Re: [RBW] Re: [Repainted] Bombadil on its Archetypal Route

[Jason Fuller]

SORCERY!

On Mon., Mar. 14, 2022, 7:48 p.m. 'WilletM' via RBW Owners Bunch, <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> I do seem to recall, Jason, having predicted (below) very precisely one of
> these pics back in late December when you let it slip that the Bombadil was
> out at the paint shop getting freshened up a bit.  I won't let it go to my
> head, though, as the likelihood of you posting lovely pics of a lovely
> bicycle in a lovely place is not all that unlikely, come to think of it.
> And for my next trick, I predict that we will be seeing more "lovely x 3"
> Bombadil pics in the near future as warm weather and sunshine sweep across
> the PNW.
>
> Willet M.
> -
>
> wille...@gmail.com<>
> Dec 29, 2021, 10:30:34 AM
>
> Sounds as though the Bombadil might be doing a stint in rehab???  Looking
> forward to seeing the eventual unveiling, which we know will be beautifully
> photographed (and probably involve a wooden rails-to-trails bridge in the
> backcountry and/or giant trees dripping with moss).
> -
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 9:47:33 PM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Did 50km of muddy, snowy double track and trails today and while I'm
>> absolutely smashed, the Bombadil is still shiny I don't understand.
>> Dirt won't stick to it. Goes to show what two coats of wet-sanded clearcoat
>> will do!
>>
>> [image: PXL_20220313_195356855.jpg]
>>
>> On Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 17:33:57 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I got a bit further today, thanks to the lack of snow.
>>>
>>> I stole the Albatross for the Charlie Gallop, because I knew the Wavie
>>> was always destined for this bike in the end. It feels very right with this
>>> setup - great control on the trail but also comfortable for the road. A
>>> fillet faceplate stem will eventually go on when I am able to procure one,
>>> and that's the final piece of the puzzle! Shifting is still fickle for some
>>> reason, and I'm hoping I just solved it by filing down the excess clearcoat
>>> on the derailleur hanger.  We'll see!
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20220226_204333039.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 11:04:18 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the kind words all!

 Brendon - my original plan was to use Jay's / Hunq green, but given
 there is no paint code available for it I gave some reference to the
 painter and he presented me with a pretty good range of color swatches from
 teal-ish greens to olive greens, all metallic as that was a criteria. So
 this green was chosen from a small sample and I honestly wasn't sure what
 it would look like on the frame!  I'm happy with it for sure though.

 Takashi - yep! After stripping the clear coat (which is clear
 powdercoat turns out! Much more robust than I expected, which ironically
 means if I knew that I'd probably have left it raw...).  He brazed the
 little adapter on and drilled a small hole near the front of the lower TT.
 So far, I haven't been able to get it to work which is alarming and
 upsetting.  I might enlist professionals soon!

 Bill - I knew I enjoy the shape from my Twenty, and the reach is a bit
 longer on the Bombadil but so far seems good!  I have the Billie and
 Albastache too and so far, the Albatross is my preference. I'd love to try
 the Choco's too but would need a longer stem

 Willet - wow, that means a lot! Thanks so much!

 John - Yeah to be honest, this build was with full understanding that I
 might go back to either the MAP bar or the Wavie bar, but I wanted to give
 these a proper try because I like the ergonomics of the bar end shifters vs
 on a thumbshifter pod. Mind you it's kind of annoying how common it is to
 bump the end of the bar and shift the gears by accident!  It was certainly
 a bit tricky to get the Moto's and the rack to play together and to be
 honest I still need to do some tweaking - the brake rubs the underside of
 the Y mount.  The rear Motolite is rubbing the fender, too.

 Eric - Happy to hear! Once I have it all dialed in I'll take some
 detail photos for sure - right now, it would just highlight all the small
 issues with the build haha.  Leah mentioned I should email it to Grant so
 maybe I'll send them both a note with a few photos!











 On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 10:05:04 UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Another great ride report, Jason! Thanks for sharing your writing with
> us. The
>
> The bike looks fantastic. I was an advocate for maintaining the clear
> coat but this looks incredible. Beautiful, subtle. Really well done.
>
> For selfish reasons I'd love to see a detailed gallery with close-up
> shots of breaks, pedals, hubs. How are those 

[RBW] Re: [Repainted] Bombadil on its Archetypal Route

['WilletM' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I do seem to recall, Jason, having predicted (below) very precisely one of 
these pics back in late December when you let it slip that the Bombadil was 
out at the paint shop getting freshened up a bit.  I won't let it go to my 
head, though, as the likelihood of you posting lovely pics of a lovely 
bicycle in a lovely place is not all that unlikely, come to think of it.  
And for my next trick, I predict that we will be seeing more "lovely x 3" 
Bombadil pics in the near future as warm weather and sunshine sweep across 
the PNW.

Willet M.
-

wille...@gmail.com<>
Dec 29, 2021, 10:30:34 AM

Sounds as though the Bombadil might be doing a stint in rehab???  Looking 
forward to seeing the eventual unveiling, which we know will be beautifully 
photographed (and probably involve a wooden rails-to-trails bridge in the 
backcountry and/or giant trees dripping with moss).
-

