[RBW] Re: New Bike day- Red Mixte but not a Raspberry Platypus.

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Linda,
Have a look at the Platypus video posted by BlueLug. The English closed 
captions are really bad but the two speakers discuss and show the bracing 
of the seat tube by the top tube and the twin, continuing lateral stays. It 
should contribute to that frame not feeling flexy with a load, but ... 
that's my speculation only!
Here's a link to that point (about 15 minutes in):
https://youtu.be/ga8o1WKWgXs?t=894
I, too, wish the 55cm Platypus was designed for 650b wheels!

David Lipsky

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 5:17:57 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:

> Does this bike feel flexy with a load in front and back, set fairly high 
> on your racks? I ask because I have a Velo Orange mixte, size 54, which has 
> a similar design and rack configuration. The flex bothers me. It's kind of 
> an unstable feeling side to side. It's also enough to make the rear brake 
> rub on a rough road. I'm looking for an alternative and the Platypus is too 
> long and big-tired for me. I like the fact that the Soma can run 650 b's.
> Linda
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:25 AM UTC-8 Tom Palmer wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> This is a cross post for IBob, with correction, now with Riv content.
>> I built this Soma Buena Vista up over the winter and finally rode it. 
>> Probably the best first ride on a new bike ever, maybe I am finally 
>> understanding how to fit my own bikes. undoubtedly, things will change, but 
>> its pretty close right now. The build is pretty Bobish- 650b with 38mm Pari 
>> motos (red Hetres on the way as change #1) Shimano Deore rear hub Shimano 
>> dyno front on velocity Dyad rims. Tektro r559 brakes that stop very well. 
>> Riv Nitto Choco norm bars on long generic stem. SKS longboard fenders at 
>> least for now. Front basket and rear rack for commuting if that is ever a 
>> thing in the future. Drivtrain is 10 speed microshift shifters and Shimano 
>> SLX deraillers. and  a vintage Shimano 600 crankset with Willow triplizer 
>> 46/30 chainrings. Rides great- tweaked the bars a few times after about 5 
>> miles into the ride. Hit  a couple steep hills and climbs well in the bends 
>> of the Chocos. The interweb info on this for tire fit is way conservative. 
>> I had 650bx48 Pari motos on at first and they fit fine, probably fenders 
>> too. The handling is typical high trail drop road bike even with the swept 
>> back bars. This is a little surprising. I was afraid it would be too light 
>> but the longer chainstays may play into it- 450mm. Geometry is pretty road 
>> bike too- 73 degree parallel with 45mm rake. This is the biggest frame they 
>> still make-58cm. They did have a 62 in the past. The color is tremendous- 
>> even better than anything on the web. Russo Red is what they call it and it 
>> really pops. Real paint, not powder coat.
>>
>> Doing a tour of lakes Huron, Superior, and Michigan in the fall, and this 
>> may be the ride.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ersed Shift Levers Install

[Joe Bernard]

No mods needed with these, you just lose the index option on the 
formerly-right-rear shifter that's now your left front. The nifty thing 
about this setup is the normally-left-front has a nice ratcheting action 
like Silvers, which is great for rear shifting. Don't forget to swap the 
brake levers, too, so the jutting-out part is still opposite of the 
shifters. 

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:53:38 PM UTC-8 christian poppell wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> I've got the Microshift 9speed thumb shifters on Albatross bars installed 
> the normal way (outside, top). I'm looking for info on setting them up on 
> the inside like this:
>  
> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2016/06/brifter-bliss-for-swept-back-handlebars.html
>  
> 
>
> Is it just a matter of moving the left to the right and vise versa? I 
> recall some modification needing to be done to the Sunrace shift body, is 
> it the same with the Microshift?
>
> These are the levers I've got: 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/microshift-thumb-shifters-9-speed-sl-t09
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Christian
> Berkeley, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Convert to Tubeless?

[Nick Payne]

I'd say so-called tubeless-compatible tyres aren't necessary unless you 
need to buy new tyres. For several years now I've been running Hutchinson 
Confrérie des 650B tyres tubeless on one bike (Velocity A23 rims) and Grand 
Bois Lierre tubeless on another (MCFK i25 hookless rims), and although 
neither model of tyre is rated as tubeless, I've had zero problems.

Nick

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[RBW] Riv-ersed Shift Levers Install

[christian poppell]

Hi Gang,

I've got the Microshift 9speed thumb shifters on Albatross bars installed 
the normal way (outside, top). I'm looking for info on setting them up on 
the inside like this:
 
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2016/06/brifter-bliss-for-swept-back-handlebars.html
 


Is it just a matter of moving the left to the right and vise versa? I 
recall some modification needing to be done to the Sunrace shift body, is 
it the same with the Microshift?

These are the levers I've got: 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/microshift-thumb-shifters-9-speed-sl-t09

Thanks in advance!
Christian
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Convert to Tubeless?

[Victor Hanson]

A couple of quid pro quos’ - from experience:

1)  do not convert a tire - purchase tubeless ready or ust tires

2) fit the tire to the rim and inflate (best with a compressor. ) The tire
will only hold air a couple of hrs but more importantly now you check the
fit

3). More tape is not good - once around and overlap 75-90mm

That’s about it  Keep in mind even the best mechanics get the goo all over
the place from time to time.

