[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Project Mercury Astronaut Bridge Tour

[Mike Godwin]

Hi Gary.

I wish my mom were still alive, I could ask her if we stayed in the same 
hotel waiting for base housing. Is the hotel still standing?  Dang worth a 
trip for all the sights and rides. 

Mike SLO CA

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 5:47:40 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:

> Really cool ride with bike to match... 
>
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:46:51 AM UTC-7 Robb wrote:
>
>> Yesterday was the League of American Bicyclists (LAB)'s National Ride A 
>> Bike Day, so I previewed the Project Mercury Astronaut Bridge Ride, which I 
>> lead annually on the Sunday closest to the Apollo 11 lunar landing 
>> anniversary. While we think of Houston (i.e "Houston .. the Eagle has 
>> landed"), the American human spaceflight program started with Project 
>> Mercury at NASA Langley Research Center in Hampton. Hampton City honored 
>> the project by naming our main street "Mercury Boulevard" and the road 
>> leading to the NASA campus "Commander Shepard Boulevard". The remaining six 
>> Mercury Astronauts have bridges named after them. The 18 mile ride begins 
>> and ends at Air Power Park which displays one of the Mercury capsules used 
>> during training and testing. The ride begins and ends on the 2 1/4 mile 
>> linear trail Hampton Waterwalk. It was a very nice day to ride my Atlantis. 
>> Usually ride the Clem L for errands and Gus Boots on the local trails. 
>> Normally the Atlantis on multi-day tours or sub-24 overnighters (S24O) so 
>> this was a treat.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Ok, Philip that was an hour ago, so by now you’ve built it and surely must be 
posing it for the photos you’re about to send us, yes? You’ll ride it to work 
tomorrow, certainly.

Roberta and I were talking and she mentioned that the Bike Snob has a new 
mystery bike showing up on Monday. We think it’s a Platypus. 

My own Platy is in the shop getting a new Edelux light (mine was faulty) and I 
won’t have it until Sunday. I’ll be delighted to look at your bikes here, if 
you would kindly grace us with your photos. ♥️

Sent from my iPad

> On May 6, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
> Well hello there, nice to meet you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 6:48:19 AM UTC-5 Philip Barrett wrote:
>> UPS has updated the delivery to today, unless I've forgotten a part I should 
>> be out & about for the weekend.
>> 
>> Tha mi cho toilichte!
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Philip - YAY Oh maybe you will get it in time for the weekend!
>>> 
>>> I’m anxious to hear of the Platys that have surely been landing on 
>>> doorsteps around America. Anyone else want to delight us with your words 
>>> and photos?
>>> 
>>> So happy for you!
>>> Leah
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On May 3, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
> 
 Got a wee note from UPS today! 
>>> 
 
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>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 1:53:18 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>> 
>> I like looping it around the drive side of the seatpost in this 
>> situation - kind of enlarges the radius of the bend while keeping it 
>> close to the seatpost and frame. Use the longest hanger you can find - 
>> Surly makes a long one.
>> 
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:38:50 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>> Nathan,
>>> I'm going with canti brakes. I should be running the housing/cables 
>>> tonight or tomorrow.  I have a set of Velo Orange Zeste cantis that 
>>> I've been holding on to. The issue with the rear setup is to have the 
>>> housing loop up so it touches the seatpost, I think.  Otherwise you'll 
>>> have the housing contacting the seatpost lug. I'm not sure how it will 
>>> look, but that's how I saw one another person set it up (Blue Lug?).  I 
>>> don't like how Crust did it as it will rub the paint off of the lug 
>>> (see their $3800 Platy).  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'll share photos when I get them set up.
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:44 PM Nathan F  wrote:
 It's been nice seeing everyone get their frames, both here and on 
 Instagram. Lots of great builds so far and plenty of inspiration for 
 how I'll route the rear cantilever on mine. Seems I'm not the only one 
 who wanted to use cantis!
 
 Yesterday the front rack came in for mine... now all that's left are 
 the rims and frameset! Pending any further delays, I should be riding 
 my Platypus in about 5 weeks or so.
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville Sacks are a good deal

[Pam Bikes]

I got some grey back a bike bags.  The bungee is hard to do on a large 
rack/wheelsize but doable on my 26 in wheel w/rack.  I still had to pull 
hard to cinch the buckle.  It's easy to take off but harder to put on.  
Bags are great.  They swallow so much stuff!

On Saturday, May 1, 2021 at 5:29:58 AM UTC-4 Howard Ramsay wrote:

> There are ROYAL Sackville Backabike bags available now.  Spencer said in 
> his email of 04/26, "Yes, hope to have some olive backabike bags in about 
> 4-6 weeks."[image: Back o Backabike Bag.jpg][image: Will Rack.jpg]
> The back of the Backabike Bags are being modified with bungee cord and a 
> hook. Will Keating is using a prototype TIG welded rear rack from Taiwan.
> " The rear rack is a sample of one we'll hopefully have in stock later 
> this year. It's like the Nittos, but tig welded instead of brazed and a lot 
> more affordable." - Will
> All the best,
> Howard.
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 1:45:17 PM UTC-6 bjmi...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I love all the small hand-made bag companies in this thread! I still 
>> would rather get Sackville, personally, but they're all very nice.
>>
>> In a perfect world, Artifact Bags (right here in Omaha!) would make 
>> bicycle bags, but I've e-mailed and asked in person and am always told, 
>> "no." Oh well. 
>>
>> Ben 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 1:05:24 PM UTC-6 chase@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just wanted to throw into the mix, that I recently had a beautiful 
>>> custom saddlebag made by Waxwing in Vermont. www.waxwingbagco.com
>>> Everything about the experience was awesome and the bag came out great!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 11:53:27 AM UTC-5 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Huh...I got a different response from Spencer, but I think you can put 
 his together with Will's and see what's happening.

 Spencer told me, and I paraphrase, I don't have an answer because it 
 could be a month, it could be three months. He was very polite, 
 though...hard to capture that in my paraphrase.

