[RBW] Re: Cheviot for trade/sale

[alan lavine]

OOPs...I don't do this very often.
 I'm on the west side of Manhattan, NYC.

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:18:11 PM UTC-4 Dave S wrote:

> Where is local?
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:02:37 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> No trade offers yet.  Anyone interested in a sale? I'll work up a spec 
>> sheet and price.
>> Local pick up a big bonus!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Someone requested pics about my previous post. If you need more specific 
>>> info contact me please. 
>>> Thanks 
>>> Alan 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot for trade/sale

[Dave S]

Where is local?

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:02:37 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> No trade offers yet.  Anyone interested in a sale? I'll work up a spec 
> sheet and price.
> Local pick up a big bonus!
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Someone requested pics about my previous post. If you need more specific 
>> info contact me please.
>> Thanks 
>> Alan
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Joe Bernard]

That Susie is all o' that and a bag of chips. I wish they had more pics 
though. 

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:28:06 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Wolbis/Susie
> 56cm
> 3500
> San Francisco, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-wolbis-susie/7510969413.html
>
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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Matthew Williams]

Wolbis/Susie
56cm
3500
San Francisco, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-wolbis-susie/7510969413.html
 


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[RBW] Re: 56+ before 55!

[Drew Saunders]

Ray: I’m jealous, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bald eagle!

Ryan: Sadly, the left Ritchey Logic crank snapped in 2012

Aaron: I’m sorry to hear about your father. Cancer is a real Oedipus! 
(Think Samuel L Jackson’s favorite word…)

Rich: I saw Jobst around Palo Alto from time to time, it’s hard not to 
notice a 6’7” guy on a bright yellow bike,  but never met him. I was once 
passed by Tom Ritchey while biking home. He’s fast!

Thanks again to everyone who replied! Maybe I’ll bike to the coast and back 
(about 57 miles and very hilly) next year!

Drew
On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 8:28:43 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:

> Hello Drew,
>
> Thank you for telling your story. It's inspiring to read about your 
> positive attitude and resolve in overcoming your medical issues. Best 
> wishes for good health and many years of good rides on your beautiful red 
> Rivendell.
>
> Something else in your post jumped out at me and that is the locale for 
> your rides is the same area where Jobst Brandt and his pals regularly rode. 
> Really nice that you have access to those routes. I just read Ray Hosler's 
> book "Once Upon a Ride", an account of the "Jobst rides" rides from 1980 - 
> 2007. It's a fun read with lots of photographs and names you'll recognize 
> (Tom Ritchey and Peter Johnson are two). Hosler still lives in the Bay area 
> and continues to ride those roads. Check out his blog at 
> rayhosler.wordpress.com
>
> Stay well and keep the wheels turning!
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 9:41:05 PM UTC-4 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> For the past few years, I've tried to ride my age or more on or about my 
>> birthday (this Sunday, the 17th, a.k.a. "World Emoji Day!"). Although not 
>> as impressive as crossing the country, it was still a good ride today.
>>
>> In 2017, instead of riding 50+ miles for my 50th birthday, I spent my 
>> birthday in the hospital due to a bad reaction to Xeloda, my first 
>> chemotherapy drug. Oh, did I mention that in April of 2017 I found out that 
>> I had adenocarcinoma of the descending colon? I had the colectomy at the 
>> end of May, and started chemo at the end of June (and re-started it at the 
>> end of July with a different drug). That'll put a damper in your riding 
>> plans any day! 
>>
>> I was able to do a 53 mile ride before turning 51 in 2018, and a 55 mile 
>> ride before turning 52 in 2019. I found my fitness dropping unexpectedly in 
>> 2020, but eventually figured out that it was due to working from home and 
>> no longer walking or biking to work (which is only 2 miles each way, but it 
>> adds up). I added a neighborhood walk to my morning routine and improved my 
>> fitness, but wasn't able to get in a 53+ mile ride for 2020. Then, in 
>> November 2020 (Friday the 13th, of course) I found out that my cancer had 
>> returned in a single tumor in my liver. That (along with 1/4 of my liver) 
>> was removed at the end of December.
>>
>> 2021 was the year of regrowing my liver, so no long ride that July! I 
>> still got in some medium rides, but didn't make 54KM, much less 54 miles 
>> for any of them.
>>
>> I set out this morning to do a variation on the same 53 and 55 mile ride 
>> I had done in 2018 and 2019, just with a little more at each end. For the 
>> locals, this is Cañada road to the end, then meander through Woodside, 
>> Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills, then Foothill Expressway/Steven's 
>> Canyon Road and turn around at the Lakeshore Picnic Area then home. It 
>> totaled 56.62 miles! Eventually, I'll have to switch to kilometers.
>>
>> "Pics or it didn't happen":
>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-18-35_568.jpg]
>> The turnaround at Cañada Road and Hwy 92 (uppermost part of Lower Crystal 
>> Springs reservoir)
>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-27-30_001.jpg]
>> The famous Pulgas Water Temple from the fence (it looks better up close)
>> [image: 2022-07-15_09-54-51_607.jpg]
>> The Woodside Store, a fine place to stop for a snack and refill the 
>> bottles. The glowing blue stuff is Gatorade. That's a very early (Duluth 
>> patch) "banana bag" in the back and a "candy bar bag" in the front.[image: 
>> 2022-07-15_11-38-41_948.jpg]
>> Last snack stop at Lakeshore Picnic Area selfie. Yes, Oscar is a 
>> Retrogrouch! His trash can is STEEL, not plastic!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: NAHBS Vaporware?