Vtw

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 20:47 Philip Barrett 
wrote:

> Okey dokey folks - I'm thinking I'd like to convert my Clem Smith (650b)
> to tubeless. Reason being that my neighborhood and favorite route to the
> trails is pretty much old school industrial and I'm constantly fighting
> punctures from debris. Since the Alex rims look to support a tubeless set
> up it seems like I'll need the following;
>
>- tubeless compatible tires
>- rim tape (Gorilla)
>- tubeless valve stems
>- tire sealant
>
> I have done the same conversion on a dirt motorcycle so familiar with the
> concept and install procedures but...
>
> What am I missing? Any caveats? Am I mad to attempt this? Plus any other
> advice would be most welcome.
>
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Re: [RBW] Convert to Tubeless?

[rltilley]

That should be all you need. I have read accounts of Gorilla tape absorbing 
sealant and losing its adhesive properties so I never tried it. I just set up 
some fat bike tires with Muc-Off tubeless tape but haven’t converted to 
tubeless yet. I’m letting tubes seat the tape to the rim currently. 

You may need a valve core wrench if you add sealant through the valve. A 
sealant syringe also helps with that.

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

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> On Mar 4, 2021, at 8:47 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
> Okey dokey folks - I'm thinking I'd like to convert my Clem Smith (650b) to 
> tubeless. Reason being that my neighborhood and favorite route to the trails 
> is pretty much old school industrial and I'm constantly fighting punctures 
> from debris. Since the Alex rims look to support a tubeless set up it seems 
> like I'll need the following;
> tubeless compatible tires
> rim tape (Gorilla)
> tubeless valve stems
> tire sealant
> I have done the same conversion on a dirt motorcycle so familiar with the 
> concept and install procedures but...
> 
> What am I missing? Any caveats? Am I mad to attempt this? Plus any other 
> advice would be most welcome.
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[RBW] Convert to Tubeless?

[Philip Barrett]

Okey dokey folks - I'm thinking I'd like to convert my Clem Smith (650b) to 
tubeless. Reason being that my neighborhood and favorite route to the 
trails is pretty much old school industrial and I'm constantly fighting 
punctures from debris. Since the Alex rims look to support a tubeless set 
up it seems like I'll need the following;

   - tubeless compatible tires
   - rim tape (Gorilla)
   - tubeless valve stems
   - tire sealant

I have done the same conversion on a dirt motorcycle so familiar with the 
concept and install procedures but...

What am I missing? Any caveats? Am I mad to attempt this? Plus any other 
advice would be most welcome.

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

[Patrick Moore]

About 3:17: clarinet solo: honking a hill in a 70" gear with strong wind at
your back.

The Jerry Garcia of clarinetists.

Over and out.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 9:09 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Very late to the party as usual, but the band merits its mention.
>
> Bike content: Riv custom road clone built for 1930s-1950s SA hub gears,
> music: one of Tuba Skinny's classics, late version:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I-aWr8uvgw
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 8:05 AM Den John  wrote:
>
>> OK, since we're off topic anyway, which companies/individual
>> framebuilders can be compared with which classic rock bands/musicians?
>> Here's a couple of attempts:
>>
>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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[RBW] Something similar to Rustines Constructeur Grips?

[Benjamin Kelley]

Good Day Group,
I'm building up a new bike (Raleigh Clubman with S couplers I snagged off 
ebay a while back) and went to purchase some Rustines Constructeur grips, 
which are my favorite, only to find that supplies of them in the US have 
dried up.
Velo Orange doesn't stock any Rustines products any longer. Good thing I 
bought a bunch of patches a while back.
Rustines.fr wants 45euros just for shipping.   Bluelug and Harris both out 
of stock.

Anyone know of any similar grips?  Ribbed, soft, natural rubber.
Are the VO Kraton basket weave a similar feel?  I could settle for those if 
so.


--ben in KC


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Re: [RBW] Rivendell vs Crust! Which is Better?

[Patrick Moore]

Very late to the party as usual, but the band merits its mention.

Bike content: Riv custom road clone built for 1930s-1950s SA hub gears,
music: one of Tuba Skinny's classics, late version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I-aWr8uvgw



On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 8:05 AM Den John  wrote:

> OK, since we're off topic anyway, which companies/individual framebuilders
> can be compared with which classic rock bands/musicians? Here's a couple of
> attempts:
>

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Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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[RBW] Re: Lil Loafer cover?

[Joe Bernard]

We'll know soon enough, it's on the way to Ryan who has a Banana Bag as 
well. The one I sent is rectangle-ish so I suspect it's the Lil Loafer one, 
I'm pretty sure that was the bag I bought it for. Like I was ever going to 
ride in the rain! 



On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 5:19:36 PM UTC-8 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> Hi Joe,
>
> I actually have two of those banana bag covers, and the shape of the 
> covers is such that I don't see how they can fit a Lil' Loafer.
>
> I'll actually like to get a handful of Lil' Loafer covers myself, as a few 
> of my bikes have the nice plaid ones, and hard as I try, I just can't bring 
> myself to accelerate their beausage.
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 4:08:35 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Hi Ryan,
>>
>> Keep an eye out for an email with pic if the frickin thing ever sends, it 
>> doesn't seem to want to post here or there. I have an unused Riv cover 
>> which I think was designed for Banana Bags but should fit Lil Loafers, too. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-8 rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone: Some time back Rivendell made the "Lil Loafer" which I have 
>>> in tweed.  I think a rain cover was made for it.  Does anyone have one or 
>>> have any ideas for making a cover?  Thanks a lot.
>>>
>>> Ryan 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Lil Loafer cover?

[Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA]

Hi Joe,

I actually have two of those banana bag covers, and the shape of the covers 
is such that I don't see how they can fit a Lil' Loafer.

