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What rims were on the Gus? Cliffhanger? 

Contemplating putting down for a Gus myself. 

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[RBW] Re: Reccomendation for a car rack

2019-11-18 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles

I would really recommend reconsidering a hitch rack. Easier to install, secure, 
no paint rub/marks on the car, and they perform so much better. 
One big issue you may run into is locking your bike. With a hitch rack, it’s 
easy to do. My rack came with integrated locks. Others, just cable lock to the 
hitch. 
Also, if you have a step through bike (now or in the future), you’ll need a 
tray style rack. 

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

Paul, I'm 99% certain that's right.  They would certainly be a good choice 
for this bike.  Also, a less fancy/expensive non-MUSA choice would be an 
Alex DM25.

On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 8:57:57 AM UTC-5, PaulS wrote:
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> What rims were on the Gus? Cliffhanger? 
>
> Contemplating putting down for a Gus myself. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles

How was the Bb height compared to the ECR (which already has a low low BB). I’m 
sure it added to the feeling of stability as you said in the blog. Wondering 
how this bike would feel with 2.2” tires. If that would drop the BB too much. 

Great write up, by the way. 

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

Yes, Paul. Cliffhanger rims. (I bought the prototype Alex test rode). They 
are plenty wide (you may want to read Jan's take on rim width being a near 
non-issue in terms of squirmyness.).

With abandon,
Patrick



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> What rims were on the Gus? Cliffhanger? 
>
> Contemplating putting down for a Gus myself. 
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[RBW] Various Gus Boots Willsen Protobike Photos

2019-11-18 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

To aid those curious about GBW, here are various photos and adventures from 
my 9 months of riding.

New Bike Day:
https://deaconpatrick.org/new-bike-day

Spring Snow:
https://deaconpatrick.org/spring-snow

Riding Kings Crown Easter Morn
https://deaconpatrick.org/riding-kings-crown-easter-morn

I get a Grip while the Aspen Bloom
https://deaconpatrick.org/i-get-a-grip-while-the-aspen-bloom

Two Midsummer Nights Dream Bikepacking Pikes Peak
https://deaconpatrick.org/two-midsummer-nights-dream-bikepacking-pikes-peak

Three Days, Three States, Three Countries by Beorn the Bikepacking Wonder
https://deaconpatrick.org/three-days-three-states-three-countries-by-beorn-the-bikepacking-wonder

Photo Gallery of other photos (these are new to the group, the others I've 
posted before):
https://snap.as/deaconpatrick/gus-boots-willsen-protobike

Enjoy! With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

Deacon Patrick, you Wile E. Coyote.  I thought that might have been you.  When 
I tried to convince Riv it would make more sense to just let me ship that bike 
home, they indicated it was already spoken for.  Outsmarted by another 
enthusiast 🙃

Paul, I won’t pretend to be able to make an educated response to that question. 
Comparing the bb drop of my demo with 27.5 wheels to the 29r ECR is beyond my 
ability.  I will however say that Grant likely thought all that through to the 
‘nth degree.

To boot, I don’t think I have an accurate geometry table for that demo model I 
rode.

Cheers,

Alex

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!


The Geometry page has been updated with Susie and Gus !

https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry


Myself I'll likely go with the Alex DM24 rims and T610 hubs from Rich@Riv 
as I don't ride tubeless and the Cliffhanger's tubeless design can be 
difficult to mount/dismount tires, according to a talk w/Vince.  That's 
what the possible new rim is about, tubeless capable but easier get tires 
on and off. They won't be available anytime soon though, "if" at all. 

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Chris L

Definately a trail bike!  70mm of BB drop for a 29 x 2.8 tire!



On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 9:47:15 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
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>
> The Geometry page has been updated with Susie and Gus !
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>
>
> Myself I'll likely go with the Alex DM24 rims and T610 hubs from Rich@Riv 
> as I don't ride tubeless and the Cliffhanger's tubeless design can be 
> difficult to mount/dismount tires, according to a talk w/Vince.  That's 
> what the possible new rim is about, tubeless capable but easier get tires 
> on and off. They won't be available anytime soon though, "if" at all. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

I can confirm the tubeless madness with Cliffhangers. My 27.5 set came (used) 
with tubeless tires mounted and one time I let the air get too low..can't get 
the front to seal up again. Now I've switched to bigger WTB Byways and they 
won't tubeless, either, I bought tubes. I give up!  

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Bill Lindsay

What size compressor were you using when you tried to seat tires on your 
Cliffhanger rims without tubes?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 8:13:18 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I can confirm the tubeless madness with Cliffhangers. My 27.5 set came 
> (used) with tubeless tires mounted and one time I let the air get too 
> low..can't get the front to seal up again. Now I've switched to bigger WTB 
> Byways and they won't tubeless, either, I bought tubes. I give up!  

