP's orientation to PBH but give the rest of the biking world a 
break. What are the actual dimensions of this frameset?

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[Belopsky]

57cm and 76cm

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[RBW] Re: Clem L vs Roscoe Bubbe Mountain Mixte

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

These photos are slightly dated, but they do show  el Clem at work, shop, 
play, and repose. Forgot to smile for that self-timed photo, but I will 
say nobody's yet made fun of me for riding a "girls" bike. I only wish it 
came in dark pink.


On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:16:37 PM UTC-7, Andrew Huston wrote:
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> Tell/show where and how you ride them.  Photos encouraged!
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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[Don Compton]

Bill, Beautiful build. I am trying to get a feeling for Roadinis. The 
toptube slopes more than my Roadeo. What size your frame and what is your 
saddle height?
Thanks,Don Compton

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 12:47:02 PM UTC-7, William R. wrote:
>
> I took my first "serious" ride on my new Roadini this morning. 28 chilly, 
> brisk, Halloween miles! Short version is it is beautiful, awesome and 
> everything you expect from Rivendell. You may skip to the photos now if you 
> wish...
>
>
> I was notified that Leo Roadini had arrived at my local FedEx location on 
> Friday. Work was crazy and I didn't want to be hasty so I waited until 
> Saturday morning to pick it up. Out of the box everything was packed very 
> well. My daughter assisted me with unpacking. She complained that it was 
> heavy, but I didn't think so... Once unpacked I took a good look at the 
> frame. What a beauty! Rivendell's attention to detail is so high. The new 
> seat lug is a thing of beauty, right down err up to the little curly cue 
> point where the seat post goes in. Nicer than the simple point on my 
> Appaloosa. The decals and gorgeous grilver paint are executed so nicely. 
> The welds in the places where there are no lugs are uniform and clean. I 
> really like the "napkin holders" on the head tube also. I think they serve 
> a structural purpose and are aesthetically pleasing too.
>
>
> We had a lot of soccer and projects for school going on this weekend. I 
> was sure I would not get it built up over the weekend. Still, knowing I was 
> taking today off, I was hoping that maybe by Tuesday I could get it out for 
> at least a shake down ride. Well, as luck would have it, we got hit with a 
> pretty nasty east coast rain storm that was just a drencher all day Sunday. 
> All soccer was cancelled. Projects were done on Saturday. Besides cooking 
> and chasing cabin feverish kids around the house from time to time, I was 
> able to focus on the build.
>
>
> Again, as I went about the build I was continually impressed by Rivs level 
> of attention. Obviously they took it out of the box and went over it before 
> shipping it on to me. Even the water bottle screws had been taken out and 
> the threads lightly greased. I could also tell that a wheel set was very 
> lightly installed. Alignment check? I appreciate that they took the time to 
> do these things. I have had a couple of other frames from other companies 
> that I know were built in the same neighborhood in Taiwan, if not the same 
> factory. I never got the impression that they had left their boxes from the 
> time they were packed at the factory. Luckily there were no problems with 
> those frames, but as time goes on, all of these things that Riv does add up 
> and keep me coming back.
>
>
> The build went smoothly, most of the parts used were from my used parts 
> bin. Some of you may remember me trying to sell my Compass Rene Herse 
> crankset about a year ago. I'm glad nothing came of that! This is the 
> perfect frame for that crank. I also had the SKF bottom bracket, so I 
> pulled the one that came with the frame and installed those. The chainrings 
> are a little worn though and the cassette that I am using here has some 
> miles too. I recently installed a new chain on these used parts and was 
> experiencing some chain skip. To avoid that I put a new chain on my 
> Appaloosa and used the old chain here. It has maybe 1200 miles on it and it 
> worked perfectly. The drive train is quiet, smooth and there is no skip. 
> Maybe I can rehab this drivetrain a bit and get the most miles out of it by 
> cutting down on the miles that I put on the new chain on the Appaloosa 
> before I switch it over to the Roadini little-by-little over time?
>
>
> When Will called me to tell me that the frame was ready to ship, he also 
> mentioned that it was coming with a seat post. I was happy to hear this. I 
> thought Grant said that posts would not be included with these Roadini's. 
> The only 26.8mm post that I had on hand was a super long mtb post. I didn't 
> really want to use that one and was contemplating cutting it. Glad the 
> frame came with the post and I didn't have to deal with any of that. The 
> only new parts that I had to get were the wheels and the brake calipers. I 
> had the buttery Simplex Retrofriction shifters. I also had the cockpit: 48 
> Noodles, Shimano levers and Nitto 9cm stem. I have two pretty used tire 
> choices that I need to wear out before I get any new tires. I decided to 
> start with the Kojaks. They are worn a little square but definitely have 
> some life left in them. Nominally they are 35s, but they measure 32 on the 
> A23 rims with tubes. I also have a pair of Jack Brown Greens that I suspect 
> will measure out closer to their 33.3 size. I have 3 Brooks B17 saddles. 
> The newest one is on the Appaloosa and is staying there. My son is using 
> another on his Crosscheck. The oldest one by far is this one on this build. 
> Bought, 

[RBW] FS: 62cm Quickbeam (with extra beausage!)

[Karl]

So glad this isn’t a 58cm. I’d be on a plane tomorrow! Such a great deal!

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[RBW] Re: Clem L vs Roscoe Bubbe Mountain Mixte

[Andrew Huston]

Steve, any idea on max tire for the Roscoe?

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Rivendell Silver Shifters

[lum gim fong]

I like the SS1's for DT shifting because they are long and the lever ends are 
tilted perfectly for an easy grab. Just started DT shifting and love it so far. 
Used to use SS1 bar ends. They are great for that, too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Rivendell Silver Shifters

[Grant Petersen]

I'm told, yes, That's what inspired the v.2,  Dia-Compe has its own version
using our tooling, tho.

B,

G


On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:11 AM, lum gim fong  wrote:

> So the original SS1 is still dying out?
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Bill Lindsay]

15,000 miles in three months is a 170 mile a day average. I hope that’s a typo

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

If this sale had come up 4 months ago, I would've have been totally down 
for this set up.  I greatly admired the sage Sam's but thought they needed 
the contrasting cream head tubes.  I really like how they have expanded the 
tire width accommodation.  

I really love my Appaloosa and have put over 15k miles in the past three 
months.  But it would have been a much harder decision if this was on the 
table.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 1:47:33 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I hope somebody follows Will's advice and builds a two-speed Cheviot.  
> Will recommended a 17T freewheel with a 40/26 in front and a Paul Melvin.  
> That would rock.  No derailleurs at all would be fine.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 5:09:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> That price is like found money.  Criminy.  Remember you get your 5% 
>> rebate on that $1000 also, so it's really like $950.
>>
>> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 3:51:00 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> I just got this email from Riv. New frames going for $1000 today; up 
>>> $100 a day til they're at full price Monday. Yes I have a perfectly 
>>> wonderful Clem L, but I couldn't resist that price on a Roadini Blue Chev. 
>>> Fortunately all my Clem stuff will transfer, so prepare for a Clem L frame 
>>> for sale in a couple months! 
>>> Check the site right now don't wait hurry go. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bill:

The bike turned out beautifully.  I like the green against the grilver 
frame.  Although the color looks like it would go well with any bar wrap 
color.  

Your daughter is a cutie and I'm glad you are starting her early on a love 
of bikes :)

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks for the info, Chris. I confirmed the paint option with Will @ Riv so now 
oooh my poor brain. I love the Roadini Blue I ordered, but maybe Candy Apple 
Red would be nice. Metallic Purple! ;-)

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[RBW] FS: 62cm Quickbeam (with extra beausage!)

[Philip Williamson]

I think that’s a great bike, in great knock-around could condition, at a great 
price.

Philip
www.biketinker.com
Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Re: Clem L vs Roscoe Bubbe Mountain Mixte

[Steve Butcher]

Andrew, I have a Rosco Mixte from the first run.  You and I are basically 
the same size.  My Rosco fits me quite well.  I'm running WTB Horizon 47c 
tires plus with plenty of clearance.  This is my commuting bike over a mix 
of chip/seal and gravel roads.  I really enjoy the float it gives me on 
gravel.  The chain stay length is shorter than the Clem L.  I test rode a 
Clem L at A1 about a year ago.  It felt like a luxurious cruiser whilst the 
Rosco is just a bit more lively.  

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 5:16:37 PM UTC-5, Andrew Huston wrote:
>
> I had a nice chat with Romand from Riv and Chris from A1 regarding both 
> the Clem L and Rosco Mixte.  They were full of good info, as usual, but I 
> really like to hear what folks on here think.  
> I have a 51 Appaloosa and I just feel it may be a touch small for my 
> liking.  It is for sale in case you were wondering.  I probably can't go 
> wrong either way but the popular X vs Y conversation is always fun for me. 
>  I like the larger tire clearance than the Cheviot offers and have slowly 
> become smitten by the step thru phenomena.  
> 5'10" and 84 PBH.  Tell/show where and how you ride them.  Photos 
> encouraged!
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[Belopsky]

Bike came together very well! 

