date:20221112

The hiccup will be rear spacing for the hub, it's 135 OLD on those Rivs, 
RBs used 126 or 130 hubs. 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 12:17:11 PM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:

> Hi all, first post, warm greetings.
>
> I have a super nice RB-1 which is too racy for my desires.  I have long 
> been looking at a new Rivendell Hillborne or Appaloosa.  I would love to 
> use my RB-1 parts on it if they will fit.  No worries about over gearing as 
> I am in Florida.
>
> Shimano 600 derailleur, Sugino DGX crank 40/52, Shimano 13/25 cassette, 
> and Shimano RX-100 hubs,  Ritchey stem, Wolber 700c 32H wheels.  I have an 
> Albatross bar, Dia Compe MTB levers and a Brooks B-17 that will transfer 
> over.  
>
> Will the rest of it fit?
>
> I could turn the RB-1 into a fixed gear rig just for occasional 
> punishment. I'm not inclined to sell it.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
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[RBW] WTB: Analog/Discord 30mm Threaded Stem

2022-11-12 Thread Jared Wilson

Hey gang,

Looking to shorten the reach on my Susie with a 30mm Discord/Analog 
threaded stem.

Don't care which color, have parts to trade or will purchase outright.

Please respond off list, thanks :)

Jared

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Luke Hendrickson

Jacob,

The heart wants what the heart wants. Lugged is very, very nice, but the 
fillets on the Gus are pretty af. Plus, having the option to monster truck 
it later is nice. That’s one reason I adore my MIT Atlantis: versatility. 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:16:55 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I love the Romanceur but can’t do low trail anymore. I had a crash last 
> year and can no longer ride drops. I seem to notice the way low trail 
> handles now and it doesn’t inspire confidence. It’s a shame too because I 
> have a beautiful rando bag. The Romanceur would be a perfect fit for me. 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jacob 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:32 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>
> I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates them 
> the same, as far as durability. 
>
>
> There’s been some good suggestions already. 
>
> I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 853 
> steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride that you 
> describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version). 
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
>> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
>> other always came up. 
>>
>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
>> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
>> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
>> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>>
>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
>> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
>> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>>
>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
>> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
>> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
>> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>>
>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road 
>> as the Platypus?  
>>
>> Thanks for the help! 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jacob
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

I love the Romanceur but can’t do low trail anymore. I had a crash last year and can no longer ride drops. I seem to notice the way low trail handles now and it doesn’t inspire confidence. It’s a shame too because I have a beautiful rando bag. The Romanceur would be a perfect fit for me. Cheers,Jacob Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 12, 2022, at 8:32 PM, Hoch in ut wrote:I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates them the same, as far as durability. There’s been some good suggestions already. I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 853 steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride that you describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version). On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or other always came up. The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as the Platypus? Thanks for the help! Cheers,Jacob

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[RBW] Re: Zero-rise Albatross Bar?

2022-11-12 Thread Kieran J

I used to roll on that bar (on a different bike with a shorter TT); it 
currently resides on my wife's commuter. It's also a good one, but not what 
I need.

KJ


On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 12:24:22 PM UTC-8 rus...@gmail.com wrote:

> Personally, I use the Ahearne+Map bar on my ol’ Raleigh 3-speed and like 
> it; however, it does have a 25 mm rise.
>
> https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar
>
> Russell Duncan
> Leverett, MA USA
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 6:45:56 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> Soma Three Speed bar #2 is fantastic, and while not flat, it’s pretty low 
>> profile.
>> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/moustache-ii-bar
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 1:45:41 PM UTC-4 Kieran J wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking for a handlebar that's very much like the Alba bars but 
>>> flat/no rise. Essentially an Alba-size porteur. 
>>>
>>> Anyone have any suggestions? The Choco bars are close but not quite 
>>> flat. 
>>>
>>> KJ
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Danny

Mack, thanks for the stats and the pic, cool build! Has me thinking I want 
to trade my Appaloosa in for a Platy now, hmmm.
-Danny



On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 7:32:37 PM UTC-6 Hoch in ut wrote:

> I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates them the 
> same, as far as durability. 
>
> There’s been some good suggestions already. 
>
> I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 853 
> steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride that you 
> describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version). 
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
>> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
>> other always came up. 
>>
>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
>> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
>> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
>> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>>
>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
>> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
>> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>>
>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
>> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
>> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
>> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>>
>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road 
>> as the Platypus?  
>>
>> Thanks for the help! 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jacob
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Hoch in ut

I’d agree Gus is not the right bike. Neither is a Clem. Riv rates them the 
same, as far as durability. 

There’s been some good suggestions already. 

I’d offer a non-Riv option: Crust Romanceur. Light, lugged frame. 853 
steel. 650b x 2.4” clearance. In my opinion, perfect for the ride that you 
describe. Mine rides light and springy (mine is the canti version). 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 6:55:02 AM UTC-7 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
> other always came up. 
>
> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>
> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>
> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>
> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as 
> the Platypus?  
>
> Thanks for the help! 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jacob
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just purchsed a platypus

2022-11-12 Thread Edward Garnica

I figured I think it did say it wasn’t sram friendly. Wondering if the
shimano eight speed 11-40 listed on the riv site is my best bet. Would like
to go bigger but also want it to be as functional as possible.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 4:38 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> It's a bigger-barrel version of Riv Silver, which works well with Shimano
> geometry. My understanding - others feel free to chime in - is they don't
> work as well with SRAM 1:1 actuation, it will require more throw than the
> lever delivers. It will friction-shift Shimano for sure.
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:34:31 PM UTC-8 edwardb...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> It says 11 speed compatible on friction. Anyone messed with one of these
>> thumbies before?
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 2:53 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> *SRAM Rival 1
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:51:11 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Whatever the biggest cassette/derailer combo Shimano makes is what
 you'll need. I use a SRAM 1 derailer and SunRace 11-50 11-speed cassette on
 a WI hub, but I don't think your Dia-Compe friction shifters work with SRAM
 1:1 actuation ratio.

 On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 12:23:32 PM UTC-8
 edwardb...@gmail.com wrote:

> So I'm purchasing all the parts while awaiting shipment. My question:
>
> What is the largest rear cassette/derailleur combo that I can
> comfortably run with a 1x white industries square taper front crank, 42t,
> with a single dia-compe ene 11S thumb shifter? I am building the rear 
> wheel
> with a WI m15 hub shimano hyperglide compatibility.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Just purchsed a platypus

It's a bigger-barrel version of Riv Silver, which works well with Shimano 
geometry. My understanding - others feel free to chime in - is they don't 
work as well with SRAM 1:1 actuation, it will require more throw than the 
lever delivers. It will friction-shift Shimano for sure. 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:34:31 PM UTC-8 edwardb...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> It says 11 speed compatible on friction. Anyone messed with one of these 
> thumbies before? 
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 2:53 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> *SRAM Rival 1
>>
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:51:11 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Whatever the biggest cassette/derailer combo Shimano makes is what 
>>> you'll need. I use a SRAM 1 derailer and SunRace 11-50 11-speed cassette on 
>>> a WI hub, but I don't think your Dia-Compe friction shifters work with SRAM 
>>> 1:1 actuation ratio. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 12:23:32 PM UTC-8 edwardb...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 So I'm purchasing all the parts while awaiting shipment. My question:

 What is the largest rear cassette/derailleur combo that I can 
 comfortably run with a 1x white industries square taper front crank, 42t, 
 with a single dia-compe ene 11S thumb shifter? I am building the rear 
 wheel 
 with a WI m15 hub shimano hyperglide compatibility. 

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Re: [RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Garth

I can relate to options. I ride my Bombadil with 50mm Big Bens the same as
I ride my custom Franklin with 33mm tires. They're just two distinct
variations of a bicycle. I ride both on the road, regardless of it's
quality of surface. I don't consider one good for this, or the other good
for that, I'll ride either anywhere I ride the other. The Bombadil design
and tubing is thicker than 531ST, but so what ? It's not like we're
comparing a feather to a tank.

I also bought a Susie when they came out. I have yet to build it, I'm in no
hurry to either as I have two working bikes already. I thought about
selling it for a Rosco Platy as it was purple. The rationale was as you, I
don't "need" the wide tire capacity of the Susie. After getting the
geometry and thinking it over . nah ... what was I thinking ? It
offered nothing that the Susie didn't, and it had all the same to me,
limitations., a 26.8 post and no rear canti cable stop, plus the bb is
lower. I bought the Susie over a Clem because the BB was 70mm and not 80mm.
My Bombadil is 80mm also and sometimes I wish it was higher. Not for
clearance, just the feel. Plus the names Rosco nor Platypus don't do
anything for me. Neither did the look of the Rosco or the Platypus. Susie
Longbolts that I just smile with when I think of that name, I can't
help it. I think of all those women during the WWII years that did all the
jobs that they guys away at war did. The "Longbolts" being a complimentary
nickname. Platypus ? I don't relate to.no affinity for it... and all
the sales pitching just made it more obvious. Like taste in foods, one
likes what they like and that's that. Both Gus and Susie are fictional
names, that leaves them open to using the imagination to relate.

I don't ride upright like driving Miss Daisy either and like being
stretched out, and the Susie/Gus has all the real estate I would need. I
have some 52mm and 55mm tires for the Susie and that's fine with me. Is
that too wide, too narrow ? Compared to what, and when, and how ? Are
comparisons ever valid ? Is one ever two ? Challenge the cliche's and
so-called ways of convention. Repeating them doesn't make it so.

Giddyup Gus and Go !

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Re: [RBW] Sharing Your Fall Foliage Fotos 2022

Beauty! I dig these, the second especially!

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 3:19:30 PM UTC-5 ma...@mindmechanics.net 
wrote:

> Here’s a couple from just outside Glasgow, Scotland.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
> On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 18:29, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Great pics Takashi and Brady :) 
>>
>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 10:42:00 AM UTC-4 Takashi wrote:
>>
>>> After all the colorful photos, Brady's snowy photo almost looks like 
>>> monochrome (except for the bike).
>>>
>>> Here are couple of photos from today's ride.
>>> It was like a bit too late for the peak colorfulness, but it was still 
>>> enjoyable.
>>>
>>> Takashi
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[RBW] Re: Video: Vintage lugged steel mixte restoration

Thanks so much, Elizabeth and Mike! I really appreciate it. If only I could 
find a few nice, flat sheets of 3/4 plywood... for free!

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 3:24:23 PM UTC-5 michaels...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Great vid Eric! The field recordings are always a really nice touch. I 
> agree with Paul definitely jealous of your workshop space and how organized 
> it looks. If you do decide to expand your workshop, the process would make 
> another great video!
>
> -Mike, SF
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 8:11:13 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That's a nice mixte, Paul, thanks for sharing. 
>>
>> Is that a Suntour Compe-V high normal front derailer? I *love* the cage 
>> on those but don't think I'd be down for the high normal arrangement. 
>>
>> That's something that hasn't come up in all our discussions of rapid 
>> rise, the few high-normal front mechs out there! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Nice looking mixte Paul. I see you have an Uno seat post as well. As I 
>>> recall the Shogun had an odd size, not too many options to chose from.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 7:46:16 PM UTC-4 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>>




 I've got the 1973 Nishiki low step 22" frame going and it's a nice 
 riding bike.

 I have a tan saddle on the way and a few other changes planned.

 Remarkable to think it will be 50 years old next year and going strong.

