[RBW] Re: ISO 700c wheels for my Clem H

[Zac Terrones]

had you seen these? been eyeing them for a couple days...

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bop/d/oakland-shimano-sun-rims-speed-wheelset/7271645526.html
On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:

> I'm putting together a modest Clem build for errands and doggie 
> transport.  Strange how few good options I'm finding FS here in the Bay 
> Area right now. Anyone in possession of an extra set of 700c 100/135 rim 
> brake wheels that they want to part with??
>
> Cheers,
> Brendan in SF
>

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[RBW] Re: WTN: 46cm Nitto Noodle

[Kieran J]

Still lookin'. Thx!

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 7:20:21 AM UTC-8 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:

> WTN: Want To Noodle!
>
> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 10:34:00 PM UTC-6 Kieran J wrote:
>
>> As the title suggests. If you have a spare set, LMK.
>> I'm in Victoria, BC.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Kieran
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Build Ideas for New Sam H

[Jason Fuller]

Agree on the Tektro 720's - that's what I ran on my Hillborne for the 
longest time and they are great value. Good power, nice looks - my only 
complaint was their spring adjustment side to side is a bit limited, but 
that's not really a big deal.  

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Re: [RBW] FS MUSA Hunqapillar complete 58cm

[Joe Bernard]

The second number is what Roadeo frames go for now (same builder). His 
price is in the first post. 


On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 7:38:45 PM UTC-8 maxcr wrote:

> Hi Alex, I think there might be a typo on one of your posts since I see 
> two different numbers. 
> What's the actual asking price?
>
> Max
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 7:22:23 PM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
> Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
>> For the right price I could prob fit her in the box, John 😊

>>>

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Re: [RBW] FS MUSA Hunqapillar complete 58cm

[maxcr]

Hi Alex, I think there might be a typo on one of your posts since I see two 
different numbers. 
What's the actual asking price?

Max

On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 7:22:23 PM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:

> For the right price I could prob fit her in the box, John 😊
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Hub Area Rack back in stock.

[David B]

Just a heads up for those waiting for a Nitto Hub Area rack. Rivendell has 
them back in stock as of this afternoon. I've been waiting on one for a 
long while - kind of assumed they wouldn't bring them back, but they did - 
and I have one ordered.
David

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[RBW] ISO 700c wheels for my Clem H

[Brendan Willard in SF]

I'm putting together a modest Clem build for errands and doggie transport.  
Strange how few good options I'm finding FS here in the Bay Area right now. 
Anyone in possession of an extra set of 700c 100/135 rim brake wheels that 
they want to part with??

Cheers,
Brendan in SF

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[RBW] Re: Build Ideas for New Sam H

[velomann]

I went with the Paul Motolites and they are fantastic. But as you said, not 
cheap. If I was shopping for cantilever brakes I'd look at the Tektro CR 
720s. I set some up on an older Trek MTB last year and was very pleased 
with performance, aesthetics, and ease of set-up. Plus they are pretty 
inexpensive.

Mike M

On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 1:30:39 PM UTC-8 ericyue...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> What brakes have folks gone with on their Sams?  This will be the first 
> time I've built up a bike to spec, so it's new for me to have a choice.   I 
> prefer cantis aesthetically, but probably can't afford Pauls so was looking 
> at the Dia Comps.
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 2:25:25 PM UTC-8 Erik wrote:
>
>> These all look so good!  I think I'm starting to visualize the build.  
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: My Rambouillet Build

[Jay LePree]

Thanks very much for the information.  I started researching painters in my 
area, and was surprised to find how many autobody shops will paint bicycles 
on the side.  

Best to you,

Jay LePree
Demarest, NJ

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 7:23:17 PM UTC-5 Fullylugged wrote:

> Jay:  I had mine painted in Pelham AL by Nathan Barnes (
> https://www.instagram.com/nate_barnes81/).  He paints cars and 
> motorcycles during the week, bicycles (and sometimes plane parts) on the 
> weekend.  I think he does great work and he is very reasonable in cost. I 
> have a PDF of the decals and had them made by a decal shop in MS. It was 
> pretty reasonable and there are two clear coats over them on my bike. My 
> color is actually a past Ford Mustang color called Autumn Gold. I didn't 
> like it on the cars but I think it's very nice on the bicycle. The cream is 
> standard RBW same as came on the bike. Msg me if you want more info on 
> decals.  I've helped someone else here on the list as well, but am getting 
> old and forgetful so I couldn't say who. 
>
> the Old Slow Guy
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:17:23 AM UTC-6 Jay LePree wrote:
>
>> Ben:  That is beautiful.  I have one of the last orange white 54 cm that 
>> we sold.  (I purchased it in 2003).  I have been looking for a painter.  
>> Where did you have your bike painted?  How did you get the new decals?
>>
>> Jay
>> Demarest, NJ
>>
>> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:31:58 PM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Fellow RBW Owners,
>>>
>>> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now 
>>> that it is actually taking form.
>>>
>>> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built 
>>> up four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly 
>>> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 
>>> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. 
>>> Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after 
>>> that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 
>>> months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly 
>>> collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a 
>>> bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. 
>>> During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually 
>>> coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet.
>>>
>>> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a 
>>> bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the 
>>> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was 
>>> included with a Tange headset.
>>>
>>> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new 
>>> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these 
>>> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or 
>>> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to 
>>> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and 
>>> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is 
>>> my first time executing it.
>>>
>>> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT 
>>> friction shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The 
>>> Duopar was originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in 
>>> 1981. These 40 year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed 
>>> freewheel, but through the magic of friction shifting and a little 
>>> finessing, seem to work just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing 
>>> about the Duopar is it was one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to 
>>> handle up to a 36t cog and 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that 
>>> these RD’s are slightly controversial in terms of either loving or hating 
>>> them (lots is said about their maintenance issues), but part of this was 
>>> trying to find out for myself. As I am just starting to learn about these 
>>> derailleurs, it’d be nice to hear from others about their experience!
>>>
>>> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in 
>>> and shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and 
>>> paired with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished 
>>> mounting a pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and 
>>> got strung together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are 
>>> mounted on the Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the 
>>> only brand new part on this build besides the Velo Orange seatpost (I did 
>>> have a vintage seatpost I had been planning on using, but the mounting 
>>> plates have a lot of corrosion that is preventing them from providing a 
>>> tight hold). With brakes on and functional, I was able to take it out and 
>>> test the shifting in real conditions. And I have to say

[RBW] Re: FS: 80mm Velo Orange Quill Stem w/ Removable Faceplate

[David Person]

Sold!

On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 2:53:27 PM UTC-8 masmojo wrote:

> PM sent
>
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 5:28:59 PM UTC-6 David Person wrote:
>
>> Fits 1" threaded steerer.  31.8mm handlebar clamp.  80mm extension.  
>> 225mm quill (same length as Nitto Tallux).  Almost like new.  I inserted it 
>> in the steerer of my Hillborne to just beyond the min insertion line and 
>> tightened the quill bolt, so there are two very slight lines visible on the 
>> quill just above the min insertion line.
>> Includes the VO cloth bag.
>>
>> $55.00 shipped (CONUS)
>> [image: IMG_2574.JPG]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Build Ideas for New Sam H

[Zac Terrones]

Thanks Paul!

got it here but it looks like they're sold out at the moment 
https://danglesupply.com/collections/accessories/products/spike-patch


On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 4:11:53 PM UTC-8 Paul Richardson wrote:

> zac--
> where did you get that spike patch?!  p.s. nice bike!
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 4:30:39 PM UTC-5 ericyue...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> What brakes have folks gone with on their Sams?  This will be the first 
>> time I've built up a bike to spec, so it's new for me to have a choice.   I 
>> prefer cantis aesthetically, but probably can't afford Pauls so was looking 
>> at the Dia Comps.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 2:25:25 PM UTC-8 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> These all look so good!  I think I'm starting to visualize the build.  
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] FS MUSA Hunqapillar complete 58cm

[Alex Wirth]

>
> For the right price I could prob fit her in the box, John 😊
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Build Ideas for New Sam H

[Paul Richardson]

zac--
where did you get that spike patch?!  p.s. nice bike!

paul
takoma park, md.

On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 4:30:39 PM UTC-5 ericyue...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> What brakes have folks gone with on their Sams?  This will be the first 
> time I've built up a bike to spec, so it's new for me to have a choice.   I 
> prefer cantis aesthetically, but probably can't afford Pauls so was looking 
> at the Dia Comps.
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 2:25:25 PM UTC-8 Erik wrote:
>
>> These all look so good!  I think I'm starting to visualize the build.  
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bizarre Winter Weather

[Paul Richardson]

nice sentiment george.  sure hope folks are okay.
good thing rivs are built for anything, even weather they've perhaps never 
encountered in a 'normal' texas winter.
here's hoping paul in dallas comes at us with a snowy ride report!

paul
takoma park, md.

