[RBW] Re: Fattest Tire on a QB?

['Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ive also run BG Rock n Roads on my Simpleone with plenty of clearance. 
Really the only limiting factor are my Paul mini Vs. One thing to take into 
account is I believe the tire clearance gradually increased on different 
batches of the QB and the SO had the most clearance yet.

-Hudson in ATX

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:56:41 PM UTC-5 robert.har...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi everyone --
>
> I recently saw a post on Instagram (which I have subsequently lost track 
> of) that showed a QB rocking Ultradynamico 700ccs (I think they were the 
> Rosè racers). 
>
> As I am in the market for some new rubber I thought -- WOWZA -- that would 
> be fun. So, I'm throwing myself at the mercy of the few the proud the QB 
> riders on this list. What's the fattest you've been able to go on a QB (if 
> it helps, I ride a 58...)
>
> Thanks all --
>
> RGinDC
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Bruce Herbitter]

I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from Universal 
Cycles.  They were in stock and and my custom spec order took about a week to 
lace up and ship to me.

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F  wrote:
> 
> I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way! 
> 
> Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the frame on 
> ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those sooner! I'll do a 
> full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, I'm excited to see what 
> people who aren't named Leah have to say about the bike, though I can confirm 
> her enthusiasm helped me pull the trigger.
>> On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to blame for 
>> the shortage? Double-edged sword...
>> 
>> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it could 
>> sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. Let’s hope 
>> another batch is in the works. 
>> 
>> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they were making 
>> into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not lost! 
>> Leah
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed at 
>>> 12:05.  And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were a direct 
>>> result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!  
>>> 
 On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  wrote:
 Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!
 
 I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if their 
 server might melt down today and he said something to the effect of: 
 ‘Yeah, probably.’
 
 8^}
 
 David
 
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the enthusiasm for 
> this bike?  
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a bike 
>> selling this quickly?
>> 
 On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
 
>>> That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment 
>>> 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
>>> 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
>>> 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
>>> 3:07 55cm lime olive sold out 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the MERMAID 
 but it auto purchased the Lime/Olive.  We'll see what happens.  I 
 clicked as fast as I could on the dot!
 
 
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:
> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says 
> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know 
> if you'd like to trade! :) 
> 
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do 
>> a 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>> 
>> You might be in luck.
>> 
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi 
>>> wrote:
>>> oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I 
>>> missed out... 
>>> 
 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
 Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says 
 $1650. 
 
 
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April 
> Fool's joke? Wishful thinking?
> 
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
> 
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the 
>> reasoning in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's 
>> Blahg has said since 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would 
>> cost more than other models, hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 
>> because the Platypii cost an extra $100 to make. 
>> 
>> From Platy Page:
>> 
>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it 
>> costs us about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first 
>> run, we include a wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed 
>> (naturally) in Australia by an award winning duo of biologists 
>> 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

Yeah -- if Universal has the parts you want in stock for your wheels, they 
get them to you scary fast for custom wheels. The three pairs I have had 
from them were all built incredibly well. 

60cm still in stock. Really considering it for myself still. Just bought 
deck lumber yesterday however and that cost about as much as a Platy 
complete would. I've told myself if there is a 60cm come Monday, I can do 
it. 

Jonathan P. 
Seattle, WA

On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:

> I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from 
> Universal Cycles.  They were in stock and and my custom spec order took 
> about a week to lace up and ship to me.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F  wrote:
>
> I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way! 
>
>
> Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the frame on 
> ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those sooner! I'll do 
> a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, I'm excited to see 
> what people who aren't named Leah have to say about the bike, though I can 
> confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull the trigger.
> On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to blame 
>> for the shortage? Double-edged sword...
>>
>> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it could 
>> sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. Let’s hope 
>> another batch is in the works. 
>>
>> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they were 
>> making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not lost! 
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed at 
>> 12:05.  And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were a direct 
>> result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!  
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  wrote:
>>
>>> Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!
>>>
>>> I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if their 
>>> server might melt down today and he said something to the effect of: ‘Yeah, 
>>> probably.’
>>>
>>> 8^}
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the enthusiasm 
>>> for this bike?  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a bike 
 selling this quickly?

 On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment 

 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
 3:07 55cm lime olive sold out 

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:

> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the MERMAID 
> but it auto purchased the Lime/Olive.  We'll see what happens.  I clicked 
> as fast as I could on the dot!
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:
>
>> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says 
>> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know if 
>> you'd like to trade! :) 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do 
>>> a 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>>>
>>> You might be in luck.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
 oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I 
 missed out... 

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says 
> $1650. 
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April 
>> Fool's joke? Wishful thinking?
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the 
>>> reasoning in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg 
>>> has 
>>> said since 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than 
>>> other 
>>> models, hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii 
>>> cost an 
>>> extra $100 to make. 
>>>

[RBW] Re: New Sam Up and Running

[Erik]

Yeah.  That thing.  :). I called headquarters yesterday and they set me up 
with a wider bottom bracket and a Deore shifter.  When I got it home and 
compared it to the XT I already had sitting there, they were nearly 
identical.  I popped on the 113 BB and shimmed up the XT.  Damn thing 
shifts beautifully, of course.  You were right!  I still want to find a 
more elegant-looking derailer, but this is functionally perfect.  

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 8:55:02 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Love the front derailer! 😁
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem H sizing, availability

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

I am another 65cm H owner... with approx 97-ish pbh, 6'5" height.  My 
seatpost and bar height are extended nearly the same as in Julian's pic 
except I'm using a vintage B72 saddle which is not as tall has his sprung 
saddle (flyer/conquest?) which likely accounts for some overall saddle 
height difference I expect we'd have.

Sounds like you certainly fall between sizes of 59 and 65H... I forget the 
specific min/max but recall I was right near the minimum recommended pbh 
for the 65H.  I almost went with a 59 with the initial Clem release (and 
was really tempted when the first 59 prototype became a webspecial) but 
hesitated having always been stuck with too small off the shelf bikes and 
knew I wanted a more upright and comfortable sized bike for my casual local 
riding (mixed pavement/gravel/multiuse trails.)  I have very little 
standover clearance with the 65 but once I'm in the saddle I'm perfectly 
content and couldn't imagine wanting to go smaller.  I've swapped from 55cm 
Bosco to Jones Loop(660mm 2.5 Riser) to ChocoMoose like Julian shows and 
now have a regular Bullmoose installed. However, if I did a little more 
rough stuff or off-road riding I think I'd actually prefer a 59cm for 
slightly easier mounting/dismounting and a more aggressive bar position 
using my Jones or Bullmoose bars. 

I also thought it was mentioned they'd at least never do the 65cm H again 
but don't recall where/when specifically.

