[RBW] Wonderful Japanese Bike Storage

[John Rinker]

Loading my bike in the storage rack at school is almost as pleasurable as 
my ride to school. 

Wonderful Japanese Bike Storage 

 (short 
video)

I would love to have one of these in my workshop!

Cheers,
John

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Re: [RBW] Jim 7 speed cassette on a triple

[Joe Mullins]

This exact setup is going on my Susie once it arrives. I will first try it with 
a long cage derailed and no extender and report my findings!

Joe in Los Angeles


> On May 7, 2022, at 12:48 PM, Yankeebird  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, all. I don’t have a lot of personal rear derailleur screwing around 
> experience. Usually IGH or one cog with 3x up front. I got the Altus and 
> extender in case and I’ll post back.
> 
> On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 2:10:29 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
> 
> The wrap for a 1x Yankeebird is whatever the spread is for the cassette 
> alone, since there's no other ring there's no additional difference to 
> account for. 
> 
> As for clearing the 42t cog, the only thing that matters is that the RD can 
> clear it alright. The "how" that is done, well there are endless creative 
> ways to do that with endless RD's ! With extenders you would be able to use a 
> road RD. I know back in the 70's there was a bike shop in Missoula, MT that 
> made custom extenders and freewheel cogs using Campy racing RD's I believe. 
> They were really lng ! You'll be fine with most off the shelf things you 
> can buy today.
> 
> On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 12:39:17 PM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:
> What about a 1x?
> How do I calculate wrap for that?
> I have two older bikes with the old trad 7spds cassette I’d like to replace 
> with 13-42. The Altus has a max rear cog size of 36 but if I only do a 1x 
> does it matter? Can I use the old derailleur, even?
> 
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 8:00:26 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
> As long as you're within the total capacity of the RD it could work with one 
> of those Wolf Tooth derailleur hanger extensions, called a Roadlink I think. 
> Others make them, but Wolfies and Wheels Mfg I know for sure use a stainless 
> steel bolt, while the other use aluminum.  The Wolfie helps to clear the 
> largest cog only, it doesn't add any capacity, that's for the RD.  A 13-42 , 
> at 29 teeth, doesn't leave much room for a triple with much spread. 45t is 
> what most mtb RD are ? That leaves 16t spread for the rings. I for one never 
> use certain combos of course so these "formulas" are theoretical, actual use, 
> if you know what you're doing, can go beyond all that. "Know what you're 
> doing" ... meaning  not running say a 26t small cog and the last 3 cogs, 
> and likewise, not using the big ring in at least the 2 largest cogs, it 
> really depends on the crank chainline and how much you heed or ignore the 
> horrible sound of cross angling of the chain. 
> 
> A half step triple would work, like a 44/40/28 for example. The numbers are 
> off the top of my head, not a suggestion. Having the half step would help 
> split some of the large jumps in the cassette. 
> 
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:11:11 PM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:
> Any one know if a 7 speed 42 would work with a long cage silver triple? Or is 
> it only compatible with a wide double? 
> 
> Thanks 
> Samuel 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [RBW] How often do you clean your bike after dry dirt road rides?

[Ryan Frahm]

I have had very good luck with SCC Slick Tech chain lube. I just wipe my 
chain down after or during those rides and it stays clean for a long while 
before I just apply more. I’m not great at keeping track of miles but it 
does a better job than any other i have tried!

