[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Matthew Williams]

A. HOMER HILSEN
F/F/HS, 58cm
1200
Los Angeles, CA
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-cm-650b-rivendell-homer/7505045725.html

===

ATLANTIS
2, small (contact owner for size)
2000
Santa Cruz, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendell-atlantis-serial/7498362464.html

59cm
2400
Concordia, OR
https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-2018-rivendell-atlantis-with/7509316732.html

56cm
2850
Tomahawk, WI
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/d/tomahawk-56cm-toyo-built-rivendell/7507454251.html

64cm
3200
Skagit, WA
https://skagit.craigslist.org/bik/d/clinton-excellent-condition-64cm/7501649890.html

===

CHEVIOT
60cm
2600
Washington, DC
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/arlington-rivendell-cheviot-60cm/7505379979.html

===

CLEM SMITH
H, 59cm
3300
San Jose, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/d/san-jose-for-sale-rivendell-clem-smith/7508905759.html

L F/F/HS, 64cm
950
Blacksburg, VT
https://blacksburg.craigslist.org/bik/d/blacksburg-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-64/7503831566.html

L, 55cm
1750
New York, NY
https://ksu.craigslist.org/bik/d/new-york-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7509299017.html

===

PLATYPUS
60cm
2450
Santa Barbara, CA
https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/bik/d/santa-barbara-rivendell-platypus-60cm/7497658896.html

===

ROADINI
54cm
1450
Santa Monica, CA
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/bik/d/santa-monica-54cm-commuter/7509618695.html

===

ROAD STANDARD
59cm
1000
Redondo Beach, CA
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/redondo-beach-rivendell-road-standard/7488579758.html

===

SAM HILLBORNE
F/F/HS, 58cm
1100
Oakland, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/oakland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-58cm/7507223700.html

62cm
2500
Kittery, ME
https://maine.craigslist.org/bik/d/kittery-rivendell-sam-hillborne-62cm/7504230398.html

54cm
3600
Philadelphia, PA
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/d/ardmore-rivendell-sam-hillborne-54cm-1x/7506726057.html

58cm
1600
Ocala, FL
https://ocala.craigslist.org/bik/d/summerfield-sam-hillborne/7509232880.html

62cm
2400
Bloomington, IN
https://bloomington.craigslist.org/bik/d/clear-creek-rivendell-sam/7507623509.html

62cm
1300
Austin, TX
https://austin.craigslist.org/bik/d/cedar-park-rivendell-sam-hillborne-62cm/7506897362.html

52cm
2400
Tucson, AZ
https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/d/tucson-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7501262613.html

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[RBW] Re: WTT My 59cm 2019 Atlantis (frame or complete) for....something bigger!

[Ray Varella]

Andrew,
Rivendell has the 62cm Atlantis in stock in case you can’t find a trading 
partner. 

Ray
On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 8:46:32 PM UTC-7 Andrew S wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I think this counts as my first official post, but I've responded to a few 
> incidental things and purchased (thanks Paul!) and sold (thanks Mackenzy!) 
> a Clem L, and the aforementioned Atlantis (thanks Bryan!) from list 
> members. 
>
> I'm feeling a little chagrined because I've finally come to the conclusion 
> that I'd been suspecting for a while, namely that I really wish I'd held 
> out for a 62 Atlantis in the new geometry. But I also dearly love my big 
> SimpleOne (which is admittedly confusingit seems that they topped out 
> at 62cm according to literature, but it was sold to me as a 64 and true to 
> form measures 64cm CTT), and would be easily swayed by a sufficiently large 
> earlier model (to be honest I'm as yet kind of on the fence about the 'new' 
> geometry).  
>
> So.hoping that someone may perhaps be moving the other way, and 
> wondering if a trade could be engineered whereby you'd receive my 59cm 
> Atlantis frameset (2019, excellent shape, no issues that I'm aware of), for 
> youroh, say, 62cm new Atlantis, 64cm older Atlantis, 62cm Hunqapillar 
> (the dream!) or, really, potentially any 60-something frame depending on 
> the details. Bonus points for double top tubes or even more for diagatube). 
> Also happy to discuss a swap of full or partial builds. 
>
> Failing that, I'd be open to the possibility of a sale, complete or any 
> portion thereof. It's a slightly nicer than Riv-typical build, happy to 
> provide details as desired. Fun mix of Paul and NItto bits with a couple of 
> highlights (Ritchey Logic cranks with Stridsland bolts, etc). I'm in 
> Calgary Alberta, so shipping is going to be even more of a pain than usual, 
> but depending on the details I'd be willing to compensate accordingly or 
> even perhaps use it as justification for a trip to Whitefish to ship and 
> receive.
>
> Thanks for letting me bend your ear/eye!
>
> andrew
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Brian Turner]

Great turnout with such cool bikes! My wife has that same red Soma Buena Vista 
mixte and I’ve always thought it would be right at home amongst a crowd of 
Rivendells.

> On Jul 16, 2022, at 11:07 PM, Roberta  wrote:
> 
> The ride pictures and your descriptions helped me feel the joy of meeting  
> everyone and going on a great ride together. 
> 
> Beautiful bikes. 
> 
> Btw, I did noice that Steve, Ryan and Max dressed to match their bikes; nice 
> touch for pics. 
> 
> Roberta
> 
>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:31:05 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10 riders! 
>> We rode the KalHaven Trail, a rail trail that spans the 34 miles between 
>> Kalamazoo and South Haven. Eight of the ten riders brought Rivendells, most 
>> had seen a lot of miles. The oldest bike was the ‘97 or ‘98 orange Custom, 
>> and the newest was my 2020 Platypus.
>> 
>> Here is the lineup, alphabetized:
>> 2 Appaloosas 
>> 1 Atlantis (in custom green paint)
>> 1 Custom orange Rivendell
>> 1 Homer
>> 1 Hunq
>> 1 Platypus
>> 1 Quickbeam
>> 
>> And one Nobilette and a Soma mixte.
>> 
>> It was great weather and good company, and we continued our fellowship at a 
>> local brewery post-ride. It was nice for Marc and me to meet everyone in 
>> real life and admire their bikes. We are planning our next ride for fall 
>> colors on the White Pine Trail. I bet it’s as pretty as it sounds.
>> 
>> Photos in the next post, so wacky Google Groups doesn’t get the opportunity 
>> to turn all my photos sideways.
>> 
>> Leah
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[RBW] Re: Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Roberta]

The ride pictures and your descriptions helped me feel the joy of meeting 
 everyone and going on a great ride together. 

Beautiful bikes. 

Btw, I did noice that Steve, Ryan and Max dressed to match their bikes; 
nice touch for pics. 

Roberta

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:31:05 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10 
> riders! We rode the KalHaven Trail, a rail trail that spans the 34 miles 
> between Kalamazoo and South Haven. Eight of the ten riders brought 
> Rivendells, most had seen a lot of miles. The oldest bike was the ‘97 or 
> ‘98 orange Custom, and the newest was my 2020 Platypus.
>
> Here is the lineup, alphabetized:
> 2 Appaloosas 
> 1 Atlantis (in custom green paint)
> 1 Custom orange Rivendell
> 1 Homer
> 1 Hunq
> 1 Platypus
> 1 Quickbeam
>
> And one Nobilette and a Soma mixte.
>
> It was great weather and good company, and we continued our fellowship at 
> a local brewery post-ride. It was nice for Marc and me to meet everyone in 
> real life and admire their bikes. We are planning our next ride for fall 
> colors on the White Pine Trail. I bet it’s as pretty as it sounds.
>
> Photos in the next post, so wacky Google Groups doesn’t get the 
> opportunity to turn all my photos sideways.
>
> Leah
>

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Re: [RBW] Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Joe Bernard]

I love the black Hunqapillar, I've seen another one around here in years 
past (maybe it was a Bombadil) with full racks and lights..so cool.

Thanks for all the pics Riv Ambassador Leah, it looks like you guys (and 
one lady) had a grand time! 

