Re: [RBW] Re: Binder bolt and nut specs?

[lum gim fong]

Ace hardware near moi has an huge selection of bolts.

Harder to find are the washers that fit the bolt AND the seatcluster hole.

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[RBW] Re: The RBW Website has a new look...

[lum gim fong]

Coupla year ago i tried uploadin me bleriot but looks like the page is de-funct.

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Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 14 topics

[Bill Solomon]

My gawd, Scott! What bike have you with a better frame than the Ram, pray
tell? There really aren't that many Toyo frames in existence are there?

Just teasing, sorta. I bought an orange Ram from a fellow Georgia iBob last
June. I've loved the color for ages and blessed to now own one (size 54). I
have a bunch of bikes and the Ram on 38 mm wide tires is truly sublime,
blowing away the Vitus, Bridgestone, Trek, Bianchi, Cannondale and Klein in
the stable.

True there is no easy match for the metallic pearl orange paint, short of
going to a local custom car/motorcycle painter that may/may not be painting
with a similar color. They'll fill a 2 ounce bottle while cleaning out the
sprayer for a next to nothing price.

However, within just a few miles of where I live exists every premium car
dealer available in the US. But, orange isn't too common in the proper
shade (Porsche signal orange which isn't metallic, Corvette atomic orange
with is too bronzy, Lotus looks like pumpkin). Lamborghini has a color that
is pretty darn close as I see it from the road. The color is available on
the Aventador and called "arancio atlas orange metallic". There is a color
code that a couple of paint places offer in touch-up quantities. When the
weather moderates a bit, I'm going to ride the Ram over to the dealer to
compare paints. Touch-up is a process to get it right so that the old paint
blends with the new paint. Small scratches will blend in well thanks to the
light reflectivity of a bright metallic over a light grey primer, finished
with clear coat.

If only Mr. Bell had given the paint formula to Riv for future reference!

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA where all the orange leaves are now on the wet ground



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>Update
>
> 3-Speed MTBing Resources?
> 
> Thomas McCause : Nov 08 07:34AM -0800
>
> I have a
> dingle speed that works wonderfully...
> it does require a "manual shift"
>
> another idea, though somewhat more technical would be
>
> http://blog.jonesbikes.com/6-speed-cassettes/
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:50:46 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
> nash5...@gmail.com: Nov 08 11:00AM -0800
>
> I remember seeing a schlumpf drive at my old shop. Kinda cool but too
> weird for me. I currently have my cross check setup as a 2 x 9 with no
> front der. I didn't have the correct shim so I left the der off and I may
> just leave it that way. Bif ring for commuting, then nudge the chain over
> with toe for hills or off road. One less cable ftw.
>
> Nash
> dougP : Nov 08 12:03PM -0800
>
> Is anyone aware of a 3 speed hub that fits Rivendell's drop out spacing?
> IIRC ithat's usually 132.5 on geared bikes. My personal experience with
> converting a steel geared bike to 3 speed required finding an axle for 126
> mm OLD as the standard for the old S-As was 120 mm.
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 3:10:28 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> Eric Norris : Nov 08 12:06PM -0800
>
> Sturmey Archer hubs are spaced at 120mm, but they come with spacers that
> 

[RBW] Re: Anyone know about cycling Death Valley

[Jon Spangler]

Tim,

Gorgeous country, some of my favorite ever.

 Probably dry as a bone most of the time and it could also be hot, so LOTS 
of water and hydration awareness is required.
The weather in the desert can change in an instant and it is unforgiving 
territory.

(Just because it is mild now does not mean you will have mild weather all 
during your trip.) ;-)

You may also get snowed on and/or have below-freezing temps this time of 
year. And it does rain in Death Valley, too: if it does,
make sure you are out of and away from washes, gullies, canyon bottoms, 
etc.. top avoid flash floods.

It can also be windy as hell, so be prepared and ALWAYS guy out your tent. 
(Prepare for windy, cold, winter weather but be
ready to strip and stay cool if it heats up.

Check the weather forecasts and the long-range predictions as your 
departure date approaches:
http://www.weather.gov/forecastmaps

And call the park headquarters for the latest in weather forecast, expected 
conditions, and road conditions as you plan your trip.

Oh, and be prepared to have USAF jets overhead almost every day...

Enjoy!

Jon Spangler
Alameda, CA




On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:39:08 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>
> I'll be taking the Hunqapillar, Roadeo and either the Hilsen or MAP out 
> there for some camping and cycling here in the next couple of weeks camping 
> and doing a lot of riding. Any advice?

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[RBW] WTB: 26" Rivvy Dynamo Wheelset

[adam leibow]

Hi - please let me know if you have something that fits this description. I 
am looking for a dynamo wheelset that will work with my girlfriend's 
Atlantis. Also looking for a dynamo light, too. 

Let me know what you got that fits this description:

-rivvy style (strong wheels with higher spoke count (32-36h), silver 
everything (or almost everything), velocity atlas/synergy or similar?)
-dynamo - ideally it would be a schmidt dynamo but i'd entertain SP or 
shimano
-7/8speed (9/10/11 should work with spacer, could be OK too)

Thanks!!!

Adam (can text me at 3109636959 for fastest response)


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[RBW] Re: WTB 650b Wheel/set

[Doug Bloch]

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:09:37 PM UTC-8, LBleriot wrote:
> I have a set of as new Riv Budget 650B Wheels (Velocity Twin Hollow rims 
> laced to Deore hubs).  $200 plus Bikeflights shipping for the pair.
> 
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:01:56 PM UTC-5, Paul Choi wrote:
> I need 135 spacing for the rear. 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 2:33:29 PM UTC-7, Paul Choi wrote:
> I have a Sam coming from the pre-sale so I need a 650b wheelset. Does anyone 
> have one they are willing to part with?
> 
> 
> 
> Paul 
> 
> 
> Santa Clara CA

I’m excited to try out this budget Riv wheelset. I finally get to see what all 
the 659b hype is about!

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[RBW] PSA: tall Quickbeam FS on SFBay Craigslist

[Doug Bloch]

I have no association with the seller, but here’s a tall quickbeam for $1500.