On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:35:10 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> It's been a tough Winter in many parts of the country this year, but my 
> sentiments are for the Texans in particular.  I know there are several from 
> that state who post here regularly and I am sorry that you all are having 
> to undergo such extreme temperatures.  Those of us in the Midwest are used 
> to it and our infrastructure is more or less prepared for it, but I realize 
> that yours is not and it's unfortunate that this Polar Vortex is dipping so 
> far South this year.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS MUSA Hunqapillar complete 58cm

[John Rinker]

That's a super beautiful bike, Alex. Does it come with the cat?

Best of luck with the sale and the existential crisis that follows.

Cheers.

On Friday, February 19, 2021 at 5:24:15 AM UTC+9 Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:

> Thanks Max!
>
> I know, it's a bit wild that I posted it for sale.  We're moving so I've 
> been going through an existential crisis on materialism.  This is quite the 
> experiment on how I feel before, during and (potentially) after the sale.  
> It's been an interesting ride in my head these past 24hrs   ;-)
>
> I do agree it's not a small amount of money.  Considering the build, I 
> think it's a generous price aimed at a special group of people. I'm equally 
> surprised it's still for sale.
>
> (especially since Hunqs are currently unobtainium at Riv and they're 
> pricing for a Waterford-built Rodeo *frame* is $2,800 )
>
> Best,
>
> Alex
>
>
>

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[RBW] Bizarre Winter Weather

[George Schick]

It's been a tough Winter in many parts of the country this year, but my 
sentiments are for the Texans in particular.  I know there are several from 
that state who post here regularly and I am sorry that you all are having 
to undergo such extreme temperatures.  Those of us in the Midwest are used 
to it and our infrastructure is more or less prepared for it, but I realize 
that yours is not and it's unfortunate that this Polar Vortex is dipping so 
far South this year.

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[RBW] Re: Custom Details

[aeroperf]

Collin--
VERY cool!

On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 5:14:16 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> I hammered in some nickels in the place of the plastic dust cover on some 
> MKS pedals for my now fiance's bike.
> [image: IMG_20200411_154351.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Build Ideas for New Sam H

[ericyue...@gmail.com]

What brakes have folks gone with on their Sams?  This will be the first 
time I've built up a bike to spec, so it's new for me to have a choice.   I 
prefer cantis aesthetically, but probably can't afford Pauls so was looking 
at the Dia Comps.

On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 2:25:25 PM UTC-8 Erik wrote:

> These all look so good!  I think I'm starting to visualize the build.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Custom Details

[Joe Bernard]

The spoke holder is sweet!



On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 11:48:35 AM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:

> Probably not what you had in mind, but only one person has ever noticed 
> the spoke holder and spare spokes on my touring bike.
>
> I’ve only needed it once, but was glad it was there when I broke a spoke 
> in the middle of nowhere on a tour.
> What are the odds?  63 years of bike riding, one broken spoke, and I had a 
> spare.  And had even remembered to bring the correct spoke wrench.
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 2:39:45 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> My detail is from the painter of my custom, Joe Bell. He put red in the 
>> cutouts inside the fork crown, a spot no one notices with the wheel in 
>> there. I didn't even notice it when I first built it up! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 10:04:22 AM UTC-8 Matthew Williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At hot-rod and custom motorcycle shows, I love the subtle personal 
>>> touches and "easter eggs" people create and add to their rides. For 
>>> example, vintage British motorcycles have a gold "Made In England," decal 
>>> on the frame--and one custom British bike I saw had the gold decal in the 
>>> same spot, but its owner had created a "Made by Hand," decal in the same 
>>> script.
>>>
>>> I was inspired by Mark's monkey 
>>> ,
>>>  
>>> Jeffrey's hand-painted lettering 
>>> ,
>>>  
>>> and Leah's matching pedals, spokes, valves, and stem 
>>> .
>>>  
>>> I thought we could share the custom details of our rides--subtle touches 
>>> only the owner and bike aficionados might notice.
>>>
>>> What's a detail you've added to your bike? Has anyone noticed? Does your 
>>> bike have a scuff that reminds you of a good ride? Does one of your grips 
>>> have a spot where your thumb tends to rest? Did you add a pinstripe, a 
>>> sticker, or a custom-fabbed bracket? Post photos of your finishing touches 
>>> and share a story about your favorite subtle detail or beausage.
>>>
>>> Here's mine: I got these handmade valve caps to match my headlight and 
>>> taillight.
>>>
>>> [image: valvecap.jpg][image: light_rear.jpg]
>>>
>>> I got my wife a set of valve caps for her bike, too.
>>>
>>> [image: hellokitty.jpg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FS MUSA Hunqapillar complete 58cm

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Thanks Max!