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[RBW] Re: Clem L vs Roscoe Bubbe Mountain Mixte

[Joe Bernard]

Test ride! That's nice of you, Igor. Have fun, Andrew!

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Joe and William, I arranged in advance for Rick at D to paint the frame 
and then return it to Riv for build up.  I like the gliver color a lot but 
I have a silver Joe and a similar blue Soma San Marcos and the new Mountain 
Mixte which is another shade of blue.  So, I already had both the blue and 
silver Rivs  covered at this point.  I decided to have this frame painted 
metallic black.  Thought that it is a classic color that would go with 
almost any bar and saddle colors.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 5:58:54 PM UTC-4, William R. wrote:
>
> Thanks Chris. And like Joe, I would like to hear the details of your 
> custom paint. Who is doing it and what color or colors.
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem L vs Roscoe Bubbe Mountain Mixte

[Belopsky]

Andrew I'll have my Clem L tomorrow. 52cm frame. 5'7 83PBH..come ride it

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 6:16:37 PM UTC-4, Andrew Huston wrote:
>
> I had a nice chat with Romand from Riv and Chris from A1 regarding both 
> the Clem L and Rosco Mixte.  They were full of good info, as usual, but I 
> really like to hear what folks on here think.  
> I have a 51 Appaloosa and I just feel it may be a touch small for my 
> liking.  It is for sale in case you were wondering.  I probably can't go 
> wrong either way but the popular X vs Y conversation is always fun for me. 
>  I like the larger tire clearance than the Cheviot offers and have slowly 
> become smitten by the step thru phenomena.  
> 5'10" and 84 PBH.  Tell/show where and how you ride them.  Photos 
> encouraged!
>

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[RBW] Clem L vs Roscoe Bubbe Mountain Mixte

[Andrew Huston]

I had a nice chat with Romand from Riv and Chris from A1 regarding both the 
Clem L and Rosco Mixte.  They were full of good info, as usual, but I 
really like to hear what folks on here think.  
I have a 51 Appaloosa and I just feel it may be a touch small for my 
liking.  It is for sale in case you were wondering.  I probably can't go 
wrong either way but the popular X vs Y conversation is always fun for me. 
 I like the larger tire clearance than the Cheviot offers and have slowly 
become smitten by the step thru phenomena.  
5'10" and 84 PBH.  Tell/show where and how you ride them.  Photos 
encouraged!

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[William R.]

Thanks Ryan. The neutral gray/silver color invites all kinds of colors in 
doesn't it? I do like how the green and red tie in with the subtle colors 
in the decals.

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[RBW] Rambouillet Around Town

[lum gim fong]

Pics of the Rambouillet as I go places around town.
I'll add more as time goes on.
I am planning to take my real camera along. Most of these are iPhone photos.
Just for fun.
Enjoy.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/0C1020

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[William R.]

Thanks Chris. And like Joe, I would like to hear the details of your custom 
paint. Who is doing it and what color or colors.

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[RBW] Re: Alex DM 24 Rims

[Joe Bernard]

Amusingly - I know Grant had no intention of these things converging - I have a 
Clem L with "ebike rims"..and it's an ebike! I can verify that those thick rim 
walls can scrub a lot of heat from a bike much heavier and faster than 
intended. They work!

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[RBW] Re: Alex DM 24 Rims

[Doug H.]

Please post pics!

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 9:05:16 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
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> I have a Clem en route as of tomorrow so I will know by end of week ;)
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Joe Bernard]

BILL.

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Bill Lindsay]

As tempting as it may be, I do not need to see a FIXIE DISKY MIXTE.   Maybe 
it would be cool to see one with 584mm wheels, which might be called a SIX 
FIFTY DISKY MIXTE.  The most perverse one might be to get one custom built 
in Titanium, in which case you might end up with a:

*LYNSKEY SIX FIFTY FIXIE DISKY MIXTE*



On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 1:37:43 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> That's a nifty DISKY MIXTE. I want one just like that, clear coated!

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[Joe Bernard]

Being painted? How does that work, did you order a custom paint job?

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Thanks for posting your build.  You did a really nice job and nice to hear 
you had an "in house" helper!  Mine is being painted so I have to wait just 
a bit and then Riv is going to do the honors of turning it into a bike.  
More ride reports please when you can!
Chris

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 4:38:06 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:

> nice post and bike...need some green candy pedals. Actually really nice 
> looking and boy, Riv sure packs their bikes well, don't they
>
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:06:21 PM UTC-5, William R. wrote:
>>
>> Ha! You know it Mark. That is easily done on this one!
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[R Shannon]

That is one nice “disky mixte”. Beautiful proportions. Thanks  for sharing Bill.

Best,
Richard

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> On Oct 31, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> That's a nifty DISKY MIXTE. I want one just like that, clear coated!
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[RBW] FS: 62cm Quickbeam (with extra beausage!)

[Brad]

FS: 62cm Quickbeam (with extra beausage!)

I'm asking $500. I live in Queens, NY and I'd prefer not to ship (I'm not 
great at packing & shipping bikes and I'd like the buyer to have a chance 
to see all the flaws before paying).

If I don't get any local takers after a week, I'll do $500 + shipping.

I've owned this Quickbeam since 2010 when I bought it from former Riv 
employee John. It's a great bike, but the 62 was always a little big for 
me. My PBH is 88 and I had about 1-2 inches of seat post showing. I'll 
consider getting another QB (or SO) if a smaller one pops up. I just bought 
a Clem L to ride as my daily commuter.

It's beat up (particularly by RBW list standards).  I'm pricing it low 
enough that a prospective buyer can get it repainted, but it's rideable as 
is.

I posted a folder of images here:  

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2RlD4bMUJSQdmdwbS1WLXYtV00?usp=sharing

I'm including everything in the photos EXCEPT the bars, stem, and brake 
levers.

That includes:

frame
headset
bottom bracket
cranks (175mm XD2 triple with the guard and one chainring. It's a 170mm 
crank in the photos, but I'll switch it back to the 175mm)
brakes (silver Tektro 720 with new pads)
front wheel (oldish Mavic (whatever the Open Pro replaced) rim 
with basic Suzue track hub)
rear wheel (oldish Velocity Dyad rim laced to Surly fixed/fixed hub- built 
by Peter White)
seatpost (Nitto S65)
All the other stuff: chain, freewheel, Schwalbe Marathon tires

Frame condition:  

There are two dents on the top tube that were there when I bought 
the bike. The paint is in rough shape. There are small nicks everywhere. I 
tend to sit on the top tube at red lights and a long strip of paint there 
is rubbed down to the grey primer. There's more significant wear where the 
fenders rubbed on the inside of the fork crown, chainstays, and seat stays. 
And there's wear from one of those Nitto wire guards that holds a saddlebag 
off of cantilever brake cables. There are a few small rust spots, but 
nothing that looks too bad. The decals range from bad condition to almost 
gone condition!

All the parts on the bike on the bike are well-used, but everything is 
still in good working condition.

Contact me off-list if you're interested.

Brad Paris
Queens

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[Ryan Fleming]

nice post and bike...need some green candy pedals. Actually really nice 
looking and boy, Riv sure packs their bikes well, don't they

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:06:21 PM UTC-5, William R. wrote:
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> Ha! You know it Mark. That is easily done on this one!

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Joe Bernard]

That's a nifty DISKY MIXTE. I want one just like that, clear coated!

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Bill Lindsay]

Joe is probably right that Rivendell won't likely add disc brakes to a step 
through, but as a bike mechanic the thing I dislike the most about most 
step-through bikes is the rear brake cable routing.  A "DISKY MIXTE" would 
eliminate those routing workarounds by running everything down the 
downtube.  Even if Riv doesn't ever build one, I want to see more DISKY 
MIXTES.  Ahearne has done several.  This should be a link to one of them:  
DISKY 
MIXTE 


 Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 12:42:46 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Ha! I don't think Riv is ever going to do discs, but if one of the 
> youngsters talked Grant into it, it would be on a stout TIG'd model like 
> the Clem. Which currently comes as a step-through with cantis, so I don't 
> see the need to change brakes on the Cheviot. Chev is more of a 
> road/country bike like the Hilsen and Hillborne, but with a dropped toptube 
> (droptube). I think it's pretty cool the way it is. 

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Not a Cheviot, but I have similar drivetrain plans for my Clem.  Well, I 
should more accurately state that I've been trying to decide between doing 
the Paul Melvin dingle thing with a single cog and spacers on the stock 
rear wheel and Silver double crank vs. a 1x9 using a spare crank (or 
1-at-a-time x 9 with the stock Silver double) and 12-36 9sp cassette.