 Ben "not going to buy panniers from Swift...probably not...maybe..." in 
 Omaha 

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 6:45 AM Howard Ramsay  wrote:

> I asked this week. Reply here ->  Hi Howard,
>
> We're waiting on a rear rack to be developed that will determine how 
> the bags attach. We're working on 'em!
> -will
>
> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 2:14:24 PM UTC-6 Gary L wrote:
>
>> I love sackvilles too, and they are a spectacular deal, but if you 
>> want to go all in on handmade bags, check out Fogg bags. They are made 
>> by a 
>> great couple in southern France. I have one and it is exquisite.
>> https://www.foggspecialistbags.com/
>>
>> And I too am waiting for the backabikes to be back in stock.
>>
>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 11:43:24 AM UTC-5 Berkeleyan wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed, I've carried my Scotch, as well as my beer, in a grid-grey 
>>> Sackville bag, and enjoyed both the riding and the imbibing. And my 
>>> Scottish friends all agree.
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 7:23:30 AM UTC-8 Edwin W wrote:
>>>
 Especially when you compare them to some alternatives, like this 
 $745 Scotch bag!
 https://www.westleyrichards.com/us/scotch-bag-in-forest-green

 Enjoying flat, grabby, and jumbo grabby sacks,

 Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Clem Smith Jr. = N+Zero

[Pam Bikes]

Congrats on the bike!  Great set up.  You will need more gearing and a rack 
someday b/c you are going to love it so much you'll want to ride it 
everywhere.  Rivs ride so well.  Start saving up for the fenders, rack, 
front derailleur and another chainring.  I started out riding my Betty 
about 3000 miles a year then somehow kept riding and now ride it twice as 
much every year - sometimes more.  I'm N+zero too.  My Betty is so great!

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 12:17:07 PM UTC-4 Jim Whorton wrote:

> Really nice!  I have pretty much the same bike, very similar setup.  The 
> stoker nubs look useful.  I use that hand position most of the time, at the 
> top of that bend in the bars.
>
> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 10:44:44 AM UTC-4 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
>> Great news!   Great build! Enjoy!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Brendan Willard
>> Owner/Winemaker
>> Phantômé Cellars
>>
>> phantomecellars.com 
>>
>> Speaking in Thumbs 👍
>>
>> On May 4, 2021, at 4:12 AM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
>> martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Built up this new-to-me 59 Clem H slowly over the past couple months and 
>> it's convincing me I really don't need or want anything else. At 65, I've 
>> been looking for my "last" bike project, and I truly think I can check that 
>> box before serious downsizing happens. 
>>
>>
>> The bike fits, rides and looks exactly as it should, and although I 
>> suspect I'll have fun with little mods in the coming years, it's just right 
>> in every way from the get go. One thing I may play with is the gearing - 
>> it's set up as a 1X7 now and I like the range even though most of my riding 
>> will be flat rail-trail stuff that really only requires one or two gears - 
>> maybe three.  
>>
>> I'm using a single Rivendell thumb shifter in no-mans land on the Bosco 
>> bars and it's a good place for it to be. The added stoker nubs are a must 
>> have on these bars. I find myself using that position about half the time. 
>> Might raise the saddle a bit, but I like being able to put (most of) my 
>> foot down without doing a ballerina move. 
>>
>> A rear rack is being considered, but I won't need anything too 
>> substantial if at all. I have a couple bag options to think about too. 
>> Fenders? Probably not, but there's plenty of room. Gratuitous garage pic 
>> for now, but more to come from the wild. 
>>
>> Marty 
>> Stewartstown, Pennsylvania
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> TA Zephyr crankset with TA AXIX BB - 36T with All City 44T guard
>> Velocity Dyad rims with Big Ben tires 
>> 40 hole XT rear hub - 36 hole Suntour XC9000 front hub - Paul skewers
>> Shimano XT rear derailer
>> Brooks B67 saddle
>> Nitto technomic stem with Bosco bars - WTB ergo grips - Nitto plugs - Dia 
>> Compe nubs
>> Shimano XT V-brakes with Cane Creek Direct Curve levers
>> MKS Grip King pedals
>> King Cage with Rivendell bottle
>> Spurcycle bell
>> Cateye rear light on Paul Gino mount
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pseudo-Rivendell Thread?

[Philip Barrett]

Talking of calipers...with these types of conversions the measuring kind 
are your BFF. You don't need to spend a lot of money but being able to 
accurately measure spacings and widths makes all this a lot easier and math 
is cheaper than buying parts that don't fit. Digitals are best as you can 
switch between metric & old school with the press of a button. The set I 
use are these, all of $24 worth, probably not as accurate as they could be 
but we're building bikes here not centrifuges -

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000GSLKIW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 7:28:56 PM UTC-5 Philip Barrett wrote:

> Thanks! Amazing how the early 80's (just pre-dayglo) grays are all the 
> rage again eh? That Univega looks lovely and I think you'll be fine with a 
> 650b around 28-32mm, remember you'll need the Tektro R559 calipers to reach 
> the rims though. You'll love the ride I guarantee it!
>
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 6:03:28 PM UTC-5 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> And those are awesome too Patrick!
>> I see cranks I don't know, lots o tire volume, and what a light mount!
>>
>> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 4:00:01 PM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry Shawn! :)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 3:00:17 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I've owned 5 Rivendells and still own 1. These other 2 bikes are 
 Rivendell influenced and perhaps even Grant Peterseon inspired.

>>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Brooks B68

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Sam, I've tried to reach out but haven't heard back. 
Please send PM if interested.

-Jeff

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 5:53:50 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:

> Interested !
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 6, 2021, at 3:53 PM, jeffbog...@hotmail.com  
> wrote:
>
> Black with imperial cutout, mint condition with factory lacing as 
> pictured - $125 
>
> Jeff (Alabama)
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Project Mercury Astronaut Bridge Tour

[Kushan]

Really cool ride with bike to match... 

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:46:51 AM UTC-7 Robb wrote:

> Yesterday was the League of American Bicyclists (LAB)'s National Ride A 
> Bike Day, so I previewed the Project Mercury Astronaut Bridge Ride, which I 
> lead annually on the Sunday closest to the Apollo 11 lunar landing 
> anniversary. While we think of Houston (i.e "Houston .. the Eagle has 
> landed"), the American human spaceflight program started with Project 
> Mercury at NASA Langley Research Center in Hampton. Hampton City honored 
> the project by naming our main street "Mercury Boulevard" and the road 
> leading to the NASA campus "Commander Shepard Boulevard". The remaining six 
> Mercury Astronauts have bridges named after them. The 18 mile ride begins 
> and ends at Air Power Park which displays one of the Mercury capsules used 
> during training and testing. The ride begins and ends on the 2 1/4 mile 
> linear trail Hampton Waterwalk. It was a very nice day to ride my Atlantis. 
> Usually ride the Clem L for errands and Gus Boots on the local trails. 
> Normally the Atlantis on multi-day tours or sub-24 overnighters (S24O) so 
> this was a treat.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pseudo-Rivendell Thread?