Joe Bernard 

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:19:56 PM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:

> Since Marc's Hunqapillar is now black, my gray/orange 54cm is even more 
> rare!  His was the only other one I know about, although one of the 54 
> prototypes has the orange accents, so it may be out there somewhere.  
>
> To be honest, I've long thought of changing mine to black.  I'm not big on 
> conspicuous appearances and prefer a bike that is neutral and generally 
> goes unnoticed.  
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:00:48 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Bike portraits. I told everyone I wanted a photo with rider + bike, and 9 
>> out of 10 complied willingly. Marc, Lone Wolf forever, protested pitifully 
>> but the Platypus Rider nagged so he gave in.
>>
>> This is Max. He came from Ann Arbor and brought us a Quickbeam to admire. 
>> Max is quick on his Quickbeam. When I realized we were going to be late for 
>> our reservation, I left the group to race ahead so as to get our table 
>> secured. Josh joined me and Max came from behind and left us in the dust. 
>> He doesn’t even ride with his hands on his handlebars.
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Ryan (Muskegon, MI) brought a giant purple Nobilette. His saddle sits at 
>> about my shoulder. 
>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> Josh (Grand Rapids, MI) works for Velocity! He has a custom-color 
>> Atlantis that he cherishes. He keeps it squeaky clean but we trashed it 
>> with limestone dust and now his chain squeaks. He was a good sport.
>> [image: image2.jpeg]
>>
>> Ben has a custom orange Rivendell. He has lots of bikes, several are 
>> Rivs, and when I asked if this was his favorite he said, “It is my 
>> *first.*” He built it as a single speed, so I said I would ride mine in 
>> a single gear (the hardest) for the whole ride in solidarity, but I had to 
>> shift once on the incline as I raced to the restaurant. It was shift or 
>> die. Or worse, forfeit our table at the brewery.
>> [image: image9.jpeg]
>>
>> Red mixte riders, unite! Tom (Grand Rapids) brought us a red Soma to 
>> admire. I have a weakness for the red bikes. He also brought Marc and me 
>> each a dozen eggs from his chickens. He changed into clean clothes for 
>> dinner and the rest of us sat in our sweaty clothes.
>> [image: image3.jpeg]
>>
>> Steve came all the way from Chicago and brought his very tall Homer. That 
>> blue is so pretty in real life. 
>> [image: image4.jpeg]
>>
>> This is Paul (Kalamazoo), who goes by Doc. He is a real doctor, a retired 
>> emergency room physician, and this pretty Appaloosa is his retirement gift 
>> to himself. 
>> [image: image5.jpeg]
>>
>> Dennis (I didn’t catch what city he drove in from) brought a silvery 
>> Appaloosa that we all thought looked fantastic with its hammered  Honjo 
>> fenders. He doesn’t keep cars in his garage. Only his bikes.
>> [image: image6.jpeg]
>>
>> Here is the Lone Wolf, Marc Irwin! I think he smiled so well for the 
>> camera even though it nearly killed him. He’s got a black powder-coated 
>> Hunq with new black fenders. He once told me this is the bike he will die 
>> with. I usually see him on his Sam, but the Hunq is his favorite. All 
>> Marc’s parts fall off or break eventually. He rides thousands of miles in 
>> all weather; what else would you expect of a Lone Wolf?
>> [image: image7.jpeg]
>>
>> And finally, me. You have heard enough about this Platypus. This was my 
>> first Rivendell Ride, and first time helping to organize one. I wish I had 
>> had tee shirts made. 
>> [image: image8.jpeg]
>>
>> Up next: fork crown pics!
>> Leah
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10 
>> riders! We rode the KalHaven Trail, a rail trail that spans the 34 miles 
>> between Kalamazoo and South Haven. Eight of the ten riders brought 
>> Rivendells, most had seen a lot of miles. The oldest bike was the ‘97 or 
>> ‘98 orange Custom, and the newest was my 2020 Platypus.
>>
>>
>> Here is the lineup, alphabetized:
>> 2 Appaloosas 
>> 1 Atlantis (in custom green paint)
>> 1 Custom orange Rivendell
>> 1 Homer
>> 1 Hunq
>> 1 Platypus
>> 1 Quickbeam
>>
>> And one Nobilette and a Soma mixte.
>>
>> It was great weather and good company, and we continued our fellowship at 
>> a local brewery post-ride. It was nice for Marc and me to meet everyone in 
>> real life and admire their bikes. We are planning our next ride for fall 
>> colors on the White Pine Trail. I bet it’s as pretty as it sounds.
>>
>> Photos in the next post, so wacky Google Groups doesn’t get the 
>> opportunity to turn all my photos sideways.
>>
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Leah Peterson]

Ray - on that custom? I KNOW. It was just glorious. 

I’d happily be the Riv ambassador! Who wants to pay me?!
L

> On Jul 16, 2022, at 10:20 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
> 
> 
> P.S. That orange metallic gets my (thoroughly subjective) vote for the best 
> color of the day. 
> 
>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 7:18:21 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>> That looks like a lot of fun. 
>> Leah, you could an ambassador for Riv who travels around and organizes these 
>> sorts of rides. 
>> I doubt that sort of position exists…but still. 
>> 
>> Ray “not far north of Riv World Headquarters”
>> 
>>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:19:56 PM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:
>>> Since Marc's Hunqapillar is now black, my gray/orange 54cm is even more 
>>> rare!  His was the only other one I know about, although one of the 54 
>>> prototypes has the orange accents, so it may be out there somewhere.  
>>> 
>>> To be honest, I've long thought of changing mine to black.  I'm not big on 
>>> conspicuous appearances and prefer a bike that is neutral and generally 
>>> goes unnoticed.  
>>> 
 On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:00:48 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 Bike portraits. I told everyone I wanted a photo with rider + bike, and 9 
 out of 10 complied willingly. Marc, Lone Wolf forever, protested pitifully 
 but the Platypus Rider nagged so he gave in.
 
 This is Max. He came from Ann Arbor and brought us a Quickbeam to admire. 
 Max is quick on his Quickbeam. When I realized we were going to be late 
 for our reservation, I left the group to race ahead so as to get our table 
 secured. Josh joined me and Max came from behind and left us in the dust. 
 He doesn’t even ride with his hands on his handlebars.
 
 
 Ryan (Muskegon, MI) brought a giant purple Nobilette. His saddle sits at 
 about my shoulder. 
 
 
 
 Josh (Grand Rapids, MI) works for Velocity! He has a custom-color Atlantis 
 that he cherishes. He keeps it squeaky clean but we trashed it with 
 limestone dust and now his chain squeaks. He was a good sport.
 
 
 Ben has a custom orange Rivendell. He has lots of bikes, several are Rivs, 
 and when I asked if this was his favorite he said, “It is my first.” He 
 built it as a single speed, so I said I would ride mine in a single gear 
 (the hardest) for the whole ride in solidarity, but I had to shift once on 
 the incline as I raced to the restaurant. It was shift or die. Or worse, 
 forfeit our table at the brewery.
 
 
 Red mixte riders, unite! Tom (Grand Rapids) brought us a red Soma to 
 admire. I have a weakness for the red bikes. He also brought Marc and me 
 each a dozen eggs from his chickens. He changed into clean clothes for 
 dinner and the rest of us sat in our sweaty clothes.
 
 
 Steve came all the way from Chicago and brought his very tall Homer. That 
 blue is so pretty in real life. 
 
 
 This is Paul (Kalamazoo), who goes by Doc. He is a real doctor, a retired 
 emergency room physician, and this pretty Appaloosa is his retirement gift 
 to himself. 
 
 
 Dennis (I didn’t catch what city he drove in from) brought a silvery 
 Appaloosa that we all thought looked fantastic with its hammered  Honjo 
 fenders. He doesn’t keep cars in his garage. Only his bikes.
 
 
 Here is the Lone Wolf, Marc Irwin! I think he smiled so well for the 
 camera even though it nearly killed him. He’s got a black powder-coated 
 Hunq with new black fenders. He once told me this is the bike he will die 
 with. I usually see him on his Sam, but the Hunq is his favorite. All 
 Marc’s parts fall off or break eventually. He rides thousands of miles in 
 all weather; what else would you expect of a Lone Wolf?
 
 
 And finally, me. You have heard enough about this Platypus. This was my 
 first Rivendell Ride, and first time helping to organize one. I wish I had 
 had tee shirts made. 
 
 
 Up next: fork crown pics!
 Leah
 
> On Jul 16, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote:
> 
 
> We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10 
> riders! We rode the KalHaven Trail, a rail trail that spans the 34 miles 
> between Kalamazoo and South Haven. Eight of the ten riders brought 
> Rivendells, most had seen a lot of miles. The oldest bike was the ‘97 or 
> ‘98 orange Custom, and the newest was my 2020 Platypus.
 
> 
> Here is the lineup, alphabetized:
> 2 Appaloosas 
> 1 Atlantis (in custom green paint)
> 1 Custom orange Rivendell
> 1 Homer
> 1 Hunq
> 1 Platypus
> 1 Quickbeam
> 
> And one Nobilette and a Soma mixte.
> 
> It was great weather and good company, and we continued our fellowship at 
> a local brewery post-ride. It was nice for Marc and m

Re: [RBW] Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Ray Varella]

P.S. That orange metallic gets my (thoroughly subjective) vote for the best 
color of the day. 