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 8:05:15 PM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I commuted off-road on a Pugsley in those conditions here in dry SoCal for 
> years and really did little maintenance other than lube the chain 
> regularly. I think I changed cogs, chain and the large chainring at about 
> 4,000 miles but that was about it. This was a 2x10 drivetrain.
>
> I don’t think our dust is as bad as what you have but it does coat the 
> bike with a fine layer of dust every ride. In winter I would sometimes get 
> caught in some mud and that got washed off as soon as I got home. Our mud 
> dries into something that’s hard to get off once it sets.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 6, 2022, at 5:10 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I'm curious about others' dirt road/trail bike maintenance routines. I'm 
> moderately conscientious about drivetrain upkeep, and generally wash and 
> re-lube shortly after the chain gets noisy. For road, this may be 200 to 
> 400 miles depending on routes, but on our very powdery, river-silt bosque 
> soil even a single ride will have the chain and cogs coated in a light 
> brown dust, and I do notice a very slight decline in shifting quickness. 
> This is all the more so as we have had sub- Sub Saharan levels of humidity, 
> under which the dirt road and trail surfaces dry and break up into very 
> fine silt.
>
> I generally get about 100 miles of about 3/4 dirt-cum-pavement riding 
> before the chain on the derailleured Matthews starts getting loud, and I 
> often wipe the dust off chain and (using soft, long-bristled brush) off the 
> cassette, but I can't bear to wash the bike every 100 miles.
>
> So, I am curious what yez do when your ride in dusty, or other sorts of 
> dirty, conditions..
>
> BTW, when I *do* wash the bike, I've reduced it to simplicity: Take bike 
> stand outside and put near hose. Put bike in stand. Rinse bike with full 
> but gentle flow of cold water. Use long-bristled but soft brush and pail 
> with 2 gal cold water and dish detergent to wash drivetrain, frame, wheels, 
> disc calipers; rinse with full but ditto. Remove front stand, bounce, let 
> dry in garage. No more than 10 minutes. Come back later when all dry to 
> lube chain (James at Analog's Pro Link method: drip, wipe, wipe again, and 
> again; come back later when dry, wipe some more) and derailleur and brake 
> pivots -- spray lube or fine-spout oil can with chainsaw oil, not WD 40). 
> Total about 15 minutes.
>
> What do you do?
>
> Patrick Moore, after another very pleasant spring dirt ride on the 
> Matthews Road Bike For Dirt in Albuquerque's Westside bosque, 87*F, 4% 
> humidity, very light breeze, welcome in this high-spring-wind season.
>
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[RBW] Re: Jim 7 speed cassette on a triple

[Yankeebird]

Thanks, all. I don’t have a lot of personal rear derailleur screwing around 
experience. Usually IGH or one cog with 3x up front. I got the Altus and 
extender in case and I’ll post back.

On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 2:10:29 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

>
> The wrap for a 1x Yankeebird is whatever the spread is for the cassette 
> alone, since there's no other ring there's no additional difference to 
> account for. 
>
> As for clearing the 42t cog, the only thing that matters is that the RD 
> can clear it alright. The "how" that is done, well there are endless 
> creative ways to do that with endless RD's ! With extenders you would be 
> able to use a road RD. I know back in the 70's there was a bike shop in 
> Missoula, MT that made custom extenders and freewheel cogs using Campy 
> racing RD's I believe. They were really lng ! You'll be fine with most 
> off the shelf things you can buy today.
>
> On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 12:39:17 PM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:
>
>> What about a 1x?
>> How do I calculate wrap for that?
>> I have two older bikes with the old trad 7spds cassette I’d like to 
>> replace with 13-42. The Altus has a max rear cog size of 36 but if I only 
>> do a 1x does it matter? Can I use the old derailleur, even?
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 8:00:26 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> As long as you're within the total capacity of the RD it could work with 
>>> one of those Wolf Tooth derailleur hanger extensions, called a Roadlink I 
>>> think. Others make them, but Wolfies and Wheels Mfg I know for sure use a 
>>> stainless steel bolt, while the other use aluminum.  The Wolfie helps to 
>>> clear the largest cog only, it doesn't add any capacity, that's for the 
>>> RD.  A 13-42 , at 29 teeth, doesn't leave much room for a triple with much 
>>> spread. 45t is what most mtb RD are ? That leaves 16t spread for the rings. 
>>> I for one never use certain combos of course so these "formulas" are 
>>> theoretical, actual use, if you know what you're doing, can go beyond all 
>>> that. "Know what you're doing" ... meaning  not running say a 26t small 
>>> cog and the last 3 cogs, and likewise, not using the big ring in at least 
>>> the 2 largest cogs, it really depends on the crank chainline and how much 
>>> you heed or ignore the horrible sound of cross angling of the chain. 
>>>
>>> A half step triple would work, like a 44/40/28 for example. The numbers 
>>> are off the top of my head, not a suggestion. Having the half step would 
>>> help split some of the large jumps in the cassette. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:11:11 PM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>
 Any one know if a 7 speed 42 would work with a long cage silver triple? 
 Or is it only compatible with a wide double? 