[Kurt Griffin]

> John Moore : Jul 20 11:45AM -0400
> 
> On another site, it has been reported that the organizer of NAHBS had
> fallen quite ill and unable to pull together the event this year. In a note
> he sent to exhibitors, he also stated that there was not enough exhibitor
> interest to make a go of it.
>  
> Keep fingers crossed for next yr

Thank you all very much for the information.  Best wishes to Organizer John, 
and we’ll hope for next year.  

—Kurt

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Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne upgrade

[Jason Zakaras]

Thanks everyone!  I have identical twin boys so there is actually two 
helpers wrenching a way, just never captured the "teamwork".  I love that 
they enjoy riding as much as they enjoy wrenching, its so fun sharing the 
love with them! (Ford & Duke)

The color is unknown to me, I asked Rick Stephanit (D&D) to do a classic 
Burgundy color with cream accents, he ran with it and I think, nailed it.

Thanks for all the kind words, I've really enjoyed gleaning an education on 
all things Riv here on the forum.

Cheers!

Z

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:43:59 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> Yeah...love the new color;  what is it? Eggplant comes to mind. That is a 
> very classy upgrade indeed And your son looks like a pro wrenching away on 
> the bottom bracket. Nice👍
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 10:26:50 AM UTC-5 amill...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Love it, Z. How’d you pick the colors? What colors are they?
>>
>> Looks better than new. 👌🏻
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Aaron in El Paso
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2022, at 09:21, iamkeith  wrote:
>>
>> Very nice.  I'm slowly restoring my well-used quick beam, trying to 
>> decide on the right shade of brown/red paint too.  Looks great.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 9:40:38 PM UTC-6 jasonz...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey All!  I haven't posted much for content here so I thought I'd share 
>>> some before and after shots of my SimpleOne.  I am the third owner and it 
>>> had a hard life to say the least.  I love. that it was well used as all 
>>> Rivendell bikes deserve, but I desired to give it a classy upgrade and 
>>> start my own love marks on the gravel roads here in Nebraska and tours 
>>> around the midwest.  I'm really pleased with how she turned out and I am 
>>> already enjoying the new scuffs and bumps in the new adventures.
>>>
>>> Before:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52212931663/in/album-72177720300508394/
>>>
>>> After:
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52213400520/in/album-72177720300508394/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jason, also a pretty simple one
>>>
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[RBW] Re: New 650b Rims from Crust

[Lance Terry]

I run the 130's on my Atlantis and Sam. I just tighten them down. I don't 
think you have to worry about it with steel, at least I don't. 
Lance

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 8:25:47 AM UTC-6 Erik Wright wrote:

> I'm looking at getting a set of these wheels in 700c for my Sam Hillborne, 
> but they're 130mm spacing without the ability to add spacers and re-dish 
> the wheel. The Hillborne's spacing is 135mm.
>
> I've put 130mm wheels in the Hillborne before and just tightened down the 
> QR, but only for a short period of time. Any downsides to this as a long 
> term solution with this wheelset? I use friction shifting, so I don't have 
> to worry much about slight derailleur alignment issues.
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:06:05 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Buy the rims and have a good wheelbuilder build them up for you!  I've 
>> got a Crust bike, and I'm thinking I'll buy some 700c rims and rebuild my 
>> wheelset.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:48:13 AM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, I just saw Russ from Path Less Pedaled gave the wheels a quick 
>>> positive review when he tried them on the Crust Lightning Bolt.
>>>
>>> He basically says they're affordable, light-ish, and it's nice to have 
>>> another rim-brake, tubeless compatible option out there.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/Q2vU_p1bNZg?t=90
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 12:23:49 PM UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>>
 Thanks all for sharing your experiences. I'm still leaning towards 
 getting a set to use tubeless, but now I'll know to expect to have to true 
 them up early.

 On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:02:56 PM UTC-7 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve been using the 700c version of these for a few months on several 
> different bikes. The rear did go out of true not too long after I got 
> them. 
> I was as kind of surprised, but trued them up and no problems since. I 
> liked the price point too with the front hub. I was able to set them up 
> tubeless with no problems either. 
> Lance
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 4:05:43 PM UTC-6 leva...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> You are correct, Drew.  The rh is no louder than a White rh, but much 
>> louder than a 105 or Deore rh.  It is what it is.  What I failed to 
>> mention 
>> was how nice the dynamo front hub is at this price point I like the 
>> wheelset a bunch.
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 3:04:36 PM UTC-6 Drew Henson wrote:
>>
>>> I have a pair on a fairly new crust romanceur, and i like them quite 
>>> a bit. rear hub is no louder than a white industry hub i have on 
>>> another 
>>> bike. I really like the SP generator hub, i think it's a good value. 
>>>
>>> I am curious if the spoke tensioning holds up. I probably have about 
>>> 100 miles on them. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:07:36 AM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I own a set of the Crust wheels on my Canti Lightning bolt, and 
 they’re just fine, although the rear hub is loud.  Mine are the 650b 
 size, 