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 9:47:33 PM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Did 50km of muddy, snowy double track and trails today and while I'm 
> absolutely smashed, the Bombadil is still shiny I don't understand. 
> Dirt won't stick to it. Goes to show what two coats of wet-sanded clearcoat 
> will do! 
>
> [image: PXL_20220313_195356855.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 17:33:57 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I got a bit further today, thanks to the lack of snow.  
>>
>> I stole the Albatross for the Charlie Gallop, because I knew the Wavie 
>> was always destined for this bike in the end. It feels very right with this 
>> setup - great control on the trail but also comfortable for the road. A 
>> fillet faceplate stem will eventually go on when I am able to procure one, 
>> and that's the final piece of the puzzle! Shifting is still fickle for some 
>> reason, and I'm hoping I just solved it by filing down the excess clearcoat 
>> on the derailleur hanger.  We'll see! 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20220226_204333039.jpg]
>>
>> On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 11:04:18 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the kind words all! 
>>>
>>> Brendon - my original plan was to use Jay's / Hunq green, but given 
>>> there is no paint code available for it I gave some reference to the 
>>> painter and he presented me with a pretty good range of color swatches from 
>>> teal-ish greens to olive greens, all metallic as that was a criteria. So 
>>> this green was chosen from a small sample and I honestly wasn't sure what 
>>> it would look like on the frame!  I'm happy with it for sure though. 
>>>
>>> Takashi - yep! After stripping the clear coat (which is clear powdercoat 
>>> turns out! Much more robust than I expected, which ironically means if I 
>>> knew that I'd probably have left it raw...).  He brazed the little adapter 
>>> on and drilled a small hole near the front of the lower TT.  So far, I 
>>> haven't been able to get it to work which is alarming and upsetting.  I 
>>> might enlist professionals soon! 
>>>
>>> Bill - I knew I enjoy the shape from my Twenty, and the reach is a bit 
>>> longer on the Bombadil but so far seems good!  I have the Billie and 
>>> Albastache too and so far, the Albatross is my preference. I'd love to try 
>>> the Choco's too but would need a longer stem 
>>>
>>> Willet - wow, that means a lot! Thanks so much! 
>>>
>>> John - Yeah to be honest, this build was with full understanding that I 
>>> might go back to either the MAP bar or the Wavie bar, but I wanted to give 
>>> these a proper try because I like the ergonomics of the bar end shifters vs 
>>> on a thumbshifter pod. Mind you it's kind of annoying how common it is to 
>>> bump the end of the bar and shift the gears by accident!  It was certainly 
>>> a bit tricky to get the Moto's and the rack to play together and to be 
>>> honest I still need to do some tweaking - the brake rubs the underside of 
>>> the Y mount.  The rear Motolite is rubbing the fender, too.  
>>>
>>> Eric - Happy to hear! Once I have it all dialed in I'll take some detail 
>>> photos for sure - right now, it would just highlight all the small issues 
>>> with the build haha.  Leah mentioned I should email it to Grant so maybe 
>>> I'll send them both a note with a few photos! 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 10:05:04 UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Another great ride report, Jason! Thanks for sharing your writing with 
 us. The 

 The bike looks fantastic. I was an advocate for maintaining the clear 
 coat but this looks incredible. Beautiful, subtle. Really well done. 

 For selfish reasons I'd love to see a detailed gallery with close-up 
 shots of breaks, pedals, hubs. How are those Bubbly pedals? They sure look 
 nice but how does the platform and grip compare to the Grip King 
 Monarch/Gamma?

 Looks like great riding abounds in your neck of 

[RBW] blue lug koma light question

[Michael Baquerizo]

recently got one of these and my kid decided to pull out the plug that 
covers the port. wondering if someone can snap a photo of theirs so i can 
try and find an online replacement? 

appreciate the help in advance!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with wind

[MoVelo]

Central Nebraska here. Winds and goatheads! If I can plan a ride out into 
the wind and with the wind on the return after I'm warmed up, I do. 
Sometimes that's not possible so I just bear it. 

I'm 66 and ride drops level with the saddle. Aero tuck the best you can. 
Cross winds can be just as bad. 

I lived in hilly Missouri and will take those hills with less wind over a 
constant prairie wind anyway of the week.

I suppose an approach with the bike set up in your reference photo, I would 
get my hands as close to the stem as possible and tuck myself as much as 
possible. Doesn't seem very enjoyable if you have to be in the position for 
any length of time.

I have a grocery getter MB2 set up similar to your photo but would never 
consider taking more than the quarter mile I take it to the grocery store 
or post office. 



JP

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 6:06:28 PM UTC-5 MCT wrote:

> I just suffer here in Oklahoma.  Otherwise, I try to go to in the wind and 
> fro with the wind at my back.
>
> Matt in OKC
>
> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 2:13:33 PM UTC-5 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Ditto Richard
>> Only I am 70..There Is always a wind in Colorado
>> If wind is above 12MPH I choose a trail that is sheltered from the wind.
>> My bikes have bars that position me upright.
>> A day riding into a head wind is better than no ride at all.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 1:01 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>
>>> I am a couple of months shy of 67. Been riding since I was 20. Had all 
>>> kinds of bikes. Back surgery 2 years ago convinced me I should stop riding 
>>> drops, or at least get them up really high. Now my non mountain bike looks 
>>> a lot like the one in the pic. My Clem has the Tosco bars up very high. I 
>>> am supremely comfortable. Into the wind I have at least two alternate hand 
>>> positions that get me into either a traditional “hoods” position or an 
>>> almost time trial position. The later is for very short periods of time. It 
>>> helps, but mostly I just have lower expectations these days regarding 
>>> making time into the wind. The best & my favorite way to combat the wind is 
>>> to ride my mountain bike in the woods.:)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2022, at 2:32 PM, lconley  wrote:
>>>
>>> I rarely sit bolt-upright (no pull back bars, just Nitto Wavies), but 
>>> most of my bikes have the bars are considerably higher than the seat so I 
>>> am fairly upright. I am a couple weeks shy of 66, but I just feel too tippy 
>>> bolt upright, I have been riding mostly drops for 50 years. When riding the 
>>> levees recently on my single speed Mystery Bike, 1st I chose the direction 
>>> of the ride carefully - start into the wind, there is a handy weather 
>>> station at the getting on the levee start point and I look at which way the 
>>> wind vane is pointing. Last weekend the winds were in the 10-20 mph range 
>>> and the single gear is 60. I have a Da Brim on my helmet and the wind can 
>>> definitely move my head around when it is gusty. I just ride into the wind 
>>> with elbows bent, slide back on the seat, for as long as I can (a little 
>>> more than an hour for now) at slightly over 6 mph then turn around and get 
>>> an assist on the return.
>>> 15-20 years ago, I used to get sent down to Ascension Island (South 
>>> Atlantic - about halfway between South  America and Africa) as a civilian 
>>> contractor and I took my Bike Friday (1x7 gearing) with me. The wind there 
>>> was 20 mph or more from the east, fortunately the base on on the west side 
>>> of the island, so I could ride out into the wind. I had to pedal down the 
>>> hills. It was about three hours out to the old NASA site and 1/2 hour 
>>> getting back, barely had to pedal uphill. Bars were a little above the seat.
>>>
>>> [image: 081 (2).jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: 046 (2).jpg]
>>>
>>> I am now working on my Mean Green Levee Riding Machine - putting gears 
>>> on my formerly single speed Rosco Bubbe V1. It will remain upright, with 
>>> the shifters on the downtube to discourage shifting unless needed (2x9 - 
>>> 48/34 with 12-29) with Rene Herse 700 x 44 tires. Should be easier into the 
>>> wind.
>>> Just for grins - here is my Guv'nor with three speed shifter mounted on 
>>> the seatpost - pretty much impossible to shift while on the bike - stop and 
>>> dismount to shift
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1535 (2).jpg]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 1:36:14 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I ask those of you who often ride in high winds: How do you deal with 
 strong headwinds when you are sitting bolt upright, particularly if you 
 are 
 riding a Quickbeam or Uno?