 Thanks 
 Samuel 

 Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Adding photos to Post

[J J]

Echoing aeroperf's suggestion to use the paperclip to attach photos. I've 
had issues posting photos using the Mail app on Mac and iPhone, but logging 
in to Google Groups with a browser allowed me to include photos, as 
aeroperf suggested.

On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 11:33:38 AM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:

> A couple of things to check that I have run into—
>
> There are three dots at the bottom of both your second post and Garth’s 
> post in this thread.
> When you click on that, it expands and shows the post that you are 
> “replying” to, even if you clicked “Reply all”.
> All that is also included in your post.
>
> So maybe you are “replying” to a post that is replying to a post…that each 
> already have photos attached…and so, your message is too long even if it is 
> only a couple of words.  All that other stuff goes along, and gets credited 
> to your post.
>
> Easiest way out of that is to put a couple of words or a sentence in your 
> post window, and check for the three dots in your post window, and click 
> them to expand, and then delete everything below your couple of words. 
>  That should give you a clean post to work with.
>
> Another thing I’ve found is that you can attach photos with the paperclip, 
> and that seems to sometimes work better for me on larger photos than the 
> in-line insertions.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Jim 7 speed cassette on a triple

[Garth]

The wrap for a 1x Yankeebird is whatever the spread is for the cassette 
alone, since there's no other ring there's no additional difference to 
account for. 

As for clearing the 42t cog, the only thing that matters is that the RD can 
clear it alright. The "how" that is done, well there are endless creative 
ways to do that with endless RD's ! With extenders you would be able to use 
a road RD. I know back in the 70's there was a bike shop in Missoula, MT 
that made custom extenders and freewheel cogs using Campy racing RD's I 
believe. They were really lng ! You'll be fine with most off the shelf 
things you can buy today.

On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 12:39:17 PM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:

> What about a 1x?
> How do I calculate wrap for that?
> I have two older bikes with the old trad 7spds cassette I’d like to 
> replace with 13-42. The Altus has a max rear cog size of 36 but if I only 
> do a 1x does it matter? Can I use the old derailleur, even?
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 8:00:26 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> As long as you're within the total capacity of the RD it could work with 
>> one of those Wolf Tooth derailleur hanger extensions, called a Roadlink I 
>> think. Others make them, but Wolfies and Wheels Mfg I know for sure use a 
>> stainless steel bolt, while the other use aluminum.  The Wolfie helps to 
>> clear the largest cog only, it doesn't add any capacity, that's for the 
>> RD.  A 13-42 , at 29 teeth, doesn't leave much room for a triple with much 
>> spread. 45t is what most mtb RD are ? That leaves 16t spread for the rings. 
>> I for one never use certain combos of course so these "formulas" are 
>> theoretical, actual use, if you know what you're doing, can go beyond all 
>> that. "Know what you're doing" ... meaning  not running say a 26t small 
>> cog and the last 3 cogs, and likewise, not using the big ring in at least 
>> the 2 largest cogs, it really depends on the crank chainline and how much 
>> you heed or ignore the horrible sound of cross angling of the chain. 
>>
>> A half step triple would work, like a 44/40/28 for example. The numbers 
>> are off the top of my head, not a suggestion. Having the half step would 
>> help split some of the large jumps in the cassette. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:11:11 PM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> Any one know if a 7 speed 42 would work with a long cage silver triple? 
>>> Or is it only compatible with a wide double? 
>>>
>>> Thanks 
>>> Samuel 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Parts

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

7 cm stem is sold. 

