date:20220202

I have the Rene Herse Humptulips Ridge (is that how you spell it??) on my 
Bstone MB-2 and really like them! They are the quietest knobbies I’ve ever 
ridden on pavement.

> 
> On Feb 2, 2022, at 7:26 PM, Michael Morrissey  
> wrote:
> 
> If you think Marathon Supremes are prone to flats, just wait until you get 
> some Rene Herse tires! 
> 
> What about some nice Continentals? I have always had good luck with their 
> tires:
> https://bicyclewarehouse.com/products/continental-contact-plus-reflex-bike-tire-black
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 8:19:55 PM UTC-5 Lynn Haas wrote:
>> I moved to Iowa this year, and am experiencing my first Iowa winter. I never 
>> expected to spend this much time on a trainer. I even signed up for Zwift. 
>> Why is there a bike path inside a volcano?
>> 
>> Anyway, my Panaracer Paselas have a weird spot where the casing joins that 
>> goes thunk-thunk-thunk on the rollers. It's driving me nuts. I don't want to 
>> put a trainer tire on the bike. I want to believe that I'm going to go ride 
>> outside again sometime before the end of time.
>> 
>> What are the favored 26 inch road-ish tire favorites these days? I have had 
>> and disliked Schwalbes. My last set of Marathon Supremes picked up an 
>> ungodly array of laceration-inducing, afternoon-ruining, sharp objects. I 
>> was quite pleased with the Panaracers until I started riding inside. My 
>> downstairs neighbors are probably unhappy with the thunk-thunk-thunk, too. 
>> It definitely scares the cat. I'm on an MUSA Atlantis and could go up to 
>> about 40mm with my fender setup. Ideas?
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[RBW] Re: Favorite 26" tires

2022-02-02 Thread Michael Morrissey

If you think Marathon Supremes are prone to flats, just wait until you get 
some Rene Herse tires! 

What about some nice Continentals? I have always had good luck with their 
tires:
https://bicyclewarehouse.com/products/continental-contact-plus-reflex-bike-tire-black


On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 8:19:55 PM UTC-5 Lynn Haas wrote:

> I moved to Iowa this year, and am experiencing my first Iowa winter. I 
> never expected to spend this much time on a trainer. I even signed up for 
> Zwift. Why is there a bike path inside a volcano?
>
> Anyway, my Panaracer Paselas have a weird spot where the casing joins that 
> goes thunk-thunk-thunk on the rollers. It's driving me nuts. I don't want 
> to put a trainer tire on the bike. I want to believe that I'm going to go 
> ride outside again sometime before the end of time.
>
> What are the favored 26 inch road-ish tire favorites these days? I have 
> had and disliked Schwalbes. My last set of Marathon Supremes picked up an 
> ungodly array of laceration-inducing, afternoon-ruining, sharp objects. I 
> was quite pleased with the Panaracers until I started riding inside. My 
> downstairs neighbors are probably unhappy with the thunk-thunk-thunk, too. 
> It definitely scares the cat. I'm on an MUSA Atlantis and could go up to 
> about 40mm with my fender setup. Ideas?
>

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[RBW] Re: A few comments on the aesthetics of my new Homer

2022-02-02 Thread Roberta

Congratulations on NBD!  I adore my Homer and its ride. If you like it half 
as much as I like my 2019 model, you wil be one happy guy. 

Roberta 

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 8:51:37 PM UTC-5 John G. wrote:

> My Homer complete arrived today, a few days after my erstwhile Roadeo 
> began its journey back to its previous owner. This is the first time I 
> bought a complete build from Riv, and the experience was excellent. I 
> haven't really put any miles on the Homer, but in honor of New Bike Day, I 
> wanted to share a few notes on its looks. Some background: I've owned a few 
> Rivs (Hunqapillar, Atlantis, Quickbeam, Roadeo) and I wish I had kept every 
> one I've sold. The Roadeo was fantastic, but a bit small. The Atlantis was 
> great, but it wasn't a Roadeo. The Quickbeam I still own. I've always been 
> a bit overly precious about the Made in Taiwan frames, and wrongly assumed 
> they would never look as nice as a MUSA Riv. Man, I was wrong.
>
> Anyway! 
> - The compact geometry and long chainstays look really beautiful and 
> balanced in person. I've never been much of a fan of sloping top tubes, but 
> it really looks great on the Homer. The proportions just work.
> - The paint is far and away the best I've ever seen on a production Riv. 
> Way, way better than the paint on my Waterford Atlantis and Roadeo. It's 
> just...lustrous. It feels almost lit from within. Pics do not do it justice.
> - The build quality is superlative. 
>
> More on how it rides soon when I get some more miles on it! 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Updates on, and further questions regarding the Riv Road Standard 1995

2022-02-02 Thread Adrianna T

Thanks everyone who responded and who helped out. I didn’t have the chance to 
respond to each of you, but I read and appreciated all your messages. 

So today I went back with a trusted bike friend and we did the stand over. 
Somehow, this bike frame is a fit. Even though I am 5’5, I think my shorter 
torso helps with the reach. 

I will spend the next couple of weeks building it up with the help of some 
friends here in San Francisco, who will be helping me pick and locate parts. 

I will update my progress and post the finished product at some point. 

- Adrianna

> On Jan 29, 2022, at 4:00 PM, 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Adrianna
> 
> Here are my answers to your questions
> 
>  
> 
> --Question 1: What is your usual distance from pedal center to top of saddle?
> 
> Saddle Height (SH) is measured from the center of the BB spindle to the top 
> of the saddle along the seat tube.   Not to a pedal located to some position 
> in it’s rotation. 
> 
>  
> 
>  You can adjust the saddle so there is a slight bend in your leg when your on 
> the saddle and the pedal is at 5 o’clock, but it is NOT Saddle Height.  Pedal 
> at 5 o’clock typically puts the crank arm parallel to the seat tube.
> 
>  
> 
> Grant Peterson has stated Saddle Height is related to PBH by  SH = PBH – 
> 10 to 11 cm.  a few times in the Rivendell Readers.   For example, I’m 5’7”, 
> my PBH is 80.6cm and my SH is 70.5cm (set by someone watching pedal on my 
> bike in a trainer).  This difference is 10.1cm, very close to Grant.
> 
>  
> 
> SO if you your PBH, you can get a good approximation of your SH.
> 
>  
> 
> A 5’5” person typically uses a 170mm (17cm) crank arm.  Even if you used a 
> 165mm arm, the distance is reduced by only 5mm (0.5cm) which is very small 
> change compared to the 87cm distance from saddle to pedal given my 70cm SH 
> and I use a 17cm crank arm.  Crank arm length is typically a fine tuning  
> adjustment
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> --Question 2: What is your usual top of saddle (at seat tube centerline) and 
> handlebar heights?
> 
> BAR HEIGHT is typically referenced to the Top of the Saddle, not to the 
> Ground.  Your bars are in 1 of 3 positions:
> 
> Bars BELOW the Saddle by XXcm
> 
> Bars EVEN with the Saddle, 0cm difference
> 
> Bars ABOVE the Saddle by XXcm
> 
>  
> 
> I keep my bars EVEN with the Saddle to 1cm BELOW the Saddle, depending on my 
> fitness level.  I find I am comfortable in the drops and prefer the drops vs 
> the brake hoods.
> 
>  
> 
> 15 to 20 years ago Rivendell recommended bars even with saddle.  Now they say 
> Bars above saddle.   I feel my setting (Even to 1cm Below) are within their 
> recommendations.
> 
>  
> 
> The lower the bars, your muscles are mor effective, but there is more weight 
> is on your hands and your hands can get numb.  The higher the bars are, less 
> weight on the hands and you are more upright, but your muscles are less 
> effective
> 
>  
> 
> If I read you diagram correctly, your bars are 3.5” (9cm) BELOW the Saddle 
> (37” – 33.5”).  This is an extremely LOW bar position, typically used by the 
> pros.
> 
>  
> 
> -Question 3: What is your usual distance from top of saddle (at seat tube 
> centerline) to handlebar center?
> 
> My distance (Saddle where ST would come through to center of the stem clamp) 
> is 60.4cm on my 88 Voyageur (53.3cm STL, 54cm TTL, 74° STA, 71°HTA, 71cm SH) 
> with Bars EVEN with Saddle and 1 7cm stem length.   This along with a drop 
> bar reach of 11.5cm (C-E) puts my back at a 45° or slightly higher position 
> (back angle referenced to the horizontal).
> 
>  
> 
> This distance plus the Bar REACH results in your back at a certain angle to 
> the horizontal.   Long distances result in LOW back angles and mor weight on 
> your arms and hands,  Short distances result in HIGH back angles, you are 
> more upright and less weight on arms and hands.  15 to 20 years ago Rivendell 
> recommended a 45° back angle.  Now they recommend HIGHER angles, more 
> upright. I am comfortable with 45°, but it’s a personal choice.
> 
>  
> 
> Additional Info
> 
>  
> 
> I calculated the distance from Saddle to stem clamp for a 50cm Ramboiulet 
> since it’s STL and TTL matched the Road Standard.  The calculation assumes 
> bars EVEN with Saddle and a horizontal TT.
> 
>  
> 
> Assumed a 69sm Saddle Height for you based on my 71cm and 5’7” height vs your 
> 5’5”, a 7cm stem length and 26” x 32mm tires (radius = 31.6cm).   Here are 
> the 50cm Ramboilett geo, the STL was increased 1.9cm due to the 2° upsloping 
> TT, and assuming the geo table is Effective TTL
> 
>  
> 
> STL 51.9cm,  TTL 52cm,  STA 72.5°,  HTA 71°,  BBD 5.5cm,  Rake 4.25cm
> 
>  
> 
> Here are the results
> 
> Saddle to center of stem clamp,   59.0 cm
> 
> Trail,  6.4cm & Flop =2.0cm,  both match the geo table
> 
> Front Center,  56.3 cmYou will have 1.3cm of Toe Clip Overlap,  most 
> early Rivendells do
> 
>  
> 
> The minimum Saddle to stem distance