Best,
Brian Cole
Lawrence NJ



On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 7:34:46 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a 101 pbh and ride a 65 Clem (pic attached).  I really like it, but 
> if my pbh were 5-6 cm smaller I think it would be an issue -- esp. if I was 
> not using it primarily as a town bike as you see it set up here. 
>
> I think the 65 is history. 
>
> I'm with Kai -- get the L.   I've been seriously tempted to do so myself. 
> It is also a unicorn of sorts
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:28:41 PM UTC-5 Kevin wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I am semi in the market for a Clem H and am looking for some first person 
>> thoughts on fit. I worry I am in between the 59 and the massive 65. Can 
>> anybody who has ridden either or both of those chime in with their 
>> measurements and how the bikes felt? I think the proper solution to this 
>> problem is to just get the 64 L but I am just not sympatico with the 
>> aesthetics there.
>>
>> I'm about a 95-96 PBH and ride a 62 Sam pretty comfortably with drops, 
>> would prefer more reach every time I've set it up with flats.
>>
>> Also, the bike seems to have been excised from the models section of 
>> Riv's site. Anyone know if they are planning on only offering the step 
>> through model moving forward?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem H sizing, availability

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Here's the answer to everything- search the world for one of these (the 
precious, the Rosco Bubbe) and be forever 
happy- https://photos.app.goo.gl/5UqTJPoisD1FiHJc9  
Doesn't look as steppy throughy as the Clem L, but still gives some room, 
and (risking offense to my fellow Clem 65 owners, sorry folks) rides better 
than the Clems.
-Kai

On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 11:15:26 AM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> I am another 65cm H owner... with approx 97-ish pbh, 6'5" height.  My 
> seatpost and bar height are extended nearly the same as in Julian's pic 
> except I'm using a vintage B72 saddle which is not as tall has his sprung 
> saddle (flyer/conquest?) which likely accounts for some overall saddle 
> height difference I expect we'd have.
>
> Sounds like you certainly fall between sizes of 59 and 65H... I forget the 
> specific min/max but recall I was right near the minimum recommended pbh 
> for the 65H.  I almost went with a 59 with the initial Clem release (and 
> was really tempted when the first 59 prototype became a webspecial) but 
> hesitated having always been stuck with too small off the shelf bikes and 
> knew I wanted a more upright and comfortable sized bike for my casual local 
> riding (mixed pavement/gravel/multiuse trails.)  I have very little 
> standover clearance with the 65 but once I'm in the saddle I'm perfectly 
> content and couldn't imagine wanting to go smaller.  I've swapped from 55cm 
> Bosco to Jones Loop(660mm 2.5 Riser) to ChocoMoose like Julian shows and 
> now have a regular Bullmoose installed. However, if I did a little more 
> rough stuff or off-road riding I think I'd actually prefer a 59cm for 
> slightly easier mounting/dismounting and a more aggressive bar position 
> using my Jones or Bullmoose bars. 
>
> I also thought it was mentioned they'd at least never do the 65cm H again 
> but don't recall where/when specifically.
>
> Best,
> Brian Cole
> Lawrence NJ
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 7:34:46 AM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have a 101 pbh and ride a 65 Clem (pic attached).  I really like it, 
>> but if my pbh were 5-6 cm smaller I think it would be an issue -- esp. if I 
>> was not using it primarily as a town bike as you see it set up here. 
>>
>> I think the 65 is history. 
>>
>> I'm with Kai -- get the L.   I've been seriously tempted to do so myself. 
>> It is also a unicorn of sorts
>>
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:28:41 PM UTC-5 Kevin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I am semi in the market for a Clem H and am looking for some first 
>>> person thoughts on fit. I worry I am in between the 59 and the massive 65. 
>>> Can anybody who has ridden either or both of those chime in with their 
>>> measurements and how the bikes felt? I think the proper solution to this 
>>> problem is to just get the 64 L but I am just not sympatico with the 
>>> aesthetics there.
>>>
>>> I'm about a 95-96 PBH and ride a 62 Sam pretty comfortably with drops, 
>>> would prefer more reach every time I've set it up with flats.
>>>
>>> Also, the bike seems to have been excised from the models section of 
>>> Riv's site. Anyone know if they are planning on only offering the step 
>>> through model moving forward?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] PSA: Cyclists Robbed of Bikes in Berkeley Hills

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

   Just a heads up to riders who frequent Grizzly Peak Road. Article in 
Berkeleyside doesn't say what kinds of bikes, if any, are being targeted:

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2021/04/01/bike-robberies-grizzly-peak-berkeley-oakland-east-bay-hills

John Phillips

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Up and Running

[Joe Bernard]

Eh, at least it's silver, mine was a big black blob sitting over a silver 
crank..I think yours looks fine. That's a beautiful bike! 


On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 7:28:22 AM UTC-7 Erik wrote:

> Yeah.  That thing.  :). I called headquarters yesterday and they set me up 
> with a wider bottom bracket and a Deore shifter.  When I got it home and 
> compared it to the XT I already had sitting there, they were nearly 
> identical.  I popped on the 113 BB and shimmed up the XT.  Damn thing 
> shifts beautifully, of course.  You were right!  I still want to find a 
> more elegant-looking derailer, but this is functionally perfect.  
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 8:55:02 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Love the front derailer! 😁
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Cyclists Robbed of Bikes in Berkeley Hills

[Greg J]

That's really a depressing state of affairs.  These are my backyard rides, 
too.

Greg Jung

On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 10:38:32 AM UTC-7 John Phillips wrote:

>Just a heads up to riders who frequent Grizzly Peak Road. Article in 
> Berkeleyside doesn't say what kinds of bikes, if any, are being targeted:
>
>
> https://www.berkeleyside.com/2021/04/01/bike-robberies-grizzly-peak-berkeley-oakland-east-bay-hills
>
> John Phillips
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Up and Running

[Erik]

Paul Components Touring Cantilevers.  I haven't run cantis in a very long 
time and wanted to try some out for this build.  I only did a very, very 
short ride around the neighborhood on them yesterday because of my injury, 
but I think I got them dialed in pretty well.  

On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 11:19:11 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:

>
> Very nice.  What brakes are those?  I found one from the previous 
> production, new, a few months before these arrived.  Great bikes.  
>
>>



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[RBW] Re: New Sam Up and Running

[Erik]

I took a lot of inspiration from the photo you posted in my thread a month 
or so ago!

On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:58:19 AM UTC-7 zac.te...@gmail.com wrote:

> khaki tape? Gold Sam khaki tape gang rise up! 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

So I bought the frame! According to James at Rivendell, the distance b/t 
the center of the front axle and the center of the canti posts on a Clem L 
52 is 263mm. I measured the distance from my center front axel to the rim 
and it's ~285mm. That's a difference of ~22mm or 2.2cm. So theoretically I 
think the 26" wheel should work. Unless I'm missing something??? Anyway, 
worst case scenario I have to buy a new 650b wheel for the front.  

