Re: [RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Ryan]

My 1997 A/R was painted Sherwood Green..which I really  like. But the lugs 
are less elaborate...so they don't show upbut given those gorgeous RS 
designed lugs you have, you make a really good point that the blue 
highlights them  well. That is a beauty!

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 4:50:42 PM UTC-6 peter@gmail.com wrote:

> I just love the color. The original Sherwood Forest just never did it for 
> me, it sort of hid the nice lugs or made them less obvious.  Good luck with 
> the restore!
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 12:14:14 PM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I currently have a 1995 Riv Road at Waterford waiting to be repainted 
>> also. Mine was originally the English Light Blue, but I haven't decided 
>> whether to stick with that or go with a different color. Yours looks 
>> terrific, definitely an argument for sticking with that color. Thanks for 
>> sharing.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 10:22 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Stunning I say!  Really beautiful!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:36:36 AM UTC-5 peter@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
 when  (I probably should check that!) 

 ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford 
 Precision Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it 
 was brazed at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in 
 January of 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest 
 Green.  

 Here it is now:

 [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]

 By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard 
 Schwinn on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English 
 Light Blue metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure 
 the re-paint would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been 
 worse 
 than suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be 
 superficial.

 I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of 
 configurations:  as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some 
 points 
 I added indexed Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear 
 friction derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 
 single Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older 
 racing bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now 
 pretty much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
 Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  

 This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
 wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
 favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
 record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
 with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims 
 are 
 Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
 other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
 seat for me.

 So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place 
 to share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.

 [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 

 Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
 https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr


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[RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[Ryan]

Paired very nicely with those Dia-Compe levers, which I think are really 
nice...as nice as Pauls IMO.

I know, I know, Paul Components is a US company. I had their Racers 
installed on my mixte and I could've gone all in and got leversbut 
dammit, the dia-compes are nice...and reasonably priced.Just sayin'

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:16:07 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
>
> Here are some photos of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike with Dia-Compe 980 
> cantilever brakes. Let me know, if you need more pictures. 
> My bike came with V-brakes. I took them off and replaced them with the 
> 980s'. 
> I like them.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for bikepacking?

[Ryan Frahm]



On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 6:49:54 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I did wait around to see if I could swing a trade…
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2023, at 6:26 PM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>
> No offense Richard, there’s a Clem in that picture? I’m picturing that 
> Ferrari with a bike rack on it!
>
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 2:31:58 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I just realized this was a thread I started. I don’t think I ever posted 
>> pics of my first ever multi day bikepacking trip. This setup worked really 
>> nicely.
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Vincent,
>>
>> What size tires and fenders are you running on your Clem "H" in your 
>> pictures ?
>>
>> Thank-you,
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:42:42 AM UTC-8 Vincent Tamer wrote:
>>
>>> I own a Clem H but do not utilize the frame space at all for a frame 
>>> bag. I've bikepacked several times and its great! I got lucky and found a 
>>> company blowing out their sackville bags so I stocked up :) Heres a few 
>>> shots from our trips.
>>> [image: IMG_1785.JPG][image: IMG_1629.JPG]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 12:04:11 PM UTC-8 mrg...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Clem L works for birdseedpacking (20lb bag) with a Pletscher rack :) 

 mike

 On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:47:22 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Wondering if there are any Clem L owners here using their rig  for 
> bikepacking excursions? Seems like an ideal platform in spite of having 
> no 
> space for a framebag nor fork mounted braze ons for anything or similar 
> cages. I am thinking of front and rear mimimalist racks from Tumbleweed 
> as 
> they include the anything / manything cage mounts. Curious what others 
> might be doing?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for bikepacking?

[Richard Rose]

I did wait around to see if I could swing a trade…Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 9, 2023, at 6:26 PM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:No offense Richard, there’s a Clem in that picture? I’m picturing that Ferrari with a bike rack on it!On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 2:31:58 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:I just realized this was a thread I started. I don’t think I ever posted pics of my first ever multi day bikepacking trip. This setup worked really nicely.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 9, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:Hi Vincent,What size tires and fenders are you running on your Clem "H" in your pictures ?Thank-you,Kim HetzelYelm, WA.On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:42:42 AM UTC-8 Vincent Tamer wrote:I own a Clem H but do not utilize the frame space at all for a frame bag. I've bikepacked several times and its great! I got lucky and found a company blowing out their sackville bags so I stocked up :) Heres a few shots from our trips.On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 12:04:11 PM UTC-8 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:Clem L works for birdseedpacking (20lb bag) with a Pletscher rack :) mikeOn Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:47:22 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Wondering if there are any Clem L owners here using their rig  for bikepacking excursions? Seems like an ideal platform in spite of having no space for a framebag nor fork mounted braze ons for anything or similar cages. I am thinking of front and rear mimimalist racks from Tumbleweed as they include the anything / manything cage mounts. Curious what others might be doing?



