Re: [RBW] Re: Frame schedule 2021

[ericyue...@gmail.com]

Thanks, Hugh; I appreciate the encouragement!

On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 7:37:05 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Eric,
>
> That's awesome. I like how first panic set in and to mitigate that panic 
> you started working out the numbers. I think you're going to love the Sam.
>
> Hugh
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021, 7:15 PM ericyue...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> I've found this group to be a source of tons of useful information but 
>> haven't had much to add as I've mainly been in a sort of pre-contemplative 
>> space about buying a Riv.  I don't know what happened, but once the Sam 
>> pre-orders got announced and I realized I wouldn't be able to get one again 
>> for over a year some sort of panic set in and I started thinking seriously 
>> about it.  I emailed Riv early last week and asked about the cost for a 
>> full build, got a quick reply, and then started doing some financial 
>> plotting.Wednesday at noon came and went, but it wasn't until I was a 
>> couple IPAs deep that evening that I finally pulled the trigger on 60 Sam.  
>> I'm very excited for the whole process as well as all the different types 
>> of rides it'll enable me to do. (I've historically been a "go fast" urban 
>> rider, but I'm now splitting time between the city of San Francisco and the 
>> Peninsula south of it, so I'm stoked to get a bike that'll be appropriate 
>> for all the terrain I encounter and can take a load)  I look forward to 
>> contributing more as everything starts to happen.  
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 3:16:49 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> Just my opinion we all know what they're like and such. I don't think 
>>> the tenor of his original post was all that bad. I originally thought you 
>>> both knew each other well and it was just an inside joke. My second thought 
>>> was why point out something so trivial. I mean look what it's created all 
>>> these back and forth emails of discontent. I kinda wanted to be mad at him 
>>> for it. But I can't be. I can see how on the interwebs suggestions like 
>>> this can be frustrating and seemingly demeaning, He really didn't need to 
>>> go into the dog face name thing. TBH, the suggestion actually worked for 
>>> me. I haven't been very active on this group for a while and the new format 
>>> is maddening. So Mark I appreciate it the nudge.
>>>
>>> Last thoughts, (I am paraphrasing here) I remember Jim I believe a long 
>>> time ago once saying, think long and hard before you post something, 
>>> consider how it might come across? This is especially true when you can't 
>>> see a person's face or hear their voice inflection. And may I respectfully 
>>> suggest to Mark using this very sage advice from our very own moderator.
>>>
>>> This group has afforded me some of the best friends I have ever made in 
>>> my long life. I consider it a gem. There will no doubt be those that rub me 
>>> the wrong way as I probably do to others, perhaps this very email response 
>>> has irritated someone (s) just know that's not my intention...
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 10:46 AM Chris Birkenmaier  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Mark it’s really not worth my effort but my FULL NAME appears next to 
 my dog avatar.  Can you not see it?  I can see it and I can read your full 
 name next to your non-photo blue blob head avatar.  Other than slapping my 
 knuckles on not doing a search, I’m confused why you had to do a Google 
 search to investigate who I am.  I have very good manners but don’t feel 
 as 
 though I need to have my full name on posts at the top AND  then also add 
 the name Chris again at the bottom.  All I can guess is  whatever format 
 you are viewing doesn’t display it and you are saying I don’t have a name. 
   Please move on from being concerned about my full name and whether or 
 not 
 I’m a man. Check around, there are a lot of female Chris’ out there.
 Chris Birkenmaier 

 On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 11:55:39 PM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

> Chris: Re: Lovely Bicycle, occasional, but not a regular. She was a 
> very good writer and photographer, and had some interesting takes on the 
> world of bicycles. Now she's in Ireland with a family and a yarn knitting 
> business. 
>
> I was not suggesting that you were hiding anything, but speaking of 
> friendly manners, if your name does not appear at the top of your post, 
> it 
> is good manners to sign at the bottom. As I explained,  I found out who 
> you 
> were by...putting your email remnant into the "search" box. Going 
> through, 
> I found some of your posts signed "Chris" and mistakenly assumed male. 
> (Though my odds were high for being correct based on overall members; at 
> least those who participate.) I don't know what else I got wrong. I made 
> no 
> attempt to guess your dog's name!;^)
>
> Not to belabor 