 On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:11:41 AM UTC-6 Nikko in Oakland 
 wrote:

> I have a pair of the 700c complete wheelsets and I probably put 
> them through more rough stuff than they were intended to be on. 
>
> I've ridden them for about 500-600 miles, about 40% gravel 
> (nothing super rough) and 60% road in the Oakland/Berkeley Hills. I 
> ride my 
> bikes kind of hard, with a lot of out of the saddle, high torque 
> efforts. 
> I'm never riding any trails that I'd be more comfortable on a front 
> suspension bike on. The wheels were machine built, so they went out 
> of true 
> rather quickly which was expected. At ~200 miles, I gave them a 
> little 
> touch true to keep them laterally true. But shortly after (~70 miles 
> later), they went out of true again, and I attributed this to my lack 
> of 
> experience truing wheels, it being machine-built wheel, how light the 
> rim 
> is, and/or how hard i'm pushing them. 
>
> An acquaintance mentioned that he had to true his wheelset about 5 
> times before they stayed true. I'm not super well equipped to true 
> wheels 
> appropriately, so this would have gotten expensive for me to get a 
> shop to 
> do this regularly, so I just got them detensioned/retensioned by a 
> trusted 
> wheel builder. The wheel builder mentioned that the rear hub is a bit 
> crunchy already and he suggested I replace the bearings and clean out 
> the 
> internals to get 'em smooth again. I wasn't thrilled to hear that, 
> but it's 
> all good. 
>
> Any

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Bill Lindsay]

Thanks!  I think the real deep philosophical question is: can I call it a 
tourer before it's been taken touring?  How long of a tour counts as 
touring?  From a pure 'naming' or 'categorization' perspective, there is 
such a thing as a touring bike.  That generally accepted "touring bike" is 
a touring bike even before it goes on a tour, even if it never goes on a 
tour.  So, for a bike that is not universally categorized as a touring 
bike; does it become a touring bike because it is taken touring?  

BL in EC
 
On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 10:39:28 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Well...she not he actually...I see what you mean, and when you talk about 
> bikes , you are usually crystal-clear. Thanks for answering. I always enjoy 
> looking at your bikes and reading your posts about bikes and riding in 
> general
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:
>>
>> How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
>> currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
>> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 
>>
>> Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
>> bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
>> talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
>> top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
>> soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
>> "dozenspeed".  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; 
>>> love the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But 
>>> I have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options 
>>> for 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are 
>>> no derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live 
>>> is hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>>>
>>> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
>>> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>>>
>>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>>>  
>>>
>>> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
>>> student making me ask this.
>>>
>>> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>>>
 Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed 
 touring, AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's 
 setup of "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
 significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free 
 -- 
 I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
 Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
 Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
 see...


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/

 Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
 weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
 simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)

 Cheers,
 Will
   

 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a 
>> little liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is 
>> always 
>> gonna look great!
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One 
>>> Ring One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the 
>>> fixie fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to 
>>> have my 
>>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>>
>>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
>>> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s 
>>> rigid 
>>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight 
>>> leg 
>>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing 

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[JohnS]

Not a touring bike, nor a one day build, but a super cool fixed gear over 
on the Radavist. Riv content, the cut down Choco bars really contribute to 
the vintage look...

https://theradavist.com/readers-rides-todds-morlock-the-time-machine/

Enjoy!
John

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 1:39:28 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Well...she not he actually...I see what you mean, and when you talk about 
> bikes , you are usually crystal-clear. Thanks for answering. I always enjoy 
> looking at your bikes and reading your posts about bikes and riding in 
> general
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:
>>
>> How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
>> currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
>> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 
>>
>> Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
>> bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
>> talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
>> top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
>> soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
>> "dozenspeed".  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; 
>>> love the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But 
>>> I have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options 
>>> for 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are 
>>> no derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live 
>>> is hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>>>
>>> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
>>> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>>>
>>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>>>  
>>>
>>> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
>>> student making me ask this.
>>>
>>> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>>>
 Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed 
 touring, AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's 
 setup of "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
 significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free 
 -- 
 I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
 Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
 Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
 see...


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/

 Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
 weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
 simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)

 Cheers,
 Will
   

 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>
>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a 
>> little liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is 
>> always 
>> gonna look great!
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One 
>>> Ring One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the 
>>> fixie fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to 
>>> have my 
>>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>>
>>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
>>> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s 
>>> rigid 
>>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight 
>>> leg 
>>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 
>>> 170 
>>> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
>>> floated 
>>> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years 
>>> before 
>>> good sealants. All this was achieved la

Re: [RBW] Re: NAHBS Vaporware?

