Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Haha, Joe. An intervention...it’s come to this! 

I’m gonna take the Clem to get the super-sonic-wooper-dooper cleaning job REI 
offers, so not a total loss. The Clem’s rightful owner didn’t put many miles on 
it, but it’s from 2015 or 2016, so probably time to get it cleaned and 
frame-savered and tuned up. Especially because it’s mine now. I rightfully 
stole it, so it’s rightfully mine and I have standards. 

I’ve done a lot of mental gymnastics to find this “bright side” - and if 
something breaks on the Betz tomorrow and I’m bikeless again I will be beyond 
consolation. Or finagling a way to fit on the #littlesilverclem. Don’t think I 
won’t do it.

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Eastern Cape, North Island, New Zealand

[lambbo]

Wow, what a ride!  And summarized as eloquently as...
Pictures are beautiful.  Hard not to be totally envious, very inspiring!

On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 5:57:07 AM UTC-4, John Rinker wrote:
>
> New Zealand. Aotearoa. Sweet as! It is a place so breathtakingly beautiful 
> locals feel no need to complete similes.
>
>
> Twenty-one days of riding the Bay of Plenty and Eastern Cape region, over 
> 1200 kms of the most isolated roads and tracks on the North Island, and I 
> experienced a multitude of similes best left open-ended. I pedalled under 
> skies as blue as, and rested during nights as dark as. I slept under stars 
> as bright as, and marveled at a Milky Way, well, as milky as. Wandered 
> through forests as dense and primordial as. I lay under ferns as green as 
> and tried to wrap my arms around trees as old as. I struggled up hills, 
> steep as, and flew down them as fast as. I swam in rivers as clear as, and 
> fought, to no avail, with trout as strong as. I ambled sandy beaches as 
> picturesque as, and I was welcomed by people as warm and as generous as.
>
>
> The Eastern Cape is the least traveled part of the North Island offering 
> some of the most remote riding. While the Kiwis or the Maori would not call 
> them mountains, there are plenty of hills with sustained climbing and 
> rewarding views. Much of my route, once away from the coast, was through 
> 'mountainous', forested and very sparsely populated backcountry. Few 
> people, if any, ever cycle in some of these places (so I was told), but I 
> was very surprised to not have seen a single cycle tourer even on the 
> roads. In the town of Opotiki, I did see a fully loaded cyclist only to 
> discover after catching up with him that he was the postman on his rounds. 
>
>
> Someone somewhere must have at sometime said it of someplace, but New 
> Zealand is a land one simply cannot visit once in a lifetime and be 
> fulfilled.
>
>
> For a more detailed look here's a link to my Gaia 'tracks' for the entire 
> ride with photo waypoints along the way:
>
>
> Gaia GPS New Zealand Tracks 
> 
>
>
> [image: IMG_0012.jpg]
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness

[Joe Bernard]

I'm seriously about ready for a Vegas vacation. 

"Welcome to Las Vegas, sir, what are you here for? The shows? The casinos?"

"No ma'am, I'm on business. Leah's bikes."

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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

Good point, Doug, I have a couple all-silver cranks on other bikes. I may do 
some swapping around among silvers cuz I'd like to use the black one on my 
Seven. 

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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[dougP]

"Hmm, nix on the silver with yellow."

The yellow is distracting, even in a small pic.  Plain silver would look 
great, and compliment the black components.  The black racks look 
understated & don't call attention to themselves.  It makes the whole bike 
look more muted & serious.  This is one of the more interesting Atlantis 
builds I've seen.  

dougP

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 3:56:37 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It'll be interesting to see, Todd. I spent most of my riding time fiddling 
> today so only got another short "hard to say" pedal in, but the position on 
> the hoods feels good so far. There's lots of surface area to rest on and 
> the levers are super easy to reach and operate. I'm not much of a dropbar 
> guy, either, so it's a bit of a surprise to me. 
>
> Hmm, nix on the silver with yellow. I just compared pics and the black 
> cranks look MUCH better. Back to wrenching!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness

[Leah Peterson]

Kent - Yes! So true - I think I’ve actually done this before. But I am a 
crackerjack bike-rack operator on the two I own, and I think I can absolve 
myself from rack mistakes now. Also, they are tray types and don’t much 
interfere with anything. At least I think. Hey, why don’t any of you folks live 
in Vegas so we would know for sure?!?



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> On Mar 27, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Kent Peterson -- Eugene, Oregon 
>  wrote:
> 
> Speaking as a mechanic, one thing that we see a lot of is people taking a 
> perfectly working bike, putting it in a car or on a rack, getting it home and 
> then it is no longer working. Often it is a cable housing that has has been 
> nudged or knocked out of a cable stop but there are a range of things that 
> could have happened.
> 
> I'm not saying that this is what happened here, but it is a possibility.
> 
> Kent Peterson
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[RBW] Re: FS parting out my Sam

[Andrew Huston]

Here’s what’s left

55 Sage F/F/HS and post  $950 
90 nitto technomic stem $40
Shimano dura ace bar end shifters 9sp $60 
10 speed tiagra RD $20 
Shimano Deore FD m590 $15
Tektro RL520 brake levers $20 
Pearl izumi neoprene booties $5

Also brand new pair Terravail Cannonball 700x42  $60
Pair Surly Extraterrestrial 700x41, maybe 100 miles. $45

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness

[Kent Peterson -- Eugene, Oregon]

Speaking as a mechanic, one thing that we see a lot of is people taking a 
perfectly working bike, putting it in a car or on a rack, getting it home and 
then it is no longer working. Often it is a cable housing that has has been 
nudged or knocked out of a cable stop but there are a range of things that 
could have happened.

I'm not saying that this is what happened here, but it is a possibility.