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 7:18:21 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> That looks like a lot of fun. 
> Leah, you could an ambassador for Riv who travels around and organizes 
> these sorts of rides. 
> I doubt that sort of position exists…but still. 
>
> Ray “not far north of Riv World Headquarters”
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:19:56 PM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:
>
>> Since Marc's Hunqapillar is now black, my gray/orange 54cm is even more 
>> rare!  His was the only other one I know about, although one of the 54 
>> prototypes has the orange accents, so it may be out there somewhere.  
>>
>> To be honest, I've long thought of changing mine to black.  I'm not big 
>> on conspicuous appearances and prefer a bike that is neutral and generally 
>> goes unnoticed.  
>>
>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:00:48 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bike portraits. I told everyone I wanted a photo with rider + bike, and 
>>> 9 out of 10 complied willingly. Marc, Lone Wolf forever, protested 
>>> pitifully but the Platypus Rider nagged so he gave in.
>>>
>>> This is Max. He came from Ann Arbor and brought us a Quickbeam to 
>>> admire. Max is quick on his Quickbeam. When I realized we were going to be 
>>> late for our reservation, I left the group to race ahead so as to get our 
>>> table secured. Josh joined me and Max came from behind and left us in the 
>>> dust. He doesn’t even ride with his hands on his handlebars.
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Ryan (Muskegon, MI) brought a giant purple Nobilette. His saddle sits at 
>>> about my shoulder. 
>>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh (Grand Rapids, MI) works for Velocity! He has a custom-color 
>>> Atlantis that he cherishes. He keeps it squeaky clean but we trashed it 
>>> with limestone dust and now his chain squeaks. He was a good sport.
>>> [image: image2.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Ben has a custom orange Rivendell. He has lots of bikes, several are 
>>> Rivs, and when I asked if this was his favorite he said, “It is my 
>>> *first.*” He built it as a single speed, so I said I would ride mine in 
>>> a single gear (the hardest) for the whole ride in solidarity, but I had to 
>>> shift once on the incline as I raced to the restaurant. It was shift or 
>>> die. Or worse, forfeit our table at the brewery.
>>> [image: image9.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Red mixte riders, unite! Tom (Grand Rapids) brought us a red Soma to 
>>> admire. I have a weakness for the red bikes. He also brought Marc and me 
>>> each a dozen eggs from his chickens. He changed into clean clothes for 
>>> dinner and the rest of us sat in our sweaty clothes.
>>> [image: image3.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Steve came all the way from Chicago and brought his very tall Homer. 
>>> That blue is so pretty in real life. 
>>> [image: image4.jpeg]
>>>
>>> This is Paul (Kalamazoo), who goes by Doc. He is a real doctor, a 
>>> retired emergency room physician, and this pretty Appaloosa is his 
>>> retirement gift to himself. 
>>> [image: image5.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Dennis (I didn’t catch what city he drove in from) brought a silvery 
>>> Appaloosa that we all thought looked fantastic with its hammered  Honjo 
>>> fenders. He doesn’t keep cars in his garage. Only his bikes.
>>> [image: image6.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Here is the Lone Wolf, Marc Irwin! I think he smiled so well for the 
>>> camera even though it nearly killed him. He’s got a black powder-coated 
>>> Hunq with new black fenders. He once told me this is the bike he will die 
>>> with. I usually see him on his Sam, but the Hunq is his favorite. All 
>>> Marc’s parts fall off or break eventually. He rides thousands of miles in 
>>> all weather; what else would you expect of a Lone Wolf?
>>> [image: image7.jpeg]
>>>
>>> And finally, me. You have heard enough about this Platypus. This was my 
>>> first Rivendell Ride, and first time helping to organize one. I wish I had 
>>> had tee shirts made. 
>>> [image: image8.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Up next: fork crown pics!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10 
>>> riders! We rode the KalHaven Trail, a rail trail that spans the 34 miles 
>>> between Kalamazoo and South Haven. Eight of the ten riders brought 
>>> Rivendells, most had seen a lot of miles. The oldest bike was the ‘97 or 
>>> ‘98 orange Custom, and the newest was my 2020 Platypus.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the lineup, alphabetized:
>>> 2 Appaloosas 
>>> 1 Atlantis (in custom green paint)
>>> 1 Custom orange Rivendell
>>> 1 Homer
>>> 1 Hunq
>>> 1 Platypus
>>> 1 Quickbeam
>>>
>>> And one Nobilette and a Soma mixte.
>>>
>>> It was great weather and good company, and we continued our fellowship 
>>> at a local brewery post-ride. It was nice for Marc and me to meet everyone 
>>> in real life and admire their bikes. We are planning our next ride for fall 
>>> colors

Re: [RBW] Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Ray Varella]

That looks like a lot of fun. 
Leah, you could an ambassador for Riv who travels around and organizes 
these sorts of rides. 
I doubt that sort of position exists…but still. 

Ray “not far north of Riv World Headquarters”

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:19:56 PM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:

> Since Marc's Hunqapillar is now black, my gray/orange 54cm is even more 
> rare!  His was the only other one I know about, although one of the 54 
> prototypes has the orange accents, so it may be out there somewhere.  
>
> To be honest, I've long thought of changing mine to black.  I'm not big on 
> conspicuous appearances and prefer a bike that is neutral and generally 
> goes unnoticed.  
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:00:48 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Bike portraits. I told everyone I wanted a photo with rider + bike, and 9 
>> out of 10 complied willingly. Marc, Lone Wolf forever, protested pitifully 
>> but the Platypus Rider nagged so he gave in.
>>
>> This is Max. He came from Ann Arbor and brought us a Quickbeam to admire. 
>> Max is quick on his Quickbeam. When I realized we were going to be late for 
>> our reservation, I left the group to race ahead so as to get our table 
>> secured. Josh joined me and Max came from behind and left us in the dust. 
>> He doesn’t even ride with his hands on his handlebars.
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Ryan (Muskegon, MI) brought a giant purple Nobilette. His saddle sits at 
>> about my shoulder. 
>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> Josh (Grand Rapids, MI) works for Velocity! He has a custom-color 
>> Atlantis that he cherishes. He keeps it squeaky clean but we trashed it 
>> with limestone dust and now his chain squeaks. He was a good sport.
>> [image: image2.jpeg]
>>
>> Ben has a custom orange Rivendell. He has lots of bikes, several are 
>> Rivs, and when I asked if this was his favorite he said, “It is my 
>> *first.*” He built it as a single speed, so I said I would ride mine in 
>> a single gear (the hardest) for the whole ride in solidarity, but I had to 
>> shift once on the incline as I raced to the restaurant. It was shift or 
>> die. Or worse, forfeit our table at the brewery.
>> [image: image9.jpeg]
>>
>> Red mixte riders, unite! Tom (Grand Rapids) brought us a red Soma to 
>> admire. I have a weakness for the red bikes. He also brought Marc and me 
>> each a dozen eggs from his chickens. He changed into clean clothes for 
>> dinner and the rest of us sat in our sweaty clothes.
>> [image: image3.jpeg]
>>
>> Steve came all the way from Chicago and brought his very tall Homer. That 
>> blue is so pretty in real life. 
>> [image: image4.jpeg]
>>
>> This is Paul (Kalamazoo), who goes by Doc. He is a real doctor, a retired 
>> emergency room physician, and this pretty Appaloosa is his retirement gift 
>> to himself. 
>> [image: image5.jpeg]
>>
>> Dennis (I didn’t catch what city he drove in from) brought a silvery 
>> Appaloosa that we all thought looked fantastic with its hammered  Honjo 
>> fenders. He doesn’t keep cars in his garage. Only his bikes.
>> [image: image6.jpeg]
>>
>> Here is the Lone Wolf, Marc Irwin! I think he smiled so well for the 
>> camera even though it nearly killed him. He’s got a black powder-coated 
>> Hunq with new black fenders. He once told me this is the bike he will die 
>> with. I usually see him on his Sam, but the Hunq is his favorite. All 
>> Marc’s parts fall off or break eventually. He rides thousands of miles in 
>> all weather; what else would you expect of a Lone Wolf?
>> [image: image7.jpeg]
>>
>> And finally, me. You have heard enough about this Platypus. This was my 
>> first Rivendell Ride, and first time helping to organize one. I wish I had 
>> had tee shirts made. 
>> [image: image8.jpeg]
>>
>> Up next: fork crown pics!
>> Leah
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10 
>> riders! We rode the KalHaven Trail, a rail trail that spans the 34 miles 
>> between Kalamazoo and South Haven. Eight of the ten riders brought 
>> Rivendells, most had seen a lot of miles. The oldest bike was the ‘97 or 
>> ‘98 orange Custom, and the newest was my 2020 Platypus.
>>
>>
>> Here is the lineup, alphabetized:
>> 2 Appaloosas 
>> 1 Atlantis (in custom green paint)
>> 1 Custom orange Rivendell
>> 1 Homer
>> 1 Hunq
>> 1 Platypus
>> 1 Quickbeam
>>
>> And one Nobilette and a Soma mixte.
>>
>> It was great weather and good company, and we continued our fellowship at 
>> a local brewery post-ride. It was nice for Marc and me to meet everyone in 
>> real life and admire their bikes. We are planning our next ride for fall 
>> colors on the White Pine Trail. I bet it’s as pretty as it sounds.
>>
>> Photos in the next post, so wacky Google Groups doesn’t get the 
>> opportunity to turn all my photos sideways.
>>
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: 56+ before 55!

