[RBW] Enjoy

[Curtis McKenzie]

Hello All,

I hope that you and yours will find happiness and fulfillment in your daily
life.

Peace,

Curtis

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Re: [RBW] Clem saddle?

[Eric Daume]

Wow, I’m surprised anyone wants one of those. That saddle came on the Clem
I had, but I only made it a few hundred yards before I turned around to put
a different saddle on. It was that immediately painful.

On Thursday, December 24, 2020, jeffbog...@hotmail.com <
jeffbogdanov...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Anyone know what kind of saddle was included in the original Clem
> complete? (the grey vinyl one)
>
> I'd like to get one for my sister to put on her new Cheviot. Thanks!
>
> Jeff
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[RBW] Re: Clem saddle?

[Garth]

They're made by Velo and they must be OEM for them, though despite the 
cover stitching variation they appear a no frill version of the Tour Plush 
E-Grip model. I'm pretty sure Rive still has some for sale via the phone as 
they're listed online. It's one of those off-menu items. 
On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 4:34:32 PM UTC-5 jeffbog...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

>
> Anyone know what kind of saddle was included in the original Clem 
> complete? (the grey vinyl one) 
>
> I'd like to get one for my sister to put on her new Cheviot. Thanks!
>
> Jeff
>

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[RBW] Clem saddle?

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Anyone know what kind of saddle was included in the original Clem complete? 
(the grey vinyl one) 

I'd like to get one for my sister to put on her new Cheviot. Thanks!

Jeff

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Re: [RBW] When to Abandon a Bike Project and Move On

[Collin A]

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and ideas. I think I will terminate the 
project, just trying to make too many things happen at once. I did have 
this bike built up before and it rode nicely, so there isn't too much of a 
need to do a "good enough" build for the time being.

Luckily most of the components I still have serve as great spares for bike 
in the current fleet, or at least the nice parts (XTR hubs, etc.), but I 
will be posting some of the other stuff for sale (nitto bars, BB, cranks, 
etc) after the holidays as well.

Now to just prevent myself from picking up another project bike here in the 
next few months...

Cheers and happy holidays,
Collin

On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 10:15:57 AM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:

> Having successfully done it at no cost (friend with a tig welder and 
> experience welding prototype medical equipment, rattlecan touch up) to a 
> bike that became a favorite (and I imagine sorta close to an original 26" 
> Atlantis) I have to disagree. Even has a 700C to 26" Rivendell fork.
>
> [image: IMG_0005.JPG][image: IMG_9916(1).JPG]
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 9:32:33 AM UTC-5 ryan.merri...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> IMHO, when you start talking about adding canti posts, it's time for a 
>> different frame. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 12:43:43 PM UTC-6 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so short story long:
>>>
>>> Bought a cool looking steel frame from a local shop that was built as 
>>> part of a small-batch of prototypes for a project that never got off the 
>>> ground. This was bought when I made the move from the hilly Bay Area to the 
>>> flatlands of Sacramento, so I initially started building it as a single 
>>> speed levee gravel bike, but clearance and braking (with long reach 
>>> calipers) was a bit meh, especially when it got muddy (sticky clays out 
>>> here vs. decomposed granular rock in the bay). So rather than be satisfied, 
>>> I began the modifications planned, which included:
>>>
>>>- (achieved) A different fork with more clearance, fender mounts 
>>>(cause why not?) and canti posts
>>>- (achieved) Crimped stays for more clearance
>>>- (TBD) Adding canti posts to frame, along with more crimping in the 
>>>rear for even more clearance
>>>- (TBD) building single speed dedicated wheel, and the original 
>>>wheels are now sold
>>>- (TBD) brakes, started with R559s, but then switched to mini-motos 
>>>which I have since traded for some paul cantis to be used on the 
>>> Appaloosa
>>>- (TBD) Cockpit, have stem, bars and seatpost, but no brake levers 
>>>(see above, currently do not have brakes option finalized)
>>>- (Sorta figured out) Drivetrain, got the cranks/rings, pedals, but 
>>>no freewheel yet.
>>>
>>> The use has since been changed now to also fit more of a commuter that I 
>>> am more comfortable with locking up, along with a dedicated rack/basket 
>>> combo and generally be a bike that I don't have to worry about as much when 
>>> it comes to maintenance, storing inside, etc. but it is trending to be a 
>>> more expensive bike than I'd like.
>>>
>>> The sticking issue in my mind was/is that ultimately, its not that 
>>> unique of a bike in terms of features (fenders, cantis, 650x42 clearance, 
>>> etc.) and I'm spending a decent amount of time and effort achieving that 
>>> aspect. The visuals are unique and it rides nicely, but i'd rather have a 
>>> unique feature bike than a unique looking one if I'm spending all this 
>>> effort on it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin in Sactown
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Agree that knowing the project base would go a long way in 
 understanding how good the potential end result would be!  I am generally 
 pretty impatient when I get a new project going but bear in mind there are 
 still new-in-box Rivs from the mid-2000's popping up every now and again - 
 there is no deadline for this build beyond your own expectations.  If it's 
 an exciting build or something that would be very useful to you once 
 complete, I'd just hang it up and wait until you've got the budget, 
 supply, 
 and bandwidth to finish it. Might be three months, might be three years - 
 and that's OK.  If you're not feeling that attachment, or need the liquid 
 cash, then maybe different story.  
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Philip Williamson]