[RBW] Re: Question about 73mm bottom bracket shells

[Ray Varella]

Thank you Benz, that clarifies things. 
It’s an academic question as I don’t have a bike with a 73mm shell. 
I own plenty of parts to keep a few bikes on the road for the foreseeable 
future. 
I can’t really justify adding a new standard with plenty of good stuff on 
hand. 

Cheers,
Ray

On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 4:48:16 PM UTC-8 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> You shouldn't change the spindle length because the spindle length is 
> primarily used to determine chainline.
>
> What you should do is to look for a BB spindle length 122mm, but with a 
> 2.5mm offset*. Then you can use a lipless mounting ring to secure the 
> shorter cartridge BB in the wider BB shell. Not all Shimano left side 
> mounting rings have lips; some are lipless like the Phil Wood, so don't 
> feel like you need to spend as much on a mounting ring as on the entire 
> cartridge BB.
>
> BTW, you may or may not run into clearance issues with the crank butting 
> up against the BB shell (left) and/or Cartridge BB (right), and you may or 
> may not run into the BB shell running out of threads on the left side.
>
> Good luck!
>
> ** Assuming 5mm offset is to the right, so (73-68)/2 should be deducted to 
> give the same chainline.*
> On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 1:47:23 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> If I have a crank that requires a 122mm spindle with a +5mm offset on a 
>> 68mm bottom bracket shell,
>> Will a 127mm +5mm offset work with a 68mm cartridge bottom bracket with 
>> something like Phil Wood mounting rings?
>> Is that clear?
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Question about 73mm bottom bracket shells

[Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA]

You shouldn't change the spindle length because the spindle length is 
primarily used to determine chainline.

What you should do is to look for a BB spindle length 122mm, but with a 
2.5mm offset*. Then you can use a lipless mounting ring to secure the 
shorter cartridge BB in the wider BB shell. Not all Shimano left side 
mounting rings have lips; some are lipless like the Phil Wood, so don't 
feel like you need to spend as much on a mounting ring as on the entire 
cartridge BB.

BTW, you may or may not run into clearance issues with the crank butting up 
against the BB shell (left) and/or Cartridge BB (right), and you may or may 
not run into the BB shell running out of threads on the left side.

Good luck!

** Assuming 5mm offset is to the right, so (73-68)/2 should be deducted to 
give the same chainline.*
On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 1:47:23 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:

> If I have a crank that requires a 122mm spindle with a +5mm offset on a 
> 68mm bottom bracket shell,
> Will a 127mm +5mm offset work with a 68mm cartridge bottom bracket with 
> something like Phil Wood mounting rings?
> Is that clear?
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Personal Experiences Request.

[Hugh Smitham]

Hiya Bill,

I appreciate the compliment on the previous build. Good to hear your wheel
tire combination work.

On this build I'm going with a more around town lighter setup.

Since I posted this on the forum I believe I've decided I'd like to run a
tire from 47 mm up to~55mm. I may start out with a WTB horizon or byway.
For rims I am leaning towards the Velo Orange Voyager rims in 650B setup
tubeless. Unfortunately they're out of stock!!

Albatross bars. I really want to keep my cockpit clean so I'm considering
downtube shifters or stem shifters. My preference would be the downtube
shifters, just simpler and cleaner lines. I don't care about indexing so
friction is my preference. Drivetrain 9-speed with a white industries
double crank.

Small Nitto rack up front and small Nitto rear rack both of which I have.
I'm considering Paul Minimoto brakes and I have Paul brake levers. Vice
silver pedals to complete the build.