[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread Roberta

Hi Linda
I found Selle Anatomica more comfortable than the Brooks B17. Then, my sits 
bones experienced a Brooks B68 and are really happy!  I have that on Homer 
and Platy, and B67 (same top as b68) on my mixte commuter.
Miles of smiles,
Roberta

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 4:04:36 PM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:

> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
> Linda
>

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[RBW] Re: A few comments on the aesthetics of my new Homer

2022-02-02 Thread Roberta

Congratulations on NBD!  I adore my Homer and it’s ride. If you like it 
half as much as I like mine ‘(‘19) you wil be one happy guy. 

Roberta 

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 8:51:37 PM UTC-5 John G. wrote:

> My Homer complete arrived today, a few days after my erstwhile Roadeo 
> began its journey back to its previous owner. This is the first time I 
> bought a complete build from Riv, and the experience was excellent. I 
> haven't really put any miles on the Homer, but in honor of New Bike Day, I 
> wanted to share a few notes on its looks. Some background: I've owned a few 
> Rivs (Hunqapillar, Atlantis, Quickbeam, Roadeo) and I wish I had kept every 
> one I've sold. The Roadeo was fantastic, but a bit small. The Atlantis was 
> great, but it wasn't a Roadeo. The Quickbeam I still own. I've always been 
> a bit overly precious about the Made in Taiwan frames, and wrongly assumed 
> they would never look as nice as a MUSA Riv. Man, I was wrong.
>
> Anyway! 
> - The compact geometry and long chainstays look really beautiful and 
> balanced in person. I've never been much of a fan of sloping top tubes, but 
> it really looks great on the Homer. The proportions just work.
> - The paint is far and away the best I've ever seen on a production Riv. 
> Way, way better than the paint on my Waterford Atlantis and Roadeo. It's 
> just...lustrous. It feels almost lit from within. Pics do not do it justice.
> - The build quality is superlative. 
>
> More on how it rides soon when I get some more miles on it! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: A few comments on the aesthetics of my new Homer

2022-02-02 Thread Joe Bernard

Indeed, the paint shop in Taiwan is WAY underrated. Whoever is mixing that 
stuff takes the job SERIOUSLY. 

Joe Bernard

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 5:51:37 PM UTC-8 John G. wrote:

> My Homer complete arrived today, a few days after my erstwhile Roadeo 
> began its journey back to its previous owner. This is the first time I 
> bought a complete build from Riv, and the experience was excellent. I 
> haven't really put any miles on the Homer, but in honor of New Bike Day, I 
> wanted to share a few notes on its looks. Some background: I've owned a few 
> Rivs (Hunqapillar, Atlantis, Quickbeam, Roadeo) and I wish I had kept every 
> one I've sold. The Roadeo was fantastic, but a bit small. The Atlantis was 
> great, but it wasn't a Roadeo. The Quickbeam I still own. I've always been 
> a bit overly precious about the Made in Taiwan frames, and wrongly assumed 
> they would never look as nice as a MUSA Riv. Man, I was wrong.
>
> Anyway! 
> - The compact geometry and long chainstays look really beautiful and 
> balanced in person. I've never been much of a fan of sloping top tubes, but 
> it really looks great on the Homer. The proportions just work.
> - The paint is far and away the best I've ever seen on a production Riv. 
> Way, way better than the paint on my Waterford Atlantis and Roadeo. It's 
> just...lustrous. It feels almost lit from within. Pics do not do it justice.
> - The build quality is superlative. 
>
> More on how it rides soon when I get some more miles on it! 
>
>

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[RBW] A few comments on the aesthetics of my new Homer

2022-02-02 Thread John G.

My Homer complete arrived today, a few days after my erstwhile Roadeo began
its journey back to its previous owner. This is the first time I bought a
complete build from Riv, and the experience was excellent. I haven't really
put any miles on the Homer, but in honor of New Bike Day, I wanted to share
a few notes on its looks. Some background: I've owned a few Rivs
(Hunqapillar, Atlantis, Quickbeam, Roadeo) and I wish I had kept every one
I've sold. The Roadeo was fantastic, but a bit small. The Atlantis was
great, but it wasn't a Roadeo. The Quickbeam I still own. I've always been
a bit overly precious about the Made in Taiwan frames, and wrongly assumed
they would never look as nice as a MUSA Riv. Man, I was wrong.

Anyway!
- The compact geometry and long chainstays look really beautiful and
balanced in person. I've never been much of a fan of sloping top tubes, but
it really looks great on the Homer. The proportions just work.
- The paint is far and away the best I've ever seen on a production Riv.
Way, way better than the paint on my Waterford Atlantis and Roadeo. It's
just...lustrous. It feels almost lit from within. Pics do not do it justice.
- The build quality is superlative.

More on how it rides soon when I get some more miles on it!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite 26" tires

2022-02-02 Thread Lynn Haas

I have. They look nice. Are they $148 nice? 

Lynn

> On Feb 2, 2022, at 7:33 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
> Have you looked at Rene Herse? 

