Re: [RBW] Re: RBW small bits trading post

[mbaquerizo]

yep, not asking for places to buy the stuff. if I don't find it through this 
thread I know where to get it. 

just trying to create a means of helping ppl with get things they need and get 
rid of things they don't. 

to be clear, despite my title, I'm not asking for a trade. if anyone needs the 
things I've posted, I'm happy to send them out, no strings. 


Michael Baquerizo 

www.mbaquerizo.com 




> On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:23 PM, Minh  wrote:
> 
> re nitto small parts.  circles-jp.com in japan also have a good selection 
> but yeah international shipping (especially right now with covid) is 
> expensive. 
> 
> sim.works also carry a decent selection but they tend to be out a lot (no 
> daruma bolts atm)
> 
>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:10:29 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The best way to get the Nitto struts and rack bolts is to order from Blue 
>> Lug. They'll get to you in just a few days. Their prices on the hardware are 
>> the lowest around but you gotta eat the shipping. 
>> 
>> Be aware that BL sells struts and bolts individually!
>> 
>>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 3:41:34 PM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>> feel free to delete if this is not allowed, for whatever reason. 
>>> 
>>> i and i'm sure we all, have collected bits and bobs throughout the years, 
>>> items (smaller: think struts and bolts, etc) especially when it comes to 
>>> nitto, I find that replacements cost an crazy percentage of a whole 
>>> product. 
>>> 
>>> anyway the idea is a pay it forward sort of post. have something sitting? 
>>> post it. need something? ask for it. 
>>> 
>>> the reason i see smaller parts making more sense is because shipping 
>>> charges are often negligible. once you start shipping the bigger bits it 
>>> becomes a bit more of a financial obligation. that being said I don't 
>>> really see a reason to impose any real rules. 
>>> 
>>> i can start.
>>> 
>>> i have :
>>> 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-band-clamps-pair?variant=23336804097
>>> 
>>> these by the pair in all sizes Riv is selling here. 
>>> 
>>> i've also got two different sets of struts I don't need. one set of 
>>> shorties that are bent ala 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-rack-hardware-15cm-bent-struts-pair-20025?pr_prod_strat=description&pr_rec_pid=7406009729&pr_ref_pid=7406009345&pr_seq=uniform
>>> 
>>> albeit much smaller. i can measure when i have access to them in a week or 
>>> two. they came to me on a rear bag support rack (r14) to get the rack close 
>>> to the 
>>> 
>>> i need: 
>>> 
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-rack-hardware-rack-nut-bolt-each-20184?_pos=3&_sid=fbd6bb55e&_ss=r
>>> 
>>> x 3 and more specifically just 2 and 1 washer that has the concave indents. 
>>> i lost it in the process of installation.
>>> 
>>> i also need:
>>> 
>>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-alloy-struts-mounting-stays---pair-bicycle_mounted_rack_part_nitto_nittorackstays_870/p?skuId=2290
>>> 
>>> in the 350mm size.
>>> 
>>> TBC - i'm sure i got a bunch more smaller bits i'd be happy to send to 
>>> whoever might need. 
>>> 
>>> pay it forward.
>>> 
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Cold rubber is fast rubber, let's shred! (says the guy with two kids and a 
job that burns the present daylight hours away)
I'd like to do a ride that started with a ferry across the river to Jersey 
City, winding our way up to the George Washington bridge. From there we 
could head north over the Hudson bridge to the Bronx, then weave our way 
down the Harlem River and East river, crossing every bridge we can. Every 
crossing possible might be fun? Or something less ridiculous would be fine, 
if you're into that sort of thing...
Shirley Chisholm gravel grinder! (or hoagies, heros, subs, whatevs)
-Kai, of Williamsburg East and a sloppily dressed Mixte, among others

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:25:01 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> Hi all, my name is Minh and i'm on the lookout for other Brooklyn 
> Riv'sters, maybe we can start a gang, and by gang i mean a bunch of slow 
> riders that will use our age, wisdom and sharply appointed bikes to 
> intimidate the go-fast riders in Prospect Park.  
>
> In all seriousness, i've got a Quickbeam here that i am desperately trying 
> to justify keeping in this cramped Park Slope apartment.  Something that 
> would go a long way towards that is to get out and ride with like-minded 
> folks.   Maybe when it gets warmer we can do a ride out of town?  I know 
> i've seen a sharply dressed Riv Mixte riding thru the park, if you see me 
> on my QB--you'll know its me from the over the top accessories, please say 
> hi!
>
> If this is interesting please reply here, i'll collect names and we can 
> start a local mini thread? 
>
> On a related note have a small pile of bike parts that i'm not likely to 
> use that i'd like to donate, if anyone is aware of a co-op that is open 
> taking donations, please let me know!
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW small bits trading post

[Minh]

re nitto small parts.  circles-jp.com in japan also have a good selection 
but yeah international shipping (especially right now with covid) is 
expensive. 

sim.works also carry a decent selection but they tend to be out a lot (no 
daruma bolts atm)