Kent Peterson
Eugene, Oregon

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Edelux II headlight and Wolf Tooth chainring

[Eric Karnes]

All sold. Thanks!

On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 10:33:25 PM UTC-4, Forrest Harvey wrote:
>
> Sent you a message eric!
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 7:19 PM Eric Karnes  > wrote:
>
>> Forgot an image of the light...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 15, 2019 at 8:02:46 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all-
>>>
>>> So, these are (I think) the last two parts left before my transatlantic 
>>> move…
>>>
>>> Wolf Tooth 40T Dropstop Ring : For a 1x setup. 130bcd, Black, decent 
>>> condition. $25 shipped conus.
>>>
>>> SON Edelux II headlight : This is was purchased new from Compass new 
>>> about a year ago and wired to a custom fork built for the SL connector-less 
>>> system. The wire has been cut pretty short by the shop that set up the 
>>> bike. I'm not sure what you would need to do to attach it to a different 
>>> fork, but make me an offer! I need to get it out of the apartment.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bikelessness

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Aaand that’s one of the challenges with modern bike shops. It is hard to 
find one that just gets the job done right the first time. I’d suggest you talk 
with the owner, letting him know so he has the option of making things right. 
Far better to have held the bikes longer and done the job right the first time. 
Whoever the mechanic was both times should be shown what they did wrong and 
helped to learn how to do it right. You’re describing pretty basic things a 
good mechanic would have gotten right.

Second, mechanics of Rivendell bikes are not that hard. If you are comfortable 
sitting on the floor or squatting, you really don’t even need a repair stand. I 
followed the “learn as I go method” as jobs required. I bought the tools that 
job required and that helped spread out the overwhelming nature of the whole 
thing, and was easier on the budget. Grin. Derailures still baffle me, and 
perhaps always will. Learn what you can, knowing you can always fall back on 
your LBS if needed.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Todd Porter]

Those new bike adjustment periods can be equal parts exciting and frustrating.  
I've had my Homer a little over a month now and was making a minor adjustment 
on the way home from work yesterday. Great riding bike though. Hope the bars 
work out, cause they look super cool. 

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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

It'll be interesting to see, Todd. I spent most of my riding time fiddling 
today so only got another short "hard to say" pedal in, but the position on the 
hoods feels good so far. There's lots of surface area to rest on and the levers 
are super easy to reach and operate. I'm not much of a dropbar guy, either, so 
it's a bit of a surprise to me. 

Hmm, nix on the silver with yellow. I just compared pics and the black cranks 
look MUCH better. Back to wrenching!

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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Todd Porter]

I love the look of that bike.  Will be curious to see how you get on with those 
bars after the initial adjustment phase. I've always been curious about the 
really flared dirt drops, but not quite enough to give it a go. I think i may 
be past the drop bar days of my riding.  Currently very happy with albas and 
billies on my two main bikes.

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Eastern Cape, North Island, New Zealand

[Takashi]

WOW.
Reading your words and looking at your pictures of rivers, mountains, 
roads, etc., I'm as speechless as... !

Takashi

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[RBW] Re: Spring! And riding for fun! And 20th anniversary! And ...!

[RichS]

Patrick,

Wonderful post. Could have been written by Grant on his Blahg - especially 
since he likes to include musical references. In 1968 I had no thought of 
turning 64 but here I am as well and actually a bit beyond.
Birthday wishes and I hope you have more delightful spring rides.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 5:07:05 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Beautiful high desert spring day, 73*, winds modest and discrete at 6 
> gusts to 7 from SW (and this is our windy season!), cerulean blue skies 
> with a few child's picture book puffy clouds, pollen count low, and I work 
> for myself and thus can with good conscience take a break and go for a 
> ride. Total of 19 miles this afternoon including side trips.
>
> The Joe Starck custom 26" wheeled gofast turns 20 in April; what a long 
> strange trip it's been, too. Last year Chauncey Matthews replaced the 
> original OEM "short horizontals" with *long* horizontals, and added st 
> cage bosses; the longer dropouts accommodate the 15 t cruising gear but 
> will accept a 12 t for the S3X if I decide to use it (95/71/59), and also 
> accepts a 17/20 Dingle on the flip side of the Phil, for 76/67/57.
>
> I have to say that, because I ride principally for fun, and because this 
> bike is just more delightful than any of my other bikes, including the 
> almost-as-delightful 2003 Curt which turned 16 this month, and the also 
> very delightful Matthews road-bike-for-dirt -- it just feels so light and 
> deft and responsive, not to mention comfortable -- the other bikes are also 
> comfortable.
>
> I turned 64 this month and while I am always the last person to remember 
> my own birthdays (family and friends generally remind me), I did rather 
> hilariously recall a song that I'd first learned about this time in 1968, 
> after visitors left the Sgt. Pepper's album behind for us kids after their 
> visit: "When I'm 64." I remember rather liking the song and thinking that 
> age 64 was a kind of legendary thing, like the lost continent of Atlantis 
> or just and efficient government. (Actually, the government thought came 
> later.) But here I am. Note that I was a very enthusiastic and ignorant 
> cyclist, already engaged in chronic upgrading, in spring 1969.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTunqv1Xt4
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And 
> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the 
> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
> --- J.R.R. Tolkien
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[RBW] Cheviot in Santa Monica?

[sameness]

Yesterday, Tuesday the 26th, crossing Pico between Cloverfield and Stewart 
around 5:40 PM. Looked to be a RBW blue Cheviot with a front rack and 
basket. Caucasian male rider, older than 20, younger than 40, no helmet. 
Belated "Nice bike!" shout-out.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 2 Gus Boots For Sale on Riv Site

[Ed Carolipio]

When I was asking about the prototype, Will said one of the changes on the 
updated frames was to move the brake posts - I forget which direction - to 
make the frame "work better" with a 2.8" tire and V-brakes. As a guess, 
V-brake reach may have been an issue - my complete came with CX-50s and 
straddle cable/carrier instead of the stock fixed straddle cable thingy -  
which they addressed with the updated design.

