[RBW] Re: FS: Rivsack Banana Sax, Paul Skewers, TRP Brake levers, Helix coffee dripper
How long did you use the Tektro levers?? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7ad2a1e3-30cd-478a-a72b-2d8161548e3e%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: WTB Thompson Seatpost & Paul Thumb Shifter Mount right
Yes. Thank you Bill. The same one Riv sells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a8c8a20f-b086-4f21-a833-128622b17464%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivsack Banana Sax, Paul Skewers, TRP Brake levers, Helix coffee dripper
Hey Phil - I'll take those Paul skewers. Can PAyPal immediately / just lmk / jsk On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 9:42:34 PM UTC-5, phil k wrote: > > I am moving and finally pared down to one bike. I've dialed it in, and so > I no longer need some of these parts: > > Riv Sackville Banana Sax Olive Green, new condition - $95 shipped > > Pair of Paul QR skewers, 100mm & 130-135mm rear, silver with orange, new > condition - $60 shipped > > TRP RRL brake levers, gum hoods - $40 shipped > > Optimus kettle - $15 shipped > > Helix Coffee dripper - $10 shipped > > Sugino 165mm crank arms with 38t Raceface narrow wide ring - $50 shipped > > Sugino chainrings, 44t & 34t - $10 shipped > > Since I am busy moving, if you are buying multiple things, I'll knock off > prices. > > [image: IMG_20200226_212523.jpg] > > [image: IMG_20200226_212518.jpg] > > [image: IMG_20200226_212550.jpg] > > [image: IMG_20200226_212421.jpg] > > [image: IMG_20200226_212704.jpg] > > [image: IMG_20200226_212614.jpg] > > [image: IMG_20200226_212336.jpg] > > [image: IMG_20200226_213919.jpg] > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d0a30ef9-eecb-413d-a4ac-ac1ede605344%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
Interesting that Riv removed the geo charts and Grant choses not to discuss it with a customer. Does he suspect people overthink subtle geometrical differences? Sort of a rhetorical question but I do wonder. Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/027dc0c7-269e-43c5-8117-29781fc7b22a%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] FS Sackville Shopsack Clembasack
Hey! I've got a like-new Sackville Shopsack Clembasack in olive green. Designed for the taller Clem baskets, but fits well in the Wald 137 too. It's like an extra-medium Shopsack. I've already got a medium and a large, so I haven't used it. How does $55 shipped sound? Cheers! Tim Portland, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3638c60d-b186-43e4-942e-55ebafaf0fad%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
If I were determined to buy a drop bar ruff-stuff touring bike from Rivendell Bicycle Works today, I'd probably buy a 54cm Appaloosa. I could make that work with a drop bar. Bill On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:33:01 PM UTC-8, Michael Williams wrote: > > Daniel and Bill and others, you can compare different model frames fairly > easily on bikeinsights, assuming that all numbers are correct. > > > https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries%5B%5D=5e1faf637f17da00170c6e28%5B%5D=5ad1288a9127aa0014fa1d9c%5B%5D=%5B%5D= > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e197f8ee-be68-41b9-9855-6ff449cd5a2e%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
Thanks Bill. Trivially easy for those who know what a way back machine is. Here’s to looking sheepishly back up your nose. D. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/572977cc-859a-4ade-82b9-85ef4c47de60%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
Daniel and Bill and others, you can compare different model frames fairly easily on bikeinsights, assuming that all numbers are correct. https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries%5B%5D=5e1faf637f17da00170c6e28%5B%5D=5ad1288a9127aa0014fa1d9c%5B%5D=%5B%5D= Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > > Daniel Jackson > > It's trivially easy to find the previous geometry chart via the wayback > machine. I just looked it up, on a Sept 23, 2019 snapshot of rivbike.com. > > > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > >> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:13:12 PM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote: >> John, >> >> Bill I believe alluded to this, but there now seem to be two generations of >> MIT Atlantis. To my chagrin, the precious geometry charts have disappeared >> from the website and if you ask anyone at Riv about differences between >> generations they either do not know (eg Corey) or will not tell you (Grant). >> >> There was a time, about 2 months