 Winds require more power, so a bolt upright position is tiring both 
 because of wind resistance, and because an insufficient angle between 
 torso 
 and hips means it's hard to generate torque -- or so I've always found.

 So if you are riding a bike set up like this one, how do you deal 

[RBW] Re: FT: Brooks B17 Saddles

[George Schick]

Oops.  I took another look at my short nosed Brooks saddle and it's a 
"Professional S", not a "B17s."  That means a shorter nose, but the width 
of a Brooks Pro and NO bag loops.  If you want those I can include a "bolt 
on" bag loop adapter in the trade if you would still be interested in that 
kind of saddle.


On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 8:35:35 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> OK, thanks.  I'll do the same with my B17S.
>
>
> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 8:26:30 PM UTC-5 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi George, yes I should have been more clear - it is the one with the 
>> large copper rivets. Happy to post a pic tomorrow!
>>
>> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 9:16:49 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> I want to make sure I understand your "black special".  Is that the one 
>>> with the large copper rivets and the chamfered edge on the leather along 
>>> the bottom edge?  If so, I have a black B17S with those same 
>>> characteristics that I might be willing to trade.
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:39:58 PM UTC-5 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I've got two Brooks b17 saddles (honey regular, and black special) to 
 trade - neither of them are broken in yet. I'm looking to ideally trade 
 them for the short nosed versions, B17S, B67s, or B68. I'm open to trying 
 other saddle shapes as well, or would also possibly trade for a Sackville 
 bag.  Located in Massachusetts!
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FT: Brooks B17 Saddles

[George Schick]

OK, thanks.  I'll do the same with my B17S.


On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 8:26:30 PM UTC-5 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi George, yes I should have been more clear - it is the one with the 
> large copper rivets. Happy to post a pic tomorrow!
>
> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 9:16:49 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> I want to make sure I understand your "black special".  Is that the one 
>> with the large copper rivets and the chamfered edge on the leather along 
>> the bottom edge?  If so, I have a black B17S with those same 
>> characteristics that I might be willing to trade.
>>
>> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:39:58 PM UTC-5 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I've got two Brooks b17 saddles (honey regular, and black special) to 
>>> trade - neither of them are broken in yet. I'm looking to ideally trade 
>>> them for the short nosed versions, B17S, B67s, or B68. I'm open to trying 
>>> other saddle shapes as well, or would also possibly trade for a Sackville 
>>> bag.  Located in Massachusetts!
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FT: Brooks B17 Saddles

[Sofie C]

Hi George, yes I should have been more clear - it is the one with the large 
copper rivets. Happy to post a pic tomorrow!

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 9:16:49 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> I want to make sure I understand your "black special".  Is that the one 
> with the large copper rivets and the chamfered edge on the leather along 
> the bottom edge?  If so, I have a black B17S with those same 
> characteristics that I might be willing to trade.
>
> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:39:58 PM UTC-5 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've got two Brooks b17 saddles (honey regular, and black special) to 
>> trade - neither of them are broken in yet. I'm looking to ideally trade 
>> them for the short nosed versions, B17S, B67s, or B68. I'm open to trying 
>> other saddle shapes as well, or would also possibly trade for a Sackville 
>> bag.  Located in Massachusetts!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FT: Brooks B17 Saddles

[George Schick]

I want to make sure I understand your "black special".  Is that the one 
with the large copper rivets and the chamfered edge on the leather along 
the bottom edge?  If so, I have a black B17S with those same 
characteristics that I might be willing to trade.

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:39:58 PM UTC-5 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've got two Brooks b17 saddles (honey regular, and black special) to 
> trade - neither of them are broken in yet. I'm looking to ideally trade 
> them for the short nosed versions, B17S, B67s, or B68. I'm open to trying 
> other saddle shapes as well, or would also possibly trade for a Sackville 
> bag.  Located in Massachusetts!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dealing with wind

[MCT]

I just suffer here in Oklahoma.  Otherwise, I try to go to in the wind and 
fro with the wind at my back.

Matt in OKC

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 2:13:33 PM UTC-5 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ditto Richard
> Only I am 70..There Is always a wind in Colorado
> If wind is above 12MPH I choose a trail that is sheltered from the wind.
> My bikes have bars that position me upright.
> A day riding into a head wind is better than no ride at all.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 1:01 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> I am a couple of months shy of 67. Been riding since I was 20. Had all 
>> kinds of bikes. Back surgery 2 years ago convinced me I should stop riding 
>> drops, or at least get them up really high. Now my non mountain bike looks 
>> a lot like the one in the pic. My Clem has the Tosco bars up very high. I 
>> am supremely comfortable. Into the wind I have at least two alternate hand 
>> positions that get me into either a traditional “hoods” position or an 
>> almost time trial position. The later is for very short periods of time. It 
>> helps, but mostly I just have lower expectations these days regarding 
>> making time into the wind. The best & my favorite way to combat the wind is 
>> to ride my mountain bike in the woods.:)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 14, 2022, at 2:32 PM, lconley  wrote:
>>
>> I rarely sit bolt-upright (no pull back bars, just Nitto Wavies), but 
>> most of my bikes have the bars are considerably higher than the seat so I 
>> am fairly upright. I am a couple weeks shy of 66, but I just feel too tippy 
>> bolt upright, I have been riding mostly drops for 50 years. When riding the 
>> levees recently on my single speed Mystery Bike, 1st I chose the direction 
>> of the ride carefully - start into the wind, there is a handy weather 
>> station at the getting on the levee start point and I look at which way the 
>> wind vane is pointing. Last weekend the winds were in the 10-20 mph range 
>> and the single gear is 60. I have a Da Brim on my helmet and the wind can 
>> definitely move my head around when it is gusty. I just ride into the wind 
>> with elbows bent, slide back on the seat, for as long as I can (a little 
>> more than an hour for now) at slightly over 6 mph then turn around and get 
>> an assist on the return.
>> 15-20 years ago, I used to get sent down to Ascension Island (South 
>> Atlantic - about halfway between South  America and Africa) as a civilian 
>> contractor and I took my Bike Friday (1x7 gearing) with me. The wind there 
>> was 20 mph or more from the east, fortunately the base on on the west side 
>> of the island, so I could ride out into the wind. I had to pedal down the 
>> hills. It was about three hours out to the old NASA site and 1/2 hour 
>> getting back, barely had to pedal uphill. Bars were a little above the seat.
>>
>> [image: 081 (2).jpg]
>>
>> [image: 046 (2).jpg]
>>
>> I am now working on my Mean Green Levee Riding Machine - putting gears on 
>> my formerly single speed Rosco Bubbe V1. It will remain upright, with the 
>> shifters on the downtube to discourage shifting unless needed (2x9 - 48/34 
>> with 12-29) with Rene Herse 700 x 44 tires. Should be easier into the wind.
>> Just for grins - here is my Guv'nor with three speed shifter mounted on 
>> the seatpost - pretty much impossible to shift while on the bike - stop and 
>> dismount to shift
>>
>> [image: IMG_1535 (2).jpg]
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 1:36:14 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I ask those of you who often ride in high winds: How do you deal with 
>>> strong headwinds when you are sitting bolt upright, particularly if you are 
>>> riding a Quickbeam or Uno?
>>>
>>> Winds require more power, so a bolt upright position is tiring both 
>>> because of wind resistance, and because an insufficient angle between torso 
>>> and hips means it's hard to generate torque -- or so I've always found.
>>>
>>> So if you are riding a bike set up like this one, how do you deal with 
>>> strong headwinds?
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> Here in Albuquerque we are entering Spring Wind season -- ABQ is breezy 
>>> year round, in fact -- which can start as early as late February and last 
>>> through June in a bad year; but routine W and SW winds of 20 mph with gusts 
>>> to 40 not uncommon are common from late March through May.
>>>
>>> When I started riding fixed a great deal back about the turn of the 20th 
>>> century I found headwinds hugely annoying, and it took me several years to 
>>> overcome the biggest handicap, a mental one, by, basically, reducing my 
>>> expectations. You learn to accept riding at half speed in order to maintain 
>>> sustainable levels of exertion.
>>>
>>> But I also fine tuned my bikes' setup and my riding position so that I 
>>> can ride in the hooks of drop bars for several miles at a stretch, and I 
>>> certainly find that riding low makes a huge difference to reducing the 
>>> wind's force and to making it easier to generate 