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:10:29 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> The best way to get the Nitto struts and rack bolts is to order from Blue 
> Lug. They'll get to you in just a few days. Their prices on the hardware 
> are the lowest around but you gotta eat the shipping. 
>
> Be aware that BL sells struts and bolts *individually!*
>
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 3:41:34 PM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> feel free to delete if this is not allowed, for whatever reason. 
>>
>> i and i'm sure we all, have collected bits and bobs throughout the years, 
>> items (smaller: think struts and bolts, etc) especially when it comes to 
>> nitto, I find that replacements cost an crazy percentage of a whole 
>> product. 
>>
>> anyway the idea is a pay it forward sort of post. have something sitting? 
>> post it. need something? ask for it. 
>>
>> the reason i see smaller parts making more sense is because shipping 
>> charges are often negligible. once you start shipping the bigger bits it 
>> becomes a bit more of a financial obligation. that being said I don't 
>> really see a reason to impose any real rules. 
>>
>> i can start.
>>
>> i have :
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-band-clamps-pair?variant=23336804097
>>
>> these by the pair in all sizes Riv is selling here. 
>>
>> i've also got two different sets of struts I don't need. one set of 
>> shorties that are bent ala 
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-rack-hardware-15cm-bent-struts-pair-20025?pr_prod_strat=description&pr_rec_pid=7406009729&pr_ref_pid=7406009345&pr_seq=uniform
>>
>> albeit much smaller. i can measure when i have access to them in a week 
>> or two. they came to me on a rear bag support rack (r14) to get the rack 
>> close to the 
>>
>> i need: 
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-rack-hardware-rack-nut-bolt-each-20184?_pos=3&_sid=fbd6bb55e&_ss=r
>>
>> *x 3* and more specifically just 2 and 1 washer that has the concave 
>> indents. i lost it in the process of installation.
>>
>> i also need:
>>
>>
>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-alloy-struts-mounting-stays---pair-bicycle_mounted_rack_part_nitto_nittorackstays_870/p?skuId=2290
>>
>> in the 350mm size.
>>
>> TBC - i'm sure i got a bunch more smaller bits i'd be happy to send to 
>> whoever might need. 
>>
>> pay it forward.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: RBW small bits trading post

[Eric Marth]

The best way to get the Nitto struts and rack bolts is to order from Blue 
Lug. They'll get to you in just a few days. Their prices on the hardware 
are the lowest around but you gotta eat the shipping. 

Be aware that BL sells struts and bolts *individually!*

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 3:41:34 PM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> feel free to delete if this is not allowed, for whatever reason. 
>
> i and i'm sure we all, have collected bits and bobs throughout the years, 
> items (smaller: think struts and bolts, etc) especially when it comes to 
> nitto, I find that replacements cost an crazy percentage of a whole 
> product. 
>
> anyway the idea is a pay it forward sort of post. have something sitting? 
> post it. need something? ask for it. 
>
> the reason i see smaller parts making more sense is because shipping 
> charges are often negligible. once you start shipping the bigger bits it 
> becomes a bit more of a financial obligation. that being said I don't 
> really see a reason to impose any real rules. 
>
> i can start.
>
> i have :
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-band-clamps-pair?variant=23336804097
>
> these by the pair in all sizes Riv is selling here. 
>
> i've also got two different sets of struts I don't need. one set of 
> shorties that are bent ala 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-rack-hardware-15cm-bent-struts-pair-20025?pr_prod_strat=description&pr_rec_pid=7406009729&pr_ref_pid=7406009345&pr_seq=uniform
>
> albeit much smaller. i can measure when i have access to them in a week or 
> two. they came to me on a rear bag support rack (r14) to get the rack close 
> to the 
>
> i need: 
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-rack-hardware-rack-nut-bolt-each-20184?_pos=3&_sid=fbd6bb55e&_ss=r
>
> *x 3* and more specifically just 2 and 1 washer that has the concave 
> indents. i lost it in the process of installation.
>
> i also need:
>
>
> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-alloy-struts-mounting-stays---pair-bicycle_mounted_rack_part_nitto_nittorackstays_870/p?skuId=2290
>
> in the 350mm size.
>
> TBC - i'm sure i got a bunch more smaller bits i'd be happy to send to 
> whoever might need. 
>
> pay it forward.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Swift Industries moving stock production to Asia

[Eric Marth]

I understand running a boutique bag business must be tough but kinda bummed 
to learn that "Beginning in March of 2022, a portion of our stock 
collection will be made in Indonesia, built from materials produced 
throughout Asia." 

I dig the freaky small makers working in the USA: Paul, Phil, Sackville, 
White Industries, etc. 

More here: 
https://builtbyswift.com/exciting-swift-news-change-is-coming-in-march-2022/

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[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho Bars in stock at Crust

[Eric Marth]

For anyone who missed it, Ron's email update included a bit on the 
availability, quick sale and re-stock of the back bars: 


   - 
   
   That brings me to the mild outcry over the rapid sell through of Uncle 
   Ron’s Orthopedic Back bar.  There is a narrative swirling around the 
   internet that we do this sorta thing on purpose —- if we were only that 
   smart.  This is a short story about a small business with medium 
   popularity.  
   
   I generally prototype new products in my barn.  In the case of these 
   handlebars, i used a nitto bosco as a blank and bent them to where i liked 
   it best.  I call up Matt from Crust and convince him to make them — where 
   he generally trusts me with baked in reluctance.  Adam Sklar digitally 
   draws them up for me —- and its off to the best handlebar factory in Taiwan 
   who also happen to make Renthal’s motocross bars.  So these handlebars are 
   gonna take a while to make.  In normal times, 3-6 months is normal …. as 
   things sit now, you are lucky to have a turn around under 18 months.  
   
   So there you are with a high performance geriatric handlebar design 
   wondering how many you should order based on what kind of demand there will 
   be in 18 months… will we even be here??? Fuck! Okay, 90 sounds about right. 
90 it was.  90 gone in an afternoon.  More than 90 on order now…. you 
   guessed it …. 18 months away.  Hope you still want them! 
   