 When I get too decrepit to straddle a diamond frame perhaps I can 
 straddle this. 
 Ha! 
 Or acquire a low step Riv.

 Paul in Dallas.
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Re: [RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

Jacob, 

I like em, too, and wish I'd kept my Susie for these crazy-choppy roads I 
ended up moving to less than a year after selling it. I really liked that 
huge floaty tire thing, plus the fillet welds are very pretty. If I ever 
find a Gus (or another Susie) in my size at a time when I can cough up the 
cash, that baby is MINE. 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:46:35 PM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Mack- Wow that's great to hear. At 6'7'' that's longer than me. The 
> stiffness of the Bridge Club is nice when loaded down but it's not 
> something I look for in a frame. The Lighting Bolt will flex and rides 
> really nice. It's nice to hear that you have the Juan Martin bar. I've been 
> using it on my Trucker and really like it. Thanks for the points of 
> reference! 
>
> @Joe- You are dead correct. 
>
> @Eric- I saw the ad. That's a great looking bike! I'm really looking to 
> build a frame up. I think I enjoy tinker with bike as much as riding them. 
> Good luck with your sale!
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:25:58 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I'll just plug that I have a 60cm Rosco Plat for sale 
>> , only 
>> one state away :)
>>
>> [image: IMG_4997.JPG]
>>
>> Eric
>> Plain City, OH
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 8:55 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>>
>>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
>>> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
>>> other always came up. 
>>>
>>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
>>> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
>>> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
>>> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>>>
>>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
>>> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
>>> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>>>
>>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
>>> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
>>> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
>>> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>>>
>>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road 
>>> as the Platypus?  
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help! 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jacob
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo 2022

Hi Jonathan — was this a demo bike in the Swift booth? Assuming as much 
from the Blue Lug x Swift luggage :) 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 3:24:55 PM UTC-5 jonathan...@gmail.com 
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> [image: 20221029_154132.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Danny

@Mack, what's your saddle height? At 6'3" w/ a 97cm pbh, I never thought
I'd fit all that well on a Platy, but you've got me reconsidering that.

-Danny

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 4:46 PM Jacob Byard  wrote:

> @Mack- Wow that's great to hear. At 6'7'' that's longer than me. The
> stiffness of the Bridge Club is nice when loaded down but it's not
> something I look for in a frame. The Lighting Bolt will flex and rides
> really nice. It's nice to hear that you have the Juan Martin bar. I've been
> using it on my Trucker and really like it. Thanks for the points of
> reference!
>
> @Joe- You are dead correct.
>
> @Eric- I saw the ad. That's a great looking bike! I'm really looking to
> build a frame up. I think I enjoy tinker with bike as much as riding them.
> Good luck with your sale!
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:25:58 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I'll just plug that I have a 60cm Rosco Plat for sale
>> , only
>> one state away :)
>>
>> [image: IMG_4997.JPG]
>>
>> Eric
>> Plain City, OH
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 8:55 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>>
>>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a
>>> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or
>>> other always came up.
>>>
>>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved
>>> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff
>>> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike
>>> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride.
>>>
>>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town
>>> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding
>>> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry.
>>>
>>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the
>>> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a
>>> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last
>>> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful).
>>>
>>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road
>>> as the Platypus?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Jacob
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Black Titanium B17 and Nitto S83 26.8

2022-11-12 Thread Danny

Emailed you directly.

-Danny

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:20:41 PM UTC-6 ryanca...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi, all:
>
> I'm hoping to find a home for a saddle and seat post.  I rode the b17 for 
> a couple hundred miles, so it has molded a bit to my body.  The seat post 
> has a few scratches from insertion/removal.  
>
> 100 for the saddle.  45 for the post.  Local pickup in the DC area would 
> be great, but I'm happy to ship.
>
> Feel free to email me at care...@hotmail.com.  Not sure I understand how 
> Google Groups works and sometimes miss replies.  
>
> Best,
>
> Ryan
>
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[RBW] Re: Just purchsed a platypus

*SRAM Rival 1

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:51:11 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Whatever the biggest cassette/derailer combo Shimano makes is what you'll 
> need. I use a SRAM 1 derailer and SunRace 11-50 11-speed cassette on a WI 
> hub, but I don't think your Dia-Compe friction shifters work with SRAM 1:1 
> actuation ratio. 
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 12:23:32 PM UTC-8 edwardb...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> So I'm purchasing all the parts while awaiting shipment. My question:
>>
>> What is the largest rear cassette/derailleur combo that I can comfortably 
>> run with a 1x white industries square taper front crank, 42t, with a single 
>> dia-compe ene 11S thumb shifter? I am building the rear wheel with a WI m15 
>> hub shimano hyperglide compatibility. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FOR SALE : NITTO STEMS

2022-11-12 Thread 'Charlie' via RBW Owners Bunch

 ALL SOLD 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 4:04:24 PM UTC-5 Charlie wrote:

> NITTO STEMS ALL ARE FORGED - 22.2 mm DIAMETERCIMG6611.JPG
>
> DIRT DROP  7.4 EXTENSION - 25.4 mm HANDLEBAR CLAMP
>
> TECHNOMIC  4.5 EXTENSION- 26   mm HANDLEBAR CLAMP
>
> TECHNOMIC 5.5 EXTENSION 26 mm CLAMP
>
> TECHNONIC 7.5  EXTENSION 26 mm CLAMP
>
> TECHNOMIC 9.5 EXTENSION  26 mm CLAMP
>
> NITTO  11.5 EXTENSION 25.4mm HANDLEBAR  CLAMP
>
> $20 EACH - ALL FOR $100 + SHIPPING $16 EACH OR ALL
>
> MEASUREMENTS DONE BY ME SO IF THERE IS A DISCREPANCY BLAME ME
>
> CONTACT OFF LIST PLEASE
>
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Re: [RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

@Mack- Wow that's great to hear. At 6'7'' that's longer than me. The 
stiffness of the Bridge Club is nice when loaded down but it's not 
something I look for in a frame. The Lighting Bolt will flex and rides 
really nice. It's nice to hear that you have the Juan Martin bar. I've been 
using it on my Trucker and really like it. Thanks for the points of 
reference! 

@Joe- You are dead correct. 

@Eric- I saw the ad. That's a great looking bike! I'm really looking to 
build a frame up. I think I enjoy tinker with bike as much as riding them. 
Good luck with your sale!

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 2:25:58 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> I'll just plug that I have a 60cm Rosco Plat for sale 
> , only 
> one state away :)
>
> [image: IMG_4997.JPG]
>
> Eric
> Plain City, OH
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 8:55 AM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>
>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
>> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
>> other always came up. 
>>
>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
>> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
>> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
>> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>>
>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
>> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
>> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>>
>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
>> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
>> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
>> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>>
>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road 
>> as the Platypus?  
>>
>> Thanks for the help! 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jacob
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Thumb shifters

2022-11-12 Thread Kim Hetzel

Hi Josh,

The thumb shifters have been SOLD. 

The brand of each of them are Sunrace and Micro Index.

Here are the picture links:
https://i.imgur.com/31A1aT6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4UumNKX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dol9obg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3sPidpy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fTE7pa1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vcUkpdw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/945wMYa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TS4qXkB.jpg

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.


On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 12:20:50 PM UTC-8 joshm...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi Kim if not the brand,etc, can we have a photo of them? 
>
> Josh in NYC 
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022, 10:08 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
>> I have a pair of used thumb shifters. They came off of my Clem Smith Jr. 
>> "L" bike, which is gear as a 2x9. Personally, I do not care for them. I 
>> switched them out and I installed a pair of Suntour BARCON ratchet bar end 
>> shifters from my parts drawer.
>>
>> The shifters are from different manufacturers. One of the shifters for 
>> the rear derailleurs has a scuff mark at the end of the lever. They both 
>> functioned well prior to removal on my nine cogged cassette.
>>
>> $50.00, shipped in the CONUS
>>
>> Thank-you for your interest,
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> Pictures here 
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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

2022-11-12 Thread Mack Penner

 Patrick, Dustin: don't worry too much about me. -20 and calmish around 
here is much preferable to the alternative of, say, 5 degrees with 80kmh 
winds. One way or the other, Patrick is correct: it's dry as can be in 
these parts. My coldest-feeling commutes were living near Toronto, where 
it's much wetter. I'm also not that hardcore - my buddy Andrew in Calgary 
(hi Andrew, he's in the group) is twice as hardcore when it comes to winter 
commutes, and in harsh winter places like Edmonton and Winnipeg there are 
some real maniacs, I think. 

To your question, Patrick, I am large load capable with the Joe but the 
basket/rack combo is pretty light, and the bags usually aren't full. Often 
just a big U-lock in the saddle bag and my messenger in the basket. Today, 
not joking, I lost traction and did a 
slow-motion-almost-360-degree-pirouette/donut on a parking lot ice sheet 
and stayed upright, so handling is fine! 

Anyways, blah blah blah, I'm glad to be riding the Joe when I wouldn't have 
before. 

Mack 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:20:41 PM UTC-7 joshm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Imo one of the saddest things you can write in a FS post is "barely ridden"
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 6:15 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
>> Did you read Grant’s Blahg? He covers a lot of ground, but most notable 
>> to me was the Please Don’t Be Precious About Your Rivendell section. In 
>> sum, Grant is saying it saddens him to think of people riding beater bikes 
>> instead of their Rivendells to do daily, monotonous tasks - because those 
>> tasks make up a lot of real life. If one “saves” their Rivendell, it will 
>> not realize its potential, sit mostly unused and then pass to one’s heirs 
>> who will sell it in “near mint” condition on EBay, and how sad. What was 
>> the bike for?
>>
>> I have found myself both guilty and innocent on the matter. My #1 
>> favorite bike is my raspberry Platypus. I ride it all the time, because I 
>> bought it to ride it, but I also dread any harm coming to it, and I do 
>> guard it from that. I got a second Platypus that I dedicated to shopping 
>> and traveling with and promised not to be precious about it. But now and 
>> then I still am tempted to backslide. When traveling to the Philly Bike 
>> Expo I dithered about which bike to bring. I didn’t want my raspberry Platy 
>> damaged while locked up at racks and I feared it being stolen. Roberta 
>> said, “I don’t think you have a choice, Leah. That’s the bike people will 
>> expect you to bring.” And she was right, and I did. 
>>
>> Then, there is Pam. Pam is at the other far end of the spectrum. Her bike 
>> is a model of beausage. Innumerable paint chips and little spots of rust 
>> cover her tiny Betty frame. Her Backabike bags are full of holes and the 
>> elastic closures are worn out. She locks it up and never worries about it. 
>> She did not obsessively stare out the restaurant window to see if it was 
>> still locked to the rack while we were at dinner (like yours truly). But 
>> she loves her bike, has real affection for it. She looked at me, eyes 
>> shining, and said exactly that. Ana, PurpleRiv, is another good example to 
>> us. She adores her bike, but has not spared it from hard work. Her bike has 
>> hauled obscene loads and taken her everywhere. I remember there was that 
>> one fateful camping trip for she 1. Posed it for a photo, only to have it 
>> topple and slide down the face of a boulder next to it. I believe she said 
>> she sat there and wept for 2 hours over her Joe Bell paint. And who among 
>> us would not do the same? 2. Same trip, another photo op, and the bike fell 
>> off a cliff. 
>>
>> So, who truly loves their Rivendell? The one who lavishes it with care 
>> and protection? Or the one who pulls it out of the garage and into all of 
>> life - the mundane and the adventurous? 
>>
>> On one end of the spectrum we have those who will only take a Rivendell 
>> out for special occasions so as not to spoil it, and on the other…well, we 
>> have Pam and Ana, who will give it a good thrashing. (Oh, don’t take it 
>> personally, friends, I’m being funny about both types of owners.)
>>
>> I find myself wanting to be precious but fighting it and succeeding 
>> *most* of the time. I’m lucky that the raspberry paint hides beausage and 
>> dirt, so it looks pretty new. But a dent in the top tube or a large chip in 
>> the paint would really hurt my feelings. Heaven help me. 
>>
>> Where are you on the spectrum? What words of wisdom might you have? What 
>> strategies do you employ? Do you want to change? Or are you 
>> unapologetically staying put on the matter? It might be fun to hear 
>> perspectives.
>> Leah
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Silver 2 bar end shifters

2022-11-12 Thread lconley

I haven't taken them apart, so I don't know for sure, but I believe that 
they are very similar if not identical. I seem to recall that the 2s are 
supposed to have some improvements over the 1s. I have three sets of Silver 
2s at the moment, and they all seem to be different in terms of feel. One 
set is fairly stiff and another will rotate with zero effort. The ratchet 
mechanisms of the 1s and 2s are the same from outward appearance, and the 
same as Dia-Compe from outward appearance. These came on my Custom, but I 
prefer the looks of the Silver 1s, for frame mounted. The 2s are better as 
thumb shifters in my mind.