[Ray Varella]

That’s a really beautiful area Drew. 
I was down that way for work on Thursday and pulled over near Crystal 
Springs to take a call. 
While I was sitting there I watched a Bald Eagle come up from the reservoir 
with a freshly caught fish. 
He/she circled for several loops gaining altitude and then headed north. 
I don’t know if there is a nesting pair there but this bird had full adult 
plumage. 
Keep your eye out for any sightings, they are such majestic creatures. 

Lots of nice shots in your album, thank you for sharing and wishing you 
good health. 

A little tip for the others, you can usually avoid the crowds at Alice’s 
Restaurant by taking a seat over near the group W bench. 
Yes, there really is a group W bench there. 

Ray

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 10:20:25 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Your custom is a beauty! Nice classic parts...especially the older Ritchey 
> Logic crankset
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 11:53:56 AM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> For more pics of the Red Riv, here are all of my Flickr photos with the 
>> tag "Rivendell" (I confirmed these are all public and don't require an 
>> account to view): 
>> https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=26797636%40N05&sort=date-taken-desc&text=rivendell&view_all=1
>>
>> The jersey is from Pearl Izumi, from maybe 2008-2010? They had just 
>> stopped making Sesame Street jerseys, so some were available for cheap from 
>> the PI factory outlet, and I got one of the last in Medium. I also have 
>> matching socks, and Cookie Monster socks too!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 9:22:33 AM UTC-7 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>
>>> Leah: here’s my ancient web page on my 1996/2000 Rivendell: 
>>> https://web.stanford.edu/~dru/myriv.html
>>> I really need to update that with new photos and a parts list.
>>>
>>> Joel: I hope that I don’t have to retire my Riv for many years, but some 
>>> day it may have to become a wall decoration, presuming that my wife would 
>>> allow it!
>>>
>>> Drew
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 7:19:40 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>>

 Keep pushing.  I have a few years on you, 2 back surgeries, a replaced 
 knee.  I had to take 10 years off after my second back surgery then covid 
 came and I started riding again.  Of course I sold my custom, my AR and 1 
 of my Bleriot by then.  I had 2 years of riding and had a mishap this year 
 and have been off the bike for 2 months, my other knee, so rest and ice. 
  My mileage and speed have decreased but as I am approaching 71 I will be 
 just fine with my 12-17 mile rides when I get back on the bike.  

 Sorry you’ve had to go through your medical issues, never easy.  Ride 
 every day you can and take comfort as you roll down the road. A truly 
 beautiful bike, I hope you enjoy it for many more years.  
 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 9:41:05 PM UTC-4 Drew Saunders wrote:

> For the past few years, I've tried to ride my age or more on or about 
> my birthday (this Sunday, the 17th, a.k.a. "World Emoji Day!"). Although 
> not as impressive as crossing the country, it was still a good ride today.
>
> In 2017, instead of riding 50+ miles for my 50th birthday, I spent my 
> birthday in the hospital due to a bad reaction to Xeloda, my first 
> chemotherapy drug. Oh, did I mention that in April of 2017 I found out 
> that 
> I had adenocarcinoma of the descending colon? I had the colectomy at the 
> end of May, and started chemo at the end of June (and re-started it at 
> the 
> end of July with a different drug). That'll put a damper in your riding 
> plans any day! 
>
> I was able to do a 53 mile ride before turning 51 in 2018, and a 55 
> mile ride before turning 52 in 2019. I found my fitness dropping 
> unexpectedly in 2020, but eventually figured out that it was due to 
> working 
> from home and no longer walking or biking to work (which is only 2 miles 
> each way, but it adds up). I added a neighborhood walk to my morning 
> routine and improved my fitness, but wasn't able to get in a 53+ mile 
> ride 
> for 2020. Then, in November 2020 (Friday the 13th, of course) I found out 
> that my cancer had returned in a single tumor in my liver. That (along 
> with 
> 1/4 of my liver) was removed at the end of December.
>
> 2021 was the year of regrowing my liver, so no long ride that July! I 
> still got in some medium rides, but didn't make 54KM, much less 54 miles 
> for any of them.
>
> I set out this morning to do a variation on the same 53 and 55 mile 
> ride I had done in 2018 and 2019, just with a little more at each end. 
> For 
> the locals, this is Cañada road to the end, then meander through 
> Woodside, 
> Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills, then Foothill Expressway/Steven's 
> Canyon Road and turn around at the Lakeshore Picnic Area then hom

Re: [RBW] Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Chris L]

Since Marc's Hunqapillar is now black, my gray/orange 54cm is even more 
rare!  His was the only other one I know about, although one of the 54 
prototypes has the orange accents, so it may be out there somewhere.  

To be honest, I've long thought of changing mine to black.  I'm not big on 
conspicuous appearances and prefer a bike that is neutral and generally 
goes unnoticed.  

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:00:48 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Bike portraits. I told everyone I wanted a photo with rider + bike, and 9 
> out of 10 complied willingly. Marc, Lone Wolf forever, protested pitifully 
> but the Platypus Rider nagged so he gave in.
>
> This is Max. He came from Ann Arbor and brought us a Quickbeam to admire. 
> Max is quick on his Quickbeam. When I realized we were going to be late for 
> our reservation, I left the group to race ahead so as to get our table 
> secured. Josh joined me and Max came from behind and left us in the dust. 
> He doesn’t even ride with his hands on his handlebars.
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Ryan (Muskegon, MI) brought a giant purple Nobilette. His saddle sits at 
> about my shoulder. 
> [image: image1.jpeg]
>
>
> Josh (Grand Rapids, MI) works for Velocity! He has a custom-color Atlantis 
> that he cherishes. He keeps it squeaky clean but we trashed it with 
> limestone dust and now his chain squeaks. He was a good sport.
> [image: image2.jpeg]
>
> Ben has a custom orange Rivendell. He has lots of bikes, several are Rivs, 
> and when I asked if this was his favorite he said, “It is my *first.*” He 
> built it as a single speed, so I said I would ride mine in a single gear 
> (the hardest) for the whole ride in solidarity, but I had to shift once on 
> the incline as I raced to the restaurant. It was shift or die. Or worse, 
> forfeit our table at the brewery.
> [image: image9.jpeg]
>
> Red mixte riders, unite! Tom (Grand Rapids) brought us a red Soma to 
> admire. I have a weakness for the red bikes. He also brought Marc and me 
> each a dozen eggs from his chickens. He changed into clean clothes for 
> dinner and the rest of us sat in our sweaty clothes.
> [image: image3.jpeg]
>
> Steve came all the way from Chicago and brought his very tall Homer. That 
> blue is so pretty in real life. 
> [image: image4.jpeg]
>
> This is Paul (Kalamazoo), who goes by Doc. He is a real doctor, a retired 
> emergency room physician, and this pretty Appaloosa is his retirement gift 
> to himself. 
> [image: image5.jpeg]
>
> Dennis (I didn’t catch what city he drove in from) brought a silvery 
> Appaloosa that we all thought looked fantastic with its hammered  Honjo 
> fenders. He doesn’t keep cars in his garage. Only his bikes.
> [image: image6.jpeg]
>
> Here is the Lone Wolf, Marc Irwin! I think he smiled so well for the 
> camera even though it nearly killed him. He’s got a black powder-coated 
> Hunq with new black fenders. He once told me this is the bike he will die 
> with. I usually see him on his Sam, but the Hunq is his favorite. All 
> Marc’s parts fall off or break eventually. He rides thousands of miles in 
> all weather; what else would you expect of a Lone Wolf?
> [image: image7.jpeg]
>
> And finally, me. You have heard enough about this Platypus. This was my 
> first Rivendell Ride, and first time helping to organize one. I wish I had 
> had tee shirts made. 
> [image: image8.jpeg]
>
> Up next: fork crown pics!
> Leah
>
> On Jul 16, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10 
> riders! We rode the KalHaven Trail, a rail trail that spans the 34 miles 
> between Kalamazoo and South Haven. Eight of the ten riders brought 
> Rivendells, most had seen a lot of miles. The oldest bike was the ‘97 or 
> ‘98 orange Custom, and the newest was my 2020 Platypus.
>
>
> Here is the lineup, alphabetized:
> 2 Appaloosas 
> 1 Atlantis (in custom green paint)
> 1 Custom orange Rivendell
> 1 Homer
> 1 Hunq
> 1 Platypus
> 1 Quickbeam
>
> And one Nobilette and a Soma mixte.
>
> It was great weather and good company, and we continued our fellowship at 
> a local brewery post-ride. It was nice for Marc and me to meet everyone in 
> real life and admire their bikes. We are planning our next ride for fall 
> colors on the White Pine Trail. I bet it’s as pretty as it sounds.
>
> Photos in the next post, so wacky Google Groups doesn’t get the 
> opportunity to turn all my photos sideways.
>
> Leah
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano Deore XT M750 trigger shifters 3x9

[Bill Lindsay]