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

No compressor. I gave mine away because the neighbors and the cat weren't 
impressed with the amazing amount of noise; if I can't pump a tire with a good 
floor pump then I'm dealing with something outside the range of how I 
understand working on bicycles. 

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

Thanks Alex. I forgot the original was 27.5, not 29. 

70mm BB drop isn’t bad at all. 2.2” tires should work very well on it. I know 
some complain about the low BB on the ECR but I love it. Just watch the pedals 
riding through rock gardens. No issues. 

Tubeless is simple. Good rim tape (Stans or Scotch equivalent) and you’re good 
to go. If the rim is being stubborn, use the split tubeless method. Works even 
on non-tubeless specific rims. 

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[RBW] Preorder For Gus & Susie is Up

2019-11-18 Thread Charlie R

At age 71, Susie is my 6th and probably last Rivendell bike purchase...

Charlie

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

What is split tubeless?

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

https://youtu.be/Omj1_-TNovg

Start at 2:20. No need for the camping mattress garbage (more beneficial for 
fat bikes). Just rim tape and tube over it. I don’t inflate it prior to cutting 
like this guy. Just cut down the middle, wash off the powder, spray with soapy 
water, mount tire and inflate. Done. 

Make sure to get a tube with removable core. ie Q Tubes, and I think 
Specialized. 

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles

Thanks! Now back to your regularly scheduled thread, sorry for the tubeless 
hijack 🙋‍♂️

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!



I scored an orange Susie!!

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Wally Estrella

On-the-fence? Yes, indeed I was.  Off-the-fence now.  And standing on the 
metalic green side of the pasture with an XL Gus!


On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 7:18:48 AM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Last winter I had about a week on a Gus Boots Willsen.  Here's the 
> blogI think it'll help if you're in the market or on-the-fence.
>
> http://www.yellow.haus/blaaag
>
> Cheers,
> Alex in Rochester, NY
>

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[RBW] Re: Various Gus Boots Willsen Protobike Photos

2019-11-18 Thread Wally Estrella

Links, Gusses and Bear (headbadge), OH MY!




On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 10:34:21 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> To aid those curious about GBW, here are various photos and adventures 
> from my 9 months of riding.
>
> New Bike Day:
> https://deaconpatrick.org/new-bike-day
>
> Spring Snow:
> https://deaconpatrick.org/spring-snow
>
> Riding Kings Crown Easter Morn
> https://deaconpatrick.org/riding-kings-crown-easter-morn
>
> I get a Grip while the Aspen Bloom
> https://deaconpatrick.org/i-get-a-grip-while-the-aspen-bloom
>
> Two Midsummer Nights Dream Bikepacking Pikes Peak
> https://deaconpatrick.org/two-midsummer-nights-dream-bikepacking-pikes-peak
>
> Three Days, Three States, Three Countries by Beorn the Bikepacking Wonder
>
> https://deaconpatrick.org/three-days-three-states-three-countries-by-beorn-the-bikepacking-wonder
>
> Photo Gallery of other photos (these are new to the group, the others I've 
> posted before):
> https://snap.as/deaconpatrick/gus-boots-willsen-protobike
>
> Enjoy! With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!


  Me too Alex . Bright Sun shiney popsicley ORANGE    Now all I 
need is some warmth with the Sun  Oh Summer where are you ?   





On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
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>
>
> I scored an orange Susie!!
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus impressions!

2019-11-18 Thread Laing Conley

Green Gus – 54. Now I need to unlace the 48 spoke 700c Chukker rims from my 48 
spoke 9 sp Phil/SON hubs and lace the polished 48 spoke 650b Cliffhangers on 
(special ordered these a while ago in anticipation). Let the parts 
reconfigurations begin!

Laing
Delray Beach FL




From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Garth
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:39 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Gus/Susie presale is live this morning! New blog on Gus 
impressions!


  Me too Alex . Bright Sun shiney popsicley ORANGE    Now all I need is 
some warmth with the Sun  Oh Summer where are you ?  





On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 12:27:07 PM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:


I scored an orange Susie!!
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[RBW] Re: compatibility question: double FD on triple

2019-11-18 Thread James / Analog Cycles

Best wide range triple for rings under 46t out there is the Shimano CX70, 
which Riv used to spec on completes.  It still works great.  Ultegra level, 
but technically designed for a CX bike.  You can get it lower than any road 
triple mech out there, and it will shift down to a 20t.  We've run it was a 
triple or a double set up, never any issues at all.  It can handle huge 
gear jumps, or normal ones.  We set up a bike with a 20-46t jump, and it 
shifted fine.  