Laing
Delray Beach FL

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 3:18:34 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Query: Do these have the same internal fine ratchets as the Silver 1s? 
>
> I did like the action of the 1s but gave up on them after something (can't 
> recall what) cracked twice when the bike fell over; I went back to Barcons 
> which are also very nice -- better than Shimano current and original DA 
> BES. Also, I found the Silver 1 levers too long; the levers pictured look 
> more comfortable.
>
> I do prefer the Shimano plugs over the Suntour plugs.
>
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 10:57 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>
>> Three thumbs up for the Silver 2 shifters as bar-end shifters. If you are 
>> hesitant to run them as bar end shifters, they are very adaptable. The 
>> right side/rear shifter does loosen a bit on rides, but the shape is fine. 
>> If ya'll are accustomed to friction shifting, piece 'o cake. Just a few 
>> millimeters stroke and the next gear is in place. Looking back at the cogs 
>> is not required.
>>
>> Mike SLO CA 
>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:03:59 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>
>>> any interest in keeping the pods and selling the shifters?
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 4:08:35 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
 Rivendell Silver 2 bar end shifters mounted on Shimano Bar End Pods. 2 
 minutes with a Dremel tool on the pods and spacers and a second metal 
 washer and everything fits and lines up just fine. Mounted and tested, but 
 everything is otherwise new. $115 shipped CONUS or best offer.

 [image: lineups.jpg][image: XO bar endss.jpg]

 Laing
 Delray Beach FL

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

2022-11-12 Thread Alan Craig Barnard

Hi,

I picked up my 60cm Platypus frame from Riv headquarters last Wednesday 
(James said I was the first to pick up).

The box was sealed from Taiwan. Upon unpacking, the headset cups were 
installed, the fork was not, the loose headset parts were in a plastic bag. 
Installing the fork was not difficult, though I did look up a spec sheet 
for the headset to be sure I placed the seals in the correct orientation.

Both the derailleur hanger and the bottom bracket shell needed chasing. The 
drive side of the BB was fine, but there was some brazing material that 
needed cleaning on the non-drive side. Not a big deal. 

The headbadge was slightly loose, I wrapped a couple of rubber bands around 
the badge and head tube overnight which solved the problem.

My wheels won’t arrive for another few weeks, I’ll check the derailleur 
alignment then. 

These are all pretty normal little things you’d expect to encounter on a 
frame delivered directly from the factory. Overall I’m extremely pleased 
and the frame is drop dead gorgeous. I’m sort of documenting the build 
process on Instagram if anyone is interested: @ecovelo.us

Alan

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 5:50:29 PM UTC-7 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Scott
>
> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open the 
> box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One can 
> see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames than 5 
> years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the level of 
> service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>
>> Joe:
>>
>> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed 
>> a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement 
>> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they 
>> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I 
>> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My 
>> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There 
>> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on 
>> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label 
>> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed 
>> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned 
>> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are 
>> chased.
>>
>> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
>> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
>> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and 
>> pay to have it done, anyways.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they are 
>> with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I knew I 
>> still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads and 
>> check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>
>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>> type road bike.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>> out in mere hours. 
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they did 
>> during the pandemic.
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
>> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
>> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
>> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
>> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>
>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>> have

[RBW] Re: Video: Vintage lugged steel mixte restoration

2022-11-12 Thread Mike Young

Great vid Eric! The field recordings are always a really nice touch. I 
agree with Paul definitely jealous of your workshop space and how organized 
it looks. If you do decide to expand your workshop, the process would make 
another great video!

-Mike, SF
On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 8:11:13 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's a nice mixte, Paul, thanks for sharing. 
>
> Is that a Suntour Compe-V high normal front derailer? I *love* the cage 
> on those but don't think I'd be down for the high normal arrangement. 
>
> That's something that hasn't come up in all our discussions of rapid rise, 
> the few high-normal front mechs out there! 
>
> On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Nice looking mixte Paul. I see you have an Uno seat post as well. As I 
>> recall the Shogun had an odd size, not too many options to chose from.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 7:46:16 PM UTC-4 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've got the 1973 Nishiki low step 22" frame going and it's a nice 
>>> riding bike.
>>>
>>> I have a tan saddle on the way and a few other changes planned.
>>>
>>> Remarkable to think it will be 50 years old next year and going strong.
>>>
>>> When I get too decrepit to straddle a diamond frame perhaps I can 
>>> straddle this. 
>>> Ha! 
>>> Or acquire a low step Riv.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas.
>>> .
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Zero-rise Albatross Bar?

2022-11-12 Thread Russell Duncan

Personally, I use the Ahearne+Map bar on my ol’ Raleigh 3-speed and like 
it; however, it does have a 25 mm rise.

https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar

Russell Duncan
Leverett, MA USA
On Tuesday, November 1, 2022 at 6:45:56 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Soma Three Speed bar #2 is fantastic, and while not flat, it’s pretty low 
> profile.
> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/moustache-ii-bar
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 1:45:41 PM UTC-4 Kieran J wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a handlebar that's very much like the Alba bars but 
>> flat/no rise. Essentially an Alba-size porteur. 
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions? The Choco bars are close but not quite flat. 
>>
>> KJ
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

2022-11-12 Thread Alan Barnard

I also found the derailleur hanger out of alignment more than usual. Like 
you said though, not a difficult fix. I also had some brazing material 
leftover in the left hand bottom bracket threads that required chasing. The 
Phil Wood retaining cup wouldn’t go in on that side, but was fine after 
chasing. 

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 8:48:09 AM UTC-7 Mark C wrote:

> My Rosco Platypus came with the fork off, but lots of extra packing added 
> to the box by Rivendell. I ordered the Park derailleur alignment tool since 
> that is the bike shop standard and not that much money. I was surprised how 
> far the tab was out of alignment, but it was no big deal to put it right. 
> It is probably a good idea to watch a couple videos if you haven't seen one 
> used before. It took me a little longer than expected to finish putting 
> mine together since I had a lot of parts decisions to sort out, but got to 
> ride it the day after the frame arrived. These are amazing bikes.
>
> BTW, I really like how Will routed the rear brake cable on his Platypus 
> more or less straight to the V brake noodle instead of going up then down, 
> so I did something similar. I'm surprised this isn't the standard build 
> now. You can just barely see it with the staff bike pictures on their site.
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/wills-60cm-platypus
> I ran just a bit longer housing at the rear and decided that needed a wire 
> tie or twine to bring it closer to the frame. Will's looks shorter/tighter 
> and probably didn't need that.
>
> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:52:14 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> There is one on Amazon for 37.50 that is a clone of the Park:
>>
>> [image: tool.JPG]
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 10:47:19 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you  Laing for the derailleur hanger alignment tool tip. I think 
>>> I'll order this one from Nashbar, only $54.95.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.nashbar.com/super-b-derailleur-hanger-alignment-gauge-silver-tb-1946/p1398199?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqoibBhDUARIsAH2OpWgTQxYdht-0vbnpE-So3anrX8FnoYvXu0tfPrjzHaAV72CFexJOtlkaAtXGEALw_wcB
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:49:28 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>>
 An Instagram update from yesterday shows Platypus frames are being 
 packed and shipped!
 https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckbmiz_S5GB/

 Anyone get a shipping notification for theirs yet?

 -Dave

 On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Scott
>
> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open 
> the box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One 
> can see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames 
> than 5 years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the 
> level of service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>
>> Joe:
>>
>> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and 
>> posed a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket 
>> statement about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I 
>> was 
>> told they receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and 
>> that 
>> a F/F I purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent 
>> to 
>> me. My "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. 
>> There wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be 
>> done on F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new 
>> shipping label on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and 
>> am a 
>> little bummed I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is 
>> properly aligned after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt 
>> the 
>> threads are chased.
>>
>> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should 
>> be part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger 
>> position somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going 
>> to 
>> travel and pay to have it done, anyways.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they 
>> are with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I 
>> knew I still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the 
>> threads 
>> and check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>
>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>> complete builds

Re: [RBW] Who is getting a Platypus?

2022-11-12 Thread Stephanie A.

I wish! I just bought a commuter bike this spring and have been busy making 
changes to it--maybe next year or the year after. Rivs that I wanted were 
all out of stock in my size when I needed a bike a few months ago.