SOLD

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 3:11:47 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Me:  Got tasked with liquidating my dear friend Juel-Ann's flat bar road 
> bike
>
> You: Just grabbed a Rosco Platy and are starting to plan your build
>
> Up for sale is a practically new set of 3x9 Index trigger shifters.  
> Juel-Ann's flat bar road bike was a monstrous amalgam of really nice 
> individual parts, and that's why I'm parting out her bike.  
>
> These Deore XT M750 trigger shifters are ~25 years old and they succumbed 
> to the one well-known mechanical issue that normally befalls old Shimano 
> trigger shifters: the factory grease hardens up and the internals stop 
> returning the way they are supposed to.  Fortunately I've fixed this 
> numerous times, and I fixed it on these.  The fix is to flush them with 
> light weight lube to wash the old grease away.  Consider them "factory 
> refurbished".  
>
> These will definitely index the Deore RD that Rivendell sells.  I don't 
> know for sure if the front shifter will index a Skeleton Key FD, but I 
> would not be surprised if it worked out.  
>
> Seems like $80 plus shipping is the going rate on ebay.
> Let's offer them at $50 shipped.
>
> Photos:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52219753217
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52221248510
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Jon Dukeman]

I happy it turned so good
Thanks for sharing.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2022, 4:31 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10
> riders! We rode the KalHaven Trail, a rail trail that spans the 34 miles
> between Kalamazoo and South Haven. Eight of the ten riders brought
> Rivendells, most had seen a lot of miles. The oldest bike was the ‘97 or
> ‘98 orange Custom, and the newest was my 2020 Platypus.
>
> Here is the lineup, alphabetized:
> 2 Appaloosas
> 1 Atlantis (in custom green paint)
> 1 Custom orange Rivendell
> 1 Homer
> 1 Hunq
> 1 Platypus
> 1 Quickbeam
>
> And one Nobilette and a Soma mixte.
>
> It was great weather and good company, and we continued our fellowship at
> a local brewery post-ride. It was nice for Marc and me to meet everyone in
> real life and admire their bikes. We are planning our next ride for fall
> colors on the White Pine Trail. I bet it’s as pretty as it sounds.
>
> Photos in the next post, so wacky Google Groups doesn’t get the
> opportunity to turn all my photos sideways.
>
> Leah
>
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[RBW] Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10 
riders! We rode the KalHaven Trail, a rail trail that spans the 34 miles 
between Kalamazoo and South Haven. Eight of the ten riders brought 
Rivendells, most had seen a lot of miles. The oldest bike was the ‘97 or 
‘98 orange Custom, and the newest was my 2020 Platypus.

Here is the lineup, alphabetized:
2 Appaloosas 
1 Atlantis (in custom green paint)
1 Custom orange Rivendell
1 Homer
1 Hunq
1 Platypus
1 Quickbeam

And one Nobilette and a Soma mixte.

It was great weather and good company, and we continued our fellowship at a 
local brewery post-ride. It was nice for Marc and me to meet everyone in 
real life and admire their bikes. We are planning our next ride for fall 
colors on the White Pine Trail. I bet it’s as pretty as it sounds.

Photos in the next post, so wacky Google Groups doesn’t get the opportunity 
to turn all my photos sideways.

Leah

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[RBW] FS: Shimano Deore XT M750 trigger shifters 3x9

[Bill Lindsay]

Me:  Got tasked with liquidating my dear friend Juel-Ann's flat bar road 
bike

You: Just grabbed a Rosco Platy and are starting to plan your build

Up for sale is a practically new set of 3x9 Index trigger shifters.  
Juel-Ann's flat bar road bike was a monstrous amalgam of really nice 
individual parts, and that's why I'm parting out her bike.  

These Deore XT M750 trigger shifters are ~25 years old and they succumbed 
to the one well-known mechanical issue that normally befalls old Shimano 
trigger shifters: the factory grease hardens up and the internals stop 
returning the way they are supposed to.  Fortunately I've fixed this 
numerous times, and I fixed it on these.  The fix is to flush them with 
light weight lube to wash the old grease away.  Consider them "factory 
refurbished".  

These will definitely index the Deore RD that Rivendell sells.  I don't 
know for sure if the front shifter will index a Skeleton Key FD, but I 
would not be surprised if it worked out.  

Seems like $80 plus shipping is the going rate on ebay.
Let's offer them at $50 shipped.

Photos:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52219753217
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/52221248510

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: 56+ before 55!

[Ryan]

Your custom is a beauty! Nice classic parts...especially the older Ritchey 
Logic crankset

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 11:53:56 AM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:

> For more pics of the Red Riv, here are all of my Flickr photos with the 
> tag "Rivendell" (I confirmed these are all public and don't require an 
> account to view): 
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=26797636%40N05&sort=date-taken-desc&text=rivendell&view_all=1
>
> The jersey is from Pearl Izumi, from maybe 2008-2010? They had just 
> stopped making Sesame Street jerseys, so some were available for cheap from 
> the PI factory outlet, and I got one of the last in Medium. I also have 
> matching socks, and Cookie Monster socks too!
>
> Drew
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 9:22:33 AM UTC-7 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone!
>>
>> Leah: here’s my ancient web page on my 1996/2000 Rivendell: 
>> https://web.stanford.edu/~dru/myriv.html
>> I really need to update that with new photos and a parts list.
>>
>> Joel: I hope that I don’t have to retire my Riv for many years, but some 
>> day it may have to become a wall decoration, presuming that my wife would 
>> allow it!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 7:19:40 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Keep pushing.  I have a few years on you, 2 back surgeries, a replaced 
>>> knee.  I had to take 10 years off after my second back surgery then covid 
>>> came and I started riding again.  Of course I sold my custom, my AR and 1 
>>> of my Bleriot by then.  I had 2 years of riding and had a mishap this year 
>>> and have been off the bike for 2 months, my other knee, so rest and ice. 
>>>  My mileage and speed have decreased but as I am approaching 71 I will be 
>>> just fine with my 12-17 mile rides when I get back on the bike.  
>>>
>>> Sorry you’ve had to go through your medical issues, never easy.  Ride 
>>> every day you can and take comfort as you roll down the road. A truly 
>>> beautiful bike, I hope you enjoy it for many more years.  
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 9:41:05 PM UTC-4 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>>
 For the past few years, I've tried to ride my age or more on or about 
 my birthday (this Sunday, the 17th, a.k.a. "World Emoji Day!"). Although 
 not as impressive as crossing the country, it was still a good ride today.

 In 2017, instead of riding 50+ miles for my 50th birthday, I spent my 
 birthday in the hospital due to a bad reaction to Xeloda, my first 
 chemotherapy drug. Oh, did I mention that in April of 2017 I found out 
 that 
 I had adenocarcinoma of the descending colon? I had the colectomy at the 
 end of May, and started chemo at the end of June (and re-started it at the 
 end of July with a different drug). That'll put a damper in your riding 
 plans any day! 

 I was able to do a 53 mile ride before turning 51 in 2018, and a 55 
 mile ride before turning 52 in 2019. I found my fitness dropping 
 unexpectedly in 2020, but eventually figured out that it was due to 
 working 
 from home and no longer walking or biking to work (which is only 2 miles 
 each way, but it adds up). I added a neighborhood walk to my morning 
 routine and improved my fitness, but wasn't able to get in a 53+ mile ride 
 for 2020. Then, in November 2020 (Friday the 13th, of course) I found out 
 that my cancer had returned in a single tumor in my liver. That (along 
 with 
 1/4 of my liver) was removed at the end of December.

 2021 was the year of regrowing my liver, so no long ride that July! I 
 still got in some medium rides, but didn't make 54KM, much less 54 miles 
 for any of them.

 I set out this morning to do a variation on the same 53 and 55 mile 
 ride I had done in 2018 and 2019, just with a little more at each end. For 
 the locals, this is Cañada road to the end, then meander through Woodside, 
 Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills, then Foothill Expressway/Steven's 
 Canyon Road and turn around at the Lakeshore Picnic Area then home. It 
 totaled 56.62 miles! Eventually, I'll have to switch to kilometers.

 "Pics or it didn't happen":
 [image: 2022-07-15_09-18-35_568.jpg]
 The turnaround at Cañada Road and Hwy 92 (uppermost part of Lower 
 Crystal Springs reservoir)
 [image: 2022-07-15_09-27-30_001.jpg]
 The famous Pulgas Water Temple from the fence (it looks better up close)
 [image: 2022-07-15_09-54-51_607.jpg]
 The Woodside Store, a fine place to stop for a snack and refill the 
 bottles. The glowing blue stuff is Gatorade. That's a very early (Duluth 
 patch) "banana bag" in the back and a "candy bar bag" in the front.[image: 
 2022-07-15_11-38-41_948.jpg]
 Last snack stop at Lakeshore Picnic Area selfie. Yes, Oscar is a 
 Retrogrouch! His trash can is STEEL, not plastic!

 Drew

>>>

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[RBW] Re: 56+ before 55!

[Drew Saunders]

For more pics of the Red Riv, here are all of my Flickr photos with the tag 
"Rivendell" (I confirmed these are all public and don't require an account 
to 
view): 
https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=26797636%40N05&sort=date-taken-desc&text=rivendell&view_all=1

The jersey is from Pearl Izumi, from maybe 2008-2010? They had just stopped 
making Sesame Street jerseys, so some were available for cheap from the PI 
factory outlet, and I got one of the last in Medium. I also have matching 
socks, and Cookie Monster socks too!