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Re: [RBW] Favorite 26" tires

2022-02-02 Thread Jon Dukeman

Contact your bike shop they can get tires made to use on a trainer. Save
your good tires for the road


On Wed, Feb 2, 2022, 6:20 PM Lynn Haas  wrote:

> I moved to Iowa this year, and am experiencing my first Iowa winter. I
> never expected to spend this much time on a trainer. I even signed up for
> Zwift. Why is there a bike path inside a volcano?
>
> Anyway, my Panaracer Paselas have a weird spot where the casing joins that
> goes thunk-thunk-thunk on the rollers. It's driving me nuts. I don't want
> to put a trainer tire on the bike. I want to believe that I'm going to go
> ride outside again sometime before the end of time.
>
> What are the favored 26 inch road-ish tire favorites these days? I have
> had and disliked Schwalbes. My last set of Marathon Supremes picked up an
> ungodly array of laceration-inducing, afternoon-ruining, sharp objects. I
> was quite pleased with the Panaracers until I started riding inside. My
> downstairs neighbors are probably unhappy with the thunk-thunk-thunk, too.
> It definitely scares the cat. I'm on an MUSA Atlantis and could go up to
> about 40mm with my fender setup. Ideas?
>
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[RBW] Re: Favorite 26" tires

2022-02-02 Thread Eric Marth

Have you looked at Rene Herse? 

https://www.renehersecycles.com/product-category/components/tires/26-inch/

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 8:19:55 PM UTC-5 Lynn Haas wrote:

> I moved to Iowa this year, and am experiencing my first Iowa winter. I 
> never expected to spend this much time on a trainer. I even signed up for 
> Zwift. Why is there a bike path inside a volcano?
>
> Anyway, my Panaracer Paselas have a weird spot where the casing joins that 
> goes thunk-thunk-thunk on the rollers. It's driving me nuts. I don't want 
> to put a trainer tire on the bike. I want to believe that I'm going to go 
> ride outside again sometime before the end of time.
>
> What are the favored 26 inch road-ish tire favorites these days? I have 
> had and disliked Schwalbes. My last set of Marathon Supremes picked up an 
> ungodly array of laceration-inducing, afternoon-ruining, sharp objects. I 
> was quite pleased with the Panaracers until I started riding inside. My 
> downstairs neighbors are probably unhappy with the thunk-thunk-thunk, too. 
> It definitely scares the cat. I'm on an MUSA Atlantis and could go up to 
> about 40mm with my fender setup. Ideas?
>

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[RBW] Favorite 26" tires

2022-02-02 Thread Lynn Haas

I moved to Iowa this year, and am experiencing my first Iowa winter. I 
never expected to spend this much time on a trainer. I even signed up for 
Zwift. Why is there a bike path inside a volcano?

Anyway, my Panaracer Paselas have a weird spot where the casing joins that 
goes thunk-thunk-thunk on the rollers. It's driving me nuts. I don't want 
to put a trainer tire on the bike. I want to believe that I'm going to go 
ride outside again sometime before the end of time.

What are the favored 26 inch road-ish tire favorites these days? I have had 
and disliked Schwalbes. My last set of Marathon Supremes picked up an 
ungodly array of laceration-inducing, afternoon-ruining, sharp objects. I 
was quite pleased with the Panaracers until I started riding inside. My 
downstairs neighbors are probably unhappy with the thunk-thunk-thunk, too. 
It definitely scares the cat. I'm on an MUSA Atlantis and could go up to 
about 40mm with my fender setup. Ideas?

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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread Linda G

Lesli,
That photo looks like it may be the B68S that is no longer available. A 
couple of others have recommended it as well. Too bad but I'll keep my eyes 
open for something similar.
Linda

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 3:44:43 PM UTC-8 Lesli Larson wrote:

> I used a wider Brooks saddle that was "pre-softened" and came with a 
> slightly textured or weatherized top. I'm not sure if they still make this 
> model. The only one I see with a similar profile comes with springs: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/2495391987/in/album-72157605078010434/
>
> I tend to like the wider top of the Brooks for more upright city riding. 
>
> I also like the Pearl from Rivet cycles: 
> https://rivetcycleworks.com/product/the-pearl/
>
> Best,
>
> Lesli 
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:04:36 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:
>
>> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
>> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
>> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
>> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
>> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
>> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
>> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
>> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
>> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
>> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
>> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
>> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
>> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
>> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
>> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
>> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
>> Linda
>>
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Re: [RBW] What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread Richard Rose

If you can find a dealer for SQ Labs I would check them out. At the very least 
you can give their website a look & order their free fit kit. I did the fit 
kit, figured out my suggested size & preferred riding position & found the 
recommended saddle. Then I stumbled into a used one. It is the most comfortable 
saddle I have used in 45 years of cycling. I know everyone is different but I 
would tell anyone to give them a try. I was really tempted to give a Brooks a 
try (based on looks alone) on my Clem but did not want to risk the $$$ when I 
had a saddle I liked so much.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2022, at 4:09 PM, Jay Lonner  wrote:
> 
> My wife likes the B68S on her Cheviot. 
> 
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
> 
> Sent from my Atari 400
> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Joe Mullins  wrote:
>>> 
>> My better half has a Brooks C-19 on her Platypus with albatross bars. She 
>> likes it!
>> 
>>> 
 On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Linda G  wrote:
 
>>> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
>>> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
>>> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
>>> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
>>> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
>>> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
>>> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
>>> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
>>> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
>>> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
>>> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
>>> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
>>> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
>>> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
>>> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
>>> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
>>> Linda
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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread Lesli Larson

I used a wider Brooks saddle that was "pre-softened" and came with a 
slightly textured or weatherized top. I'm not sure if they still make this 
model. The only one I see with a similar profile comes with 
springs: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/2495391987/in/album-72157605078010434/

I tend to like the wider top of the Brooks for more upright city riding. 

I also like the Pearl from Rivet 
cycles: https://rivetcycleworks.com/product/the-pearl/

Best,

Lesli 

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:04:36 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:

> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
> Linda
>

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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread Ryan

When I ordered my mixte from Riv late 2015 , I got the Brooks Select B-17 
model.

Linda, I definitely hear you about baggy shorts catching on the nose of the 
saddle and I've done that more than once ; not a problem with a saddle 
cover in wet weather however. Not too much of an issue when I wear those 
Levi commuter shorts and I feel I really should acquire some more of those 
shorts; that gusset helps although a Google search reveals that I might be 
SOL .

That being said, I did use Avocet touring gel saddles in the late eighties 
but got to dislike them. I did like the Avocet racing saddle specced with 
the X0-1, however. Since 1997 I've been using Brooks B-17 Standards and the 
fancier ones, and I have an old Ideale 90 on my PX-10 , equivalent to the 
old Brooks professionals. I had a woman's model B-17 that I didn't like(too 
short, too wide) , and since it was in good shape, sold it to a list 
member. Aside for baggy shorts catching on the nose I do like B-17's a lot 
. I feel like the leather used on the new B-17's is not as robust as older 
models...as a matter of fact my early 70's Ideale is still in terrific 
shape with minimal maintenance. I remember when I had my Peugeot sitting in 
the bedroom under the south-facing window, I noticed the saddle looked dry, 
and smeared Vaseline over it , because that was what I had available. My 
son was just a baby then , hence the Vaseline.

Good luck in your search!

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 3:04:36 PM UTC-6 Linda G wrote:

> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
> Linda
>

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[RBW] FS: Soma Sparrow 52cm silver handlebars

2022-02-02 Thread eddietheflay

Please respond to eddie dot flayer at att dot net

Next to new with a couple of minor scratches where levers were installed.

Like this:

https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/soma-handlebar-sparrow-3317?page=2=977

$55 net to me will get them shipped to you.