I'll actually like to get a handful of Lil' Loafer covers myself, as a few 
of my bikes have the nice plaid ones, and hard as I try, I just can't bring 
myself to accelerate their beausage.

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 4:08:35 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Hi Ryan,
>
> Keep an eye out for an email with pic if the frickin thing ever sends, it 
> doesn't seem to want to post here or there. I have an unused Riv cover 
> which I think was designed for Banana Bags but should fit Lil Loafers, too. 
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:11:38 AM UTC-8 rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone: Some time back Rivendell made the "Lil Loafer" which I have 
>> in tweed.  I think a rain cover was made for it.  Does anyone have one or 
>> have any ideas for making a cover?  Thanks a lot.
>>
>> Ryan 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike day- Red Mixte but not a Raspberry Platypus.

[Linda G]

Does this bike feel flexy with a load in front and back, set fairly high on 
your racks? I ask because I have a Velo Orange mixte, size 54, which has a 
similar design and rack configuration. The flex bothers me. It's kind of an 
unstable feeling side to side. It's also enough to make the rear brake rub 
on a rough road. I'm looking for an alternative and the Platypus is too 
long and big-tired for me. I like the fact that the Soma can run 650 b's.
Linda

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:25 AM UTC-8 Tom Palmer wrote:

> Hi all,
> This is a cross post for IBob, with correction, now with Riv content.
> I built this Soma Buena Vista up over the winter and finally rode it. 
> Probably the best first ride on a new bike ever, maybe I am finally 
> understanding how to fit my own bikes. undoubtedly, things will change, but 
> its pretty close right now. The build is pretty Bobish- 650b with 38mm Pari 
> motos (red Hetres on the way as change #1) Shimano Deore rear hub Shimano 
> dyno front on velocity Dyad rims. Tektro r559 brakes that stop very well. 
> Riv Nitto Choco norm bars on long generic stem. SKS longboard fenders at 
> least for now. Front basket and rear rack for commuting if that is ever a 
> thing in the future. Drivtrain is 10 speed microshift shifters and Shimano 
> SLX deraillers. and  a vintage Shimano 600 crankset with Willow triplizer 
> 46/30 chainrings. Rides great- tweaked the bars a few times after about 5 
> miles into the ride. Hit  a couple steep hills and climbs well in the bends 
> of the Chocos. The interweb info on this for tire fit is way conservative. 
> I had 650bx48 Pari motos on at first and they fit fine, probably fenders 
> too. The handling is typical high trail drop road bike even with the swept 
> back bars. This is a little surprising. I was afraid it would be too light 
> but the longer chainstays may play into it- 450mm. Geometry is pretty road 
> bike too- 73 degree parallel with 45mm rake. This is the biggest frame they 
> still make-58cm. They did have a 62 in the past. The color is tremendous- 
> even better than anything on the web. Russo Red is what they call it and it 
> really pops. Real paint, not powder coat.
>
> Doing a tour of lakes Huron, Superior, and Michigan in the fall, and this 
> may be the ride.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Tom, 

Terrifying! You’ll get your perfect Platypus and not your Fat Bike...I’ve got a 
good feeling!  I completely understand the wild dreams. Somewhere I know I’ve 
told this story, but I used to have a recurring nightmare that my Betty Foy got 
stolen. It was so unthinkable that my brain always solved the problem before I 
woke up. In the dream I would be devastated and looking around for my bike, and 
then - like magic - an extra Betty Foy frame in just my size (!) would appear 
in the garage and the crisis would be averted. I was still sore about losing my 
best gal, but I had a clone and then I would wake up.

Leah



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> On Mar 4, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Tom Wyland  wrote:
> 
> Mike M:  Just turn on closed captions for English-ish translation. 
> 
> For what's it worth I had a dream last night that I went to Rivendell and the 
> Platypus frames all showed up defective.  They tried to sell me a fat-tired 
> folding E-bike.  Terrifying stuff. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 12:23:18 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>> Bluelug just posted a Platypus build video.
>> I wish I understood Japanese!
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga8o1WKWgXs=537s
>> 
>> Mike M
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Philip Barrett]

I went down the Pliny road with my boss once...neither of us were at our 
best the next day!

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 4:14:55 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> PtY!  Nice!  I got to try it last year thanks to being bottled and a 
> friend travelling for it.  I don't see myself making that kind of trip for 
> a beer unless it's Cantillon at the source, but even then, it would be 
> partly to ride my bike around Belgium. 
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 3:46 PM reynoldslugs  wrote:
>
>> My tooling is modest, but the lubricants are all in order.  Phil Wood and 
>> Pliny the Younger.
>>
>> [image: IMG_4012.JPG]
>>
>> Max Beach
>> Santa Rosa CA
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:02:48 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I love seeing shops, tools and workbenches and thought it would be nice 
>>> to see where everyone works on their bikes. Here are a few views from my 
>>> shed. 
>>>
>>> [image: shed1.jpg][image: shed2.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: shed4.jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

"For what's it worth I had a dream last night that I went to Rivendell and 
the Platypus frames all showed up defective.  They tried to sell me a 
fat-tired folding E-bike.  Terrifying stuff."