Hugh

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, 12:29 PM Bill Fulford  wrote:

> Hugh, I run g ones 2.25 on my Atlantis with Atlas rims. The tire pushes
> the limit but does work. The tires are solid on turns. I have an older
> model Atlantis so they barely fit on the frame. I’m curious how you plan on
> setting up your bike. Your previous Atlantis is one of my favorites, a true
> touring bike!
>
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 8:32:18 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> So as not to offend any long-term members on this list I did first do a
>> search and did not find an answer to my question? I believe back in 2018
>> William Henderson in PDX after an accident had a wheel set built with the
>> same hubs I'm considering, if he could chime in that would be excellent.
>>
>> On with the question,
>>
>> Does anybody have experience with the Velo Orange Grand Cru 135mm QR
>> Shimano hub? Specifically, has it held up over time? How does it feel? Does
>> it spin freely? How does it sound? Meaning is it silent or does it have a
>> loud ratcheting noise? What were your initial impressions of the build
>> quality and then later impressions.
>>
>> It's my aesthetic, I just see my new to me Atlantis built with silver
>> shiny hubs otherwise I'd build my new wheels with a DT Swiss 350 rear hub
>> and be done. I'm considering a White Industries hub but that's close to
>> $200 more over the VO hub. Just debating whether the extra $$ is worth it?
>>
>> I'm going with the Velocity Cliffhangers, wish they came in silver :(
>> Planning on running schwabe g ones in 2.25" evolutions for cush and speed.
>> If you have a recommendation on rims that will allow for tubeless, decent
>> tire profile in silver please lmk. FYI not going with the HED Belgian rims
>> at $165 nope!
>>
>> I'm also looking for the Riv stem shifters currently out of stock on the
>> Riv Hq site. If anyone has a pair that they're willing to part with let me
>> know?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Hugh in Sunny SoCal Los Angeles to be exact.
>>
>> Since I'm honorable and might as well ask another question. I plan on
>> running aluminum albatross bars any recommendations for grips. My
>> preference is a easily removed grip like the Ergon which I have. Is there
>> an esi like grip that's removes simply?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

[Den John]

yep, I've been able to get barcons to shift 10 sprockets too. I've also
lost that little domed nut. Fell off on a dark, rainy commute home and I
couldn't find it. I replaced it with a nut from a toe clip which so far
hasn't fallen off.

Cheers,
Johnny

On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 22:22, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I owned 2 or 3 pairs of the original issue Silvers, and fixed the slipping
> with blue Loctite. The bigger problem with the Silvers, in my case, was
> breaking the body when the bike fell over.
>
> I prefer the old Suntour barcons and have built up a small stash. I can
> shift 10 cogs with my right on on only a bit more than 90* of travel (8-sp
> road rd, DA 7401, IIRC), and the shifting is perfectly accurate, and they
> body doesn't break when the bike falls over.
>
> I use blue Loctite on the Suntours too, but only for that easily lost,
> cosmetic, chromed, domed locknut.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 4:22 AM Den John  wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone. I'm in Europe so those Simplex Retrofriction come up
>> every so often on places other than ebay. I'll have a look out for them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 04:13, Graham Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> I had the same issue with mine a decade ago. Never cared for them. My
>>> solution was a used set of simplex retro friction from eBay. They bolt
>>> right on to the pods you have and happily shift my 9spd system smooth as
>>> butter with no slipping, no need for repeat tightening in 10 years. All
>>> with no clicks.
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[RBW] Question about 73mm bottom bracket shells

[Ray Varella]

If I have a crank that requires a 122mm spindle with a +5mm offset on a 
68mm bottom bracket shell,
Will a 127mm +5mm offset work with a 68mm cartridge bottom bracket with 
something like Phil Wood mounting rings?
Is that clear?

Thank you 
Ray

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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

[Patrick Moore]

I owned 2 or 3 pairs of the original issue Silvers, and fixed the slipping
with blue Loctite. The bigger problem with the Silvers, in my case, was
breaking the body when the bike fell over.