[RBW] FT: Brooks B17 Saddles

[Sofie C]

I've got two Brooks b17 saddles (honey regular, and black special) to trade 
- neither of them are broken in yet. I'm looking to ideally trade them for 
the short nosed versions, B17S, B67s, or B68. I'm open to trying other 
saddle shapes as well, or would also possibly trade for a Sackville bag. 
 Located in Massachusetts!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[Hugh Smitham]

David, 

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022, 1:10 PM David Person  wrote:

> Yeehaw!
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 7:55:04 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Thank you Sir. It was a fun parts picking process. My favorite bits are
>> the vintage XTR bits and the Cerakote Nitto Seatpost and stem adapter.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 7:46 PM stoker  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hugh - it’s not a recent pic - it was taken around 2005 or 06, so it
>>> was a few years old. Really dig your new Atlantis. Great parts pick and
>>> love the orange!
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 9:05:04 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Stoker,

 Is that a recent picture? It looks pristine. I dig the Ibis stem..

 Hugh

 On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 2:27 PM stoker  wrote:

> My 58cm from the first run. Pretty sure it was the end of 2000?
> Great to see all the terrific builds!
>
> https://flic.kr/p/pPczv2
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Morning Bill,
>>
>> And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to
>> build was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty
>> quick. I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver 
>> and
>> helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.
>>
>> Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and
>> particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the 
>> noodle
>> and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.
>>
>> I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites
>> colors of mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a
>> MUP  But it is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it
>> rides completely different from my road Atlantis.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the
>>> wait! Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It
>>> appears maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would
>>> work. But it certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Jon!

 On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman 
 wrote:

> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham 
> wrote:
>
>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>
>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off.
>> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River 
>> MUP
>> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not 
>> sure the
>> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>
>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and
>>> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original
>>> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
>>> Atlantis.
>>> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other 
>>> details like
>>> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>
>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>
>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[iamkeith]

 if not the headbadge.

   
On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 12:25:29 PM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> That Hunq's worth it for the fork alone. Definitely not JRA damage..
> -Kai
>
> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 2:05:21 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>
>> Hunqapillar in need of repair, $50. 
>> 53cm
>> Portland, OR
>>
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-hunqapillar-needs/7457917053.html
>>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Hilibike parts, Deore & XTR

[Collin A]

All parts are sold. Thanks everyone for helping clean out my bike closet!

Collin in Sacramento

On Monday, March 7, 2022 at 3:12:02 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:

> Apologies for the spam, everything is sold except for the hubs, though 
> there have been a few nibbles...
>
> XTR M960 Hubs, NOS, 32h: Unused and unlaced, and would make an excellent 
> heart to a pair of hillibike wheels. They are a dark silver, almost 
> gunmetal-type color that would provide a good balance to the vibrant colors 
> Riv uses. 8/9/10 speed freehub, but you can use 11 spd mtn cassettes and 
> the higher range 11 speed road cassettes on here as well. 100QR front and 
> 135 QR rear, 450g for the set - *Asking $160+ shipping.*
>
> Happy Monday All,
> Collin
> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 7:38:07 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>
>> They are indeed. As for updates, see below:
>>
>>- The cranks will definitely be sold pending payment, there are about 
>>5 people who have replied to me
>>- The saddle and Bar Tape are sold, pending payment
>>
>> The hubs and the brakes are still available.
>>
>> Collin
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 4:39:24 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Dang those hubs are sweet.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Collin A  wrote:
>>>
>>> Bump...and some updates 
>>>
>>>
>>>- I was able to locate the skewers for the XTR hubs, but the front 
>>>was used and has a couple scratches (I added some photos, along) :/
>>>- Deore brakes are pending maybe?
>>>
>>> Added the following:
>>>
>>>- *Gilles Berthoud Natural/Tan Soulor *- the racing one with 
>>>stainless rails. It is used for maybe 300 miles and shows it in the 
>>> visual 
>>>appearance of the saddle, but the leather is still stiff an unbroken for 
>>> a 
>>>future rider. *Asking $150+shipping*
>>>- *Rivendell SILV3R Cranks, 173 length -* Another OEM part from my 
>>>Clem, with some rub marks along the arms and a bit of dust/grease in 
>>> harder 
>>>to reach spots, but still great and wonderful looking cranks. *Asking 
>>>$100+Shipping*
>>>- *Maware Leather Tape, Tan** - *Good color option for the saddle 
>>>above, and used on the same bike for the same duration. There is some 
>>>discoloration, which I tried to photograph the worst of it. Length is 
>>>unmeasured, but I was able to wrap 48cm crust shaka bars with it 
>>> (example 
>>>photo in the link), and I can supply the end plugs as well if desired. 
>>>These:  Maware Leather Handlebar tape – Rene Herse Cycles 
>>>
>>> .
>>>  
>>>*Asking $40+shipping*
>>>
>>> I left shipping as a variable as that seems to be highly variable right 
>>> now as well. In general, it will be USPS and insured, and most will end up 
>>> in a flat rate box. Also, if these prices seem ridiculous let me know, 
>>> given the current state of shortages, demand, etc. I have no idea what is a 
>>> reasonable/fair price anymore...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 1:23:03 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>>>
 Folks,

 I have some parts in my parts bin that hit my criteria of "I haven't 
 used them in 2 years, so time to get rid of them." If i didn't live in an 
 apartment without a garage, I'm sure that criteria would change, but as it 
 is, space is limited.

 Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9

 Anywho, I have the following:
 Deore V brakes, "silver" one bike's worth: OEM from my 2017 Clem H, a 
 bit dusty but overall great working condition. Comes with the mounting 
 bolts, noodles, and little cable protectors. They work great, but I have 
 since switched to cantis on my Rivendell -* Asking $30 + shipping*

 XTR M960 Hubs, NOS, 32h: Unused and unlaced, and would make an 
 excellent heart to a pair of hillibike wheels. They are a dark silver, 
 almost gunmetal-type color that would provide a good balance to the 
 vibrant 
 colors Riv uses. 8/9/10 speed freehub, but you can use 11 spd mtn 
 cassettes 
 and the higher range 11 speed road cassettes on here as well. 100QR front 
 and 135 QR rear, 450g for the set - *Asking $160+ shipping.*

 Enjoy the weekend,
 Collin "what is rain" in Sacramento, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[David Person]

Yeehaw!

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 7:55:04 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Thank you Sir. It was a fun parts picking process. My favorite bits are 
> the vintage XTR bits and the Cerakote Nitto Seatpost and stem adapter.
>
> Hugh
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 7:46 PM stoker  wrote:
>
>> Hi Hugh - it’s not a recent pic - it was taken around 2005 or 06, so it 
>> was a few years old. Really dig your new Atlantis. Great parts pick and 
>> love the orange! 
>>
>> Bob
>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 9:05:04 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Stoker,
>>>
>>> Is that a recent picture? It looks pristine. I dig the Ibis stem..
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 2:27 PM stoker  wrote:
>>>
 My 58cm from the first run. Pretty sure it was the end of 2000?
 Great to see all the terrific builds!

 https://flic.kr/p/pPczv2

 On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Morning Bill,
>
> And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to 
> build was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty 
> quick. I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver 
> and 
> helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.
>
> Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and 
> particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the 
> noodle 
> and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.
>
> I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites 
> colors of mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a 
> MUP  But it is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it 
> rides completely different from my road Atlantis.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Hugh 
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford  
> wrote:
>
>> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the 
>> wait! Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It 
>> appears maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would 
>> work. But it certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>>
>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jon!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!


 On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  
 wrote:

> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>
> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. 
> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River 
> MUP 
> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not 
> sure the 
> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>
> Hugh
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and 
>> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original 
>> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
>> Atlantis. 
>> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
>> like 
>> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 54 MUSA Hunqapillar

[Brendan Willard in SF]

Sold!

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 11:29:04 AM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF 
wrote:

> I love this bike 
> ,
>  
> but it's spending too much time in the shed, it's a hair too small for me, 
> andI need to give Mike Varley all my money.
>
> I'm thinking $3200 net to me with all the fancy bits that are pictured.  
> The frame is near perfect and I have the original purchase receipt.  Most 
> parts are like new.
>
> I will also consider f/f/hs or partial build.
>
> I'd prefer a local sale, but could ship.
>
> Paul Components - Motolites, Love Levers, Tall and Handsome SP
> White industries - ST Crankset, ti BB
> SLX  shifter and RD
> Nitto - Bullmoose bars, Mark's Rack
> Rich built Shimano Dynamo/LX to Velocity Dyads, White Schwalbe Big Bens.
> Schmidt Edelux II Headlight
> Brooks B17 (or -$50)
>
>
> I will get some pics up today
>
> Cheers!
>
> Brendan in SF
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Am I thinking practically? Riv for all seasons

[Mackenzy Albright]

I am also a canadian - Edmonton Alberta. For winter commuting I used to use 
a salsa elmariachi 29er single speed. That was 10 years ago when it'd get 
cold and stay cold and conditions were stable. I find the last 3 years 
there's been a lot of freeze thaw which produces more ice patches, sludge, 
grime, and general unpredictable conditions. 

I used to ride 80's mtbs which I love, but always have so many quirks. I 
ended up ordering a custom SSFG MTB frame from marino bike to double as a 
winter/ single track MTB. A mix of a surly 1x1 and crust evasion. It was 
cheaper than buying a surly frame and fork and designed it around parts I 
had in a bin. It's an incredible simple bike and I enjoy the fixed with 
hydraulic front brake that is very reliable in all conditions. I just load 
everything down with fluid film and it cleans up nicely in the spring. 

I also recently acquired a ClemL. I just sit on it half built in my living 
room imagining warm weather and sunshine. I am in love - and can tell it'll 
be amazing once the steel rot snow sludge is gone. 

I've admitted to myself that I needed multiple bikes in Edmonton. It was 
easier to have only a few living in victoria/west coast with more mild 
weather. 

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 11:54:17 AM UTC-6 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> +1 on the Hillborne. It’s really a swiss-army knife bike! 
>
> On Mar 14, 2022, at 10:48 AM, J S  wrote:
>
> I would not rule out a Hillborne. 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:42:34 PM UTC-4 trevor@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> First time posting here. Not yet an owner, but working on it!
>>
>> A few years back, I sold my year round commuter (a Surly Steamroller with 
>> custom Canti mounts) in favour of a bike with disc brakes, thinking that 
>> would be the way to go for all-season riding. For reference, I live in the 
>> middle of Canada where we have snow up to 6 months of the year, with 
>> temperatures hovering well below -20C for a lot of that.
>>
>> I've recently been eyeing up the Joe Appaloosa as a contender for my next 
>> bike. The idea is that it would be commuter as well as tourer/light 
>> trail/etc. There would be some overlap with other bikes, but I am going to 
>> be honest and say that I am smitten with that bike.
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience riding their Riv in awful wintery 
>> conditions? I've survived on 33c CX tires before, so that aspect of the 
>> bike is less of a concern. I am mostly thinking about the rim brake 
>> concerns and any other things to watch out for. Or maybe I am just trying 
>> to coax myself into moving distinctly into N+1 territory. 
>>
>> I would be happy to hear any thoughts about riding Rivs in awful winter 
>> conditions.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Dealing with wind

[aeroperf]

As an aerodynamics/performance engineer who used to live in Wichita, KS (20 
mph is a gentle breeze)—with that setup I would:

Make sure that I had a saddle that would allow me to bend over - some 
saddles *force* you to ride bolt upright.
Bend over when I could, sticking my elbows out.  Lowering the bars just a 
little helps with this.
Wear a tight, finely woven top.  Nylon, not flannel.
Likewise wear Lycra.  Less drag than cargo pants.
Wear a helmet.  They actually do reduce drag over hats or just hair.  If 
you’re bald, skip this.
And if all else fails, shave your legs.    Just kidding; the gain isn’t 
worth it.