The way this would work in real like (cuz I'm the ebike liker around here) 
is I would be in the parking lot selling that e-folder out of my trunk and 
Grant would be chasing me off the premises 藍

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 11:15:03 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:

> Mike M:  Just turn on closed captions for English-ish translation. 
>
> For what's it worth I had a dream last night that I went to Rivendell and 
> the Platypus frames all showed up defective.  They tried to sell me a 
> fat-tired folding E-bike.  Terrifying stuff. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 12:23:18 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> Bluelug just posted a Platypus build video.
>> I wish I understood Japanese!
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga8o1WKWgXs=537s
>>
>> Mike M
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[R Shannon]

It is indeed Jim Langley. Agree with Garth on how well the information is 
presented.

Best,
Rich in ATL
(Building a set of wheels right now)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Pancake  wrote:
> 
> Is this the video you were referring to? 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqul03hbZ8
> Jim Langley (not Land)?
> 
>> On Monday, 19 October 2020 at 10:48:25 UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  You'll be alright Steven. The difference to me between wheels built by 
>> me and wheels built by a dedicated professional is theirs are within tighter 
>> tolerances and they don't ever need touched, at least mine haven't and I 
>> have a 20 year old pair from Joe Young. They also do it much quicker of 
>> course. 
>> 
>>Jim Land on youtube has the best video of building/truing wheels I've 
>> seen, his way is presentation is very easy going and more intuitive than all 
>> the books that I once read, and hated. 
>> 
>> "Just one more book Alice ... and POW .. right in the kisser !" 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Mark's rack (Nitto M-1)

[Eric G@rs]

Sold

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:24:16 PM UTC-8 Eric G@rs wrote:

> I have a Mark's rack in good condition that I am looking to sell for 70$. 
> The struts are cut, but new ones are available from the Rivendell website. 
> I am planning to go on a stem sizing odyssey soon so willing to trade a 
> ~7cm tallux or technomic (26.0 clamp) + cash as well. Local preferred for 
> swap, but willing to ship as well. 
>
> Eric 
> Menlo Park
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Re: [RBW] FS 55 MUSA Roadeo

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Asking $2800. Sorry I forgot to post it with the listing.

A

On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:53 PM Ahmed Elgasseir 
wrote:

> Hi All,
> Like many of you, I too have the bug of always wanting/needing another
> bike so. I am parting ways with my 55 MUSA Roadeo in order to fund my
> condition. This is a perfect Roadbike in stellar condition, lovingly cared
> for, and only ridden sparingly as it's part of my stupidly large stable of
> bikes.
>
> 55 frame
> 48cm Nitto Noodles plus Nitto Tallux stem
> Cork handlebar tape
> Tektro Sidepulls
> 700c Shimano 105/Velocity A23 36 back 32 front
> Schwalbe Marathons
> MKS pedals
> Silver downtube shifters
> Sugino Compact Double, 48x34 × 1
> 9 Speed 11-32t
> Seat Post - Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow
> Saddle and saddlebag NOT INCLUDED
> Built up at Riv in early 2019
> I'd really prefer to sell local and not ship it but could be persuaded.
> I'm on the SF Peninsula
> More pics if you want them.
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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Jonathan D.]

I am in Portland Oregon.  Thank you Sean!

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Sean McDermott wrote:

> Hey Jonathan,
> What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local pickup 
> is possible?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
>> MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
>> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
>> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 for 
>> the Toyo.
>>
>> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded 
>> for it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought 
>> from the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly 
>> because of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>>
>> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano (can't 
>> tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, Brooks 
>> C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, Sugino Crank 
>> triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm tires. 
>> The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity Hubs. 
>> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
>> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>>
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>>
>> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
>>  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
>> want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
>> enough parts.
>>
>> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
>> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
>>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis has 
>>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length may 
>>> be helpful.  
>>>
>>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be ridden.  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>>
 I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This is 
 a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a MUSA 
 Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a little 
 small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider including. 
  

 These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush 
 to sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus 
 shipping. I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer 
 questions.

 https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx

>>>

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[RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Tom Wyland]

Mike M:  Just turn on closed captions for English-ish translation. 

For what's it worth I had a dream last night that I went to Rivendell and 
the Platypus frames all showed up defective.  They tried to sell me a 
fat-tired folding E-bike.  Terrifying stuff. 



On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 12:23:18 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Bluelug just posted a Platypus build video.
> I wish I understood Japanese!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga8o1WKWgXs=537s
>
> Mike M
>
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[RBW] FS - Aussie Wool Shirt - High Neck Long-Sleeve - Mossy Green - Large

[Huston]

For sale is an Aussie Wool Shirt.  High neck, long sleeve.  Large in Mossy 
Green.  I purchased this shirt from Riv in December of 2020, but it is 
unfortunately too big for me.  Excellent condition: washed but otherwise 
like new.  $55 shipped to CONUS.  Please send a PM if interested.

Thanks,
Huston
Lexington, KY

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Robb]

Shimano SH-SD500 cycling sandal. I have two pairs, one without cleats for 
platforms (Grip Kings & Crank Brothers Stamp) and the other with cleats for 
Crank Brother Mallet/ Double Shots
https://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/shimano-sh-sd501-cycling-sandal

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:22:43 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> I like riding in Vans sk8 hi or Crocs. So really just the shoes I would 
> wear around anyway. I wear boots when I have to.  I have some Sorels with a 
> thin sole that work well in the winter. If it's warmer and wet, splats are 
> pretty great and so stylish. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:03:48 PM UTC-6 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>> I’m on my second pair of Chrome Kursks.
>> The old ones lasted years, off-road and on.
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>>
>>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>>
>>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>>> bother me all those years.
>>>
>>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brown Gilles Berthoud Aspin Saddle

[James Heller-Jackson]

Saddle has sold.  Thanks everyone for your interest.