[Joe Bunik]

On 7/20/22, iamkeith  wrote:
> Looks like John posted a "real" answer at the same time as I was posting a
> snarky one.  That's too bad, sorry to hear.  Hope the Organizer recovers
> and gets well.
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:53:01 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Maybe the exhibitors pre-shipped all of their bikes and they got stolen,
>> so they have to cancel.
>>
>> Bad joke.   But not really.   I hope you find out what's going on, because
>>
>> I might even be able to attend one of these for a change.
>>
>> In all seriousness though:  If you're not familiar with the situation in
>> Denver the last few years, be warned and be careful!   Consider not even
>> bringing bikes.  If you do, don't  leave them unattended for even 30
>> seconds, anywhere in town, or even locked to a vehicular bike rack.  Even
>>
>> in busy, visible spaces with lots of activity.  ESPECIALLY at the REI
>> store.  If you're out riding on the otherwise-great trail system, stay in
>>
>> groups and bring you bike inside any store WITH you.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:11:52 AM UTC-6 K Griffin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, all—
>>>
>>>A bunch of us have been ready to head to Denver in late Sept for the
>>> NAHBS event.  The NAHBS.com website is not responding.  Their last
>>> facebook post announced the event… back in January.  I saw references
>>> online to it being at the Colo. convention center, but it’s not on their
>>>
>>> schedule.  Same for the Coliseum on the north side of town.  Does anyone
>>>
>>> have any more information about this event?
>>>
>>>Stay cool, and keep the rubber side down!
>>>
>>> —Kurt in Sioux Falls
>>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne upgrade

[Ryan]

Yeah...love the new color;  what is it? Eggplant comes to mind. That is a 
very classy upgrade indeed And your son looks like a pro wrenching away on 
the bottom bracket. Nice👍

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 10:26:50 AM UTC-5 amill...@gmail.com wrote:

> Love it, Z. How’d you pick the colors? What colors are they?
>
> Looks better than new. 👌🏻
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron in El Paso
>
> On Jul 20, 2022, at 09:21, iamkeith  wrote:
>
> Very nice.  I'm slowly restoring my well-used quick beam, trying to 
> decide on the right shade of brown/red paint too.  Looks great.
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 9:40:38 PM UTC-6 jasonz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey All!  I haven't posted much for content here so I thought I'd share 
>> some before and after shots of my SimpleOne.  I am the third owner and it 
>> had a hard life to say the least.  I love. that it was well used as all 
>> Rivendell bikes deserve, but I desired to give it a classy upgrade and 
>> start my own love marks on the gravel roads here in Nebraska and tours 
>> around the midwest.  I'm really pleased with how she turned out and I am 
>> already enjoying the new scuffs and bumps in the new adventures.
>>
>> Before:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52212931663/in/album-72177720300508394/
>>
>> After:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52213400520/in/album-72177720300508394/
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jason, also a pretty simple one
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Ryan]

Well...she not he actually...I see what you mean, and when you talk about 
bikes , you are usually crystal-clear. Thanks for answering. I always enjoy 
looking at your bikes and reading your posts about bikes and riding in 
general

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:30:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:
>
> How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
> currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 
>
> Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
> bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
> talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
> top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
> soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
> "dozenspeed".  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love 
>> the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I 
>> have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 
>> 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no 
>> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is 
>> hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>>
>> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
>> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>>
>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>>  
>>
>> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
>> student making me ask this.
>>
>> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>>
>>> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed 
>>> touring, AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's 
>>> setup of "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
>>> significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
>>> I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
>>> Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
>>> Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
>>> see...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>>>
>>> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
>>> weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
>>> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Will
>>>   
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
 front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
 mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
 kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a 
> little liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is 
> always 
> gonna look great!
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
>> One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
>> fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
>> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>>
>> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
>> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s 
>> rigid 
>> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
>> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
>> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
>> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 
>> 170 
>> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
>> floated 
>> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years 
>> before 
>> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO 
>> hub, 
>> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
>> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>>
>> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss 
>> project using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A while

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[amillhench]

“Dodecaspeed” has a nice ring to it. 

Aaron in El Paso 

On Jul 20, 2022, at 11:30, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:

How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds currently 
and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no derailleurs so you 
can't shift on the fly? 

Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any bike 
that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm talking 
about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the top level 
'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will soon be a 
singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a "dozenspeed".  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love the 
> tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I have a 
> question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
> currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no derailleurs 
> so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is hilly so a 
> true single-speed is probably not really practical
> 
> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, and 
> it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl 
> 
> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
> student making me ask this.
> 
> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
> 
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
>> AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of "One 
>> Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing significantly 
>> more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- I did a VO 
>> Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New Singlespeed MTB Rear 
>> Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big Back Rack, naturally.  
>> Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can see...
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>> 
>> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me weeks 
>> to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
>> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Will
>>  
>> 
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
>>> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
>>> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
>>> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
 hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
 liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
 look great!
 
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring One 
> Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie fad 
> era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
> 
> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
> the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
> floated over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 
> years before good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of 
> the ENO hub, as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I 
> had the other bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to 
> recall a total.
> 
> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
> using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
> 
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
>> of the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>> 
>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listi

[RBW] Re: Does anybody out there have Paul Minimoto FRONT brakes on their Atlantis?