I'd need to get a spacer kit if choosing the former but have the Melvin and 
all other parts sitting around waiting.  Nothing wrong with the current 2x8 
stock build but I haven't been getting much mileage lately and found 
the limited gearing of a single or 1x9 will be plenty for my expected 
riding  and I'm catching the tinkering bug again after a 6 month self 
imposed moratorium.

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville, NJ

 

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 2:47:33 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I hope somebody follows Will's advice and builds a two-speed Cheviot.  
> Will recommended a 17T freewheel with a 40/26 in front and a Paul Melvin.  
> That would rock.  No derailleurs at all would be fine.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 5:09:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> That price is like found money.  Criminy.  Remember you get your 5% 
>> rebate on that $1000 also, so it's really like $950.
>>
>> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 3:51:00 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> I just got this email from Riv. New frames going for $1000 today; up 
>>> $100 a day til they're at full price Monday. Yes I have a perfectly 
>>> wonderful Clem L, but I couldn't resist that price on a Roadini Blue Chev. 
>>> Fortunately all my Clem stuff will transfer, so prepare for a Clem L frame 
>>> for sale in a couple months! 
>>> Check the site right now don't wait hurry go. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Bicycle Belle Ding Ding

[Joe Bernard]

Leah, my understanding is photo links are recommended, but it's not a 100% 
ironclad rule and I see photos in posts all the time. Show us the pics! With 
the words!

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

[William R.]

Ha! You know it Mark. That is easily done on this one!

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[RBW] Re: Roadini build and first ride report!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Great build, Bill. The bike looks terrific. And the good news is, we only 
need to lower the saddle 1cm and the bars about 3cm when I test ride it 
next time you're up this way!;^)

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 12:47:02 PM UTC-7, William R. wrote:
>
> I took my first "serious" ride on my new Roadini this morning. 28 chilly, 
> brisk, Halloween miles! Short version is it is beautiful, awesome and 
> everything you expect from Rivendell. You may skip to the photos now if you 
> wish...
>
>
> I was notified that Leo Roadini had arrived at my local FedEx location on 
> Friday. Work was crazy and I didn't want to be hasty so I waited until 
> Saturday morning to pick it up. Out of the box everything was packed very 
> well. My daughter assisted me with unpacking. She complained that it was 
> heavy, but I didn't think so... Once unpacked I took a good look at the 
> frame. What a beauty! Rivendell's attention to detail is so high. The new 
> seat lug is a thing of beauty, right down err up to the little curly cue 
> point where the seat post goes in. Nicer than the simple point on my 
> Appaloosa. The decals and gorgeous grilver paint are executed so nicely. 
> The welds in the places where there are no lugs are uniform and clean. I 
> really like the "napkin holders" on the head tube also. I think they serve 
> a structural purpose and are aesthetically pleasing too.
>
>
> We had a lot of soccer and projects for school going on this weekend. I 
> was sure I would not get it built up over the weekend. Still, knowing I was 
> taking today off, I was hoping that maybe by Tuesday I could get it out for 
> at least a shake down ride. Well, as luck would have it, we got hit with a 
> pretty nasty east coast rain storm that was just a drencher all day Sunday. 
> All soccer was cancelled. Projects were done on Saturday. Besides cooking 
> and chasing cabin feverish kids around the house from time to time, I was 
> able to focus on the build.
>
>
> Again, as I went about the build I was continually impressed by Rivs level 
> of attention. Obviously they took it out of the box and went over it before 
> shipping it on to me. Even the water bottle screws had been taken out and 
> the threads lightly greased. I could also tell that a wheel set was very 
> lightly installed. Alignment check? I appreciate that they took the time to 
> do these things. I have had a couple of other frames from other companies 
> that I know were built in the same neighborhood in Taiwan, if not the same 
> factory. I never got the impression that they had left their boxes from the 
> time they were packed at the factory. Luckily there were no problems with 
> those frames, but as time goes on, all of these things that Riv does add up 
> and keep me coming back.
>
>
> The build went smoothly, most of the parts used were from my used parts 
> bin. Some of you may remember me trying to sell my Compass Rene Herse 
> crankset about a year ago. I'm glad nothing came of that! This is the 
> perfect frame for that crank. I also had the SKF bottom bracket, so I 
> pulled the one that came with the frame and installed those. The chainrings 
> are a little worn though and the cassette that I am using here has some 
> miles too. I recently installed a new chain on these used parts and was 
> experiencing some chain skip. To avoid that I put a new chain on my 
> Appaloosa and used the old chain here. It has maybe 1200 miles on it and it 
> worked perfectly. The drive train is quiet, smooth and there is no skip. 
> Maybe I can rehab this drivetrain a bit and get the most miles out of it by 
> cutting down on the miles that I put on the new chain on the Appaloosa 
> before I switch it over to the Roadini little-by-little over time?
>
>
> When Will called me to tell me that the frame was ready to ship, he also 
> mentioned that it was coming with a seat post. I was happy to hear this. I 
> thought Grant said that posts would not be included with these Roadini's. 
> The only 26.8mm post that I had on hand was a super long mtb post. I didn't 
> really want to use that one and was contemplating cutting it. Glad the 
> frame came with the post and I didn't have to deal with any of that. The 
> only new parts that I had to get were the wheels and the brake calipers. I 
> had the buttery Simplex Retrofriction shifters. I also had the cockpit: 48 
> Noodles, Shimano levers and Nitto 9cm stem. I have two pretty used tire 
> choices that I need to wear out before I get any new tires. I decided to 
> start with the Kojaks. They are worn a little square but definitely have 
> some life left in them. Nominally they are 35s, but they measure 32 on the 
> A23 rims with tubes. I also have a pair of Jack Brown Greens that I suspect 
> will measure out closer to their 33.3 size. I have 3 Brooks B17 saddles. 
> The newest one is on the Appaloosa and is staying there. My son is using 
> another on his Crosscheck. The oldest one by far is this one on this build. 
> Bought, 

[RBW] Re: A question about frame bags

[Bill Lindsay]

Tim talked about having seen frame bags and asked "Why?"  He then went on 
to provide some answers to the opposite question "Why not?" 

To me, the obvious answer "Why?" is that for any diamond frame bicycle, if 
you need to add a small amount of cargo weight to that bicycle, the 
absolute optimum place to put that weight is inside the main triangle of 
the frame.  It is the best place to add weight, period.  Best because A. it 
affects your stability on the bike the least.  B. It grows the bike zero. 
and C. The bike is its own rack.  There are numerous reasons why you might 
choose NOT to put weight in the best place possible.

1.  I have two water bottles and a pump in there, and there's no room for a 
bag
2.  I don't want to pay for a custom bag to fit my frame
3.  The bag that would fit my frame will only carry a small fraction of my 
total target cargo load, so I need someplace else anyway
4.  I think they are ugly, or not sufficiently traditional looking 
5.  The other places to add weight that are "not as good" are, in my 
experience, not that bad.  I don't mind carrying panniers and/or 
saddlebags, etc

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 7:01:56 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
>
> This is from the uninitiated. I've only seen them in photos, so no 
> experience at all. The question: Why? It seems like they couldn't hold much 
> (compared to saddle bags or panniers) without being stuffed to the point 
> where they would interfere with pedaling. 
>
> The upsides I see would be that they don't increase the width of the bike 
> like panniers do, and maybe the weight would not affect handling as much as 
> a saddlebag. 
>
> Just curious. 
>
>
> Tim "who has bikes with saddlebags, panniers, and handlebar bags" Kirch
>
>

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[RBW] Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

[Joe Bernard]

You're a brave man, Craig. I love box-lining, but I wouldn't date try it 
myself. Well done, sir!

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[RBW] Roadini build and first ride report!

[William R.]

I took my first "serious" ride on my new Roadini this morning. 28 chilly, 
brisk, Halloween miles! Short version is it is beautiful, awesome and 
everything you expect from Rivendell. You may skip to the photos now if you 
wish...


I was notified that Leo Roadini had arrived at my local FedEx location on 
Friday. Work was crazy and I didn't want to be hasty so I waited until 
Saturday morning to pick it up. Out of the box everything was packed very 
well. My daughter assisted me with unpacking. She complained that it was 
heavy, but I didn't think so... Once unpacked I took a good look at the 
frame. What a beauty! Rivendell's attention to detail is so high. The new 
seat lug is a thing of beauty, right down err up to the little curly cue 
point where the seat post goes in. Nicer than the simple point on my 
Appaloosa. The decals and gorgeous grilver paint are executed so nicely. 
The welds in the places where there are no lugs are uniform and clean. I 
really like the "napkin holders" on the head tube also. I think they serve 
a structural purpose and are aesthetically pleasing too.