I prefer the old Suntour barcons and have built up a small stash. I can
shift 10 cogs with my right on on only a bit more than 90* of travel (8-sp
road rd, DA 7401, IIRC), and the shifting is perfectly accurate, and they
body doesn't break when the bike falls over.

I use blue Loctite on the Suntours too, but only for that easily lost,
cosmetic, chromed, domed locknut.


On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 4:22 AM Den John  wrote:

> Thanks everyone. I'm in Europe so those Simplex Retrofriction come up
> every so often on places other than ebay. I'll have a look out for them.
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
> On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 04:13, Graham Spencer  wrote:
>
>> I had the same issue with mine a decade ago. Never cared for them. My
>> solution was a used set of simplex retro friction from eBay. They bolt
>> right on to the pods you have and happily shift my 9spd system smooth as
>> butter with no slipping, no need for repeat tightening in 10 years. All
>> with no clicks.
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Re: [RBW] FS: Wheelset, marathon supreme tires, sugino triple crankset

[Andrew Letton]

 PM sent re: wheelset!cheers,Andrew
On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:36:30 AM GMT+11, jeffbog...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:  
 
 Wheelset: 700 silver cr-18 rims, shimano hubs, 36 spokes, 8-10 speed --- 
$95/setSchwalbe Marathon Supreme tires 700 x 50 --- $80/pairSugino triple 
crankset, brand new in box --- $125
JeffMobile, Alabama

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Re: [RBW] The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?

[Patrick Moore]

This just in, for fingers. I finally got my Veruskeleta order, containing
among other things a pair of lightly lined leather gloves, IIRC, ex-Stasi
or at least, ex-East German or ex-Soviet-bloc military: very nice, thick,
supple leather, very well stitched, with a single-layer, heavy-ish cloth
lining, and wrist straps. I wear a Medium, bought XL -- about 1/2" gap
between glove and fingertips over bare hands -- for that air gap, which
really does keep your fingertips warmer, and also so I can wear my DeFeet
knit gloves underneath. It all works very well, and the DeFeets + Stasi
gloves still leaves an air gap at fingers' ends, and the combination is as
warm as or warmer than silk glove liners and much more expensive PI lobster
mittens (the kind with 3 finger pouches, not 2). Jackboots on backorder.

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[RBW] Re: Personal Experiences Request.

[Bill Fulford]

Hugh, I run g ones 2.25 on my Atlantis with Atlas rims. The tire pushes the 
limit but does work. The tires are solid on turns. I have an older model 
Atlantis so they barely fit on the frame. I’m curious how you plan on 
setting up your bike. Your previous Atlantis is one of my favorites, a true 
touring bike!

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 8:32:18 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> So as not to offend any long-term members on this list I did first do a 
> search and did not find an answer to my question? I believe back in 2018 
> William Henderson in PDX after an accident had a wheel set built with the 
> same hubs I'm considering, if he could chime in that would be excellent.
>
> On with the question,
>
> Does anybody have experience with the Velo Orange Grand Cru 135mm QR 
> Shimano hub? Specifically, has it held up over time? How does it feel? Does 
> it spin freely? How does it sound? Meaning is it silent or does it have a 
> loud ratcheting noise? What were your initial impressions of the build 
> quality and then later impressions.
>
> It's my aesthetic, I just see my new to me Atlantis built with silver 
> shiny hubs otherwise I'd build my new wheels with a DT Swiss 350 rear hub 
> and be done. I'm considering a White Industries hub but that's close to 
> $200 more over the VO hub. Just debating whether the extra $$ is worth it? 
>
> I'm going with the Velocity Cliffhangers, wish they came in silver :( 
> Planning on running schwabe g ones in 2.25" evolutions for cush and speed. 
> If you have a recommendation on rims that will allow for tubeless, decent 
> tire profile in silver please lmk. FYI not going with the HED Belgian rims 
> at $165 nope! 
>
> I'm also looking for the Riv stem shifters currently out of stock on the 
> Riv Hq site. If anyone has a pair that they're willing to part with let me 
> know? 
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hugh in Sunny SoCal Los Angeles to be exact. 
>
> Since I'm honorable and might as well ask another question. I plan on 
> running aluminum albatross bars any recommendations for grips. My 
> preference is a easily removed grip like the Ergon which I have. Is there 
> an esi like grip that's removes simply?
>