On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:14:55 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> Well, since it's going to have an Xtracycle extension on the rear, that 
> rear axle measurement doesn't matter much. i just need to know whether a 
> 26" wheel would fit up front. So if anyone with a 52 Clem L could measure 
> the distance from the center of your front axle to the canti/V-brake posts, 
> that would be greatly appreciated. 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:57:57 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Ask any Clem owner to measure from the center of the rear axle to the 
>> center of the brake caliper bolt, that's the magic number you need.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm you're right, the Motolites are built to go the other way -- fitting 
>>> 650b or 700c to a bike meant for 26". I currently have a cheap Shimano 
>>> V-brake on the front. Will measure and see if there's any room for losing 
>>> reach. I like your canti suggestion too. I may email Riv and see what their 
>>> thoughts are. 
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:26 AM Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 If it helps, the 650b wheels that came off this measure as;

 Axle C to inner edge of of rim = 290mm
 Axle C to outer edge of rim = 305mm

 To my calculations you'll need to lose (not gain) 25mm of reach. 
 Centerpull cantilevers might get you there?

 Then again, for the price of a pair of Paul's you could buy a nice set 
 of 650b wheel & call it done?

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:16:40 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy 
 (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:

> I was just looking at that posting! I'm considering upgrading my 
> Xtracylce using this frame. Does anyone know if I can fit a 26" wheel up 
> front, maybe using a Paul Motolite or something with lots of reach? I 
> know 
> the 52 is made for 650b but my current wheelset is 26" Velocity 
> Cliffhanger 
> and I'd rather not have to change it up. 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:09:48 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Update; Bikeflights has settled the claim & the frame was donated to 
>> a kid's bike charity. Currently up for sale on ebay with the damage 
>> shown & 
>> repair noted, might be a deal for someone who is OK with the condition;
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203329558177?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l3160&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=4ac514ba1adb42079cd095c39e2f34f2&bu=44128052550&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20210401070233&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:52:53 AM UTC-5 Philip Barrett wrote:
>>
>>> It was through Bikeflights.com, I've used them before & they were 
>>> excellent so here's hoping they come through. I doubt any frame however 
>>> well packed would have survived whatever it was they dropped on top off 
>>> this, the sides of the Secialized shipping box were actually burst! A 
>>> carbon frame would have just snapped.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:54:59 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>>
 Phillip,

 What a disappointment to discover the damage when you opened the 
 box. Did Rivendell ship your Clem? I've purchased a few frames from 
 them 
 and the dropouts (and fork ends) were always well secured. 
 Good luck and please let us know how this is resolved. 

 Best,
 Rich in ATL


 On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 8:10:16 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ouch. Yeah, if you can get your money back and put that baby back 
> on a truck I think that's the plan. Too much drama. 
>
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:58:39 PM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Chain stay has a pretty decent & visible bend, this one's gone 
>> the journey I'm afraid?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:56:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Not great! There should have been a dropout block in there so it 
>>> wouldn't crush even if UPS screwed up. I'd do whatever legalities 
>>> you need 
>>> with them and take it to a framebuilder to reset the triangle. It's 
>>> not 
>>> broken, just a little bendy at the moment. 
>>>
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Up and Running

[JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very nice. My issue is finding an easy release canti but I have been able to 
get my shimano’s to release better.

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On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:17 PM, Erik  wrote:

> Paul Components Touring Cantilevers. I haven't run cantis in a very long time 
> and wanted to try some out for this build. I only did a very, very short ride 
> around the neighborhood on them yesterday because of my injury, but I think I 
> got them dialed in pretty well.
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 11:19:11 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Very nice. What brakes are those? I found one from the previous production, 
>> new, a few months before these arrived. Great bikes.
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Like a Clem. TIG-welded instead of lugs, it should be a really cool Platy 
design for Clem money. 


On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:

>
> I wonder what on a budget means?
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:20 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [image: 08DD9FD1-5A7C-41FD-9BDD-723C8EEB43D0.png]From Riv’s Instagram 
> today:
>
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Yeah -- if Universal has the parts you want in stock for your wheels, 
>> they get them to you scary fast for custom wheels. The three pairs I have 
>> had from them were all built incredibly well. 
>>
>> 60cm still in stock. Really considering it for myself still. Just bought 
>> deck lumber yesterday however and that cost about as much as a Platy 
>> complete would. I've told myself if there is a 60cm come Monday, I can do 
>> it. 
>>
>> Jonathan P. 
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>> I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from 
>>> Universal Cycles.  They were in stock and and my custom spec order took 
>>> about a week to lace up and ship to me.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way! 
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the frame 
>>> on ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those sooner! I'll 
>>> do a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, I'm excited to see 
>>> what people who aren't named Leah have to say about the bike, though I can 
>>> confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull the trigger.
>>> On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to blame 
 for the shortage? Double-edged sword...

 It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it 
 could sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. Let’s 
 hope another batch is in the works. 

 Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they were 
 making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not lost! 
 Leah

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:

 

 Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed at 
 12:05.  And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were a direct 
 result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!  

 On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  wrote:

> Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!
>
> I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if their 
> server might melt down today and he said something to the effect of: 
> ‘Yeah, 
> probably.’
>
> 8^}
>
> David
>
> On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
> 
> Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the enthusiasm 
> for this bike?  
>
> dougP
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a bike 
>> selling this quickly?
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment 
>>
>> 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
>> 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
>> 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
>> 3:07 55cm lime olive sold out 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the MERMAID 
>>> but it auto purchased the Lime/Olive.  We'll see what happens.  I 
>>> clicked 
>>> as fast as I could on the dot!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:
>>>
 I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says 
 Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know 
 if 
 you'd like to trade! :) 

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could 
> do a 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>
> You might be in luck.
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi 
> wrote:
>
>> oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). 
>> I missed out... 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now 
>>> says $1650. 
>>>
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Joe Bernard]

Mechanically it might work, real world you're going to have a VERY low 
bottom bracket. I say mullet it. 



On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 12:50:13 PM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> So I bought the frame! According to James at Rivendell, the distance b/t 
> the center of the front axle and the center of the canti posts on a Clem L 
> 52 is 263mm. I measured the distance from my center front axel to the rim 
> and it's ~285mm. That's a difference of ~22mm or 2.2cm. So theoretically I 
> think the 26" wheel should work. Unless I'm missing something??? Anyway, 
> worst case scenario I have to buy a new 650b wheel for the front.  
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:14:55 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Well, since it's going to have an Xtracycle extension on the rear, that 
>> rear axle measurement doesn't matter much. i just need to know whether a 
>> 26" wheel would fit up front. So if anyone with a 52 Clem L could measure 
>> the distance from the center of your front axle to the canti/V-brake posts, 
>> that would be greatly appreciated. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:57:57 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ask any Clem owner to measure from the center of the rear axle to the 
>>> center of the brake caliper bolt, that's the magic number you need.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>>
 Hmm you're right, the Motolites are built to go the other way -- 
 fitting 650b or 700c to a bike meant for 26". I currently have a cheap 
 Shimano V-brake on the front. Will measure and see if there's any room for 
 losing reach. I like your canti suggestion too. I may email Riv and see 
 what their thoughts are. 