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[RBW] Re: Blue Homer Hilsen Cables

2022-02-02 Thread lconley

SimWorks just got a shipment of Nissen housings in Vintage French and 
Italian styles in some unique colors. My orange 1971 Gitane Tour de France 
has just been crying out for those French Light Blue housings... Must 
ResistMust Resist

Laing

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 4:00:27 PM UTC-5 four...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Looking to replace the housing on my Hilsen with Velo-Orange Cables and 
> they don’t have the grey that’s on my bike now… 
>
> What colors do you all have on a Hilsen blue bike? I kind of like the idea 
> of the brown, but…. 
>
> Chris 
>
> Make a space for people to come as they are and not have to just “fit in”

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[RBW] MUSA baggies on RIV site

I just noticed that the RIV site has S, M and XL baggies back up! Get ‘‘em 
while they last. 

And FWIW, I’ve never in my life gotten compliments on my pants and I got 3 the 
first time I wore mine to work. They are the most comfortable pants I own, on 
and off the bike. 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/musa-knicker-pants-brown?variant=40707481862255

Joe

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Re: [RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

Where do you live Linda? I believe Golden Saddle in Los Angeles has a C-19 demo 
saddle. 

> 
> On Feb 2, 2022, at 2:13 PM, Linda G  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the responses. 
> Bill: Excellent advice! I may end up following it.
> Laing: That B68s looks very good but I don't think Brooks makes it anymore. 
> It's not on their website that I could find. I seem to remember something 
> from one of the Riv newsletters about it being no longer available.
> Joyce: Thanks for your offer but I think the nose is too long on the Selle 
> Anatomicas.
> The other two ideas for Brooks saddles were also good. The C19 might work but 
> not sure I would spend the money since it's not as short as I like.
> Linda
> 
>> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:04:36 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:
>> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my non-Riv 
>> (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for may not 
>> exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run across. 
>> I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's touring 
>> saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
>> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
>> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to tie 
>> it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the Brooks 
>> and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't mind the 
>> modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 bikes, 
>> including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. The 
>> touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not interested in 
>> the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a short version I 
>> would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me since I catch 
>> clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes getting on and off 
>> the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
>> Linda
> 
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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread lconley

Yes, the B-68 is out of production, but I buy 2 or 3 brand new ones a year, 
they are out there - eBay usually and Bike Inn just had some a month or so 
ago. There is a brand new B-68 Imperial (with the laces) on eBay right now 
for an obscene price. I offered a $100 for it, which was rejected 
immediately. I have quit buying though - I have them on most of by bikes 
now. Once I tried a B-68 and decided it was the saddle for me, I kept an 
eye out for them.
I also have some Rivet Loveland saddles, which are basically the same size 
as the B-68 and have chrome rails. FYI - Rivet Saddle Works is owned and 
run by a woman if that is of interest.

Laing

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 5:13:07 PM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:

> Thanks for all the responses. 
> Bill: Excellent advice! I may end up following it.
> Laing: That B68s looks very good but I don't think Brooks makes it 
> anymore. It's not on their website that I could find. I seem to remember 
> something from one of the Riv newsletters about it being no longer 
> available.
> Joyce: Thanks for your offer but I think the nose is too long on the Selle 
> Anatomicas.
> The other two ideas for Brooks saddles were also good. The C19 might work 
> but not sure I would spend the money since it's not as short as I like.
> Linda
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:04:36 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:
>
>> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
>> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
>> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
>> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
>> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
>> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
>> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
>> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
>> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
>> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
>> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
>> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
>> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
>> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
>> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
>> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
>> Linda
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

2022-02-02 Thread Nikko in Oakland

https://glensfalls.craigslist.org/bik/d/east-poultney-rivendell-romulus-57cm/7435319702.html

Romulus in 57cm for $2000 in upstate New York, but can be shipped at buyers 
expense. 

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:10:26 AM UTC-8 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Clem L 59 in Indy: 
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7439900563.html
>  

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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread Linda G

Thanks for all the responses. 
Bill: Excellent advice! I may end up following it.
Laing: That B68s looks very good but I don't think Brooks makes it anymore. 
It's not on their website that I could find. I seem to remember something 
from one of the Riv newsletters about it being no longer available.
Joyce: Thanks for your offer but I think the nose is too long on the Selle 
Anatomicas.
The other two ideas for Brooks saddles were also good. The C19 might work 
but not sure I would spend the money since it's not as short as I like.
Linda

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:04:36 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:

> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
> Linda
>

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[RBW] Re: What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread Bill Lindsay

Speaking for all humans who have had to search and search for saddles that 
work for them:  Once you've found a saddle that works, stop caring what it 
looks like.  If you are sitting on it, you aren't looking at it!  :)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:04:36 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:

> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
> Linda
>

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Re: [RBW] What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread JAS

Hi Linda!  I have used many different saddles over the years including 
Avocet and several Terry models.  I was never comfortable!  When I 
discovered Selle Anatomica, it changed everything.  It's the only saddle I 
ride now and have them on my Bike Friday with drop bars (touring bike) and 
both the Platy and Clem L.  I've always had the model with the steel rails 
(X1) and decided to get the newer version (X2) with the aluminum frame for 
my Platy.  OOPS!  The rail length is shorter on the X2 and I couldn't get 
enough set-back.  Rather than replace the seat-post, I ordered another X1 
and am very happy with it.  

Check out their website; they often have returns or seconds on their sale 
page under "garage sale."  

If you're interested, I'd sell you my X2 (tan color "tool leather with 
silver rivets") for $100 plus shipping. I installed it, rode it for 10 
miles and removed it from the bike so it's essentially brand new.  The 
underside has been waterproofed with SA saddle sauce, per manufacturer's 
directions.  I don't know the geometry of your bike so I can't comment on 
whether you'd have the same set-back issue that I had.  Contact me off-list 
if interested.

RivSisters,
Joyce

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 1:09:38 PM UTC-8 Jay Lonner wrote:

> My wife likes the B68S on her Cheviot. 
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Joe Mullins  wrote:
>
> My better half has a Brooks C-19 on her Platypus with albatross bars. She 
> likes it!
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Linda G  wrote:
>
> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to 
> tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the 
> Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't 
> mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 
> bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. 
> The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not 
> interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a 
> short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me 
> since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes 
> getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
> Linda
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Re: [RBW] What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread Jay Lonner

My wife likes the B68S on her Cheviot. 

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

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> On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Joe Mullins  wrote:
> 
> My better half has a Brooks C-19 on her Platypus with albatross bars. She 
> likes it!
> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Linda G  wrote:
>>> 
>> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my 
>> non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for 
>> may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run 
>> across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's 
>> touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that 
>> comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of 
>> the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to tie 
>> it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the Brooks 
>> and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't mind the 
>> modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 bikes, 
>> including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. The 
>> touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not interested in 
>> the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a short version I 
>> would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me since I catch 
>> clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes getting on and off 
>> the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
>> Linda
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Re: [RBW] What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

My better half has a Brooks C-19 on her Platypus with albatross bars. She likes 
it!

> 
> On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Linda G  wrote:
> 
> I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my non-Riv 
> (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for may not 
> exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run across. I've 
> tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's touring saddle. 
> The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that comfortable. The 
> slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of the problem. I 
> don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to tie it together 
> like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the Brooks and quite 
> comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't mind the modern look 
> of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2 bikes, including a Roadini, 
> but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x. The touring saddles are a 
> little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not interested in the Brookes with 
> springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a short version I would try that. 
> Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me since I catch clothing like baggy 
> shorts on the nose or it just makes getting on and off the bike more 
> difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
> Linda
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[RBW] What saddles are women using on their Riv mixtes?