Doug

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/6379566948.html

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[RBW] Re: FT: Nitto Bullmoose for Chocomoose

[Isaiah Kramer]

I have chocomoose bars I would trade you!
On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 2:54:01 PM UTC-8, Timothy Hurley wrote:
>
> I have a set of TIG welded Nitto Bullmoose bars (the ones Riv sells) that 
> I'd like to trade for a set of Chocomoose bars. They're in great condition, 
> I'm just looking for a more relaxed position. Thanks!
>
>-T.J.
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[RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[Deacon Patrick]

Jim, Extreme cold poses the issue of needing lighter lubricant, but does not 
post the challenge of thaw, mist, freeze. That’s a very different issue.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:
> The Iditabikers use mostly derailleurs, so there must be some kind of freeze 
> protection. I know there are low-temp lubricants but I don't know if they've 
> been used on bikes. Perhaps walrus blubber on the pivots?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:16:19 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick 
> wrote:Fascinating, Jeffery! Thanks. I called them. He said the mechanics ride 
> all kinds of MTB trails with the Sturmey Archer 3-speed and it holds up just 
> fine — but these are lads who work on bikes all the time and I couldn’t get a 
> picture of where on the spectrum of “maintenance free” to “well, yeah, we fix 
> up up every ride and sometimes on the trail” they fall. Grin. I’ll stick with 
> my 1x9, ridden as a poser-five just shifting two gears at a time, with the 
> plan of ss it if the ice freezes the derailure. My middle gear is 50”, so 
> perfect for too hard up, just right down in sloppy conditions. Grin.
> 
> 
> 
> With abandon,
> 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: 46cm appa clearance

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I also have a 46 cm Appaloosa.  I would very much like to add fenders but 
am not ready to give up my Big Ben's (52 mm).  If you find a way to make it 
work, please post it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[Patrick Moore]

You can get the S3X, or could, in a 130 mm OL spacing. I have one, set up
with a freewheel.

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:03 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Is anyone aware of a 3 speed hub that fits Rivendell's drop out spacing?
> IIRC ithat's usually 132.5 on geared bikes.  My personal experience with
> converting a steel geared bike to 3 speed required finding an axle for 126
> mm OLD as the standard for the old S-As was 120 mm.
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 3:10:28 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Continuing to toy, and one alluring concept is going with a three speed
>> hub. I’ve searched around a bit and not found much (I know of Shaw’s
>> 3-Speed Society) specific to MTBing with 3-speed IGH. Anyone know of
>> anything?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> www.CredoFamily.org
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[Patrick Moore]

Philip: what rings/cogs did you, or would you, use for a 2X2? I agree that,
once you get into chain tensioners and chainkeepers, you might as well use
derailleurs.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Patrick is right - you get twice as much gear change in the rear as the
> front. But... you can get three times the range if you change them both,
> right?
>
> I had a plan to make a 2x2, mostly for fun. Once you've got a tensioner,
> it may as well be a derailleur. Conversely, if you've got a chainkeeper in
> front, it may as well be a derailleur. I think the main impetus was too
> many parts in the bin, and redundant fixed gear bikes. And the White DOS
> ENO freewheels don't have big jumps.
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:06:43 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>
>> I don’t know that there would be any advantages outside of a simpler set
>> up and avoiding an IGH. If you used a triple with 42x32x24 rings you’d have
>> a low, mid, and high gear. I’d have to figure out the gear inches compared
>> to a IGH set up to see how they compare.
>>
>> I think I’d choose a 3x1 front derailer set up over a 1x3 IGH set up for
>> mountain biking and remote touring.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Chris
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[RBW] Re: 46cm appa clearance

[Kellie]

Rat Trap Pass measured 54 tubeless, 53 with inner tube.

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:35:15 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>
> I'm assuming you cannot as the max tire listed for the appa is 26x55
>
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:01:41 AM UTC-5, Sky Coulter wrote:
>>
>> Oh, I see compass has a naches pass ~44mm -- I think that pretty much 
>> solves my problem. It'd be interesting to know if it can fender a 52-54mm 
>> tire though.
>>
>> On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:48:01 UTC-8, Sky Coulter wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking to buy one soon for my wife. Just wondering if anyone who owns 
>>> one has fendered a rat trap pass w reasonable clearance? I’m trying to 
>>> decide what tires to build around.  I’d be happy w anything 40-50mm ish. 
>>>
>>> Thanks, 
>>>
>>> Sky in new west 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: 46cm appa clearance

[Kellie]

Rat Trap Pass tires fendered (SKS Commuter II) on 26" Atlantis.

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 1:48:01 AM UTC-8, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> Looking to buy one soon for my wife. Just wondering if anyone who owns one 
> has fendered a rat trap pass w reasonable clearance? I’m trying to decide 
> what tires to build around.  I’d be happy w anything 40-50mm ish. 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Sky in new west 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter tires - studded

[Peter White]

Forty years ago I was regularly riding through the winter. Some days I was
riding a Raleigh 3 speed (full coverage fenders, so great in the rain) but
most days I was riding my Bob Jackson racing bike with Michelin Elan 23mm
tires. In snow the skinny tires did cut through to pavement and I was
generally fine. I was riding in the western suburbs of Boston and the roads
were regularly plowed, so I rarely was riding through more than about 3
inches of snow. The only times I crashed was when snow was covering ice in
a turn. Then I would crash pretty hard. But when you're 22 years old, you
tend to bounce off the pavement, so no big deal. And I was riding back
roads, so virtually no traffic to deal with.

But these days, the thought of hitting the pavement sends chills up my
arthritic spine, so I ride with studs. The studs are useless most of the
time, since the towns spread salt on all of the roads these days. But there
are those days, when you're riding home from work after dark, and it's been
a bit above freezing with the sun out, and the snow banks on each side of
the road were in melt mode for several hours, and now the temperature is
29, it's an hour after sundown, and all of that water has frozen, and your
lights don't clearly show the difference between clear pavement and icy
pavement, yup, those are the days when your ride home is very slow.