 On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:26 AM Philip Barrett  
 wrote:

> If it helps, the 650b wheels that came off this measure as;
>
> Axle C to inner edge of of rim = 290mm
> Axle C to outer edge of rim = 305mm
>
> To my calculations you'll need to lose (not gain) 25mm of reach. 
> Centerpull cantilevers might get you there?
>
> Then again, for the price of a pair of Paul's you could buy a nice set 
> of 650b wheel & call it done?
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:16:40 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> I was just looking at that posting! I'm considering upgrading my 
>> Xtracylce using this frame. Does anyone know if I can fit a 26" wheel up 
>> front, maybe using a Paul Motolite or something with lots of reach? I 
>> know 
>> the 52 is made for 650b but my current wheelset is 26" Velocity 
>> Cliffhanger 
>> and I'd rather not have to change it up. 
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:09:48 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Update; Bikeflights has settled the claim & the frame was donated to 
>>> a kid's bike charity. Currently up for sale on ebay with the damage 
>>> shown & 
>>> repair noted, might be a deal for someone who is OK with the condition;
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203329558177?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l3160&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=4ac514ba1adb42079cd095c39e2f34f2&bu=44128052550&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20210401070233&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:52:53 AM UTC-5 Philip Barrett wrote:
>>>
 It was through Bikeflights.com, I've used them before & they were 
 excellent so here's hoping they come through. I doubt any frame 
 however 
 well packed would have survived whatever it was they dropped on top 
 off 
 this, the sides of the Secialized shipping box were actually burst! A 
 carbon frame would have just snapped.

 On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:54:59 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:

> Phillip,
>
> What a disappointment to discover the damage when you opened the 
> box. Did Rivendell ship your Clem? I've purchased a few frames from 
> them 
> and the dropouts (and fork ends) were always well secured. 
> Good luck and please let us know how this is resolved. 
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 8:10:16 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Ouch. Yeah, if you can get your money back and put that baby back 
>> on a truck I think that's the plan. Too much drama. 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:58:39 PM UTC-7 
>> philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Chain stay has a pretty decent & visible bend, this one's gone 
>>> the journey I'm afraid?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 6:56:36 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Not great! There 

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Justin Kennedy]

650 up front and 26 in the rear?

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:29 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Mechanically it might work, real world you're going to have a VERY low
> bottom bracket. I say mullet it.
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 12:50:13 PM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
> NY) wrote:
>
>> So I bought the frame! According to James at Rivendell, the distance b/t
>> the center of the front axle and the center of the canti posts on a Clem L
>> 52 is 263mm. I measured the distance from my center front axel to the rim
>> and it's ~285mm. That's a difference of ~22mm or 2.2cm. So theoretically I
>> think the 26" wheel should work. Unless I'm missing something??? Anyway,
>> worst case scenario I have to buy a new 650b wheel for the front.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:14:55 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> Well, since it's going to have an Xtracycle extension on the rear, that
>>> rear axle measurement doesn't matter much. i just need to know whether a
>>> 26" wheel would fit up front. So if anyone with a 52 Clem L could measure
>>> the distance from the center of your front axle to the canti/V-brake posts,
>>> that would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:57:57 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Ask any Clem owner to measure from the center of the rear axle to the
 center of the brake caliper bolt, that's the magic number you need.

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Hmm you're right, the Motolites are built to go the other way --
> fitting 650b or 700c to a bike meant for 26". I currently have a cheap
> Shimano V-brake on the front. Will measure and see if there's any room for
> losing reach. I like your canti suggestion too. I may email Riv and see
> what their thoughts are.
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:26 AM Philip Barrett 
> wrote:
>
>> If it helps, the 650b wheels that came off this measure as;
>>
>> Axle C to inner edge of of rim = 290mm
>> Axle C to outer edge of rim = 305mm
>>
>> To my calculations you'll need to lose (not gain) 25mm of reach.
>> Centerpull cantilevers might get you there?
>>
>> Then again, for the price of a pair of Paul's you could buy a nice
>> set of 650b wheel & call it done?
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:16:40 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy
>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>
>>> I was just looking at that posting! I'm considering upgrading my
>>> Xtracylce using this frame. Does anyone know if I can fit a 26" wheel up
>>> front, maybe using a Paul Motolite or something with lots of reach? I 
>>> know
>>> the 52 is made for 650b but my current wheelset is 26" Velocity 
>>> Cliffhanger
>>> and I'd rather not have to change it up.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:09:48 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Update; Bikeflights has settled the claim & the frame was donated
 to a kid's bike charity. Currently up for sale on ebay with the damage
 shown & repair noted, might be a deal for someone who is OK with the
 condition;


 https://www.ebay.com/itm/203329558177?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l3160&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=4ac514ba1adb42079cd095c39e2f34f2&bu=44128052550&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20210401070233&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid

 On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:52:53 AM UTC-5 Philip Barrett
 wrote:

> It was through Bikeflights.com, I've used them before & they were
> excellent so here's hoping they come through. I doubt any frame 
> however
> well packed would have survived whatever it was they dropped on top 
> off
> this, the sides of the Secialized shipping box were actually burst! A
> carbon frame would have just snapped.
>
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:54:59 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>
>> Phillip,
>>
>> What a disappointment to discover the damage when you opened the
>> box. Did Rivendell ship your Clem? I've purchased a few frames from 
>> them
>> and the dropouts (and fork ends) were always well secured.
>> Good luck and please let us know how this is resolved.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 8:10:16 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Ouch. Yeah, if you can get your money back and put that baby
>>> back on a truck I think that's the plan. Too much drama.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 4:58:39 PM UTC-7
>>> philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Chain stay has a pretty decent & visible bend, this one's gone
 the journey I'm afr

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Rear Drop Outs

[Joe Bernard]

Yep. The mountain bikers do a thing now - which I don't really understand - 
with 27.5/650B in the rear and 29 front, they call it mullet. Ideally you 
should have 650B rear, too, but your Xtra cycle is 26" so..mullet it!