ago or so, when there were two different >> MIT Atlantis geo charts on the website. One on the Atlantis site and one on >> the full geo chart listing all current frame geometries. They conflicted >> with one another. I called Riv with clarifying questions and Corey promptly >> removed the geo chart on the Atlantis site from the original gen MIT >> Atlantis. I called back asking Grant about the different geometries and how >> to tell whether a given MIT was of the first or second geometry. He told me >> not to worry about. >> >> So there it is. I believe that the current crop of MIT Atlanti are longer >> and slacker than the original generation. The original are therefore better >> suited to drops. Benedict’s bike, linked to in the Radavist article, is >> first gen and perfect for drops. >> >> Best, >> D. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5906c8bc-3644-4d5f-9232-a20ed8413ffd%40googlegroups.com. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7EF39914-6C82-464D-A445-CCB7840F3DB3%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
Daniel Jackson It's trivially easy to find the previous geometry chart via the wayback machine. I just looked it up, on a Sept 23, 2019 snapshot of rivbike.com. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:13:12 PM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > John, > > Bill I believe alluded to this, but there now seem to be two generations > of MIT Atlantis. To my chagrin, the precious geometry charts have > disappeared from the website and if you ask anyone at Riv about differences > between generations they either do not know (eg Corey) or will not tell you > (Grant). > > There was a time, about 2 months ago or so, when there were two different > MIT Atlantis geo charts on the website. One on the Atlantis site and one on > the full geo chart listing all current frame geometries. They conflicted > with one another. I called Riv with clarifying questions and Corey promptly > removed the geo chart on the Atlantis site from the original gen MIT > Atlantis. I called back asking Grant about the different geometries and how > to tell whether a given MIT was of the first or second geometry. He told me > not to worry about. > > So there it is. I believe that the current crop of MIT Atlanti are longer > and slacker than the original generation. The original are therefore better > suited to drops. Benedict’s bike, linked to in the Radavist article, is > first gen and perfect for drops. > > Best, > D. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5906c8bc-3644-4d5f-9232-a20ed8413ffd%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] WTT: Mafac Racer for Weinmann 750
Would like to trade a single Mafac Racer with brake bridge mounting for Weinmann 750. Comes with straddle cable. The brake is dirty but should clean up well. Spring tension feels good. Looking to get my new-to-me Raleigh International back to somewhat original OE parts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a30ad528-f7e7-42f2-b913-d66f917d4c40%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
John, Bill I believe alluded to this, but there now seem to be two generations of MIT Atlantis. To my chagrin, the precious geometry charts have disappeared from the website and if you ask anyone at Riv about differences between generations they either do not know (eg Corey) or will not tell you (Grant). There was a time, about 2 months ago or so, when there were two different MIT Atlantis geo charts on the website. One on the Atlantis site and one on the full geo chart listing all current frame geometries. They conflicted with one another. I called Riv with clarifying questions and Corey promptly removed the geo chart on the Atlantis site from the original gen MIT Atlantis. I called back asking Grant about the different geometries and how to tell whether a given MIT was of the first or second geometry. He told me not to worry about. So there it is. I believe that the current crop of MIT Atlanti are longer and slacker than the original generation. The original are therefore better suited to drops. Benedict’s bike, linked to in the Radavist article, is first gen and perfect for drops. Best, D. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/08cd5790-4df1-4e89-8e1f-398b761f12ae%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] WTB Nitto Dirt Drop Stem 80mm, 26.0
Willing to buy or trade for another stem: 70mm Technomic 110mm Tallux Thanks, Austin Sykesville, MD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/213087a0-528d-4c47-ac08-569540716353%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Chain rubbing rear tire on Clem.