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 9:56:03 AM UTC-8 James Heller-Jackson wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Thought I was going to give this saddle a go, but alas, build plans 
> change.  I bought it from someone else unused (looks like rails haven't 
> been touched at all) and haven't mounted it myself.  Please see photos 
> linked below, there are a few VERY small imperfections from being stored, 
> but no signs of being ridden.  Hope this finds someone who will show it off 
> the way it deserves.  Asking $190 shipped through USPS to CONUS.  Let me 
> know if you have any questions - can also email pictures if the link is 
> somehow (always) finnicky or it's simply easier to view in an email. 
>
> Album image links:
> https://ibb.co/album/Nx49Tw
>
> Thanks,
> James
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Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Seth Friedman]

these just came out if you want the option for cleats :) seth in seattle
https://www.adidas.com/us/the-velosamba-cycling-shoes/FW4459.html

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:37 PM Michael Morrissey <
michaelgmorris...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know you or your style but why not these?
>
> https://www.adidas.com/us/campus-80s-shoes/FX5438.html
>
> I have a bunch of new balance running shoes and they're all too soft for
> cycling.
>
> My favorites of all time are Adidas ZX700 but they are discontinued.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>
>> There are always the venerable blundstones...they have added the "active
>> line" that might actual fit your needs pretty well. Splash proof, not water
>> proof.
>> Men's Active Series - Lightweight Casual, Dress & Outdoor Boots -
>> Blundstone USA 
>>
>> For the local rides in and around fall/winter/early spring Sacramento and
>> the lower sierras, I like these:
>> La Sportiva Wildcat Trail-Running Shoes - Men's | REI Co-op
>> 
>>
>> Still running shoes, but "trail" (can I start using the "back in my day"
>> when referencing 15 year old trends, ha) so it just means they are a bit
>> stiffer and have stickier soles. They are also splash proof, but i'd not
>> recommend using these for extended rides in the rain as they take forever
>> to dry. I've had my pair for 3 years now and they are still going strong
>>
>> Come summer time, i throw on my bedrock sandals cause its HOT here, and
>> the river is nearby so I can do a mid or end-of-ride dip in the American
>> river. Not what you asked, but seasonal shoes might be worth considering if
>> your local climate warrants it.
>>
>> Collin, its sandal weather here, in Sacramento
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes
>>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>>
>>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years,
>>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I
>>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few
>>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip
>>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>>
>>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy
>>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't
>>> bother me all those years.
>>>
>>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and
>>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Samuel Huang]

+1 on Sambas. Apparently Adidas just released a cycling-specific model 
today called the Velosamba. Basically the same thing as a Samba but with 
stiffer sole and SPD compatibility. Pricey though!
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 6:24:38 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
> construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
> waterproof. Have worn them for years. 
>
> I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
>> sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
>> Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
>> pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
>> Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
>>> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
>>> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
>>> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
>>> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
>>> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>>>
>>> --Ed C.
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>>

 Hi all,

 I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
 people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.

 I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
 but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
 tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a 
 few 
 years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
 doesn't hold up when they're wet.

 I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
 running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
 bother me all those years.

 So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
 reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)

 Thanks for your thoughts!

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS 56 MUSA Atlantis 650b Great Condition.

[Sean McDermott]

Hey Jonathan,
What a wonderful bike! Where are you located, just in case a local pickup 
is possible?

Thanks,
Sean
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:04:06 PM UTC-5 Jonathan D. wrote:

> Thanks Doug. You are right it needs more information.  I can't find the 
> MUSA Geometry chart but I am confident someone has it.  I think it is 
> similar to the Toyo Atlantis but with longer chain stays - I want to say 
> 47-48 mm for Waterford, versus 52 range for the new MIT version, and 45 for 
> the Toyo.
>
> Here is an old listing that the previous bike mechanic posted I traded for 
> it. I traded a 58 Atlantis that Doug connected me with and I bought from 
> the list. I rode it maybe 200 miles since I traded for it, mostly because 
> of Covid and very little bike commuting. 
>
> It has Nitto Noodle bars, Shimano brakes, bar ends but not Shimano (can't 
> tell name), Origin Seatpost but probably have a Nitto and can look, Brooks 
> C17 but could trade it for a leather B17, Cx-70 Canti Brakes, Sugino Crank 
> triple, 9 speed cassette, Deore Rear derailleur, and Pasela 42 mm tires. 
> The Wheels are Velocity Atlas wheels, Atlas rims with Velocity Hubs. 
> Everything looks in great shape.  I found one small paint chip on the top 
> tube and will add a picture when the sun is shining.  
>
> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2629426/
>
> I would love to sell to someone local.  These bikes are hard to price. 
>  I'll drop to $2250 plus shipping. Happy to talk build and price.  I don't 
> want to part out, because of the hassle of selling each part.  I have 
> enough parts.
>
> I am not in a rush to sell and if I don't sell this one, I might try 
> selling a 55 Joe Appaloosa or Some Grand Randeneur. 
>
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:22:12 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>
>> Not in the market (I already have a 58 cm Atlantis) but a couple of 
>> questions come to mind that potential buyers may ask.  Cassette? (range & 
>> how many speeds?) Chainring sizes?  Brakes? Hubs? Tires?  The Atlantis has 
>> evolved a lot over the last few years, so listing the chainstay length may 
>> be helpful.  
>>
>> Best of luck in finding it a new home.  An Atlantis needs to be ridden.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>>> I decided I have too many bikes and need to sell at least one.  This is 
>>> a really nice, great condition, typical Rivendell build.  This is a MUSA 
>>> Atlantis, 650 B, size 56.  My PBH is 85.5 and I fit.  It might be a little 
>>> small.  I was planning on keep the racks, but happy to consider including.  
>>>
>>> These bikes are hard to know what they are worth.  I am not in a rush to 
>>> sell but wanted to put it out there.  I am asking for $2500 plus shipping. 
>>> I will have it professionally packaged.  I am happy to answer questions.
>>>
>>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0ZGf693ZgcrSx
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

[Anthony Coffin]

A lot has to do with how high your bars are and what kind of riding your
doing, in my experience. The higher the bar the more likely it is to be
tilted. Tilt can really be a benefit off pavement, especially bumpy
descents.