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[RBW] Re: about the IRD Alpina-d front derailer,,,

[Joe Bernard]

But that's not what IRD says. The copy on the website refers to types of 
shifters, not type of bar or bike. As I said they reference that the fd is 
designed to index with Shimano STI brifters and possibly Campy Ergo, 
systems that are dependent on the derailleur working exactly right with 
those shifters. It doesn't matter with friction shifting. 


On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 1:36:51 AM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:

> Assumptions based on bar type sure are foggy. Drop bars can be mounted on 
> almost anything and not limiting of shifters, thumbs have been mounted up 
> on the flats and Genevalle puts them on brake levers. 
>
> I suspect IRD's differentiation is about bottom bracket width and "drop 
> bar" being equated to 68mm "road" BB standard. Some road FDs just don't 
> have the outward throw to go to the big ring and the extra 5 mm that 73mm 
> BBs require. It's an odd thing for a maker/marketer of them to be discrete 
> about, or not know outright when you ask them to differentiate.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 11:23:06 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I did some searching on this and what I see is IRD says it's optimized 
>> for Shimano STI road shifters and can work with Campy Ergo, too. The 
>> "dropbar" nomenclature is a bit deceiving, it's the shifters most folks use 
>> on drops they're concerned with because the derailleur has to work with 
>> front indexing. Assuming that fd works with the chainring sizes you're 
>> using, it'll be fine with any friction shifter. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 7:12:00 PM UTC-8 samcr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> I recently purchased Riv's Silver triple crankset and I look forward to 
>>> getting it spinning soon. I'm looking to buy a front derailer, and I 
>>> reached out to Riv for recommendations. One of them was the IRD Alpina, 
>>> which I'm sure some (or many) of you ride with. 
>>> Here's the thing - when I look at the IRD "Alpina-d" online, I've read 
>>> that it's "only compatible with drop bars." I reached out to IRD, they say 
>>> this is so. (To be fair, I didn't think to ask the "why".) I've seen the 
>>> "Alpina-f" is for flat bars, but no one has them in stock any more, and the 
>>> IRD website only lists one version of the derailer (pictured as the 
>>> "Alpina-d".
>>>
>>> What I'm riding - flat/semi-swept back bars (and perhaps even more swept 
>>> back bars some day), with the triple crank and thumb shifters in friction 
>>> mode, and a bottom pull set-up on my frame. Will this IRD Alpina-d front 
>>> derailer work with my set up? Any experience and wisdom is much 
>>> appreciated. Thanks much! 
>>>
>>> -Sosa
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Saluki, 54cm or thereabouts

[Brendan Willard in SF]

Just a note to say that the Saluki has been sold to a very happy friend of 
the OP.  Thanks to the many folks who inquired about it, and apologies if I 
didn't get back to all of you.  Heading down to the shed now to finish the 
Saluki!

Brendan in SF

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 8:18:09 PM UTC-8 Applegate wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Thank you, thank you, and thank you for the counsel and assistance. The 
> last week's been a bit of a busy pitch, and I am sorry for leaving my end 
> of the line dead when help was on the other end. My Riv hopeful  had indeed 
> already done due diligence on that great North Smithfield Saluki, but it 
> hadn't worked out at that stage.
>
> I've messaged Brendan, and we're seeing if it'll all work out!
>
>
> Thank you again for all guidance so far!
>
> Alex Applegate
> Berkeley, CA
>
>
> On Tuesday, 2 February 2021 at 17:36:02 UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
>> Looks like it's actually closer to a 54cm by riv's chart.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 4:09:33 PM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 56cm Saluki that I might part with. Frameset or built.
>>>
>>> Brendan in SF
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 10:18:52 PM UTC-8 rcn...@hotmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 No difference that I can tell!