One note Jim mentioned which may render the whole convo moot: he only noticed it in the stand. The chain is probably stretching taut enough under pedal pressure that it's not even rubbing in real world use. I've owned several of these with those cranks and tires and never noticed it on the road. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/49d7a9b9-690b-47a6-9e57-0a27430d137b%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: WTB Thompson Seatpost & Paul Thumb Shifter Mount right
Your prospective seller for a Right Side Paul Thumbie probably should know which of the 6 variants you need (not including color). Rivendell Bicycle Works sells the Shimano variant in 22.2mm clamp diameter. Is that the one you need? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 1:00:11 PM UTC-8, Jonathan D. wrote: > > Looking for a setback 410 mm 27.2 Thompson Seatpost and a right Paul Thumb > Shifter Mount. I could trade a shorter zero setback thompson Seatpost or > nitto Seatpost. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/71658f7f-6a3a-42e5-b226-21dbf214387b%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Presale
I just got home from the shop. They showed me one of the new orange Appaloosas that was being built up. The orange is ridiculously gorgeous! It's very slightly on the burnt orange side of the spectrum, particularly compared to the reddish-orange roadini that was hanging up nearby. I think the construction pumpkin on the orange XO was a higher-key color, as is the color that I decided on with D for my Appaloosa. And I took a Susie for a lap around the parking lot and have decided that I have to sell one of my other bikes so that I can buy a hillibike. I can't wait to take it out for a spin on the trail once my knee is all healed. Visiting headquarters is dangerous to my bank account! On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 5:05:02 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I've only seen it on the Susie and it has more of a reddish rust look to > me than on XO-1. But that's a solid-color bike, it may look different with > white panels. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a032327f-3ab0-40e9-901c-9f3c5c77b157%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Appaloosa Presale
As of an hour ago, I have a brand new 54cm blue Appaloosa frame sitting in my apartment. It looks great. That orange is nice, but the blue is weirdly soothing to look at, so that's what I got. I'll post photos after I build it up. If anyone has any questions about these, let me know. On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 6:05:02 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I've only seen it on the Susie and it has more of a reddish rust look to > me than on XO-1. But that's a solid-color bike, it may look different with > white panels. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/cb851549-19d0-4245-9911-e6cfe3e1e8d1%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Chain rubbing rear tire on Clem.
Not to beat this to death, but two quick observations— Jeremy - Two piece cranks, unlike most square taper, can be moved 2.5mm in either direction on a typical 68mm BB shell on a Riv., just by moving spacers. The width between pedals (Q factor) doesn't change, but the bias does. And - Just because a tire can fit between forks or seat-stays brakes doesn’t mean that it “fits”. There is this thing called the Chainline. Riv specifies a chainline - 47.5mm for my Sam - which defines where the middle of the front chainrings and the middle of the rear cassette should be. A little geometry can tell you what the maximum tire width for a properly set-up drive would be with no rubbing. Quick example: 9-speed cassette gear spacing is 4.34mm. Chainline is centered on gear 5. So the gear closest to the center of my Sam is at 47.5 - 4.34x4, or 30.1mm from the centerline of the bike. Subtract another 2.2mm for 1/2 the chain width and you’re at 27.9 from the bike centerline in the rear. Doing this for the front chainrings (and it depends on if it’s a double or triple) and drawing a line between and locating the tire on that line tells you how wide a tire you should be able to fit without rubbing. You CAN move your chainline out, but not far, as the rear cassette is pretty well fixed. Also I highly recommend you actually measure your bike - my rear cassette was 2mm off and so 2" tires might have rubbed on my bike. More help is here: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html As a Mechanical Engineer who enjoys math, Jim has nothing on me for setting up bikes becoming obsessive… :-) Anyway…Rivendell may have set the bike up with smaller tires. If it bothers you, measure your bike and dig into it. If not, just ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/51c300a8-4d78-4824-b689-b13cec1184e5%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
Here's a famous MIT Atlantis with drops: https://theradavist.com/2019/01/ultra-romance-and-his-rivendell-atlantis-mountain-bike/ On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:00:13 AM UTC-8, John G. wrote: > > I have a bunch of parts in need of a 700c frame, so I’ve been pondering my > next build. I miss my old Atlantis, though I traded it for my Roadeo, which > I love. I’m thinking about getting a MIT Atlantis, but the reach on the MIT > model seems longer than the older iterations. Albatrosses aren’t for me—I > get wrist pain on longer rides. Has anyone set up their MIT Atlantis with > drops or Albastaches? Are they really more intended for bars like the > Albastache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4ed80bf9-4d03-4c33-9f2c-94b58f417b18%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] WTB Thompson Seatpost & Paul Thumb Shifter Mount right
Looking for a setback 410 mm 27.2 Thompson Seatpost and a right Paul Thumb Shifter Mount. I could trade a shorter zero setback thompson Seatpost or nitto Seatpost. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/632395ce-6314-4cab-8738-e766949bac74%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