I try to ride out into the wind when I’m fresher, ride home with the wind.
But, truthfully, the drag will always be there.  It’s a Vee-squared 
function.  The stuff above will help, but slowing down is just about the 
only thing that significantly reduces it.

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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

That Hunq's worth it for the fork alone. Definitely not JRA damage..
-Kai

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 2:05:21 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Hunqapillar in need of repair, $50. 
> 53cm
> Portland, OR
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-hunqapillar-needs/7457917053.html
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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[JAS]

Quickbeam
56cm 
Eugene, OR

https://eugene.craigslist.org/bik/d/eugene-rivendell-quickbeam-56cm/7454571966.html
On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 11:05:21 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:

> Hunqapillar in need of repair, $50. 
> 53cm
> Portland, OR
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-hunqapillar-needs/7457917053.html
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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[JAS]

Hunqapillar in need of repair, $50. 
53cm
Portland, OR

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-hunqapillar-needs/7457917053.html
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Am I thinking practically? Riv for all seasons

[Joe Mullins]

+1 on the Hillborne. It’s really a swiss-army knife bike! 

> On Mar 14, 2022, at 10:48 AM, J S  wrote:
> 
> I would not rule out a Hillborne. 
> 
>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:42:34 PM UTC-4 trevor@gmail.com wrote:
>> First time posting here. Not yet an owner, but working on it!
>> 
>> A few years back, I sold my year round commuter (a Surly Steamroller with 
>> custom Canti mounts) in favour of a bike with disc brakes, thinking that 
>> would be the way to go for all-season riding. For reference, I live in the 
>> middle of Canada where we have snow up to 6 months of the year, with 
>> temperatures hovering well below -20C for a lot of that.
>> 
>> I've recently been eyeing up the Joe Appaloosa as a contender for my next 
>> bike. The idea is that it would be commuter as well as tourer/light 
>> trail/etc. There would be some overlap with other bikes, but I am going to 
>> be honest and say that I am smitten with that bike.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any experience riding their Riv in awful wintery 
>> conditions? I've survived on 33c CX tires before, so that aspect of the bike 
>> is less of a concern. I am mostly thinking about the rim brake concerns and 
>> any other things to watch out for. Or maybe I am just trying to coax myself 
>> into moving distinctly into N+1 territory. 
>> 
>> I would be happy to hear any thoughts about riding Rivs in awful winter 
>> conditions.
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[RBW] Re: Am I thinking practically? Riv for all seasons

[J S]

I would not rule out a Hillborne. 

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:42:34 PM UTC-4 trevor@gmail.com wrote:

> First time posting here. Not yet an owner, but working on it!
>
> A few years back, I sold my year round commuter (a Surly Steamroller with 
> custom Canti mounts) in favour of a bike with disc brakes, thinking that 
> would be the way to go for all-season riding. For reference, I live in the 
> middle of Canada where we have snow up to 6 months of the year, with 
> temperatures hovering well below -20C for a lot of that.
>
> I've recently been eyeing up the Joe Appaloosa as a contender for my next 
> bike. The idea is that it would be commuter as well as tourer/light 
> trail/etc. There would be some overlap with other bikes, but I am going to 
> be honest and say that I am smitten with that bike.
>
> Does anyone have any experience riding their Riv in awful wintery 
> conditions? I've survived on 33c CX tires before, so that aspect of the 
> bike is less of a concern. I am mostly thinking about the rim brake 
> concerns and any other things to watch out for. Or maybe I am just trying 
> to coax myself into moving distinctly into N+1 territory. 
>
> I would be happy to hear any thoughts about riding Rivs in awful winter 
> conditions.
>

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[RBW] Re: [Repainted] Bombadil on its Archetypal Route

[JAS]

Jason, thank you for posting your beautiful photos of the perfect bike on 
woodland trails.  Your adventures bring inspiration and awe.  

--Joyce 

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 9:51:38 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Great pics, Jason! Bike looks great, as well. 
>
> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 1:31:29 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> That last photo amongst the logs by the lake is beautiful.
>>
>> On Monday, 14 March 2022 at 11:47:33 UTC+8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Did 50km of muddy, snowy double track and trails today and while I'm 
>>> absolutely smashed, the Bombadil is still shiny I don't understand. 
>>> Dirt won't stick to it. Goes to show what two coats of wet-sanded clearcoat 
>>> will do! 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20220313_195356855.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 17:33:57 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 I got a bit further today, thanks to the lack of snow.  

 I stole the Albatross for the Charlie Gallop, because I knew the Wavie 
 was always destined for this bike in the end. It feels very right with 
 this 
 setup - great control on the trail but also comfortable for the road. A 
 fillet faceplate stem will eventually go on when I am able to procure one, 
 and that's the final piece of the puzzle! Shifting is still fickle for 
 some 
 reason, and I'm hoping I just solved it by filing down the excess 
 clearcoat 
 on the derailleur hanger.  We'll see! 