I know, it's a bit wild that I posted it for sale.  We're moving so I've 
been going through an existential crisis on materialism.  This is quite the 
experiment on how I feel before, during and (potentially) after the sale.  
It's been an interesting ride in my head these past 24hrs   ;-)

I do agree it's not a small amount of money.  Considering the build, I 
think it's a generous price aimed at a special group of people. I'm equally 
surprised it's still for sale.

(especially since Hunqs are currently unobtainium at Riv and they're 
pricing for a Waterford-built Rodeo *frame* is $2,800 )

Best,

Alex


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Re: [RBW] FS MUSA Hunqapillar complete 58cm

[maxcr]

Alex, what a beautiful bike and build! Definitely iconic

I have an older 58 Hunq that I love and hope I never have to sell. With my 
downsizing dreams, I constantly debate about going down to one or two 
bikes. I've also considered the overlap with the Atlantis and whether I 
should let one of the two go, but if that were to happen, the Hunq 
certainly would stay.

I'm surprised it's still up for sale, I know it's a lot of $$ but totally 
worth it in my opinion.

Good luck with the sale... someone will get an awesome bike if they pull 
the trigger on this.

Cheers.
Max

On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:25:09 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:

> A note on the drivetrainchain is not registering at .75 wear on a Park 
>>> Tool chain ware indicator and is original to this drivetrain. (KMC chain)
>>>
>>
> All of the parts were added/built onto the bike at the same time and were 
> bought new.   Tires have lots of life left.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Tim Baldwin]

Patrick, I've ridden both. The Jones and MAP bar sweeps are pretty similar 
but the Jones needs a shorter stem. I went to the Jones for more width. I 
will say the MAP is a better looking bar and I know you don't want to spoil 
your beautiful Monocog with an ugly handlebar.

On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 11:50:43 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Tim; I considered the Jones bar but decided I'd like to try the 
> MAP or similar bar first.
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 9:14 AM Tim Baldwin  wrote:
>
>> Patrick, I have a 660mm Jones bar I'd be willing to sell. Since you're 
>> putting on a single speed, there's plenty of room to trim down to taste. I 
>> never held the front taped area much but that's because I put it on a bike 
>> with too much reach. Otherwise they were pretty solid for commuting, dirt 
>> roads, and some mellow singletrack. Not sue I would sell for any less than 
>> you would pay for ordering new Ahearne Map bars though.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 9:53:41 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. I've been eyeing the Daija Far bar, only 44 cm at the hoods, but 
>>> I think I'll try the MAP or a similar bar first.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 9:42 PM Philip Williamson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Black 31.8 flared drops in either 52 or 58 at the ends. Hoods are much 
 narrower. I like the 58. I got a 52 at a great price from Analog, and 
 Candace said “you probably won’t like it if you’re over 5’2”. She was 
 right, at least with the Ritchey Force stem on the RoadLite. I swapped for 
 a 58 and put moustache bars on the Frances.


 https://www.bike-components.de/en/NITTO/RM-3-SSB-31-8-Handlebars-p73417/#product-image-14

 https://analogcycles.com/product/nitto-super-flare-heat-treated-dirt-drops/
 These used to be easier to find, and the silver 25.4 ones were harder 
 to find. Times change.