--Ed C.


On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 9:24:28 AM UTC-7, Ryan M. wrote:
>
> Can owners comment on the wider tires with the cliffhanger rims and v 
> brake arms?  Does the roundness of the tire and having a further reach for 
> the brake pad to contact the rim seem to interfere at all with the v brake 
> arms? 
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58 Hunqapillar

[Bill Rhea]

You won't regret it!

I'm going to hang on to my gray 62cm Hunqa until I croak (or can't lift a 
leg over it)!

On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 6:53:38 PM UTC-7, Pancake wrote:
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> They may start becoming available in the next few months as people swap 
> out to the Gus Boots Wilson.  Good luck Hunq hunting!

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[RBW] Re: wtb: Sugino XD2 - Wide/low double 40t x 26t (170mm)

[Philip Williamson]

Good luck - this chainring setup is what I settled on for my new bike, 
coupled with an 11sp 12-28 road cassette. 

Philip 
Santa Rosa, CA 

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 8:03:56 AM UTC-7, Eric wrote:
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> Looking to buy a new or used Sugino XD2 - wide/low double. 
>
> Thanks! 
>
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[RBW] FS 650b Son hub, Gran Bois rim, Lumotec IQ Cyo N Plus, 32 spoke wheel

[Mike K.]

Trying to pm you on mobile. Sorry if it fails. Happy to buy the wheel if the 
sale falls through. 

- Mike

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[RBW] Re: Stockholm/Amsterdam/Copenhagen recommendations/meet-ups?

[Surlyprof]

If you want to go to the Anne Frank house, reserve the date and time you want 
to go online.  We had our printed tickets with us when we got there and they 
just put us right in our tour group.  It was raining, there was a giant line, 
and we were able walk right up, show our reservations and go inside.  

John (whose wife is a WAY more organized tourist than he is!)

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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks, Brett. The black/silver mix is a slightly unintentional surprise that 
came as a result of buying the bike as a built demo, then having them remove 
stuff I was replacing with my own parts. It originally had an all-black rear 
derailer and mostly-black, (gold pins) chain. 

Now that I'm looking at the black/silver derailers and levers, and silver post 
and chain, I'm thinking my silver 50.4 V-O cranks (46-30) may look great here. 
I was sure it needed black cranks, but maybe not so much. Time to get to work, 
then get riding!

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 2 Gus Boots For Sale on Riv Site

[Ryan M.]

IMHO and this is coming from the way I know I ride... the Cliffhangers are 
not a good rim for a tire in the 2.8 inch range. I have Cliffhangers on my 
Appaloosa running 57mm G Ones and I just don't see how a 2.8 would ride 
well off road (it would be terribly balloon like), especially if you are 
thinking about putting knobbies on it...you know, for actual dirt riding. I 
like the Cliffhanger for the Appaloosa and have it setup tubeless...it's a 
great setup with the 57mm G ones. 

I have a  new Trek Remedy 9.8 that is running 27+ tires, 2.6 inch stock 
tires on 30mm rims and the setup works very well. I think 30mm or above is 
the width you want to start looking at for a tire that is 2.8 in width. The 
thing is that with a wider tire you will be riding a lower air pressure, 
and if you have it ballooned out you really are risking folding the tire 
when you hit a turn at speed. Now, this is totally dependent on how you 
ride and what, if any, trails you are going to ride. For me, if the 
cliffhanger is the widest rim I got, I'm going to stick with a tire in the 
2.2 to 2.4inch width and I think the Gus will probably handle pretty great 
with those size tires. 

Can owners comment on the wider tires with the cliffhanger rims and v brake 
arms?  Does the roundness of the tire and having a further reach for the 
brake pad to contact the rim seem to interfere at all with the v brake 
arms?  


- Ryan (who thinks disc brakes like the Paul Klampers are a lot better than 
rim brakes ;) )

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 12:06:08 AM UTC-5, Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Ah, I see I am not the only ed obsessing over narrow non-disc rims with 
> 27.5+ tires...
>
> The Cliffhanger has an interior width of 25mm. The bike came stock with 
> Cliffhangers and 2.8" G-One Allrounders, so my guess is folks on the board 
> who've demoed this Gus at Riv and had All-Rounders also had the same rim. I 
> did a casual road ride with that setup with no issues, though I do worry if 
> I do anything on the trails the tires would get squirmy. I was monitoring 
> the GBW thread and that seemed to be a consensus opinion.
>
> Would be curious to hear about from GBW owners on what riding the 
> aggressively was like. (Sadly, I won't get a chance to do that anytime 
> soon, otherwise I'd report on it.) Also appreciate any leads on a 650b rim 
> with a brake track and an internal width closer to 30mm...
>
>
> --Ed C.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 7:23:22 PM UTC-7, ed wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ed!,
>> Would you mind sharing the rim size of the Cliffhanger of your GBW?
>> Thanks :-)
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 10:00 AM Ed Carolipio  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had/have (still packing it for sale) a 51cm Joe. I got the Small GBW 
>>> prototype and adjusted it into "commuter mode" recently. Key build 
>>> differences with the Joe vs GBW: 55cm Albas with a 9cm Nitto Technomic stem 
>>> vs 710mm Jones Loop with a 30mm Spank stem; 2.0" Marathon Supremes on VO 
>>> Diagonales vs 2.35" G-One Speeds on Velocity Cliffhangers; and Sugino XD600 
>>> cranks vs Silver cranks. Everything else is roughly the same, and I ride 
>>> the same urban, all pavement route with the same load to work.
>>>
>>> The one sentence summary on the GBW: there's no mistaking it's a 
>>> mountain bike. It may have a rack and notionally street tires, but the ride 
>>> rhymes with all the mountain bikes I've owned. I read all of that Mongolian 
>>> riding stuff that Grant wrote about and thought, yeah, sure, Grant, 
>>> whatever, you're the crazy man riding into chest deep pools of water in 
>>> your Ethiopian shoes, but after riding the GBW I kinda get what he's 
>>> saying. 
>>>
>>> I also like the swoopy top tube since I can mount the bike without 
>>> having to swing my leg over the seat and standover is one less thing to 
>>> worry about when the terrain gets uneven or when tackling a challenging 
>>> part of a trail.
>>>
>>> For me, I picked the GBW over the Joe because I wanted a mountain bike 
>>> that I could commute with during the week, and I like the ride of fat 
>>> tires. The GBW will likely outshine the Joe on single track while lightly 
>>> loaded, while the Joe would outperform the GBW when hauling a load or 
>>> pounding out miles on maintained gravel roads.
>>>
>>>
>>> --Ed C.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 11:31:38 AM UTC-7, Jonathan D. wrote:

 Thoughts on how the Gus’ ride will compare to the Joe and Atlantis?  I 
 don’t have a sense of the geometry differences beyond the fat whee 
 options. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Spring! And riding for fun! And 20th anniversary! And ...!

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Roberta, you are very kind. I take comfort in the face of advancing
decrepitude in the knowledge that I am not as old as Mick Jagger (or as
ugly as Keith Richards).

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 9:55 AM REC (Roberta)  wrote:

> The ride was a wonderful way to celebrate your birthday month.  Happy
> birthday.
>
> Although not a big Beatles fan, I really enjoyed the your tube link.
> Thank you.
>
> Roberta
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 5:07:05 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Beautiful high desert spring day, 73*, winds modest and discrete at 6
>> gusts to 7 from SW (and this is our windy season!), cerulean blue skies
>> with a few child's picture book puffy clouds, pollen count low, and I work
>> for myself and thus can with good conscience take a break and go for a
>> ride. Total of 19 miles this afternoon including side trips.
>>
>> The Joe Starck custom 26" wheeled gofast turns 20 in April; what a long
>> strange trip it's been, too. Last year Chauncey Matthews replaced the
>> original OEM "short horizontals" with *long* horizontals, and added st
>> cage bosses; the longer dropouts accommodate the 15 t cruising gear but
>> will accept a 12 t for the S3X if I decide to use it (95/71/59), and also
>> accepts a 17/20 Dingle on the flip side of the Phil, for 76/67/57.
>>
>> I have to say that, because I ride principally for fun, and because this
>> bike is just more delightful than any of my other bikes, including the
>> almost-as-delightful 2003 Curt which turned 16 this month, and the also
>> very delightful Matthews road-bike-for-dirt -- it just feels so light and
>> deft and responsive, not to mention comfortable -- the other bikes are also
>> comfortable.
>>
>> I turned 64 this month and while I am always the last person to remember
>> my own birthdays (family and friends generally remind me), I did rather
>> hilariously recall a song that I'd first learned about this time in 1968,
>> after visitors left the Sgt. Pepper's album behind for us kids after their
>> visit: "When I'm 64." I remember rather liking the song and thinking that
>> age 64 was a kind of legendary thing, like the lost continent of Atlantis
>> or just and efficient government. (Actually, the government thought came
>> later.) But here I am. Note that I was a very enthusiastic and ignorant
>> cyclist, already engaged in chronic upgrading, in spring 1969.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTunqv1Xt4
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And
>> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the
>> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
>> --- J.R.R. Tolkien
>> ---
>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews
>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching
>> Other professional writing services
>> Expensive! But good.
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
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though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the
hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[REC (Roberta)]

Both unusual (the cockpit, now that I know what that group is called) and 
beautiful and the same time.  I hope you love it for a long while.  

My first ride on James' $4500 MUSA Atlantis 2 1/2  years ago was what let 
me know that a Rivendell is for me.  It's a great ride.

Roberta

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 3:56:00 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

> ...from James and Candice at Analog Cycles, and it's cool as a cool thing! 
>
> 53cm 650B 
>
> WI Mi5 rear hub, Schmidt SON dyno front, Cliffhanger rims with excellent 
> black spokes and gold nipples, Paul gold with black center skewers, 
> Simworks Homage tires. 
>   
> Sugino cranks, XT and CX70 derailers, 12-36 9 Shimano cassette, Whipperman 
> nickel chain. 
>
> Analog (w)Right O° stem, Nitto RM-3 bar, Cane Creek levers, Shimano 
> 9-speed bar-ends on IRD mounts, cool black and gold Bombshell v-brakes, 
> stock Riv (can't remember) post, ti B17. 
>
> Simworks by Honjo fenders, Nitto Mark's and R14 (?) racks, black. Herrmans 
> headlight, B Secula taillight, both wired to the hub.   
>
> It looks weirdly different from how I picture an Atlantis should look, and 
> I dig the weirdness. Rides like a Riv, they all ride amazing: That thing 
> where there's no acclimation, you just pedal and go. 
>
> The cockpit is *definitely* weird and threw me off at first, but it was 
> crazy comfortable on my first shortish ride. I need to drop the bars a 
> smidge tomorrow, which is complicated by the wedge bolt being under the 
> bars. Not awesome during the "make adjustments to the riding position" 
> period of new bike ownership, but that's the only time it matters. 
>
> I've always wanted an Atlantis and have gone through just about every 
> other Riv to get here. I like it!   
>
> Joe Bernard 
> Marin County CA. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Spring! And riding for fun! And 20th anniversary! And ...!