On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:38:00 PM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> 650 up front and 26 in the rear?
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:29 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Mechanically it might work, real world you're going to have a VERY low 
>> bottom bracket. I say mullet it. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 12:50:13 PM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> So I bought the frame! According to James at Rivendell, the distance b/t 
>>> the center of the front axle and the center of the canti posts on a Clem L 
>>> 52 is 263mm. I measured the distance from my center front axel to the rim 
>>> and it's ~285mm. That's a difference of ~22mm or 2.2cm. So theoretically I 
>>> think the 26" wheel should work. Unless I'm missing something??? Anyway, 
>>> worst case scenario I have to buy a new 650b wheel for the front.  
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:14:55 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>> NY) wrote:
>>>
 Well, since it's going to have an Xtracycle extension on the rear, that 
 rear axle measurement doesn't matter much. i just need to know whether a 
 26" wheel would fit up front. So if anyone with a 52 Clem L could measure 
 the distance from the center of your front axle to the canti/V-brake 
 posts, 
 that would be greatly appreciated. 

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:57:57 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Ask any Clem owner to measure from the center of the rear axle to the 
> center of the brake caliper bolt, that's the magic number you need.
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:36:08 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Hmm you're right, the Motolites are built to go the other way -- 
>> fitting 650b or 700c to a bike meant for 26". I currently have a cheap 
>> Shimano V-brake on the front. Will measure and see if there's any room 
>> for 
>> losing reach. I like your canti suggestion too. I may email Riv and see 
>> what their thoughts are. 
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:26 AM Philip Barrett  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If it helps, the 650b wheels that came off this measure as;
>>>
>>> Axle C to inner edge of of rim = 290mm
>>> Axle C to outer edge of rim = 305mm
>>>
>>> To my calculations you'll need to lose (not gain) 25mm of reach. 
>>> Centerpull cantilevers might get you there?
>>>
>>> Then again, for the price of a pair of Paul's you could buy a nice 
>>> set of 650b wheel & call it done?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 9:16:40 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
 I was just looking at that posting! I'm considering upgrading my 
 Xtracylce using this frame. Does anyone know if I can fit a 26" wheel 
 up 
 front, maybe using a Paul Motolite or something with lots of reach? I 
 know 
 the 52 is made for 650b but my current wheelset is 26" Velocity 
 Cliffhanger 
 and I'd rather not have to change it up. 

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 10:09:48 AM UTC-4 
 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Update; Bikeflights has settled the claim & the frame was donated 
> to a kid's bike charity. Currently up for sale on ebay with the 
> damage 
> shown & repair noted, might be a deal for someone who is OK with the 
> condition;
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/203329558177?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m43.l3160&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=4ac514ba1adb42079cd095c39e2f34f2&bu=44128052550&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20210401070233&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub%2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid
>
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 11:52:53 AM UTC-5 Philip Barrett 
> wrote:
>
>> It was through Bikeflights.com, I've used them before & they were 
>> excellent so here's hoping they come through. I doubt any frame 
>> however 
>> well packed would have survived whatever it was they dropped on top 
>> off 
>> this, the sides of the Secialized shipping box were actually burst! 
>> A 
>> carbon frame would have just snapped.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:54:59 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Phillip,
>>>
>>> What a disappointment to discover the damage when you opened the 
>>> box. Did Rivendell ship your Clem? I've purchased a few frames from 
>>> them 
>>> and the dropouts (and fork ends) were always well secured. 
>>> Good luck and please let us know how this is resolved. 
>>>
>>> Best,
>

Re: [RBW] PSA: Cyclists Robbed of Bikes in Berkeley Hills

[Matthew Williams]

Depressing and scary indeed. Grizzly Peak is one of my favorites. 



On Apr 2, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Greg J  wrote:

> That's really a depressing state of affairs.  These are my backyard rides, 
> too.
> 
> Greg Jung
> 
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 10:38:32 AM UTC-7 John Phillips wrote:
>Just a heads up to riders who frequent Grizzly Peak Road. Article in 
> Berkeleyside doesn't say what kinds of bikes, if any, are being targeted:
> 
> https://www.berkeleyside.com/2021/04/01/bike-robberies-grizzly-peak-berkeley-oakland-east-bay-hills
> 
> John Phillips
> 
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Re: [RBW] PSA: Cyclists Robbed of Bikes in Berkeley Hills

[Jon Dukeman]

The lowest form of human race scum
On the planet👿A bike thief.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 3:25 PM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Depressing and scary indeed. Grizzly Peak is one of my favorites.
>
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2021, at 11:37 AM, Greg J  wrote:
>
> That's really a depressing state of affairs.  These are my backyard rides,
> too.
>
> Greg Jung
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 10:38:32 AM UTC-7 John Phillips wrote:
>
>>Just a heads up to riders who frequent Grizzly Peak Road. Article in
>> Berkeleyside doesn't say what kinds of bikes, if any, are being targeted:
>>
>>
>> https://www.berkeleyside.com/2021/04/01/bike-robberies-grizzly-peak-berkeley-oakland-east-bay-hills
>>
>> John Phillips
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch]

How much is a Clem?

Sent from ProtonMail for iOS

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Like a Clem. TIG-welded instead of lugs, it should be a really cool Platy 
> design for Clem money.
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>> I wonder what on a budget means?
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:20 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> [08DD9FD1-5A7C-41FD-9BDD-723C8EEB43D0.png]From Riv’s Instagram today:
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 Yeah -- if Universal has the parts you want in stock for your wheels, they 
 get them to you scary fast for custom wheels. The three pairs I have had 
 from them were all built incredibly well.

 60cm still in stock. Really considering it for myself still. Just bought 
 deck lumber yesterday however and that cost about as much as a Platy 
 complete would. I've told myself if there is a 60cm come Monday, I can do 
 it.

 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA
 On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:

> I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from 
> Universal Cycles. They were in stock and and my custom spec order took 
> about a week to lace up and ship to me.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F  wrote:
>
>> I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way!
>
>> Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the frame 
>> on ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those sooner! 
>> I'll do a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, I'm 
>> excited to see what people who aren't named Leah have to say about the 
>> bike, though I can confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull the trigger.
>> On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to blame 
>>> for the shortage? Double-edged sword...
>>>
>>> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it 
>>> could sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. Let’s 
>>> hope another batch is in the works.
>>>
>>> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they were 
>>> making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not lost!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
 
>>>
 Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed at 
 12:05. And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were a 
 direct result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!

 On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  wrote:

> Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!
>
> I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if their 
> server might melt down today and he said something to the effect of: 
> ‘Yeah, probably.’
>
> 8^}
>
> David
>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
>> 
>> Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the 
>> enthusiasm for this bike?
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a bike 
>>> selling this quickly?
>>>

>>>
 On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
 That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment

 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
 3:07 55cm lime olive sold out

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:

> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing. I wanted the 
> MERMAID but it auto purchased the Lime/Olive. We'll see what 
> happens. I clicked as fast as I could on the dot!
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes 
> wrote:
>
>> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says 
>> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me 
>> know if you'd like to trade! :)
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 
>> philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I 
>>> could do a 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", 

[RBW] Re: I Wish I Were...