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:03 PM 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>   I tilt my Albatross bars down like Eric's Alba's or Tom's Tosco's. I
> like a nearly 90 degree angle between the bar and my arm/wrist. With stem
> length & height, bar height, bar angle, and grips, everyone's needs are
> different , but one absolutely needs to tighten that bar clamp.
>
> John
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[RBW] Re: FS: Schwalbe G-One Allround 29x2.25

[RDS]

SOLD

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 12:08:22 PM UTC-5 RDS wrote:

> 2 Tires for sale .. these are the stock tires that came on my Gus .. Only 
> used for a couple of rides on a paved bike path, so tons of tread 
> remaining.  Schwalbe G-One Allround 29x2.25.  Asking $75 total for both 
> tires. shipping not included.  See pic link below.  Contact off list.  
> Paypal for payment.
>
> For shipping quotes, the shipping box size is 10x14x8 and approx 8 lbs and 
> ships from zip code 30040. 
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fa0woQ5CT1ZrVdPOsqz0iJ7KvAlYtxj8?usp=sharing
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[RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[velomann]

Bluelug just posted a Platypus build video.
I wish I understood Japanese!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga8o1WKWgXs=537s

Mike M

On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> [image: 4AFE365B-C68C-46F4-A214-CAF3AF3A5949.jpeg]It’s going to be your 
> turn! It’s finally 2021 and January is the month of the mixte, or so the 
> Riv site says. I’m really excited to see everyone’s new bikes and how each 
> one is set up. Did anyone get a Platypus voucher for a Christmas present? 
> Or maybe no excuse was necessary - you’re just getting it. What do you have 
> in mind for your new bike? Commuter? Adventure bike? Rambler? Errands? 
>
> You’re in for such a treat. The bike is light, fun, gorgeous, and very 
> capable. I can’t wait to hear your news and see your photos. If you’re on 
> Instagram, Rivendell has an official hashtag for us to use: #rbwplatypus. 
>
> Happy New Year!
> Leah
>
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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[Patrick Moore]

I've got a 2 car garage all to myself, though the car takes up half the
space, generally. But I've been dragging my feet over workbench cleanup and
won't post photos of its current state of disarray.

Alan's closet reminds me of a neat solution I found almost 18 years ago
when I lived for 6 months in a 1 bedroom apartment. Off the kitchen was a
utility closet big enough for full size washer and dryer, which perfectly
fit my workbench with a utility shelf on one side and a pegboard above.
Open the door and you were ready to work at the bench; close it for
aesthetics.

Overhauling bikes with stand on living room carpet was another matter,
though (kitchen too small).

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 8:44 PM alan lavine  wrote:

>
> Well, it ain't easy in a NYC apartment.  This is our guest room, really
> only used by the grandkids 1-2x month.  I was given this closet for my
> tools and some basic hardware.  So I spread out an old sheet, open the Park
> work stand and do what I can.  In the closet you'll see a folding Park
> workbench that I occasionally use.  Parts and bikes are in storage units in
> the basement, so not so convenient if I need a part in the middle of a job.
>
> But these photos remind me fondly of when we had a house with a big garage
> and workshop room off of the garage.  On Saturday mornings when I wasn't
> working I put on my apron, lit a big fat, stinky cigar and started
> wrenching.  Listening to Clic and Clac, the Tappett
> Bros of Car Talk fame. They were brilliantly funny and incredibly
> knowledgeable about cars. More than once the cigar fell to the ground as I
> laughed hysterically.
>
> Don't drive like my brother...
>

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[RBW] FS: Schwalbe G-One Allround 29x2.25

[RDS]

2 Tires for sale .. these are the stock tires that came on my Gus .. Only 
used for a couple of rides on a paved bike path, so tons of tread 
remaining.  Schwalbe G-One Allround 29x2.25.  Asking $75 total for both 
tires. shipping not included.  See pic link below.  Contact off list.  
Paypal for payment.

For shipping quotes, the shipping box size is 10x14x8 and approx 8 lbs and 
ships from zip code 30040. 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fa0woQ5CT1ZrVdPOsqz0iJ7KvAlYtxj8?usp=sharing

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[RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[Pancake]

Is this the video you were referring to? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqul03hbZ8
Jim Langley (not Land)?

On Monday, 19 October 2020 at 10:48:25 UTC-7 Garth wrote:

>
>
>
>  You'll be alright Steven. The difference to me between wheels built 
> by me and wheels built by a dedicated professional is theirs are within 
> tighter tolerances and they don't ever need touched, at least mine haven't 
> and I have a 20 year old pair from Joe Young. They also do it much quicker 
> of course. 
>
>Jim Land on youtube has the best video of building/truing wheels I've 
> seen, his way is presentation is very easy going and more intuitive than 
> all the books that I once read, and hated. 
>
> "Just one more book Alice ... and POW .. right in the kisser !" 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[rltilley]

And we have a winner. That is impressive. 