[REC (Roberta)]

The ride was a wonderful way to celebrate your birthday month.  Happy 
birthday.

Although not a big Beatles fan, I really enjoyed the your tube link.  Thank 
you.

Roberta

On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 5:07:05 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

> Beautiful high desert spring day, 73*, winds modest and discrete at 6 
> gusts to 7 from SW (and this is our windy season!), cerulean blue skies 
> with a few child's picture book puffy clouds, pollen count low, and I work 
> for myself and thus can with good conscience take a break and go for a 
> ride. Total of 19 miles this afternoon including side trips.
>
> The Joe Starck custom 26" wheeled gofast turns 20 in April; what a long 
> strange trip it's been, too. Last year Chauncey Matthews replaced the 
> original OEM "short horizontals" with *long* horizontals, and added st 
> cage bosses; the longer dropouts accommodate the 15 t cruising gear but 
> will accept a 12 t for the S3X if I decide to use it (95/71/59), and also 
> accepts a 17/20 Dingle on the flip side of the Phil, for 76/67/57.
>
> I have to say that, because I ride principally for fun, and because this 
> bike is just more delightful than any of my other bikes, including the 
> almost-as-delightful 2003 Curt which turned 16 this month, and the also 
> very delightful Matthews road-bike-for-dirt -- it just feels so light and 
> deft and responsive, not to mention comfortable -- the other bikes are also 
> comfortable.
>
> I turned 64 this month and while I am always the last person to remember 
> my own birthdays (family and friends generally remind me), I did rather 
> hilariously recall a song that I'd first learned about this time in 1968, 
> after visitors left the Sgt. Pepper's album behind for us kids after their 
> visit: "When I'm 64." I remember rather liking the song and thinking that 
> age 64 was a kind of legendary thing, like the lost continent of Atlantis 
> or just and efficient government. (Actually, the government thought came 
> later.) But here I am. Note that I was a very enthusiastic and ignorant 
> cyclist, already engaged in chronic upgrading, in spring 1969.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTunqv1Xt4
>
>
>
> -- 
>
>
>
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And 
> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the 
> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
> --- J.R.R. Tolkien
> ---
> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews
> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching
> Other professional writing services
> Expensive! But good.
> http://www.resumespecialties.com/
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
>
>

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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Mark Schneider]

Nice Joe, I really like the look of the build, will be interested in 
hearing your detailed review. 

Have fun
Mark

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 12:56:00 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> ...from James and Candice at Analog Cycles, and it's cool as a cool thing! 
>
> 53cm 650B 
>
> WI Mi5 rear hub, Schmidt SON dyno front, Cliffhanger rims with excellent 
> black spokes and gold nipples, Paul gold with black center skewers, 
> Simworks Homage tires. 
>   
> Sugino cranks, XT and CX70 derailers, 12-36 9 Shimano cassette, Whipperman 
> nickel chain. 
>
> Analog (w)Right O° stem, Nitto RM-3 bar, Cane Creek levers, Shimano 
> 9-speed bar-ends on IRD mounts, cool black and gold Bombshell v-brakes, 
> stock Riv (can't remember) post, ti B17. 
>
> Simworks by Honjo fenders, Nitto Mark's and R14 (?) racks, black. Herrmans 
> headlight, B Secula taillight, both wired to the hub.   
>
> It looks weirdly different from how I picture an Atlantis should look, and 
> I dig the weirdness. Rides like a Riv, they all ride amazing: That thing 
> where there's no acclimation, you just pedal and go. 
>
> The cockpit is *definitely* weird and threw me off at first, but it was 
> crazy comfortable on my first shortish ride. I need to drop the bars a 
> smidge tomorrow, which is complicated by the wedge bolt being under the 
> bars. Not awesome during the "make adjustments to the riding position" 
> period of new bike ownership, but that's the only time it matters. 
>
> I've always wanted an Atlantis and have gone through just about every 
> other Riv to get here. I like it!   
>
> Joe Bernard 
> Marin County CA. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 650b Son hub, Gran Bois rim, Lumotec IQ Cyo N Plus, 32 spoke wheel

[Frank Brose]

*SALE PENDING*

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 6:16:03 AM UTC-5, Frank Brose wrote:
>
> For Sale. Dyno front wheel. Professionally built. With Lumotec light. Very 
> good condition. Wheel has a few very light scrapes and scratches but the 
> braking surface is clean. Mileage is low as I generally rode my Riv 
> Atlantis when I was going to be in the dark.I really don't need two dyno 
> powered bikes.  Best guess is less than 350 miles. Asking $315 net to me 
> I'll cover the shipping in the CONUS.
>
> - Schmidt SON 20 R 32h silver front hub
> - Grand Bois 650B 32h rims
> - DT Swiss Competition DB spoke
> - Lumotec IQ Cyo N Plus uncut wire with spades attachched. I can send some 
> xtra spades the buyer needs some and wants to cut the wires to their 
> preferred length.
> - This setup has never been ridden in the rain.
>
> For the record the Son 20 R is now referred to as a Delux. They were 
> renamed due to German law. Here's the story per Peter White and he would 
> know:
>
>  Schmidt changed the name of the SON20R to SON*delux*. Skip this 
> paragraph if you aren't interested in German bicycle lighting regulations. 
> ;-) The reason for the name change is a bit complicated. German law 
> regulating bicycle lighting is very strict. A dynamo powered headlight must 
> reach a certain brightness at a certain minimum speed. If you use a hub 
> designed for 20" wheels to make a wheel with a 700c rim, that wheel will be 
> rotating at a slower RPM at a given speed than the same hub in a 20" wheel, 
> so the hub's output will be lower. With a halogen bulb headlight, the light 
> would not reach the minimum required brightness until you were going faster 
> than the law requires. But with LED headlights such as the Schmidt Edelux, 
> Busch & Müller CYO and others, this isn't a problem. You can use a hub 
> designed for 20" wheels in a 700c wheel and the light will be very bright 
> at low speeds. Previously, it was illegal under German law for Schmidt to 
> sell the SON20R in Germany for use in 700c wheels. But the law has been 
> changed, provided the customer also buys a LED headlight. So now, Schmidt 
> can sell the SON20R for use with 700c rims, as long as the wheel is used to 
> power certain LED headlights that produce high output with very little 
> power. So there's no longer any need to call the hub a "SON20R", implying 
> it's only suitable for 20" and smaller wheels. Hence, the name change to SON
> *delux*.
>
> Please contact me off list.
> Thanks,
> Frank
>