2022-02-02 Thread Linda G

I am curious about this because I have tried different saddles on my
non-Riv (but similar) lugged steel Velo Orange mixte. What I am looking for
may not exist but someone may know of or be using a saddle I haven't run
across. I've tried a Brooks B17s, Terry Cite-x and an old Avocet women's
touring saddle. The honey brown B17s looks the best but is just not that
comfortable. The slippery finish and flared side skirts seem to be part of
the problem. I don't really want to punch holes in the skirts and try to
tie it together like some people do. The Cite-x is about the size of the
Brooks and quite comfortable but looks like an overstuffed sofa. I don't
mind the modern look of the Terry touring saddles I have on my other 2
bikes, including a Roadini, but I just don't like the look of the Cite-x.
The touring saddles are a little too narrow for the mixte. I'm not
interested in the Brookes with springs. If the Brooks Cambium came in a
short version I would try that. Normal length saddles feel unsafe for me
since I catch clothing like baggy shorts on the nose or it just makes
getting on and off the bike more difficult. Any experiences or thoughts?
Linda

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[RBW] Re: FS: Some wool

All items claimed. 
On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 12:39:26 PM UTC-6 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

> Rivendell wool beanie has been claimed. 
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 12:24:18 PM UTC-6 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>
>> I have a few things to pass along. 
>> Link to Pictures 
>> 
>>
>> First is a Stormy Kromer hat in Partridge Plaid. Size is 7 3/8. I never 
>> took to this style of cap in practice, but I like the idea of them. Some 
>> wear, but not a ton. $25 shipped. 
>>
>> Next is a red Rivendell possum wool beanie. I bought this for my partner, 
>> but her skin is too sensitive and gets itchy. Worn a couple of times around 
>> the house, maybe once to work. My receipt says the color is Pumpkin. $20 
>> shipped
>>
>> Last is a pair of Swobo merino wool polo shirts. I LOVED Swobo! They had 
>> such cool stuff. I wore a pair of these shirts as my only tops across the 
>> whole USA. I lost one in Idaho and went the rest of the trip with one and a 
>> free Adventure Cycling shirt. I bought these as the company was closing 
>> down, but the colors were too light and my nipples showed too much and I 
>> was self-conscious about it. One still has the tag, the other was worn 
>> briefly, both are wrinkly from being in a box. There is a tiny little run 
>> on the back tail area of the one without tags. Both are XXL's, made in 
>> Fiji. The thickness is about the same as the current Riv wool tops from 
>> Australia. $50 for the pair shipped. 
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

2022-02-02 Thread Dorothy C

Cat, which wheel size Roadini do you have?  I am running 650b 32mm Grand 
Bois Cypres with Velo Orange fenders. I just changed the rear brake to a 
Paul Racer, from Tektro R559, and I will be replacing the front brake with 
a Paul Racer also, when some spare parts arrive. I would like to be able to 
use 38’s even if I have to take the fenders off, as 650b / 32s are such a 
hard size to find. I got the current tires from Blue Lug in Japan. 

Dorothy in Los Angeles 

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:52:07 PM UTC-8 Catherina Gioino wrote:

> I love the Roadini's size and it doesn't at all feel sluggish to ride. For 
> context, I've only ever ridden steel-frame cheap Craigslist road bike finds 
> like Panasonic and more, or my Surly Crosscheck, so if anything, the 
> Roadini feels like a breeze. 
>
> I can absolutely vouch for that need for speed though-- my boyfriend is 
> constantly whirring past on his Clem but when we took a ride recently, he 
> was struggling to catch up. And for the tire clearance question-- I 
> switched my Vittoria 28mm Corsa tires to 38mm Rene Herse and they ride like 
> a charm
>
> Cat in Queens
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-31 at 4.00.06 PM.png]
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 3:44:07 PM UTC-5 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I love my Roadini (size 57, I'm 87 PBH) with wavie bars; it is one of my 
>> favorite bikes. I had tried to write a list of reasons but really it's just 
>> this one:
>>  
>> - it is a blast to ride 
>>
>> I'm sorry I can't answer the "sluggish and heavy" question, it feels 
>> pretty fun to me. My experience is surely different from a lighter and 
>> racier rider though. IMHO this comment from Bill Lindsay is very wise: 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/_I9Rs_7FmfE/m/eu1birv2BQAJ 
>> (Hope it's OK to re-link Bill)
>>
>> Sounds like you just need to find someone nearby with road-ish (Homer, 
>> Sam, Road*, etc) Riv and try it out. Only way to know for sure. It's a 
>> frustrating place to be (remembering back before I had a chance to ride any 
>> Riv) but fixable probably before the next Roadini shipment. They do still 
>> have Homers in stock. Definitely call and talk to Riv and see what they say 
>> too.
>>
>> mike in atx
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Hillborne PRICE DROP

2022-02-02 Thread John Bokman

Riv has changed their sizing on these (and other) frames over the years. 
This looks to be the first gen Sam because the headtube is solid orange - 
not cream accent. Meaning, the 60cm frame is quite a bit bigger than the 
current 58cm frame. Unless I'm mistaken, it would correlate more closely to 
the now 62cm frame.

I owned a 2009 60cm frame  (solid orange, no cream accent) and found it too 
big (long). In retrospect the 56cm (next size down) would have been 
perfect. I "know" this, because I now ride a 58cm Sam (roughly the "same" 
size of the old 56) that is "perfect".



On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 7:52:04 AM UTC-8 MoVelo wrote:

> Ahmed
>
> Your Hillborne looks great. I am in the market for one but in a larger 
> size. If your's was a 58 I'd be all over it.
>
> I do see there is a 60cm on Ebay with a starting bid of $2200.00. I am a 
> little confused about that size tho as the chart I have shows a 58 and then 
> a 62. I confess I haven't been following the Sams as closely as some on 
> this list have, and so I don't have a good grasp on the heritage. Rivendell 
> does seem to refine the bikes as the years go on. I noticed the current 
> generation as shown on their website has different seat stay connections as 
> yours. 
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/165308900740?hash=item267d2da584:g:qd4AAOSwF0Vh9upF
>
> You might follow it to see where the bidding ends up to get an idea of 
> what they bring there. 
>
> Good luck.
>
> JP in Central NE
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:11:32 AM UTC-6 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>
>> I hope you find a buyer, Ahmed. 
>> I hope folks realize that the Hillborne was sort of the bike that started 
>> the whole modern era of Rivendells, as I don't feel like the Hillborne gets 
>> as much regard as the newer, evolved models. The Bomba came first as a 6 
>> degree upsloping tubed bike, but the Hillborne was the first of the Taiwan 
>> expanded geometry bicycles that have come to exemplify Rivendell (this is 
>> according to my fuzzy memory). It was meant to be a do all, beat it up, 
>> ride it like crazy, never repaint it (I recall grant saying he hoped nobody 
>> would ever repaint one), and pass it down to your children bike. I honestly 
>> think anyone looking for a Riv and fits this 55cm Hillborne couldn't find a 
>> better bicycle. I have had a super secret 56cm double TT Waterford 
>> Hillborne since 2011 and it is a never sell for me. It was my primary 
>> touring bicycle for a number of years, also commuter, shopper, and do all 
>> bicycle. It can use drops or uprights. Folks seem to want a Riv mixte or 
>> droptube, and I have had both and sold them both because I never actually 
>> used the lower tube for stepping "in" to the bicycle, I still throw my leg 
>> over, and with the expanded geometry of the Hillborne, you don't have to 
>> worry about standover anyway.
>> Also, and this is again only my experience, I never got along with the 
>> long wheelbase that the newer Riv's have. I much prefer the ride of my old 
>> style Atlantis, Hillborne, and Simpleone. 
>> I hope this helps anyone on the fence. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 11:10:33 PM UTC-6 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Chris!!! 
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 7:20 PM Chris Halasz  wrote:
>>>
 Ahmed 

 The Sam is a very nice build and color - just one size too small for 
 me. 