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 7:47:17 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mine came in today, and let me just say, I wish I ordered two. They are 
> fantastic!
> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 3:43:07 PM UTC-7 Andrew Huston wrote:
>
>> If anyone has buyers remorse, let me know and I'll take a set off your 
>> hands. I lingered and lost.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 12:46:23 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, thanks for the link to the interview. 
>>>
>>> That is a beautiful bike. From the side, this set up looks a lot like my 
>>> Hunqapillar with Alba's. I'm hoping a Nitto NP stem will get the Ortho bars 
>>> down low enough as my saddle is a lot closer to the frame than Uncle Ron's 
>>> saddle is. If the bars slip in the NP stem slips, I may try a 4 bolt Wendy 
>>> stem.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 11:46:17 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Because everything is better with pics – drive-side view as described 
 by John ;)  I love how beat to shit this bike is, the mismatched Paul 
 brakes, the silver, the purple. Is the fork a replacement? The article 
 says 
 he's running a 38-20 double with an extra ring as bashguard. Umm 
 that's 
 groovy. 

 There's a recent interview w. Ron on the Blue Lug site 
 . He mentions 
 there might be an aluminum bike like this in the early development stages 
 with Crust. 

 [image: Ronnies-DURALCAN-S-Works-Stumpjumper-M2-4.jpg]

 On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 1:20:07 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

> 69cm is just more than minimal width for my shoulders & wrists. But 
> I'm praying these bars aren't TOO flexy for me, and that pairing with a 
> long, low stem will give me some breathing room.
>
> In those Radavist photos, I noticed Uncle Ron has his stem down below 
> his saddle, and is gripping those bars at the inside end of those grips.
>
> My intuition is telling me a bullmoose version of these bars with a 
> 170mm quill would fit my Hunqapillar better.
>
> John
>


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[RBW] Re: My Homer made the email update

[Eric Marth]

Very nice, John! Looks like a great ride, must be exciting for the sneak 
peek. 

Jason, I don't see the Bombadil. Did you.. buy a Gallop?

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 2:28:27 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> That's awesome!  I love the build - the perfect all day, all road bike! 
>
> My bike was in the email update too... :o
>
> On Saturday, 22 January 2022 at 05:24:14 UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Wonderful and congratulations. My Homer rides great.  You’ll love it. 
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 8:19:37 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Beautiful! I would say it looks perfect. Enjoy your new bike!
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:26:40 PM UTC-6 John G. wrote:
>>>
 Caught my first glimpse of my new Homer in the email update AND I AM 
 PLEASED! Super excited to get my hands on this one.
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[rltilley]

BikeSnob owns two Rivs and rides around NYC. If I ever get back out there I’d 
likely bring my Brompton.

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Minh  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, my name is Minh and i'm on the lookout for other Brooklyn Riv'sters, 
> maybe we can start a gang, and by gang i mean a bunch of slow riders that 
> will use our age, wisdom and sharply appointed bikes to intimidate the 
> go-fast riders in Prospect Park.  
> 
> In all seriousness, i've got a Quickbeam here that i am desperately trying to 
> justify keeping in this cramped Park Slope apartment.  Something that would 
> go a long way towards that is to get out and ride with like-minded folks.   
> Maybe when it gets warmer we can do a ride out of town?  I know i've seen a 
> sharply dressed Riv Mixte riding thru the park, if you see me on my 
> QB--you'll know its me from the over the top accessories, please say hi!
> 
> If this is interesting please reply here, i'll collect names and we can start 
> a local mini thread? 
> 
> On a related note have a small pile of bike parts that i'm not likely to use 
> that i'd like to donate, if anyone is aware of a co-op that is open taking 
> donations, please let me know!
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Re: [RBW] Best grocery pannier? Nice lightweight wool cycling "jacket" or full-zip mid-weight jersey?

[Patrick Moore]

Joyce and Turnip: Thank you. Joyce, I see that the Seattle CL offer is red,
at least, as far as I can judge from my monitor and with my
color-vision-deprived eyes. If I were closer I might well grasp. Too bad
I', 1,500 miles away.

In fact. I'm not in the market just now, but I may well be in the market in
a few months, and this Ortlieb shopping-specific design is the best I've
looked at; and apparently it comes in red, which I favor for the
Rivendel-esque* Sage Green frame it would be used on.

*The bike is the Matthews 2:1, but it's a Riv clone+ which also copies
pretty closely with its powdercoat the wonderful Sage Green (with
lovely Cream Accents) Joe Bell paint of the 2003 exemplar. The Sage Green
color is (*I* think) very well set off by red accents in bar tape and
panniers.

+ Copied angles and lengths, and the powdercoat is very similar tho'
without the cream accents; but saved from plagiarism and (one hopes)
obloquy because standard gauge / thinnish-wall 531, and narrow 118 mm OL to
accommodate both 114  and 120 OL hubs -- SA hub gear and fixed gear drive
wheels -- plus various odd housing stops for the SA shifter bits, and
oddball internal dyno-wire routing, weird custom rack attachments, etc etc.



On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 1:09 PM JAS  wrote:

> Patrick,
> Here's an Ortlieb shopper I spotted this morning on the Seattle Craigslist:
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bop/d/bellevue-ortlieb-waterproof-bike-basket/7436299979.html
>
> --Joyce
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 8:28:10 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Pat; this is the one. REI is out and I don't see it on other
>> sites, but I'll keep looking.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:33 AM Pat Smith  wrote:
>>
>>> Love my ortlieb bike shopper. Much better than a back roller for
>>> groceries. It used to come in red. I've got one in red
>>>
>>> https://www.rei.com/product/885305/ortlieb-bike-shopper-pannier-single
>>>
>>> Pat in DC
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 12:03:39 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Eric; and those come in red, too!

 I want something with a flap and something that can be adapted to an
 Ortlieb or Arkle-type "clamp" mounting system and be offset to the rear by
 about 3". I've owned at least 2 different grocery panniers of this design,
 and they work well on smooth unobstructed routes, but I've lost one such
 similar pannier when riding on a dirt road; either fell off on a bump, or
 perhaps was scraped off when I went through some path entry barriers.
 (Fortunately I had nothing particularly valuable in the pannier at the
 time.)