Unless you are going for a super upright riding position, I don't see why the bullmoose wouldn't work on your Atlantis. The Whatbar? site shows the grip portion of the bullmoose coming further back than the the center of the head tube. I've ridden a bike with a 60cm ETT (10 less than the Atlantis) and my normal MTB bars are well forward of the head tube. If anything, I would worry about the bullmoose being too close to me. On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 1:52:00 PM UTC-6, Steve Cole wrote: > > > When I ordered my MIT Atlantis (a 55cm, 700c), I also wanted a slightly > swept back bar. I spec'd the Nitto Bullmoose but was told by James Johnson > at Analog Cycles (which is building the bike for me) that the Bullmoose > would not work for what I wanted because of the long reach of the MIT > Atlantis. He recommended a shorter stem (80mm) and either a Nitto Wavie or > Velo Orange Curvy handlebar. These are similar in most respects and I've > ended up with the Curvy. I'll be riding it in a few weeks and can let you > know my experience. > > Albastache? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fdeb7866-4fda-4f36-9ff1-7c03bd4b33ed%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
I set up mine with Nitto B135 drop bars and bar end shifters. First, you'll need to add about 8 links to any chain and you might need a longer rear derailleur cable to accommodate the longer chainstays. Second, I used a zero offset seatpost and a shortish stem to close up the extended reach created by the long top tube. Other than sliding my Brooks saddle a bit forward on the rails, that's all it took to replicate the position from my other bikes. The hardest part was finding a zero offset seatpost in the correct diameter (Thomson or Origin 8). On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 7:00:13 AM UTC-5, John G. wrote: > > I have a bunch of parts in need of a 700c frame, so I’ve been pondering my > next build. I miss my old Atlantis, though I traded it for my Roadeo, which > I love. I’m thinking about getting a MIT Atlantis, but the reach on the MIT > model seems longer than the older iterations. Albatrosses aren’t for me—I > get wrist pain on longer rides. Has anyone set up their MIT Atlantis with > drops or Albastaches? Are they really more intended for bars like the > Albastache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5d5ba76c-23f6-4000-99c8-13efc51d7022%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Act of Thoughtfulness
Trail fall of trees is always an issue over the miles of back trails. Years ago, I "upgraded" to a Japanese hand saw (cuts on the back cut, not the push cut, allowing for a harder steel that stays sharp a lng time). Silky. This wee one is always on my trail bike and is good for 4" diameter without creativity, up to 10" or so with creativity. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014C7XS0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1 This longer one works great for up to 22" diameter with creativity. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014CA3JQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1 With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 7:55:31 AM UTC-7, Tom Wyland wrote: > > For a week in the spring I carry around branch loppers (technical name) to > cut off branches that extend into the trails and sidewalks that are used by > cyclists. I was thinking of upgrading to a rechargeable mini chainsaw this > year. I've had someone stop their car and tell me "I see what you are > doing there.. thanks I bike through there all of the time." > > Tom > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b0be8741-1407-4c50-9744-24bc46519198%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
Hi John, To start, I am far from being as expert as many of the regulars in this discussion group. That said, I have three Riv bikes now and have an MIT Atlantis that will be coming my way in the next few weeks. When I purchased my first Riv bike, an A. Homer Hilsen, I switched out the handlebars from Nitto Noodles drop bars to Nitto Albatrosses. I also found that drops no longer worked for me -- I found myself only riding on the tops of the bars and the brake hoods. I tried the Albatross since so many in the group and Grant and other RBW staff spoke glowingly about Albatross comfort. I never felt it worked for me. What I found to be less than comfortable is the "handshake" grip that one uses with the Albatross bars (and the drops of drop bars). Prior to discovering RBW, I owned a Scott Sub 20, a very comfortable bike. It had no name bars that were relatively flat that were slightly (20-30 degrees) swept back. They were very comfortable. Rather than a handshake grip, these bars called for a grip like I was grasping a bar that was parallel to the floor in front of me. I never felt aches or pains. After some thought about my Albatross bars, I concluded I needed to trade them out for less swept back handlebars. I chose the Nitto Bullmoose for my AHH. It provided the comfort that I wanted and hoped for. When I ordered my MIT Atlantis (a 55cm, 700c), I also wanted a slightly swept back bar. I spec'd the Nitto Bullmoose but was told by James Johnson at Analog Cycles (which is building the bike for me) that the Bullmoose would not work for what I wanted because of the long reach of the MIT Atlantis. He recommended a shorter stem (80mm) and either a Nitto Wavie or Velo Orange Curvy handlebar. These are similar in most respects and I've ended up with the Curvy. I'll be riding it in a few weeks and can let you know my experience. In the meantime, if you are not familiar with the WhatBars website, I recommend it highly as it allow one to compare the geometry of almost any handlebar you might want. Here's the link: www.whatbars.com. Good luck on your search. Steve Cole Arlington, VA p.s. When my MIT Atlantis arrives, I still plan to see whether a Nitto Bullmoose might work for me. On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 5:00:13 AM UTC-7, John G. wrote: > > I have a bunch of parts in need of a 700c frame, so I’ve been pondering my > next build. I miss my old Atlantis, though I traded it for my Roadeo, which > I love. I’m thinking about getting a MIT Atlantis, but the reach on the MIT > model seems longer than the older iterations. Albatrosses aren’t for me—I > get wrist pain on longer rides. Has anyone set up their MIT Atlantis with > drops or Albastaches? Are they really more intended for bars like the > Albastache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2948573f-0efd-4a7d-aa82-af574c28743d%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
I have the 56 650b MIT Atlantis set up with drops, but I don’t think I could make it work with the newer one. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0741449c-2699-4684-a472-62af3781180c%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b clearance on Rambouillet?