Drew

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 9:22:33 AM UTC-7 Drew Saunders wrote:

> Thanks everyone!
>
> Leah: here’s my ancient web page on my 1996/2000 Rivendell: 
> https://web.stanford.edu/~dru/myriv.html
> I really need to update that with new photos and a parts list.
>
> Joel: I hope that I don’t have to retire my Riv for many years, but some 
> day it may have to become a wall decoration, presuming that my wife would 
> allow it!
>
> Drew
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 7:19:40 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>>
>> Keep pushing.  I have a few years on you, 2 back surgeries, a replaced 
>> knee.  I had to take 10 years off after my second back surgery then covid 
>> came and I started riding again.  Of course I sold my custom, my AR and 1 
>> of my Bleriot by then.  I had 2 years of riding and had a mishap this year 
>> and have been off the bike for 2 months, my other knee, so rest and ice. 
>>  My mileage and speed have decreased but as I am approaching 71 I will be 
>> just fine with my 12-17 mile rides when I get back on the bike.  
>>
>> Sorry you’ve had to go through your medical issues, never easy.  Ride 
>> every day you can and take comfort as you roll down the road. A truly 
>> beautiful bike, I hope you enjoy it for many more years.  
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 9:41:05 PM UTC-4 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>
>>> For the past few years, I've tried to ride my age or more on or about my 
>>> birthday (this Sunday, the 17th, a.k.a. "World Emoji Day!"). Although not 
>>> as impressive as crossing the country, it was still a good ride today.
>>>
>>> In 2017, instead of riding 50+ miles for my 50th birthday, I spent my 
>>> birthday in the hospital due to a bad reaction to Xeloda, my first 
>>> chemotherapy drug. Oh, did I mention that in April of 2017 I found out that 
>>> I had adenocarcinoma of the descending colon? I had the colectomy at the 
>>> end of May, and started chemo at the end of June (and re-started it at the 
>>> end of July with a different drug). That'll put a damper in your riding 
>>> plans any day! 
>>>
>>> I was able to do a 53 mile ride before turning 51 in 2018, and a 55 mile 
>>> ride before turning 52 in 2019. I found my fitness dropping unexpectedly in 
>>> 2020, but eventually figured out that it was due to working from home and 
>>> no longer walking or biking to work (which is only 2 miles each way, but it 
>>> adds up). I added a neighborhood walk to my morning routine and improved my 
>>> fitness, but wasn't able to get in a 53+ mile ride for 2020. Then, in 
>>> November 2020 (Friday the 13th, of course) I found out that my cancer had 
>>> returned in a single tumor in my liver. That (along with 1/4 of my liver) 
>>> was removed at the end of December.
>>>
>>> 2021 was the year of regrowing my liver, so no long ride that July! I 
>>> still got in some medium rides, but didn't make 54KM, much less 54 miles 
>>> for any of them.
>>>
>>> I set out this morning to do a variation on the same 53 and 55 mile ride 
>>> I had done in 2018 and 2019, just with a little more at each end. For the 
>>> locals, this is Cañada road to the end, then meander through Woodside, 
>>> Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills, then Foothill Expressway/Steven's 
>>> Canyon Road and turn around at the Lakeshore Picnic Area then home. It 
>>> totaled 56.62 miles! Eventually, I'll have to switch to kilometers.
>>>
>>> "Pics or it didn't happen":
>>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-18-35_568.jpg]
>>> The turnaround at Cañada Road and Hwy 92 (uppermost part of Lower 
>>> Crystal Springs reservoir)
>>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-27-30_001.jpg]
>>> The famous Pulgas Water Temple from the fence (it looks better up close)
>>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-54-51_607.jpg]
>>> The Woodside Store, a fine place to stop for a snack and refill the 
>>> bottles. The glowing blue stuff is Gatorade. That's a very early (Duluth 
>>> patch) "banana bag" in the back and a "candy bar bag" in the front.[image: 
>>> 2022-07-15_11-38-41_948.jpg]
>>> Last snack stop at Lakeshore Picnic Area selfie. Yes, Oscar is a 
>>> Retrogrouch! His trash can is STEEL, not plastic!
>>>
>>> Drew
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 56+ before 55!

[Drew Saunders]

Thanks everyone!

Leah: here’s my ancient web page on my 1996/2000 
Rivendell: https://web.stanford.edu/~dru/myriv.html
I really need to update that with new photos and a parts list.

Joel: I hope that I don’t have to retire my Riv for many years, but some 
day it may have to become a wall decoration, presuming that my wife would 
allow it!

Drew

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 7:19:40 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:

>
> Keep pushing.  I have a few years on you, 2 back surgeries, a replaced 
> knee.  I had to take 10 years off after my second back surgery then covid 
> came and I started riding again.  Of course I sold my custom, my AR and 1 
> of my Bleriot by then.  I had 2 years of riding and had a mishap this year 
> and have been off the bike for 2 months, my other knee, so rest and ice. 
>  My mileage and speed have decreased but as I am approaching 71 I will be 
> just fine with my 12-17 mile rides when I get back on the bike.  
>
> Sorry you’ve had to go through your medical issues, never easy.  Ride 
> every day you can and take comfort as you roll down the road. A truly 
> beautiful bike, I hope you enjoy it for many more years.  
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 9:41:05 PM UTC-4 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> For the past few years, I've tried to ride my age or more on or about my 
>> birthday (this Sunday, the 17th, a.k.a. "World Emoji Day!"). Although not 
>> as impressive as crossing the country, it was still a good ride today.
>>
>> In 2017, instead of riding 50+ miles for my 50th birthday, I spent my 
>> birthday in the hospital due to a bad reaction to Xeloda, my first 
>> chemotherapy drug. Oh, did I mention that in April of 2017 I found out that 
>> I had adenocarcinoma of the descending colon? I had the colectomy at the 
>> end of May, and started chemo at the end of June (and re-started it at the 
>> end of July with a different drug). That'll put a damper in your riding 
>> plans any day! 
>>
>> I was able to do a 53 mile ride before turning 51 in 2018, and a 55 mile 
>> ride before turning 52 in 2019. I found my fitness dropping unexpectedly in 
>> 2020, but eventually figured out that it was due to working from home and 
>> no longer walking or biking to work (which is only 2 miles each way, but it 
>> adds up). I added a neighborhood walk to my morning routine and improved my 
>> fitness, but wasn't able to get in a 53+ mile ride for 2020. Then, in 
>> November 2020 (Friday the 13th, of course) I found out that my cancer had 
>> returned in a single tumor in my liver. That (along with 1/4 of my liver) 
>> was removed at the end of December.
>>
>> 2021 was the year of regrowing my liver, so no long ride that July! I 
>> still got in some medium rides, but didn't make 54KM, much less 54 miles 
>> for any of them.
>>
>> I set out this morning to do a variation on the same 53 and 55 mile ride 
>> I had done in 2018 and 2019, just with a little more at each end. For the 
>> locals, this is Cañada road to the end, then meander through Woodside, 
>> Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills, then Foothill Expressway/Steven's 
>> Canyon Road and turn around at the Lakeshore Picnic Area then home. It 
>> totaled 56.62 miles! Eventually, I'll have to switch to kilometers.
>>
>> "Pics or it didn't happen":
>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-18-35_568.jpg]
>> The turnaround at Cañada Road and Hwy 92 (uppermost part of Lower Crystal 
>> Springs reservoir)
>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-27-30_001.jpg]
>> The famous Pulgas Water Temple from the fence (it looks better up close)
>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-54-51_607.jpg]
>> The Woodside Store, a fine place to stop for a snack and refill the 
>> bottles. The glowing blue stuff is Gatorade. That's a very early (Duluth 
>> patch) "banana bag" in the back and a "candy bar bag" in the front.[image: 
>> 2022-07-15_11-38-41_948.jpg]
>> Last snack stop at Lakeshore Picnic Area selfie. Yes, Oscar is a 
>> Retrogrouch! His trash can is STEEL, not plastic!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bleriot 55 complete $1000 plus shipping

[J S]

Someone got a great deal.  Congratulations. 
On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 11:01:54 AM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:

>
> Update - the Bleriot is SOLD and will be on its way shortly to its new 
> owner. I appreciate all of the inquiries. 
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 8:21:45 AM UTC-6 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> I am pleased to report that I’ve had a number of inquiries for the bike 
>> and I am responding in order. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 7:27:32 AM UTC-6 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Very interested!! Sent a pm :)
>>>
>>> Patch in BK/NY
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 8:05:59 PM UTC-4 David Hays wrote:
>>>
 What a beautiful bike and a great deal. Just too far past the N+1 right 
 now…

 David


 On Jul 6, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:

 Thanks for the enthusiasm! Someone looking for a versatile bike and fun 
 ride should have the chance to enjoy this  Bleriot.  I’ve read several 
 posts about people regretting selling theirs, so I do have some hesitation 
 around it. But I also am expecting a Charlie H Gallop demo (54) and want 
 to 
 make some room. 