-james / analog cycles

On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 8:57:52 AM UTC-5, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> Greetings, 
>
> Curious if the group thinks this on-sale Claris "double" front derailleur 
> would work well with a Riv Silver 44/34/24 triple crankset on a Clem L?
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/garage-sales-parts/products/claris-double-front-derailleur
>
> In my experience, cranksets with smaller large chainwheels don't always 
> require a "triple" derailleur with such a big cage.
> thank you
>

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[RBW] Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch

Can anyone speak to the practical difference riding between the choco and 
choco-moose bars?  I've read the description on the Rivendell site but am 
curious to hear from others.  I've recently switched from a drop bar Sam to 
a Clem L with a bosco bar and assume the choco would be somewhere in the 
middle (it would be for an Appaloosa).  For some reason I find the 
choco-moose bars to be more aesthetically pleasing than the plain choco 
bars.

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[RBW] Re: tubeless tire repair & maint Q

2019-11-18 Thread James / Analog Cycles

Here's a set up guide I wrote:  
https://www.analogcycles.com/true-facts-components/analogs-tubeless-set-up-guide/
And a maintenance guide:  
https://www.analogcycles.com/true-facts-components/tubeless-maintainence-repairs/
and for folks just getting started, a parts guide:  
https://www.analogcycles.com/tubeless-component-selection/

Hope that helps a bit.

-james / analog cycles

On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 11:11:05 AM UTC-5, ted wrote:
>
> I would like some advice on tubeless tire "best practices" please.
> I've recently started riding with tubeless tires (wtb byways) after 
> decades of riding with tubes (and tubulars).
> Though I understand the tubeless setup should be immune to pinch flats, 
> goat heads, wire bits, staples, glass shards etc. worse things can happen. 
> So for now I'm still carrying two tubes, levers, etc. and a frame pump. But 
> I wonder, do most folks just trust in the sealant and leave the repair kit 
> at home? Is one tube plenty? Do folks carry tire plugs on rides? If folks 
> carry plugs do they carry extra sealant in case too much escapes through a 
> big whole prior to installing a plug?
> Also how about periodic sealant checking? How often is prudent? Does one 
> pull the valve core and use a wire as a dip stick to do this? How deep 
> should the sealant be? Should one do a first check fairly soon after 
> initial setup and then go to less frequent checks, or just always check 
> every ?? months?
> TIA
> ted
>

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-11-18 Thread ScaD

Nice!  Is that Stanley Park?  I rode that a couple weeks ago, but with a 
rental e-assist bike.  Wish I had my Hillbourne for it, I felt like I was 
blowing past all the views and scenery.  

On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 9:23:21 PM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> A couple snaps from today's ride up to one of Vancouver's best public 
> gardens, at the top of one of the biggest hills. I really enjoy spending 
> time here. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Weston Hein

The Gus and Susie are showing up for me on the Geometries and Sizing page 
on Riv's site. Looks like 71.5 degree seat tube angles and 69 degree head 
tube across the whole size range. I really appreciate them posting this!

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Re: [RBW] Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch

I can see Leah’s perspective on the names, but I have to agree with Paul that 
it should be exactly the bike he wants.  I understand completely as for some 
reason I do not particularly care for the name Atlantis so am waiting for a Joe 
Appaloosa (I prefer the head badge as well) although I think simply Appaloosa 
would be better.  Silly reasons to prefer one over the other, but when 
committing a large amount of money, why not?  I do think the single word names 
are better-it’s hard to beat Hunqapillar or Cheviot.  For what it’s worth, I’m 
just finishing building my new Clem L.

> On Nov 16, 2019, at 6:45 PM, PaulS  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Wolbis Slugstone. 
> 
> Yes, all funky names. Just don’t want Susie on the side of the bike. What’s 
> wrong with that? Why are people getting defensive? That’s just my preference. 
> If that were the ONLY bike I was after that had inimitable features I 
> absolutely must have, then sure. I’ll buy it. But there are many other 
> choices. 
> 
> On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 2:50:39 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Paul, there's another name on the other side of Susie. Wolbis? I can't 
>> remember..
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[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Andy Beichler

I found the draft brochure on Grant's blahg and magnified it enough to read 
that he did not want to publicize the numbers because people make ill 
informed decisions based on them. I can understand that but if/when I pay 
$1600 for a frame I have never seen in person, I need something to base it 
on.  I appreciate you post that link. It is helpful.


On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 12:45:35 PM UTC-5, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> Rivendell has made it a specific point to not post the geometry. I think 
> there was a diagram with numbers leaked but retracted at one point, but not 
> 100% sure on that. Rivelo just posted this info on their blog, which at 
> least gives the top tube dimensions. It also introduces yet another version 
> of the PBH range chart for each size that doesn't match previously posted 
> charts.
>
> http://www.rivelopdx.com/blog/2019/11/17/83pxriewy1hast2um9lep4qs34y70h
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 11:16:51 AM UTC-5, Andy Beichler wrote:
>>
>> Is there a brochure yet where I can look at geometry, etc? I like the 
>> looks of the Gus (way too heavy for the Susie) better than most bikes these 
>> days and wonder if it would make a good all rounder.
>>
>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Andy Beichler

Thanks, Patrick.  I really like the looks of this frame.