 On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:22 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Forgive me if these don't check all of your boxes, I don't have that
> much processing power. But check 'em out!
>
> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP
>
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[RBW] RBW small bits trading post

[Michael Baquerizo]

feel free to delete if this is not allowed, for whatever reason. 

i and i'm sure we all, have collected bits and bobs throughout the years, 
items (smaller: think struts and bolts, etc) especially when it comes to 
nitto, I find that replacements cost an crazy percentage of a whole 
product. 

anyway the idea is a pay it forward sort of post. have something sitting? 
post it. need something? ask for it. 

the reason i see smaller parts making more sense is because shipping 
charges are often negligible. once you start shipping the bigger bits it 
becomes a bit more of a financial obligation. that being said I don't 
really see a reason to impose any real rules. 

i can start.

i have :

https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-band-clamps-pair?variant=23336804097

these by the pair in all sizes Riv is selling here. 

i've also got two different sets of struts I don't need. one set of 
shorties that are bent 
ala 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-rack-hardware-15cm-bent-struts-pair-20025?pr_prod_strat=description&pr_rec_pid=7406009729&pr_ref_pid=7406009345&pr_seq=uniform

albeit much smaller. i can measure when i have access to them in a week or 
two. they came to me on a rear bag support rack (r14) to get the rack close 
to the 

i need: 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-rack-hardware-rack-nut-bolt-each-20184?_pos=3&_sid=fbd6bb55e&_ss=r

*x 3* and more specifically just 2 and 1 washer that has the concave 
indents. i lost it in the process of installation.

i also need:

https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-alloy-struts-mounting-stays---pair-bicycle_mounted_rack_part_nitto_nittorackstays_870/p?skuId=2290

in the 350mm size.

TBC - i'm sure i got a bunch more smaller bits i'd be happy to send to 
whoever might need. 

pay it forward.


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Re: [RBW] Best grocery pannier? Nice lightweight wool cycling "jacket" or full-zip mid-weight jersey?

[luckyturnip]

Here’s another in Fairfield (no affiliation) 

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bop/d/fairfield-ortlieb-waterproof-pannier/7430036273.html

> On Jan 22, 2022, at 12:09, JAS  wrote:
> 
> Patrick,
> Here's an Ortlieb shopper I spotted this morning on the Seattle Craigslist:
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bop/d/bellevue-ortlieb-waterproof-bike-basket/7436299979.html
> 
> --Joyce
>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 8:28:10 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>> Thank you, Pat; this is the one. REI is out and I don't see it on other 
>> sites, but I'll keep looking.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:33 AM Pat Smith  wrote:
>>> Love my ortlieb bike shopper. Much better than a back roller for groceries. 
>>> It used to come in red. I've got one in red
>>> 
>>> https://www.rei.com/product/885305/ortlieb-bike-shopper-pannier-single
>>> 
>>> Pat in DC
>>> 
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 12:03:39 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
> Thanks, Eric; and those come in red, too!
> 
> I want something with a flap and something that can be adapted to an 
> Ortlieb or Arkle-type "clamp" mounting system and be offset to the rear 
> by about 3". I've owned at least 2 different grocery panniers of this 
> design, and they work well on smooth unobstructed routes, but I've lost 
> one such similar pannier when riding on a dirt road; either fell off on a 
> bump, or perhaps was scraped off when I went through some path entry 
> barriers. (Fortunately I had nothing particularly valuable in the pannier 
> at the time.)
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:22 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>> Forgive me if these don't check all of your boxes, I don't have that 
>> much processing power. But check 'em out! 
>> 
>> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP
 
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Re: [RBW] Best grocery pannier? Nice lightweight wool cycling "jacket" or full-zip mid-weight jersey?

[JAS]

Patrick,
Here's an Ortlieb shopper I spotted this morning on the Seattle Craigslist:
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bop/d/bellevue-ortlieb-waterproof-bike-basket/7436299979.html

--Joyce
On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 8:28:10 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thank you, Pat; this is the one. REI is out and I don't see it on other 
> sites, but I'll keep looking.
>
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:33 AM Pat Smith  wrote:
>
>> Love my ortlieb bike shopper. Much better than a back roller for 
>> groceries. It used to come in red. I've got one in red
>>
>> https://www.rei.com/product/885305/ortlieb-bike-shopper-pannier-single
>>
>> Pat in DC
>>
>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 12:03:39 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Eric; and those come in red, too!
>>>
>>> I want something with a flap and something that can be adapted to an 
>>> Ortlieb or Arkle-type "clamp" mounting system and be offset to the rear by 
>>> about 3". I've owned at least 2 different grocery panniers of this design, 
>>> and they work well on smooth unobstructed routes, but I've lost one such 
>>> similar pannier when riding on a dirt road; either fell off on a bump, or 
>>> perhaps was scraped off when I went through some path entry barriers. 
>>> (Fortunately I had nothing particularly valuable in the pannier at the 
>>> time.)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:22 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
 Forgive me if these don't check all of your boxes, I don't have that 
 much processing power. But check 'em out! 

 https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP

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[RBW] Re: My Homer made the email update

[Jason Fuller]

That's awesome!  I love the build - the perfect all day, all road bike! 