 I am new to Flickr. I think/hope the pics are now visible. 

 On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 5:18:02 PM UTC-6 Matt Beecher wrote:

> That's a crazy good deal!  I'm not personally interested, but I also 
> cannot access the photos.  
>
> GLWS!
>
> Matt
>
> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 6:09:10 PM UTC-5 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> I am interested in selling my size 55 Bleriot complete. It is a 
>> lovely bike to ride. I have the gearing set for steep dirt roads, at 
>> which 
>> it excels. It rides similar to a Soma San Marcos - very fluid - with a 
>> bit 
>> more tire clearance (42 v 38). 
>>
>> I purchased the Bleriot from a list member in 2017. Our deal was for 
>> $1200 including shipping and minus saddle, stem, and handlebars. I am 
>> hoping to sell it for essentially the same price with a stem and 
>> handlebars 
>> included, along with a new freewheel. Sale price is $1,000 complete, 
>> including professional packing, plus actual charges for bike flights 
>> shipping. Shipping to be determined once packed and the ship-to address 
>> is 
>> known. I am open to offers if someone wants the frame minus specific 
>> components or for local pick-up in Boulder/Denver area. 
>>
>> This bike has ample visible beausage - lots of scratches and dings -- 
>> without any serious damage.  The only trouble it has given me is that 
>> the 
>> rear brake hanger can get in the way of the seat bolt binder. I have to 
>> position it very carefully to make sure the seat post does not slip. 
>>
>> Lots of pictures here 
>> 
>> .
>>
>> *Details*:
>> Size 55 measured center to center (which is a good fit for my 82 pbh)
>> Saddle as pictured is 71 1/2 , measured diagonally from the center of 
>> the crank arm
>> Geometry chart 
>> 
>> Velocity Synergy 650B 32h rims
>> Standover about 81 Fatty Rumpkin tires (great tires! plenty of life 
>> left in them)
>> Shimano Dynamo front hub DH 3N71 
>> B&M Lumotec Lyt (25 lumens)
>> Phil Wood rear hub
>> Campagnolo-Brev-Int headset
>> Phil Wood bottom bracket (according to previous owner)
>> Technomic stem 7
>> Nitto handlebars -- likely B136 Rando Touring Bar size 42  
>> (very
>>  
>> comfortable)
>> Sugino XD triple 48x36x24
>> Shimano Sora FD
>> 7 speed freewheel (not a free hub / cassette) SunRun 14x34 
>> (relatively new)
>> Paul Components center-pull brakes
>> Shimano XT RD
>> Tektro brake levers
>> Shimano bar-end shifters
>>
>> Excluded items: saddle, pedals and tail-light
>> Bottle cages - optional (no charge either way)
>>
>> Happy to answer any questions. 
>>
>> Best,
>> Val in Boulder CO
>>
>> [image: PXL_20220706_203855424.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: 56+ before 55!

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Keep pushing.  I have a few years on you, 2 back surgeries, a replaced 
knee.  I had to take 10 years off after my second back surgery then covid 
came and I started riding again.  Of course I sold my custom, my AR and 1 
of my Bleriot by then.  I had 2 years of riding and had a mishap this year 
and have been off the bike for 2 months, my other knee, so rest and ice. 
 My mileage and speed have decreased but as I am approaching 71 I will be 
just fine with my 12-17 mile rides when I get back on the bike.  

Sorry you’ve had to go through your medical issues, never easy.  Ride every 
day you can and take comfort as you roll down the road. A truly beautiful 
bike, I hope you enjoy it for many more years.  
On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 9:41:05 PM UTC-4 Drew Saunders wrote:

> For the past few years, I've tried to ride my age or more on or about my 
> birthday (this Sunday, the 17th, a.k.a. "World Emoji Day!"). Although not 
> as impressive as crossing the country, it was still a good ride today.
>
> In 2017, instead of riding 50+ miles for my 50th birthday, I spent my 
> birthday in the hospital due to a bad reaction to Xeloda, my first 
> chemotherapy drug. Oh, did I mention that in April of 2017 I found out that 
> I had adenocarcinoma of the descending colon? I had the colectomy at the 
> end of May, and started chemo at the end of June (and re-started it at the 
> end of July with a different drug). That'll put a damper in your riding 
> plans any day! 
>
> I was able to do a 53 mile ride before turning 51 in 2018, and a 55 mile 
> ride before turning 52 in 2019. I found my fitness dropping unexpectedly in 
> 2020, but eventually figured out that it was due to working from home and 
> no longer walking or biking to work (which is only 2 miles each way, but it 
> adds up). I added a neighborhood walk to my morning routine and improved my 
> fitness, but wasn't able to get in a 53+ mile ride for 2020. Then, in 
> November 2020 (Friday the 13th, of course) I found out that my cancer had 
> returned in a single tumor in my liver. That (along with 1/4 of my liver) 
> was removed at the end of December.
>
> 2021 was the year of regrowing my liver, so no long ride that July! I 
> still got in some medium rides, but didn't make 54KM, much less 54 miles 
> for any of them.
>
> I set out this morning to do a variation on the same 53 and 55 mile ride I 
> had done in 2018 and 2019, just with a little more at each end. For the 
> locals, this is Cañada road to the end, then meander through Woodside, 
> Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills, then Foothill Expressway/Steven's 
> Canyon Road and turn around at the Lakeshore Picnic Area then home. It 
> totaled 56.62 miles! Eventually, I'll have to switch to kilometers.
>
> "Pics or it didn't happen":
> [image: 2022-07-15_09-18-35_568.jpg]
> The turnaround at Cañada Road and Hwy 92 (uppermost part of Lower Crystal 
> Springs reservoir)
> [image: 2022-07-15_09-27-30_001.jpg]
> The famous Pulgas Water Temple from the fence (it looks better up close)
> [image: 2022-07-15_09-54-51_607.jpg]
> The Woodside Store, a fine place to stop for a snack and refill the 
> bottles. The glowing blue stuff is Gatorade. That's a very early (Duluth 
> patch) "banana bag" in the back and a "candy bar bag" in the front.[image: 
> 2022-07-15_11-38-41_948.jpg]
> Last snack stop at Lakeshore Picnic Area selfie. Yes, Oscar is a 
> Retrogrouch! His trash can is STEEL, not plastic!
>
> Drew
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Berthoud Saddle, Compass tires.

[Frank Brose]

My mistake forgot to edit prices.
$200 for the saddle
$85 for the tires

Sorry,
Frank

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 8:58:01 AM UTC-5 Frank Brose wrote:

> Berthoud Vars Titanium New in box.Never mounted. $205 shipped
>
> Compass Lierre 650b-36 less than 10 miles on them Mounted them on a 
> conversion took one ride and sold the bike. $85 for the pair shipped
>   I will consider 
> offers. Worst that could happen is I say no, Right?
> Thanks,
> Frank
>
> [image: P1020299 (800x600).jpg][image: P1020300 (800x600).jpg][image: 
> P1020304 (800x600).jpg][image: P1020305 (800x600).jpg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Jakob Brainerd]

NYC:
2019, 52cm, Clem L
https://ksu.craigslist.org/bik/d/new-york-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7509299017.html

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 2:51:25 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> James, just a minor observation when I zoomed in. The USB charging port is 
> positioned on the top of the light, where it would likely be more 
> vulnerable to letting water in. The Koma instructions tell you to screw the 
> light into the threaded mounting post so that the port is positioned down. 
> That way, you can screw it off to recharge it, and screw it back on so that 
> it will always be in the down position.
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:46 PM James  wrote:
>
>> Why do you say that?
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:44:55 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Cool looking Clem! Except someone didn’t read the instructions on their 
>>> Koma light.
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 2:15 AM, Erik  wrote:
>>>
>>> Me too!  That is one tricked-out Clem.  I wish it were a little 
>>> smaller.  
>>>
>>>
>>> Erik 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 9:47:43 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I love the slammed look of the grilver Clem. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 56+ before 55!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

A beautiful, red Rivendell. My FAVORITE. Thank you for sharing your story; 
this nurse feels for you and admires your resolve. What is the story on 
this bike? How old is it? It’s a custom, so there are certainly interesting 
details about it that I’d be interested in knowing, if you’d care to share 
them.