 Philip
 Santa Rosa, CA


 On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:58:29 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> My Monocog (so much prettier than Leah's Platypus) is surprisingly 
> comfortable with the stock (at least, that's what I got with the bike as 
> second owner) mtb bar after I cut fully 8" off of it, but the shortening 
> also cut off the ends that curved backward, and now there is only a 
> minimal 
> rearward angle; I'd like more. Also, I'd like more positions, both a sit 
> up 
> and beg type position and a lower and narrower hard-surface cruising 
> position in addition to the sit-up-and-beg.
>
> I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm 
> instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog 
> has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no 
> rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, 
> I'd 
> have to change the levers.
>
> 1. Jones bar or flared drop or something else? I don't want a bar with 
> huge rearward sweep and, in fact, if I were to buy the Jones bar I looked 
> at, I'd amputate all but fistfulls from each end.
>
> 2. If drop, which one? I'd like a flared drop for dirt and brush 
> control, but with slightly narrower hoods that are comfortable when 
> cruising on flat, hard ground, not hugely wide (of the 6 or 8 flared 
> drops 
> I tried over the years, from the original WTBs to the an On One bar of 
> some 
> sort that was far too wide, a 44 cm Salsa Bell Lap was the best, but that 
> was 10 years ago or more. I'd set this up higher and closer so that the 
> hooks are comfortable on (flat) singletrack, but the hoods comfortable 
> for 
> cruising with elbows bent, and the flats for situpandbeg.
>
> 3. Brake lever question: One advantage of the Jones is that I could 
> use the existing levers. But for a drop bar, another question: Has anyone 
> experience using cable *MOUNTAIN BIKE *discs with *NON-AERO ROAD* levers? 
> Those in question are an old pair of mid-level Campy *non aero*
>  levers.
>
> 4. On One Mary? I find the present too-straight cut down mtb bar more 
> comfortable than the apparently similar Suly Open bar, though.
>
> Ta!
>
> Patrick
>
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Re: [RBW] Custom Details

[Patrick Moore]

118 mm rear dropout OL spacing, to accommodate a 114 mm SA AM hub as well
as a Surly 120 mm hub, but I wish I'd had it spaced at 114 mm because I
just got a NOS *(NOS!!)* SA TF hub dated 1937 *(NOS!!)* from Hilary Stone
that I mean to have built into the default wheel for the new Matthews 26"
wheel road bike (the clone and improvement on the 2003 Curt Goodrich Riv
Road custom). The TF 2-speed fixed hub is the simplest of SA's hubs, with a
direct and 25% underdrive, and, so reports go, very little lash. The AM,
again, has direct, 11.15% overdrive and 86.54% underdrive: 72/65/56 gear
inches.

The frame is built with standard gauge .8/.5/.8 wall 531.

The Matthews frame has dynamo wiring inside the right fork leg running to
crown, thence under fender to arch holding Edeluxe, with tail light wire
running from Edeluxe back under fender to crown, where it pops out to run
to an internal tube in the top tube back to just under the seat cluster,
and pop out again to enter the left seatstay for a bit, and exit just above
the custom rack where it enters the central rack strut to run back to the
tail light. As an additional custom touch I have spliced the tail light
wire to power a Secula lamp clamped on the seatstay just above the wire
exit, so that the SON powers 2 taillights and the headlight.

The chainstays were measured to put the axle at the center of the custom
cut, very long, plate (= thin, to accommodate the short SA axles) dropouts
so that, with 17 t fixed cog or 19 t AM cog the wheel with Naches Pass 42
mm tires is pretty much centered under the VO hammered 50 mm fenders.

Must take a new photo 

When I as 16 or so, as my second custom build, I tore apart and fully
rebuilt an ancient Varsity: took it completely apart, stripped frame, spray
painted (Flit gun, oil-based gloss enamel) black, and hand pinstriped it,
adding a hand-made headbadge cut, bent, drilled, and engraved, made from
one of my mother's brass coasters. Dog (very doggy) Latin, *Secundum
Ventus.* Replaced Alvit drivetrain with 16 and 18 cogs on AW hub and Cyclo
Benelux rd with 39 or 40 t inner ring. Whitewall tires, aluminum fenders.
They heavy 1/8" chain hit the stay over bumps, so I cut a guard from a tin
can, and bolted it silver inside outward to the stay. A rather nice looking
bike.