We had a lot of soccer and projects for school going on this weekend. I was 
sure I would not get it built up over the weekend. Still, knowing I was 
taking today off, I was hoping that maybe by Tuesday I could get it out for 
at least a shake down ride. Well, as luck would have it, we got hit with a 
pretty nasty east coast rain storm that was just a drencher all day Sunday. 
All soccer was cancelled. Projects were done on Saturday. Besides cooking 
and chasing cabin feverish kids around the house from time to time, I was 
able to focus on the build.


Again, as I went about the build I was continually impressed by Rivs level 
of attention. Obviously they took it out of the box and went over it before 
shipping it on to me. Even the water bottle screws had been taken out and 
the threads lightly greased. I could also tell that a wheel set was very 
lightly installed. Alignment check? I appreciate that they took the time to 
do these things. I have had a couple of other frames from other companies 
that I know were built in the same neighborhood in Taiwan, if not the same 
factory. I never got the impression that they had left their boxes from the 
time they were packed at the factory. Luckily there were no problems with 
those frames, but as time goes on, all of these things that Riv does add up 
and keep me coming back.


The build went smoothly, most of the parts used were from my used parts 
bin. Some of you may remember me trying to sell my Compass Rene Herse 
crankset about a year ago. I'm glad nothing came of that! This is the 
perfect frame for that crank. I also had the SKF bottom bracket, so I 
pulled the one that came with the frame and installed those. The chainrings 
are a little worn though and the cassette that I am using here has some 
miles too. I recently installed a new chain on these used parts and was 
experiencing some chain skip. To avoid that I put a new chain on my 
Appaloosa and used the old chain here. It has maybe 1200 miles on it and it 
worked perfectly. The drive train is quiet, smooth and there is no skip. 
Maybe I can rehab this drivetrain a bit and get the most miles out of it by 
cutting down on the miles that I put on the new chain on the Appaloosa 
before I switch it over to the Roadini little-by-little over time?


When Will called me to tell me that the frame was ready to ship, he also 
mentioned that it was coming with a seat post. I was happy to hear this. I 
thought Grant said that posts would not be included with these Roadini's. 
The only 26.8mm post that I had on hand was a super long mtb post. I didn't 
really want to use that one and was contemplating cutting it. Glad the 
frame came with the post and I didn't have to deal with any of that. The 
only new parts that I had to get were the wheels and the brake calipers. I 
had the buttery Simplex Retrofriction shifters. I also had the cockpit: 48 
Noodles, Shimano levers and Nitto 9cm stem. I have two pretty used tire 
choices that I need to wear out before I get any new tires. I decided to 
start with the Kojaks. They are worn a little square but definitely have 
some life left in them. Nominally they are 35s, but they measure 32 on the 
A23 rims with tubes. I also have a pair of Jack Brown Greens that I suspect 
will measure out closer to their 33.3 size. I have 3 Brooks B17 saddles. 
The newest one is on the Appaloosa and is staying there. My son is using 
another on his Crosscheck. The oldest one by far is this one on this build. 
Bought, used and soaked multiple times since 2009, it was getting a little 
saggy, cracked at the rivets and long in the tooth. Boy, was I happy to see 
that big foam block protecting the fork tips in the box! I went about 
cutting and stuffing per Grants instructions and it feels great now! 
Chainstay protector and bar wrap are Newbaums green (the middle one I think 
in Rivs photos). Lets see, 

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Joe Bernard]

Ha! I don't think Riv is ever going to do discs, but if one of the youngsters 
talked Grant into it, it would be on a stout TIG'd model like the Clem. Which 
currently comes as a step-through with cantis, so I don't see the need to 
change brakes on the Cheviot. Chev is more of a road/country bike like the 
Hilsen and Hillborne, but with a dropped toptube (droptube). I think it's 
pretty cool the way it is. 

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[RBW] Re: A question about frame bags

[Jeremy Till]

A friend sewed me a frame bag that fits both my Clem and my Long Haul 
Trucker:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPJJ9jFjzKF/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVXIr7rBxqy/ 

For me, it is bar none the best bag I've owned for long day rides where you 
might want to access food and layers in the bag without stopping.  So easy 
to reach down, undo the zipper, and reach inside on the move.  I've never 
used a randonneur-style front bag, but I have a hard time imagining that 
it's easier with the handlebar in the way.  I haven't done any bikepacking 
or touring with it per se, but I have done a couple of credit-card style 
overnighters, and the frame bag plus a change of clothes in a medium 
Sackville ShopSack in a front Wald basket was the perfect amount of 
carrying capacity.  

I will say that I don't use it for commuting. My commute involves both 
taking the bag on and off the bike and shouldering the bike, and the 
ShopSack is a better bag for that application.  

On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 7:01:56 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
>
> This is from the uninitiated. I've only seen them in photos, so no 
> experience at all. The question: Why? It seems like they couldn't hold much 
> (compared to saddle bags or panniers) without being stuffed to the point 
> where they would interfere with pedaling. 
>
> The upsides I see would be that they don't increase the width of the bike 
> like panniers do, and maybe the weight would not affect handling as much as 
> a saddlebag. 
>
> Just curious. 
>
>
> Tim "who has bikes with saddlebags, panniers, and handlebar bags" Kirch
>
>

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[RBW] Clem Smith Jr with Alternate Handlebars? - Choco-moose

[Timothy Hurley]

I know this is an old thread, but does anyone have experience with bullmoose 
bars on a Clem? Those new silver ones are rad and I'm sorting out if I have 
enough parts on hand to build up a frame. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New (old) bike day? An Eroica bike

[Bill Lindsay]

I did remember to do the bathroom scale reckoning of the weight of my 
Univega Gran Premio.  

24.8lbs

Great news, the contemporary Gran Compe brake lever hoods from Velo Orange 
fit my vintage Gran Compe brake levers perfectly.  It's dialed.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 12:46:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Brian asked the weight of my 1983 Univega Gran Premio.
>
> I don't know for sure.  We don't have a bathroom scale at home, but there 
> is one at my office.  Maybe I'll ride it to work next week some time.  I'm 
> guessing it's in the 23-24 pound range.  
>
> Bill
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 12:07:03 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> I was curious if you knew what it weighed, as built?
>>
>> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 12:44:44 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark asked where I ordered a brown brake cable & housing kit:  
>>>
>>> I ordered it from Velo Orange. It should arrive today along with the 
>>> lever hoods 
>>>
>>> and also fender stays for the Hillborne 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: An Autumn Ride, With a Serendipitous Visit to an Outdoor Art Show

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Excellent photos, Mark! 

Cool bridge -- I've been over it a few times, but I never knew what the 
underside looked like. : )

Bob E
Cranford, NJ 

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Bill Lindsay]

I hope somebody follows Will's advice and builds a two-speed Cheviot.  Will 
recommended a 17T freewheel with a 40/26 in front and a Paul Melvin.  That 
would rock.  No derailleurs at all would be fine.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 5:09:12 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> That price is like found money.  Criminy.  Remember you get your 5% rebate 
> on that $1000 also, so it's really like $950.
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 3:51:00 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> I just got this email from Riv. New frames going for $1000 today; up $100 
>> a day til they're at full price Monday. Yes I have a perfectly wonderful 
>> Clem L, but I couldn't resist that price on a Roadini Blue Chev. 
>> Fortunately all my Clem stuff will transfer, so prepare for a Clem L frame 
>> for sale in a couple months! 
>> Check the site right now don't wait hurry go. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[lconley]

The Eno eccentric rear hub had to be positioned rear and down the get the 
rear Big Ben to clear. I had to use center-pull brakes to get the front Big 
Ben to clear. "Clear" means not touching. The rims are Velocity Atlas. I 
moved the parts to my V1 Roscoe Bubbe and sold the Sam frame (only Riv that 
I have parted with) - it actually has less clearance in the rear - I had to 
true the wheels/tires to the frame to compensate for slight variances in 
the tire. Clearance is a couple sheets of paper - need to keep the tire 
pressure down also. Do not try this at home.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 2:06:08 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I dislike double top tubes, but I like the rest of this Sam! Well, I'd 
> prefer discs or cantis. But the *rest* of it! 
>
> ENO?
>
> And are the Big Bens, as a very quick Google said, really 2" wide? On a 
> Sam?
>
> My earlier, 55 or 56 cm single tt Sam wouldn't take a 50 mm tire, so I 
> guess they've changed the design?
>
>
>> With Big Bens and centerpulls:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Patrick Moore]

I dislike double top tubes, but I like the rest of this Sam! Well, I'd
prefer discs or cantis. But the *rest* of it!

ENO?

And are the Big Bens, as a very quick Google said, really 2" wide? On a Sam?

My earlier, 55 or 56 cm single tt Sam wouldn't take a 50 mm tire, so I
guess they've changed the design?