On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 7:53:37 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> I left out the Velo-orange smooth touring saddle.  Tried but not really 
> used. Excellent condition, $35 plus shipping 
>
> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 7:47:59 PM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I will crosspost to iBob list
>>
>> Pics here 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/84089808@N06/albums/72177720298612785
>>
>> All prices exclude shipping. That can be figured later
>>
>> Nitto Campee rear rack, had on bike for a bit years ago, never really 
>> used other than to hold a jacket.  My concern is shipping cost. $100 plus 
>> shipping
>>
>> Nitto Albatross CroMo for local pickup in western MA unless you buy it 
>> with the rack as both will fit the box I have, $50.  No picture. I can send 
>> one if interested. 
>>
>> 2 nitto technomic stems, I believe the same as Tallux.  7 cm, has signs 
>> of use, 9cm, minimal signs of use,  26.0, 225mm. $35 fot the 7cm, 40 fot 
>> the 9cm plus shipping
>>
>> MKS touring pedals (the real ones). So many shops sell MKS touring and 
>> they are all different. These have a nice sized platform.  I lightly used, 
>> $40, 1 new in package, $50, plus shipping. 
>>
>> 2 Suntour XCD 4050 triple front derailleurs, NIB, $45 plus shipping each.
>>
>> 2 sets Disacompe brake levers (the ones Riv sold) used, $25 plus shipping 
>> per set. 
>>
>> Suntour NOS XC Pro 32 hole rear hub, 130mm spacing for freewheel. $75 
>> plus shipping.
>>
>> 2 Suntour X-1 fron derailleurs, NOS, some shop wear. $25 plus shipping. 
>>
>> If prices seem high please contact me off list.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joel
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Jim 7 speed cassette on a triple

[Jared Wilson]

I have two bikes with Altus RDs shifting 11-42t 9 speed with derailleur 
extenders, but I've heard of people squeaking by without one.

On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 9:39:17 AM UTC-7 Yankeebird wrote:

> What about a 1x?
> How do I calculate wrap for that?
> I have two older bikes with the old trad 7spds cassette I’d like to 
> replace with 13-42. The Altus has a max rear cog size of 36 but if I only 
> do a 1x does it matter? Can I use the old derailleur, even?
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 8:00:26 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> As long as you're within the total capacity of the RD it could work with 
>> one of those Wolf Tooth derailleur hanger extensions, called a Roadlink I 
>> think. Others make them, but Wolfies and Wheels Mfg I know for sure use a 
>> stainless steel bolt, while the other use aluminum.  The Wolfie helps to 
>> clear the largest cog only, it doesn't add any capacity, that's for the 
>> RD.  A 13-42 , at 29 teeth, doesn't leave much room for a triple with much 
>> spread. 45t is what most mtb RD are ? That leaves 16t spread for the rings. 
>> I for one never use certain combos of course so these "formulas" are 
>> theoretical, actual use, if you know what you're doing, can go beyond all 
>> that. "Know what you're doing" ... meaning  not running say a 26t small 
>> cog and the last 3 cogs, and likewise, not using the big ring in at least 
>> the 2 largest cogs, it really depends on the crank chainline and how much 
>> you heed or ignore the horrible sound of cross angling of the chain. 
>>
>> A half step triple would work, like a 44/40/28 for example. The numbers 
>> are off the top of my head, not a suggestion. Having the half step would 
>> help split some of the large jumps in the cassette. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:11:11 PM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> Any one know if a 7 speed 42 would work with a long cage silver triple? 
>>> Or is it only compatible with a wide double? 
>>>
>>> Thanks 
>>> Samuel 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Jim 7 speed cassette on a triple

[Yankeebird]

What about a 1x?
How do I calculate wrap for that?
I have two older bikes with the old trad 7spds cassette I’d like to replace 
with 13-42. The Altus has a max rear cog size of 36 but if I only do a 1x 
does it matter? Can I use the old derailleur, even?

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 8:00:26 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> As long as you're within the total capacity of the RD it could work with 
> one of those Wolf Tooth derailleur hanger extensions, called a Roadlink I 
> think. Others make them, but Wolfies and Wheels Mfg I know for sure use a 
> stainless steel bolt, while the other use aluminum.  The Wolfie helps to 
> clear the largest cog only, it doesn't add any capacity, that's for the 
> RD.  A 13-42 , at 29 teeth, doesn't leave much room for a triple with much 
> spread. 45t is what most mtb RD are ? That leaves 16t spread for the rings. 
> I for one never use certain combos of course so these "formulas" are 
> theoretical, actual use, if you know what you're doing, can go beyond all 
> that. "Know what you're doing" ... meaning  not running say a 26t small 
> cog and the last 3 cogs, and likewise, not using the big ring in at least 
> the 2 largest cogs, it really depends on the crank chainline and how much 
> you heed or ignore the horrible sound of cross angling of the chain. 
>
> A half step triple would work, like a 44/40/28 for example. The numbers 
> are off the top of my head, not a suggestion. Having the half step would 
> help split some of the large jumps in the cassette. 
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:11:11 PM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:
>
>> Any one know if a 7 speed 42 would work with a long cage silver triple? 
>> Or is it only compatible with a wide double? 
>>
>> Thanks 
>> Samuel 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Adding photos to Post

[aeroperf]

A couple of things to check that I have run into—

There are three dots at the bottom of both your second post and Garth’s 
post in this thread.
When you click on that, it expands and shows the post that you are 
“replying” to, even if you clicked “Reply all”.
All that is also included in your post.