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Rona et al,
>
> There are two schools of thought when it comes to snow riding: thinish
> tires that cut through the snow on top to bite on the “bed rock snow”
> beneith or wider tires to float on top. Handling is different for each and
> shifting from one to the other harrowing, but both are very doable,
> conditions depending, with a lot of overlap. Only experience can tell what
> works for each of us daft enough to have fun in the slop! Grin.
>
> In my experience the only time studs are needed is ice, not snow or
> snowpack. If ice is a regular issue for your rides, definately get studs.
> If not, they are annoying to ride with, even for occational ice.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:33:21 AM UTC-7, RonaTD wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:02:29 AM UTC-6, David B wrote:
> > The Nokian A10s are good for regularly plowed roads. They measure around
> 35mm, so they'll look tiny on a Clem but would work fine for commuting on
> plowed roads. I used them for a couple winters in Chicago on a 650b road
> bike conversion.
> > They're not ideal for more snowy roads. For that I'd go with a 2.1"
> option.
> >
> >
> > That doesn't match my experience. I have A10 650B tires and Schwalbe
> Winter Marathon 26x2.1". In the typical plowed-but-slushy-with-tire-tracks
> conditions that we have here, the 2.1" tires on my Riv ATB float too
> easily, causing abrupt loss of control in an exciting/terrifying way. The
> A10s on my Cheviot and on my Protovelo(Bleriot) are far more stable. On the
> Cheviot the long wheelbase really helps, too. The reality is that deep
> (say, more than 4"), fresh snow is challenging for any bicycle.
> >
> >
> > Ted Durant
> > Milwaukee, WI
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[RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[Jim M.]

The Iditabikers use mostly derailleurs, so there must be some kind of 
freeze protection. I know there are low-temp lubricants but I don't know if 
they've been used on bikes. Perhaps walrus blubber on the pivots?



On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:16:19 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Fascinating, Jeffery! Thanks. I called them. He said the mechanics ride 
> all kinds of MTB trails with the Sturmey Archer 3-speed and it holds up 
> just fine — but these are lads who work on bikes all the time and I 
> couldn’t get a picture of where on the spectrum of “maintenance free” to 
> “well, yeah, we fix up up every ride and sometimes on the trail” they fall. 
> Grin. I’ll stick with my 1x9, ridden as a poser-five just shifting two 
> gears at a time, with the plan of ss it if the ice freezes the derailure. 
> My middle gear is 50”, so perfect for too hard up, just right down in 
> sloppy conditions. Grin. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Anyone know about cycling Death Valley

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm looking forward to the ride to Dante's View.

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[RBW] Re: Winter tires - studded

[Deacon Patrick]

Rona et al,

There are two schools of thought when it comes to snow riding: thinish tires 
that cut through the snow on top to bite on the “bed rock snow” beneith or 
wider tires to float on top. Handling is different for each and shifting from 
one to the other harrowing, but both are very doable, conditions depending, 
with a lot of overlap. Only experience can tell what works for each of us daft 
enough to have fun in the slop! Grin.

In my experience the only time studs are needed is ice, not snow or snowpack. 
If ice is a regular issue for your rides, definately get studs. If not, they 
are annoying to ride with, even for occational ice.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:33:21 AM UTC-7, RonaTD wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:02:29 AM UTC-6, David B wrote:
> The Nokian A10s are good for regularly plowed roads. They measure around 
> 35mm, so they'll look tiny on a Clem but would work fine for commuting on 
> plowed roads. I used them for a couple winters in Chicago on a 650b road bike 
> conversion.
> They're not ideal for more snowy roads. For that I'd go with a 2.1" option. 
> 
> 
> That doesn't match my experience. I have A10 650B tires and Schwalbe Winter 
> Marathon 26x2.1". In the typical plowed-but-slushy-with-tire-tracks 
> conditions that we have here, the 2.1" tires on my Riv ATB float too easily, 
> causing abrupt loss of control in an exciting/terrifying way. The A10s on my 
> Cheviot and on my Protovelo(Bleriot) are far more stable. On the Cheviot the 
> long wheelbase really helps, too. The reality is that deep (say, more than 
> 4"), fresh snow is challenging for any bicycle.
> 
> 
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI

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[RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[Deacon Patrick]

Fascinating, Jeffery! Thanks. I called them. He said the mechanics ride all 
kinds of MTB trails with the Sturmey Archer 3-speed and it holds up just fine — 
but these are lads who work on bikes all the time and I couldn’t get a picture 
of where on the spectrum of “maintenance free” to “well, yeah, we fix up up 
every ride and sometimes on the trail” they fall. Grin. I’ll stick with my 1x9, 
ridden as a poser-five just shifting two gears at a time, with the plan of ss 
it if the ice freezes the derailure. My middle gear is 50”, so perfect for too 
hard up, just right down in sloppy conditions. Grin.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[jeffrey kane]

Here's an interesting Instagram post from the folks at Old Spokes Home in 
Burlington, VT:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BbPtcscl8Zr/?hl=en&taken-by=oldspokeshome

It's about three speeds, in crappy conditions ... I'd call it a resource

On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 6:10:28 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Continuing to toy, and one alluring concept is going with a three speed 
> hub. I’ve searched around a bit and not found much (I know of Shaw’s 
> 3-Speed Society) specific to MTBing with 3-speed IGH. Anyone know of 
> anything? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.CredoFamily.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Re: 46cm appa clearance

[Roger]

I have Schwalbe " Big Ones" on my Appaloosa, which I believe are 700x60.
Not sure a fender would fit, though...

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot dreaming

[Joe Bernard]

That's going to be real pretty, Chris. My Brompton is that color - they call it 
Stardust Black - and it's quite a sight in the sun. I can't wait to see pics of 
your Roadini. 

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[RBW] Re: FS Silver Power Ratchet Shifters and Bar-end Pods

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

Shifters sold in record time! Bar-end pods are still available for $25 
shipped. 

Thanks!
Tim 

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 11:36:10 AM UTC-8, Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
wrote:
>
> Hello again, 
>
> I have a set of Silver/IRD thumbies with some cosmetic character for sale. 
> The bolts on the bottom are oxidized on the outside and one of the black 
> tabs has been replaced with Newbaums. They are mechanically perfect. 
> Originally, they come with two sets of washers--one with a stopper tab and 
> one without. These just have one of each style of washer, which should 
> still give you all the range you need. I really liked the feel and look of 
> these shifters, but I going to give try indexed shifting.
>
> See the pictures for more details: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/PEfKnI4Hp6BD3wCh1 
>
> $45 shipped for the thumb shifters. 
>
> I also have a set of Silver bar-end pods that I could throw in for an 
> additional $20. All the original bits are still there. They have a touch of 
> shellac on the edges, but otherwise they're basically new. Separately, I'd 
> sell them for $25 shipped. 
>
> $65 shipped for shifters and bar-end pods.
>
> Sorry for the repeat post, but I thought this might be a more effective 
> route. 
>
> Thanks!
> Tim
> Portland, OR
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 650b Wheel/set

[LBleriot]

I have a set of as new Riv Budget 650B Wheels (Velocity Twin Hollow rims 
laced to Deore hubs).  $200 plus Bikeflights shipping for the pair.