[Philip Barrett]

Thanks! Amazing how the early 80's (just pre-dayglo) grays are all the rage 
again eh? That Univega looks lovely and I think you'll be fine with a 650b 
around 28-32mm, remember you'll need the Tektro R559 calipers to reach the 
rims though. You'll love the ride I guarantee it!

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 6:03:28 PM UTC-5 Matthew P wrote:

> And those are awesome too Patrick!
> I see cranks I don't know, lots o tire volume, and what a light mount!
>
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 4:00:01 PM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> Sorry Shawn! :)
>>
>> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 3:00:17 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I've owned 5 Rivendells and still own 1. These other 2 bikes are 
>>> Rivendell influenced and perhaps even Grant Peterseon inspired.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Project Mercury Astronaut Bridge Tour

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I gotta do that ride too. Mike, I lived in Cocoa Beach back then and my dad 
ran the Starlite Motel where the Mercury astronauts stayed. He got to be 
good friends with them and they would come to the house showing off their 
new corvettes. It was amazing for a little kid like me.

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 1:02:51 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:

> I gotta do that ride. My dad was accepted into the astronaut program in 
> 1957. I spent the first 3 years of life at Cape Canaveral and lived at air 
> force bases with really fast aircraft.  So cool.  Not bike related, but 
> check out this out with astronauts getting Corvettes  Why America's first 
> astronauts all drove Corvettes (jalopnik.com) 
> 
>   
> I can't find the original article, I think it was in Smithsonian Air and 
> Space periodical or AOPA magazine. Here it is i think  My Other Ride Is a 
> Spaceship | Space | Air & Space Magazine (airspacemag.com) 
> 
>   
> My dad did not make the final cut, so no Corvette. 
>
> Mike SLO CA  
>
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:46:51 AM UTC-7 Robb wrote:
>
>> Yesterday was the League of American Bicyclists (LAB)'s National Ride A 
>> Bike Day, so I previewed the Project Mercury Astronaut Bridge Ride, which I 
>> lead annually on the Sunday closest to the Apollo 11 lunar landing 
>> anniversary. While we think of Houston (i.e "Houston .. the Eagle has 
>> landed"), the American human spaceflight program started with Project 
>> Mercury at NASA Langley Research Center in Hampton. Hampton City honored 
>> the project by naming our main street "Mercury Boulevard" and the road 
>> leading to the NASA campus "Commander Shepard Boulevard". The remaining six 
>> Mercury Astronauts have bridges named after them. The 18 mile ride begins 
>> and ends at Air Power Park which displays one of the Mercury capsules used 
>> during training and testing. The ride begins and ends on the 2 1/4 mile 
>> linear trail Hampton Waterwalk. It was a very nice day to ride my Atlantis. 
>> Usually ride the Clem L for errands and Gus Boots on the local trails. 
>> Normally the Atlantis on multi-day tours or sub-24 overnighters (S24O) so 
>> this was a treat.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pseudo-Rivendell Thread?

[Matthew P]

And those are awesome too Patrick!
I see cranks I don't know, lots o tire volume, and what a light mount!

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 4:00:01 PM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:

> Sorry Shawn! :)
>
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 3:00:17 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I've owned 5 Rivendells and still own 1. These other 2 bikes are 
>> Rivendell influenced and perhaps even Grant Peterseon inspired.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pseudo-Rivendell Thread?

[Matthew P]

Sorry Shawn! :)

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 3:00:17 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I've owned 5 Rivendells and still own 1. These other 2 bikes are Rivendell 
> influenced and perhaps even Grant Peterseon inspired.
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Re: [RBW] FS: Brooks B68

[sam . perez . 2002]

Interested !

Sent from my iPhone

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> Black with imperial cutout, mint condition with factory lacing as pictured - 
> $125 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Good rides in Ft. Worth in Mira Vista / Oakmont Park area

[Patrick Moore]

D'oh, as Homer so eloquently says. I found the route to Gateway Park via
Bellario; the turn to the Trinity Trail is by the Trinity Chapel Bible
Church. Must try this tomorrow. Again, wish I'd brought the gofast fixed
gear.

Still, observations on local riding will be not only entertained but
welcomed.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 4:27 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I had a good if short ride today from friend's house in the Mira Vista
> development -- No a half mile to Bellario, then W to Oakmont Park, around
> and about the park, and W on the river trail, which tho' pleasant has
> trails to narrow, winding, and crowded for more than very slow riding, then
> back to Bellario W until it looked as if it would no longer be pleasant,
> then back E on Bellario to the park again, back to the River trail past the
> parking lot and road to another path that petered out at an intersection,
> back home, 16.5 miles.
>
> I'd like to extend my ride tomorrow, and another cyclist I waylaid to
> inquire recommended:
>
> Gateway Park. I can't seem to get Maps to show me how to get there from
> Mira Vista.
>
> A trail South (?) off Bellario past a church with a flag (?) that "will
> take you almost all the way to Ft. Worth."
>
> I realize that these descriptions are very vague, but can anyone shed more
> light on them? Again, my start will be basically Bryant Irvin and Mira
> Vista.
>
> I brought the Matthews RBFD thinking it would give me the option of some
> firmer dirt, but I think a road bike might have been been the better
> choice. Still, I discovered that the wonky cornering along the tight
> corners of the Oakmont/Trinity River trail was due to misreading the front
> tire's pressure, which was 15 psi instead of the planned 22 psi. Corrected.
>
> Anyway, very pleasant weather, low 80s and modest humidity, and the
> terrain is my favorite: rolling, some steep climbs, but none more than a
> mile long. Should have brought the fixed gear. But the Matthews really does
> climb well for its bulk.
>
> Thanks for any pointers.
>
> Patrick Moore, presently in Ft. Worth, TX.
>
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[RBW] Good rides in Ft. Worth in Mira Vista / Oakmont Park area

[Patrick Moore]

I had a good if short ride today from friend's house in the Mira Vista
development -- No a half mile to Bellario, then W to Oakmont Park, around
and about the park, and W on the river trail, which tho' pleasant has
trails to narrow, winding, and crowded for more than very slow riding, then
back to Bellario W until it looked as if it would no longer be pleasant,
then back E on Bellario to the park again, back to the River trail past the
parking lot and road to another path that petered out at an intersection,
back home, 16.5 miles.