My bike was in the email update too... :o

On Saturday, 22 January 2022 at 05:24:14 UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> Wonderful and congratulations. My Homer rides great.  You’ll love it. 
>
> Roberta
>
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 8:19:37 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Beautiful! I would say it looks perfect. Enjoy your new bike!
>>
>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:26:40 PM UTC-6 John G. wrote:
>>
>>> Caught my first glimpse of my new Homer in the email update AND I AM 
>>> PLEASED! Super excited to get my hands on this one.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Chris Halasz]

60cm Heron Touring Bicycle - $2,650 - Los Angeles Area 

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-60cm-heron-touring-bicycle/7435452066.html

Ad includes: 

Mix of Ultegra, Shimano 600, Deore LX, and Cane Creek components. 
Cantilever brakes
Cane Creek brake levers
Mavic AZ19 alu wheels
Nitto stem, seatpost, and bars.
Brooks leather saddle and leather bar tape.
Newer Clement/Schwalbe touring/gravel tires. 
Stainless bottle cages
Stainless rear rack
Nitto "Campee" compact front rack with Cr-Mo fork-mount extension

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 2:01:22 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Right?? I can't even ride singlespeeds these days and I would snap up a 54 
> QB in a heartbeat. Any color! (but make it green)
>
>
> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 1:48:12 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Yeah, Joe...I thought that's what you meant...may be one reason why I'm 
>> not super-jonesing for an orange quickbeam...although if a 54 QB fell into 
>> my lap like the proverbial crumbs from the proverbial rich man's table, I 
>> wouldn't be  unhappy😊
>>
>> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 1:26:22 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> To calarify because I was trying to be nice (it's my new thing), I don't 
>>> think the color on '93 X0-1's needs improving. I wouldn't repaint at all 
>>> unless it was completely trashed. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 10:23:43 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 X0-1 repainted to "better than Pumpkin" Orange. Yeah. 


 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/d/morgan-hill-bridgestone-xo-52cm/7435187965.html

 On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 4:04:17 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> 62cm Sam
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-62cm-sam-hillborne-new/7385309583.html



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Re: [RBW] New Roadinis will have clearance for 42 mm tires

[Chris Halasz]

I'm wondering if the new Roadini extended its chainstays to accommodate for 
the larger tire size. 

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 6:49:26 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Honestly with the less swoopy top tube and sidepulls there isn't as much 
> different than the current Roadini beyond a longer wheelbase.  And if the 
> point is to have albastache or drops then I would think the Roadini would 
> be a touch better. I am sure the new Gallop will be good and people will 
> buy it but I agree with @iamkeith that the previous design was the perfect 
> Riv styled road bike.  Hopefully someone here got one of them. They did 
> sell fast.
>
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 9:08:19 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 4:30:32 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Missed it! Probably wouldn't have jumped anyway - I'm getting a strong 
>>> itch for a Platy - but it's cool!
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>>
>> It must have lasted all of 3 minutes.  I clicked on the link the moment I 
>> saw the email update, but it was already gone.  Probably for the best 
>> because it would have looked awfully silly sitting next to my orange 
>> susie.  Congratulations to whoever got it.
>>
>> Without wanting to "pile on,"  i do feel compelled to point out that this 
>> bike had become an instant holy grail, the moment they decided to switch to 
>> caliper brakes.  I'm sure the production Charlie will be a good bike and 
>> that they'll sell whatever they make.  But, for people like me who already 
>> own caliper-equipped, roadish bikes that are otherwise perfectly adequate, 
>> a charlie with canti brakes had just enough "extra" going for it to 
>> interest me.  With caliper brakes, I'll probably just double down on the 
>> Saluki and Ram, and deny myself the joys of the longer bike yet again.  
>> First world problem if there ever was one.
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Joe, you need that Stainless Steel Clem!
 Doug

 On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 4:04:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> The prototype is for sale on the Riv site. $2k complete, 57cm. If it 
> were a 60cm I would have bought it.
>
> I did some powerpoint measurements and estimate the seat height in the 
> photo to be 30.6", FWIW.
>
> Eric
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:38 AM Pancake  wrote:
>
>> I was excited for a Charles H Gallop too, but no v-brakes means I’m 
>> out. Wish I could snag that prototype, because that is just an ideal 
>> setup. 
>>
>> But the Sam Hillborne also started with long reach brakes (like mine) 
>> and eventually made its way to canti/V-brake posts so hopefully CHG goes 
>> the same way and sooner than later. 
>>
>> Abe
>>
>> On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 09:38:06 UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I was really looking forward to the CHG, but the long reach 
>>> brakes kill it for me. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022, Johnny Alien  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am a little shocked that they are apparently bringing that change 
 over to the Charlie Gallop too. Instead of the V-brake/cantilever 
 setup 
 that the previous prototype had. Since they are designing their own V 
 brakes that look to be quite nice it seems that they would push the 
 bikes 
 toward that. The only reason I can think that they would make that 
 change 
 is because sidepulls are a little more common on road style bikes. But 
 making a decision based only on aesthetics seems counter to how 
 Rivendell 
 normally does things.

 On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 11:48:38 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:

> I'm so glad I bought my Roadini frame before this change! The 559 
> brakes do not work for me: poor power in dry conditions and unusable 
> in 
> wet. I find that 33mm tires have plenty of cush and 42's would 
> probably 
> create toe overlap on a 50 size frame. I'm grateful to have found a 
> Rivendell frame that works for me. 
> [image: DSC00040.JPG]
>
> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:46:12 PM UTC-8 Eamon Nordquist 
> wrote:
>
>> I saw today the announcement that the new Roadinis are niw 
>> designed for R559 brakes and will easily clear 42 mm tires. Good 
>> news, as 
>> far as I’m concerned! The only thing I am slightly sad about is that 
>> they 
>> aren’t coming in grilver, which is THE color for the Roadini, in my 
>> opinion. That may be influenced by my love for the silver gray imron 
>> paint 
>> on early 80’s Treks. Regardless, if I have a  job by then, I may 
>> have to 
>> get one.
>>
>> Eamon
>> Seattle 
>>
>

Re: [RBW] Best grocery pannier? Nice lightweight wool cycling "jacket" or full-zip mid-weight jersey?