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:01:56 PM UTC-5, Paul Choi wrote:
>
> I need 135 spacing for the rear. 
>
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 2:33:29 PM UTC-7, Paul Choi wrote:
>>
>> I have a Sam coming from the pre-sale so I need a 650b wheelset. Does 
>> anyone have one they are willing to part with?
>>
>> Paul 
>>
>> Santa Clara CA
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[Eric Norris]

Sturmey Archer hubs are spaced at 120mm, but they come with spacers that allow 
use in wider frames. I have one on a frame with 126mm spacing and it works fine.

--Eric N
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Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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> On Nov 8, 2017, at 12:03 PM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone aware of a 3 speed hub that fits Rivendell's drop out spacing?  
> IIRC ithat's usually 132.5 on geared bikes.  My personal experience with 
> converting a steel geared bike to 3 speed required finding an axle for 126 mm 
> OLD as the standard for the old S-As was 120 mm.  
> 
> dougP
> 
> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 3:10:28 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> Continuing to toy, and one alluring concept is going with a three speed hub. 
> I’ve searched around a bit and not found much (I know of Shaw’s 3-Speed 
> Society) specific to MTBing with 3-speed IGH. Anyone know of anything? 
> 
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
> 
> www.CredoFamily.org  
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
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[RBW] Re: Anyone know about cycling Death Valley

[Ryan Fleming]

Who's the scruffy character? Is it you? Whoever it is the  scenery looks 
like something out of Mad Max or High Plains Drifter or something

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 1:17:41 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>
> Just took the time to find a couple of photos.  This was April 2013.  You 
> have to track it down but there is a "Stovepipe Well" and a story 
> explaining the name.  My notes show that the climb from Texas Spring to 
> Dante's View is 5,400' in approx 25 miles.  One of the guys who attempted 
> the climb noted he was doing 4 mph with 4 miles to go; should be there in 
> an hour.  Then at 3 miles to go he was down to 3 mph; still another hour.  
> He did the math & decided the downhill option was more attractive.
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:39:08 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>>
>> I'll be taking the Hunqapillar, Roadeo and either the Hilsen or MAP out 
>> there for some camping and cycling here in the next couple of weeks camping 
>> and doing a lot of riding. Any advice?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 700c Wheelset - Mavic A319 Rims - Shimano Deore Hubs - 36h - $150 plus shipping

[David B]

These are spoken for, pending pickup.
Thanks,
David

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 11:43:18 AM UTC-6, David B wrote:
>
> Selling a spare wheelset. These were installed on a my Redwood and went on 
> a test ride the length of an alley. 
> Decided to go with stick with CR18s instead. These would be great with 
> larger tires.
> Details...
>
> 700c.
> Mavic A319 Rims - silver - double-eyelets
> Shimano Deore Hubs - silver/gunmetal-ish color - T610 - no qr skewers
> 36 db spokes 
> Stan's rim tape installed
> Can include a new wide-range 8-speed cassette if you'd like, forget the 
> specifics on it, but just ask
>
> $150 plus shipping.
> Local Chicagoland sale preferred - I can drop off within general region.
> Contact off-list with any questions/inquiries.
> Thanks,
> David
> River Grove, IL
>

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[RBW] FS Silver Power Ratchet Shifters and Bar-end Pods

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

Hello again, 

I have a set of Silver/IRD thumbies with some cosmetic character for sale. 
The bolts on the bottom are oxidized on the outside and one of the black 
tabs has been replaced with Newbaums. They are mechanically perfect. 
Originally, they come with two sets of washers--one with a stopper tab and 
one without. These just have one of each style of washer, which should 
still give you all the range you need. I really liked the feel and look of 
these shifters, but I going to give try indexed shifting.

See the pictures for more details: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PEfKnI4Hp6BD3wCh1 

$45 shipped for the thumb shifters. 

I also have a set of Silver bar-end pods that I could throw in for an 
additional $20. All the original bits are still there. They have a touch of 
shellac on the edges, but otherwise they're basically new. Separately, I'd 
sell them for $25 shipped. 

$65 shipped for shifters and bar-end pods.

Sorry for the repeat post, but I thought this might be a more effective 
route. 

Thanks!
Tim
Portland, OR

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[nash5510]

I remember seeing a schlumpf drive at my old shop.  Kinda cool but too weird 
for me. I currently have my cross check setup as a 2 x 9 with no front der.  I 
didn't have the correct shim so I left the der off and I may just leave it that 
way.  Bif ring for commuting, then nudge the chain over with toe for hills or 
off road.  One less cable ftw.

Nash

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[RBW] FS: 700c Wheelset - Mavic A319 Rims - Shimano Deore Hubs - 36h - $150 plus shipping

[David B]

Selling a spare wheelset. These were installed on a my Redwood and went on 
a test ride the length of an alley. 
Decided to go with stick with CR18s instead. These would be great with 
larger tires.
Details...

700c.
Mavic A319 Rims - silver - double-eyelets
Shimano Deore Hubs - silver/gunmetal-ish color - T610 - no qr skewers
36 db spokes 
Stan's rim tape installed
Can include a new wide-range 8-speed cassette if you'd like, forget the 
specifics on it, but just ask

$150 plus shipping.
Local Chicagoland sale preferred - I can drop off within general region.
Contact off-list with any questions/inquiries.
Thanks,
David
River Grove, IL

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[RBW] Re: BG Rock and roll tires 700c

[Carla Waugh]

Davey do you want them? Where do you live? I’ll send them to you so let me know.

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot dreaming

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Ryan I'm getting Metallic Black.  Thought that would be a classic color 
that goes well with many other colors (bar tape, pedals)

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:50:12 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Well! Pictures of both, please ...So Chris, what colour did you end up 
> going with?
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 11:27:35 AM UTC-6, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>>
>> That was me getting the Roadini painted.  Should be there right now in 
>> fact.  I also considered a red but more like a deep Merlot shade.  Bright 
>> red should be very pretty
>
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot dreaming

[Ryan Fleming]

Porsche Ruby Red  by Rivendell's current painter. I thought about this 
colour myself. Very classy!

On Cyclofiend


http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc095-cvanorsdol0406.html  


On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:52:51 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Ooh, a red Glorius. That's sweet!

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[RBW] Re: Bicycle Belle Ding Ding

[REC]

I think it is a noble use of TBBITW--to give comfort to someone you love.