I'd like to extend my ride tomorrow, and another cyclist I waylaid to
inquire recommended:

Gateway Park. I can't seem to get Maps to show me how to get there from
Mira Vista.

A trail South (?) off Bellario past a church with a flag (?) that "will
take you almost all the way to Ft. Worth."

I realize that these descriptions are very vague, but can anyone shed more
light on them? Again, my start will be basically Bryant Irvin and Mira
Vista.

I brought the Matthews RBFD thinking it would give me the option of some
firmer dirt, but I think a road bike might have been been the better
choice. Still, I discovered that the wonky cornering along the tight
corners of the Oakmont/Trinity River trail was due to misreading the front
tire's pressure, which was 15 psi instead of the planned 22 psi. Corrected.

Anyway, very pleasant weather, low 80s and modest humidity, and the terrain
is my favorite: rolling, some steep climbs, but none more than a mile long.
Should have brought the fixed gear. But the Matthews really does climb well
for its bulk.

Thanks for any pointers.

Patrick Moore, presently in Ft. Worth, TX.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 1993 62cm Bridgestone RB-1 $1000

[Andrew Turner]

PM sent!

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 10:47:03 AM UTC-5 foolis...@gmail.com wrote:

> Gorgeous! I'm in Nashville and wishing this was my size.
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 4:38 PM RichS  wrote:
>
>> Great looking bike and I like your use of vinyl albums for the 
>> background:-) Good luck with the sale.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:30:18 PM UTC-4 exliontamer wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all. Looking for a local-ish sale on this. The build is pretty Riv'd 
>>> out. Everything in the picture is included outside of the bottle cages and 
>>> Brooks. I'll throw in a Selle Italia Titanium Flite if you like. Fresh & 
>>> lightly shellaced bar tape. Here's a list of parts I think are of note.
>>> *Velocity Synergy wheel set(Suntour XC 9000 fh/Shimano Ultegra rh) 
>>> w/wide range 8 speed cassette
>>> *New-ish Rivendell Roly Poly front and Ruffy Tuffy back tires
>>> *Shimano Claris rd/Shimano 600 tricolor fd
>>> *Shimano 8 speed bar ends dialed in perfectly for indexing but 
>>> switchable to friction
>>> *44cm Nitto Mark's Bar/Shimano BR-4000 levers/Nitto Technomic Tallux Stem
>>> *Sugino Compact Double Crankset w/MKS Lambda pedals
>>> *Shimano 600 Tricolor Brakes with a 2 sets of NOS pads
>>> It's easily the best feeling fast bike I've ever owned but it's time to 
>>> let it go. $1000 even.
>>>
>>> I'm happy to work out shipping so long as the buyer is willing to cover 
>>> all costs. I'll post some more pics of it in the sun tomorrow. Thanks
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[JRStern11 via RBW Owners Bunch]

Good to hear Jim. If anything happened to my Bleriot that the AHH would be on 
the top of my list.

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On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 11:55 AM, Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:

> Been reaping the benefits of the "Each bike you have increases exponentially 
> the possibility that none of them will work..." rule. That had me riding 
> other bikes to break down the cruft of too much storage and not enough 
> mileage. Worked my way over to the Hilsen, and after a tube replacement, 
> rolled out on an errand loop. Every time I ride it, I realize how good it 
> feels to do so.
> Comfortable. Balanced. Responsive. It just loves to run. Thanks, G.P.!
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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[David Hays]

Beautiful bike JG.

David

> On May 3, 2021, at 3:01 PM, J G  wrote:
> 
> First Riv, picked up here. Bleriot prototype. 
> 
> <6A3AE6F8-1E29-40F9-BB91-AF120F336231_1_105_c.jpeg>
> 
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 4:46:30 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
> I know my limit on my Bleriot is 42cm and I thought it was due to the 
> sidepull brakes.  Obviously my thoughts were wrong.  Enjoy those nice wide 
> tires.  
> 
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> 
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 3:43 PM, 'Je Mar' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  > wrote:
>> Just got the new Shikoros (x48) on the Chev - they actually fit under the 
>> SKS fenders but with all the spring debris around, I thought it was just a 
>> bit risky.  But, man, are they sweet!
>> Jeff in Arlington, VA
>> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:55:23 AM UTC-4 Justin Drake wrote:
>> The Rivbike that started the thread is still riding along. I was lucky 
>> enough to pick this up from Adam Liebow in early pandemic times and have it 
>> built out for long days on rough roads and absolutely love how capable it 
>> is. 
>> 
>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 7:52:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>> Beautiful bike.  
>> 
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
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>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 3:56 PM, Joe P > wrote:
>>> Hi everyone, this thread always brings enjoyment. 
>>> Wanted to share this one of a Sam from the recent batch on a rare cloudy 
>>> Los Angeles day
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 3:24:33 AM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>>> It's that 'diagatube' that often draws the puzzled looks from curious 
>>> onlookers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 4:29:13 AM UTC+9 Adam Leibow wrote:
>>> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your 
>>> rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. i love 
>>> lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: Which bottom bracket to get?

[David Person]

My experience was that my Hillborne came with a Tange 107mm bb and when it 
went bad I replaced it with a 107mm Shimano UN300 bb, or at least tried to 
replace it, but the inner chainring hit the chainstay when I installed the 
crankset.  So I bought a UN300 in 110mm length, thinking I would get 1.5mm 
on the drive side and the chainring would clear the chainstay.  Nope, had 
to go with 113mm in order to get any add'l spindle on the drive side.  So 
for me, it wasn't so much an issue of nailing the chainline, but of getting 
the chainring to not hit the chainstay.