[Patrick Moore]

Thank you, Pat; this is the one. REI is out and I don't see it on other
sites, but I'll keep looking.

On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:33 AM Pat Smith  wrote:

> Love my ortlieb bike shopper. Much better than a back roller for
> groceries. It used to come in red. I've got one in red
>
> https://www.rei.com/product/885305/ortlieb-bike-shopper-pannier-single
>
> Pat in DC
>
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 12:03:39 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Eric; and those come in red, too!
>>
>> I want something with a flap and something that can be adapted to an
>> Ortlieb or Arkle-type "clamp" mounting system and be offset to the rear by
>> about 3". I've owned at least 2 different grocery panniers of this design,
>> and they work well on smooth unobstructed routes, but I've lost one such
>> similar pannier when riding on a dirt road; either fell off on a bump, or
>> perhaps was scraped off when I went through some path entry barriers.
>> (Fortunately I had nothing particularly valuable in the pannier at the
>> time.)
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:22 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Forgive me if these don't check all of your boxes, I don't have that
>>> much processing power. But check 'em out!
>>>
>>> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Roadinis will have clearance for 42 mm tires

[Johnny Alien]

Honestly with the less swoopy top tube and sidepulls there isn't as much 
different than the current Roadini beyond a longer wheelbase.  And if the 
point is to have albastache or drops then I would think the Roadini would 
be a touch better. I am sure the new Gallop will be good and people will 
buy it but I agree with @iamkeith that the previous design was the perfect 
Riv styled road bike.  Hopefully someone here got one of them. They did 
sell fast.

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 9:08:19 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 4:30:32 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Missed it! Probably wouldn't have jumped anyway - I'm getting a strong 
>> itch for a Platy - but it's cool!
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>>
> It must have lasted all of 3 minutes.  I clicked on the link the moment I 
> saw the email update, but it was already gone.  Probably for the best 
> because it would have looked awfully silly sitting next to my orange 
> susie.  Congratulations to whoever got it.
>
> Without wanting to "pile on,"  i do feel compelled to point out that this 
> bike had become an instant holy grail, the moment they decided to switch to 
> caliper brakes.  I'm sure the production Charlie will be a good bike and 
> that they'll sell whatever they make.  But, for people like me who already 
> own caliper-equipped, roadish bikes that are otherwise perfectly adequate, 
> a charlie with canti brakes had just enough "extra" going for it to 
> interest me.  With caliper brakes, I'll probably just double down on the 
> Saluki and Ram, and deny myself the joys of the longer bike yet again.  
> First world problem if there ever was one.
>
>
>  
>
>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Joe, you need that Stainless Steel Clem!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 4:04:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 The prototype is for sale on the Riv site. $2k complete, 57cm. If it 
 were a 60cm I would have bought it.

 I did some powerpoint measurements and estimate the seat height in the 
 photo to be 30.6", FWIW.

 Eric

 On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:38 AM Pancake  wrote:

> I was excited for a Charles H Gallop too, but no v-brakes means I’m 
> out. Wish I could snag that prototype, because that is just an ideal 
> setup. 
>
> But the Sam Hillborne also started with long reach brakes (like mine) 
> and eventually made its way to canti/V-brake posts so hopefully CHG goes 
> the same way and sooner than later. 
>
> Abe
>
> On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 09:38:06 UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I was really looking forward to the CHG, but the long reach 
>> brakes kill it for me. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022, Johnny Alien  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am a little shocked that they are apparently bringing that change 
>>> over to the Charlie Gallop too. Instead of the V-brake/cantilever setup 
>>> that the previous prototype had. Since they are designing their own V 
>>> brakes that look to be quite nice it seems that they would push the 
>>> bikes 
>>> toward that. The only reason I can think that they would make that 
>>> change 
>>> is because sidepulls are a little more common on road style bikes. But 
>>> making a decision based only on aesthetics seems counter to how 
>>> Rivendell 
>>> normally does things.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 11:48:38 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:
>>>
 I'm so glad I bought my Roadini frame before this change! The 559 
 brakes do not work for me: poor power in dry conditions and unusable 
 in 
 wet. I find that 33mm tires have plenty of cush and 42's would 
 probably 
 create toe overlap on a 50 size frame. I'm grateful to have found a 
 Rivendell frame that works for me. 
 [image: DSC00040.JPG]

 On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:46:12 PM UTC-8 Eamon Nordquist 
 wrote:

> I saw today the announcement that the new Roadinis are niw 
> designed for R559 brakes and will easily clear 42 mm tires. Good 
> news, as 
> far as I’m concerned! The only thing I am slightly sad about is that 
> they 
> aren’t coming in grilver, which is THE color for the Roadini, in my 
> opinion. That may be influenced by my love for the silver gray imron 
> paint 
> on early 80’s Treks. Regardless, if I have a  job by then, I may have 
> to 
> get one.
>
> Eamon
> Seattle 
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[RBW] FS: Bar Tape, Leather Cinelli Lizard-Skins Fizik Specialized more [long]

[David Hallerman]

Hello! I’ve arranged today’s sale of handlebar tapes by color. Actually, 
I’m surprised that I’ve not seen an online bike retailer present bar 
tape that same way, since if you want RED bar tape, then yellow tape 
from a company whose tape you like still ain’t gonna help you. But 
leather tapes are listed first, separate from the chromatic arrangement.


That said, have fun. Isn’t bar tape the most fun part of bike stuff? All 
those colors and textures! I’ve listed 40 pairs of different bar tapes 
in 10 different shades. All new, although some pairs are a bit older. 
Prices include shipping, photos available on request, and your questions 
quickly answered.