I’ve converted all my 700c bikes to 650B. 38 mm seems the sweet spot for tire size. I can run Grand Bois or Pari Motos or Gravel Kings and play with pressure to suit the route. The MaFac Pro centerpulls are really strong brakes and I like them. Tektros with good pads are okay, just not as good. Just for fun, I tried 584 wheels with the pads all the way down and they work, and you can get fat tires, but the handling suffers so I went back to 650B. My 52 cm Ram has 2 wheel sets and one runs the stock 32 mm tires and the other Pasela 38s. I like the 32s better. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:11 AM, David B wrote: > > > This is why I seem to swap my Redwood from 650b to 700c on an annual basis! I > think I'm sticking with my 650b setup for a bit - IMO if you're after fenders > AND 47mm tires, then this sort of hits the limit of Tektro R559s as a 55m > fender width (at a bare minimum for 47mm) doesn't seem to play well with the > quick release of the R559s. Dia Compe 750s don't seem to help either as the > narrowness limits where the fender can fit vertically. I settled on Mafac > Raids, which I cleaned up and upgraded pads to v-brake style and everything > works great - setup with 58mm Velo Orange fenders - and with the straddle > cable released on the Raids I can remove wheels without deflating tires. > All of this is not for everyone. Had I not picked up an 80s Specialized > Sequoia that is virtually identical in dimensions, I likely would've gone > back to 700c on the Redwood. > >> On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 9:30:30 PM UTC-6, Wyatt wrote: >> This is an interesting dissenting opinion Art! >> >> I hope to avoid too much trouble with brakes, as I'm already running Tektro >> r556s with seemingly all of the clearance in the world, but I am afraid I'll >> hear your bit about Mother Superior's advice echoing in my ears if/when this >> project goes sideways. I guess the dream is that the two-wheelset plan would >> allow for the best of both worlds, but we'll see. >> >>> On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 10:48:29 AM UTC+8, Arthur Lewy wrote: >>> Greetings Wyatt >>> >>> I will echo comments above. With DiaCompe 750s I easily fit 584x42s on my >>> green Ramb. The chainstays are the biggest limitation: there was 3 mm >>> clearance on each side. My wheels were true and over 3 years I had no >>> problems, although it was a source of worry. >>> >>> All of this said, I will share my experience with the conversion. Going to >>> 650 B on the Ramb, for me led to a series of compromises, like shortening >>> my cranks. Using long centerpulls was a hassle: they are less efficient >>> and due to my own limited skills, they are hard to adjust. My beloved >>> Mark’s rack did not play well with the centerpull cable. I took off the >>> rack but then lost capability to use my Shopsack. >>> >>> This summer I drove back to Seattle from Brooklyn with my beloved lab >>> Princess Buttercup. We drove through Canada to stop by Lakes Huron and >>> Superior. From the first day she ran in, fetched balls, dove for rocks >>> and it seemed she would swim to Wisconsin. It reminded me of what Mother >>> Superior said to fraulein Maria about doing what you were born to do. >>> >>> A few weeks ago I slapped the 700c wheels back on the Ramb along with the >>> Silver brakes, the Mark’s rack, basket, and Shopsack. In the absence of >>> Ruffy Tuffys, I put on Vitoria Corsa Courses. There’s gobs of tire room >>> and the Ramb just sings again in a way it didn’t do with the supposedly >>> cushier 650Bs. It is such a joy. >>> >>> I am sure that wide tires are great. At this point I would only do >>> them on a bike really designed for them. >>> >>> Just my 2 cents. Good luck figuring things out. >>> >>> Art Lewy >>> Seattle >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/XYw7Gwt7qBs/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/006391ea-8f2c-438a-af12-672d948fdc37%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8CAA8D25-87C0-4C01-8321-C4373A6C988C%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: 650b clearance on Rambouillet?