 [image: PXL_20220226_204333039.jpg]

 On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 11:04:18 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Thanks for the kind words all! 
>
> Brendon - my original plan was to use Jay's / Hunq green, but given 
> there is no paint code available for it I gave some reference to the 
> painter and he presented me with a pretty good range of color swatches 
> from 
> teal-ish greens to olive greens, all metallic as that was a criteria. So 
> this green was chosen from a small sample and I honestly wasn't sure what 
> it would look like on the frame!  I'm happy with it for sure though. 
>
> Takashi - yep! After stripping the clear coat (which is clear 
> powdercoat turns out! Much more robust than I expected, which ironically 
> means if I knew that I'd probably have left it raw...).  He brazed the 
> little adapter on and drilled a small hole near the front of the lower 
> TT.  
> So far, I haven't been able to get it to work which is alarming and 
> upsetting.  I might enlist professionals soon! 
>
> Bill - I knew I enjoy the shape from my Twenty, and the reach is a bit 
> longer on the Bombadil but so far seems good!  I have the Billie and 
> Albastache too and so far, the Albatross is my preference. I'd love to 
> try 
> the Choco's too but would need a longer stem 
>
> Willet - wow, that means a lot! Thanks so much! 
>
> John - Yeah to be honest, this build was with full understanding that 
> I might go back to either the MAP bar or the Wavie bar, but I wanted to 
> give these a proper try because I like the ergonomics of the bar end 
> shifters vs on a thumbshifter pod. Mind you it's kind of annoying how 
> common it is to bump the end of the bar and shift the gears by accident!  
> It was certainly a bit tricky to get the Moto's and the rack to play 
> together and to be honest I still need to do some tweaking - the brake 
> rubs 
> the underside of the Y mount.  The rear Motolite is rubbing the fender, 
> too.  
>
> Eric - Happy to hear! Once I have it all dialed in I'll take some 
> detail photos for sure - right now, it would just highlight all the small 
> issues with the build haha.  Leah mentioned I should email it to Grant so 
> maybe I'll send them both a note with a few photos! 
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 10:05:04 UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Another great ride report, Jason! Thanks for sharing your writing 
>> with us. The 
>>
>> The bike looks fantastic. I was an advocate for maintaining the clear 
>> coat but this looks incredible. Beautiful, subtle. Really well done. 
>>
>> For selfish reasons I'd love to see a detailed gallery with close-up 
>> shots of breaks, pedals, hubs. How are those Bubbly pedals? They sure 
>> look 
>> nice but how does the platform and grip compare to the Grip King 
>> Monarch/Gamma?
>>
>> Looks like great riding abounds in your neck of the woods. 
>>
>> The picture on your blog with the moss-covered forest (take from 
>> further away than the one you posted here) is really, really good! You 
>> should sent it to Will, I'd wager he'd include it in an email update 
>> where 
>> others might admire. 
>>
>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 12:48:10 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>

[RBW] Re: [Repainted] Bombadil on its Archetypal Route

[Eric Marth]

Great pics, Jason! Bike looks great, as well. 

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 1:31:29 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> That last photo amongst the logs by the lake is beautiful.
>
> On Monday, 14 March 2022 at 11:47:33 UTC+8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Did 50km of muddy, snowy double track and trails today and while I'm 
>> absolutely smashed, the Bombadil is still shiny I don't understand. 
>> Dirt won't stick to it. Goes to show what two coats of wet-sanded clearcoat 
>> will do! 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20220313_195356855.jpg]
>>
>> On Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 17:33:57 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I got a bit further today, thanks to the lack of snow.  
>>>
>>> I stole the Albatross for the Charlie Gallop, because I knew the Wavie 
>>> was always destined for this bike in the end. It feels very right with this 
>>> setup - great control on the trail but also comfortable for the road. A 
>>> fillet faceplate stem will eventually go on when I am able to procure one, 
>>> and that's the final piece of the puzzle! Shifting is still fickle for some 
>>> reason, and I'm hoping I just solved it by filing down the excess clearcoat 
>>> on the derailleur hanger.  We'll see! 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20220226_204333039.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 11:04:18 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the kind words all! 

 Brendon - my original plan was to use Jay's / Hunq green, but given 
 there is no paint code available for it I gave some reference to the 
 painter and he presented me with a pretty good range of color swatches 
 from 
 teal-ish greens to olive greens, all metallic as that was a criteria. So 
 this green was chosen from a small sample and I honestly wasn't sure what 
 it would look like on the frame!  I'm happy with it for sure though. 

 Takashi - yep! After stripping the clear coat (which is clear 
 powdercoat turns out! Much more robust than I expected, which ironically 
 means if I knew that I'd probably have left it raw...).  He brazed the 
 little adapter on and drilled a small hole near the front of the lower TT. 
  
 So far, I haven't been able to get it to work which is alarming and 
 upsetting.  I might enlist professionals soon! 

 Bill - I knew I enjoy the shape from my Twenty, and the reach is a bit 
 longer on the Bombadil but so far seems good!  I have the Billie and 
 Albastache too and so far, the Albatross is my preference. I'd love to try 
 the Choco's too but would need a longer stem 

 Willet - wow, that means a lot! Thanks so much! 

 John - Yeah to be honest, this build was with full understanding that I 
 might go back to either the MAP bar or the Wavie bar, but I wanted to give 
 these a proper try because I like the ergonomics of the bar end shifters 
 vs 
 on a thumbshifter pod. Mind you it's kind of annoying how common it is to 
 bump the end of the bar and shift the gears by accident!  It was certainly 
 a bit tricky to get the Moto's and the rack to play together and to be 
 honest I still need to do some tweaking - the brake rubs the underside of 
 the Y mount.  The rear Motolite is rubbing the fender, too.  

 Eric - Happy to hear! Once I have it all dialed in I'll take some 
 detail photos for sure - right now, it would just highlight all the small 
 issues with the build haha.  Leah mentioned I should email it to Grant so 
 maybe I'll send them both a note with a few photos! 

  









 On Sunday, 16 January 2022 at 10:05:04 UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Another great ride report, Jason! Thanks for sharing your writing with 
> us. The 
>
> The bike looks fantastic. I was an advocate for maintaining the clear 
> coat but this looks incredible. Beautiful, subtle. Really well done. 
>
> For selfish reasons I'd love to see a detailed gallery with close-up 
> shots of breaks, pedals, hubs. How are those Bubbly pedals? They sure 
> look 
> nice but how does the platform and grip compare to the Grip King 
> Monarch/Gamma?
>
> Looks like great riding abounds in your neck of the woods. 
>
> The picture on your blog with the moss-covered forest (take from 
> further away than the one you posted here) is really, really good! You 
> should sent it to Will, I'd wager he'd include it in an email update 
> where 
> others might admire. 
>
> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 12:48:10 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> Beautiful, money well spent!
>>
>> I was kinda surprised to see the albatross bars after the Aherne 
>> bars, how did you like them on those trails? And how did the Pass & Stow 
>> rack play with the Motolites?
>>
>> John
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Dia Compe 610's, ciclo mini rack, matching ostrich bag

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

[image: ENE-FRONT-BAG-1-575x380.jpg]

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:32:31 PM UTC-4 Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:

> [image: IMG-0212.jpg]
> [image: IMG-0211.JPG]
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:30:30 PM UTC-4 Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
> Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG-0206.jpg]
>>
>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 8:28:41 PM UTC-4 Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
>> Haus Bicycles wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG-0212.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG-0211.JPG]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Pigeonholed in Bicycle Philosophy

[ascpgh]

Rich, that's a nice bike and color too! Reminds me of the "tusk" of the 
MB-0 I had long ago. 