Dave, who notes that when a bar tape package lists a more descriptive 
term for its color such as “tangerine orange” it’s listed that way below


_*LEATHER*_
Brooks Leather, antique brown = $45
Velo Orange Grand Cru Leather, espresso (brown) = $60
Walnut Studio Coil Leather Bar Wraps, dark brown = $75
Walnut Studio Coil Leather Bar Wraps, honey = $75
Brooks Leather, raspberry (rare!) = $95

_*BROWN/TAN*_
Serfas Cork, tan = $14
Cinelli Cork, tan = $17

_*RED*_
Profile Design Cork, red = $11
Deda Elementi Logo Tape, dark red = $12
Cinelli Cork Gel, red = $17
Planet Bike Gel, red = $17
Bontrager Gel, viper red = $17
Lizard Skins DSP 1.8mm, red = $27
Lizard Skins DSP 3.2mm, crimson red = $34

_*GREEN*_
Deda Elementi Logo Tape, jaguar green = $11
Deda Elementi Logo Tape, dark green = $11
Soma Thick & Zesty, jade green = $15
Soma Thick & Zesty, kelly green (2 available) = $15 ea.
Planet Bike Gel, celeste green = $17
Specialized S-Wrap Roubaix, teal = $23

_*BLUE*_
Deda Elementi Logo Tape, light navy = $11
Bontrager Cork, blue = $17
Bontrager Gel, blue = $18

_*YELLOW*_
Cinelli Cork Gel, yellow = $17
Planet Bike Gel, yellow = $17
Lizard Skins DSP 2.5mm, yellow  = $31

_*PURPLE*_
Off The Front Shuade (suede-like), purple = $16
Specialized S-Wrap Roubaix, purple = $25

_*ORANGE*_
Lizard Skins DSP 2.5mm, tangerine orange  = $31

_*BLACK*_
Arundel Cork, black = $17
Off The Front Cyclo-Cross (/ask me/), black = $17
Scott Grip Wrap - /*see note*/ - black (6 available) = $23 ea.
Fizik Microtex w/Bargel pads, black (2 available) = $43 ea.

_*WHITE*_
Cinelli Cork Gel, white = $17
Planet Bike Gel, white = $17
Specialized S-Wrap Roubaix, white = $21
Scott Grip Wrap - /*see note*/ - white (2 available) = $23 ea.

_*GREY*_
Serfas Synthetic Cork, grey = $14
Off The Front Shuade (suede-like), grey = $16
Off The Front/Richard Sachs, grey = $22

+
/*Note: Scott Grip Wrap* is the unique, now 30-year-old bar wrap that’s 
still great. Here’s why: The highly stretchable, pliable, rubber-like 
material has stayed supple in my workshop, still in great condition. On 
the handlebars it has some give, but works wonders when layered over 
some older gel/cork tape. It’s a smooth-surface tape, for those who like 
their tape smooth. Non-adhesive, Grip Wrap rewraps easily, is washable, 
and comes in long-length packages for big handlebars. Back in the 1990s, 
it was by far my favorite tape, had it on at least five bikes. So early 
this century, when Scott Grip Wrap tape was hard to find but a large 
stash became available, I bought it. And I’ve used only a few from that 
stash because of this: Scott Grip Wrap came in only three colors: black, 
white, grey. And with more bikes than five, my palette has expanded too. 
Even so, if you could use a unique black or white tape (I have no grey 
to sell) as I’ve described it, consider this./

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

[Austin Plocher]

I ride prospect park on my roadini often, would be happy to link up! 

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 10:38:44 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:

> Hi Minh, I’m not from NY so unfortunately can’t join your gang but I sure 
> would enjoy if you posted some pics of your “over the top” Quickbeam! I’m a 
> fan of ogling Quickbeams and your description is so fun.
> Best of luck finding your people! 
>
> On Jan 21, 2022, at 19:25, Minh  wrote:
>
> Hi all, my name is Minh and i'm on the lookout for other Brooklyn 
> Riv'sters, maybe we can start a gang, and by gang i mean a bunch of slow 
> riders that will use our age, wisdom and sharply appointed bikes to 
> intimidate the go-fast riders in Prospect Park.  
>
>
> In all seriousness, i've got a Quickbeam here that i am desperately trying 
> to justify keeping in this cramped Park Slope apartment.  Something that 
> would go a long way towards that is to get out and ride with like-minded 
> folks.   Maybe when it gets warmer we can do a ride out of town?  I know 
> i've seen a sharply dressed Riv Mixte riding thru the park, if you see me 
> on my QB--you'll know its me from the over the top accessories, please say 
> hi!
>
> If this is interesting please reply here, i'll collect names and we can 
> start a local mini thread? 
>
> On a related note have a small pile of bike parts that i'm not likely to 
> use that i'd like to donate, if anyone is aware of a co-op that is open 
> taking donations, please let me know!
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Re: [RBW] Best grocery pannier? Nice lightweight wool cycling "jacket" or full-zip mid-weight jersey?

[Rusty Click]

I've seen that Ortlieb shopper in my LBS.  Nice bag, but I make do with a 
single rear pannier as a shopper.