How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.

(Chrome ate my longer post)

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:

> From today's BLAHG:
>
> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not modeled 
> after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a trail bike. 
> You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude to ride it 
> on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>
> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, please--sorry 
> but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the name I think the 
> latter is unlikely : (
>
> - Nathan in PDX
>

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[RBW] Re: Fender install on '96 All-rounder

[RichS]

Benz, thanks for that recommendation. I've used aluminum spacers or leather 
but the hex standoffs are really classy. Good to have a variety of doodads 
on hand when installing fenders!

Best,
Rich in ATL 

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 2:37:25 PM UTC-5 Craig Montgomery wrote:

> What great little doodahs. Just ordered a few of varying lengths just to 
> have fun with them. 
>
> Craig in Tucson
>
> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 8:43:36 PM UTC-7 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, 
> CA wrote:
>
>> Harth,
>>
>> From one All-Rounder owner to another, if you measure how long of a 
>> spacer you need to bridge that gap, I may be able to send you a brass M5 
>> standoff of the correct length with M5 male and M5 female ends. Kind of 
>> like this 
>> .
>>  
>> BTW, because All-Rounders have semi-horizontal dropouts (at least mine 
>> does), you actually don't want to have too nice of a fender line or you may 
>> not be able to remove the rear wheel without deflating the tire.
>>
>> I use standoffs with success on a few bikes to adjust the fender line 
>> (not my All-Rounder, which is currently fenderless):
>>
>> [image: Standoff.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 10:55:05 AM UTC-8 har...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> The chainstay bridge is pretty far away from the wheel on these old 
>>> frames.  I'm about to install new fenders to replace the beat-up and 
>>> butchered old ones I used for far too long.  I am thinking I'll just use a 
>>> lengthy cylindrical bolt spacer to run from the bridge to the fender, but 
>>> that seems like it will move around a lot.  If you have put fenders on one 
>>> of these, what do you use?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Harth
>>> Portland
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Bike Pics with Christmas Themed Background

[David Hays]

Beautiful picture Mark. It looks like a scene from 'It's a Wonderful Life.'
David Hays
Buffalo, New York

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

> Okay, not over the top holiday lighting, but taken in the middle of a 
> genuine snow blizzard, so hits the White Christmas theme...
> [image: IMG_20201216_213217141.jpg][image: 
> IMG_20201216_213203951(1).jpg][image: 
> IMG_20201216_213539726.jpg]
> (Random house in town, not where I live.)
> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 11:50:53 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> That was fascinating. Thankfully though, craftsmanship doesn't have to be 
>> just for the uber-wealthy and oftentimes the difference in cost can be 
>> offset by smart design, planning & a paring down of real needs vs. just 
>> wants. For example, Grant rightly points out that the quality of mid-line 
>> components is now so high that you're not really buying much more in a 
>> practical sense by spending 3 to 4 times that on the marquee products.
>>
>> Is it better to have one beautifully functional bicycle than 3 sharply 
>> focused ones? What sensible compromises can you live with to make that 
>> achievable?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 10:06:06 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> This is a link to a recent NYer article about an NYC carpenter who 
>>> builds to a very high level for those with deep pockets
>>>
>>>  
>>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/30/the-art-of-building-the-impossible
>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:00 AM Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 If it was the 2019 tour you visited our house! We focused on the 
 history somewhat & did go into detail on how they attempted to survive the 
 Texas summers prior to AC. The tour itself raises tens of thousands of 
 dollars, all of which is spent on local charities and schools and we 
 thoroughly enjoyed opening our home for people to see. 

 To answer your question; there are absolutely craftsmen today who can & 
 do build with that kind of quality, unfortunately the market has shown 
 little interest past saving money & getting more for less. Look to our 
 endless suburbs for examples, you just can't physically build a 4,000+ 
 square foot home for $500,000 and put anything resembling quality into it, 
 the metrics don't work out.