... I started using TBBITW as a dog stroller. Riding was too rough for his 
> back, so I’d just walk the bike - with him in his Wald - around the 
> neighborhood. The many uses of a rivbike. Probably not its noblest use, but 
> it was to me for that time period.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Enjoying autumn colors

[Mike Williams]

Great photos Takashi,  thank you for sharing

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 7, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Ryan Fleming  wrote:
> 
> I love your pictures. So evocative! Autumn is my favourite season, but in 
> Winnipeg , MB the autumn colours maybe last 6-7 weeks. Depending on the 
> weather, especially the wind our trees can be pretty naked by Halloween. I do 
> love the colours while they last though in cloudy or clear conditions
> 
> "Autumn...the year's last, loveliest smile"  From "Indian Summer" by William 
> Cullen Bryant (or John Howard Bryant who was his brother)
> 
>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 8:13:12 AM UTC-6, Takashi wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I visited Aizu area in October and had great time riding there, so I thought 
>> I'd share.
>> Aizu is located at northern part of Japan.
>> It seems that living in the area is tough (not enough flat land for 
>> agriculture, heavy snowfall during winter, etc), but oh the sceneries were 
>> so beautiful.
>> 
>> I was there for two days, cloudy on Saturday and raining all day on Sunday.
>> I enjoyed on both days, even during rain. Quietness, chilly and damp air, 
>> they made sceneries look even more beautiful. (I'm pretty sure that Deacon 
>> Patrick agrees!)
>> 
>> Pictures:
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsm787CSr
>> 
>> Takashi
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Winter tires - studded

[Peter White]

Yup, it's silly alright. Frustrating too.

PJW

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Belopsky  wrote:

> This is kind of silly, is it not Peter? Order placed in May but still no
> confirmation of shipment.
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:56:28 AM UTC-5, Peter White wrote:
>>
>> We have an order in for 40 of the 650b A10s, but we are waiting for
>> confirmation that they have shipped from Finland. I placed the order in
>> May. I will post here as soon as we have confirmation. Some years we wait
>> until early December for our studded tires to arrive, even though we order
>> them in the spring.
>>
>> Peter J White
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Tim Gavin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately, there are still limited options for 650b studded tires.
>>>
>>> The only one that would fit under a P55 fender is the Nokian A10.  It's
>>> a stout commuter tire with reasonable tread and studs on the shoulders.
>>> Seem like they'll get you across the morning re-frozen-meltwater on the
>>> bike path.
>>> $59 from Peter White (seems to be the only US source).
>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.php
>>>
>>> Otherwise, Kenda, Schwalbe, and others make studded MTB tires in
>>> 27.5/650b, but they all start at 2.1"/54 cm wide.  Too wide for P55
>>> fenders, maybe too wide for the frame?
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been riding 4.5" wide studded tires (45 Nrth Dillinger 5) the last
>>> three Iowa winters, and now I have a set of 700 x 38 45 Nrth Gravdal tires
>>> to try on my 'cross bike.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Belopsky  wrote:
>>>
 Since my Clem L is my winter/all-weather commuter, I will be swapping
 tires come winter (which may be tomorrow, #puremichigan)

 What's a solid choice for a 650B tire? I have SKS P55 fenders on with
 decent clearance with the stock Kenda tires currently

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[RBW] Re: Winter tires - studded

[Belopsky]

Hey all, I've found a bike shop in Finland that will ship Nokian A10 to the 
states. I'm thinking about putting an order in. It does not make sense to 
only order 2 due to the shipping cost so seeing if there is interest for 
more. If I order 4 tires to myself it comes in at $62 a tire

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[Thomas McCause]

 I have a 
dingle speed that works wonderfully...
it does require a "manual shift" 

another idea, though somewhat more technical would be

http://blog.jonesbikes.com/6-speed-cassettes/


On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:50:46 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Patrick is right - you get twice as much gear change in the rear as the 
> front. But... you can get three times the range if you change them both, 
> right? 
>
> I had a plan to make a 2x2, mostly for fun. Once you've got a tensioner, 
> it may as well be a derailleur. Conversely, if you've got a chainkeeper in 
> front, it may as well be a derailleur. I think the main impetus was too 
> many parts in the bin, and redundant fixed gear bikes. And the White DOS 
> ENO freewheels don't have big jumps. 
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:06:43 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>
>> I don’t know that there would be any advantages outside of a simpler set 
>> up and avoiding an IGH. If you used a triple with 42x32x24 rings you’d have 
>> a low, mid, and high gear. I’d have to figure out the gear inches compared 
>> to a IGH set up to see how they compare. 
>>
>> I think I’d choose a 3x1 front derailer set up over a 1x3 IGH set up for 
>> mountain biking and remote touring. 
>>
>> Cheers! 
>> Chris
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[RBW] Re: Winter tires - studded

[RonaTD]

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:02:29 AM UTC-6, David B wrote:
>
> The Nokian A10s are good for regularly plowed roads. They measure around 
> 35mm, so they'll look tiny on a Clem but would work fine for commuting on 
> plowed roads. I used them for a couple winters in Chicago on a 650b road 
> bike conversion.
> They're not ideal for more snowy roads. For that I'd go with a 2.1" 
> option. 
>

That doesn't match my experience. I have A10 650B tires and Schwalbe Winter 
Marathon 26x2.1". In the typical plowed-but-slushy-with-tire-tracks 
conditions that we have here, the 2.1" tires on my Riv ATB float too 
easily, causing abrupt loss of control in an exciting/terrifying way. The 
A10s on my Cheviot and on my Protovelo(Bleriot) are far more stable. On the 
Cheviot the long wheelbase really helps, too. The reality is that deep 
(say, more than 4"), fresh snow is challenging for any bicycle.

Ted Durant
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Re: [RBW] Re: Binder bolt and nut specs?

[jeffrey kane]

(+) 1 on bicyclebolts.com -- their stainless steel bolt quality is quite 
good. You don't have to buy the Tamper Proof caps (they have regular hex 
head types as well) -- I use the Tamper Proof caps because I lock my bike 
up here and there in NYC.