[Bill Lindsay]

Not an Atlantis, but here is a photo of my Rivendell Legolas front Minimoto 
brake, wrapped around a 700x38 knobby:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/39647876520/in/album-72157665762529407/

Some Atlantis' have 622mm wheels.  Some Atlantis' have 584mm wheels.  Some 
Atlantis' have 559mm wheels.  Generally, I think the majority of Atlantis 
owners running smaller wheels run fatter tires than the Minimoto can 
clear.  I think the general consensus is 43mm or narrower.  Less if you are 
running fenders also.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:24:17 AM UTC-7 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking for pics of other Atlantis owners' Minimoto set-ups.  I currently 
> have Neo-Retros , but they are getting in the way of my panniers when 
> mounted to my Pass and Stow rack.   Considering the Minimotos and the Paul 
> Touring setup.  
> Thanks all!
> Alex
>

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Bill Lindsay]

Ryan in Winnipeg said he had a question, and then asked two:

How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 6 speeds 
currently and up to 8?  Is it a single-speed because there are no 
derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? 

Yeah, I find it convenient to use the term "singlespeed" to describe any 
bike that has no derailers and no shifters.  People generally know what I'm 
talking about.  My builds usually have a lot of other details beyond the 
top level 'category'.  There's a decent chance that this Quickbeam will 
soon be a singlespeed with 12 choosable gears.  I'll probably label it a 
"dozenspeed".  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 5:44:35 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love 
> the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I 
> have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 
> 6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no 
> derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is 
> hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical
>
> The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, 
> and it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
>
> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl
>  
>
> SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
> student making me ask this.
>
> Ryan/Winnipeg MB
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:
>
>> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
>> AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of 
>> "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
>> significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
>> I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
>> Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
>> Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
>> see...
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>>
>> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
>> weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
>> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Will
>>   
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
>>> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
>>> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
>>> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>>
 hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
 liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
 look great!

 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
> One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
> fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
> single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.
>
> As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride 
> for the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
> top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
> fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
> converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
> Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
> mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
> floated 
> over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years 
> before 
> good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
> as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
> bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.
>
> I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss 
> project using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  
> wrote:
>
>> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
>> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
>> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
>> of 
>> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>>
>> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
>> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one o

[RBW] Re: Does anybody out there have Paul Minimoto FRONT brakes on their Atlantis?

[Wally Estrella]

I had Neo-Retros on my Quickbeam, but switched to Minimotos two years ago.  
Well worth it in the extra stopping power.

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:24:17 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking for pics of other Atlantis owners' Minimoto set-ups.  I currently 
> have Neo-Retros , but they are getting in the way of my panniers when 
> mounted to my Pass and Stow rack.   Considering the Minimotos and the Paul 
> Touring setup.  
> Thanks all!
> Alex
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Fabio's Chest Large, Waxed Blue Canvas

[Alex K]

Bag is sold!

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:36:28 PM UTC-7 Alex K wrote:

> I guess I want a black one.  Go figure.  Used twice.  $200 Bay Area sale, 
> or $225 shipped CONUS.
> a c k s f 7 8 gmail
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[RBW] Does anybody out there have Paul Minimoto FRONT brakes on their Atlantis?

[Alex K]

Looking for pics of other Atlantis owners' Minimoto set-ups.  I currently 
have Neo-Retros , but they are getting in the way of my panniers when 
mounted to my Pass and Stow rack.   Considering the Minimotos and the Paul 
Touring setup.  
Thanks all!
Alex

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[RBW] Re: NAHBS Vaporware?

[iamkeith]

Looks like John posted a "real" answer at the same time as I was posting a 
snarky one.  That's too bad, sorry to hear.  Hope the Organizer recovers 
and gets well.

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:53:01 AM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:

> Maybe the exhibitors pre-shipped all of their bikes and they got stolen, 
> so they have to cancel.
>
> Bad joke.   But not really.   I hope you find out what's going on, because 
> I might even be able to attend one of these for a change.  
>
> In all seriousness though:  If you're not familiar with the situation in 
> Denver the last few years, be warned and be careful!   Consider not even 
> bringing bikes.  If you do, don't  leave them unattended for even 30 
> seconds, anywhere in town, or even locked to a vehicular bike rack.  Even 
> in busy, visible spaces with lots of activity.  ESPECIALLY at the REI 
> store.  If you're out riding on the otherwise-great trail system, stay in 
> groups and bring you bike inside any store WITH you. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:11:52 AM UTC-6 K Griffin wrote:
>
>> Hi, all—  
>>
>>A bunch of us have been ready to head to Denver in late Sept for the 
>> NAHBS event.  The NAHBS.com website is not responding.  Their last 
>> facebook post announced the event… back in January.  I saw references 
>> online to it being at the Colo. convention center, but it’s not on their 
>> schedule.  Same for the Coliseum on the north side of town.  Does anyone 
>> have any more information about this event?
>>
>>Stay cool, and keep the rubber side down!
>>
>> —Kurt in Sioux Falls
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: NAHBS Vaporware?

[iamkeith]

Maybe the exhibitors pre-shipped all of their bikes and they got stolen, so 
they have to cancel.

Bad joke.   But not really.   I hope you find out what's going on, because 
I might even be able to attend one of these for a change.  

In all seriousness though:  If you're not familiar with the situation in 
Denver the last few years, be warned and be careful!   Consider not even 
bringing bikes.  If you do, don't  leave them unattended for even 30 
seconds, anywhere in town, or even locked to a vehicular bike rack.  Even 
in busy, visible spaces with lots of activity.  ESPECIALLY at the REI 
store.  If you're out riding on the otherwise-great trail system, stay in 
groups and bring you bike inside any store WITH you. 