On Wednesday, November 2, 2022 at 9:49:28 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> An Instagram update from yesterday shows Platypus frames are being packed 
> and shipped!
> https://www.instagram.com/p/Ckbmiz_S5GB/
>
> Anyone get a shipping notification for theirs yet?
>
> -Dave
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:50:29 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Scott
>>
>> AFAIK RBW had stated in the newsletter that they do not want to open the 
>> box just to check it sicne they need to ship it in another box.  One can 
>> see their logic, especially since they are handling many more frames than 5 
>> years ago, and can't/don't have the time to check them or feel the level of 
>> service they provided in the past is just unattainable now,
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:14:06 AM UTC-4 Scott wrote:
>>
>>> Joe:
>>>
>>> I talked to Riv earlier this week about purchasing an Atlantis and posed 
>>> a few questions about F/F prep. I'm not here to make a blanket statement 
>>> about how all F/F are handled before they depart Riv, but I was told they 
>>> receive the Atlantis F/F with headset already installed and that a F/F I 
>>> purchase would not have the hanger checked/aligned before sent to me. My 
>>> "guess" is they may not even unpack the F/F when they receive it. There 
>>> wouldn't be any reason for them to open it up, if nothing is to be done on 
>>> F/F. Maybe they are so busy it's easier to just place a new shipping label 
>>> on the box and out it goes. I live in rural Montana and am a little bummed 
>>> I have to travel a good distance just to ensure hanger is properly aligned 
>>> after spending $1750 on a new baby. And I would doubt the threads are 
>>> chased.
>>>
>>> Nothing whatsoever against Riv, just an observation. Seems it should be 
>>> part of the frame making process to quickly verify proper hanger position 
>>> somewhere between frame build completion and paint. I'm going to travel and 
>>> pay to have it done, anyways.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 08:21:39 PM MDT, Joe Bernard <
>>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Are these frames being sold as unprepped? I'm not clear on where they 
>>> are with that now but it would certainly slow down my "buy" finger if I 
>>> knew I still had to install the fork, adjust the headset, chase the threads 
>>> and check the derailer hanger adjustment. 
>>>
>>> Joe "I don't know how to do the last two parts" Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>> I imagine quite a few have sold but Riv not being able to offer many 
>>> complete builds may be reducing sales. Hopefully they can get caught up on 
>>> the backlog of builds in the queue. And, the Rosco version of the Platypus 
>>> was just released recently so that fulfilled some people's wish for a mixte 
>>> type road bike.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:13:17 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It would seem that demand is mirroring that of the housing market.  
>>> Decidedly cooler than 12 months ago when Platys and house listing were sold 
>>> out in mere hours. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:34:14 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>> I think they will sell pretty quick but not as lightning fast as they 
>>> did during the pandemic.
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
>>> There is still one Rosco Plat in 60cm of each color available, so maybe 
>>> supply and demand are balancing out. At least for the taller folks. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given 
>>> up trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the 
>>> water, heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of 
>>> the 2020 Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in 
>>> minutes. Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>>>
>>> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
>>> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
>>> have evened out by now. 
>>>
>>> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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[RBW] Just purchsed a platypus

2022-11-12 Thread Edward Garnica

So I'm purchasing all the parts while awaiting shipment. My question:

What is the largest rear cassette/derailleur combo that I can comfortably 
run with a 1x white industries square taper front crank, 42t, with a single 
dia-compe ene 11S thumb shifter? I am building the rear wheel with a WI m15 
hub shimano hyperglide compatibility. 

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[RBW] FS: Bullmoose bars, Soma Shikoro tires, Paul Seat Post

2022-11-12 Thread Daniel Rooke

Hello,

Prices do not include shipping, please supply a zip code to calculate 
shipping.   I can provide more photos of any of the items.  Also happy to 
answer any questions.

*Nitto Bullmoose handlebars* - same as the ones on Rivendell website - 
bought new and installed on one bike but never ridden - I just didn’t like 
the fit - $180

A Pair of Soma Shikoro 700 x 48 tires - almost no wear - $90

Paul Tall & Handsome Seatpost 27.2 x 360 Anodized silver - bought new and 
used for several months with some cosmetic signs of use - $150

Thanks

Photos: 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YSS3e0mvNmTuUIX1FnUoafdqjfeMrsYs?usp=sharing

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[RBW] Re: Who is getting a Platypus?

2022-11-12 Thread C Lin

I 50cm Platypus is supposed to arrive tomorrow 11/4

-Carlos in San Diego

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 12:53:24 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I can never tamp down my excitement over the Riv mixtes and have given up 
> trying. I’m SO excited that there is a paddle of Platypuses on the water, 
> heading to Rivendell as I type this. I remember the excitement of the 2020 
> Platypuses (which were delivered in 2021); they were gone in minutes. 
> Heartbreak and jubilee ensued and then came the waiting. 
>
> But the wait is nearly over because the presale is the 19th. I’m keen to 
> know if these will sell out as quickly or if demand and availability will 
> have evened out by now. 
>
> Who is purchasing a Platypus? 
>
> Leah
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Thumb shifters

2022-11-12 Thread Josh Brown

Hi Kim if not the brand,etc, can we have a photo of them?

Josh in NYC

On Thu, Nov 3, 2022, 10:08 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> I have a pair of used thumb shifters. They came off of my Clem Smith Jr.
> "L" bike, which is gear as a 2x9. Personally, I do not care for them. I
> switched them out and I installed a pair of Suntour BARCON ratchet bar end
> shifters from my parts drawer.
>
> The shifters are from different manufacturers. One of the shifters for the
> rear derailleurs has a scuff mark at the end of the lever. They both
> functioned well prior to removal on my nine cogged cassette.
>
> $50.00, shipped in the CONUS
>
> Thank-you for your interest,
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> Pictures here 
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[RBW] FS: Black Titanium B17 and Nitto S83 26.8

2022-11-12 Thread ryan carey

Hi, all:

I'm hoping to find a home for a saddle and seat post.  I rode the b17 for a 
couple hundred miles, so it has molded a bit to my body.  The seat post has 
a few scratches from insertion/removal.  

100 for the saddle.  45 for the post.  Local pickup in the DC area would be 
great, but I'm happy to ship.

Feel free to email me at careyr...@hotmail.com.  Not sure I understand how 
Google Groups works and sometimes miss replies.  

Best,

Ryan


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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

2022-11-12 Thread Josh Brown

Imo one of the saddest things you can write in a FS post is "barely ridden"

On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 6:15 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Did you read Grant’s Blahg? He covers a lot of ground, but most notable to
> me was the Please Don’t Be Precious About Your Rivendell section. In sum,
> Grant is saying it saddens him to think of people riding beater bikes
> instead of their Rivendells to do daily, monotonous tasks - because those
> tasks make up a lot of real life. If one “saves” their Rivendell, it will
> not realize its potential, sit mostly unused and then pass to one’s heirs
> who will sell it in “near mint” condition on EBay, and how sad. What was
> the bike for?
>
> I have found myself both guilty and innocent on the matter. My #1 favorite
> bike is my raspberry Platypus. I ride it all the time, because I bought it
> to ride it, but I also dread any harm coming to it, and I do guard it from
> that. I got a second Platypus that I dedicated to shopping and traveling
> with and promised not to be precious about it. But now and then I still am
> tempted to backslide. When traveling to the Philly Bike Expo I dithered
> about which bike to bring. I didn’t want my raspberry Platy damaged while
> locked up at racks and I feared it being stolen. Roberta said, “I don’t
> think you have a choice, Leah. That’s the bike people will expect you to
> bring.” And she was right, and I did.
>
> Then, there is Pam. Pam is at the other far end of the spectrum. Her bike
> is a model of beausage. Innumerable paint chips and little spots of rust
> cover her tiny Betty frame. Her Backabike bags are full of holes and the
> elastic closures are worn out. She locks it up and never worries about it.
> She did not obsessively stare out the restaurant window to see if it was
> still locked to the rack while we were at dinner (like yours truly). But
> she loves her bike, has real affection for it. She looked at me, eyes
> shining, and said exactly that. Ana, PurpleRiv, is another good example to
> us. She adores her bike, but has not spared it from hard work. Her bike has
> hauled obscene loads and taken her everywhere. I remember there was that
> one fateful camping trip for she 1. Posed it for a photo, only to have it
> topple and slide down the face of a boulder next to it. I believe she said
> she sat there and wept for 2 hours over her Joe Bell paint. And who among
> us would not do the same? 2. Same trip, another photo op, and the bike fell
> off a cliff.
>
> So, who truly loves their Rivendell? The one who lavishes it with care and
> protection? Or the one who pulls it out of the garage and into all of life
> - the mundane and the adventurous?
>
> On one end of the spectrum we have those who will only take a Rivendell
> out for special occasions so as not to spoil it, and on the other…well, we
> have Pam and Ana, who will give it a good thrashing. (Oh, don’t take it
> personally, friends, I’m being funny about both types of owners.)
>
> I find myself wanting to be precious but fighting it and succeeding *most*
> of the time. I’m lucky that the raspberry paint hides beausage and dirt, so
> it looks pretty new. But a dent in the top tube or a large chip in the
> paint would really hurt my feelings. Heaven help me.
>
> Where are you on the spectrum? What words of wisdom might you have? What
> strategies do you employ? Do you want to change? Or are you
> unapologetically staying put on the matter? It might be fun to hear
> perspectives.
> Leah
>
>
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[RBW] RBW52F

2022-11-12 Thread Edward Garnica

Anyone looking to part with their RBW52F rack? Just throwing a pebble in 
the lake...

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[RBW] Re: For Sale: clem 52

2022-11-12 Thread Oli Cowling

Price down to £950 / $1050 Shipped  

On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 4:14:58 PM UTC+1 Oli Cowling wrote:

> Hello, 
>
> I have my Clem 52 for sale. PBH 74 to 88 cm. 
>
> Its in London, UK. But I can post.
>
> Frame has signs of use and theres a scratch on the underside of the DT. 
> However - its hidden so didnt both me. 
>
> Deore, Altus, Claris shifting . braking is DXR silver brakes - very nice 
> Spa cycles chaiset w/ guard - 38x24 - 11-34 I belive at the back. 
> 650b wheelset. Deore x Velocity. SON x Velocity Syergery front. 
>
> Blue lug rear light 
> BM IQ-XS Front light. 
>
> Pedals are MKS Gramma - new ones designed by Riv. 
>
> Saddle Brooks Cambium 
>
> handlebars are Riv Chocco bullmoose I think thehy are called? 
>
> decathlon bell 
>
> Big ben tyres 
>
> sks blumel guards 
>
> rides really well - shifting and braking are top notch. Pads not too worn, 
> chain and all components are pretty new - nothing needs replacing i'd say. 
>
> Im just not rising this / enjoying it since building unfortunatly. 
> Hopefully someone out there can love it! 
>
> I am looking for £1000 or around  $1125 
>
> Would prefer local pickup but happy to post at cost. 
>
> Lemme know if you have any questions! 
>
> Seat bag holder, bottle, cage not included. 
>
> Photos here: 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1y0Zzj4Qyl32Zu7f87v1dU5-UybCoXi7g?usp=sharing
>
>
> oli 
>
>
>  
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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

Forgot to add that in fact I had a pretty 2003 custom derailleur Riv Road
modified into a fixed gear for commuting and errand use for years back when
I commuted 30 or 40 miles per day 3+ days per week, then for errands after
I started working at home; even put it on bus bike racks, Joe Bell paint
and all. I had built it with chichi parts and hung it on a wall where it
largely remained while I commuted on beaters, until I said, this is silly
and converted it. I had much more fun with it that way.

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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

Grant isn't saying it saddens him that people use beaters for everyday
riding, he's expressing doubt about being afraid to ride lovely Rivendells
in any but "ideal" and "special" occasions.

I largely agree with Grant; sure, have a pretty or "vanity" bike but don't
be paranoid about it; but have others that you don't mind scraping or
loading or locking up outside.

My own habit is made easier because I have bikes customized pretty exactly
for the different kinds of riding I do: stripped gofast, fully equipped
errand bike with almost identical geometry and fit and sharing many of the
same parts; "road" bike for our sandy dirt; and a beater single speed sandy
dirt bike with upright bar.

The gofast gets expensive parts and is treated with extra care, tho' I
certainly do use it for grocery shopping (up to~30 lb in the occasional-use
Sackville Medium, and I even ride it occasionally on firm dirt and gravel;
the errand bike gets expensive parts but I built it to load it and park it
in bike racks at need (tho' I rarely have need, and I'd not do so unless
things were very safe); road bike for dirt built with mid-level parts where
possible, tho' top of line rims tires bar brakes and saddle; Monocog gets
top of line tires but otherwise acceptable low end or already used parts
(ENO single crank because it gives a low Q and I got a good deal; thanks
Bill).

I *would* like to add a throwaway utility bike for shopping lockup in less
than perfectly safe conditions, but so far I have been able to wheel my
bike into the stores and businesses I can comfortably ride to.