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:20 AM, lconley  wrote:

> With Little Big Bens and sidepulls:
>
> 
>
> With Big Bens and centerpulls:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 5:14:26 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
>
>> Anyone build up a Sam as a single speed? My PBH is just about a 91, which
>> puts me on the edge. Anyone else with a 91 PBH riding a Sam? Which size do
>> you ride?
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Belopsky]

LOL!
On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 1:55:15 PM UTC-4, CoalTrain wrote:
>
> Next Cheviot run they need to add* disc brakes* or cantis. 

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[CoalTrain]

Next Cheviot run they need to add disc brakes or cantis. 

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[RBW] Re: October - A big riding month!

[Bill Lindsay]

APPROVE!  APPROVE!  a thousand times APPROVE!

I particularly enjoy the triumph of 'cleaning' a hill that you've never 
cleaned before.  That's freaking awesome.  That's on my 'next list' of 
cycling goals, as we transition in to Mountain Bike Racing Season.  There's 
a famous East Bay loop in Redwood Park and that loop includes a climb I've 
never cleaned, called Canyon Trail.  Our top racer, Matt, has told me he's 
going to make sure I achieve that goal.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 4:16:12 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kMCZ6f1Q0aSKA7s32
>
> October was a REALLY good month on the bike for me (good month all 
> around).  I don't have alot of spare time for dedicated weekday or weekend 
> riding for the sake of riding so I have to stretch my commutes out and I've 
> never been more successful at that than this past month.  Between work 
> travel and daddy duties I don't really have a meaningful 'average' monthly 
> mileage over the past 18 months or so but my 320 miles in October stands 90 
> miles over my previous (Sep of this year) high and 130 miles over any other 
> previous monthly high's. I'm using strava these days and my records only go 
> back to Feb '16 but since that time my riding has been pretty similar - 
> commutes and errands with a bit of singletrack here and there.
>
> The miles are one way to cut it but as I was thinking about making a post 
> I looked at the pictures from this month and was even more pleased.  For 
> one thing, the weather was splendid in DC this Oct and for another alot of 
> my rides explored some new-to-me routes and were in the company of good 
> friends.  Two solo coffee outside's - one in the rain, a ride up to the 
> National Cathedral for pre-work coffee with lister Erl, two explorations of 
> a new route home through Oxon Hill and across the Woodrow Wilson Bridge, an 
> early work departure singletrack-ramble through the Fort Circle Park Trail 
> in SE DC (who would have thought you'd startle deer in the woods within the 
> city limits!), a DMV car registration trip via bike... lots of good rides.
>
> I was definitely inspired by Bill's 10x200 self-challenge over the last 
> couple months and while I haven't made that kind of time in my schedule I'm 
> really satisfied with pushing some of my own personal bests within the 
> confines of the 'commute'.  I'm hoping to keep pushing the miles/hours in 
> the saddle into Nov and Dec.  Work travel, vacation and other parts of life 
> will definitely intervene but I'll keep making the most out of the rides I 
> get.  
>
> Riv content - 90% of the month has been on my Saluki pictured below which 
> has performed splendidly. I feel more comfortable and capable on the bike 
> than I ever have having gotten a lot of riding in over the past 3 months.  
> It's really dialed in but the new tubeless Compass EL BSP's put the road 
> feel over the top.  I'm at about 350 miles on the new tires and couldn't be 
> happier.  Picture below is approaching Oxon Hill with the new MGM Grand 
> Casino in National Harbor poking up over the trees.  I made it up the hill 
> without dismounting for LCG use for the first time on this day and while I 
> was still painfully slow I was absolutely thrilled with the achievement.
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

[Ryan Fleming]

Craig...that looks great! now when you put it back together , I'm sure 
there has to be some blue accessorizing or blue ano'd components or 
something to pick up that elegant box-lining.

Please show us the pictures when you have it all built up !

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 10:45:12 PM UTC-5, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> After 2 decades of beating the doo-doo out of my All Rounder I broke down 
> and got it repainted. Omar at Oasis Custom Cycles in Glendale (100 miles 
> away because Tucson doesn't have a frame painter) did an excellent better 
> than original job of doing the classic XO-1 burnt orange. And then I got 
> this bug up my derriere. My recessive anglophile genes started mutating 
> into dominance.I think my soul was invaded by some ancient Druidic spirit 
> and I decided to try box lining the frame (to the notes of Rule Britannia 
> pounding my psyche). Spent hours staring at the Bicycle Pin Striping 
> Flickr  https://www.flickr.com/groups/971940@N22/ and my Jack Taylor, and 
> Condor, and Holdsworth, and Mercians, and my Bates. So I grabbed a paint 
> pen from Hobby Lobby and went to town. Enjoy Rivophiles. 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> Craig in Tucson
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: A question about frame bags

[Patrick Moore]

I've never had any problem pushing a bike with rear panniers -- Ortieb
Roller Packers and Packer Pluses, or whatever the 2 full sized models are;
but my bikes have long stays, and perhaps because of my, admittedly, cool
pushing method, holding the bike with left hand at the stem/bar junction --
even up hills. That said, I have found them annoying even in sparse brush,
and in such an environment, a large frame bag would seem (I've not used a
large one) preferable.

I do use a medium Revelate frame bag to hold my kit (including bulky
mountain bike tube and 4 oz bottle of Orange Seal, as well as one of the
fatter Lezyne minipumps; but especially to carry the bulky switch and
capacitor, along with bundled cables, for the K-Lite. The bag has room left
over from all this stuff to carry, say, a sandwich and a tightly rolled up,
lightweight vest.

I like this better than the 2 top tube bags I used before -- more room, but
interferes less with the rider. The medium still allows use of both
inside-triangle bottle cages.

OTOH, I like panniers because it is much easier to put them on and take
them off; I adjust carrying capacity to the load envisioned.

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[RBW] Re: OT: New Bike Shed Day

[Pondero]

Nicely done!  Because it sounds like it meets your needs so perfectly, I'll 
bet you get many years of enjoyment out of those!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Goofy question about silver shifters

[nash5510]

Oh I forgot to say thank you Patrick for your suggestion.  Very good 
suggestion.  

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[RandoNate]

Hey that's my bike!  Thanks again lconley for one of my best all time 
purchases!  I do kinda wish it had cantis though...

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[RBW] Re: October - A big riding month!

[Pondero]

Well done, Tony!  I thought I saw a foreshadowing sparkle in your eye when 
I was out there in September.  Grabbing these moments in an appropriate 
balance, I believe, helps make for better family engagement when it 
counts.  Who knows?  Maybe there will be a decent weather window when I'm 
out there again in February, and I can experience some of your new found 
treasure destinations.  We can hope...

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Goofy question about silver shifters

[Patrick Moore]

I thought that too, which is why I suggested the perhaps far fetched
solution of getting rid of the D ring screws and replacing them with
allen-head screws.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 7:34 AM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> Patrick, I think he's talking about the D-rings rattling on the adjustment
> screws, not the screws themselves rattling loose (though that's a common
> problem).
>
> Nash-- I suggest some insulating material on the D-rings:
>
>- Plasti-dip?
>- Maybe you could wedge a leather washer around the adjustment screw,
>but under the D-ring?
>- Wrapping the D-rings in twine would be tricky work, but very Rivvish.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> This suggestion might be far fetched, but just in case: when I was using
>> Silvers mounted on bar end pods, and when the bolts (I assume you meant
>> "bolts" and not "nuts") with the rings kept loosening, as they do, I
>> replaced them with allen head bolts and kept them snug with blue Loctite.
>>
>> In short, quite them by getting rid of them/
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:14 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a pair of silver shifters set up as thumbies on a set of sunrace
>>> mounts with the 'Roman Mod' done.  They are very nice and I like them but
>>> the little metal rings on the adjuster nuts rattle and drive me a little
>>> nuts.
>>>
>>> Any tips on how to quiet them down?
>>> Thanks
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[RBW] Bicycle Belle Ding Ding

[LeahFoy]

Hi All,

I read the list all the time but haven't said much as of late - but I mean to! 
I recently got back from Ireland and I even took photos of interesting bikes as 
seen on the streets there - while my husband rolled his eyes in the background 
- because I knew you'd care (my ONLY biking friends are on this list).

I've been out here, riding the wheels off TBBITW (The Best Bike in the World, 
if you don't know) and loving it. School is in full swing and we remain the 
only members of the Bicycle Bus. I've somehow managed to add a VIOLIN to the 
already obnoxious load on TBBITW, and still make it up Death Hill. I put my 
pride aside last month and got my older son a rack and Wald from Rivendell so 
he can at least carry his own laptop and jacket. Even just that much off my 
bike makes a difference.  More on that later. 