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:20:51 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> I hadn't tried them in a while but a few years back I went to Home Depot 
> by my old house and they were pretty well stocked up with all sorts of 
> socket cap hex bolts that were useful on bicycles, so I stocked up.  I 
> never bought an M6, I guess, because I didn't have one in my collection big 
> enough for the binder bolt.
>
> You're right though, this time they sucked.  They didn't even have any M6 
> nuts.  There was a space for them but they were sold out.  They had the 
> Nyloc kind but I wasn't about to use those.  Lowe's had the nuts, and also 
> an M6-25.  I used that rather than a 20.  Maybe could use a 20 and it would 
> mount flush.  the 25 sticks out about an eighth of an inch, which is not a 
> big deal to me.
>
> In case you were wondering about the Why, I sheared off the binder bolt on 
> my Redwood a couple of years back.  Ever since then I have switched the 
> binder bolt back and forth between my Custom and my Redwood depending on 
> which I wanted to ride.  I finally decided this was a completely ridiculous 
> situation and to do something about it.
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>> In my experience, both Home Depot and Lowes suck for bicycle fasteners.  
>> Home Depot sucks way more than Lowes, but both are pretty useless.  A 
>> proper fastener store is best for having everything, but they often hate 
>> you if you are only buying 1.  Ebay has essentially everything, but 
>> sometimes you have to buy a bag of several.  M6x1.0mm 20mm length is 
>> something you may use on other things: a stem bolt, mounting a cantilever 
>> brake, on some Riv rack eyelets.  A bag of 10 for $5.65 shipped is what I'm 
>> seeing from this vendor:  ebay link 
>> 
>>   
>>
>> That way you don't even need to leave your home.  Stock up on all the 
>> common sizes and shop from your own inventory.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> Both Home Depot and Lowe's were sold out of M6-1.0 x20mm stainless 
>>> socket cap bolts.  Sigh.  They had mild steel ones so I took those as a 
>>> temporary measure.  
>>>
>>> The Lowe's guy said he had a truckload of fasteners to unload and stock 
>>> so maybe I'll go back later in the week.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 4:33 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 OK you were asking for the SIZE of the seat post binder bolt on a 
 Rivendell frame?  Woosh!  I missed that entirely.  I guess size is one of 
 many specifications.  I concur with Brendan that it's an M6.  


 On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:26:34 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:

> Yes thanks that's what I was looking for.  I'm going by home Depot on 
> the way home.
>
> I won't use my torque wrench on it.  Lol...
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 4:19 PM Brendan McD  
> wrote:
>
 It uses an M6 bolt and nut. I think the length of the bolt is 20mm, but 
>> you may be able to get away with a shorter length. 
>>
>> I broke my binder bolt on tour and stopped in a local hardware store 
>> and picked up a few extras for a few dollars. I put a dab of grease on 
>> it 
>> and haven't had any problems since.
>>
>> I was taught to tighten the binder bolt just tight enough so that you 
>> can't rotate the seatpost in the seat tube, and that should be enough 
>> torque to keep it from slipping vertically.  
>>
>> Brendan McD
>> Portland, OR
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[RBW] POST YOUR BIKE PICS ON FLICKR RIVENDELL SITE

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

I saw a post where owners were wanting a site to up load photos of their 
Rivendells.
Rivendell has a site on flickr.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell/pool/
Jon

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[RBW] Re: BG Rock and roll tires 700c

[Davey Two Shoes]

so...about these tires...

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[RBW] Re: Who's ridden a Steamroller and can compare to the Quickbeam?

[Davey Two Shoes]

If you crave clearance get an All City Nature Boy. If not, get a Big Block 
(28mm) or a Wabi (32mm)

IMO all are better options than the Roller. 

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[RBW] FS 58cm Rambouillet

[Scott Loveless]

Hi, guys.

I'm selling my 58cm Orange Rambouillet.  $1000.  It will be packed at
the LBS, buyer pays actual shipping from 17011.  Local pickups are
fine, too.

Photos here:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/CjXMrpmPRKyMh16k2  If you have
any trouble accessing the photos, please let me know.  I'd be happy to
attach them to an email.  If you'd like to see something that I've
managed to not photograph very well, I'm happy to take more pictures.

First, the bad.  The top tube was repaired by a previous owner.  This
was obviously a professional repair.  The new paint is blended nicely
with the original.  However, as most of you know, this particular
orange is nigh impossible to match.  In good light, if you know what
you're looking at, it's pretty obvious.  You should be able to see it
in the photos.  The untrained eye would probably never notice.  The
Jack Brown greens are nearing the end of their life.  While there's
plenty of tread material, the sidewalls are starting to feel a bit
papery.  They're certainly not unsafe, but will likely need to be
replaced within the next year or so.  If you'd like, I'd be happy to
swap them for some new 28mm Panaracer Pasela tires.

The very good: The wheels on this bike are really nice.  Chris King
hubs laced to Velocity Aerohead rims.  8/9/10 speed compatible freehub
body.  My kids call this bike "the angry hornet".

Currently, the bike is set up with a 9-speed drive train.  Dura-Ace
rear derailer and Dura-Ace down tube shifters; indexed/friction
switchable.  The rings on the Specialites crank say 9/10 speed.
Shimano 600 front derailer.

Blackburn Chicane cages.  Ultegra headset, Nitto stem.  Noodle
handlebar, 46cm.  White cotton tape with Ardbeg plugs.  Tektro levers.
Shimano calipers with Kool Stop salmon pads.  I believe the seat post
is a Kalloy or similar.  The B17 Special is well worn and shows it's
age.  The copper rails are tarnishes and there's some superficial
cracking around the rivets.  I put some VO goop on it when I got the
bike, and then put it on a shelf in favor a different saddle.

The pedals are not included, but if you need something I have a box
full of quill pedals.  I'm happy to include them if you want.

If you're interested, but want different components, please let me
know.  I have a pretty big stash of parts.  For example, I could swap
the rear der for a 10-speed 105, cassette for an 11-30 10-speed and
the 9-speed down tube shifters for 10-speed bar ends.  I could fit a
Sugino triple if you're more interested returning this bike to an
original configuration.  Just let me know, and we'll work something
out.

I can accept Paypal, Google Wallet or cold, hard cash.

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Binder bolt and nut specs?

[Jim Bronson]

I hadn't tried them in a while but a few years back I went to Home Depot by
my old house and they were pretty well stocked up with all sorts of socket
cap hex bolts that were useful on bicycles, so I stocked up.  I never
bought an M6, I guess, because I didn't have one in my collection big
enough for the binder bolt.

You're right though, this time they sucked.  They didn't even have any M6
nuts.  There was a space for them but they were sold out.  They had the
Nyloc kind but I wasn't about to use those.  Lowe's had the nuts, and also
an M6-25.  I used that rather than a 20.  Maybe could use a 20 and it would
mount flush.  the 25 sticks out about an eighth of an inch, which is not a
big deal to me.