Commenting as I read the other parts of the blog.

But at least the Hummer e-bike has an integrated kickstand plate!

There are e-bikes and e-bikes; some are really motorcycles; so it all
depends on what you mean.

There have been near-quarrelsome debates about e-bikes on the iBoblist and
the bulk of opinion, mine included, is that, if the motors are *assist* devices
-- meaning they are not little motorcycles -- and *if they have a ~ 20 mph
cutoff,* they are acceptable for iBoblist discussion. In fact, one of the
moderators (whose name I shall not shame by revealing it -- but *you know
who you are*) owns what looks to be a very nice (and expensive) e-bike to
regain fitness after an illness or injury. At closing-in on 68, I would
certain consider an e-assist bike if the alternative was riding less.

So, including the e-assist type in push-bike legislation and regulation
doesn't bother me. I'd regulate the motorcycle type much more strictly;
perhaps regulate it as a moped.

As for the new Silver line of products, I wish they'd go ever more against
the grain and sponsor a close-ratio 3-speed hub with pretty aluminum shell,
like the AR (direct, +7%, -7%). (Kidding, but it certainly would continue
their cross-wise product approach.)

+ 1 and 1,000 more for the basic Shimano aero ever; lever perfection, IMO.

Afghan people (Afghani is the currency), or rather the dominant Pathans,
often have light hair and blue eyes, especially when children.

[image: image.png]

Love sardines.

Skipped to beausage bit; read the other stuff many times before.

I'll spare you another photo of the 1999 Joe Starck gofast.

On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 4:15 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Did you read Grant’s Blahg? He covers a lot of ground, but most notable to
> me was the Please Don’t Be Precious About Your Rivendell section. In sum,
> Grant is saying it saddens him to think of people riding beater bikes
> instead of their Rivendells to do daily, monotonous tasks - because those
> tasks make up a lot of real life. If one “saves” their Rivendell, it will
> not realize its potential, sit mostly unused and then pass to one’s heirs
> who will sell it in “near mint” condition on EBay, and how sad. What was
> the bike for?
>
> I have found myself both guilty and innocent on the matter. My #1 favorite
> bike is my raspberry Platypus. I ride it all the time, because I bought it
> to ride it, but I also dread any harm coming to it, and I do guard it from
> that. I got a second Platypus that I dedicated to shopping and traveling
> with and promised not to be precious about it. But now and then I still am
> tempted to backslide. When traveling to the Philly Bike Expo I dithered
> about which bike to bring. I didn’t want my raspberry Platy damaged while
> locked up at racks and I feared it being stolen. Roberta said, “I don’t
> think you have a choice, Leah. That’s the bike people will expect you to
> bring.” And she was right, and I did.
>
> Then, there is Pam. Pam is at the other far end of the spectrum. Her bike
> is a model of beausage. Innumerable paint chips and little spots of rust
> cover her tiny Betty frame. Her Backabike bags are full of holes and the
> elastic closures are worn out. She locks it up and never worries about it.
> She did not obsessively stare out the restaurant window to see if it was
> still locked to the rack while we were at dinner

Re: [RBW] Re: FS Silver 2 bar end shifters

Query: Do these have the same internal fine ratchets as the Silver 1s?

I did like the action of the 1s but gave up on them after something (can't
recall what) cracked twice when the bike fell over; I went back to Barcons
which are also very nice -- better than Shimano current and original DA
BES. Also, I found the Silver 1 levers too long; the levers pictured look
more comfortable.

I do prefer the Shimano plugs over the Suntour plugs.

On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 10:57 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Three thumbs up for the Silver 2 shifters as bar-end shifters. If you are
> hesitant to run them as bar end shifters, they are very adaptable. The
> right side/rear shifter does loosen a bit on rides, but the shape is fine.
> If ya'll are accustomed to friction shifting, piece 'o cake. Just a few
> millimeters stroke and the next gear is in place. Looking back at the cogs
> is not required.
>
> Mike SLO CA
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 6:03:59 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> any interest in keeping the pods and selling the shifters?
>>
>> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 4:08:35 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Rivendell Silver 2 bar end shifters mounted on Shimano Bar End Pods. 2
>>> minutes with a Dremel tool on the pods and spacers and a second metal
>>> washer and everything fits and lines up just fine. Mounted and tested, but
>>> everything is otherwise new. $115 shipped CONUS or best offer.
>>>
>>> [image: lineups.jpg][image: XO bar endss.jpg]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

Sheldon Brown had a fun webpage describing his beater winter bike somewhere
in northern New England; IIRC it was a cheap mountain bike converted to
fixed or ss with the absolutely most throwaway parts rideable; he'd park it
outside all winter and just dump a bit of cheap motor oil on the moving
bits every so often to keep it running. Then he'd replace the drivetrain
and cables each year.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 1:34 PM Mackenzy Albright <
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> ... 2. SALT. Previously living in Alberta, they put some sort of demonic
> liquid ice melt on the paths. I used the 45north Kavas on my winter bike
> and they were great in all conditions and especially on ice and hardpack
> snow. The ice melt would melt through snow and ice making some sort of
> corrosive slurry that felt like riding on wet sand at a beach. The ice
> slurry ate through an imperfect powder-coat on my SSFGmtb "winter bike". By
> spring it was bubbling and flaking terribly and lead to a lot of rust that
> I have yet to deal with since moving other than a good scrub and light
> oiling. It's fine as "beausage" on my Marino winter bike - but would have
> been pretty choked if it were a Riv or Crust 4x the cost and meant as a
> "lifer".  If they just left the packed snow it'd been fine and i'd ride any
> bike in the snow with studded tir
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Re: [RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

2022-11-12 Thread Dustin

Great thread.  It's good to know I'm not alone.  My saving grace is that I 
got my Joe A used from a twowheeledtexan in this group.  A bike in great, 
but not perfect, shape is so much easier for me to enjoy instead of 
preserve.  

Side note: Wow, Mack!  That's inspiring.  A dedicated Riv for a dedicated 
rider.  Even more so since I have the same color Joe.  I'll never look at 
my mid-atlantic "winter" commute the same way.  

D

On Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 1:55:07 PM UTC-5 Jim Whorton wrote:

> Mack, I like that setup on your Joe a lot.  Cool!  Are those 2-inchers 
> studded?  
>
> I use studded tires in winter (Continental Spike Claw 26 x 2.1") that I 
> got cheap through Craigslist.  I have thought of getting a set of studded 
> tires for my Clem, but would need 700c and haven't begun to sort that out.  
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 1:39 PM Mack Penner  wrote:
>
>> Grant's blahg was a bit of a kick in the pants for me. Here is a photo of 
>> my just-winterized Joe in a snowbank on my commute this morning. This 
>> commute would have previously been earmarked for my "beater," which I've 
>> decided to give to my brother, so he can squirm through the snow on 30mm 
>> studded tires while I plow (and sometimes squirm), on 2-inchers. 
>> Coping in -20 degrees on the prairies,
>> Mack 
>>
>> On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:35:19 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Your two examples, Pam and Ana, are by no coincidence also my two 
>>> biggest role models when it comes to using the heck out of one's beautiful 
>>> bike. I try to channel them all the time, and in fact, I recently sold the 
>>> Charlie because I was finally able to fully accept that its existence in my 
>>> quiver was to be a "lockable" alternative to the Hillborne - and I should 
>>> just ride the Hillborne [but be smart about it]. The Hillborne is closing 
>>> on 8000km and the Bombadil nearing 5000km which is nothing compared to 
>>> Pam's numbers, but I'm proud of the mileage nonetheless - and optimistic 
>>> that this is just the beginning.  
>>>
>>> I spent a somewhat embarassing amount of money on the Bombadil's 
>>> repaint, but generally haven't been too fussed about the scratches I've put 
>>> into that paint - with one exception: it fell over once and the Paul brake 
>>> lever put a sizeable gouge in the top tube's paint.  It looks horrible 
>>> because it doesn't look like a scratch from riding, it looks like a scratch 
>>> from poor care. So if you ever wonder why I put a "BIKE" sticker in such an 
>>> odd spot on my bike... it's to cover that scratch (photo from today's cold 
>>> and wet ride) 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 6 November 2022 at 18:04:25 UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Since this is the my first time owning a Rivendell bicycle; a Clem Jr. 
 "L", I have grown to appreciate it more and more when I ride it. Purchased 
 it mid-September of this year. I am relieved and happy at the same time to 
 be able love this bike, after years from retiring my road bike (2012); a 
 1973 Cilo Sprint-X turned into a sports touring bike with drop bars. It 
 fit 
 me well. However, I became older and grew tried of riding in the drops. I 
 struggled with my Raleigh Elkhorn in a lot of modifications that led to 
 not 
 riding the bike very much in the long run. 

 Generally, the material possessions that I own, I take good care of and 
 not see them neglected. Knowing that my Clem Jr. "L" is not your everyday 
 production bike and not that easy to replace, I plan on not locking it up 
 and not letting out of my sight. My Cilo I never locked her up nor out of 
 my sight. I do have a garage for my bikes. Yes, I would be very sad to 
 have 
 my Clem Jr. "L" stolen. I do not have a back up  bike for it at his time. 

 I know over time, there will be nicks, scuffs, scratches and deep cuts 
 into the paint and frame. To me, that is a reflection a well loved 
 bicycle, 
 just like the Velveteen Rabbit children's book story. Isn't it ?

 It as been quite a journey owning fourteen bikes before my Clem Jr. "L" 
 in my life. I am glad that I made this purchase and crossed over a bridge 
 to finding comfort and feeling the joys of cycling once again in my 
 retirement years.  I long to ride off road, again soon. It handles very 
 confident and true over the terrain. It just wants to keep on rolling.

 I need to buy some Honjo fenders for it. 

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA. 

 On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 2:33:03 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:

> Great thread.  I would love to ride my Riv every day but I have the 
> following problem: I live in Rochester, NY and during the winter that 
> means 
> riding in a salty gray slush.  So I have what I used to think of as a 
> "beater," a Rivified 80s mountain bike (Peugeot US Express) that I

[RBW] Any list members have experience or thoughts on the Shimano C201 Rapid rise RD?

2022-11-12 Thread C Lin

I see quite a few of them on Ebay and am thinking about putting one on my 
new Platypus.

Carlos in San Diego

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[RBW] Can I use my RB-1 parts on a new Riv?

2022-11-12 Thread 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch

Hi all, first post, warm greetings.

I have a super nice RB-1 which is too racy for my desires.  I have long 
been looking at a new Rivendell Hillborne or Appaloosa.  I would love to 
use my RB-1 parts on it if they will fit.  No worries about over gearing as 
I am in Florida.

Shimano 600 derailleur, Sugino DGX crank 40/52, Shimano 13/25 cassette, and 
Shimano RX-100 hubs,  Ritchey stem, Wolber 700c 32H wheels.  I have an 
Albatross bar, Dia Compe MTB levers and a Brooks B-17 that will transfer 
over.  

Will the rest of it fit?

I could turn the RB-1 into a fixed gear rig just for occasional 
punishment. I'm not inclined to sell it.

Thanks!


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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

I'm happy with good powdercoats on my Rivendells and customs -- the
most-loved gofast has a lovely Ford blue powdercoat. In fact, some
powdercoats have been so good that they're better than most paint jobs I've
seen, but of course the principal value is lower cost with adequate
protection if done right. I prefer to put my $$ into frame (for fit and
feel) and parts (for performance, durability, but yes, also bike vanity).