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 12:11:52 AM UTC-6 K Griffin wrote:

> Hi, all—  
>
>A bunch of us have been ready to head to Denver in late Sept for the 
> NAHBS event.  The NAHBS.com website is not responding.  Their last 
> facebook post announced the event… back in January.  I saw references 
> online to it being at the Colo. convention center, but it’s not on their 
> schedule.  Same for the Coliseum on the north side of town.  Does anyone 
> have any more information about this event?
>
>Stay cool, and keep the rubber side down!
>
> —Kurt in Sioux Falls
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Re: [RBW] Re: NAHBS Vaporware?

[John Moore]

On another site, it has been reported that the organizer of NAHBS had
fallen quite ill and unable to pull together the event this year. In a note
he sent to exhibitors, he also stated that there was not enough exhibitor
interest to make a go of it.

Keep fingers crossed for next yr

On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 2:40 AM Wesley  wrote:

> I found the website for the National Western Complex, and the show doesn't
> appear in their online schedule. I'm not sure what's going on. One of the
> Facebook posts does list a phone number for Don, if you feel like calling
> him to ask.
> -W
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:35:11 PM UTC-7 Wesley wrote:
>
>> The January update is pinned so it will stay at the top of their page. If
>> you scroll past it, there are plenty more updates (the most recent one is
>> July 6). Just browsing the Facebook page, I see that there's a video where
>> the organizer (it looks like Don organizes the show all by himself) was in
>> the hospital for a coronary embolism in May. So that probably explains the
>> slack organization this year. Anyway, the video from June 13 says the show
>> is at the National Western Complex. Hope this helps, and have fun!
>> -W
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:11:52 PM UTC-7 K Griffin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, all—
>>>
>>>A bunch of us have been ready to head to Denver in late Sept for the
>>> NAHBS event.  The NAHBS.com website is not responding.  Their last
>>> facebook post announced the event… back in January.  I saw references
>>> online to it being at the Colo. convention center, but it’s not on their
>>> schedule.  Same for the Coliseum on the north side of town.  Does anyone
>>> have any more information about this event?
>>>
>>>Stay cool, and keep the rubber side down!
>>>
>>> —Kurt in Sioux Falls
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne upgrade

[amillhench]

Love it, Z. How’d you pick the colors? What colors are they?

Looks better than new. 👌🏻

Best,

Aaron in El Paso

On Jul 20, 2022, at 09:21, iamkeith  wrote:

Very nice.  I'm slowly restoring my well-used quick beam, trying to decide on 
the right shade of brown/red paint too.  Looks great.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 9:40:38 PM UTC-6 jasonz...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey All!  I haven't posted much for content here so I thought I'd share some 
> before and after shots of my SimpleOne.  I am the third owner and it had a 
> hard life to say the least.  I love. that it was well used as all Rivendell 
> bikes deserve, but I desired to give it a classy upgrade and start my own 
> love marks on the gravel roads here in Nebraska and tours around the midwest. 
>  I'm really pleased with how she turned out and I am already enjoying the new 
> scuffs and bumps in the new adventures.
> 
> Before:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52212931663/in/album-72177720300508394/
> 
> After:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52213400520/in/album-72177720300508394/
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jason, also a pretty simple one

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[RBW] Re: SimpleOne upgrade

[iamkeith]

Very nice.  I'm slowly restoring my well-used quick beam, trying to decide 
on the right shade of brown/red paint too.  Looks great.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 9:40:38 PM UTC-6 jasonz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey All!  I haven't posted much for content here so I thought I'd share 
> some before and after shots of my SimpleOne.  I am the third owner and it 
> had a hard life to say the least.  I love. that it was well used as all 
> Rivendell bikes deserve, but I desired to give it a classy upgrade and 
> start my own love marks on the gravel roads here in Nebraska and tours 
> around the midwest.  I'm really pleased with how she turned out and I am 
> already enjoying the new scuffs and bumps in the new adventures.
>
> Before:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52212931663/in/album-72177720300508394/
>
> After:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52213400520/in/album-72177720300508394/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jason, also a pretty simple one
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant “Enzo” Petersen

[Brian Turner]

That Riv blue is the prettiest blue I've ever seen on a bike. I'm happy to
own one in that color! It looks pretty good on the Dino, too.