 On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> PRICE DROP. I got absolutely no response at all so. guess I am 
> too high? OR No one wants a Hillborne these days? Make a reasonable 
> offer. 
>
> Ahmed in San Mateo
>
> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir 
> wrote:
>
>> Let's try this again
>> For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity 
>> Atlas 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto 
>> seatpost 
>> and Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape with 
>> stem 
>> shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles on 
>> it. 
>> Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and 
>> prefer 
>> local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on Craigslist. 
>>
>> thanks
>> Ahmed in San Mateo, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Hillborne PRICE DROP

2022-02-02 Thread Ahmed Elgasseir

Thanks so much for the tip JP!

A

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 7:52 AM MoVelo  wrote:

> Ahmed
>
> Your Hillborne looks great. I am in the market for one but in a larger
> size. If your's was a 58 I'd be all over it.
>
> I do see there is a 60cm on Ebay with a starting bid of $2200.00. I am a
> little confused about that size tho as the chart I have shows a 58 and then
> a 62. I confess I haven't been following the Sams as closely as some on
> this list have, and so I don't have a good grasp on the heritage. Rivendell
> does seem to refine the bikes as the years go on. I noticed the current
> generation as shown on their website has different seat stay connections as
> yours.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/165308900740?hash=item267d2da584:g:qd4AAOSwF0Vh9upF
>
> You might follow it to see where the bidding ends up to get an idea of
> what they bring there.
>
> Good luck.
>
> JP in Central NE
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:11:32 AM UTC-6 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>
>> I hope you find a buyer, Ahmed.
>> I hope folks realize that the Hillborne was sort of the bike that started
>> the whole modern era of Rivendells, as I don't feel like the Hillborne gets
>> as much regard as the newer, evolved models. The Bomba came first as a 6
>> degree upsloping tubed bike, but the Hillborne was the first of the Taiwan
>> expanded geometry bicycles that have come to exemplify Rivendell (this is
>> according to my fuzzy memory). It was meant to be a do all, beat it up,
>> ride it like crazy, never repaint it (I recall grant saying he hoped nobody
>> would ever repaint one), and pass it down to your children bike. I honestly
>> think anyone looking for a Riv and fits this 55cm Hillborne couldn't find a
>> better bicycle. I have had a super secret 56cm double TT Waterford
>> Hillborne since 2011 and it is a never sell for me. It was my primary
>> touring bicycle for a number of years, also commuter, shopper, and do all
>> bicycle. It can use drops or uprights. Folks seem to want a Riv mixte or
>> droptube, and I have had both and sold them both because I never actually
>> used the lower tube for stepping "in" to the bicycle, I still throw my leg
>> over, and with the expanded geometry of the Hillborne, you don't have to
>> worry about standover anyway.
>> Also, and this is again only my experience, I never got along with the
>> long wheelbase that the newer Riv's have. I much prefer the ride of my old
>> style Atlantis, Hillborne, and Simpleone.
>> I hope this helps anyone on the fence.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 11:10:33 PM UTC-6 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Chris!!!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 7:20 PM Chris Halasz  wrote:
>>>
 Ahmed

 The Sam is a very nice build and color - just one size too small for
 me.

 On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> PRICE DROP. I got absolutely no response at all so. guess I am
> too high? OR No one wants a Hillborne these days? Make a reasonable offer.
>
> Ahmed in San Mateo
>
> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir
> wrote:
>
>> Let's try this again
>> For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity
>> Atlas 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto seatpost
>> and Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape with 
>> stem
>> shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles on 
>> it.
>> Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and 
>> prefer
>> local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on Craigslist.
>>
>> thanks
>> Ahmed in San Mateo, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Hillborne PRICE DROP

2022-02-02 Thread Ahmed Elgasseir

Thanks a lot Ricky! My go to is my MUSA Atlantis from back in 2014 and I
agree with you, I am not a fan of the new longer wheelbase.

A

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 7:11 AM E. Ricky Creek 
wrote:

> I hope you find a buyer, Ahmed.
> I hope folks realize that the Hillborne was sort of the bike that started
> the whole modern era of Rivendells, as I don't feel like the Hillborne gets
> as much regard as the newer, evolved models. The Bomba came first as a 6
> degree upsloping tubed bike, but the Hillborne was the first of the Taiwan
> expanded geometry bicycles that have come to exemplify Rivendell (this is
> according to my fuzzy memory). It was meant to be a do all, beat it up,
> ride it like crazy, never repaint it (I recall grant saying he hoped nobody
> would ever repaint one), and pass it down to your children bike. I honestly
> think anyone looking for a Riv and fits this 55cm Hillborne couldn't find a
> better bicycle. I have had a super secret 56cm double TT Waterford
> Hillborne since 2011 and it is a never sell for me. It was my primary
> touring bicycle for a number of years, also commuter, shopper, and do all
> bicycle. It can use drops or uprights. Folks seem to want a Riv mixte or
> droptube, and I have had both and sold them both because I never actually
> used the lower tube for stepping "in" to the bicycle, I still throw my leg
> over, and with the expanded geometry of the Hillborne, you don't have to
> worry about standover anyway.
> Also, and this is again only my experience, I never got along with the
> long wheelbase that the newer Riv's have. I much prefer the ride of my old
> style Atlantis, Hillborne, and Simpleone.
> I hope this helps anyone on the fence.
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 11:10:33 PM UTC-6 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>
>> Thanks Chris!!!
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 7:20 PM Chris Halasz  wrote:
>>
>>> Ahmed
>>>
>>> The Sam is a very nice build and color - just one size too small for me.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>>
 PRICE DROP. I got absolutely no response at all so. guess I am
 too high? OR No one wants a Hillborne these days? Make a reasonable offer.

 Ahmed in San Mateo

 On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Let's try this again
> For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity Atlas
> 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto seatpost and
> Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape with stem
> shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles on it.
> Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and prefer
> local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on Craigslist.
>
> thanks
> Ahmed in San Mateo, CA
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Some wool

Rivendell wool beanie has been claimed. 

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 12:24:18 PM UTC-6 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

> I have a few things to pass along. 
> Link to Pictures 
> 
>
> First is a Stormy Kromer hat in Partridge Plaid. Size is 7 3/8. I never 
> took to this style of cap in practice, but I like the idea of them. Some 
> wear, but not a ton. $25 shipped. 
>
> Next is a red Rivendell possum wool beanie. I bought this for my partner, 
> but her skin is too sensitive and gets itchy. Worn a couple of times around 
> the house, maybe once to work. My receipt says the color is Pumpkin. $20 
> shipped
>
> Last is a pair of Swobo merino wool polo shirts. I LOVED Swobo! They had 
> such cool stuff. I wore a pair of these shirts as my only tops across the 
> whole USA. I lost one in Idaho and went the rest of the trip with one and a 
> free Adventure Cycling shirt. I bought these as the company was closing 
> down, but the colors were too light and my nipples showed too much and I 
> was self-conscious about it. One still has the tag, the other was worn 
> briefly, both are wrinkly from being in a box. There is a tiny little run 
> on the back tail area of the one without tags. Both are XXL's, made in 
> Fiji. The thickness is about the same as the current Riv wool tops from 
> Australia. $50 for the pair shipped. 
>
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[RBW] FS: Some wool

I have a few things to pass along.
Link to Pictures

First is a Stormy Kromer hat in Partridge Plaid. Size is 7 3/8. I never
took to this style of cap in practice, but I like the idea of them. Some
wear, but not a ton. $25 shipped.