 Ryan

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 behalf of Robert Blunt 
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 28, 2021 2:29 PM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* Re: [RBW] WTB: Saluki, 54cm or thereabouts 
  
 I had a 55 or 57 bleriot about ten years ago, and very stupidly sold 
 it. It was the best bike I have ever owned. Do the couplers affect ride 
 quality? Just curious. 
 Best,
 Robert Blunt
 Pennington, NJ

 On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 4:23 PM Ryan Nute  wrote:

 The Bleriot is mine if anyone's interested.  I go back and forth about 
 keeping it.  Plus, I just got another Clem (thanks to Matthew's lead!). 

 Ryan

 On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 4:23:35 AM UTC-8 Robert Blunt wrote:

 I tried with the saluki in Smithfield. He/she is also selling a Heron 
 and seems only interested in selling both bikes for 4,000 dollars or you 
 have to show up in person with cash in hand. Seller suggested I take a 
 road trip! Might I suggest the Protovelo Bleriot with S couplers for 
 sale 
 in Seattle? It has the same dimensions I believe as the Saluki in Smith 
 field and doesn't seem to require coordinating a space shuttle launch to 
 buy. I bought the 54 sam for sale yesterday. Good luck. 
 Best,
 Robert Blunt
 Pennington, NJ

 On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 12:21 AM Applegate  
 wrote:

 Hello Bunchpeople, 

 I'm here on a mission to help a friend find a 54cm Saluki—her dream 
 bike. I will state up front that I do recognize:

- we're in search of bit of a rare bird
- the AHH took over for the Saluki
- one Robert Blunt, of Pennington, NJ seems to be in the final 
stage of obtaining the only presently known Saluki listing (in the 54 
 spec, 
no less)

 Nonetheless, I thought this group would be the best hope for tracking 
 down a solution. In the even that an appropriately sized Homer could take 
 its place, what do we think would be the likelihood of and the process for 
 acquiring Saluki decals and headbadge?

 Thank you in advance!
 Alex Applegate
 Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Dynamo light

[Roberta]

Found it. The rear light is B Line Small Plus. 

Roberta

On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 11:45:49 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

>
> I do.  A B IQ-SX and a rear light which I’ll have to find. I’ll send PM. 
> Roberta
> On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-5 jayay...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Purchased my first wheelset with a dynamo hub and looking for a light to 
>> complete my set up.  Open to anything anyone is trying to part with, with a 
>> preference toward b/schmidt.  Not sure if anyone has anything laying 
>> around but figured I'd put it out there in the ethos.  Thanks in advance!
>>
>> James
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Dynamo light

[Roberta]

I do.  A B IQ-SX and a rear light which I’ll have to find. I’ll send PM. 
Roberta
On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-5 jayay...@gmail.com wrote:

> Purchased my first wheelset with a dynamo hub and looking for a light to 
> complete my set up.  Open to anything anyone is trying to part with, with a 
> preference toward b/schmidt.  Not sure if anyone has anything laying 
> around but figured I'd put it out there in the ethos.  Thanks in advance!
>
> James
>

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[RBW] FS: Wheelset, marathon supreme tires, sugino triple crankset

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Wheelset: 700 silver cr-18 rims, shimano hubs, 36 spokes, 8-10 speed --- 
$95/set
Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires 700 x 50 --- $80/pair
Sugino triple crankset, brand new in box --- $125

Jeff
Mobile, Alabama

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[RBW] Re: The joy of winter riding, and how do you keep your toes warm?