On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:45:53 AM UTC-7 johnsen...@gmail.com wrote:

> ah, i see it in your case.
> i bought wider ones  [122 and 127] where the difference was shared on both 
> ends.
> are these measurements shared by other bb makers? i mean,  is there a 
> standard?
> also, isn't this a bit fussy, do a few extra mm cause real trouble? that's 
> an actual question.
> i have little experience to offer.
>
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 12:02:49 PM UTC-4 David Person wrote:
>
>> The table confirms my experience with the Shimano BB's I bought.  The 
>> 68mm BB shell width ones with a spindle width of 107, 109 and 111 all have 
>> the same length spindle exposed on the right side (20.5mm) with the length 
>> of the left side spindle receiving the added length from 18.5 to 20.5 to 
>> 22.5mm.
>>
>> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 7:56:16 AM UTC-7 johnsen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> i bought two bb's from tange recently of different spindle length. in 
>>> this case, the added length *was* shared on L and R sides.
>>> the last page of this doc shows relevant measurements:
>>>
>>> https://m.tangeseiki.com/jm/images/com_aedes/tangeseiki/tangeseiki-2017.pdf
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 2:03:07 PM UTC-4 David Person wrote:
>>>
 I had to learn from trial and error what Nick pointed out above.  a 
 107mm BB was just a bit too short on the drive side for my bike, so I 
 bought a 110mm only to find out the extra 3mm was on the non-drive side of 
 the spindle.  Had to buy a 113mm, which added 3mm to the drive side 
 spindle 
 vs the 110mm.  At the time I did not have any luck finding 1.5mm BB 
 spacers 
 to split the difference on the 110mm to make it work.


 On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 10:42:30 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> You're right. I always forget that. 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 2:28:05 AM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> AFAIK, the 107 and 110 will give the same chainline - the extra 3mm 
>> is all on the non-drive side.
>>
>> Nick
>>
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[RBW] Re: Pseudo-Rivendell Thread?

[Matthew P]

Clayton,

Kudos on the bike and post. I followed this thread but didn't participate 
for years because I didn't own a Rivendell.
I think it was a combination of reading the rules multiple times and then 
seeing how welcoming everyone was that I finally believed that I didn't 
have to own a Rivendell to participate.
That and the fact that I started buying stuff from the forum but knew, from 
the rules, that this should not be a marketplace; that is not the focus; 
its a community (I hope I didn't screw that up).
Part of me wishes I had just bought a Rivendell much earlier. My parents 
ingrained a strong...thriftiness (but not necessarily in all my siblings! 
:-p). Humble salary, humble bike, makes sense to me. So part of me also 
thinks I should just ride '80's-'90's steel/rigid StumpJumpers and the 
like. Still in line with the Rivendell ethos! (I'll reference a Rivendell 
Reader on that). In that sense, your pseudo Rivendell bike is not a 
Rivendell (bike) but is Rivendell (in aproach). 

I'm building up an Atlantis...kind of. Been lagging / work. I'll see if I 
still want to ride my ~'84 StumpJumper once the Atlantis is complete!

Check out the iBoB forum: https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob too. 
Lots of overlap but also great.

Nice bike.
-Matthew
San Diego, on Kumeyaay land, where yesterday we called attention to missing 
and murdered indigenous women (MMIW)


On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:45:57 AM UTC-7 Clayton Stahnke wrote:

> I've been an admiring (lurking?) member of this group for a few months now 
> and I've really wanted to post something for a while...but I don't have any 
> Rivendell frames (yet!). 
>
> However, many of my builds are heavily Rivendell-inspired and I figured I 
> would share my latest project here with you all. The bike in question is a 
> 1987 Bridgestone 550 (53cm), so it's not too far off from a Rivendell ;)
>
> I purchased this bike off CL last summer as an impulse buy--I needed a new 
> project and the price point was just right for me. It was pretty much 
> entirely stock with only a few paint chips--I'd call this color "Blue 
> Sharpie" since most of the paint chips were inconspicuously filled in with 
> blue sharpie ink. I threw some bones at it to make it into a zippy 
> singlespeed, but it sat in the garage for most of its initial revival since 
> the 700cx25 wheelset was a bit too harsh for my tastes. 
>
> Fast forward to last month, I was able to secure a sturdy 650b wheelset 
> (Thanks, David B!) and I took a stab at converting this beauty into a 
> "Track-lo-neur" of sorts. The photo below is the finished product and boy 
> howdy, what a world of a difference the wheelset makes for this bike. I 
> usually ride an Atlantis-ified Diamondback Apex around town, but this 
> Homebrew Saluki makes me feel like I'm back in my college days riding 
> around campus again.  
>
> Any other Rivendell wannabes out there? I'd love to hear about your 
> inspired builds!
>
> -Clayton
>
> [image: IMG_1440.JPG]
>
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[RBW] Re: Converting 650b Hilsen to Rene Herse 42/26 cranks

[ascpgh]

I built my Coast rando last year with a RH 46/30 crankset. I'm above you by 
four teeth on each but the diameter is close and the distance from the seat 
tube is too. 

I provided my mechanic some my FDs  to compare with their shop stock to 
find the one with best fit and function. The winner of all of these was my 
old SunTour Superbe Pro. Nice flat side plates, fairly short cage and its 
radius follows the big ring radius well enough. 

I have had nice results with SunTour MTB FDs on lots of my bikes with 
double triple and compact double cranks. A $5 favorite is the X-1. The one 
on my commuter for ten years of year round glop exposure.


Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 3:53:47 PM UTC-4 Doug Williams wrote:

> I have a 58cm 650b A. Homer Hilsen that I purchased from Riv in 2014. I 
> have been loving it ever since! It has the Sugino Triple Crank 46-36-24 and 
> I run it all friction shifting with bar end silvers, 8 speed with a 11-32 
> cassette. The front derailer is Shimano Claris Triple. The bottom bracket 
> is  bbc110.
>
> So...I'm getting older and I notice I don't use the 46 ring much, at least 
> not with the higher gears in the back. I am definitely an "UnRacer" anyway. 
> I am thinking of getting the Rene Herse double cranks with 42-26 rings. If 
> I go with the 8 speed megarange 11-34 cassette in the back, I would give up 
> almost nothing in the lower gears and lose just some high gears that I 
> rarely use anyway. So two questions:
>
> 1. Is my bottom bracket compatible with the Rene Herse cranks? I think so, 
> but I'm not sure. Would now be a good time to replace it anyway?
>
> 2. Should I just keep my Claris triple FD and crank in the limit screw or 
> go with something like the Shimano CX70 or some other double FD that works 
> well with compact 42-26 rings?
>
> Any other comments or suggestions would be welcome.
>
> Doug
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Project Mercury Astronaut Bridge Tour

[Mike Godwin]

I gotta do that ride. My dad was accepted into the astronaut program in 
1957. I spent the first 3 years of life at Cape Canaveral and lived at air 
force bases with really fast aircraft.  So cool.  Not bike related, but 
check out this out with astronauts getting Corvettes  Why America's first 
astronauts all drove Corvettes (jalopnik.com) 

  
I can't find the original article, I think it was in Smithsonian Air and 
Space periodical or AOPA magazine. Here it is i think  My Other Ride Is a 
Spaceship | Space | Air & Space Magazine (airspacemag.com) 

  
My dad did not make the final cut, so no Corvette. 

Mike SLO CA  

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:46:51 AM UTC-7 Robb wrote:

> Yesterday was the League of American Bicyclists (LAB)'s National Ride A 
> Bike Day, so I previewed the Project Mercury Astronaut Bridge Ride, which I 
> lead annually on the Sunday closest to the Apollo 11 lunar landing 
> anniversary. While we think of Houston (i.e "Houston .. the Eagle has 
> landed"), the American human spaceflight program started with Project 
> Mercury at NASA Langley Research Center in Hampton. Hampton City honored 
> the project by naming our main street "Mercury Boulevard" and the road 
> leading to the NASA campus "Commander Shepard Boulevard". The remaining six 
> Mercury Astronauts have bridges named after them. The 18 mile ride begins 
> and ends at Air Power Park which displays one of the Mercury capsules used 
> during training and testing. The ride begins and ends on the 2 1/4 mile 
> linear trail Hampton Waterwalk. It was a very nice day to ride my Atlantis. 
> Usually ride the Clem L for errands and Gus Boots on the local trails. 
> Normally the Atlantis on multi-day tours or sub-24 overnighters (S24O) so 
> this was a treat.
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[RBW] FS: 9/10 Deore derailleurs

[Brendan Willard in SF]

I have some extra deore take off derailleurs.  Just a little parts bin 
scuffing, most look new.

Pics 


2 x Deore T610 9 speed RD - $30 ea. + shipping
2 x Deore M6000 GS 10 speed RD - $30 ea. + shipping
1 x Deore Mega 9 FD $10 + shipping

Local pickup in the Bay Area.

Thanks,
Brendan in SF

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[RBW] Re: Converting 650b Hilsen to Rene Herse 42/26 cranks

[Gary Jacobson]

Can't praise the RH double in 42/26 enough. 

I have tried many FD's and like the IRD Sub C. with the 42 tooth large 
chainring doubles I've used.

The other crank I like due to it being a no compromise low Q crank is the 
86bcd Sugino Apex. 
28 teeth is the smallest inner chainring for that spider when used as a 
double. I believe I posted about the ball and cup BB works for this set up 
on a 130 OLD frame.

I have used XCD cranks as a triple, but these days I'm riding doubles on 
all road bikes. 

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY and
Roque Bliuffs, ME

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 11:19:36 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Patrick is entirely right about the fact that you can re-jig the existing 
> triple crankset into a double with a pant guard for much cheaper, but I am 
> also completely enamoured with my Rene Herse crankset after a couple of 
> years (42-26 as well), and when you consider that it basically a lifetime 
> purchase (other than new rings every now and again), the price is not so 
> bad. 
>
> I run a road FD but I expect a MTB version would actually be more 
> appropriate.  Works fine though, throws the chain over the top maybe once 
> every 10 rides but that's likely just imperfect adjustment 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 1993 62cm Bridgestone RB-1 $1000

[Trevor Bradshaw]

Gorgeous! I'm in Nashville and wishing this was my size.

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 4:38 PM RichS  wrote:

> Great looking bike and I like your use of vinyl albums for the
> background:-) Good luck with the sale.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:30:18 PM UTC-4 exliontamer wrote:
>
>> Hey all. Looking for a local-ish sale on this. The build is pretty Riv'd
>> out. Everything in the picture is included outside of the bottle cages and
>> Brooks. I'll throw in a Selle Italia Titanium Flite if you like. Fresh &
>> lightly shellaced bar tape. Here's a list of parts I think are of note.
>> *Velocity Synergy wheel set(Suntour XC 9000 fh/Shimano Ultegra rh) w/wide
>> range 8 speed cassette
>> *New-ish Rivendell Roly Poly front and Ruffy Tuffy back tires
>> *Shimano Claris rd/Shimano 600 tricolor fd
>> *Shimano 8 speed bar ends dialed in perfectly for indexing but switchable
>> to friction
>> *44cm Nitto Mark's Bar/Shimano BR-4000 levers/Nitto Technomic Tallux Stem
>> *Sugino Compact Double Crankset w/MKS Lambda pedals
>> *Shimano 600 Tricolor Brakes with a 2 sets of NOS pads
>> It's easily the best feeling fast bike I've ever owned but it's time to
>> let it go. $1000 even.
>>
>> I'm happy to work out shipping so long as the buyer is willing to cover
>> all costs. I'll post some more pics of it in the sun tomorrow. Thanks
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Timur Mukhodinov]

Hi Everyone. Love scrolling through this thread and seeing the classic and 
new Rivs.
Here are some iterations of my 59cm Clem Smith Jr 
. through the past 1.5 years. 
https://flic.kr/ps/3WsFhv

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 4:46:30 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> I know my limit on my Bleriot is 42cm and I thought it was due to the 
> sidepull brakes.  Obviously my thoughts were wrong.  Enjoy those nice wide 
> tires.  
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 3:43 PM, 'Je Mar' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Just got the new Shikoros (x48) on the Chev - they actually fit under the 
> SKS fenders but with all the spring debris around, I thought it was just a 
> bit risky.  But, man, are they sweet![image: Chev Shikoro.jpg]
> Jeff in Arlington, VA
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 10:55:23 AM UTC-4 Justin Drake wrote:
>
>> The Rivbike that started the thread is still riding along. I was lucky 
>> enough to pick this up from Adam Liebow in early pandemic times and have it 
>> built out for long days on rough roads and absolutely love how capable it 
>> is. 
>>
>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 7:52:10 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Beautiful bike.  
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 3:56 PM, Joe P  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone, this thread always brings enjoyment. 
>>> Wanted to share this one of a Sam from the recent batch on a rare cloudy 
>>> Los Angeles day
>>> [image: IMG_5684_700px.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 3:24:33 AM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 It's that 'diagatube' that often draws the puzzled looks from curious 
 onlookers.
 [image: DSCN2849.jpeg]