On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 1:03:43 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Andy asked if Gus would make a good all rounder. Yes. Absolutely.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 9:16:51 AM UTC-7, Andy Beichler wrote:
>>
>> Is there a brochure yet where I can look at geometry, etc? I like the 
>> looks of the Gus (way too heavy for the Susie) better than most bikes these 
>> days and wonder if it would make a good all rounder.
>>
>> On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 7:05:14 AM UTC-5, David Wadstrup wrote:
>>>
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m seriously considering buying one of Rivendell’s forthcoming 
>>> Hillibikes and am having a difficult time deciding between the Gus and 
>>> Susie.  Would you mind weighing in with your opinion? So far, I’ve got 1 
>>> vote for the Gus, 2 for the Susie. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] 59 Clem L

2019-11-18 Thread Christopher Murray

And another $200 off with the email promo! 

Do it! 

Cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Leah Peterson

I hear that, Keith, I do. It’s a lot of money and a person should really love 
something to drop big money on it. 

But if I held to that way of thinking I wouldn’t be able to get the bike I want 
from Rivendell. They removed Clementine and put Clem L. If I said “I don’t know 
if I can live with that” because I’m a woman and won’t ride a bike with a man’s 
name on it no matter how fantastic the bikeI guess I’d be Clem-less.

 Instead, I’m living with it, because it’s a great bike.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2019, at 10:43 AM, 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can see Leah’s perspective on the names, but I have to agree with Paul 
> that it should be exactly the bike he wants.  I understand completely as for 
> some reason I do not particularly care for the name Atlantis so am waiting 
> for a Joe Appaloosa (I prefer the head badge as well) although I think simply 
> Appaloosa would be better.  Silly reasons to prefer one over the other, but 
> when committing a large amount of money, why not?  I do think the single word 
> names are better-it’s hard to beat Hunqapillar or Cheviot.  For what it’s 
> worth, I’m just finishing building my new Clem L.
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2019, at 6:45 PM, PaulS  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Wolbis Slugstone. 
>> 
>> Yes, all funky names. Just don’t want Susie on the side of the bike. What’s 
>> wrong with that? Why are people getting defensive? That’s just my 
>> preference. If that were the ONLY bike I was after that had inimitable 
>> features I absolutely must have, then sure. I’ll buy it. But there are many 
>> other choices.
>> 
>>> On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 2:50:39 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> Paul, there's another name on the other side of Susie. Wolbis? I can't 
>>> remember..
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[RBW] Choco vs choco-moose

The only differences are the Moose locks you into a 12cm stem reach and the 
bars in the 'flipped down' position (I've used both). The separate version 
gives you lots more options. 

If you might be interested in a used ChocoMoose gimme a holler, I have one 
hanging around here without a bike to put it on. 

Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

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[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread Adam Leibow

IME anything "-moose" is triangulated and therefore stiffer (can equate to 
harsher riding); the benefit is it's more rugged for heavy duty riding and 
stiffer (if you are a bigger rider with a heavy pedal this can be a pro). 
one other benefit of "-moose" is your bars will never slip down. 

On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 10:43:02 AM UTC-8, Keith Swanson wrote:
>
> Can anyone speak to the practical difference riding between the choco and 
> choco-moose bars?  I've read the description on the Rivendell site but am 
> curious to hear from others.  I've recently switched from a drop bar Sam to 
> a Clem L with a bosco bar and assume the choco would be somewhere in the 
> middle (it would be for an Appaloosa).  For some reason I find the 
> choco-moose bars to be more aesthetically pleasing than the plain choco 
> bars.
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Re: [RBW] Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

2019-11-18 Thread Mark Roland

Back when they decommissioned "Clementine" I wondered here why they didn't 
decommission "Clem Smith Jr." instead. But they probably sell more this way.

To the OP's question, I think the weight differences will get lost in the 
laundry. (Or the sauce. It comes out in the laundry in the end). Some have 
mentioned the livelier feel of the lighter gauge tubing. I wonder how much 
lighter a 27lb bike rides compared to a 27.75lb bike? Or thereabouts.