I have several photos to share but I read somewhere that it is frowned upon to 
put them directly onto the list email. With LTE and high speed internet, is 
this still the rule? I could be obedient and use a Flickr link, but it won't be 
nearly as fun without words. Someone on here knows the solution. 
Thanks!
Leah

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[RBW] Re: Grant in PDX 10/28

[Brendan McD]

I was there as well. I don't think John made it very far down his list of 
pre-submitted questions, as many people from the audience had things to 
ask.  I was impressed by the quality of the questions, and Grant's 
willingness to be open about everything from manufacture and geometry 
theories to his future plans for products and the company. He spoke very 
highly of the Taiwan factories and the bikes Rivendell receives from them, 
noting especially that they all arrive exactly alike, with nothing out of 
spec.

I don't think it was recorded, unfortunately. 

Paul - 
The upcoming Silver component(s) will/may be a replacement for the Silver 
shifter, based on a Suntour thumbie (his previous project that was scrapped 
and now may be back on track); and MAYBE a brake inspired by the now 
discontinued CX70 (for fear the CX50 will be next on Shimano's chopping 
block).
The "vehicle" is something sort of like the Kickbike in particular I 
believe. A relatetively large wheeled, large tired, push scooter. 

I was also very excited to win a hatchet! 

Brendan McD
Portland, OR

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[RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Clayton.sf]

I run mine with a 11-36t (10 speed)  in the back with a 38t ring up front 
(1x setup). Gets me up most hills with a load around here. I have a 110 bcd 
crank on it, but if I had something with a granny option I would add that 
small ring to it without the front derailer so I'd have a bail out option 
just in case.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA




On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 8:19:19 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The 12-36 with a long cage rear derailer is a good start. Right now you're 
> running the small ring and rear cassette from a race bike, which is a total 
> waste on that lovely frame. See how you're doing with the expanded 
> 1x8-or-9, then you can always change the cranks and add the front derailer 
> back later if you need 2 or 3 rings up front. 

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[RBW] Re: FS Rivendell Silver Shifters

[lum gim fong]

So the original SS1 is still dying out?

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[RBW] Goofy question about silver shifters

[lum gim fong]

Are these SS1 or SS2?

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[RBW] Goofy question about silver shifters

[nash5510]

Yes I do indeed mean the d rings on the adjustment bolts.  I think deadening 
them may be tge simplest solution.  Perhaps a wrap of bar tape or something 
similar will do the trick.  
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[RBW] Re: PSA: 2 Rivendells in Boston area

[Paul Choi]

The Cheviot has been sold. 

On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 2:27:09 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Are these anyones?
>
>  https://boston.craigslist.org/search/bmw/bid?query=rivendell
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Philip Kim]

wow, thanks for pointing this out to me. newsletter was buried in my inbox.

that cheviot color looks awesome, and i do love the sage color. it will 
look nice on the cheviot.

i  would love a canti sam, but too many bikes not enough funds. if the 
cheviot ever had cantis, i don't know if i could resist...

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 6:51:00 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I just got this email from Riv. New frames going for $1000 today; up $100 
> a day til they're at full price Monday. Yes I have a perfectly wonderful 
> Clem L, but I couldn't resist that price on a Roadini Blue Chev. 
> Fortunately all my Clem stuff will transfer, so prepare for a Clem L frame 
> for sale in a couple months! 
> Check the site right now don't wait hurry go. 

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[RBW] Re: FS Rivendell Silver Shifters

[Philip Kim]

thanks grant for clarifying. 

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 11:07:15 AM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> the current shifter mold is dying (I'm told), and we were working on a new 
> one. that project seemed permanently stalled--I'd given up, as anybody  
> here'd tell you--but there is now some hope.  it'll  be a new shape & mold.
>
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 5:44:30 AM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> Bought a ton of these when Riv said they would no longer be in stock, but 
>> that seems to have changed.
>>
>> New in box silver shifters.
>>
>> $45 shipped.
>>
>> pic:
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128095434@N02/37333146914/in/dateposted-public/
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[RBW] Re: FS Rivendell Silver Shifters

[Grant @ Rivendell]

the current shifter mold is dying (I'm told), and we were working on a new 
one. that project seemed permanently stalled--I'd given up, as anybody  
here'd tell you--but there is now some hope.  it'll  be a new shape & mold.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 5:44:30 AM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Bought a ton of these when Riv said they would no longer be in stock, but 
> that seems to have changed.
>
> New in box silver shifters.
>
> $45 shipped.
>
> pic:
>
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> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128095434@N02/37333146914/in/dateposted-public/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Lee Legrand]

Nice pics Phil. I especially like the one where you riding in the rain.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Philip Kim  wrote:

> this looks like a lot of fun!
>
> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 10:14:59 PM UTC-4, Antone Könst wrote:
>>
>> 718 Cycles  in Brooklyn just led a
>> great overnight 'Micro-tour' to Beartown Mountain Park, MA, which I did on
>> my Cheviot.  It was an s240 if you don't count the 3 hours each way on the
>> train and the 40 minute ride to Grand Central.  Total was about 40 miles
>> each way, so it was more fun than work but I'm not complaining about that.
>>
>> The ride was wonderful, really really fun, with the leaves changing, and
>> accidentally adventurous because I brought a friend who I thought had more
>> riding experience (he'd never changed gears and is developing some serious
>> scar tissue on his chin after attempting a downtube shift while going down
>> a hill pretty fast).The way up was blue skies and we got some surprise
>> trail riding in for a number of miles, which made my Barlow Pass tires
>> worth the $.  On the way home we had pouring rain from 5:30 am straight
>> through, which was actually more fun than on the way up - and it was also
>> pretty much down-hill for ~40 miles.  The rain made me appreciate my
>> Carradice bags, which I hung on a Jandd front (they are rear panniers), and
>> made me appreciate a little less my Sackville Shop sack which became a very
>> useful bucket for my kit to float in, despite folding the zipper down.  I
>> know, it's a California bag, but it was a bucket in NY, CT, and MA this
>> morning :).  I still love it.
>> My Chev was incredible, it was super stable down hills fast (my Paul
>> Racers were not so useful at the bottom of these hills, in the rain), and
>> my fendered tail light and Dlux front light were increidbly useful with the
>> dynamo hub.
>>
>> *My question for you, after the trip* is *how do I add a granny gear?*
>> Right now I'm 1x8 with 34 in front and 11-26 in back, and the steeper hills
>> killed me, especially because I was carrying my friend's gear too.  Do I
>> get a new 12-36 cassette and a Deore XT, or do I get a wide/low crankset
>> and put my front derailleur back on?   I honestly have no idea, I'm new to
>> thinking about the drivetrain creatively.  The randonneuring guys with us
>> seemed very happy with their 3 chainrings, and the people on their 1x9 or
>> 10 set ups also seemed happy, the Rolhoff people didn't recommend it.  So
>> I'm at a loss, please advise!
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[RBW] Re: Grant in PDX 10/28

[Paul Choi]

Mike - can you talk in more detail about these two topics?

The next truly wonderful Silver product that Grant is really excited about.
and what vehicle Grant thinks is actually better and more fun than a 
bicycle for some short trips.

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 8:32:30 PM UTC-7, velomann wrote:
>
> Yes - I was there.
> Wide-ranging conversation that occasionally even touched on bicycles ;-)
> John moderated. They even stopped by Blue Moon cameras before to pick up a 
> darkroom timer in a partially successful attempt to keep Grant concise 
> allow a wide selection of topics. Originally planned on 1 hour and went 
> over 2. I wasn't bored.
> Among topics (I'll for sure forget stuff)
> Livable wages & potential scenarios for Rivendell's future with & without 
> Grant, 
> The high quality of brazing in Taiwan and the finer points of the awesome 
> dropouts on the Roadini.
> Who really knows more about Bob Dylan's lyrics than the Dylanologists..
> Jan Heine, tires, sidewall deflection, and the S word.
> The next truly wonderful Silver product that Grant is really excited about.
> and what vehicle Grant thinks is actually better and more fun than a 
> bicycle for some short trips.
>
> Plus raffles (I won an Opinel knife)
> Grant brought up some of the wonderfully beausaged and freshly sharpened 
> display axes and hatchets from the shuttered Bike Book & Hatchet. They were 
> for sale for unbeatable prices and many sold. I bought one.
> There was beer and other beverages, paleo and non snacks, and freshly 
> grilled Elk that was yummy.
> It was as entertaining as I hoped.
>
> Mike M
>
> On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 5:50:44 PM UTC-7, Irreguleur wrote:
>>
>> Did any one from the group make it out? If so, do you know if the Q was 
>> recorded in any way? I’d love to hear what people were curious about.
>
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Surlyprof]

Bob,

I have an orange canti-Sam and ride both trails and roads.  I do switch 
wheelsets often lighter Synergies with Barlow Pass ELs for roads and A719s with 
Smart Sams for trails.  The Sam handles both pretty well.  I'd thought about 
trading to a Joe when they first came out for the wider tire clearance but 
liked the Sam better on roads.  I think I'd prefer the Joe on trails and for 
bike packing (although Sam handles it).  If I'd been debating it at purchase, 
it would have been a tough decision.  Since I would have had to sell the Sam to 
buy the Joe, I stayed happy with what I had.