This is why I seem to swap my Redwood from 650b to 700c on an annual basis! I think I'm sticking with my 650b setup for a bit - IMO if you're after fenders AND 47mm tires, then this sort of hits the limit of Tektro R559s as a 55m fender width (at a bare minimum for 47mm) doesn't seem to play well with the quick release of the R559s. Dia Compe 750s don't seem to help either as the narrowness limits where the fender can fit vertically. I settled on Mafac Raids, which I cleaned up and upgraded pads to v-brake style and everything works great - setup with 58mm Velo Orange fenders - and with the straddle cable released on the Raids I can remove wheels without deflating tires. All of this is not for everyone. Had I not picked up an 80s Specialized Sequoia that is virtually identical in dimensions, I likely would've gone back to 700c on the Redwood. On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 9:30:30 PM UTC-6, Wyatt wrote: > > This is an interesting dissenting opinion Art! > > I hope to avoid too much trouble with brakes, as I'm already running > Tektro r556s with seemingly all of the clearance in the world, but I am > afraid I'll hear your bit about Mother Superior's advice echoing in my ears > if/when this project goes sideways. I guess the dream is that the > two-wheelset plan would allow for the best of both worlds, but we'll see. > > On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 10:48:29 AM UTC+8, Arthur Lewy wrote: >> >> Greetings Wyatt >> >> I will echo comments above. With DiaCompe 750s I easily fit 584x42s on my >> green Ramb. The chainstays are the biggest limitation: there was 3 mm >> clearance on each side. My wheels were true and over 3 years I had no >> problems, although it was a source of worry. >> >> All of this said, I will share my experience with the conversion. Going >> to 650 B on the Ramb, for me led to a series of compromises, like >> shortening my cranks. Using long centerpulls was a hassle: they are less >> efficient and due to my own limited skills, they are hard to adjust. My >> beloved Mark’s rack did not play well with the centerpull cable. I took >> off the rack but then lost capability to use my Shopsack. >> >> This summer I drove back to Seattle from Brooklyn with my beloved lab >> Princess Buttercup. We drove through Canada to stop by Lakes Huron and >> Superior. From the first day she ran in, fetched balls, dove for rocks >> and it seemed she would swim to Wisconsin. It reminded me of what Mother >> Superior said to fraulein Maria about doing what you were born to do. >> >> A few weeks ago I slapped the 700c wheels back on the Ramb along with the >> Silver brakes, the Mark’s rack, basket, and Shopsack. In the absence of >> Ruffy Tuffys, I put on Vitoria Corsa Courses. There’s gobs of tire room >> and the Ramb just sings again in a way it didn’t do with the supposedly >> cushier 650Bs. It is such a joy. >> >> I am sure that wide tires are great. At this point I would only do >> them on a bike really designed for them. >> >> Just my 2 cents. Good luck figuring things out. >> >> Art Lewy >> Seattle >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/006391ea-8f2c-438a-af12-672d948fdc37%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
I have a friend that has a 59 MIT Atlantis with drops and he loves it. He just set it up with a shorter stem. gary On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 9:45:19 AM UTC-5, Matt Beecher wrote: > > I did on the older 56 and liked it. I normally ride a 58-60 cm frame > though. > > Best regards, > Matt Beecher > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f12fb676-8fed-44f0-a8aa-d0c50976d86a%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS- Dura Ace fixed-free wheelset
Make me an offer, :) On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 7:32:00 PM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote: > > Uh oh, nearly purpose-built for my coldset Quickbeam... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1663a116-95cd-4479-9f8d-0d1298d5e7bd%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Chain rubbing rear tire on Clem.