I’m not showing pictures of mine since it is currently hidden under a bunch of 
junk due to us doing a bit of remodeling. I need to build up a new frame so 
I’ll be setting up the workstand in the house and building it there for now.

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

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> On Mar 4, 2021, at 5:18 AM, lconley  wrote:
> 
> The Garage Mahal:
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> Laing
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[RBW] Re: Workshop Stand

[Mike Godwin]

Both the stand and the garage are impressive.

Mike garage-less in SLO CA

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 7:04:56 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:

> Here are some photos of the stand that I made from scrap pipe fittings in 
> 1987. I had no idea I would use it forever.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

[Patch T]

Everyone's different!
I like my Albatrosses tilted downward and my saddle just above the height 
of the bends. 
This gives me an upright position (for me, relatively) at the ends; a 
position at the bends that is very close to my drop-bar builds, good for 
efforts; and every spot in-between.
I personally never enjoyed these bars at or above saddle height.
I like keep the bars free of everything but brake levers so I can use as 
much of the freed up real estate as possible.

Patch
BK/NY

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:01:50 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> Yes, tighten that stem clamp. I think the move to 31.8 clamp makes sense 
> for swept back bars. The 31.8 Tosco feels super solid wiith the Nitto 
> faceplate quill stem.
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 1:03:43 PM UTC-6 John Phillips wrote:
>
>>   I tilt my Albatross bars down like Eric's Alba's or Tom's Tosco's. I 
>> like a nearly 90 degree angle between the bar and my arm/wrist. With stem 
>> length & height, bar height, bar angle, and grips, everyone's needs are 
>> different , but one absolutely needs to tighten that bar clamp.
>>
>> John
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[lconley]

No, just a collection that got out of hand when I was single. There were 
also seven cars at one point... 

Laing

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 9:53:05 AM UTC-5 philip wrote:

> Laing; that must be semi-commercial or full-commercial operation?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[Philip Barrett]

Laing; that must be semi-commercial or full-commercial operation?



On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 8:03:25 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Laing, I am at a loss for words. If you ever have a yard sale, and it's 
> after the pandemic, I'm making special travel arrangements! 
>
> On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 8:32:31 AM UTC-5 James Valiensi wrote:
>
>> I am lucky to have a house and a full garage shop. I used to make frames 
>> in it. I have way too many bike tools.
>> But years ago I used to live in an apartment. I had fewer tools, but 
>> bikes were simpler and less was needed. Even a Campy full tool kit was more 
>> than you needed to maintain bicycles. 
>> I did not have a Park type work stand. I had a stand that held the rear 
>> wheel up by grabbing the left seat and chain stays. It's perfect for 
>> cleaning, replacing chains, adjusting. 
>> My apartment had a tiny balcony, just long enough for the bike and me. 
>> Thats where I’d do the dirty work, like chain cleaning. 
>>
>> Remarkably, bicycles require little care. If you keep them relatively 
>> clean and lubed, they will roll on forever. One must to remember to clean 
>> in betweem the stem & steerer tube, where sweat drips and will eventually 
>> corrode the stem and steerer tube together permanently.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:56 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> Feeling the jealousy as a (insanely expensive) city apartment dweller!  I 
>> dream of a workshop as well as a garden one day - but not here, since 
>> liveable detached houses start at ~$1.6M currently in my hood. 
>>
>> My workshop is the bit of space between our kitchen island and our living 
>> room  
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[RBW] Re: New Bike day- Red Mixte but not a Raspberry Platypus.

[Marc Irwin]

Red bikes are faster, everybody knows!

Marc


On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:45:30 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Well, if it can’t be a red Platy, this is the next best thing! Riding the 
> Great Lakes? JEALOUS OVER HERE.
>
> Mixtes in shades of red are the new cool kids in town.
> Leah
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:52:53 AM UTC-8 Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>> No, Tom I didn't name this one.  I had a little too much fun building the 
>> first one.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 5:58:35 PM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:
>>
>>> Looks very racy, Marc! 
>>> i also read everything you wrote about Byron during my search. 
>>> Does this one have a name?
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:27:24 AM UTC-5 Marc Irwin wrote:
>>>

 Nice looking build, I got one last year and built it very light for 
 brisk city riding and commuting.  I love it.  The red is real, damn red.   

 Marc[image: 20200104_150722.jpg]
 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 9:18:25 AM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:

> Hi all,
> This is a cross post for IBob, with correction, now with Riv content.
> I built this Soma Buena Vista up over the winter and finally rode it. 
> Probably the best first ride on a new bike ever, maybe I am finally 
> understanding how to fit my own bikes. undoubtedly, things will change, 
> but 
> its pretty close right now. The build is pretty Bobish- 650b with 38mm 
> Pari 
> motos (red Hetres on the way as change #1) Shimano Deore rear hub Shimano 
> dyno front on velocity Dyad rims. Tektro r559 brakes that stop very well. 
> Riv Nitto Choco norm bars on long generic stem. SKS longboard fenders at 
> least for now. Front basket and rear rack for commuting if that is ever a 
> thing in the future. Drivtrain is 10 speed microshift shifters and 
> Shimano 
> SLX deraillers. and  a vintage Shimano 600 crankset with Willow triplizer 
> 46/30 chainrings. Rides great- tweaked the bars a few times after about 5 
> miles into the ride. Hit  a couple steep hills and climbs well in the 
> bends 
> of the Chocos. The interweb info on this for tire fit is way 
> conservative. 
> I had 650bx48 Pari motos on at first and they fit fine, probably fenders 
> too. The handling is typical high trail drop road bike even with the 
> swept 
> back bars. This is a little surprising. I was afraid it would be too 
> light 
> but the longer chainstays may play into it- 450mm. Geometry is pretty 
> road 
> bike too- 73 degree parallel with 45mm rake. This is the biggest frame 
> they 
> still make-58cm. They did have a 62 in the past. The color is tremendous- 
> even better than anything on the web. Russo Red is what they call it and 
> it 
> really pops. Real paint, not powder coat.
>
> Doing a tour of lakes Huron, Superior, and Michigan in the fall, and 
> this may be the ride.
>
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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Laing, I am at a loss for words. If you ever have a yard sale, and it's 
after the pandemic, I'm making special travel arrangements! 