 On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 4:29:13 AM UTC+9 Adam Leibow wrote:

> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of 
> your rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. 
> i 
> love lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne.
>
>
> [image: IMG_3920.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: Converting 650b Hilsen to Rene Herse 42/26 cranks

[Gary Jacobson]

The HHH is 135 OLD. Does it make sense to use a low Q RH double with such a 
frame if one likes lower Q? Gotta think about that.

Recently I was thinking of trying a 86 BCD Apex on my Atlantis and nixed 
the idea. Maybe my thinking is faulty.

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY and 
Roque Bluffs ME

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 11:19:36 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Patrick is entirely right about the fact that you can re-jig the existing 
> triple crankset into a double with a pant guard for much cheaper, but I am 
> also completely enamoured with my Rene Herse crankset after a couple of 
> years (42-26 as well), and when you consider that it basically a lifetime 
> purchase (other than new rings every now and again), the price is not so 
> bad. 
>
> I run a road FD but I expect a MTB version would actually be more 
> appropriate.  Works fine though, throws the chain over the top maybe once 
> every 10 rides but that's likely just imperfect adjustment 

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Re: [RBW] Converting 650b Hilsen to Rene Herse 42/26 cranks

[johnboy]

I have an early A Homer (2006?)700 c 59 cm. I switched from a typical RBW 
Sugino triple to a RH 46/30 double. Did nothing to the bottom bracket-a 
110mm Phil Wood. No issues. Changed to a vintage Suntour lite front 
derailler. John -Walnut Creek
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:50:56 PM UTC-7 Doug Williams wrote:

> Thanks very much, Patrick! As usual, very helpful.
>
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 4:30:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Doug: There are all sorts of reasons to buy the RH crank, foremost among 
>> which is its beauty. But if you want a cheaper, more utilitarian way to get 
>> the same result, consider converting the homely Sugino by removing the 46 
>> and replacing it with a guard (https://bbgbashguard.com), swapping the 
>> 36 for a 42, and considering whether you need to swap the 24 for a 26; but 
>> if you decide that you do, this is easy. 
>>
>> Then you can hold an interior debate about the cogs you need to change in 
>> the rear.
>>
>> The *upshot* is that you can leave the bb spindle and even the front 
>> derailleur strictly alone. 
>>
>> Some years ago I changed the 46-36-24 on my Fargo, long since sold, to a 
>> BBBashGuard/38/24 on the same Sugino XD2. I swapped the 7 cogs on the 
>> Shimano LX freehub for 9 different ones; IIRC, I simply bought 9-sp spacers 
>> and built a cassette from the cogs in my Big Box.
>>
>> Note this carefully: I *did not* change the bb assembly, I kept the same 
>> LX triple front derailleur, *and I didn't even** lower the front 
>> derailleur.* I simply adjusted the fd outer throw adjustment screw. 
>>
>> It all worked fine. Again, I did not lower the fd; just left it hanging 
>> with a huge gap over the outer, formerly middle, ring.
>>
>> But once again, the RH crank is indeed very pretty, and I am tempted to 
>> buy one myself simply for prettiness.
>>
>> Oh,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 1:53 PM Doug Williams  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 58cm 650b A. Homer Hilsen that I purchased from Riv in 2014. I 
>>> have been loving it ever since! It has the Sugino Triple Crank 46-36-24 and 
>>> I run it all friction shifting with bar end silvers, 8 speed with a 11-32 
>>> cassette. The front derailer is Shimano Claris Triple. The bottom bracket 
>>> is  bbc110.
>>>
>>> So...I'm getting older and I notice I don't use the 46 ring much, at 
>>> least not with the higher gears in the back. I am definitely an "UnRacer" 
>>> anyway. I am thinking of getting the Rene Herse double cranks with 42-26 
>>> rings. If I go with the 8 speed megarange 11-34 cassette in the back, I 
>>> would give up almost nothing in the lower gears and lose just some high 
>>> gears that I rarely use anyway. So two questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Is my bottom bracket compatible with the Rene Herse cranks? I think 
>>> so, but I'm not sure. Would now be a good time to replace it anyway?
>>>
>>> 2. Should I just keep my Claris triple FD and crank in the limit screw 
>>> or go with something like the Shimano CX70 or some other double FD that 
>>> works well with compact 42-26 rings?
>>>
>>> Any other comments or suggestions would be welcome.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Converting 650b Hilsen to Rene Herse 42/26 cranks

[johnboy]

Doug, I have an early Hilsen 59 cm 700c (2006?)I switched from the standard 
Riv Sugino triple to a RH 46/30 double. Phil Wood. BB 110 I think. Anyway, 
didn’t need to change anything except the front der. IRD alpine hit the 
chain stay and I went with a suntour lite double der ( vintage)good luck, 
John Walnut Creek
On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 12:53:47 PM UTC-7 Doug Williams wrote:

> I have a 58cm 650b A. Homer Hilsen that I purchased from Riv in 2014. I 
> have been loving it ever since! It has the Sugino Triple Crank 46-36-24 and 
> I run it all friction shifting with bar end silvers, 8 speed with a 11-32 
> cassette. The front derailer is Shimano Claris Triple. The bottom bracket 
> is  bbc110.
>
> So...I'm getting older and I notice I don't use the 46 ring much, at least 
> not with the higher gears in the back. I am definitely an "UnRacer" anyway. 
> I am thinking of getting the Rene Herse double cranks with 42-26 rings. If 
> I go with the 8 speed megarange 11-34 cassette in the back, I would give up 
> almost nothing in the lower gears and lose just some high gears that I 
> rarely use anyway. So two questions:
>
> 1. Is my bottom bracket compatible with the Rene Herse cranks? I think so, 
> but I'm not sure. Would now be a good time to replace it anyway?
>
> 2. Should I just keep my Claris triple FD and crank in the limit screw or 
> go with something like the Shimano CX70 or some other double FD that works 
> well with compact 42-26 rings?
>
> Any other comments or suggestions would be welcome.
>
> Doug
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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Sackville Stickpack

[Daniel Rooke]

I posted this earlier this year but with an omission in the title that was 
confusing.  Thank you to those people who responded before with helpful 
suggestions.