On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 11:04 AM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:  What's a detail you've added
to your bike? Has anyone noticed? Does your bike have a scuff that reminds
you of a good ride? Does one of your grips have a spot where your thumb
tends to rest? Did you add a pinstripe, a sticker, or a custom-fabbed
bracket? Post photos of your finishing touches and share a story about your
favorite subtle detail or beausage.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Tim; I considered the Jones bar but decided I'd like to try the MAP
or similar bar first.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 9:14 AM Tim Baldwin  wrote:

> Patrick, I have a 660mm Jones bar I'd be willing to sell. Since you're
> putting on a single speed, there's plenty of room to trim down to taste. I
> never held the front taped area much but that's because I put it on a bike
> with too much reach. Otherwise they were pretty solid for commuting, dirt
> roads, and some mellow singletrack. Not sue I would sell for any less than
> you would pay for ordering new Ahearne Map bars though.
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021 at 9:53:41 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I've been eyeing the Daija Far bar, only 44 cm at the hoods, but
>> I think I'll try the MAP or a similar bar first.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 9:42 PM Philip Williamson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Black 31.8 flared drops in either 52 or 58 at the ends. Hoods are much
>>> narrower. I like the 58. I got a 52 at a great price from Analog, and
>>> Candace said “you probably won’t like it if you’re over 5’2”. She was
>>> right, at least with the Ritchey Force stem on the RoadLite. I swapped for
>>> a 58 and put moustache bars on the Frances.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.bike-components.de/en/NITTO/RM-3-SSB-31-8-Handlebars-p73417/#product-image-14
>>>
>>> https://analogcycles.com/product/nitto-super-flare-heat-treated-dirt-drops/
>>> These used to be easier to find, and the silver 25.4 ones were harder to
>>> find. Times change.
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:58:29 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 My Monocog (so much prettier than Leah's Platypus) is surprisingly
 comfortable with the stock (at least, that's what I got with the bike as
 second owner) mtb bar after I cut fully 8" off of it, but the shortening
 also cut off the ends that curved backward, and now there is only a minimal
 rearward angle; I'd like more. Also, I'd like more positions, both a sit up
 and beg type position and a lower and narrower hard-surface cruising
 position in addition to the sit-up-and-beg.

 I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm
 instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog
 has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no
 rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, I'd
 have to change the levers.

 1. Jones bar or flared drop or something else? I don't want a bar with
 huge rearward sweep and, in fact, if I were to buy the Jones bar I looked
 at, I'd amputate all but fistfulls from each end.

 2. If drop, which one? I'd like a flared drop for dirt and brush
 control, but with slightly narrower hoods that are comfortable when
 cruising on flat, hard ground, not hugely wide (of the 6 or 8 flared drops
 I tried over the years, from the original WTBs to the an On One bar of some
 sort that was far too wide, a 44 cm Salsa Bell Lap was the best, but that
 was 10 years ago or more. I'd set this up higher and closer so that the
 hooks are comfortable on (flat) singletrack, but the hoods comfortable for
 cruising with elbows bent, and the flats for situpandbeg.

 3. Brake lever question: One advantage of the Jones is that I could use
 the existing levers. But for a drop bar, another question: Has anyone
 experience using cable *MOUNTAIN BIKE *discs with *NON-AERO ROAD* levers?
 Those in question are an old pair of mid-level Campy *non aero* levers.

 4. On One Mary? I find the present too-straight cut down mtb bar more
 comfortable than the apparently similar Suly Open bar, though.

 Ta!

 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: How to Video for First Time Cloth Bar wrappers

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Nice video! Thanks!

On Tuesday, February 16, 2021 at 10:16:54 AM UTC-8 James / Analog Cycles 
wrote:

> We put together a cloth bar wrapping primer for first timers.  It's a bit 
> different than the Riv method, and involves Fizik Gel.  I'd say it's 
> easier, but more involved, than most methods, just cause we use glue.  New 
> to the shop gal Tikko put the vid together, Candice does the wrapping.  
>
>
> https://youtu.be/vFwLiWboeBk
>
> -James / Analog Cycles
>
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[RBW] Re: FS Carradice Super C panniers

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi Folks,

I apologize If I have inconvenience to anyone but I've decided to keep 
these panniers after read this review from 2013.