Those Dia Compe brakes have that aesthetic of  Mafac (and Paul Neo Retro) 
cantilevers. I agree with your riding/handling impressions and of Johnny as 
well. My bike's finish in that color was chosen by my consorts to the Coast 
shop who saw and insisted on the "French Vanilla" upon seeing his recent 
NAHBS bike awaiting shipment. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 10:55:15 AM UTC-5 RichS wrote:

> Andy, that's an enviable and enjoyable album. Johnny is really nice and 
> his tucked away atelier is a steel art and craft happening. Not well 
> documented but here is my thing in its final "happened" state. Riv content: 
> it's what got me pigeonholed here:-)
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 9:48:44 PM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> An album of the thing happening: 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/PxJUkK7TtCQSdk2A7
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 1:00:15 PM UTC-5 J. W. wrote:
>>
>>> Lovely post Andy. You wrote:
>>>
>>> The conclusions that I have found and my riding objectives shaped the 
 bike I had made for me and those objective needs. I took 20 years of 
 almost 
 there, but have it nailed now. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I am new here so I haven't seen it if you've posted it before--can you 
>>> post a picture of this bike? Thanks! Jon in Montreal
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Am I thinking practically? Riv for all seasons

[Den John]

I agree with Ian from Alberta. I've used a variety of old 80s-90s 
non-suspension MTBs for commuting the past few years. There aren't many 
better 
bikes for commuting as long as they have mudguard and rack mounts. 
Components will suffer in the winter, so stick with basic stuff. Steel 
chainrings might be good idea. I currently have a specialized stumpjumper 
converted to 650B with 42mm tyres. 

If you do decide to use a Rivendell, get the best mudguards you can. I 
bought some Gilles Berthoud stainless guards a couple of years ago and it 
is remarkable how much difference they make keeping the frame clean in 
horrible conditions. 

Another consideration is what your bike storage at work is like. I found 
that my employer has a secure underground bike storage that is little used, 
so I'd be ok with storing a nice bike there. Previously I locked up my bike 
at a crowded bike rack in a train station, and then at a public bike rack 
used by students. I wouldn't want to do that with my nice bikes. 

Cheers,
Johnny

On Monday, 14 March 2022 at 09:04:02 UTC+1 Ian A wrote:

> I'm in Alberta and in the past ten years I have lived here, I have winter 
> commuted on an 80's Rocky Mountain MTB with 26"x2" Schwalbe Ice Spikers. 
> The bike has held up well, but all components have to be considered 
> sacrificial as the winter is hard on the bike. I ran it as a 2x6 for the 
> first ~six years, then converted it to a single speed (50x20) and it does 
> well. Hauls groceries and commutes in the winter and hauls groceries, 
> commutes and gets locked up around town in the summer!
>
> My nice bikes don't do the winter stuff. The grit, salt, spring thaw 
> puddles etc are just too wear inducing. I rebuild the Rocky periodically 
> and has never let me down. I would say the Appaloosa would handle the 
> winter conditions well, but keeping it nice for Spring/Summer/Fall touring, 
> commuting, errands etc and a slightly more sacrificial winter bike that you 
> can still be fond of is the way to go.
>
> IanA Alberta Canada
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:42:34 AM UTC-6 trevor@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> First time posting here. Not yet an owner, but working on it!
>>
>> A few years back, I sold my year round commuter (a Surly Steamroller with 
>> custom Canti mounts) in favour of a bike with disc brakes, thinking that 
>> would be the way to go for all-season riding. For reference, I live in the 
>> middle of Canada where we have snow up to 6 months of the year, with 
>> temperatures hovering well below -20C for a lot of that.
>>
>> I've recently been eyeing up the Joe Appaloosa as a contender for my next 
>> bike. The idea is that it would be commuter as well as tourer/light 
>> trail/etc. There would be some overlap with other bikes, but I am going to 
>> be honest and say that I am smitten with that bike.
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience riding their Riv in awful wintery 
>> conditions? I've survived on 33c CX tires before, so that aspect of the 
>> bike is less of a concern. I am mostly thinking about the rim brake 
>> concerns and any other things to watch out for. Or maybe I am just trying 
>> to coax myself into moving distinctly into N+1 territory. 
>>
>> I would be happy to hear any thoughts about riding Rivs in awful winter 
>> conditions.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Am I thinking practically? Riv for all seasons

[Ian A]

I'm in Alberta and in the past ten years I have lived here, I have winter 
commuted on an 80's Rocky Mountain MTB with 26"x2" Schwalbe Ice Spikers. 
The bike has held up well, but all components have to be considered 
sacrificial as the winter is hard on the bike. I ran it as a 2x6 for the 
first ~six years, then converted it to a single speed (50x20) and it does 
well. Hauls groceries and commutes in the winter and hauls groceries, 
commutes and gets locked up around town in the summer!

My nice bikes don't do the winter stuff. The grit, salt, spring thaw 
puddles etc are just too wear inducing. I rebuild the Rocky periodically 
and has never let me down. I would say the Appaloosa would handle the 
winter conditions well, but keeping it nice for Spring/Summer/Fall touring, 
commuting, errands etc and a slightly more sacrificial winter bike that you 
can still be fond of is the way to go.

IanA Alberta Canada
On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:42:34 AM UTC-6 trevor@gmail.com wrote:

> First time posting here. Not yet an owner, but working on it!
>
> A few years back, I sold my year round commuter (a Surly Steamroller with 
> custom Canti mounts) in favour of a bike with disc brakes, thinking that 
> would be the way to go for all-season riding. For reference, I live in the 
> middle of Canada where we have snow up to 6 months of the year, with 
> temperatures hovering well below -20C for a lot of that.
>
> I've recently been eyeing up the Joe Appaloosa as a contender for my next 
> bike. The idea is that it would be commuter as well as tourer/light 
> trail/etc. There would be some overlap with other bikes, but I am going to 
> be honest and say that I am smitten with that bike.
>
> Does anyone have any experience riding their Riv in awful wintery 
> conditions? I've survived on 33c CX tires before, so that aspect of the 
> bike is less of a concern. I am mostly thinking about the rim brake 
> concerns and any other things to watch out for. Or maybe I am just trying 
> to coax myself into moving distinctly into N+1 territory. 
>
> I would be happy to hear any thoughts about riding Rivs in awful winter 
> conditions.
>

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