Mark, my memory of this may be incorrect based on I bought a first-gen frame and used Sugino cranks. At any rate someone else said the problem happens with Suginos, too (I never noticed it) so basically I don't know what I'm talking about. It's been that kind of week for me! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8faa945d-a52f-4583-8091-f709eab15c01%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Walking boots -- not entirely unrelated to cycling
Hi Patrick: I walk a lot. Check out the Red Wing Postman Chukka model number 9196. These (and the "Foreman Chukka" variant thereof) have been my main shoe for the last ten years both for cyclocommuting (now resoled with stiff Vibram neoprene soles) and for walking six miles round trip to work two or three days a week. They take a resole nicely, and they look great. The original crepe soles are very comfortable but also wear fairly quickly with all the miles, hence the resoling with my local cobbler. That said, they are great for walking on city streets, but I had a second pair resoled with a blown rubber Vibram hiking sole. These work well for hiking on dirt roads, but one unexpected downside - the chukka design is loose fitting around the ankle, which is ordinarily a feature, but when you walk on loose surfaces it is frequent that pebbles and debris get kicked up into the collar of the shoe and end up between your foot and the insole. I found myself stopping not infrequently to empty out my shoes. On dirt trail hikes, I usually wear ordinary trail-running shoes (Brooks Cascadia in my case). James Black Los Angeles, CA On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 8:28:56 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Thank you all again. I will read Jack Loudon's linked overview site before > I choose, but even with all the criticisms, Redwing still gets much praise; > will take a look at the Chukkas particularly, since these look like the > sort of shoe that the cheap Bata "Safari Boots" we grew up wearing in Kenya > ought to have been; I certainly put miles of walking and cycling in wearing > those, and of course your big game guides always work them. And they'd go > with the canvas bush hat with venting screens that we boys also wore, one > of which I mean to buy to replace my aging straw cowboy hat. (We -- teenage > boy peer group -- used to pull out the vent screens to use at the bottom of > the bowls of pot pipes we home-made from the local bamboo; the screens kept > the seeds and other debris from falling down and plugging the stem.) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2b482584-f9e8-46df-aad0-ae0aaec69b7b%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Act of Thoughtfulness
For a week in the spring I carry around branch loppers (technical name) to cut off branches that extend into the trails and sidewalks that are used by cyclists. I was thinking of upgrading to a rechargeable mini chainsaw this year. I've had someone stop their car and tell me "I see what you are doing there.. thanks I bike through there all of the time." Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/406137f0-f9b9-4331-ba00-9fee0d8c18d6%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
I did on the older 56 and liked it. I normally ride a 58-60 cm frame though. Best regards, Matt Beecher -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/96a999f0-3beb-4060-bf94-6e2e2e9dca96%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Chain rubbing rear tire on Clem.
Huh. My Original Clementine complete came with Silver cranks. I thought the Clem was designed along with several components, including the Bosco bar and the Silver cranks? I may have that wrong. I guess you are saying in the early design stage it was built around using the Sugino crank? Still, with several iterations of Clem Smith Jr., you would think, if they saw it as an issue, they would have addressed it with a slightly longer bb spindle. I wonder if it's even more pronounced on the latest, longer chainstay models. I do seem to recall my Big Dummy may have experienced this on occasion. Certainly seems to be several easy fixes if it's a bother. On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 12:37:45 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The conflict is the bike was originally spec'd with Sugino cranks, then > Riv switched to the very low Q Silver. The ones I've ridden were so "off" > to me that I kept missing the pedals because I expected them to be wider > apart. If I owned one now I would swap the stock BB (I think it's 110) for > a longer one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/161d96b7-a615-47bf-a962-f80af0764cf0%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?
I have a bunch of parts in need of a 700c frame, so I’ve been pondering my next build. I miss my old Atlantis, though I traded it for my Roadeo, which I love. I’m thinking about getting a MIT Atlantis, but the reach on the MIT model seems longer than the older iterations. Albatrosses aren’t for me—I get wrist pain on longer rides. Has anyone set up their MIT Atlantis with drops or Albastaches? Are they really more intended for bars like the Albastache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f36dc5a7-01ad-40ac-bdc8-02cebc37b092%40googlegroups.com.