Rusty Click
Pgh, PA
On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 8:33:20 AM UTC-5 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Love my ortlieb bike shopper. Much better than a back roller for 
> groceries. It used to come in red. I've got one in red
>
> https://www.rei.com/product/885305/ortlieb-bike-shopper-pannier-single
>
> Pat in DC
>
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 12:03:39 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Eric; and those come in red, too!
>>
>> I want something with a flap and something that can be adapted to an 
>> Ortlieb or Arkle-type "clamp" mounting system and be offset to the rear by 
>> about 3". I've owned at least 2 different grocery panniers of this design, 
>> and they work well on smooth unobstructed routes, but I've lost one such 
>> similar pannier when riding on a dirt road; either fell off on a bump, or 
>> perhaps was scraped off when I went through some path entry barriers. 
>> (Fortunately I had nothing particularly valuable in the pannier at the 
>> time.)
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:22 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Forgive me if these don't check all of your boxes, I don't have that 
>>> much processing power. But check 'em out! 
>>>
>>> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] New Roadinis will have clearance for 42 mm tires

[iamkeith]

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 4:30:32 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Missed it! Probably wouldn't have jumped anyway - I'm getting a strong 
> itch for a Platy - but it's cool!
>
> Joe Bernard
>
>
It must have lasted all of 3 minutes.  I clicked on the link the moment I 
saw the email update, but it was already gone.  Probably for the best 
because it would have looked awfully silly sitting next to my orange 
susie.  Congratulations to whoever got it.

Without wanting to "pile on,"  i do feel compelled to point out that this 
bike had become an instant holy grail, the moment they decided to switch to 
caliper brakes.  I'm sure the production Charlie will be a good bike and 
that they'll sell whatever they make.  But, for people like me who already 
own caliper-equipped, roadish bikes that are otherwise perfectly adequate, 
a charlie with canti brakes had just enough "extra" going for it to 
interest me.  With caliper brakes, I'll probably just double down on the 
Saluki and Ram, and deny myself the joys of the longer bike yet again.  
First world problem if there ever was one.


 

> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 1:52:05 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Joe, you need that Stainless Steel Clem!
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 4:04:44 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> The prototype is for sale on the Riv site. $2k complete, 57cm. If it 
>>> were a 60cm I would have bought it.
>>>
>>> I did some powerpoint measurements and estimate the seat height in the 
>>> photo to be 30.6", FWIW.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:38 AM Pancake  wrote:
>>>
 I was excited for a Charles H Gallop too, but no v-brakes means I’m 
 out. Wish I could snag that prototype, because that is just an ideal 
 setup. 

 But the Sam Hillborne also started with long reach brakes (like mine) 
 and eventually made its way to canti/V-brake posts so hopefully CHG goes 
 the same way and sooner than later. 

 Abe

 On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 09:38:06 UTC-8 Eric Daume wrote:

> Yeah, I was really looking forward to the CHG, but the long reach 
> brakes kill it for me. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Sunday, January 16, 2022, Johnny Alien  
> wrote:
>
>> I am a little shocked that they are apparently bringing that change 
>> over to the Charlie Gallop too. Instead of the V-brake/cantilever setup 
>> that the previous prototype had. Since they are designing their own V 
>> brakes that look to be quite nice it seems that they would push the 
>> bikes 
>> toward that. The only reason I can think that they would make that 
>> change 
>> is because sidepulls are a little more common on road style bikes. But 
>> making a decision based only on aesthetics seems counter to how 
>> Rivendell 
>> normally does things.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 11:48:38 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:
>>
>>> I'm so glad I bought my Roadini frame before this change! The 559 
>>> brakes do not work for me: poor power in dry conditions and unusable in 
>>> wet. I find that 33mm tires have plenty of cush and 42's would probably 
>>> create toe overlap on a 50 size frame. I'm grateful to have found a 
>>> Rivendell frame that works for me. 
>>> [image: DSC00040.JPG]
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:46:12 PM UTC-8 Eamon Nordquist 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I saw today the announcement that the new Roadinis are niw designed 
 for R559 brakes and will easily clear 42 mm tires. Good news, as far 
 as I’m 
 concerned! The only thing I am slightly sad about is that they aren’t 
 coming in grilver, which is THE color for the Roadini, in my opinion. 
 That 
 may be influenced by my love for the silver gray imron paint on early 
 80’s 
 Treks. Regardless, if I have a  job by then, I may have to get one.

 Eamon
 Seattle 

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Re: [RBW] Best grocery pannier? Nice lightweight wool cycling "jacket" or full-zip mid-weight jersey?

[Pat Smith]

Love my ortlieb bike shopper. Much better than a back roller for groceries. 
It used to come in red. I've got one in red

https://www.rei.com/product/885305/ortlieb-bike-shopper-pannier-single

Pat in DC

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 12:03:39 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Eric; and those come in red, too!
>
> I want something with a flap and something that can be adapted to an 
> Ortlieb or Arkle-type "clamp" mounting system and be offset to the rear by 
> about 3". I've owned at least 2 different grocery panniers of this design, 
> and they work well on smooth unobstructed routes, but I've lost one such 
> similar pannier when riding on a dirt road; either fell off on a bump, or 
> perhaps was scraped off when I went through some path entry barriers. 
> (Fortunately I had nothing particularly valuable in the pannier at the 
> time.)
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:22 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Forgive me if these don't check all of your boxes, I don't have that much 
>> processing power. But check 'em out! 
>>
>> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP
>>
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[RBW] Re: My Homer made the email update

[Roberta]

Wonderful and congratulations. My Homer rides great.  You’ll love it. 

Roberta

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 8:19:37 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Beautiful! I would say it looks perfect. Enjoy your new bike!
>
> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:26:40 PM UTC-6 John G. wrote:
>
>> Caught my first glimpse of my new Homer in the email update AND I AM 
>> PLEASED! Super excited to get my hands on this one.
>
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[RBW] Re: My Homer made the email update

[larson....@gmail.com]

Beautiful! I would say it looks perfect. Enjoy your new bike!

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:26:40 PM UTC-6 John G. wrote:

> Caught my first glimpse of my new Homer in the email update AND I AM 
> PLEASED! Super excited to get my hands on this one.

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