In case you were wondering about the Why, I sheared off the binder bolt on
my Redwood a couple of years back.  Ever since then I have switched the
binder bolt back and forth between my Custom and my Redwood depending on
which I wanted to ride.  I finally decided this was a completely ridiculous
situation and to do something about it.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> In my experience, both Home Depot and Lowes suck for bicycle fasteners.
> Home Depot sucks way more than Lowes, but both are pretty useless.  A
> proper fastener store is best for having everything, but they often hate
> you if you are only buying 1.  Ebay has essentially everything, but
> sometimes you have to buy a bag of several.  M6x1.0mm 20mm length is
> something you may use on other things: a stem bolt, mounting a cantilever
> brake, on some Riv rack eyelets.  A bag of 10 for $5.65 shipped is what I'm
> seeing from this vendor:  ebay link
> 
>
>
> That way you don't even need to leave your home.  Stock up on all the
> common sizes and shop from your own inventory.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> Both Home Depot and Lowe's were sold out of M6-1.0 x20mm stainless socket
>> cap bolts.  Sigh.  They had mild steel ones so I took those as a temporary
>> measure.
>>
>> The Lowe's guy said he had a truckload of fasteners to unload and stock
>> so maybe I'll go back later in the week.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 4:33 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> OK you were asking for the SIZE of the seat post binder bolt on a
>>> Rivendell frame?  Woosh!  I missed that entirely.  I guess size is one of
>>> many specifications.  I concur with Brendan that it's an M6.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:26:34 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
 Yes thanks that's what I was looking for.  I'm going by home Depot on
 the way home.

 I won't use my torque wrench on it.  Lol...

 On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 4:19 PM Brendan McD  wrote:

>>> It uses an M6 bolt and nut. I think the length of the bolt is 20mm, but
> you may be able to get away with a shorter length.
>
> I broke my binder bolt on tour and stopped in a local hardware store
> and picked up a few extras for a few dollars. I put a dab of grease on it
> and haven't had any problems since.
>
> I was taught to tighten the binder bolt just tight enough so that you
> can't rotate the seatpost in the seat tube, and that should be enough
> torque to keep it from slipping vertically.
>
> Brendan McD
> Portland, OR
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Re: [RBW] Re: Binder bolt and nut specs?

[lconley]

I second the Ace Hardware suggestion.
Beware of using a stainless nut with a stainless bolt unless you use 
anti-seize, they can gall. A metric class 8.8 (~SAE grade 5) or 10.9 (~SAE 
grade 8) bolt works well if you don't want stainless.

Laing

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 8:26:36 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:

> Ace Hardware usually has a pretty good selection of bolts. From what I’ve 
> learned about bicycle fasteners, chrome-plated steel is stronger than 
> stainless, so that’s an option for you as well.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:00 PM, Bill Lindsay > 
> wrote:
>
> In my experience, both Home Depot and Lowes suck for bicycle fasteners.  
> Home Depot sucks way more than Lowes, but both are pretty useless.  A 
> proper fastener store is best for having everything, but they often hate 
> you if you are only buying 1.  Ebay has essentially everything, but 
> sometimes you have to buy a bag of several.  M6x1.0mm 20mm length is 
> something you may use on other things: a stem bolt, mounting a cantilever 
> brake, on some Riv rack eyelets.  A bag of 10 for $5.65 shipped is what I'm 
> seeing from this vendor:  ebay link 
> 
>   
>
> That way you don't even need to leave your home.  Stock up on all the 
> common sizes and shop from your own inventory.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> Both Home Depot and Lowe's were sold out of M6-1.0 x20mm stainless socket 
>> cap bolts.  Sigh.  They had mild steel ones so I took those as a temporary 
>> measure.  
>>
>> The Lowe's guy said he had a truckload of fasteners to unload and stock 
>> so maybe I'll go back later in the week.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 4:33 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> OK you were asking for the SIZE of the seat post binder bolt on a 
>>> Rivendell frame?  Woosh!  I missed that entirely.  I guess size is one of 
>>> many specifications.  I concur with Brendan that it's an M6.  
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:26:34 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
 Yes thanks that's what I was looking for.  I'm going by home Depot on 
 the way home.

 I won't use my torque wrench on it.  Lol...

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>>> It uses an M6 bolt and nut. I think the length of the bolt is 20mm, but 
> you may be able to get away with a shorter length. 
>
> I broke my binder bolt on tour and stopped in a local hardware store 
> and picked up a few extras for a few dollars. I put a dab of grease on it 
> and haven't had any problems since.
>
> I was taught to tighten the binder bolt just tight enough so that you 
> can't rotate the seatpost in the seat tube, and that should be enough 
> torque to keep it from slipping vertically.  
>
> Brendan McD
> Portland, OR
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Re: [RBW] Winter tires - studded

[Belopsky]

This is kind of silly, is it not Peter? Order placed in May but still no 
confirmation of shipment. 

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:56:28 AM UTC-5, Peter White wrote:
>
> We have an order in for 40 of the 650b A10s, but we are waiting for 
> confirmation that they have shipped from Finland. I placed the order in 
> May. I will post here as soon as we have confirmation. Some years we wait 
> until early December for our studded tires to arrive, even though we order 
> them in the spring.
>
> Peter J White
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Tim Gavin  > wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, there are still limited options for 650b studded tires.  
>>
>> The only one that would fit under a P55 fender is the Nokian A10.  It's a 
>> stout commuter tire with reasonable tread and studs on the shoulders.  Seem 
>> like they'll get you across the morning re-frozen-meltwater on the bike 
>> path.
>> $59 from Peter White (seems to be the only US source).  
>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/studdedtires.php
>>
>> Otherwise, Kenda, Schwalbe, and others make studded MTB tires in 
>> 27.5/650b, but they all start at 2.1"/54 cm wide.  Too wide for P55 
>> fenders, maybe too wide for the frame?
>>
>>
>> I've been riding 4.5" wide studded tires (45 Nrth Dillinger 5) the last 
>> three Iowa winters, and now I have a set of 700 x 38 45 Nrth Gravdal tires 
>> to try on my 'cross bike.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Belopsky > > wrote:
>>
>>> Since my Clem L is my winter/all-weather commuter, I will be swapping 
>>> tires come winter (which may be tomorrow, #puremichigan)
>>>
>>> What's a solid choice for a 650B tire? I have SKS P55 fenders on with 
>>> decent clearance with the stock Kenda tires currently
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[RBW] Re: 46cm appa clearance

[Belopsky]

I'm assuming you cannot as the max tire listed for the appa is 26x55

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:01:41 AM UTC-5, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> Oh, I see compass has a naches pass ~44mm -- I think that pretty much 
> solves my problem. It'd be interesting to know if it can fender a 52-54mm 
> tire though.
>
> On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:48:01 UTC-8, Sky Coulter wrote:
>>
>> Looking to buy one soon for my wife. Just wondering if anyone who owns 
>> one has fendered a rat trap pass w reasonable clearance? I’m trying to 
>> decide what tires to build around.  I’d be happy w anything 40-50mm ish. 
>>
>> Thanks, 
>>
>> Sky in new west 
>>
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[RBW] Re: 46cm appa clearance

[Sky Coulter]

Oh, I see compass has a naches pass ~44mm -- I think that pretty much 
solves my problem. It'd be interesting to know if it can fender a 52-54mm 
tire though.