One thing I found is the cx50 brakes are a must on a canti bike if you change 
wheels often.  Will suggested that and it's been a great purchase.

John

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

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I'm not one for single speeds but THAT is a beautiful Sam!

John

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Re: [RBW] Goofy question about silver shifters

[Tim Gavin]

Patrick, I think he's talking about the D-rings rattling on the adjustment
screws, not the screws themselves rattling loose (though that's a common
problem).

Nash-- I suggest some insulating material on the D-rings:

   - Plasti-dip?
   - Maybe you could wedge a leather washer around the adjustment screw,
   but under the D-ring?
   - Wrapping the D-rings in twine would be tricky work, but very Rivvish.


On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:47 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> This suggestion might be far fetched, but just in case: when I was using
> Silvers mounted on bar end pods, and when the bolts (I assume you meant
> "bolts" and not "nuts") with the rings kept loosening, as they do, I
> replaced them with allen head bolts and kept them snug with blue Loctite.
>
> In short, quite them by getting rid of them/
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:14 PM,  wrote:
>
>> I have a pair of silver shifters set up as thumbies on a set of sunrace
>> mounts with the 'Roman Mod' done.  They are very nice and I like them but
>> the little metal rings on the adjuster nuts rattle and drive me a little
>> nuts.
>>
>> Any tips on how to quiet them down?
>> Thanks
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[RBW] Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

[WETH]

Wow! That's is beautiful.  Well done and ready for another 20 years!

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Re: [RBW] Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

[Steven Sweedler]

Craig, beautiful job, the box lining is a nice nod to the Taylors, great
color, a favorite frameset. Steve
Plymouth, NH

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 11:45 PM Craig Montgomery 
wrote:

> After 2 decades of beating the doo-doo out of my All Rounder I broke down
> and got it repainted. Omar at Oasis Custom Cycles in Glendale (100 miles
> away because Tucson doesn't have a frame painter) did an excellent better
> than original job of doing the classic XO-1 burnt orange. And then I got
> this bug up my derriere. My recessive anglophile genes started mutating
> into dominance.I think my soul was invaded by some ancient Druidic spirit
> and I decided to try box lining the frame (to the notes of Rule Britannia
> pounding my psyche). Spent hours staring at the Bicycle Pin Striping
> Flickr  https://www.flickr.com/groups/971940@N22/ and my Jack Taylor, and
> Condor, and Holdsworth, and Mercians, and my Bates. So I grabbed a paint
> pen from Hobby Lobby and went to town. Enjoy Rivophiles.
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[RBW] Re: Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wow. Kudos to both Omar and you, and happy new old bike day!

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 8:45:12 PM UTC-7, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> After 2 decades of beating the doo-doo out of my All Rounder I broke down 
> and got it repainted. Omar at Oasis Custom Cycles in Glendale (100 miles 
> away because Tucson doesn't have a frame painter) did an excellent better 
> than original job of doing the classic XO-1 burnt orange. And then I got 
> this bug up my derriere. My recessive anglophile genes started mutating 
> into dominance.I think my soul was invaded by some ancient Druidic spirit 
> and I decided to try box lining the frame (to the notes of Rule Britannia 
> pounding my psyche). Spent hours staring at the Bicycle Pin Striping 
> Flickr  https://www.flickr.com/groups/971940@N22/ and my Jack Taylor, and 
> Condor, and Holdsworth, and Mercians, and my Bates. So I grabbed a paint 
> pen from Hobby Lobby and went to town. Enjoy Rivophiles. 
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[RBW] Re: Oh Boy Got the '96 All Rounder Repainted

[Matt B.]

Fabulous!  Well done sir.  I'm curious about the fork- is it custom?  
Danged nice AR you have there man.


On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 11:45:12 PM UTC-4, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> After 2 decades of beating the doo-doo out of my All Rounder I broke down 
> and got it repainted. Omar at Oasis Custom Cycles in Glendale (100 miles 
> away because Tucson doesn't have a frame painter) did an excellent better 
> than original job of doing the classic XO-1 burnt orange. And then I got 
> this bug up my derriere. My recessive anglophile genes started mutating 
> into dominance.I think my soul was invaded by some ancient Druidic spirit 
> and I decided to try box lining the frame (to the notes of Rule Britannia 
> pounding my psyche). Spent hours staring at the Bicycle Pin Striping 
> Flickr  https://www.flickr.com/groups/971940@N22/ and my Jack Taylor, and 
> Condor, and Holdsworth, and Mercians, and my Bates. So I grabbed a paint 
> pen from Hobby Lobby and went to town. Enjoy Rivophiles. 
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> Craig in Tucson
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[RBW] October - A big riding month!

[WETH]

Tony,
Great photos and congrats on a great month of riding.  I am happy to have 
played a small part in your adventures.
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Philip Kim]

this looks like a lot of fun!

On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 10:14:59 PM UTC-4, Antone Könst wrote:
>
> 718 Cycles  in Brooklyn just led a 
> great overnight 'Micro-tour' to Beartown Mountain Park, MA, which I did on 
> my Cheviot.  It was an s240 if you don't count the 3 hours each way on the 
> train and the 40 minute ride to Grand Central.  Total was about 40 miles 
> each way, so it was more fun than work but I'm not complaining about that. 
>
> The ride was wonderful, really really fun, with the leaves changing, and 
> accidentally adventurous because I brought a friend who I thought had more 
> riding experience (he'd never changed gears and is developing some serious 
> scar tissue on his chin after attempting a downtube shift while going down 
> a hill pretty fast).The way up was blue skies and we got some surprise 
> trail riding in for a number of miles, which made my Barlow Pass tires 
> worth the $.  On the way home we had pouring rain from 5:30 am straight 
> through, which was actually more fun than on the way up - and it was also 
> pretty much down-hill for ~40 miles.  The rain made me appreciate my 
> Carradice bags, which I hung on a Jandd front (they are rear panniers), and 
> made me appreciate a little less my Sackville Shop sack which became a very 
> useful bucket for my kit to float in, despite folding the zipper down.  I 
> know, it's a California bag, but it was a bucket in NY, CT, and MA this 
> morning :).  I still love it. 
> My Chev was incredible, it was super stable down hills fast (my Paul 
> Racers were not so useful at the bottom of these hills, in the rain), and 
> my fendered tail light and Dlux front light were increidbly useful with the 
> dynamo hub.  
>
> *My question for you, after the trip* is *how do I add a granny gear?*  
> Right now I'm 1x8 with 34 in front and 11-26 in back, and the steeper hills 
> killed me, especially because I was carrying my friend's gear too.  Do I 
> get a new 12-36 cassette and a Deore XT, or do I get a wide/low crankset 
> and put my front derailleur back on?   I honestly have no idea, I'm new to 
> thinking about the drivetrain creatively.  The randonneuring guys with us 
> seemed very happy with their 3 chainrings, and the people on their 1x9 or 
> 10 set ups also seemed happy, the Rolhoff people didn't recommend it.  So 
> I'm at a loss, please advise!
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[RBW] FS Rivendell Silver Shifters

[Philip Kim]

Bought a ton of these when Riv said they would no longer be in stock, but 
that seems to have changed.

New in box silver shifters.

$45 shipped.

pic:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/128095434@N02/37333146914/in/dateposted-public/

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[RBW] FS: Sugino Triple chainring 46/36/26

[Philip Kim]

brand new sugino triple chainrings came off my sugino XD600 triple cranks. 
46/36/26.

$45 shipped.

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Re: [RBW] Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Philip Kim]

If anyone is looking, I have a 610mm MAP bars in silver. They were a bit 
too wide for my build. Can trade for a used 570mm in silver, or can sell 
for $27 plus shipping from 22204

picture 1 

picture 2 

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Re: [RBW] Re: October - A big riding month!