So maybe you are “replying” to a post that is replying to a post…that each 
already have photos attached…and so, your message is too long even if it is 
only a couple of words.  All that other stuff goes along, and gets credited 
to your post.

Easiest way out of that is to put a couple of words or a sentence in your 
post window, and check for the three dots in your post window, and click 
them to expand, and then delete everything below your couple of words. 
 That should give you a clean post to work with.

Another thing I’ve found is that you can attach photos with the paperclip, 
and that seems to sometimes work better for me on larger photos than the 
in-line insertions.

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[RBW] Re: Adding photos to Post

[Richard Borneman]

I tried that, resized to smallest size, converted to a link and still got 
the too large error. Some people can put multiple photos in their posts.
I can't add anything. 
Richard


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[RBW] Re: Adding photos to Post

[Garth]

If I'm not mistaken there is a size limit to how many mb's per posting. So 
if you try to post multiple or even single large photos over a certain 
amount, it might be 25mb ?, then you get that message. Just split the 
images into single or smaller individual posts. In the case of an overly 
large photo, you must downsize it first. 

On Saturday, May 7, 2022 at 8:21:42 AM UTC-4 rsb...@msn.com wrote:

> I have been using a Dell desktop running windows 10 an edge browser, also 
> have a Macbook Pro running Monterey. Doesn't seem to matter what I use, if 
> I put a photo in the post, I get the message too long error.
> I can't find anything in my Google groups settings that will change 
> things. Some posts have multiple photos in them.
> Is there something in membership settings that would cause this problem?
> Sitting home on a rainy Saturday, getting ready to change some water in my 
> aquarium and work on my garage addition permit drawings.
> Richard
> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 5:48:59 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> Richard, Since there are many variations of operating systems, devices 
>> and browsers/apps it would help if you state exactly what you're using to 
>> access the group. The device format, the OS, the browser or app. That way 
>> you can get a specific answer. 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 5:35:10 AM UTC-4 rsb...@msn.com wrote:
>>
>>> I can't add photos to a post. Keep getting the conversation too long 
>>> error window.
>>> What is the secret? 
>>> I have tried adding a link to a photo with the same result.
>>> Richard
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

[Richard Rose]

I put a t rack on my Clem for this exact reason. Supports a Wald nicely & I can 
mount my OvejaNegra Bootlegger bags.

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> On May 6, 2022, at 2:13 AM, brendonoid  wrote:
> 
> 
> The Hive mind here is real. I was thinking the T-rack would be perfect on the 
> Susie since it isn't supposed to carry much weight. I thought a t-rack on the 
> front fork (the strongest part) would be the safest way to have a basket and 
> some manythings cages for a lightweight/overnighter/explore type of ride.
> I hope there is some news in the email tomorrow.
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[RBW] Re: Adding photos to Post

[Richard Borneman]

I have been using a Dell desktop running windows 10 an edge browser, also 
have a Macbook Pro running Monterey. Doesn't seem to matter what I use, if 
I put a photo in the post, I get the message too long error.
I can't find anything in my Google groups settings that will change things. 
Some posts have multiple photos in them.
Is there something in membership settings that would cause this problem?
Sitting home on a rainy Saturday, getting ready to change some water in my 
aquarium and work on my garage addition permit drawings.
Richard
On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 5:48:59 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> Richard, Since there are many variations of operating systems, devices and 
> browsers/apps it would help if you state exactly what you're using to 
> access the group. The device format, the OS, the browser or app. That way 
> you can get a specific answer. 
>
>
> On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 5:35:10 AM UTC-4 rsb...@msn.com wrote:
>
>> I can't add photos to a post. Keep getting the conversation too long 
>> error window.
>> What is the secret? 
>> I have tried adding a link to a photo with the same result.
>> Richard
>>
>

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