On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:48:01 UTC-8, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> Looking to buy one soon for my wife. Just wondering if anyone who owns one 
> has fendered a rat trap pass w reasonable clearance? I’m trying to decide 
> what tires to build around.  I’d be happy w anything 40-50mm ish. 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Sky in new west 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The RBW Website has a new look...

[islaysteve]

I really like the sound of a Fellowship of Rivendells:  "The autumn tour 
attracted a variety of bicycles including a Fellowship of four 
Rivendells."  But I suppose it could sound a bit Precious to some folks.  
Cheers, Steve


On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:28:37 PM UTC-5, lconley wrote:
>
> Is there an accepted collective noun (murder of crows, pod of whales, 
> etc.) for a group of Rivendells? If not, I would propose "fellowship" of 
> Rivendells in keeping with the Tolkien theme.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:57:01 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Why not start a list thread: "Post photos of all your current Rivendells, 
>> with build descriptions."
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bicycle Belle Ding Ding

[islaysteve]

Leah, I'm so happy to hear that your dog continues to do well.  It's so 
hard for us sometimes to know how our pets feel, but yours is giving you a 
pretty clear message!  Regarding your upcoming court date, I hope you're 
not stressing too much over it.  I'm not an attorney, but I did have a 
chance to testify in a somewhat similar situation involving a motorcycle 
accident which I witnessed.  Thankfully no one was killed and the cyclist 
was recovering.  Although my testimony clearly helped one party, the 
attorney for the other party did not attack me or question my competence in 
any way.  It was all quite civil.  I would hope that your case is as open 
and shut.  As you say, the testimony of the other witness will hold even 
more weight.  I know that you will come out just fine and will continue to 
be a great example to all of us.  Keep the bus rolling, Steve


On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:28:58 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Oh, Ty, thank you - I’m touched. I’m glad to hear your dog made it through 
> his surgeries and that you’ve had many happy years. They go so quickly, 
> don’t they. I hope you’re able to squeeze every last drop of joy from his 
> golden years and that you know you did your best for him. He’s clearly been 
> well-loved. And cleverly named. Cheers to Guinness! And to you. 
> PS my dog continues to defy odds and act like a puppy. I have videos to 
> prove how bad off he really was. If not for those, even I would accuse me 
> of exaggerating his pain and suffering.

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[RBW] Re: Winterizing Ideas?

[ascpgh]

Patrick, In the winter I find that narrowing my gear choices is a proactive 
winter conditions strategy. If the chain is on a cog, the slop is less able 
to pack in enough to for it to become problematic so I change gears as 
little as I can. I'm service-averse of my own bikes and choose parts 
accordingly to avoid a low ride time/service time ratio. My time in the 
business made me savor my riding and not particularly finding tonic in 
their service. I do my own service/maintenance and enjoy work well done, I 
just don't invite more than necessary with untested or off-label use of 
components, parts and pieces. 

My winter riding situation s different than yours since I'm mostly on the 
roads, complicated by a slop of snow and salt/melters. Their strategy is to 
use melters as long as possible to avoid dropping the plow blades on the 
pavement. The wheel-flung slurry is amicable to freezing onto surfaces, 
metal especially. Fenders, fork legs, chainstays, rear derailleur and cogs 
all targets. Over a decade of this I've balanced my approach to permit the 
most trouble free operation despite the conditions. Not that I'll be 30 
miles from home, but that I'll be late to work and potentially cascading 
repercussions. "When (you) absolutely, positively have to get there..."

My only big accommodation was getting a frame with disc brakes. The salted 
slop of winter roads made this much more distinct improvement than many 
other circumstances of which I've read reports. Away from the melters, it 
is not as pronounced and I do come to consider doing away with them and 
going back to a daily rider using rim brakes. Then is snows and the city 
salt trucks got going.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:04:57 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Executive Summery Conclusion: Drum brakes and IGH (except Rollof and 
> possibly a 7sp. Torpedo) are not designed for rough riding and folks who 
> are riding IGH and/or drum brakes off pavement are always fiddling with 
> their bikes and it is almost never a long term, reliable solution, but 
> instead one that is always breaking and needing fixing — the fiddler’s 
> dream! Thus, neither is the solution I seek and instead of a 
> Tranformapillar, I will focus on the Contentapillar. Grin. 
>
> The Journey 
> The last two days I’ve been riding the Hunqapillar in wannabe 3-speed 
> mode. It’s been a fascinating experience — similar to the simplicity of 
> singlespeed, but with the ability to shift to a certain point without 
> stopping. A lot less thinking about gear shifts, so I may well incorporate 
> it into my routine, essentially skipping two gears each shift. 
>
> I spoke with Grant, who was, as ever, very generious beyond all reasonable 
> expectations and even some unreasonable ones. He had some ideas on how to 
> lube the pivots in my derailure to possibly encourage shifting when frozen, 
> or at least making it easier for my hand to manually shift. 
>
> All of this is the result of a very good thing — ongoing brain healing 
> that allows me to be stupider farther out in all conditions. Grin. Thus I 
> seek ways to maximize the liklihood of my gear not failing 30 miles from 
> home. Grin. 
>
> Thank you all for your generosity in playing with this with me. Ride with 
> wild abandon! 
>
> WIth abandon, 
> Patrick 

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[RBW] 46cm appa clearance

[Sky Coulter]

Looking to buy one soon for my wife. Just wondering if anyone who owns one has 
fendered a rat trap pass w reasonable clearance? I’m trying to decide what 
tires to build around.  I’d be happy w anything 40-50mm ish.

Thanks,

Sky in new west

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