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[RBW] wtb: Sugino XD2 - Wide/low double 40t x 26t (170mm)

[Eric]

Looking to buy a new or used Sugino XD2 - wide/low double. 

Thanks! 

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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[Brett Callahan]

Joe, it's a beauty. I dig the mix of black and silver used in the build. I 
have the same fenders in silver on another bike and like them a lot. They 
look terrific with those tires and wheels. Let us know how you like that 
stem after you've put a few miles on it, please. Enjoy it!

Brett, pdx

>
>

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[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

[eddietheflay]

not a ton of time on the ones I recently installed, but so far smooth and 
steady:

http://www.diacompe.com.tw/product/ene-w-shift-lever/

On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 1:08:06 PM UTC-7, PaulS wrote:
>
> I am looking for a set of downtube shifters for my Hunq. Mated to a 3x9-sp 
> Mountain drive train (in case they are both index and friction). What’s a 
> decent set? 
>
> I’ve had Riv Silver in the past. However, I could not get the shifter to 
> stay tight and in gear. I really had to crank on the wing nut to keep it 
> from loosening up. I even contacted Riv and all they suggested was getting 
> some Nord-lock washers. Which I had a hard time finding them in the right 
> size and gave up. 
>
> Any other suggestions?   

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[RBW] Re: aluminum under front derailleur clamp

[Jeremy Till]

As Laing says, those are shims used to adapt front derailleurs with larger 
clamps to narrower seat tubes. If your derailleur is properly matched to the 
tube I wouldn't recommend using anything under it, just be judicious when 
tightening the clamp bolt.

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Re: [RBW] I got a MIT Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, long wheelbase. As the Riv copy states, it's pretty much the same bike as 
Appaloosa. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 2 Gus Boots For Sale on Riv Site

[PaulS]

On my old mountain bike, I had 29+ set up with Stans Flow rims (23mm 
internal) and 29x3" tires.  No issues down to about 17psi riding 
aggressively on the trail.  I don't think there would be any issue unless 
you were well down in the low-teens.

On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 11:06:08 PM UTC-6, Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
> Ah, I see I am not the only ed obsessing over narrow non-disc rims with 
> 27.5+ tires...
>
> The Cliffhanger has an interior width of 25mm. The bike came stock with 
> Cliffhangers and 2.8" G-One Allrounders, so my guess is folks on the board 
> who've demoed this Gus at Riv and had All-Rounders also had the same rim. I 
> did a casual road ride with that setup with no issues, though I do worry if 
> I do anything on the trails the tires would get squirmy. I was monitoring 
> the GBW thread and that seemed to be a consensus opinion.
>
> Would be curious to hear about from GBW owners on what riding the 
> aggressively was like. (Sadly, I won't get a chance to do that anytime 
> soon, otherwise I'd report on it.) Also appreciate any leads on a 650b rim 
> with a brake track and an internal width closer to 30mm...
>
>
> --Ed C.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 7:23:22 PM UTC-7, ed wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ed!,
>> Would you mind sharing the rim size of the Cliffhanger of your GBW?
>> Thanks :-)
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 10:00 AM Ed Carolipio  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had/have (still packing it for sale) a 51cm Joe. I got the Small GBW 
>>> prototype and adjusted it into "commuter mode" recently. Key build 
>>> differences with the Joe vs GBW: 55cm Albas with a 9cm Nitto Technomic stem 
>>> vs 710mm Jones Loop with a 30mm Spank stem; 2.0" Marathon Supremes on VO 
>>> Diagonales vs 2.35" G-One Speeds on Velocity Cliffhangers; and Sugino XD600 
>>> cranks vs Silver cranks. Everything else is roughly the same, and I ride 
>>> the same urban, all pavement route with the same load to work.
>>>
>>> The one sentence summary on the GBW: there's no mistaking it's a 
>>> mountain bike. It may have a rack and notionally street tires, but the ride 
>>> rhymes with all the mountain bikes I've owned. I read all of that Mongolian 
>>> riding stuff that Grant wrote about and thought, yeah, sure, Grant, 
>>> whatever, you're the crazy man riding into chest deep pools of water in 
>>> your Ethiopian shoes, but after riding the GBW I kinda get what he's 
>>> saying. 
>>>
>>> I also like the swoopy top tube since I can mount the bike without 
>>> having to swing my leg over the seat and standover is one less thing to 
>>> worry about when the terrain gets uneven or when tackling a challenging 
>>> part of a trail.
>>>
>>> For me, I picked the GBW over the Joe because I wanted a mountain bike 
>>> that I could commute with during the week, and I like the ride of fat 
>>> tires. The GBW will likely outshine the Joe on single track while lightly 
>>> loaded, while the Joe would outperform the GBW when hauling a load or 
>>> pounding out miles on maintained gravel roads.
>>>
>>>
>>> --Ed C.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 11:31:38 AM UTC-7, Jonathan D. wrote:

 Thoughts on how the Gus’ ride will compare to the Joe and Atlantis?  I 
 don’t have a sense of the geometry differences beyond the fat whee 
 options. 
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[RBW] Re: Friction down tube shifters

[Ron Mc]

Matching cable pull is everything.  The very best I have with long cable 
pull are Campy Chorus.  The best I have with short cable pull are Campy 
Victory

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[RBW] Re: aluminum under front derailleur clamp

[lconley]

The shims are usually used to put a 31.8 derailleur on a 28.6 seat tube. 
(or a 28.6 derailleur onto a French 28.0 seat tube) Some manufacturers 
include shims with the derailleur. I used a cut down handlebar shim (26 - 
25.4) to put a Campagnolo derailleur on a Gitane.