IIRC
> I hear that, Keith, I do. It’s a lot of money and a person should really 
> love something to drop big money on it. 
>
> But if I held to that way of thinking I wouldn’t be able to get the bike I 
> want from Rivendell. They removed Clementine and put Clem L. If I said “I 
> don’t know if I can live with that” because I’m a woman and won’t ride a 
> bike with a man’s name on it no matter how fantastic the bikeI guess 
> I’d be Clem-less. 
>
>  Instead, I’m living with it, because it’s a great bike. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> > On Nov 18, 2019, at 10:43 AM, 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote: 
> > 
> > I can see Leah’s perspective on the names, but I have to agree with 
> Paul that it should be exactly the bike he wants.  I understand completely 
> as for some reason I do not particularly care for the name Atlantis so am 
> waiting for a Joe Appaloosa (I prefer the head badge as well) although I 
> think simply Appaloosa would be better.  Silly reasons to prefer one over 
> the other, but when committing a large amount of money, why not?  I do 
> think the single word names are better-it’s hard to beat Hunqapillar or 
> Cheviot.  For what it’s worth, I’m just finishing building my new Clem L. 
> > 
> >> On Nov 16, 2019, at 6:45 PM, PaulS > 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Yes, Wolbis Slugstone. 
> >> 
> >> Yes, all funky names. Just don’t want Susie on the side of the bike. 
> What’s wrong with that? Why are people getting defensive? That’s just my 
> preference. If that were the ONLY bike I was after that had inimitable 
> features I absolutely must have, then sure. I’ll buy it. But there are many 
> other choices. 
> >> 
> >>> On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 2:50:39 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: 
> >>> Paul, there's another name on the other side of Susie. Wolbis? I can't 
> remember.. 
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[RBW] FS: Parts from the Part Bin

2019-11-18 Thread MCT

Cleaning out the parts bin and selling a few items. All prices include
shipping. All parts have about 600 miles on them. Please let me know if
you have any questions.

Pictures at the following link -
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kTQOo1R6Evv-ytwcnNHy9by2Xu65cpTS

1. Sugino Mighty Tour 901D double. The arm length is 175mm. The chainring
sizes are 48/34. You can go 11 speed on this crankset. It includes the
bottom bracket and everything else you see in the main picture crankset
picture. Price is $150

Sugino’s website -
https://www.suginoltd.co.jp/us/products/touring/mighty.html

3. Paul Components Quick Release skewers. 100mm in front and 130/135mm in
rear. Price is $100

Paul website -
https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/skewers/quick-release-skewers/

5. Shimano RD-R8000 Rear Derailler Short Cage. (In the picture you can see
“ss” which stands for short cage.) Short cage cover 11-25T to 11-30T Price
is $50.

Shimano’s website -
https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/ultegra-r8000/RD-R8000-SS.html

6. Shimano CS-R8000 Cassette 11-28T. Price is $45.

Shimano’s website -
https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/ultegra-r8000/CS-R8000.html

7. Rene Herse (Compass) Barlow Pass tan standard weight 700x38 pair. Price
is $95.

Rene Herse Website -
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/tires/700c/compass-700cx38-barlow-pass/

8. Nitto NTC-DX Technomic Deluxe Stem. I forgot the stem length after I
ordered it. I measured the Stem Length as 60mm. I measured from middle of
the quill to middle of the clamp. The quill length is 190mm. The clamp is
26mm. There are Price is $48.

Ben cycle sells for more info.
https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-ntc-dx-technomic-deluxe-long-quill-stem/stem_nitto_ntc-dxlong_870/product

9. Nitto Noodle. 48cm. There are a few stickies. The clamp has a few
scratches from being inside a stem The hear treated sticker is a little
messed up. Price is $50.

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Re: [RBW] Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

The weight difference may not be significant; however, I've ridden stock 
frames (i.e. Surly) at 5lbs and custom frames at 4lbs.  Not much 
difference.  Surly is butted, but probably 9/6/9?  Or something like that.  
Custom frame was at 8/5/8.  It was a delight to ride.  Felt so much more 
lively than the stock Surly.  

I don't know what the tubing specs are, but I'd venture to say you're 
looking at around the same tubing specs as above for Gus and Susie.  If so, 
I'd imagine Susie to feel more lively.  Just speculating