Next is a red Rivendell possum wool beanie. I bought this for my partner,
but her skin is too sensitive and gets itchy. Worn a couple of times around
the house, maybe once to work. My receipt says the color is Pumpkin. $20
shipped

Last is a pair of Swobo merino wool polo shirts. I LOVED Swobo! They had
such cool stuff. I wore a pair of these shirts as my only tops across the
whole USA. I lost one in Idaho and went the rest of the trip with one and a
free Adventure Cycling shirt. I bought these as the company was closing
down, but the colors were too light and my nipples showed too much and I
was self-conscious about it. One still has the tag, the other was worn
briefly, both are wrinkly from being in a box. There is a tiny little run
on the back tail area of the one without tags. Both are XXL's, made in
Fiji. The thickness is about the same as the current Riv wool tops from
Australia. $50 for the pair shipped.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Hillborne PRICE DROP

Demand comes and goes. I recall trying to sell my first-gen SH frameset,
and this with lowrider brazeons added to enhance value, and getting no
interest at all on this or the boblist. I finally had my brother sell it in
CA. Then, wait a bit, and SHs posted for sale are snapped up.

$2,900 does seem a bit high from the other offer prices I dimly recall
seeing.

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 8:11 AM E. Ricky Creek 
wrote:

> I hope you find a buyer, Ahmed.
> I hope folks realize that the Hillborne was sort of the bike that started
> the whole modern era of Rivendells, as I don't feel like the Hillborne gets
> as much regard as the newer, evolved models. The Bomba came first as a 6
> degree upsloping tubed bike, but the Hillborne was the first of the Taiwan
> expanded geometry bicycles that have come to exemplify Rivendell (this is
> according to my fuzzy memory). It was meant to be a do all, beat it up,
> ride it like crazy, never repaint it (I recall grant saying he hoped nobody
> would ever repaint one), and pass it down to your children bike. I honestly
> think anyone looking for a Riv and fits this 55cm Hillborne couldn't find a
> better bicycle. I have had a super secret 56cm double TT Waterford
> Hillborne since 2011 and it is a never sell for me. It was my primary
> touring bicycle for a number of years, also commuter, shopper, and do all
> bicycle. It can use drops or uprights. Folks seem to want a Riv mixte or
> droptube, and I have had both and sold them both because I never actually
> used the lower tube for stepping "in" to the bicycle, I still throw my leg
> over, and with the expanded geometry of the Hillborne, you don't have to
> worry about standover anyway.
> Also, and this is again only my experience, I never got along with the
> long wheelbase that the newer Riv's have. I much prefer the ride of my old
> style Atlantis, Hillborne, and Simpleone.
> I hope this helps anyone on the fence.
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 11:10:33 PM UTC-6 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>
>> Thanks Chris!!!
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 7:20 PM Chris Halasz  wrote:
>>
>>> Ahmed
>>>
>>> The Sam is a very nice build and color - just one size too small for me.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>>
 PRICE DROP. I got absolutely no response at all so. guess I am
 too high? OR No one wants a Hillborne these days? Make a reasonable offer.

 Ahmed in San Mateo

 On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Let's try this again
> For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity Atlas
> 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto seatpost and
> Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape with stem
> shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles on it.
> Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and prefer
> local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on Craigslist.
>
> thanks
> Ahmed in San Mateo, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Hillborne PRICE DROP

2022-02-02 Thread MoVelo

Ahmed

Your Hillborne looks great. I am in the market for one but in a larger 
size. If your's was a 58 I'd be all over it.

I do see there is a 60cm on Ebay with a starting bid of $2200.00. I am a 
little confused about that size tho as the chart I have shows a 58 and then 
a 62. I confess I haven't been following the Sams as closely as some on 
this list have, and so I don't have a good grasp on the heritage. Rivendell 
does seem to refine the bikes as the years go on. I noticed the current 
generation as shown on their website has different seat stay connections as 
yours. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165308900740?hash=item267d2da584:g:qd4AAOSwF0Vh9upF

You might follow it to see where the bidding ends up to get an idea of what 
they bring there. 

Good luck.

JP in Central NE

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 9:11:32 AM UTC-6 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

> I hope you find a buyer, Ahmed. 
> I hope folks realize that the Hillborne was sort of the bike that started 
> the whole modern era of Rivendells, as I don't feel like the Hillborne gets 
> as much regard as the newer, evolved models. The Bomba came first as a 6 
> degree upsloping tubed bike, but the Hillborne was the first of the Taiwan 
> expanded geometry bicycles that have come to exemplify Rivendell (this is 
> according to my fuzzy memory). It was meant to be a do all, beat it up, 
> ride it like crazy, never repaint it (I recall grant saying he hoped nobody 
> would ever repaint one), and pass it down to your children bike. I honestly 
> think anyone looking for a Riv and fits this 55cm Hillborne couldn't find a 
> better bicycle. I have had a super secret 56cm double TT Waterford 
> Hillborne since 2011 and it is a never sell for me. It was my primary 
> touring bicycle for a number of years, also commuter, shopper, and do all 
> bicycle. It can use drops or uprights. Folks seem to want a Riv mixte or 
> droptube, and I have had both and sold them both because I never actually 
> used the lower tube for stepping "in" to the bicycle, I still throw my leg 
> over, and with the expanded geometry of the Hillborne, you don't have to 
> worry about standover anyway.
> Also, and this is again only my experience, I never got along with the 
> long wheelbase that the newer Riv's have. I much prefer the ride of my old 
> style Atlantis, Hillborne, and Simpleone. 
> I hope this helps anyone on the fence. 
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 11:10:33 PM UTC-6 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>
>> Thanks Chris!!! 
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 7:20 PM Chris Halasz  wrote:
>>
>>> Ahmed 
>>>
>>> The Sam is a very nice build and color - just one size too small for me. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>>
 PRICE DROP. I got absolutely no response at all so. guess I am 
 too high? OR No one wants a Hillborne these days? Make a reasonable offer. 

 Ahmed in San Mateo

 On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Let's try this again
> For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity Atlas 
> 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto seatpost and 
> Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape with stem 
> shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles on 
> it. 
> Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and 
> prefer 
> local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on Craigslist. 
>
> thanks
> Ahmed in San Mateo, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Hillborne PRICE DROP

I hope you find a buyer, Ahmed. 
I hope folks realize that the Hillborne was sort of the bike that started 
the whole modern era of Rivendells, as I don't feel like the Hillborne gets 
as much regard as the newer, evolved models. The Bomba came first as a 6 
degree upsloping tubed bike, but the Hillborne was the first of the Taiwan 
expanded geometry bicycles that have come to exemplify Rivendell (this is 
according to my fuzzy memory). It was meant to be a do all, beat it up, 
ride it like crazy, never repaint it (I recall grant saying he hoped nobody 
would ever repaint one), and pass it down to your children bike. I honestly 
think anyone looking for a Riv and fits this 55cm Hillborne couldn't find a 
better bicycle. I have had a super secret 56cm double TT Waterford 
Hillborne since 2011 and it is a never sell for me. It was my primary 
touring bicycle for a number of years, also commuter, shopper, and do all 
bicycle. It can use drops or uprights. Folks seem to want a Riv mixte or 
droptube, and I have had both and sold them both because I never actually 
used the lower tube for stepping "in" to the bicycle, I still throw my leg 
over, and with the expanded geometry of the Hillborne, you don't have to 
worry about standover anyway.
Also, and this is again only my experience, I never got along with the long 
wheelbase that the newer Riv's have. I much prefer the ride of my old style 
Atlantis, Hillborne, and Simpleone. 
I hope this helps anyone on the fence. 