 Thankfully there are still people who do appreciate quality 
 craftsmanship & are prepared to pay the premium required to acquire such 
 items. I would count fans of Rivendell in that category?





 On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 8:26:43 AM UTC-6 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> Phillip, 
>
> I really enjoy cycling down Swiss Avenue.
>
> For the unfamiliar it's a neighborhood just east of downtown Dallas 
> known for it's beautiful and classic homes from the early 1900's.
>
> Those classic old Victorian style homes are really remarkable. 
>
> I'm glad owners have invested in making them look so nice.
>
> I wonder if there are craftsman today that could build with that level 
> of detail incorporating artistic style with functionality. 
> I would think there still are some out there. 
> They still do it with bicycles after all.
>
> We  plan on a least one more
>  'looking at Christmas lights'
>  excursions and will make a point  to go by Swiss and look for your old
> Santa. If I spot it I'll try for a picture and post.
>
> One Mother's Day I took my wife on a tour of homes along Swiss Ave 
> which was for some sort of fund raiser.
>
> It's impressive the details the turn of the century architects 
> designed into those homes.
>
> I learned before air conditioning was common they designed a number of 
> tricks to maximize cooling effects for hot Texas summers.
>
> Safe pedaling to all,
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT 650b rear wheel, 130 spacing

['allenmichael' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you to the list. I found a good swap.

On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 4:00:01 PM UTC-8 allenmichael wrote:

> Does anyone have a 650b rear wheel, 130 spacing, they would have an 
> interest in trading for a similar wheel with a red Chris King hub and a 
> Synergy rim? Or selling. 
>
> The Chris King is beautiful, but I spend a lot of time coasting, and the 
> sound makes me crazy. I have a Heron road that I love but rarely ride 
> because of the noise.
>
> And I'm in southern California if that matters.
>

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Re: [RBW] When to Abandon a Bike Project and Move On

[Ryan M.]

IMHO, when you start talking about adding canti posts, it's time for a 
different frame. 

On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 12:43:43 PM UTC-6 Collin A wrote:

> Ok, so short story long:
>
> Bought a cool looking steel frame from a local shop that was built as part 
> of a small-batch of prototypes for a project that never got off the ground. 
> This was bought when I made the move from the hilly Bay Area to the 
> flatlands of Sacramento, so I initially started building it as a single 
> speed levee gravel bike, but clearance and braking (with long reach 
> calipers) was a bit meh, especially when it got muddy (sticky clays out 
> here vs. decomposed granular rock in the bay). So rather than be satisfied, 
> I began the modifications planned, which included:
>
>- (achieved) A different fork with more clearance, fender mounts 
>(cause why not?) and canti posts
>- (achieved) Crimped stays for more clearance
>- (TBD) Adding canti posts to frame, along with more crimping in the 
>rear for even more clearance
>- (TBD) building single speed dedicated wheel, and the original wheels 
>are now sold
>- (TBD) brakes, started with R559s, but then switched to mini-motos 
>which I have since traded for some paul cantis to be used on the Appaloosa
>- (TBD) Cockpit, have stem, bars and seatpost, but no brake levers 
>(see above, currently do not have brakes option finalized)
>- (Sorta figured out) Drivetrain, got the cranks/rings, pedals, but no 
>freewheel yet.
>
> The use has since been changed now to also fit more of a commuter that I 
> am more comfortable with locking up, along with a dedicated rack/basket 
> combo and generally be a bike that I don't have to worry about as much when 
> it comes to maintenance, storing inside, etc. but it is trending to be a 
> more expensive bike than I'd like.
>
> The sticking issue in my mind was/is that ultimately, its not that unique 
> of a bike in terms of features (fenders, cantis, 650x42 clearance, etc.) 
> and I'm spending a decent amount of time and effort achieving that aspect. 
> The visuals are unique and it rides nicely, but i'd rather have a unique 
> feature bike than a unique looking one if I'm spending all this effort on 
> it.
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sactown
>
> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 9:46:31 AM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Agree that knowing the project base would go a long way in understanding 
>> how good the potential end result would be!  I am generally pretty 
>> impatient when I get a new project going but bear in mind there are still 
>> new-in-box Rivs from the mid-2000's popping up every now and again - there 
>> is no deadline for this build beyond your own expectations.  If it's an 
>> exciting build or something that would be very useful to you once complete, 
>> I'd just hang it up and wait until you've got the budget, supply, and 
>> bandwidth to finish it. Might be three months, might be three years - and 
>> that's OK.  If you're not feeling that attachment, or need the liquid cash, 
>> then maybe different story.  
>
>

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