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[RBW] Re: Hillborne vs. Romulus?

[Dave C]

Dan, I have been meaning to write a post about some long term riding 
comparisons I have been making between a Toyo Homer and a Toyo Romulus. I 
have more to say, but I will keep it simple for the moment - yes, there is 
a difference. I have a 59 cm Romulus that rides differently, more flexy in 
a good sense, than the 61 cm Homer.  I will add more later, but I believe 
the Romulus is at my weight -175 pounds - a better ride for light loads and 
fast rides, and the the Homer is a little more stiff, perhaps an advantage 
with greater weight loads. I would wager the Sam will be more like the 
Homer than the Romulus. If you have a 59 cm Romulus, I will buy it from 
you. I have. side pull Romulus and would like a canti one as well.

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:36:44 AM UTC-8 Dan Sullivan wrote:

> Wondering what people who have experience with both the early Hillbornes 
> with cantis and the Romulus think about the two in terms of overall 
> impression -- is one "speedier" than the other, or is one stiffer, etc, 
> those kinds of things.  I get that the Hillborne is a tad longer wheelbase 
> and more tire clearance, but just wondering if one or the other is 
> noticeably stiffer than the other?
>
> Thanks, I have gotten the itch to change things up in my fleet (of two, 
> really not a fleet at all) and since test rides are out of the question 
> looking to the group for advice/opinion.
>
> thanks, Dan in the deep freeze of winter in Mount Horeb, WI
>
> ps. I have a canti-Rom, looking at a first-gen green Sam
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[RBW] Re: Sharing Your Winter Ride Fotos 2023

[larson....@gmail.com]

Takeshita,
Really enjoy your pictures-beautiful landscapes in a part of the world I am 
not familiar with and a good looking Hunqapillar. We had 6” or so of snow 
today, so Appaloosa back inside for now. Keep posting those pictures!
Randy in WI

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 6:13:50 PM UTC-6 Takashi wrote:

> Ted, I bet it's also beautiful there when leaves are green. Or in autumn.
>
> Steve, looking at your photo it must have been a very nice day to ride, 
> but yes, I'd like to see how it's like when there is snow. Please keep 
> posting!
>
> Randy, that photo looks like milder climate compared to your first photo 
> in this thread. Great that you had a chance to ride your cool Appaloosa.
>
>
> Here are some photos from last Saturday's ride:
> [image: DSC02789.jpg]
>
> [image: DSC02817.jpg]
>
> I rode at foothill of Mt. Ontake and visited Fueki-no-taki (Fueki 
> Waterfall).
> The waterfall is approachable only on foot, so no photo of the waterfall 
> and bike together.
>
> [image: DSC02808.jpg]
>
> [image: DSC02802.jpg]
>
> Water freezes and forms giant icicles.
> In the photo above you can see another visitor wearing a green jacket, so 
> you can see sizes of icicles.
> You can go behind the fall, and it's like this:
> [image: DSC02814.jpg]
>
>
> Takashi
>
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[RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

I have a new in package set front PM sent

Jeff

On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 09:33:34 UTC-6 jeff dobie wrote:

> thinking of replacing my Tektro Oryx's (because the sux) with some 980's. 
> Like to see how they look in the real world..

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for bikepacking?

[Ryan Frahm]

No offense Richard, there’s a Clem in that picture? I’m picturing that 
Ferrari with a bike rack on it!

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 2:31:58 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just realized this was a thread I started. I don’t think I ever posted 
> pics of my first ever multi day bikepacking trip. This setup worked really 
> nicely.
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 9, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Vincent,
>
> What size tires and fenders are you running on your Clem "H" in your 
> pictures ?
>
> Thank-you,
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:42:42 AM UTC-8 Vincent Tamer wrote:
>
>> I own a Clem H but do not utilize the frame space at all for a frame bag. 
>> I've bikepacked several times and its great! I got lucky and found a 
>> company blowing out their sackville bags so I stocked up :) Heres a few 
>> shots from our trips.
>> [image: IMG_1785.JPG][image: IMG_1629.JPG]
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 12:04:11 PM UTC-8 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Clem L works for birdseedpacking (20lb bag) with a Pletscher rack :) 
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:47:22 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Wondering if there are any Clem L owners here using their rig  for 
 bikepacking excursions? Seems like an ideal platform in spite of having no 
 space for a framebag nor fork mounted braze ons for anything or similar 
 cages. I am thinking of front and rear mimimalist racks from Tumbleweed as 
 they include the anything / manything cage mounts. Curious what others 
 might be doing?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Peter Guyton]

Patrick, 
The pedals are Speedplay Zero, now part of the Wahoo product line. I've 
liked the float of speedplays for my knees for years. The non-drive side 
has a power meter build into the pedal so that part sticks out a bit. 