On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 7:20 AM Brian McDermott <
brianmarkmcderm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Like Jason, I paid a somewhat embarrassing amount for a repaint on my
> Hillborne, but I'm not overly-finicky about it

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Re: [RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

I slot in just behind Ted. I fell in love with a 1992 XO-1 that an
Albuquerque bike shop was discounting to get rid of it; I'd been riding
road-ified or allrounder-ified mountain bikes but wanted something that
handled more like the 1989 Falcon I'd sold but with 26" wheels. The XO-1
got close, but in 1994 I ordered a custom Riv Road but one based on the
XOs: compact, 26" wheels, road tires, tighter angles, road tubing. I loved
it, and told Grant I was going to proclaim the 54" c-c frame (my "normal"
fistful size is 60 c-c), and he said, "Don't you dare."

I got serious about fixed gear riding in 1996 and ordered a 26" customer
riv road fixie gofast in 1999; you've heard enough about it. Then in 2003 I
ordered a derailleur clone and built it up as a 26" wheel 1X10 gofast road
bike (46 X 11-23 and 12-25 Am Classic cassettes) shifted with Simplex
retrofriction dt shifters. But I turned it into a fixed gear commuter with
Dave Porter Campy dropouts and Chauncey Matthews racks, and after it was
replaced in 2020 with the Matthews clone I traded frame, fork, fenders, and
custom racks to a listmember for the later much modified 2012 Monocog.

In the meanwhile I had a 2010 Sam, nice, but sold because for me it was
neither flesh nor fowl, neither nimble road bike nor capable of our sandy
soil; and I carried groceries on a racing bike (which handled the rear
loads better anyway). About 2013 I got a second hand, second gen (blue) Ram
and built it up several ways, including the first indexing since 1993 --
Dura Ace 7 speed, later swapped for better-shifting mix 'n' match friction
9 speed. That too got sold as not quite flesh nor fowl -- not as nimble as
I liked, not dirt capable, didn't need a grocery carrier.

I remember the very first luggage products; very home-made looking, though
well made. Quite a shot put distance to today's Luis Vuitton-quality
luggage. I think I've owned at least 1 from each generation, starting with
the high quality Nelson Longflap that Riv brought into the US -- did anyone
else sell those here in 1995? Adam and Hoss, first-gen Sackville M and L,
now later gen Sackville M.

Would love to try a Clem or similar if only they accommodated 622 X 76 mm
tires; sand.

On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 7:52 AM Ted Durant  wrote:

> I'm not sure how I missed this thread! The Bridgestone XO-1 is where it
> began for me, and I happily teamed up with Grant to help Rivendell get
> started and then Rona Components, Willow, and Heron. I've had a Rivendell
> ATB (Waterford, early on), Riv Road (Joe built), a few Herons, a Quickbeam,
> a Bleriot, and a Cheviot. And my wife has a Glorius. I definitely associate
> more with the earlier designs, and the original prototype Heron Road  and
> Riv Road are still here. I've evolved more along the lines of Jan Heine,
> preferring classic road bike designs and riding position, with big tires. I
> never warmed up to the Cheviot though I tried a slew of handlebars. I sold
> the ATB and the Bleriot here a couple of years ago. The type of riding I do
> is largely dictated by where I live, with lots of dairyland roads that are
> mostly well paved. I don't have mountains or many gravel roads within 100
> miles. There are some mountain bike trails in the vicinity, but I'm not
> willing to drive an hour each way to go for a bike ride - I'd rather spend
> those 2 hours riding!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI US
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Video: Vintage lugged steel mixte restoration

2022-11-12 Thread Elizabeth McInerney

Thanks for the video. The bike is absolutely gorgeous!

On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 8:10:00 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Last fall my partner inherited an old bike. It's an SR frame that her dad 
> purchased for her mom brand new in San Diego in 1987. It was over-geared, 
> set up with narrow tires on 27" wheels and needed a few more changes to 
> make it more comfortable and practical. I set out for nice wide gearing, 
> bars with more sweep back and maxing out the clearance for plump 38mm 
> tires. 
>
> The build video is up here , detailing all 
> of the changes along the way. 
>
> Cheers!
>
> [image: SR1.jpg]
>
> [image: SR5.jpg]
>
> [image: SR7.jpg]
>

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[RBW] News flash...31.8 Nitto Fillet FacePlaters back in stock at Rivendell

2022-11-12 Thread 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch

Get ya some...

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[RBW] FS: 59cm Susie Longbolts

2022-11-12 Thread Maxwell Seebeck

Hey folks! Unfortunately I will be parting ways with my beloved Susie.
I currently do not ride her as much as I should plus the N+1 factor is in
full effect and our herd has grown to large for our current situation
(apartment living)

I bought it brand new from Mack's Bike and Goods in June of this year and
did some light touring with it through out the summer. Less than 1000 miles

Shortly after the initial purchase I rebuilt the Cliffhangers with a Son
widebody and a White M15 hubs respectively.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/jtGL9B3ok58vEUeHA

*saddle not included*

Build list:
Susie Longbolts 59cm
Velocity Cliffhangers non MSW 32h (SON Widebody/M15)
SON Edelux II Black (not pictured but brand new)
Teravail Honcho(2.4)/Eh-Line(2.3) (I have LOTS of tires available)

Silver 32/22 172mm cranks
Advent 9sp 11-42
Advent Skeleton Key FD w/ Microshift thumby
IRD JIM stem 25.4 80mm
Nitto Losco Bars
Paul Love Levers 2.5 FInger
Paul Moto Lite OR Deore V brakes

In all transparency I am around 4,700 into this build and certainly not
asking for that.
I am sitting somewhere around 4,000 for the full build with all of the Paul
(pictured I have a deore on the front and will obviously swap to which ever
set you preferer)

But shoot me an offer! I am motivated to get her to a new home!

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[RBW] WTB: 54cm Losco Handlebar

2022-11-12 Thread JohnS

Hello All,

I'm in the market for a used 54cm Losco handlebar. My plan is to move my 
Soma Oxfords to my wife's Shogun mixte and the Losco would be for my '82 
Stumpjumper. 

Thanks so much,
JohnS

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[RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

The Platy is probably the more logical choice for what you describe but 
either will be great and I think you want a Gus. Find one, buy it! 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 5:55:02 AM UTC-8 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
> other always came up. 
>
> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>
> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>
> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>
> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as 
> the Platypus?  
>
> Thanks for the help! 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jacob
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

2022-11-12 Thread Matt Beecher

IMO, the peak of my interest remains with the Atlantis and Saluki, though I 
would like to try one of the Toyo Homers of the 700c variety and maybe a 
Wilbury.  The move to being upright does not interest me, yet, and I have 
not seen anything that interests me in a new frameset.  I imagine one day I 
might be looking for an upright bike, but I wonder what the options will be 
at that time.

I do like some of the clothing options they offer, namely the wool, but 
none of it fits me, with my long arms/torso.  I'm a big fan of the sweaters 
from a few years ago though, because the sleeves appear designed to roll 
up, but would love to see more items with long arms for riders wanting to 
keep their wrists warm on cold rides.  I'd love to see a heavier equivalent 
to the Surly wool jersey, with the extra long sleeves and thumb holes.  

Best regards,
Matt in Oswego

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 10:35:52 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Nov 12, 2022, at 9:41 AM, Eric Peterson  wrote:
> > 
> > Saw a comment from Ted Durant, recall we rode a 200k brevet together on 
> our RIvs back in 2016.
>
> Pictures prove it happened. Alas, I was on my Terraferma, not my Riv. But 
> I was wearing my Riv hat. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Mack Penner

Hi Jacob,
Based on the kind of riding you describe, I'd lean Platy. I have had mine 
set up mainly with the Juan Martin's (100mm stem), which are great on 
trails for the control I get from the width, and also good on roads because 
of the hand position at the bend. I have never felt too upright on them. I 
also have a long torso (6'7"). I have mostly run 2.2 inch mtb tires, but 
with tires in the mid-40s it feels plenty quick. Your RH tires would be 
great on a platy, imo. 
If you like the stiffness you get from the Bridge Club, though, watch out. 
I call the plat my dual suspension bike! Lots of flex (I'm 210 pounds). I 
think Will has described it's ride as kinda feeling like surfing, which is 
true to my experience although, come to think of it, I've never surfed. 
Mack 


On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:39:19 AM UTC-7 jacob...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> That’s a valid point. I hate valid points. The head says Platy and the 
> heart says Gus. 
>
> I run the 700x55 Rene Herse on the BC most of the time. My alternative 
> wheelset is 27.5x2.8. Sometimes it feels like the 55’s are too plush? That 
> probably sounds crazy but I’ve never cared for them. Too expensive to not 
> use though. 
>
> I wonder what the wheelbase is on an XL Gus? The Ibis is a long bike. 
>
> I like fenders but never seem to use them. I’ve got a 1Up rack and the 
> arms clamp on the tire. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 12, 2022, at 1:10 PM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Another factor of Gus to consider: tire size. You say you would be riding 
> the largest frame size in either, but would want tires suited more for 
> paved riding. The Gus is such a huge bike ( I feel like my Medium 54cm is 
> massive), and the XL sizes just furthers their massiveness. No slight to 
> anyone running an XL Gus, but I think even with 2.5 - 2.8 tires, they look 
> small and disproportional on the XL size because everything is so spread 
> out. Maybe fitted with some fenders to take up some of the room it could 
> look better, but I just find it a bit odd-looking and I would say the same 
> for all the long wheelbase Riv models and skinny(er) tires. All that extra 
> space just begs for fat rubber, IMO. I know it probably comes across as 
> superficial and picky, but I'm a stickler for function and the form of 
> proportion when it comes to bikes.
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 12:36 PM Jacob Byard  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the replies. It has given me some new things to consider. 
>>
>> @Mark C- I'm tall enough to ride the largest frame in either the Platy or 
>> Gus. Then reach comes into play. Right now I'm using a 120mm stem on a 
>> large Surly Bridge Club and could probably stand a 130mm or even a 140mm. 
>> I've also got an Ibis hardtail in an XL size. With the sloping top tube I 
>> clear the stand over and I'm able to use a short 60mm stem for a very 
>> comfortable reach. The high bottom bracket doesn't bother me and in my 
>> local area it's a plus. All the trails here are very rocky so the extra 
>> height is welcomed. The Ibis would be the bike normally ride on those 
>> trails but at times I do pick the wrong bike. 
>>
>> @Brian- I've used Billie bars on my Long Haul Trucker and found them 
>> comfortable but they made me so upright that I never got out of the wind 
>> and it felt like my pedaling changed to a less efficient position. I had 
>> Doom Bars make me a copy of the Uncle Ron's Ortho bars and put them on my 
>> Crust Lighting Bolt and ran into the same problem. True those bikes are not 
>> designed around a hugely sweptback bar so the Gus/ Platy would be better 
>> suited. I like the width and angle of the Jones bar or even the Crust Juan 
>> Martin bar. Those are probably my first choice. I don't think I'd be as 
>> upright with either. 
>>
>> I can't imagine any bike being more overbuilt than my Bridge Club. I've 
>> loaded that thing down with full racks/ panniers with zero flex. I'm heavy 
>> and have never managed to get disc rub. Have to say it's a well built bike. 
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:40:57 AM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:
>>
>>> The Platypus sounds perfect for you. I got the Rosco Platypus with the 
>>> same geometry and am amazed at how versatile it is. It is turning into my 
>>> favorite mountain bike, and for everything else too. Yes, the "top tube" is 
>>> shorter than the Gus, but far longer than most bikes. I was surprised that 
>>> I needed about a 110 stem extension, but that is with Bosco bars; you 
>>> should be able to use about anything on a Platypus with the right stem, at 
>>> least if you don't buy too small a size. 
>>>
>>> The other big thing is bottom bracket height (drop). You don't need the 
>>> higher bottom bracket, and I certainly prefer the lower one. If you do 
>>> still want the longer reach and longer wheelbase, it would be worth 
>>> conidering the Clem too.
>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 10:00:30 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This will be interesting to