Laing
Cocoa, FL


On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 8:27:20 AM UTC-4, jandrews wrote:

> Hi
> I often see some bits of aluminum underneath the front derailleur clamp 
> to presumably act as a soft shim to keep the seat tube from being 
> crimped due to over tightening of the clamp?.
> I crimped a seat tube before in the past and want to avoid that on my new 
> Appaloosa build.
> where does one find this stuff?  Is it a tape? or just strips of aluminum 
> that are cut to fit in the clamp?
> Thanks
>
>

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Re: [RBW] I got a MIT Atlantis

[Patrick Moore]

Congrats. This is one of the new long wheelbase ones, right? I'll be
interested to see what the final build and setup looks like.

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 1:56 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> ...from James and Candice at Analog Cycles, and it's cool as a cool thing!
>
> 53cm 650B
>
> WI Mi5 rear hub, Schmidt SON dyno front, Cliffhanger rims with excellent
> black spokes and gold nipples, Paul gold with black center skewers,
> Simworks Homage tires.
>
> Sugino cranks, XT and CX70 derailers, 12-36 9 Shimano cassette, Whipperman
> nickel chain.
>
> Analog (w)Right O° stem, Nitto RM-3 bar, Cane Creek levers, Shimano
> 9-speed bar-ends on IRD mounts, cool black and gold Bombshell v-brakes,
> stock Riv (can't remember) post, ti B17.
>
> Simworks by Honjo fenders, Nitto Mark's and R14 (?) racks, black. Herrmans
> headlight, B Secula taillight, both wired to the hub.
>
> It looks weirdly different from how I picture an Atlantis should look, and
> I dig the weirdness. Rides like a Riv, they all ride amazing: That thing
> where there's no acclimation, you just pedal and go.
>
> The cockpit is *definitely* weird and threw me off at first, but it was
> crazy comfortable on my first shortish ride. I need to drop the bars a
> smidge tomorrow, which is complicated by the wedge bolt being under the
> bars. Not awesome during the "make adjustments to the riding position"
> period of new bike ownership, but that's the only time it matters.
>
> I've always wanted an Atlantis and have gone through just about every
> other Riv to get here. I like it!
>
> Joe Bernard
> Marin County CA.
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[RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis

[RDS]

Beautiful bike.  Thanks for all the info that you have provided me in email 
exchanges as it is so helpful.

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 3:56:00 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> ...from James and Candice at Analog Cycles, and it's cool as a cool thing! 
>
> 53cm 650B 
>
> WI Mi5 rear hub, Schmidt SON dyno front, Cliffhanger rims with excellent 
> black spokes and gold nipples, Paul gold with black center skewers, 
> Simworks Homage tires. 
>   
> Sugino cranks, XT and CX70 derailers, 12-36 9 Shimano cassette, Whipperman 
> nickel chain. 
>
> Analog (w)Right O° stem, Nitto RM-3 bar, Cane Creek levers, Shimano 
> 9-speed bar-ends on IRD mounts, cool black and gold Bombshell v-brakes, 
> stock Riv (can't remember) post, ti B17. 
>
> Simworks by Honjo fenders, Nitto Mark's and R14 (?) racks, black. Herrmans 
> headlight, B Secula taillight, both wired to the hub.   
>
> It looks weirdly different from how I picture an Atlantis should look, and 
> I dig the weirdness. Rides like a Riv, they all ride amazing: That thing 
> where there's no acclimation, you just pedal and go. 
>
> The cockpit is *definitely* weird and threw me off at first, but it was 
> crazy comfortable on my first shortish ride. I need to drop the bars a 
> smidge tomorrow, which is complicated by the wedge bolt being under the 
> bars. Not awesome during the "make adjustments to the riding position" 
> period of new bike ownership, but that's the only time it matters. 
>
> I've always wanted an Atlantis and have gone through just about every 
> other Riv to get here. I like it!   
>
> Joe Bernard 
> Marin County CA. 
>
>

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[RBW] aluminum under front derailleur clamp

[jandrews]

Hi
I often see some bits of aluminum underneath the front derailleur clamp 
to presumably act as a soft shim to keep the seat tube from being 
crimped due to over tightening of the clamp?.
I crimped a seat tube before in the past and want to avoid that on my new 
Appaloosa build.
where does one find this stuff?  Is it a tape? or just strips of aluminum 
that are cut to fit in the clamp?
Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 2 Gus Boots For Sale on Riv Site

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

As others here, I wondered about the rim issue. My conclusion is it really is a 
near non-issue. Would a wider rim brake rim be ideal? Sure. But the 
squirrliness people fear isn’t that big a deal. The Cliffhanger rims are 
recommended for up to 65mm tires, that’s 2.6” (2.56” to be exact, which tire 
lables generally are not). I have no problem because 1. I trust Grant; 2. MTB 
tires used to squeeze onto amazingly small rims before the industry widened 
them; 3. I would rather the ride of a lighter fork than disk brakes, and there 
aren’t better brake options out there. It’s amazing what a lighter fork 
absorbes, and can be easily seen to do so on washboard roads (I don’t recommend 
trying this on the bike you’re riding on technical trail. Grin.).