On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 8:32:31 AM UTC-5 James Valiensi wrote:

> I am lucky to have a house and a full garage shop. I used to make frames 
> in it. I have way too many bike tools.
> But years ago I used to live in an apartment. I had fewer tools, but bikes 
> were simpler and less was needed. Even a Campy full tool kit was more than 
> you needed to maintain bicycles. 
> I did not have a Park type work stand. I had a stand that held the rear 
> wheel up by grabbing the left seat and chain stays. It's perfect for 
> cleaning, replacing chains, adjusting. 
> My apartment had a tiny balcony, just long enough for the bike and me. 
> Thats where I’d do the dirty work, like chain cleaning. 
>
> Remarkably, bicycles require little care. If you keep them relatively 
> clean and lubed, they will roll on forever. One must to remember to clean 
> in betweem the stem & steerer tube, where sweat drips and will eventually 
> corrode the stem and steerer tube together permanently.
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:56 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> Feeling the jealousy as a (insanely expensive) city apartment dweller!  I 
> dream of a workshop as well as a garden one day - but not here, since 
> liveable detached houses start at ~$1.6M currently in my hood. 
>
> My workshop is the bit of space between our kitchen island and our living 
> room  
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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[James Valiensi]

I am lucky to have a house and a full garage shop. I used to make frames in it. 
I have way too many bike tools.
But years ago I used to live in an apartment. I had fewer tools, but bikes were 
simpler and less was needed. Even a Campy full tool kit was more than you 
needed to maintain bicycles. 
I did not have a Park type work stand. I had a stand that held the rear wheel 
up by grabbing the left seat and chain stays. It's perfect for cleaning, 
replacing chains, adjusting. 
My apartment had a tiny balcony, just long enough for the bike and me. Thats 
where I’d do the dirty work, like chain cleaning. 

Remarkably, bicycles require little care. If you keep them relatively clean and 
lubed, they will roll on forever. One must to remember to clean in betweem the 
stem & steerer tube, where sweat drips and will eventually corrode the stem and 
steerer tube together permanently.



> On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:56 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> Feeling the jealousy as a (insanely expensive) city apartment dweller!  I 
> dream of a workshop as well as a garden one day - but not here, since 
> liveable detached houses start at ~$1.6M currently in my hood. 
> 
> My workshop is the bit of space between our kitchen island and our living 
> room 
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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Thanks everyone for sharing your benches. This is really cool! 

Thank you, Doug! I like to clear the bench at the end of the day, setting 
things to rights is meditative. Doesn't always happen! 

Eric, wow, looks like a lifetime of mechanical work and riding. It's funny 
how sometimes having two of the same tool comes in handy. I really like the 
custom made stem rack, that's great. And those old GP-era Bridgestone 
posters are sweet. The Grainger box means you must be really serious. (I 
love McMaster-Carr. Last time I ordered metric screws they arrived the next 
morning.) Also dig what looks like a bench for kids. 

Alan – I love the ingenuity of a hideaway bike bench. A Murphy bench? A 
concertina bench? I remember listening to Car Talk on a lot of long drives 
in the countryside. This was during the rerun era but before Tom Magliozzi 
died. Dropping the cigar reminds me of their story about the time a *car* fell 
out of their vehicle lift at the shop. 

Jason, also making do in an apartment, I dig it! Looks like you've got some 
nice plants and a cozy space, and I do spy your dog there! Also dig the 
Kitchen Aid mixer. I recently found a fully functional one at the dump. 
This about sixteen years after a friend found one on the side of the road. 

Good luck with them boiling temps, Collin! That looks like a great place to 
work when the weather's nice. Is that a brass Honjo fender? I love brass. I 
love the way it ages. Sometimes I accelerate the aging by aerating brass 
parts with white vinegar. 




On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 1:13:38 AM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> While it appears I do have more space than Jason, it primarily consists of 
> the deck outside that routinely gets above 100 F in the summer so I have to 
> plan my work routine wisely. Currently all my bits are in the closet that 
> gets pulled out and put back each time I work on the ol' bicycle, otherwise 
> I get yelled at. Bike storage is luckily indoors, in the living room of all 
> places.
> [image: IMG_20200427_160745.jpg]
>
> One day us younger people might actually be able to afford a house (laughs 
> his way to the laundromat...)
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> Collin in Sacramento
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[RBW] Re: Workshop

[Eric Marth]

It did, Alan! This pic and your post appeared in the main thread :) 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:53:33 PM UTC-5 alan lavine wrote:

> Not sure first one went thru.
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> *From: *Alan LaVine 
> *Subject: **Workshop*
> *Date: *March 3, 2021 at 10:27:25 PM EST
> *To: *alan 
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