[Marc Irwin]

Commuting in Michigan I have learned to use Grabber Toe warmers.  I place 
them on top of my wool socks on the top of my feet under my Chrome boots.  
They last for hours, so, after a shorter ride, place them in a zip lock 
bag, squeeze the air out and seal them up.  They will still be working the 
next couple of times you need them.  I stay comfy at temps below 0.

Marc

On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 1:27:09 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Inspired by the wonderful cold weather rides and pics recently (and 
> others, too, on Instagram), I decided I should not stop riding just because 
> the temperature is below 60*.  Yes, you read that right.  Pre-Riv, when 
> the weather got below 60*, I’d stop riding because it was “too cold.”
>
> Well, I’ve learned a lot here in the last 3 ½ years.  Last year, I rode 
> when it was in the 40’s.  Yesterday and today, I was out in 32* and 27* 
> temperatures, respectively, and it was glorious!  I finally learned how 
> to dress properly for cold weather riding.  There were less crowds on the 
> trail and I was more comfortable than when it’s in the 90’s.
>
> I highly recommend it!
> Also, how do you keep your toes warm?  It was the only cold part of my 
> body.  I was wearing leather sneakers and cotton socks (only because I 
> couldn't find my wool ones).  Winter temps usually don't often go below 30*.
>
> Roberta
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Play & Slipping with Silver Bar End Shifters

[Den John]

Thanks everyone. I'm in Europe so those Simplex Retrofriction come up every
so often on places other than ebay. I'll have a look out for them.

Cheers,
Johnny

On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 04:13, Graham Spencer  wrote:

> I had the same issue with mine a decade ago. Never cared for them. My
> solution was a used set of simplex retro friction from eBay. They bolt
> right on to the pods you have and happily shift my 9spd system smooth as
> butter with no slipping, no need for repeat tightening in 10 years. All
> with no clicks.
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[RBW] Re: about the IRD Alpina-d front derailer,,,

[ascpgh]

Assumptions based on bar type sure are foggy. Drop bars can be mounted on 
almost anything and not limiting of shifters, thumbs have been mounted up 
on the flats and Genevalle puts them on brake levers. 

I suspect IRD's differentiation is about bottom bracket width and "drop 
bar" being equated to 68mm "road" BB standard. Some road FDs just don't 
have the outward throw to go to the big ring and the extra 5 mm that 73mm 
BBs require. It's an odd thing for a maker/marketer of them to be discrete 
about, or not know outright when you ask them to differentiate.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 11:23:06 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I did some searching on this and what I see is IRD says it's optimized for 
> Shimano STI road shifters and can work with Campy Ergo, too. The "dropbar" 
> nomenclature is a bit deceiving, it's the shifters most folks use on drops 
> they're concerned with because the derailleur has to work with front 
> indexing. Assuming that fd works with the chainring sizes you're using, 
> it'll be fine with any friction shifter. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 7:12:00 PM UTC-8 samcr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I recently purchased Riv's Silver triple crankset and I look forward to 
>> getting it spinning soon. I'm looking to buy a front derailer, and I 
>> reached out to Riv for recommendations. One of them was the IRD Alpina, 
>> which I'm sure some (or many) of you ride with. 
>> Here's the thing - when I look at the IRD "Alpina-d" online, I've read 
>> that it's "only compatible with drop bars." I reached out to IRD, they say 
>> this is so. (To be fair, I didn't think to ask the "why".) I've seen the 
>> "Alpina-f" is for flat bars, but no one has them in stock any more, and the 
>> IRD website only lists one version of the derailer (pictured as the 
>> "Alpina-d".
>>
>> What I'm riding - flat/semi-swept back bars (and perhaps even more swept 
>> back bars some day), with the triple crank and thumb shifters in friction 
>> mode, and a bottom pull set-up on my frame. Will this IRD Alpina-d front 
>> derailer work with my set up? Any experience and wisdom is much 
>> appreciated. Thanks much! 
>>
>> -Sosa
>>
>

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