On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 1:31:28 PM UTC-7, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Back when they decommissioned "Clementine" I wondered here why they didn't 
> decommission "Clem Smith Jr." instead. But they probably sell more this way.
>
> To the OP's question, I think the weight differences will get lost in the 
> laundry. (Or the sauce. It comes out in the laundry in the end). Some have 
> mentioned the livelier feel of the lighter gauge tubing. I wonder how much 
> lighter a 27lb bike rides compared to a 27.75lb bike? Or thereabouts.
>
> IIRC on what you configured with the letters available--custom anagram decals. 
> Correct me if I'm wrong. Might be something to bring back--I think it 
> didn't happen due to a mix up in understanding, but maybe it's also too 
> much trouble.
>
> On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 1:58:34 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> I hear that, Keith, I do. It’s a lot of money and a person should really 
>> love something to drop big money on it. 
>>
>> But if I held to that way of thinking I wouldn’t be able to get the bike 
>> I want from Rivendell. They removed Clementine and put Clem L. If I said “I 
>> don’t know if I can live with that” because I’m a woman and won’t ride a 
>> bike with a man’s name on it no matter how fantastic the bikeI guess 
>> I’d be Clem-less. 
>>
>>  Instead, I’m living with it, because it’s a great bike. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> > On Nov 18, 2019, at 10:43 AM, 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > I can see Leah’s perspective on the names, but I have to agree with 
>> Paul that it should be exactly the bike he wants.  I understand completely 
>> as for some reason I do not particularly care for the name Atlantis so am 
>> waiting for a Joe Appaloosa (I prefer the head badge as well) although I 
>> think simply Appaloosa would be better.  Silly reasons to prefer one over 
>> the other, but when committing a large amount of money, why not?  I do 
>> think the single word names are better-it’s hard to beat Hunqapillar or 
>> Cheviot.  For what it’s worth, I’m just finishing building my new Clem L. 
>> > 
>> >> On Nov 16, 2019, at 6:45 PM, PaulS  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Yes, Wolbis Slugstone. 
>> >> 
>> >> Yes, all funky names. Just don’t want Susie on the side of the bike. 
>> What’s wrong with that? Why are people getting defensive? That’s just my 
>> preference. If that were the ONLY bike I was after that had inimitable 
>> features I absolutely must have, then sure. I’ll buy it. But there are many 
>> other choices. 
>> >> 
>> >>> On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 2:50:39 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard 
>> wrote: 
>> >>> Paul, there's another name on the other side of Susie. Wolbis? I 
>> can't remember.. 
>> >> 
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2019-11-18 Thread Steve Cole

Jacob,

Sounds like a fabulous 4+ days.  I don't generally think of record-setting 
cold days in November as very desirable.  Since they allowed you to cycle 
the C&O without mud on a frozen, leaf-covered surface, I might change my 
mind.  I'm wondering how cold it got at night and what kind of equipment 
kept you warm.


On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 1:42:26 PM UTC-5, Jacob P wrote:
>
> Hey all, 
> I know it's a well traversed route, but for those of you on the east coast 
> within spitting distance to DC or Pittsburgh, please do consider riding the 
> GAP and C&O. I have a few cross country tours in my quiver, but for a 
> couple specific reasons, this one stood out as an exceptional micro tour. 
> First being, NO CARS! I am a distance lover (not much for speed unless it's 
> a screaming downhill!), and these consecutive trails provide 335 miles of 
> exceptional riding. The conditions on the GAP are near pristine, and 
> although the C&O is a bit more rough and tumble, it's also an incredible 
> ride. I've heard a lot of people say that the C&O is a complete mudbath. I 
> will advocate for November riding -- the leaves cover most the path and the 
> ground was slightly frozen. Zero mud. 
>
> Secondly, it's a micro tour-able route! I live in Charlottesville and my 
> buddy in DC. I parked my car in a quiet neighborhood of Arlington, then 
> pedaled over to a rental car company where we quickly hauled our bikes and 
> gear to downtown Pittsburgh. Rental minivan dropped off, one night in a 
> hotel, and we were off. Four and a half days later, we were on the National 
> Mall in DC. Here are a few pictures along the way. He's riding a Surly 
> Bridgeclub and and I'm on a 63cm AHH. Notice the goosenecked stem -- I had 
> to get creative to get this bike to fit me correctly :) 
>
> We camped along the Potomac, spotted Bald Eagles and Red Tailed Hawks, 
> encountered a few trash pandas who attempted to bust into our panniers. I 
> rode the entire route in Crocs and second hand wool/reflective clothing. We 
> are here. And finally, as it should be noted, a good time was had by all. 
>
> Happy riding everyone, 
>
> Jacob
> Charlottesville, VA
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Re: [RBW] Gus or Susie?/Threadless Weight vs Quill Weight?

FWIW, The original orange Clementine is PERFECT , just utterly the perfect 
name and color to go with it.  It is womans name, a fruit ? Either/or, it 
doesn't matter to me.  Calling it a Clem-L(in this case it stands for LESS 
the Whole name !)  seems like it was edited to suit some agenda over 
their original wisdom in choosing the name in the first place. Imagine 
wanting to call your daughter Clementine, but "someone in the cheap seats" 
in the family complains because they consider it offensive for some reason. 
Press them on the validity of those reasons, and they go blanco and it 
becomes apparent they've bought into an opinion they've heard, heresay... 
which isn't anything at all. 

I grew up with an AWESOME Mom . Amazing things happen when you trust your 
kids to be themselves, and she instinctively knew this in us all. That's 
strength you know . it's not about what you accomplish or don't 
accomplish  it's about what you ARE ... which is THAT you ARE . in 
celebration of this utter simplicity and profondness , yes ... profound 
fondness... appreciation real LOVE ...  just for Being. 

Being-Oneself is neither offensive or defensive, neither defends or offends 
 in Love there is no "other" at all. 