[Craig Montgomery]

Oh heart-tugging deja vu all over again. Saw the Wienermobile when I was a 
kid. And who did I get to say hello to? LIttle Oscar (one of a few), Jerry 
Maren, one of the Munchkins from Wizard of OZ. He gave me a Wiener Whistle. 

Craig, "Wieners tonight on the ol' grill and they're NOT Oscar Mayer" in 
Tucson

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 9:24:05 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> ...an Oscar Mayer Weiner
> That is what I truly wish to be
> Cause if I were a oscar mayer weiner
> Everyone would be in love
> Oh everyone would be in love
> Everyone would be in love with me
>
> [image: PXL_20210330_153846291.jpg]
> [image: PXL_20210330_153908812.jpg]
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch]

Funny

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On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:20 PM, Jon Dukeman  wrote:

> On a budget means the icemaker is on the inside of the refrigerator and you 
> can't control it with your phone.😭
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 2:05 PM JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
>
>> I wonder what on a budget means?
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:20 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> [08DD9FD1-5A7C-41FD-9BDD-723C8EEB43D0.png]From Riv’s Instagram today:
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 Yeah -- if Universal has the parts you want in stock for your wheels, they 
 get them to you scary fast for custom wheels. The three pairs I have had 
 from them were all built incredibly well.

 60cm still in stock. Really considering it for myself still. Just bought 
 deck lumber yesterday however and that cost about as much as a Platy 
 complete would. I've told myself if there is a 60cm come Monday, I can do 
 it.

 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA
 On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:

> I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from 
> Universal Cycles. They were in stock and and my custom spec order took 
> about a week to lace up and ship to me.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F  wrote:
>
>> I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way!
>
>> Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the frame 
>> on ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those sooner! 
>> I'll do a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, I'm 
>> excited to see what people who aren't named Leah have to say about the 
>> bike, though I can confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull the trigger.
>> On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to blame 
>>> for the shortage? Double-edged sword...
>>>
>>> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it 
>>> could sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. Let’s 
>>> hope another batch is in the works.
>>>
>>> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they were 
>>> making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not lost!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
 
>>>
 Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed at 
 12:05. And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were a 
 direct result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!

 On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  wrote:

> Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!
>
> I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if their 
> server might melt down today and he said something to the effect of: 
> ‘Yeah, probably.’
>
> 8^}
>
> David
>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
>> 
>> Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the 
>> enthusiasm for this bike?
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a bike 
>>> selling this quickly?
>>>

>>>
 On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
 That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment

 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
 3:07 55cm lime olive sold out

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:

> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing. I wanted the 
> MERMAID but it auto purchased the Lime/Olive. We'll see what 
> happens. I clicked as fast as I could on the dot!
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes 
> wrote:
>
>> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says 
>> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me 
>> know if you'd like to trade! :)
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 
>> philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I 
>>> could do a 50 or a 55. My PBH is 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

$900 for a frameset (unprepped), which isn't a guarantee of pricing on the 
TIGPlat. Guaranteed cheaper. 


On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:00:24 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:

> How much is a Clem? 
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Like a Clem. TIG-welded instead of lugs, it should be a really cool Platy 
> design for Clem money. 
>
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>>
>> I wonder what on a budget means?
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:20 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [image: 08DD9FD1-5A7C-41FD-9BDD-723C8EEB43D0.png]From Riv’s Instagram 
>> today:
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah -- if Universal has the parts you want in stock for your wheels, 
>>> they get them to you scary fast for custom wheels. The three pairs I have 
>>> had from them were all built incredibly well. 
>>>
>>> 60cm still in stock. Really considering it for myself still. Just bought 
>>> deck lumber yesterday however and that cost about as much as a Platy 
>>> complete would. I've told myself if there is a 60cm come Monday, I can do 
>>> it. 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>
 I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from 
 Universal Cycles.  They were in stock and and my custom spec order took 
 about a week to lace up and ship to me.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F  wrote:

 I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way! 


 Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the frame 
 on ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those sooner! 
 I'll 
 do a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, I'm excited to 
 see 
 what people who aren't named Leah have to say about the bike, though I can 
 confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull the trigger.
 On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to blame 
> for the shortage? Double-edged sword...
>
> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it 
> could sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. Let’s 
> hope another batch is in the works. 
>
> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they were 
> making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not lost! 
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed at 
> 12:05.  And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were a 
> direct 
> result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!  
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  
> wrote:
>
>> Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!
>>
>> I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if their 
>> server might melt down today and he said something to the effect of: 
>> ‘Yeah, 
>> probably.’
>>
>> 8^}
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the enthusiasm 
>> for this bike?  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a bike 
>>> selling this quickly?
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment 
>>>
>>> 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
>>> 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
>>> 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
>>> 3:07 55cm lime olive sold out 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the 
 MERMAID but it auto purchased the Lime/Olive.  We'll see what happens. 
  I 
 clicked as fast as I could on the dot!


 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:

> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says 
> Lime-Olive. :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know 
> if 
> you'd like to trade! :) 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 
> philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could 
>> do a 50 or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>>
>> You migh

[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[ericyue...@gmail.com]

Putting a 137 on my new Sam Hillborne build so am in the market for a bag 
to go into it.  This thread was useful, but I know there are a lot more 
options now so I figured I'd see if folks have any other recommendations.  
I have pretty much the same criteria as the OP.

Thanks,

Eric
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 10:03:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:

> Thanks Ana! You're absolutely right, and I've been using a basket with net 
> and various tote bags for years. Simply looking to up the basket's 
> efficiency considering the growing number of basket-specific bags in 
> production out there. 
>
> And honestly, I wouldn't mind at all if I didn't have to untangle another 
> basket net ever again!
>
>
>
> I still haven't decided y'all. Torn between minimalism and non. It's an 
> identity crisis of sorts.
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Oh, it’s breathtaking, Jared. Just gorgeous. Thank you for sharing this photo! 
I wouldn’t mind hearing all the details of your visit and what your plans are 
for the build of your (her?) new Platy. Congratulations!

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
> 
> Made a special trip to Walnut Creek today :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:34:48 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> $900 for a frameset (unprepped), which isn't a guarantee of pricing on the 
>> TIGPlat. Guaranteed cheaper. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:00:24 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>> How much is a Clem? 
>>> 
>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
 Like a Clem. TIG-welded instead of lugs, it should be a really cool Platy 
 design for Clem money. 
 
 
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
> 
> I wonder what on a budget means?
> 
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:20 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
>> From Riv’s Instagram today:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>> Yeah -- if Universal has the parts you want in stock for your wheels, 
>>> they get them to you scary fast for custom wheels. The three pairs I 
>>> have had from them were all built incredibly well. 
>>> 
>>> 60cm still in stock. Really considering it for myself still. Just 
>>> bought deck lumber yesterday however and that cost about as much as a 
>>> Platy complete would. I've told myself if there is a 60cm come Monday, 
>>> I can do it. 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> 
 On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
 I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from 
 Universal Cycles.  They were in stock and and my custom spec order 
 took about a week to lace up and ship to me.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F  wrote:
>> 
> I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way! 
 