Re: [RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

That’s a valid point. I hate valid points. The head says Platy and the heart says Gus. I run the 700x55 Rene Herse on the BC most of the time. My alternative wheelset is 27.5x2.8. Sometimes it feels like the 55’s are too plush? That probably sounds crazy but I’ve never cared for them. Too expensive to not use though. I wonder what the wheelbase is on an XL Gus? The Ibis is a long bike. I like fenders but never seem to use them. I’ve got a 1Up rack and the arms clamp on the tire. Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 12, 2022, at 1:10 PM, Brian Turner wrote:Another factor of Gus to consider: tire size. You say you would be riding the largest frame size in either, but would want tires suited more for paved riding. The Gus is such a huge bike ( I feel like my Medium 54cm is massive), and the XL sizes just furthers their massiveness. No slight to anyone running an XL Gus, but I think even with 2.5 - 2.8 tires, they look small and disproportional on the XL size because everything is so spread out. Maybe fitted with some fenders to take up some of the room it could look better, but I just find it a bit odd-looking and I would say the same for all the long wheelbase Riv models and skinny(er) tires. All that extra space just begs for fat rubber, IMO. I know it probably comes across as superficial and picky, but I'm a stickler for function and the form of proportion when it comes to bikes.On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 12:36 PM Jacob Byard wrote:Thanks for all the replies. It has given me some new things to consider. @Mark C- I'm tall enough to ride the largest frame in either the Platy or Gus. Then reach comes into play. Right now I'm using a 120mm stem on a large Surly Bridge Club and could probably stand a 130mm or even a 140mm. I've also got an Ibis hardtail in an XL size. With the sloping top tube I clear the stand over and I'm able to use a short 60mm stem for a very comfortable reach. The high bottom bracket doesn't bother me and in my local area it's a plus. All the trails here are very rocky so the extra height is welcomed. The Ibis would be the bike normally ride on those trails but at times I do pick the wrong bike. @Brian- I've used Billie bars on my Long Haul Trucker and found them comfortable but they made me so upright that I never got out of the wind and it felt like my pedaling changed to a less efficient position. I had Doom Bars make me a copy of the Uncle Ron's Ortho bars and put them on my Crust Lighting Bolt and ran into the same problem. True those bikes are not designed around a hugely sweptback bar so the Gus/ Platy would be better suited. I like the width and angle of the Jones bar or even the Crust Juan Martin bar. Those are probably my first choice. I don't think I'd be as upright with either. I can't imagine any bike being more overbuilt than my Bridge Club. I've loaded that thing down with full racks/ panniers with zero flex. I'm heavy and have never managed to get disc rub. Have to say it's a well built bike. On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:40:57 AM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:The Platypus sounds perfect for you. I got the Rosco Platypus with the same geometry and am amazed at how versatile it is. It is turning into my favorite mountain bike, and for everything else too. Yes, the "top tube" is shorter than the Gus, but far longer than most bikes. I was surprised that I needed about a 110 stem extension, but that is with Bosco bars; you should be able to use about anything on a Platypus with the right stem, at least if you don't buy too small a size. The other big thing is bottom bracket height (drop). You don't need the higher bottom bracket, and I certainly prefer the lower one. If you do still want the longer reach and longer wheelbase, it would be worth conidering the Clem too.On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 10:00:30 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:This will be interesting to watch. I’ve not ridden either but; Platy is prettier (lugs), a true step through (bonus!), maybe a bit lighter, in stock, less $$ & on paper more “roadish”. But, extra long wheelbase of Gus/Suzie might give an even smoother ride, along with bigger rubber. I assume the bottom bracket is lower on the Platy - again more roadish. Can’t go wrong…Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 12, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Jacob Byard wrote:I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or other always came up. The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. My torso and arms are long so reach

Re: [RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Brian Turner

Another factor of Gus to consider: tire size. You say you would be riding
the largest frame size in either, but would want tires suited more for
paved riding. The Gus is such a huge bike ( I feel like my Medium 54cm is
massive), and the XL sizes just furthers their massiveness. No slight to
anyone running an XL Gus, but I think even with 2.5 - 2.8 tires, they look
small and disproportional on the XL size because everything is so spread
out. Maybe fitted with some fenders to take up some of the room it could
look better, but I just find it a bit odd-looking and I would say the same
for all the long wheelbase Riv models and skinny(er) tires. All that extra
space just begs for fat rubber, IMO. I know it probably comes across as
superficial and picky, but I'm a stickler for function and the form of
proportion when it comes to bikes.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 12:36 PM Jacob Byard  wrote:

> Thanks for all the replies. It has given me some new things to consider.
>
> @Mark C- I'm tall enough to ride the largest frame in either the Platy or
> Gus. Then reach comes into play. Right now I'm using a 120mm stem on a
> large Surly Bridge Club and could probably stand a 130mm or even a 140mm.
> I've also got an Ibis hardtail in an XL size. With the sloping top tube I
> clear the stand over and I'm able to use a short 60mm stem for a very
> comfortable reach. The high bottom bracket doesn't bother me and in my
> local area it's a plus. All the trails here are very rocky so the extra
> height is welcomed. The Ibis would be the bike normally ride on those
> trails but at times I do pick the wrong bike.
>
> @Brian- I've used Billie bars on my Long Haul Trucker and found them
> comfortable but they made me so upright that I never got out of the wind
> and it felt like my pedaling changed to a less efficient position. I had
> Doom Bars make me a copy of the Uncle Ron's Ortho bars and put them on my
> Crust Lighting Bolt and ran into the same problem. True those bikes are not
> designed around a hugely sweptback bar so the Gus/ Platy would be better
> suited. I like the width and angle of the Jones bar or even the Crust Juan
> Martin bar. Those are probably my first choice. I don't think I'd be as
> upright with either.
>
> I can't imagine any bike being more overbuilt than my Bridge Club. I've
> loaded that thing down with full racks/ panniers with zero flex. I'm heavy
> and have never managed to get disc rub. Have to say it's a well built bike.
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:40:57 AM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:
>
>> The Platypus sounds perfect for you. I got the Rosco Platypus with the
>> same geometry and am amazed at how versatile it is. It is turning into my
>> favorite mountain bike, and for everything else too. Yes, the "top tube" is
>> shorter than the Gus, but far longer than most bikes. I was surprised that
>> I needed about a 110 stem extension, but that is with Bosco bars; you
>> should be able to use about anything on a Platypus with the right stem, at
>> least if you don't buy too small a size.
>>
>> The other big thing is bottom bracket height (drop). You don't need the
>> higher bottom bracket, and I certainly prefer the lower one. If you do
>> still want the longer reach and longer wheelbase, it would be worth
>> conidering the Clem too.
>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 10:00:30 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This will be interesting to watch. I’ve not ridden either but; Platy is
>>> prettier (lugs), a true step through (bonus!), maybe a bit lighter, in
>>> stock, less $$ & on paper more “roadish”. But, extra long wheelbase of
>>> Gus/Suzie might give an even smoother ride, along with bigger rubber. I
>>> assume the bottom bracket is lower on the Platy - again more roadish. Can’t
>>> go wrong…
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Jacob Byard  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a
>>> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or
>>> other always came up.
>>>
>>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved
>>> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff
>>> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike
>>> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride.
>>>
>>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town
>>> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding
>>> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry.
>>>
>>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the
>>> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a
>>> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last
>>> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful).
>>>
>>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road
>>> as the Platypus?
>>>
>>>

Re: [RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

Thanks for all the replies. It has given me some new things to consider. 

@Mark C- I'm tall enough to ride the largest frame in either the Platy or 
Gus. Then reach comes into play. Right now I'm using a 120mm stem on a 
large Surly Bridge Club and could probably stand a 130mm or even a 140mm. 
I've also got an Ibis hardtail in an XL size. With the sloping top tube I 
clear the stand over and I'm able to use a short 60mm stem for a very 
comfortable reach. The high bottom bracket doesn't bother me and in my 
local area it's a plus. All the trails here are very rocky so the extra 
height is welcomed. The Ibis would be the bike normally ride on those 
trails but at times I do pick the wrong bike. 

@Brian- I've used Billie bars on my Long Haul Trucker and found them 
comfortable but they made me so upright that I never got out of the wind 
and it felt like my pedaling changed to a less efficient position. I had 
Doom Bars make me a copy of the Uncle Ron's Ortho bars and put them on my 
Crust Lighting Bolt and ran into the same problem. True those bikes are not 
designed around a hugely sweptback bar so the Gus/ Platy would be better 
suited. I like the width and angle of the Jones bar or even the Crust Juan 
Martin bar. Those are probably my first choice. I don't think I'd be as 
upright with either. 

I can't imagine any bike being more overbuilt than my Bridge Club. I've 
loaded that thing down with full racks/ panniers with zero flex. I'm heavy 
and have never managed to get disc rub. Have to say it's a well built bike. 
On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 11:40:57 AM UTC-5 Mark C wrote:

> The Platypus sounds perfect for you. I got the Rosco Platypus with the 
> same geometry and am amazed at how versatile it is. It is turning into my 
> favorite mountain bike, and for everything else too. Yes, the "top tube" is 
> shorter than the Gus, but far longer than most bikes. I was surprised that 
> I needed about a 110 stem extension, but that is with Bosco bars; you 
> should be able to use about anything on a Platypus with the right stem, at 
> least if you don't buy too small a size. 
>
> The other big thing is bottom bracket height (drop). You don't need the 
> higher bottom bracket, and I certainly prefer the lower one. If you do 
> still want the longer reach and longer wheelbase, it would be worth 
> conidering the Clem too.
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 10:00:30 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> This will be interesting to watch. I’ve not ridden either but; Platy is 
>> prettier (lugs), a true step through (bonus!), maybe a bit lighter, in 
>> stock, less $$ & on paper more “roadish”. But, extra long wheelbase of 
>> Gus/Suzie might give an even smoother ride, along with bigger rubber. I 
>> assume the bottom bracket is lower on the Platy - again more roadish. Can’t 
>> go wrong…
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Jacob Byard  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
>> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
>> other always came up. 
>>
>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
>> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
>> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
>> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>>
>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
>> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
>> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>>
>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
>> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
>> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
>> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>>
>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road 
>> as the Platypus?  
>>
>> Thanks for the help! 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jacob
>>
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Re: [RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Mark C

The Platypus sounds perfect for you. I got the Rosco Platypus with the same 
geometry and am amazed at how versatile it is. It is turning into my 
favorite mountain bike, and for everything else too. Yes, the "top tube" is 
shorter than the Gus, but far longer than most bikes. I was surprised that 
I needed about a 110 stem extension, but that is with Bosco bars; you 
should be able to use about anything on a Platypus with the right stem, at 
least if you don't buy too small a size. 