Leah

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 11:58:08 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:

> Beautiful! Bike, route, shirt, and determination are all fabulous. Thanks 
> for sharing your story. I admire your determination. Hope this is the year 
> of fun rides and no hospitals. 
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:41:05 PM UTC-6 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> For the past few years, I've tried to ride my age or more on or about my 
>> birthday (this Sunday, the 17th, a.k.a. "World Emoji Day!"). Although not 
>> as impressive as crossing the country, it was still a good ride today.
>>
>> In 2017, instead of riding 50+ miles for my 50th birthday, I spent my 
>> birthday in the hospital due to a bad reaction to Xeloda, my first 
>> chemotherapy drug. Oh, did I mention that in April of 2017 I found out that 
>> I had adenocarcinoma of the descending colon? I had the colectomy at the 
>> end of May, and started chemo at the end of June (and re-started it at the 
>> end of July with a different drug). That'll put a damper in your riding 
>> plans any day! 
>>
>> I was able to do a 53 mile ride before turning 51 in 2018, and a 55 mile 
>> ride before turning 52 in 2019. I found my fitness dropping unexpectedly in 
>> 2020, but eventually figured out that it was due to working from home and 
>> no longer walking or biking to work (which is only 2 miles each way, but it 
>> adds up). I added a neighborhood walk to my morning routine and improved my 
>> fitness, but wasn't able to get in a 53+ mile ride for 2020. Then, in 
>> November 2020 (Friday the 13th, of course) I found out that my cancer had 
>> returned in a single tumor in my liver. That (along with 1/4 of my liver) 
>> was removed at the end of December.
>>
>> 2021 was the year of regrowing my liver, so no long ride that July! I 
>> still got in some medium rides, but didn't make 54KM, much less 54 miles 
>> for any of them.
>>
>> I set out this morning to do a variation on the same 53 and 55 mile ride 
>> I had done in 2018 and 2019, just with a little more at each end. For the 
>> locals, this is Cañada road to the end, then meander through Woodside, 
>> Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills, then Foothill Expressway/Steven's 
>> Canyon Road and turn around at the Lakeshore Picnic Area then home. It 
>> totaled 56.62 miles! Eventually, I'll have to switch to kilometers.
>>
>> "Pics or it didn't happen":
>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-18-35_568.jpg]
>> The turnaround at Cañada Road and Hwy 92 (uppermost part of Lower Crystal 
>> Springs reservoir)
>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-27-30_001.jpg]
>> The famous Pulgas Water Temple from the fence (it looks better up close)
>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-54-51_607.jpg]
>> The Woodside Store, a fine place to stop for a snack and refill the 
>> bottles. The glowing blue stuff is Gatorade. That's a very early (Duluth 
>> patch) "banana bag" in the back and a "candy bar bag" in the front.[image: 
>> 2022-07-15_11-38-41_948.jpg]
>> Last snack stop at Lakeshore Picnic Area selfie. Yes, Oscar is a 
>> Retrogrouch! His trash can is STEEL, not plastic!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Rosco Platy!

[Eric Daume]

I finally fought off my cheapskate side and placed my pre-order. 60cm in
purple.

I may end up building it up as a fixed gear--the only spare rear wheel I
have in my inventory is a WI ENO hubbed wheel, currently un-eccentric'd. I
would need to re-eccentric it to make it work. Or just buy a geared wheel.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 5:52 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent a
> pic of the green one with this text:
> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
>
> Joe and Skye Bernard
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Ride in SW Michigan

[Leah Peterson]

We shall share with you ALLL the pics! Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2022, at 12:45 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Everybody have fun tomorrow! Think of me and say to each other "Joe is super 
> jealous right now!" 😁
> 
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 8:56:58 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>> Looks like a super ride. I hope everyone who is planning on going does. It’s 
>> so wonderful meeting the people you’ve been “chatting with” all these years. 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 8:29:16 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Alright, looks like a good group of about 10 for our ride on Saturday. I’ve 
>>> got a table booked at the brewery for post-ride socializing. We very much 
>>> look forward to meeting you and seeing your bikes on Saturday.
>>> 
>>> See you at 10, at the trailhead!
>>> Leah and Marc
>>> 
 On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 1:26:34 PM UTC-4 Max S wrote:
 Still hoping to make it. Count me in with 85% probability, pending some 
 work deadlines and timely arrival of replacement headset to be installed 
 on the Rivendell Quickbeam that is to be ridden in said event. 
 
 - Max "expectation value" in A2
 
> On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 12:42:35 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> Hello, Friends. One week until our SW Michigan Riv Ride! I’d like to get 
> a headcount so we can reserve tables at the brewery, so please respond 
> here and let Marc and I know if you will be joining us. Please reply here 
> or PM me if you’d like to come. And tell us what Riv you’ll be planning 
> to ride! 
> 
> Once again, the details:
> 
> Date: July 16. If we get stormed/rained out, we will reschedule for July 
> 30.
> 
> Time: 10 am Eastern time
> 
> Where: KalHaven Trailhead 4143 10th St. N Kalamazoo, MI 49009
> 
> Distance: 35 mi, total. 
> 
> The KalHaven Trail is a historic rail trail that travels through a wooded 
> area all the way to Lake Michigan. We will be riding from Kalamazoo to 
> the halfway point, which is Bloomingdale. There we will refresh ourselves 
> in the town’s quaint little park; you can bring refreshments or buy them 
> at the little country store across from the park. From there we will head 
> back to Kalamazoo and rendezvous at Latitude 42, a local brewery that has 
> a patio so we can eye the bikes and enjoy a meal. 
> 
> The address for Latitude 42 is: 
> 6101 W Main St 
> Kalamazoo, MI 49009 
> 
> Hope to see you there! Message here with questions.
> Leah and Marc
> 
>> On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 6:58:18 PM UTC-5 Marc Irwin wrote:
>> I was just on the Kal-Haven Thursday and it was in great shape.   38's 
>> are no problem at all, people ride it on 28-32's all the time.
>> 
>> Marc
>> 
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 10:24:10 AM UTC-4 Tom Palmer wrote:
>>> Thanks Robert! Nothing like up to the minute intel.
>>> Tom Palmer
>>> Twin Lake, MI 
>>> 
 On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 7:12:06 AM UTC-4 Robert Blunt wrote:
 Hello all,
 I just road the Kal-Haven trail on a non-Riv bike which has 700c X 38s 
 and is was just fine. The surface is very nice all the way through to 
 South Haven.
 Best,
 Robert Blunt
 Pennington, NJ
 
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 2:07 PM Tom Palmer  wrote:
> Leah and Marc,
> Thanks for organizing this, I am looking forward to it.
> What size tires are needed for this trail? My skinnies are 38mm and 
> normal dirt road in sandy West Michigan are 48mm.
> Make it a great day,
> Tom
> 
>>> On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 10:03:36 AM UTC-4 Marc Irwin wrote:
>>> Don't forget we are in the eastern time zone.
>>> 
>>> Marc
>>> 
 On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 9:54:51 AM UTC-4 Max S wrote:
 Alright, will have to put it on the calendar!
 
 - Max "drive 3-4 hours to bike 2-3 hours - that's a pretty decent 
 espresso-like ratio" in A2 
 
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:07:59 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
> 
> 
> Rivendell Ride on the KalHaven Trail! 
> 
> Brought to you by: the Lone Wolf and the Platypus Rider, in 
> Kalamazoo, Michigan.
> 
> Date: July 16. If we get stormed/rained out, we will reschedule 
> for July 30.
> 
> Time: 10 am 
> 
> Where: KalHaven Trailhead 4143 10th St. N Kalamazoo, MI 49009
> 
> Distance: 35 mi, total. 
> 
> The KalHaven Trail is a historic rail trail that travels through 
> a wooded area all the way to Lake Michigan. We will be r

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Leah Peterson]

Joe, 
Condescending? Never. Ill get that measurement if can remember to do it before 
I load the Platy on the rack this morning. And it will, of course, be wrong but 
hopefully you’ll see a number in there that makes sense.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 15, 2022, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> ...which I just did. Cuz seriously, I'm bad about this. 
> 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 6:01:06 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> The only valid reason I see is extremely Rivendellian: I'm a notorious 
>> saddle height fiddler and the rear facing binder bolt interferes with my 
>> Medium SaddleSack when I stop to adjust it. I'd love to have that bolt on 
>> the front side. 
>> 
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 5:50:41 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>> I prefer V brakes but like cantis as well. I see no valid reason to flip 
>>> that seat clamp other than to be contrarian. 
>>> 
 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:45:27 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
 V-brakes rule! I hope I never fiddle with another cable hanger and its 
 corresponding and maddening straddle cable ever again. 
 
 Also my 👍 in my answer to Leah now strikes me as looking weirdly 
 condescending. Not my intention, Leah! 
 
 Joe "unintentional" Bernard 
 
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 4:30:49 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with 
> sloping and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters 
> level you could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but 
> just eyeballing it not really. 
> 
> 
> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the 
> reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are 
> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
> bike I ride ;-). 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>> 
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you 
>>> tell me from where to where.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
 Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
 toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>>> 
 
 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone 
>> technology things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given 
>> the Rosco Platy any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and 
>> thought I'd at least see what they look like. That's a great move to 
>> offer it in purple as it is a fine alternative to the common 
>> production colors. 
>> 
>> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 
>> 
>> HTA 69.5d
>> STA 72d
>> Effective TT 652mm
>> Stack 666mm  
>> Reach 430mm
>> Chainstay 540mm
>> Rake 67mm
>> Front Center 726mm
>> Drop 80mm 
>> 
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