On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 10:36 AM Gill  wrote:

>
> That’s what you get for missing half your cylinders.
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 10:03:20 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> Remember, a Dino 246 is just a Dino. It was not a Ferrari back then.
>> Dinos did not get Ferrari badging until 1976 and 246s were only produced
>> until 1974.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:23:09 AM UTC-4 Gill wrote:
>>
>>> I may have stumbled upon the original inspiration for Rivendell blue in
>>> the sexy form of a 1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GT. The car owner offered to buy
>>> my bike he was so taken with the match (but bike rack posed a challenge).
>>> For Riv owners needing touch up paint look no further than Blu Chiaro
>>> Metallizzatto. Ciao
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Grant “Enzo” Petersen

[Gill]

That’s what you get for missing half your cylinders. 
On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 10:03:20 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Remember, a Dino 246 is just a Dino. It was not a Ferrari back then. Dinos 
> did not get Ferrari badging until 1976 and 246s were only produced until 
> 1974.
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:23:09 AM UTC-4 Gill wrote:
>
>> I may have stumbled upon the original inspiration for Rivendell blue in 
>> the sexy form of a 1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GT. The car owner offered to buy 
>> my bike he was so taken with the match (but bike rack posed a challenge). 
>> For Riv owners needing touch up paint look no further than Blu Chiaro 
>> Metallizzatto. Ciao
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: SimpleOne upgrade

[Will M]

Well done.  I particularly enjoy the images of the young boy wrenching the 
bike.  I have a son about the same age who helped me wrench the SimpleOne's 
older brother, the Quickbeam.  --Will 

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:53:23 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:

> BOY HOWDY
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:40:38 PM UTC-4 jasonz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey All!  I haven't posted much for content here so I thought I'd share 
>> some before and after shots of my SimpleOne.  I am the third owner and it 
>> had a hard life to say the least.  I love. that it was well used as all 
>> Rivendell bikes deserve, but I desired to give it a classy upgrade and 
>> start my own love marks on the gravel roads here in Nebraska and tours 
>> around the midwest.  I'm really pleased with how she turned out and I am 
>> already enjoying the new scuffs and bumps in the new adventures.
>>
>> Before:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52212931663/in/album-72177720300508394/
>>
>> After:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52213400520/in/album-72177720300508394/
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jason, also a pretty simple one
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Grant “Enzo” Petersen

[Ted Durant]

And it has wheels by Campagnolo.

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[RBW] Re: Grant “Enzo” Petersen

[lconley]

Remember, a Dino 246 is just a Dino. It was not a Ferrari back then. Dinos 
did not get Ferrari badging until 1976 and 246s were only produced until 
1974.

Laing

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 9:23:09 AM UTC-4 Gill wrote:

> I may have stumbled upon the original inspiration for Rivendell blue in 
> the sexy form of a 1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GT. The car owner offered to buy 
> my bike he was so taken with the match (but bike rack posed a challenge). 
> For Riv owners needing touch up paint look no further than Blu Chiaro 
> Metallizzatto. Ciao
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Grant “Enzo” Petersen

[Richard Rose]

And now for the first time I am questioning my choice of lime green on my Clem. 
It’s a gorgeous blue. 

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> On Jul 20, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Gill  wrote:
> 
> I may have stumbled upon the original inspiration for Rivendell blue in the 
> sexy form of a 1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GT. The car owner offered to buy my bike 
> he was so taken with the match (but bike rack posed a challenge). For Riv 
> owners needing touch up paint look no further than Blu Chiaro Metallizzatto. 
> Ciao
> 
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Re: [RBW] Grant “Enzo” Petersen

[Richard Rose]

I love my Riv but I’d have offered a straight up trade. My favorite Ferrari.

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> On Jul 20, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Gill  wrote:
> 
> I may have stumbled upon the original inspiration for Rivendell blue in the 
> sexy form of a 1972 Ferrari Dino 246 GT. The car owner offered to buy my bike 
> he was so taken with the match (but bike rack posed a challenge). For Riv 
> owners needing touch up paint look no further than Blu Chiaro Metallizzatto. 
> Ciao
> 
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[RBW] Re: SimpleOne upgrade

[Patch T]

BOY HOWDY
On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 11:40:38 PM UTC-4 jasonz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey All!  I haven't posted much for content here so I thought I'd share 
> some before and after shots of my SimpleOne.  I am the third owner and it 
> had a hard life to say the least.  I love. that it was well used as all 
> Rivendell bikes deserve, but I desired to give it a classy upgrade and 
> start my own love marks on the gravel roads here in Nebraska and tours 
> around the midwest.  I'm really pleased with how she turned out and I am 
> already enjoying the new scuffs and bumps in the new adventures.
>
> Before:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52212931663/in/album-72177720300508394/
>
> After:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/196122347@N08/52213400520/in/album-72177720300508394/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jason, also a pretty simple one
>

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day (last week) A New to me Quickbeam

[Ryan]

Well that Vanilla is certainly pretty (and pricey). Neat build Bill; love 
the tape job and gold Pearl stem. You have quite the parts stash. But I 
have a question. How is your bike a single-speed when you have options for 
6 speeds currently and up to 8? Is it a single-speed because there are no 
derailleurs so you can't shift on the fly? I get it that where you live is 
hilly so a true single-speed is probably not really practical

The Vanilla inspiring this challenge is a true single-speed in my mind, and 
it is sort of set up for touring with the rack and snug fenders
https://www.theproscloset.com/products/2019-vanilla-workshop-single-speed-xl 

SemanticsI know, I know. It's my retirement hustle as a linguistics 
student making me ask this.