I'd like to see if anyone has one of the Sackville Stickpacks that 
Rivendell made - maybe five years ago? - that they'd like to sell.  I don't 
have a fixed price in mind and am flexible on the condition.  

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[RBW] Re: FS: Pair of Panaracer Gravel King SK tires 650B x 43

[Julian Wong]

Sold!

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 7:56:15 AM UTC-7 Julian Wong wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> Anyone want a pair of brand new G.K SK tires with brown sidewalls, folding 
> bead, 27.5 x 1.75. Just haven't had time to hit the dirt roads.
>
> $65 shipped CONUS
>
> Please PM me if interested!
>
> Julian 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Which bottom bracket to get?

[johnsen...@gmail.com]

ah, i see it in your case.
i bought wider ones  [122 and 127] where the difference was shared on both 
ends.
are these measurements shared by other bb makers? i mean,  is there a 
standard?
also, isn't this a bit fussy, do a few extra mm cause real trouble? that's 
an actual question.
i have little experience to offer.

On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 12:02:49 PM UTC-4 David Person wrote:

> The table confirms my experience with the Shimano BB's I bought.  The 68mm 
> BB shell width ones with a spindle width of 107, 109 and 111 all have the 
> same length spindle exposed on the right side (20.5mm) with the length of 
> the left side spindle receiving the added length from 18.5 to 20.5 to 
> 22.5mm.
>
> On Friday, April 30, 2021 at 7:56:16 AM UTC-7 johnsen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> i bought two bb's from tange recently of different spindle length. in 
>> this case, the added length *was* shared on L and R sides.
>> the last page of this doc shows relevant measurements:
>>
>> https://m.tangeseiki.com/jm/images/com_aedes/tangeseiki/tangeseiki-2017.pdf
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 2:03:07 PM UTC-4 David Person wrote:
>>
>>> I had to learn from trial and error what Nick pointed out above.  a 
>>> 107mm BB was just a bit too short on the drive side for my bike, so I 
>>> bought a 110mm only to find out the extra 3mm was on the non-drive side of 
>>> the spindle.  Had to buy a 113mm, which added 3mm to the drive side spindle 
>>> vs the 110mm.  At the time I did not have any luck finding 1.5mm BB spacers 
>>> to split the difference on the 110mm to make it work.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 10:42:30 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 You're right. I always forget that. 



 On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 2:28:05 AM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:

> AFAIK, the 107 and 110 will give the same chainline - the extra 3mm is 
> all on the non-drive side.
>
> Nick
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[RBW] Re: Portland Design Works - Wow!

[John A. Bennett]

That was our pal, Chris!

When a small company does something like this, it's a hit, financially, so 
yeah, go small whenever you can! 

John in Portland, Ore. 

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 6:23:19 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I ordered a set of PDW Sodapop fenders last weekend and on Tuesday I got 
> an email apologizing for a delay in shipping (which I confess I hadn't 
> actually noticed) and refunding my shipping costs!
>
> Good products AND good people. Spend your money with companies that care.
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[RBW] Portland Design Works - Wow!

[Philip Barrett]

I ordered a set of PDW Sodapop fenders last weekend and on Tuesday I got an 
email apologizing for a delay in shipping (which I confess I hadn't 
actually noticed) and refunding my shipping costs!

Good products AND good people. Spend your money with companies that care.

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

UPS has updated the delivery to today, unless I've forgotten a part I 
should be out & about for the weekend.

Tha mi cho toilichte!

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 9:55:39 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Philip - YAY Oh maybe you will get it in time for the weekend!
>
> I’m anxious to hear of the Platys that have surely been landing on 
> doorsteps around America. Anyone else want to delight us with your words 
> and photos?
>
> So happy for you!
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 3, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>
> Got a wee note from UPS today! 
>
>
> <73f002cade6cbaaa2e2be806417dee8e.png>
>
>
> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 1:53:18 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>>
>> I like looping it around the drive side of the seatpost in this situation 
>> - kind of enlarges the radius of the bend while keeping it close to the 
>> seatpost and frame. Use the longest hanger you can find - Surly makes a 
>> long one.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 2:38:50 PM UTC-4 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> Nathan,
>>> I'm going with canti brakes. I should be running the housing/cables 
>>> tonight or tomorrow.  I have a set of Velo Orange Zeste cantis that I've 
>>> been holding on to. The issue with the rear setup is to have the housing 
>>> loop up so it touches the seatpost, I think.  Otherwise you'll have the 
>>> housing contacting the seatpost lug. I'm not sure how it will look, but 
>>> that's how I saw one another person set it up (Blue Lug?).  I don't like 
>>> how Crust did it as it will rub the paint off of the lug (see their $3800 
>>> Platy).  
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> I'll share photos when I get them set up.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:44 PM Nathan F  wrote:
>>>
 It's been nice seeing everyone get their frames, both here and on 
 Instagram. Lots of great builds so far and plenty of inspiration for how 
 I'll route the rear cantilever on mine. Seems I'm not the only one who 
 wanted to use cantis!

 Yesterday the front rack came in for mine... now all that's left are 
 the rims and frameset! Pending any further delays, I should be riding my 
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell Readers #00-10

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, George! Now seeking printed copies of 0, 1, 2 and 5-9. 

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 8:33:43 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> I have RR's 3, 4, and 10 in paper form.  Otherwise, I have 1, 2 and 5-9 in 
> .pdf files.  That's it.  You are welcome to all of the paper copies and I 
> can email you the .pdf's of the others if you want.
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 10:21:29 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all — As some of you may recall I've been collecting printed matter 
>> from Rivendell: Readers, catalogs and flyers from the past. 
>>
>> I've got a ton of stuff but I'm missing the first run of readers, from 
>> issue zero through number 10. Is there anyone willing to part with their 
>> run? If so, please let me know! 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric 
>>
>

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