> 
> Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the 
> frame on ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those 
> sooner! I'll do a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, 
> I'm excited to see what people who aren't named Leah have to say 
> about the bike, though I can confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull 
> the trigger.
>> On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to 
>> blame for the shortage? Double-edged sword...
>> 
>> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it 
>> could sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. 
>> Let’s hope another batch is in the works. 
>> 
>> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they 
>> were making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not 
>> lost! 
>> Leah
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed 
>>> at 12:05.  And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales 
>>> were a direct result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!  
>>> 
 On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  
 wrote:
 Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!
 
 I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if 
 their server might melt down today and he said something to the 
 effect of: ‘Yeah, probably.’
 
 8^}
 
 David
 
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the 
> enthusiasm for this bike?  
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle 
>> Ding Ding! wrote:
>> Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a 
>> bike selling this quickly?
>> 
 On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth  
 wrote:
 
>>> That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment 
>>> 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
>>> 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
>>> 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
>>> 3:07 55cm lime olive 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Jared Wilson]

Thank you Leah, it is indeed for my better half and she's over the moon 
with it, she's so happy to join #rivsisters!

We live a little over an hour away so we try to pick up our purchases when 
we can, and obviously we had to for this beauty.

It's always a treat to visit RivHQ and let the dogs get their wiggles out 
after the drive, our new dog (seen peering out of the Clembasack) took a 
real liking to staff member James.

I plan on putting it together Easter Sunday while she prepares dinner, 
seems like a fair trade haha.

I think we've procured everything we need, hoping it goes together as 
easily as my Susie did, I'll be sure to post photos once its together.
On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 4:22:16 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Oh, it’s breathtaking, Jared. Just gorgeous. Thank you for sharing this 
> photo! I wouldn’t mind hearing all the details of your visit and what your 
> plans are for the build of your (her?) new Platy. Congratulations!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Jared Wilson  wrote:
>
> Made a special trip to Walnut Creek today :)
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:34:48 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> $900 for a frameset (unprepped), which isn't a guarantee of pricing on 
>> the TIGPlat. Guaranteed cheaper. 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:00:24 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> How much is a Clem? 
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Like a Clem. TIG-welded instead of lugs, it should be a really cool 
>>> Platy design for Clem money. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>>

 I wonder what on a budget means?

 Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


 On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:20 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 [image: 08DD9FD1-5A7C-41FD-9BDD-723C8EEB43D0.png]From Riv’s Instagram 
 today:


 On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> Yeah -- if Universal has the parts you want in stock for your wheels, 
> they get them to you scary fast for custom wheels. The three pairs I have 
> had from them were all built incredibly well. 
>
> 60cm still in stock. Really considering it for myself still. Just 
> bought deck lumber yesterday however and that cost about as much as a 
> Platy 
> complete would. I've told myself if there is a 60cm come Monday, I can do 
> it. 
>
> Jonathan P. 
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from 
>> Universal Cycles.  They were in stock and and my custom spec order took 
>> about a week to lace up and ship to me.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F  wrote:
>>
>> I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way! 
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the 
>> frame on ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those 
>> sooner! I'll do a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, 
>> I'm 
>> excited to see what people who aren't named Leah have to say about the 
>> bike, though I can confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull the trigger.
>> On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to 
>>> blame for the shortage? Double-edged sword...
>>>
>>> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it 
>>> could sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. Let’s 
>>> hope another batch is in the works. 
>>>
>>> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they 
>>> were making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not 
>>> lost! 
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed 
>>> at 12:05.  And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were a 
>>> direct result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!

 I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if 
 their server might melt down today and he said something to the effect 
 of: 
 ‘Yeah, probably.’

 8^}

 David

 On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:

 
 Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the 
 enthusiasm for this bike?  

 dougP

>

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Peter Adler]

Has anyone actually tried these with non-PDW fenders?

I've had a couple of sets of fancy-pants Honjos for years, which I never 
completely installed on my old Raleigh International, because the Raleigh's 
chainstay bridge wasn't drilled for a mount point and I never got around to 
kludging a satisfactory substitute together. Now I have a Trek 720, which 
has both a drilled chainstay bridge and a seatstay bridge with a fender 
mount hole - but the PDW Safety Tabs (the QRs for the rod stays for metal 
fenders) are made for the 6mm stays of PDW's metal fenders, while the Honjo 
standard stays are 5mm, with a 4mm lightweight option. AFAIK, most stays 
for metal fenders are also 5mm, e.g. Velo Orange, Gilles Berthoud.

https://ridepdw.com/collections/fenders/products/full-metal-fenders-safety-tabs

Blue Heron Bicycles in Westbrae (Berkeley) is a PDW dealer, and the safety 
tabs are only $9 list; I suppose I could experiment, as long as it's an 
impulse purchase. Alternately, you could replace the Honjo/VO/GB stays with 
PDW's stays, but bigger stays/eyelets (which PDW does not sell; they use a 
different/cheaper mounting system) would take away much of the Honjo/VO 
textured elegance.

I'm concerned that if you use an undersized stay in the QR, it either won't 
grip the stay enough to stay in place to begin with, or it'll rattle. If 
you build up the rail to fill the gap, will it still release from the QR 
when necessary?

Peter "comfort? safety? style? hmmm" Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:12:25 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I think Riv’s objection to metal is in regards to safety. No metal fender 
> comes with breakaway tabs. The SKS have breakaway tabs for the front wheel, 
> BUT Portland Design Works makes breakaways for metal fenders, which answers 
> the safety question. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Peter Adler]

*Hey!* That's triggering language...

Peter "59 next week; I better finish up that 50s French racer with the 
suicide shifter" Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too.
>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Patch T]

Eric, I've gone through a lot since I've posted.

The Outershell bag couldn't adapt well to random large loads, I sold it. 
Maybe a little too technical for my needs. Also, off-bike, it looked odd 
hanging from my person. And was too similar to my rando bag, a 
characteristic I thought I would enjoy more.

Riv's Shopsack gets used the most. Alas, no outer pockets, but this I 
remedy with stem bags/caddies. I wish mine had an internal pocket. And a 
shoulder strap, or longer handles.

I used a North St duffel; also doesn't expand, I kept running out of room. 
Great for the daily commute or gym run, but without the stop at the market.

I currently have a Porcelain Rocket Meanwhile 
, and love it's simplicity 
and weather-proofedness, as well as it's HUGE volume potential, and ease of 
cinching down. But no shoulder-capable straps, or internal/external 
pockets. Small handles. So close! 

If someone would buy my Porcelain Rocket bag, I would get one of these  
from 
Hungry. I think it's perfect for me. (I've said that before) Does someone 
want to buy my Porcelain Rocket bag? It's in great condition! 