https://tomsbiketrip.com/carradice-super-c-rear-pannier-review/

Best Regards,

Hugh

On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 2:15:25 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Selling my lovingly used Carradice panniers. Pictures show their wear. 
> They have been on the galloping goose trail,  TCT (TRANSCANADA TRAIL) and 
> throughout central Oregon and various trip here in the land. Asking $100 
> incl shipping. Please DM me if your interested. As a bonus you get some 
> patches sewn on from my LBS Golden Saddle Cyclery. For some reason I'm 
> having a hard time posting pictures, I keep getting message too long. 
> Anyway, upon request pictures available.
>
>
>
> Hugh
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. I've been eyeing the Daija Far bar, only 44 cm at the hoods, but I
think I'll try the MAP or a similar bar first.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 9:42 PM Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Black 31.8 flared drops in either 52 or 58 at the ends. Hoods are much
> narrower. I like the 58. I got a 52 at a great price from Analog, and
> Candace said “you probably won’t like it if you’re over 5’2”. She was
> right, at least with the Ritchey Force stem on the RoadLite. I swapped for
> a 58 and put moustache bars on the Frances.
>
>
> https://www.bike-components.de/en/NITTO/RM-3-SSB-31-8-Handlebars-p73417/#product-image-14
> https://analogcycles.com/product/nitto-super-flare-heat-treated-dirt-drops/
> These used to be easier to find, and the silver 25.4 ones were harder to
> find. Times change.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:58:29 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> My Monocog (so much prettier than Leah's Platypus) is surprisingly
>> comfortable with the stock (at least, that's what I got with the bike as
>> second owner) mtb bar after I cut fully 8" off of it, but the shortening
>> also cut off the ends that curved backward, and now there is only a minimal
>> rearward angle; I'd like more. Also, I'd like more positions, both a sit up
>> and beg type position and a lower and narrower hard-surface cruising
>> position in addition to the sit-up-and-beg.
>>
>> I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm
>> instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog
>> has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no
>> rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, I'd
>> have to change the levers.
>>
>> 1. Jones bar or flared drop or something else? I don't want a bar with
>> huge rearward sweep and, in fact, if I were to buy the Jones bar I looked
>> at, I'd amputate all but fistfulls from each end.
>>
>> 2. If drop, which one? I'd like a flared drop for dirt and brush control,
>> but with slightly narrower hoods that are comfortable when cruising on
>> flat, hard ground, not hugely wide (of the 6 or 8 flared drops I tried over
>> the years, from the original WTBs to the an On One bar of some sort that
>> was far too wide, a 44 cm Salsa Bell Lap was the best, but that was 10
>> years ago or more. I'd set this up higher and closer so that the hooks are
>> comfortable on (flat) singletrack, but the hoods comfortable for cruising
>> with elbows bent, and the flats for situpandbeg.
>>
>> 3. Brake lever question: One advantage of the Jones is that I could use
>> the existing levers. But for a drop bar, another question: Has anyone
>> experience using cable *MOUNTAIN BIKE *discs with *NON-AERO ROAD* levers?
>> Those in question are an old pair of mid-level Campy *non aero* levers.
>>
>> 4. On One Mary? I find the present too-straight cut down mtb bar more
>> comfortable than the apparently similar Suly Open bar, though.
>>
>> Ta!
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> --
>>
>> ---
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Stuff! For cyclists! For... you?

[Philip Barrett]

Go ahead & sell me the light mount please. Paypal I presume? Email address 
is one I use here.

Thanks,

On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 10:17:07 PM UTC-6 Nathan F wrote:

> Dos Eno and GRX crankset are spoken for. Everything else still up for 
> grabs!
> On Tuesday, 16 February 2021 at 11:00:48 UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:
>
>> Hey Nathan. Shot you a PM about a couple of items :)
>>
>> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 4:09:59 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, as I’m stuck indoors due to snow and ice here in PDX (don’t 
>>> worry, I did get out for a ride) I’ve decided to get rid of a few things 
>>> that I have laying around. Some Riv-ish, some not as much. Please shoot me 
>>> a message if you’re interested in anything. Prices include shipping, I 
>>> accept Paypal and cash via carrier pigeon. 
>>>
>>>- White Industries 16T Freewheel. OK condition, some installation 
>>>scars but not too much wear on the teeth. $50. 
>>>- White Industries DOS ENO 17T/19T 2-speed Freewheel. OK condition, 
>>>just like the last. Installation marks but little wear on the teeth. 
>>> $65. 
>>>- White Industries MI5 Front Hub, polished silver 32H. Purchased 
>>>mid-2019, in good shape. Certainly less than 1000 miles on it. Selling 
>>>because I upgraded to a SON dynamo. Slight marks in the spoke holes from 
>>> a 
>>>wheel build, as you’d expect. $90. 
>>>- Shimano DH-3N72 32H Silver Dynamo Hub. Perhaps the standard dynamo 
>>>around these parts, this one is brand new in the Shimano box as I ended 
>>> up 
>>>with SON. $75. 
>>>- Paul Components Gino light mount in silver (not polished). Nice 
>>>little light mount, I’ve upgraded to a rack mounted dynamo set up and 
>>> thus 
>>>won’t be needing this guy any more. $20.  
>>>- Brooks B-17S “Ladies Standard” brown saddle. Basically new, no 
>>>wear on it at all. The intended rider didn’t want to deal with breaking 
>>> it 
>>>in (can’t blame her!). $90. 
>>>
>>>
>>> OK now here’s the more off-beat stuff:
>>>
>>>- Dura Ace FC-7710 Track crank, 170mm, in silver. This one’s a long 
>>>shot sale, but perhaps someone’s looking for a very nice crank. And I 
>>> mean 
>>>very, very nice--this thing's gorgeous. Brand new in box, never 
>>> installed. 
>>>$350. 
>>>- GRX Di2 1x rear derailleur. Brand new in box. $275.  
>>>- GRX RX810 40T 175mm Crankset. Brand new in box. $200.
>>>
>>> Always happy to answer any questions about anything above. 
>>>
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Bill Lindsay]