On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 5:34:02 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Hmm...the name, the name I have thought about this issue many times 
> and I think I’m finally ready to say something about it. I expect to get 
> some harsh responses, but hopefully it’s not because you think I’m being 
> harsh; I am merely intending to have a conversation with you. Pretend there 
> is coffee. 
>
> Rivendell has fans of both the male and female variety. Clearly, I’m in 
> the latter group, so that is from where my perspective is coming to you. 
> Over the years I’ve heard plenty of comments like “Oh, I love that bike 
> except that it’s a mixte.” Or “I don’t know if I’m man enough to ride the 
> Cheviot/Betty.” Once someone told me that he wouldn’t ever consider a mixte 
> frame (due to its feminine connotation and nothing else) until he was old 
> and feeble, and EVEN THEN, he’d still try to avoid it in favor of a diamond 
> frame. Grant obliterated the name Clementine in favor of Clem Smith, Jr so 
> as to take gender out of it, but really, just the feminine name was 
> eliminated and a masculine replaced it. That one hurt. The new Hillibikes 
> are being offered with two names, one feminine, and it seems like some 
> consider that a knock against the bike. To say you can’t live with Susie 
> Longbolts (sp) but Gus Boots Willsen is great seems unlikely. They are both 
> goofy names. 
>
> 2 issues: 
> 1. Why does it seem feminine names are polarizing? What is it about a 
> mixte or step-through that a man might see as threatening to their 
> masculinity? Is femininity seen as derogatory? Weak? Shameful?  What? 
> 2. Why are women expected to ride bikes with male names and not be 
> offended? A man can’t ride a bike with the name Clementine because it 
> doesn’t represent him, but a women is expected to ride her Joe Appaloosa, 
> or her Clem Smith Jr without complaint. 
>
> Leah 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

Oops, the ChocoMoose offer is cancelled. I just got word my custom is on the 
way, I may need these bars for it. 

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[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose


   A bullmoose is great if it's the set angle downward that you prefer, if 
not, not so much.  Stiffness isn't everything, it depends on the rider 
preference. It's never as if bars bend and flex in hands like wet noodles, 
though some act like it does ! 


On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 1:43:02 PM UTC-5, Keith Swanson wrote:
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> Can anyone speak to the practical difference riding between the choco and 
> choco-moose bars?  I've read the description on the Rivendell site but am 
> curious to hear from others.  I've recently switched from a drop bar Sam to 
> a Clem L with a bosco bar and assume the choco would be somewhere in the 
> middle (it would be for an Appaloosa).  For some reason I find the 
> choco-moose bars to be more aesthetically pleasing than the plain choco 
> bars.
>

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[RBW] IC: 62 CM Hunqapillar F/F/HS

2019-11-18 Thread Zack

Hey all -

Am thinking about selling my 62 cm Hunq frameset. It's in great condition 
with a bit of beusage. Kidney bean and grey paint. Have some other things I 
could throw in (seatpost, crank, Paul brakes) if you are going to build it 
up from scratch and want a head start. 

Can add pics soon. 

Located in Portland, OR, can ship, but would want to do it through local 
bike shop rather than box myself.

Start at $1500 for F/F/HS? Plus shipping if you aren't here? Not sure what 
good condition Hunqs should be selling for, life stuff has pulled me away 
from having my finger on the pulse of Rivendell pricing. If I am too low or 
too high please let me know.

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[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread WETH

That was fast turn around for your custom! Congrats!

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[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

Not bad eh? But I don't know what the wait is at Joe Bell, it's headed there 
tomorrow. Which means I have to pick a color..I cant decide!

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[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread DHans

Joe,
I really like British Racing Green. You could accent it with the cream color 
Riv uses on some models. 
Doug

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[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch

Joe,
Leah is secretly wishing that you do it in her desired red metallic sparkle 
paint.  Some day down the road your step over Custom will process to her as a 
non top tube bike and she will be the eventual purchaser of it after all her 
Clem’s are gone and she looks for a new bike to compliment her 2020 fancy 
Cheviot.

Contact her for a swatch or paint chip or something if you want to get it just 
right!

Sorry could not resist,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

I'll think of a good one. I didn't mean to hijack this guy's Choco thread, 
sorry about that. 

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[RBW] Wanted - 59cm Clem H

2019-11-18 Thread Jeffrey B

Ideally looking for a mustard or green complete but open to other ideas.
Please PM me with what you have - thanks!