I have yet to try the Sugarloaf. I worry it isn't roomy enough.

Still looking for the perfect basket bag in BK/NY,
Patch


On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:55:29 PM UTC-4 ericyue...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Putting a 137 on my new Sam Hillborne build so am in the market for a bag 
> to go into it.  This thread was useful, but I know there are a lot more 
> options now so I figured I'd see if folks have any other recommendations.  
> I have pretty much the same criteria as the OP.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
> On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 10:03:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ana! You're absolutely right, and I've been using a basket with 
>> net and various tote bags for years. Simply looking to up the basket's 
>> efficiency considering the growing number of basket-specific bags in 
>> production out there. 
>>
>> And honestly, I wouldn't mind at all if I didn't have to untangle another 
>> basket net ever again!
>>
>>
>>
>> I still haven't decided y'all. Torn between minimalism and non. It's an 
>> identity crisis of sorts.
>>
>> Patch
>> BK/NY
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch]

That would be nice...

Sent from ProtonMail for iOS

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 6:34 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> $900 for a frameset (unprepped), which isn't a guarantee of pricing on the 
> TIGPlat. Guaranteed cheaper.
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:00:24 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>> How much is a Clem?
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Like a Clem. TIG-welded instead of lugs, it should be a really cool Platy 
>>> design for Clem money.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 I wonder what on a budget means?

 Sent from ProtonMail for iOS

 On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:20 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
  wrote:

> [08DD9FD1-5A7C-41FD-9BDD-723C8EEB43D0.png]From Riv’s Instagram today:
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Yeah -- if Universal has the parts you want in stock for your wheels, 
>> they get them to you scary fast for custom wheels. The three pairs I 
>> have had from them were all built incredibly well.
>>
>> 60cm still in stock. Really considering it for myself still. Just bought 
>> deck lumber yesterday however and that cost about as much as a Platy 
>> complete would. I've told myself if there is a 60cm come Monday, I can 
>> do it.
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>>> I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from 
>>> Universal Cycles. They were in stock and and my custom spec order took 
>>> about a week to lace up and ship to me.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
 On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F  wrote:
>>>
 I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way!
>>>
 Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the 
 frame on ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those 
 sooner! I'll do a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, 
 I'm excited to see what people who aren't named Leah have to say about 
 the bike, though I can confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull the 
 trigger.
 On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to 
> blame for the shortage? Double-edged sword...
>
> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it 
> could sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. 
> Let’s hope another batch is in the works.
>
> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they were 
> making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not lost!
>
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
>> 
>
>> Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed 
>> at 12:05. And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were 
>> a direct result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!
>>>
>>> I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if 
>>> their server might melt down today and he said something to the 
>>> effect of: ‘Yeah, probably.’
>>>
>>> 8^}
>>>
>>> David
>>>
 On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>>
 
 Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the 
 enthusiasm for this bike?

 dougP

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a bike 
> selling this quickly?
>
>>
>
>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth  
>> wrote:
>
>> That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment
>>
>> 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
>> 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
>> 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
>> 3:07 55cm lime olive sold out
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 
>> upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing. I wanted the 
>>> MERMAID but it auto purchased the Lime/Olive. We'll see what 
>>> happens. I clicked as fast as I could on the dot!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

It’s beautiful. I’m sure there’s a big smile under that mask. I’m looking 
forward to hear of her ride experience , if she would indulge us. I’m sure 
mine is at least a month out, perhaps two months. Welcome #RivSister. 
On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 7:19:22 PM UTC-4 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Made a special trip to Walnut Creek today :)
>
> [image: Plat.JPG]
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:34:48 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> $900 for a frameset (unprepped), which isn't a guarantee of pricing on 
>> the TIGPlat. Guaranteed cheaper. 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 3:00:24 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> How much is a Clem? 
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:11 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Like a Clem. TIG-welded instead of lugs, it should be a really cool 
>>> Platy design for Clem money. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>>

 I wonder what on a budget means?

 Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


 On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:20 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 [image: 08DD9FD1-5A7C-41FD-9BDD-723C8EEB43D0.png]From Riv’s Instagram 
 today:


 On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> Yeah -- if Universal has the parts you want in stock for your wheels, 
> they get them to you scary fast for custom wheels. The three pairs I have 
> had from them were all built incredibly well. 
>
> 60cm still in stock. Really considering it for myself still. Just 
> bought deck lumber yesterday however and that cost about as much as a 
> Platy 
> complete would. I've told myself if there is a 60cm come Monday, I can do 
> it. 
>
> Jonathan P. 
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> I ordered wheels with Velocity A23 rims for my Rivendell Road from 
>> Universal Cycles.  They were in stock and and my custom spec order took 
>> about a week to lace up and ship to me.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:18 AM, Nathan F  wrote:
>>
>> I've got a 55 in the Lime-Olive headed my way! 
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately my rims are ~8 weeks out, which'll mean putting the 
>> frame on ice for a bit until they come in. Sure wish I ordered those 
>> sooner! I'll do a full build post once I'm all done. In the meantime, 
>> I'm 
>> excited to see what people who aren't named Leah have to say about the 
>> bike, though I can confirm her enthusiasm helped me pull the trigger.
>> On Thursday, 1 April 2021 at 19:20:49 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lol, you guys. A high compliment. But does this mean I’m also to 
>>> blame for the shortage? Double-edged sword...
>>>
>>> It’s a great bike. A bike that is so beautiful and so smart that it 
>>> could sell itself. Congratulations, Rivendell! You have a winner. Let’s 
>>> hope another batch is in the works. 
>>>
>>> Anyone else remembering that Rivendell had Platy forks that they 
>>> were making into a Rosco model identical to the Platys? Hope is not 
>>> lost! 
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:02 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Haha, I was half-surprised when I found the website had not crashed 
>>> at 12:05.  And I would put a bet that at least 10% of the sales were a 
>>> direct result of Leah's enthusiasm for the bike!  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:45 PM David Lipsky  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Not a bit, nooo! She’s too busy grinding out miles with hers!

 I picked up a small order at RBWHQ yesterday and asked Will if 
 their server might melt down today and he said something to the effect 
 of: 
 ‘Yeah, probably.’

 8^}

 David

 On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:22 PM, dougP  wrote:

 
 Could Bicycle Belle Ding Ding have anything to do with the 
 enthusiasm for this bike?  

 dougP

 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Have we ever seen anything like this? Does anyone remember a bike 
> selling this quickly?
>
> On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:22 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> That was pretty nuts. 60s remain at the moment 
>
> 3:01 50cm mermaids sold out
> 3:03 50cm lime olive sold out
> 3:05 55cm mermaid sold out
> 3:07 55cm lime olive sold out 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:15:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the 
>> MERMAID but it auto purchased the Li