Ryan/Winnipeg MB

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 3:15:08 PM UTC-5 Will M wrote:

> Bill, I love the design constraints (one-day build, single-speed touring, 
> AND low cost).  About 4 years ago, motivated by my Quickbeam's setup of 
> "One Speed, One Cog, One God" (exactly, Patrick :) -- but needing 
> significantly more luggage capacity than a Quickbeam for living car-free -- 
> I did a VO Campeur single-speed conversion via a Surly Ultra New 
> Singlespeed MTB Rear Hub and a Paul chain tensioner.  The Riv/Nitto Big 
> Back Rack, naturally.  Porteur front rack.  Albatross bars. As you can 
> see...
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/millhiser/28828007907/in/album-72157668716780897/
>
> Darn thing ended up being $1200 more than my Quickbeam, and it took me 
> weeks to build it, so I failed 2 of 3 of your constraints.  But I love the 
> simplicity of singlespeed touring. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Will
>   
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:12:08 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I had a chromed Soma Rush with a similar gear setup (two chainrings up 
>> front and two cogs on a road wheelset). That was a wickedly fun bike to 
>> mess around on and my first steps into non-conventional builds. Shoulda 
>> kept it but at least it paid for our first couch. 
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:46:51 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>>
>>> hey bill looks great, and the pre-scratch & dent frames can be a little 
>>> liberating, but even with the parts bin build, a quickbeam is always gonna 
>>> look great!
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 2:14:07 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 That's an interesting project. The Puritan in me insists on "One Ring 
 One Cog One God" (and no g-d freewheel) as an old t-shirt from the fixie 
 fad era proclaimed, but I also have worked up devious ways to have my 
 single-fixed gear cake and multiple gear options to eat too.

 As to the contest, best ss touring/commuter/all rounder/beater ride for 
 the dollar, I have to recall one that got away, that early '90s rigid 
 top-end Diamond Back Axis Team (beautifully tapered, skinny straight leg 
 fork; no one can tell me that straight forks can't be beautiful) that I 
 converted with ENO hub to a 64" fixed gear all rounder with 60 mm Big 
 Apples. Perfectly neutral handling, high bb allowing you to pedal the 170 
 mm cranks around corners, tires that rolled acceptably on pavement, 
 floated 
 over sand, and shrugged off goatheads even though this was 10 years before 
 good sealants. All this was achieved largely for the cost of the ENO hub, 
 as my brother gave me a family deal on the frameset and I had the other 
 bits lying around; but it has been too long for me to recall a total.

 I think this project beat out even that other low-cost fixed/ss project 
 using an early-gen Raleigh Technium sports tourer.

 On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 1:41 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> A while back I posted a WTB for a 58cm Quickbeam.  I finally found a 
> frameset/wheelset on a trade.  It had all been ridden pretty hard as a 
> commuter, and that pre-installed beausage kind of liberated me from some 
> of 
> the usual perfectionist tendencies that I have with my builds.  
>
> A thread over on iBob showed off a ~$3000 Pro's Closet listing of a 
> Vanilla branded "single speed tourer", and one of the responders 
> suggested 
> that we should have a build-off: build the nicest single speed tourer you 
> can for the minimum amount of money.  
>
> In response to that challenge I threw together a one-day build using 
> entirely stuff laying around in my parts collection.  Particularly 
> iconoclastic details include a gold anodized Nitto Pearl 11 stem, a 
> heavily 
> modified brakeset, and handlebar tape entirely fashioned from remnants.  
> Anyway, if you want to have a look, I've got a flickr album:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720300383026
>
> It's actually a 6-speed single speed.  In the album, there are 35/38 
> chainrings, a 20/22 Dos/ENO freewheel on one side and a 17T fixed cog on 
> the other.  I did some calculatio

[RBW] Re: Cheviot for trade/sale

[alan lavine]

So sorry...this is a 60 cm. Knew I forgot something!

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 9:24:34 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> Sorry to say that no trades are in sight and several have expressed 
> interest in a sale.I tried to research a reasonable price but data are hard 
> to come by since very few of these end up on the market. I'm gonna ask 
> $2150 net to me. Buyer pays shipping, even if it requires 2 boxes because 
> of size. I'll do the tedious packing for free. Local pick up earns a $100 
> discount. The Brooks saddle stays with me, it's attached to my butt.
> Here are the details, LMK if I've forgotten something.
>
> Soma Oxford handlebars, albatross equivalent 
> Nitto Technomic stem
> Vintage no name mt. bike brake levers
> Suntour bar con shifters, black lever covers labeled Raleigh
> Sackville HB bag
> Tektro 559 brakes with kool-stop inserts
> Shimano Deore hubs laced to Mavic 519 rims
> Soma Supple Vitesse SL 700 x 48 tires with minimal use
> Love Mud flat pedals
> VO double crank 46/30
> uno seatpost
> Claris front der. Acera rear der.
> 7 speed Shimano HG cassette 34 T max.
> Greenfield kickstand
> KMC chain
> Carradice Barley bag with Bagman support 
> Last, but by no means least, Sackville hub shiners!!
>
> Not the way I thought it would go, but let's go with it. Hope this all 
> sounds reasonable to you.
> Best,
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:02:37 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> No trade offers yet.  Anyone interested in a sale? I'll work up a spec 
>> sheet and price.
>> Local pick up a big bonus!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Someone requested pics about my previous post. If you need more specific 
>>> info contact me please. 
>>> Thanks 
>>> Alan 
>>>
>>>

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