Philip,

On my upcoming dirt-drop build I already have a set of Woodchippers, but 
I'd consider using these Nitto guys instead.  I'll be running a Paul 
adapter for a SRAM trigger shifter.  The Woodchipper has a long 31.8 
section so there's plenty of room to clamp the Paul shifter perch along 
with other 31.8 stuff that I may include later.  Will this Nitto bulge give 
me similar real-estate?  It looks like it may taper down from 31.8 far 
sooner than the Woodchipper does.  

Do you have any other comments to talk me out of using the Woodchipper 
first?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 8:42:40 PM UTC-8 Philip Williamson wrote:

> Black 31.8 flared drops in either 52 or 58 at the ends. Hoods are much 
> narrower. I like the 58. I got a 52 at a great price from Analog, and 
> Candace said “you probably won’t like it if you’re over 5’2”. She was 
> right, at least with the Ritchey Force stem on the RoadLite. I swapped for 
> a 58 and put moustache bars on the Frances.
>
>
> https://www.bike-components.de/en/NITTO/RM-3-SSB-31-8-Handlebars-p73417/#product-image-14
> https://analogcycles.com/product/nitto-super-flare-heat-treated-dirt-drops/
> These used to be easier to find, and the silver 25.4 ones were harder to 
> find. Times change.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:58:29 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> My Monocog (so much prettier than Leah's Platypus) is surprisingly 
>> comfortable with the stock (at least, that's what I got with the bike as 
>> second owner) mtb bar after I cut fully 8" off of it, but the shortening 
>> also cut off the ends that curved backward, and now there is only a minimal 
>> rearward angle; I'd like more. Also, I'd like more positions, both a sit up 
>> and beg type position and a lower and narrower hard-surface cruising 
>> position in addition to the sit-up-and-beg.
>>
>> I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm 
>> instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog 
>> has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no 
>> rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, I'd 
>> have to change the levers.
>>
>> 1. Jones bar or flared drop or something else? I don't want a bar with 
>> huge rearward sweep and, in fact, if I were to buy the Jones bar I looked 
>> at, I'd amputate all but fistfulls from each end.
>>
>> 2. If drop, which one? I'd like a flared drop for dirt and brush control, 
>> but with slightly narrower hoods that are comfortable when cruising on 
>> flat, hard ground, not hugely wide (of the 6 or 8 flared drops I tried over 
>> the years, from the original WTBs to the an On One bar of some sort that 
>> was far too wide, a 44 cm Salsa Bell Lap was the best, but that was 10 
>> years ago or more. I'd set this up higher and closer so that the hooks are 
>> comfortable on (flat) singletrack, but the hoods comfortable for cruising 
>> with elbows bent, and the flats for situpandbeg.
>>
>> 3. Brake lever question: One advantage of the Jones is that I could use 
>> the existing levers. But for a drop bar, another question: Has anyone 
>> experience using cable *MOUNTAIN BIKE *discs with *NON-AERO ROAD* levers? 
>> Those in question are an old pair of mid-level Campy *non aero* levers.
>>
>> 4. On One Mary? I find the present too-straight cut down mtb bar more 
>> comfortable than the apparently similar Suly Open bar, though.
>>
>> Ta!
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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