The other big thing is bottom bracket height (drop). You don't need the 
higher bottom bracket, and I certainly prefer the lower one. If you do 
still want the longer reach and longer wheelbase, it would be worth 
conidering the Clem too.
On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 10:00:30 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> This will be interesting to watch. I’ve not ridden either but; Platy is 
> prettier (lugs), a true step through (bonus!), maybe a bit lighter, in 
> stock, less $$ & on paper more “roadish”. But, extra long wheelbase of 
> Gus/Suzie might give an even smoother ride, along with bigger rubber. I 
> assume the bottom bracket is lower on the Platy - again more roadish. Can’t 
> go wrong…
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Jacob Byard  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
> other always came up. 
>
> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>
> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>
> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>
> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as 
> the Platypus?  
>
> Thanks for the help! 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jacob
>
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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

2022-11-12 Thread Piaw Na

Hi Ted, like you, I started riding Bridgestone with the 1993 RB-1. At one 
point Eric House (who was sponsored by Grant) was riding "sunrise 
centuries" to get ready for his RAAM attempt, so I joined him on a few 
rides. At one point I got invited to a ride on Grant Petersen's commute to 
Bridgestone from the Oakland hills. Grant showed up on his fixed gear and 
mentioned something about not being able to coast and shift, but he still 
proceeded to outride all of us. I got into bicycle touring 
(https://blog.piaw.net/2022/07/consolidated-cycle-touring-page.html) and 
bought a Rivendell Custom touring bike, but that bike didn't work out. It 
rode beautifully without a load but with both front and rear loads it would 
shimmy and no mechanic could fix it. I gave up and sold it to a friend.

Then I bought a Heron touring bike. This bike served me well for many 
tours, until I started riding in the alps. There, I discovered that 
cantilever (shimano XT, paul's neo retros) would judder and shudder under 
aggressive braking. I realized that I should have bought a Heron road 
instead. I switched away and ordered a custom titanium touring bike, which 
served me well on all my tours, commutes, and abuse. OK, the riding was 
great, but I've broken 2 frames. The builder was apologetic both times and 
stood by his work, building me a new frame each time. When the second frame 
broke though, I visited Grant and decided to return to the Rivendell fold.

I agonized a bit about either a A Homer Hilsen or a Roadini, but the fact 
that all my wheels carried over from previous bikes were 130mm spacing 
tipped me towards the Roadini, especially now that they clear 42mm tires. 
I'm quite happy with my Roadini at this point, though I think I would still 
like a lower BB, and maybe a slightly shorter chainstay to make it easier 
to pack for a tour.

On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 6:52:34 AM UTC-8 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 6:55:34 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
>> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
>>
>
> I'm not sure how I missed this thread! The Bridgestone XO-1 is where it 
> began for me, and I happily teamed up with Grant to help Rivendell get 
> started and then Rona Components, Willow, and Heron. I've had a Rivendell 
> ATB (Waterford, early on), Riv Road (Joe built), a few Herons, a Quickbeam, 
> a Bleriot, and a Cheviot. And my wife has a Glorius. I definitely associate 
> more with the earlier designs, and the original prototype Heron Road  and 
> Riv Road are still here. I've evolved more along the lines of Jan Heine, 
> preferring classic road bike designs and riding position, with big tires. I 
> never warmed up to the Cheviot though I tried a slew of handlebars. I sold 
> the ATB and the Bleriot here a couple of years ago. The type of riding I do 
> is largely dictated by where I live, with lots of dairyland roads that are 
> mostly well paved. I don't have mountains or many gravel roads within 100 
> miles. There are some mountain bike trails in the vicinity, but I'm not 
> willing to drive an hour each way to go for a bike ride - I'd rather spend 
> those 2 hours riding!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>

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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

2022-11-12 Thread Eric Peterson

Saw a comment from Ted Durant, recall we rode a 200k brevet together on our 
RIvs back in 2016.
I'm definitely a "Golden Ager"
I started with an RB-1 bought when Bridgestone called it quits, then 
another RB-1 and an RB-T - yes at one time had three RB bikes. I gave the 
RB-T to my brother for his 40th birthday (he subsequently loaned it to his 
daughter in Chicago where it got stolen). The two RB-1s I gave to my son 
and his husband in Boston and they are still in active use there.

But this is about Rivs I almost forgot. 
I started with a blue Rambouillet, then an orange Rambouillet which I keep 
in Seattle for when I visit and ride out there.
After a crash damaged the blue bike, I opted for a Roadeo which I still 
ride on brevets today.
I really like the classic "fast" road bike feel of all these bikes. 

Eric

On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 8:52:34 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 6:55:34 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
>> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
>>
>
> I'm not sure how I missed this thread! The Bridgestone XO-1 is where it 
> began for me, and I happily teamed up with Grant to help Rivendell get 
> started and then Rona Components, Willow, and Heron. I've had a Rivendell 
> ATB (Waterford, early on), Riv Road (Joe built), a few Herons, a Quickbeam, 
> a Bleriot, and a Cheviot. And my wife has a Glorius. I definitely associate 
> more with the earlier designs, and the original prototype Heron Road  and 
> Riv Road are still here. I've evolved more along the lines of Jan Heine, 
> preferring classic road bike designs and riding position, with big tires. I 
> never warmed up to the Cheviot though I tried a slew of handlebars. I sold 
> the ATB and the Bleriot here a couple of years ago. The type of riding I do 
> is largely dictated by where I live, with lots of dairyland roads that are 
> mostly well paved. I don't have mountains or many gravel roads within 100 
> miles. There are some mountain bike trails in the vicinity, but I'm not 
> willing to drive an hour each way to go for a bike ride - I'd rather spend 
> those 2 hours riding!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Sam Hillborne $1250

2022-11-12 Thread Chris Halasz

Price reduced to $1250. 

Thanks all, 

Chris 

On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 5:54:53 PM UTC-8 Chris Halasz wrote:

> My Sam for sale: 
>
> https://santabarbara.craigslist.org/bik/7538130038.html
>
> Price listed does not include my very nice Brooks saddle, but willing to 
> discuss, as stated in the Craigslist ad. 
>
> Sale funds a winter project for a dedicated off-road bike. 
>
> Prefer a local sale, happy to meet part way, and can bring the bike 
> through L.A. to San Diego this weekend. 
>
> [image: IMG_4904.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4910.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4907.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4911.jpg]
>
> More photos on request! 
>
> Please remember to reply offline! 
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Chris
> Santa Barbara, CA
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Re: [RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Richard Rose

This will be interesting to watch. I’ve not ridden either but; Platy is 
prettier (lugs), a true step through (bonus!), maybe a bit lighter, in stock, 
less $$ & on paper more “roadish”. But, extra long wheelbase of Gus/Suzie might 
give an even smoother ride, along with bigger rubber. I assume the bottom 
bracket is lower on the Platy - again more roadish. Can’t go wrong…

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Jacob Byard  wrote:
> 
> 
> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a Platypus. 
> The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or other always 
> came up. 
> 
> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
> 
> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town rides 
> to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding usually 
> sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
> 
> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the Gus 
> has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a fan 
> of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last year so 
> I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
> 
> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as 
> the Platypus?  
> 
> Thanks for the help! 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jacob
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[RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

It's for sure overkill. I've got a Surly Bridge Club so it's kind of a 
Clem. The Susie is probably a little too light weight for me. Technically I 
would be in the limits but with a load I'd be over. I've also got a ton of 
1-1/8" stems so I'd save some money and be able to quickly dial in my fit. 

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 9:10:11 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The Gus seems a little bit overbuilt for the type of riding you describe. 
> For what you described I would go with the slightly lighter built Susie or 
> a Clem.
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:55:02 AM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
>> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
>> other always came up. 
>>
>> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
>> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
>> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
>> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>>
>> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
>> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
>> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>>
>> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
>> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
>> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
>> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>>
>> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road 
>> as the Platypus?  
>>
>> Thanks for the help! 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jacob
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Brian Turner

Gus owner here. For the type of riding you’re describing, I would think a Platy would be the better choice. Gus is overbuilt and suited for fat, chunkier tires to handle rougher terrain. You mentioned not liking the super upright position, and the Gus (with swept back bars) IS super upright. That said, a Platypus will also be a very upright riding position, so keep that in mind.- Brian On Nov 12, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Johnny Alien wrote:The Gus seems a little bit overbuilt for the type of riding you describe. For what you described I would go with the slightly lighter built Susie or a Clem.On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:55:02 AM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or other always came up. The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as the Platypus? Thanks for the help! Cheers,Jacob

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell MUSA pants, Riv wool cap, leather gloves

One pair of pants remains, thanks. 

On Friday, November 11, 2022 at 4:31:31 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Gloves have sold. Open to an offer on the pants. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 4:35:00 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Hi all — Some stuff for sale. Prices are net to me, PayPal Friends and/or 
>> Family and Venmo work. Shipping to you not included. 
>>
>> Pictures are here. 
>> 
>>  
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> *Rivendell MUSA pants — $60 each*
>> Size medium in the old butternut color. Green pockets and gusset. Velcro 
>> closures at ankles. Belts have been removed, plenty of elastic in waists. 
>> Both rear buttons present on both pairs of pants. I have two pairs for 
>> sale, price is per pair. The faintest grease marks at the drive side ankles 
>> which I tried to show. 
>>
>> *Rivendell wool cap by Randi Jo — Trade for Randi Jo wool cap*
>> This is a Rivendell size "medium" which is a Randi Jo size large (I have 
>> this on good intel from Eric at Randi Jo Fab). Some discoloration to white 
>> trim band inside from wear. Overall in good shape but definitely worn in. 
>>
>> I'd like to trade this for a plain Randi Jo wool cap 
>> 
>>  
>> in dark or medium gray, size large. If that doesn't work out, then I'll 
>> sell it.  
>>
>> *Kinco 901 leather gloves — $25*
>> Pigskin leather with polyester insulation. Heavy duty gloves. Hardly 
>> worn. Treated with Nikwax. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?

2022-11-12 Thread Johnny Alien

The Gus seems a little bit overbuilt for the type of riding you describe. 
For what you described I would go with the slightly lighter built Susie or 
a Clem.
On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 8:55:02 AM UTC-5 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've got the new bike itch and have shortlisted a Gus or possibly a 
> Platypus. The Gus has called to me for a couple of years but something or 
> other always came up. 
>
> The purpose of the new bike would be mostly to ride 25-35 miles on paved 
> country roads. I live in central Pennsylvania and most of the unpaved stuff 
> is rougher than I care to ride. There's trails that I do ride but any bike 
> with 45mm tires can handle that. Once a month I'll do a 50-60 mile ride. 
>
> I do C level group rides but nothing over 12-13 mph. Frequent in town 
> rides to get food/ coffee. Maybe some overnight camping. My solo riding 
> usually sits around 11 mph unless I'm in a hurry. 
>
> My torso and arms are long so reach has always been an issue. I know the 
> Gus has a long toptube and I think the fit would be a bit better. I'm not a 
> fan of super upright positioning. My hand/ wrist got broke in a fall last 
> year so I like bars with lots of sweep (Jones Loop is wonderful). 
>
> Gearing and tires being equal would the Gus perform as well on the road as 
> the Platypus?  
>
> Thanks for the help! 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jacob
>

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[RBW] Is a Gus the right choice for me? Would a Platypus be better?