On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 11:10:33 PM UTC-6 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:

> Thanks Chris!!! 
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 7:20 PM Chris Halasz  wrote:
>
>> Ahmed 
>>
>> The Sam is a very nice build and color - just one size too small for me. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 1:06:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>
>>> PRICE DROP. I got absolutely no response at all so. guess I am 
>>> too high? OR No one wants a Hillborne these days? Make a reasonable offer. 
>>>
>>> Ahmed in San Mateo
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 6:22:31 PM UTC-8 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>>
 Let's try this again
 For Sale my 55cm Hillborne. Purchased in 2019 from Riv. Velocity Atlas 
 700c, Silver cranks and MKS pedals, Berthoud saddle, Nitto seatpost and 
 Nitto Dirtdrop stem, Crust/Nitto dropbars plus Brooks bartape with stem 
 shifter. Nitto front rack with Wald big basket. Only about 1k miles on it. 
 Selling to thin the herd and make room for another build. $2900 and prefer 
 local only. Would love to sell it here before I put it up on Craigslist. 

 thanks
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Re: [RBW] Shoes for winter riding

2022-02-02 Thread Den John

My two (€) cents:

I ordered a pair of Five Ten Trail Cross GTX because I was planning a ride 
in the snow on the Belgian High Fens (Hoge Venen). 
They didn't turn up on time, so I made do with what I already had for 
footwear: Specialized Rime MTB shoes, knee length sealskinz socks, and
Endura Neoprene overshoes. It worked OK: we were out for about 5 hours with 
a café stop half way, and I only really noticed cold feet towards the end. 
It was about -3°c up there, there was snow fall but not much wind.  

The Five Tens have since turned up and I've used them for a couple of 
commutes (30km each way). They seem OK so far, but it's not been especially 
cold or wet and certainly not snowy. They are one of the few flat pedal 
winter shoes out there (Vaude do something similar). Note that there seems 
to be a non-GTX version of the Trail Cross. 

I also looked at Vans MTE shoes, some of them seem to have flat enough 
soles for cycling. https://www.vans.eu/mte.html  Has anyone tried them?

Cheers,
Johnny

On Wednesday, 2 February 2022 at 09:17:15 UTC+1 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Well, if global warming fails to appear and we get nucular winter instead, 
> I'll look for an updated pair. As things stand now, we here in high desert 
> ABQ are lucky if we get a couple of decent snows per year, and rarely get 
> more than a week of lows low enough for wearing my old pair.
>
> Tho"  4" snow predicted for later today, and low of 5* Thurs night! I 
> hope to ride in the snow, but will stay inside until it warms up to at 
> least mid teens.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:42 PM Josh Brown  wrote:
>
>> "Do the models from the last 5 years use the same wrap-around neoprene 
>> sock?"
>>
>> Not the model I mentioned, which are more like a hiking boot with a stiff 
>> sole that can easily be used for walking around. 
>>
>> Josh in NYC
>>
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Re: [RBW] Shoes for winter riding

Well, if global warming fails to appear and we get nucular winter instead,
I'll look for an updated pair. As things stand now, we here in high desert
ABQ are lucky if we get a couple of decent snows per year, and rarely get
more than a week of lows low enough for wearing my old pair.

Tho"  4" snow predicted for later today, and low of 5* Thurs night! I
hope to ride in the snow, but will stay inside until it warms up to at
least mid teens.

On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:42 PM Josh Brown  wrote:

> "Do the models from the last 5 years use the same wrap-around neoprene
> sock?"
>
> Not the model I mentioned, which are more like a hiking boot with a stiff
> sole that can easily be used for walking around.
>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike-Trade Day - A(nother) Quickbeam

I'm chuffed by your chuffedness, and we all chuff along. It is a nice bike.

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 7:28 AM Patch T  wrote:

> Just as chuffed for your *Approve*, Patrick :) You've pointed out my
> favorite bits. Especially those bars, I've not found a *better* drop bar
> for me. But I really hate to disappoint: the photo/uneven ground is
> obscuring their actual ~1deg of uptilt, as I might be crazy but my hands do
> like the tiniest bit of angle. But 1 is basically 0, right? Still approve?
>
> No, I know, it would be the coolest set up fixed. I should really throw a
> 17t or 18t cog on the other side of that Suzue hub - I haven't ridden a lot
> of fixed, and not in a very long time.
>
> They make 3/32 fixed cogs, right?
>
> Patch,
> whose knees are already trembling in BK, NYC
> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 4:26:32 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I highly approved this build.
>>
>> Signed and certified by Patrick Moore.
>>
>> Hermaneutic: Mr. Patch chose the ineffably nice Maes Parallel bar, the
>> best bar in the universe, and he installed it properly with ends of hooks
>> strictly parallel to Mother Earth.
>>
>> The saddle-to-drop relationship is just right. (Metric: I like it and
>> would so set a bike up myself!)
>>
>> VO shiny fenders over plump but not obese tires.
>>
>> Patch: Is the drivetrain fixed or merely single speed? You can push your
>> overall score from 98.3275% to well over 100% by having a fixed drivetrain.
>>
>> In all seriousness (no!), that's lovely.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 7:28 AM Patch T  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bunch,
>>>
>>> *tl:dr - Kyle's Quickbeam was too big. Mine was maybe too small. We
>>> swapped. Photos.*
>>>
>>> I've ridden an orange Quickbeam for about 5 years. It's seen all sorts
>>> of builds, all sorts of rides, camping trips, commutes; the slow end of a
>>> toxic relationship and the start of a healthy one, an engagement, a
>>> cross-country move (again), a pandemic a career change... As you can
>>> imagine, I'm in love with the bike. My first and only Rivendell (so far)
>>> but I don't really feel the itch for another. Ok maybe a Mountain Mixte. Or
>>> Roadeo. Or Saluki, maybe. I digress.
>>>
>>> I sold a few frames so I could purchase it, used, from an angel named
>>> John who even let me pay in installments. I've learned a lot about bikes
>>> and about wrenching, but also about sizing in the short 5 years since - one
>>> thing I learned is that I should/could ride larger bikes than I thought.
>>>
>>> For a while it was my only bike. Kyle from Golden Saddle Cycles used to
>>> frequently catch me outside riding the QB back when I lived in LA, or when
>>> I visited his shop, and every time he would remind me he'd gladly purchase
>>> that bike when I'm ready to sell. You can imagine my answer - however, he
>>> never let up.
>>>
>>> Fast forward to cruising Instagram late last year, now living in NYC,
>>> and I saw that Kyle finally got his holy grail - a silver Quickbeam - but
>>> in a size too big for him. He thought he'd like to try out a French fit,
>>> but it didn't work out. So I wrote him, thinking his new-to-him 56 would
>>> fit me better (or, differently + nicely) than my beloved 54. He agreed, and
>>> we packed and shipped each other our frames (he had me ship his to Black
>>> Magic Paint!)
>>>
>>> I've spent the past month rebuilding; highlights include a TA crank,
>>> shiny VO fenders, Compass Maes Parallel bar, Swift rando bag, dyno
>>> lighting, Paul brakes (minimoto front, touring rear), 38mm Gravelking
>>> slicks.
>>>
>>> Was it worth the $80ish in shipping? Maybe. It's not necessarily *more*
>>> comfortable, but *differently* comfortable. I do like having a shorter
>>> stem, and less seatpost showing than before - that feeling of being *in*
>>> it, rather than *above* it. All in all - with the new color and different
>>> (again) parts - it's kinda like a new bike day, for under $100.
>>>
>>> Patch
>>> BK/NYC
>>>  [image: image3 (2).jpeg][image: image1 (16).jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB/WTT: Schwalbe SV14A (SV "FOURTEEN AY", not SV14 full stop) EL 650B X 38-48 tubes