[Tony DeFilippo]

Hi Doug thanks!  It is a bell, a cheap dimension 'woodpecker bell'. Neat
looking and my wife likes it but not a great performer from a bell
perspective.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 8:18 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> Thanks for sharing Tony. I enjoyed the photos. In the second photos of
> your Clementine, what is mounted on the left side of the handlebar? It
> seems to be a bell but looks wooden.
> Doug
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 7:16:12 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kMCZ6f1Q0aSKA7s32
>>
>> October was a REALLY good month on the bike for me (good month all
>> around).  I don't have alot of spare time for dedicated weekday or weekend
>> riding for the sake of riding so I have to stretch my commutes out and I've
>> never been more successful at that than this past month.  Between work
>> travel and daddy duties I don't really have a meaningful 'average' monthly
>> mileage over the past 18 months or so but my 320 miles in October stands 90
>> miles over my previous (Sep of this year) high and 130 miles over any other
>> previous monthly high's. I'm using strava these days and my records only go
>> back to Feb '16 but since that time my riding has been pretty similar -
>> commutes and errands with a bit of singletrack here and there.
>>
>> The miles are one way to cut it but as I was thinking about making a post
>> I looked at the pictures from this month and was even more pleased.  For
>> one thing, the weather was splendid in DC this Oct and for another alot of
>> my rides explored some new-to-me routes and were in the company of good
>> friends.  Two solo coffee outside's - one in the rain, a ride up to the
>> National Cathedral for pre-work coffee with lister Erl, two explorations of
>> a new route home through Oxon Hill and across the Woodrow Wilson Bridge, an
>> early work departure singletrack-ramble through the Fort Circle Park Trail
>> in SE DC (who would have thought you'd startle deer in the woods within the
>> city limits!), a DMV car registration trip via bike... lots of good rides.
>>
>> I was definitely inspired by Bill's 10x200 self-challenge over the last
>> couple months and while I haven't made that kind of time in my schedule I'm
>> really satisfied with pushing some of my own personal bests within the
>> confines of the 'commute'.  I'm hoping to keep pushing the miles/hours in
>> the saddle into Nov and Dec.  Work travel, vacation and other parts of life
>> will definitely intervene but I'll keep making the most out of the rides I
>> get.
>>
>> Riv content - 90% of the month has been on my Saluki pictured below which
>> has performed splendidly. I feel more comfortable and capable on the bike
>> than I ever have having gotten a lot of riding in over the past 3 months.
>> It's really dialed in but the new tubeless Compass EL BSP's put the road
>> feel over the top.  I'm at about 350 miles on the new tires and couldn't be
>> happier.  Picture below is approaching Oxon Hill with the new MGM Grand
>> Casino in National Harbor poking up over the trees.  I made it up the hill
>> without dismounting for LCG use for the first time on this day and while I
>> was still painfully slow I was absolutely thrilled with the achievement.
>>
>>
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Kainalu V.]

What size cranks do you roll?
-Kai 
Up the way

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[RBW] Re: October - A big riding month!

[Doug H.]

Thanks for sharing Tony. I enjoyed the photos. In the second photos of your 
Clementine, what is mounted on the left side of the handlebar? It seems to 
be a bell but looks wooden.
Doug

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 7:16:12 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kMCZ6f1Q0aSKA7s32
>
> October was a REALLY good month on the bike for me (good month all 
> around).  I don't have alot of spare time for dedicated weekday or weekend 
> riding for the sake of riding so I have to stretch my commutes out and I've 
> never been more successful at that than this past month.  Between work 
> travel and daddy duties I don't really have a meaningful 'average' monthly 
> mileage over the past 18 months or so but my 320 miles in October stands 90 
> miles over my previous (Sep of this year) high and 130 miles over any other 
> previous monthly high's. I'm using strava these days and my records only go 
> back to Feb '16 but since that time my riding has been pretty similar - 
> commutes and errands with a bit of singletrack here and there.
>
> The miles are one way to cut it but as I was thinking about making a post 
> I looked at the pictures from this month and was even more pleased.  For 
> one thing, the weather was splendid in DC this Oct and for another alot of 
> my rides explored some new-to-me routes and were in the company of good 
> friends.  Two solo coffee outside's - one in the rain, a ride up to the 
> National Cathedral for pre-work coffee with lister Erl, two explorations of 
> a new route home through Oxon Hill and across the Woodrow Wilson Bridge, an 
> early work departure singletrack-ramble through the Fort Circle Park Trail 
> in SE DC (who would have thought you'd startle deer in the woods within the 
> city limits!), a DMV car registration trip via bike... lots of good rides.
>
> I was definitely inspired by Bill's 10x200 self-challenge over the last 
> couple months and while I haven't made that kind of time in my schedule I'm 
> really satisfied with pushing some of my own personal bests within the 
> confines of the 'commute'.  I'm hoping to keep pushing the miles/hours in 
> the saddle into Nov and Dec.  Work travel, vacation and other parts of life 
> will definitely intervene but I'll keep making the most out of the rides I 
> get.  
>
> Riv content - 90% of the month has been on my Saluki pictured below which 
> has performed splendidly. I feel more comfortable and capable on the bike 
> than I ever have having gotten a lot of riding in over the past 3 months.  
> It's really dialed in but the new tubeless Compass EL BSP's put the road 
> feel over the top.  I'm at about 350 miles on the new tires and couldn't be 
> happier.  Picture below is approaching Oxon Hill with the new MGM Grand 
> Casino in National Harbor poking up over the trees.  I made it up the hill 
> without dismounting for LCG use for the first time on this day and while I 
> was still painfully slow I was absolutely thrilled with the achievement.
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Found Stolen Riv in LA - Help me find the owner!

[Kainalu V.]

I don't think anyone's asked, and maybe it's a most terrible question, but no, 
it's not, because maybe the goddess placed it in your path, but does it fit 
you?? I hope so, and not just because it doesn't fit me...
-Kai
BK NY

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[RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Antone Könst]

It's the only 718 ride I've done, so I'm no expert, but it was really 
great.  Joe was prepared but laid back, the group was convivial and 
diverse, and there was no pressure to go fast or slow.   When my friend 
took a spill, everyone had bandaids for him and no-one had unwanted advice, 
that warmed my heart.   And many people brought food and beer to share.  So 
if it's any indication of a normal ride with them I'd say do it! 

Also going to take Joe's advice and get a 12-36 and XT derailer in the 
short term, and save up for a beautiful new double crankset in the long 
term. 





On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 9:09:05 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
>
> Yeah, I’d also like to know more about the vibe of those rides. They sound 
> like fun, but there’s nothing worse than camping with people with different 
> expectations than you. 
>
> And man, I hear ya on the “all good rides are 45 minute train rides away” 
> thing. Makes it much harder to just sneak in a ride.

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[RBW] Re: Grant in PDX 10/28

[Christopher Cote]

Was this recorded, and available online somewhere? Sounds like a lot of fun. 
I'd love to hear it.

Chris

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[RBW] October - A big riding month!

[Tony DeFilippo]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kMCZ6f1Q0aSKA7s32

October was a REALLY good month on the bike for me (good month all 
around).  I don't have alot of spare time for dedicated weekday or weekend 
riding for the sake of riding so I have to stretch my commutes out and I've 
never been more successful at that than this past month.  Between work 
travel and daddy duties I don't really have a meaningful 'average' monthly 
mileage over the past 18 months or so but my 320 miles in October stands 90 
miles over my previous (Sep of this year) high and 130 miles over any other 
previous monthly high's. I'm using strava these days and my records only go 
back to Feb '16 but since that time my riding has been pretty similar - 
commutes and errands with a bit of singletrack here and there.

The miles are one way to cut it but as I was thinking about making a post I 
looked at the pictures from this month and was even more pleased.  For one 
thing, the weather was splendid in DC this Oct and for another alot of my 
rides explored some new-to-me routes and were in the company of good 
friends.  Two solo coffee outside's - one in the rain, a ride up to the 
National Cathedral for pre-work coffee with lister Erl, two explorations of 
a new route home through Oxon Hill and across the Woodrow Wilson Bridge, an 
early work departure singletrack-ramble through the Fort Circle Park Trail 
in SE DC (who would have thought you'd startle deer in the woods within the 
city limits!), a DMV car registration trip via bike... lots of good rides.

I was definitely inspired by Bill's 10x200 self-challenge over the last 
couple months and while I haven't made that kind of time in my schedule I'm 
really satisfied with pushing some of my own personal bests within the 
confines of the 'commute'.  I'm hoping to keep pushing the miles/hours in 
the saddle into Nov and Dec.  Work travel, vacation and other parts of life 
will definitely intervene but I'll keep making the most out of the rides I 
get.  

Riv content - 90% of the month has been on my Saluki pictured below which 
has performed splendidly. I feel more comfortable and capable on the bike 
than I ever have having gotten a lot of riding in over the past 3 months.  
It's really dialed in but the new tubeless Compass EL BSP's put the road 
feel over the top.  I'm at about 350 miles on the new tires and couldn't be 
happier.  Picture below is approaching Oxon Hill with the new MGM Grand 
Casino in National Harbor poking up over the trees.  I made it up the hill 
without dismounting for LCG use for the first time on this day and while I 
was still painfully slow I was absolutely thrilled with the achievement.



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Re: [RBW] OT: New Bike Shed Day

[Tony DeFilippo]

Erl those sheds are a truly elegant looking solution, I love the clamshell 
opening in particular.  Almost evokes the back to the future delorean gull wing 
doors!

It also looks like you might have room for an extra bike!  

I've actually been thinking about some out of garage storage options for a 
couple of my bikes as my wife and I are tackling a wooden boat kit build 
(stitch and glue) this winter and there will be lots of sanding dust spread all 
over.  Do these are good inspiration to consider.

Congrats on the new sheds!

Tony

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