Tire sizes: I believe all frame sizes are 650b/27.5 except the XL. My Large is 
27.5, the Medium on the web special page is, and Ed’s Small is too.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] FS 650b Son hub, Gran Bois rim, Lumotec IQ Cyo N Plus, 32 spoke wheel

[Frank Brose]

For Sale. Dyno front wheel. Professionally built. With Lumotec light. Very 
good condition. Wheel has a few very light scrapes and scratches but the 
braking surface is clean. Mileage is low as I generally rode my Riv 
Atlantis when I was going to be in the dark.I really don't need two dyno 
powered bikes.  Best guess is less than 350 miles. Asking $315 net to me 
I'll cover the shipping in the CONUS.

- Schmidt SON 20 R 32h silver front hub
- Grand Bois 650B 32h rims
- DT Swiss Competition DB spoke
- Lumotec IQ Cyo N Plus uncut wire with spades attachched. I can send some 
xtra spades the buyer needs some and wants to cut the wires to their 
preferred length.
- This setup has never been ridden in the rain.

For the record the Son 20 R is now referred to as a Delux. They were 
renamed due to German law. Here's the story per Peter White and he would 
know:

 Schmidt changed the name of the SON20R to SON*delux*. Skip this paragraph 
if you aren't interested in German bicycle lighting regulations. ;-) The 
reason for the name change is a bit complicated. German law regulating 
bicycle lighting is very strict. A dynamo powered headlight must reach a 
certain brightness at a certain minimum speed. If you use a hub designed 
for 20" wheels to make a wheel with a 700c rim, that wheel will be rotating 
at a slower RPM at a given speed than the same hub in a 20" wheel, so the 
hub's output will be lower. With a halogen bulb headlight, the light would 
not reach the minimum required brightness until you were going faster than 
the law requires. But with LED headlights such as the Schmidt Edelux, Busch 
& Müller CYO and others, this isn't a problem. You can use a hub designed 
for 20" wheels in a 700c wheel and the light will be very bright at low 
speeds. Previously, it was illegal under German law for Schmidt to sell the 
SON20R in Germany for use in 700c wheels. But the law has been changed, 
provided the customer also buys a LED headlight. So now, Schmidt can sell 
the SON20R for use with 700c rims, as long as the wheel is used to power 
certain LED headlights that produce high output with very little power. So 
there's no longer any need to call the hub a "SON20R", implying it's only 
suitable for 20" and smaller wheels. Hence, the name change to SON*delux*.

Please contact me off list.
Thanks,
Frank

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[RBW] Re: Stockholm/Amsterdam/Copenhagen recommendations/meet-ups?

[Surlyprof]

In all places you can get some great suggestions on the New York Times’ “36 
hours in ” columns and videos.  We also like Atlas Obscura 
and Lonely Planet.

Those Dam Boat Guys give a fun tour in Amsterdam 
(https://www.thosedamboatguys.com/your-tour/?gclid=CjwKCAjwm-fkBRBBEiwA966fZPJT6Ml6dFM2Emhs7TpoRtfqmQ9q9YZkFCREcN_PgB6wp6zf-BTP5xoCYQYQAvD_BwE).
We really enjoyed a tour of the hidden catholic church.  There were several 
during the Protestant Reformation and this one was the only one saved and 
restored.  Ons Lieve Heer op Solder or Our Dear Lord in the Attic.  It was 
fascinating.
The Foodhallen is great but a bit of a hike.  Also really enjoyed the apple pie 
at Winkel 43.  Very traditional I guess.
I also vote for the Rijksmuseum and Van Gogh Museum.  
The Frozen Fountain and Droog Galleries are cool (and free) for really 
interesting Dutch Design.
Spend a little time watching the clocks by Maarten Baas.  One’s at the 
Rijkuseum and there’s a really big one at the airport. Fun stuff.
If you bike, get a map out to the windmills.  They’re not that far.  We took a 
bike tour that took us out to the windmills and a cheese factory where they 
also made wooden shoes.  Fun tour on Breezers. Mike’s Bike Tours.  Mike’s a 
very funny woman who rides in 4” heels!

Copenhagen is my favorite city.  Get a cinnamon roll at Meyer Bagheri (bakery). 
 They ground their own flour.  Watch for the royal guards marching through the 
streets when they do the changing of the guard at the palace.  The Design 
Museum is one of the world’s best.  Check out the bike bridge (Circle Bridge) 
designed by Olafur Elliasson.  It’s beautiful.  Their foodhall market is also 
great.  They had one place called Grod totally dedicated to porridge!  We had 
an outstanding meal at Almanak in the art deco Standard Building by the water.  
Their house beer was the best I’ve ever had and they have trampolines in the 
sidewalk outside.
We also really enjoyed Leibkoeb, a cocktail bar in a 16th century apothecary 
building.  Hard to find but well worth looking.  We also got a kick out of the 
meatpacking district.  They still pack meat there but it also houses a lot of 
creatives’ studios.  We had a fun conversation with a fashion designer, Jenni 
Max (I think).  IKEA’s experimental, Space10, research and design lab’s there.  
Mothers pizzaria was nice there, too.
Kronborg Castle was really interesting.  It’s where Hamlet is set.
Freetown Christiania Is pretty wild.  There is also a Pedersen dealer there.  
Take the no photography warnings seriously there.  The drug dealers are very 
camera shy!
Jens Olsen’s World Clock is incredible.  
Normann Copenhagen is a great furniture/design store in an old theater.
Spring should be a great time to stroll through Tivoli Gardens.
Saw some cool bike shops.  Sogreni was the most unique.

Probably forgetting as many things as I’m remembering.  Have a great trip!

John

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