Jeff

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Re: [RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread David Bivins

I'm one of those who act like "bars bend and flex in hands like wet
noodles." Well, not exactly, but I've been in two near-collisions in NYC
traffic where I exerted enough force on the bars to twist them downward in
the clamp. I love the stability of my boscomoose bars and I'm considering
getting the chocomoose to try out someday.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 4:59 PM Garth  wrote:

>
>A bullmoose is great if it's the set angle downward that you prefer, if
> not, not so much.  Stiffness isn't everything, it depends on the rider
> preference. It's never as if bars bend and flex in hands like wet noodles,
> though some act like it does !
>
>
> On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 1:43:02 PM UTC-5, Keith Swanson wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone speak to the practical difference riding between the choco and
>> choco-moose bars?  I've read the description on the Rivendell site but am
>> curious to hear from others.  I've recently switched from a drop bar Sam to
>> a Clem L with a bosco bar and assume the choco would be somewhere in the
>> middle (it would be for an Appaloosa).  For some reason I find the
>> choco-moose bars to be more aesthetically pleasing than the plain choco
>> bars.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY

Moose anything is great! As for NYC and their superior triangulation, the moose 
triangle gives a solid spot to send a cable through, protecting your bars, 
stem, shifters, brake levers, and bells.
David, if you're looking to test the bars you're welcome to mine for a couple 
weeks, they're not currently on a bike.
-Kai

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2019-11-18 Thread Tom Horton

jacob, I'll second your endorsement. just rode my atlantis back to maryland 
from colorado and when people ask best part of the route, I have to say it 
was the GAP!  C&O not shabby either, and is being increasingly upgraded for 
bikes vs its original footpath intent. and yeah, colorado was kinda 
spectacular.  I believe amtrak will now take you and your fully assembled 
bike from d.c. to pittsburgh or vice versa; also will drop off in 
cumberland, where GAP meets C&O.   It is a spectacular passage, not 
viewable by car; also flattish and shady enough I never used sunblock.

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> Hey all, 
> I know it's a well traversed route, but for those of you on the east coast 
> within spitting distance to DC or Pittsburgh, please do consider riding the 
> GAP and C&O. I have a few cross country tours in my quiver, but for a 
> couple specific reasons, this one stood out as an exceptional micro tour. 
> First being, NO CARS! I am a distance lover (not much for speed unless it's 
> a screaming downhill!), and these consecutive trails provide 335 miles of 
> exceptional riding. The conditions on the GAP are near pristine, and 
> although the C&O is a bit more rough and tumble, it's also an incredible 
> ride. I've heard a lot of people say that the C&O is a complete mudbath. I 
> will advocate for November riding -- the leaves cover most the path and the 
> ground was slightly frozen. Zero mud. 
>
> Secondly, it's a micro tour-able route! I live in Charlottesville and my 
> buddy in DC. I parked my car in a quiet neighborhood of Arlington, then 
> pedaled over to a rental car company where we quickly hauled our bikes and 
> gear to downtown Pittsburgh. Rental minivan dropped off, one night in a 
> hotel, and we were off. Four and a half days later, we were on the National 
> Mall in DC. Here are a few pictures along the way. He's riding a Surly 
> Bridgeclub and and I'm on a 63cm AHH. Notice the goosenecked stem -- I had 
> to get creative to get this bike to fit me correctly :) 
>
> We camped along the Potomac, spotted Bald Eagles and Red Tailed Hawks, 
> encountered a few trash pandas who attempted to bust into our panniers. I 
> rode the entire route in Crocs and second hand wool/reflective clothing. We 
> are here. And finally, as it should be noted, a good time was had by all. 
>
> Happy riding everyone, 
>
> Jacob
> Charlottesville, VA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Choco vs choco-moose

2019-11-18 Thread David Bivins

Wow - thanks! I’ll be in touch. 

> On Nov 18, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
> 
> Moose anything is great! As for NYC and their superior triangulation, the 
> moose triangle gives a solid spot to send a cable through, protecting your 
> bars, stem, shifters, brake levers, and bells.
> David, if you're looking to test the bars you're welcome to mine for a couple 
> weeks, they're not currently on a bike.
> -Kai
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[RBW] FS 51cm Joey Appaloosa

2019-11-18 Thread Denise Granger

I bought this Joey Frameset after selling my Sam Hillborne Frameset (too
small). Used most of the parts from the original Sam build except for the
Albatross bars, cork & bar end shifters, brake levers, seat, fenders (honjo
replaced the ones that came with the Sam), pedals and the crankset which I
found used on this site a while back (170mm)(not super great, but works for
me). The Tubus Rack also came with the Sam as well. I still have drop bars,
a few various stems, an additional set of the cantilever brakes (new) and
the Brooks (B17) saddle that came with the Sam. This bike has been great
and I used it for riding to the YMCA and the Farmers Market and Store or
just to tool around. It's an awesome bike but I need to sell to make room
for the bike I just built up for the same purpose and to do some bike
packing on. I am asking $ 1,500.00 for the bike only + cost of packing and
shipping if necessary - but would prefer a local pick up. There are a few
marks on the bike and fenders as it got used quite a bit but it's in great
condition.

Link for photos - https://photos.app.goo.gl/dangQ3J8HMB5Caqh8

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[RBW] FS 51cm Joey Appaloosa