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 11:54:44 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Lovely bike. My first Waterford-built custom was delivered in 1995 and I 
> recall the fragility -- ready to flake -- of the paint, so perhaps the new 
> Waterford paint is more durable? At any rate, it looks beautiful. And I 
> like the personalized, eclectic collection of parts. My 1999 has the same 
> lugs.
>
> What are those pedals?
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 8:36 AM Peter Guyton  wrote:
>
>> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
>> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>>
>> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
>> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
>> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
>> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>>
>> Here it is now:
>>
>> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>>
>> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
>> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
>> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
>> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
>> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>>
>> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
>> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
>> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
>> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
>> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
>> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
>> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
>> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>>
>> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
>> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
>> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
>> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
>> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
>> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
>> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
>> seat for me.
>>
>> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
>> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>>
>> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>>
>> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
>> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>>
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[RBW] Re: Platypus questions

[Joe Bernard]

Can concur. My 54.3cm custom (79 PBH) has a Platypus-like to toptube which 
I consider a "mid-tube" that falls between a traditional diamond frame and 
step-through. It's great for stopping for a minute to get both feet down 
and check my phone or whatever, but I've had very little success stepping 
through it to get on or off the bike. I always kick it and I paid a lot of 
money for all that fancy Joe Bell paint so...I don't do that anymore! Clem 
L is the trick for stepping through. 

Also the L is probably a softer ride. I haven't ridden a Platypus but I 
owned its predecessor, a 55cm Cheviot, and it was notably stiffer than the 
two sizes of Clem L (45 and 52) that have passed through my hands.   
On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:33:10 AM UTC-8 Steven Seelig wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> My PBH is a little higher than yours.  I just got a new Platypus, well 
> last Fall, and followed Riv's advice in getting the 60cm size along with 
> pretty long reach Nitto Loscoe handlebars.  Looks like the photos here: 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/frame-platypus-2021
>
> My experience is that I sometimes step through to get on the bike, but it 
> is sorta hard to do that think where you take your leg as you are about to 
> dismount while riding and slide it through in front of you to get both feet 
> on the ground.the gap .  The frame is just a bit too high for that.  I 
> compare that to my first generation Xtracycle long tail, where I have to 
> dismount that way because if I swing my leg around I would kick my kid or 
> any cargo quite inelegantly.  
>
> As for mounting the bike, or getting off once stopped, there is still an 
> extra bit of leg lifting to do.  So I think Kim is onto something here with 
> the Clem.
>
> Steve Seelig, Wash, DC
>
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 PM UTC-5 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Doug! Although not platypuss, I have clem L in both 59cm and 52cm if 
>> you want to take a test ride. Holler at me, I'm in the Valley.
>> - Matt
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 5:08:01 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the response, Kim. Really, any Rivendell step thru is an 
>>> option. I don't do any trail riding so the Platypus is sufficient & I'm 
>>> guessing will have a softer ride than one of the more trail capable frames. 
>>> A major factor will be what's available, and with Riv's current delivery 
>>> program one has to be ready to make a decision & commit on short notice. 
>>>
>>> doug
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Hi Doug,

 With the purchase of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, it was the best 
 option for me in choosing a bicycle with a step-through frame with an 
 upright riding position as a senior cyclist. Yes, I had trouble swinging 
 my 
 right leg over the back end of my previous bike, as well.  I have been 
 looking for these requirements in a bike for quite a few years.  
 Furthermore, I enjoy the Clem's capabilities as being a ATB. A very solid 
 and sure-footed bike. 

 The Clem maybe an option for you ?

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA.


 On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> I love my Atlantis, but it's getting harder to swing the old leg over 
> the saddle. Time to move on to a step thru. The Platypus looks like the 
> best option for my riding, mostly short trips around town. 
>
> The 55 cm fits my PBH (84) & saddle height. What I'm interested in 
> doing is comparing the geometry to my 58 cm Toyo Atlantis. Specifically, 
> I'm curious about the distance of the seat from the bars. I seem to be 
> shrinking in my old age & the reach on the Atlantis is just a bit too 
> far. 
> Not unridable but a noticeable stretch, even with a short stem & swept 
> back 
> bars.
>
> Let me know if you may be of assistance. Be forewarned I'll probably 
> think of some more questions if this looks promising. It would be 
> fantastic 
> is you're in southern California.
>
> Doug Peterson 
>  
>


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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Peter Guyton]

Well I live outside Portland Maine and the weather definitely has not been 
perfect !  though I did actually see some people riding outdoors today 
(it hit a balmy 45 today after being -17 last Friday).  Riding here is 
great from April thru September though, and the summers don't get so hot.  

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 3:04:11 PM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:

> What a good story of bicycle and bicyclist!  Thank you for including a 
> great set of photos; as everyone has said, the restoration is beautiful, 
> offering testimony too to Waterford as a do-it-all shop.  
>
> One of the many things I appreciate about bicycles is the long lives of 
> multiple use and pleasure they have--and in this case, with one owner only!
>
> Tom
> In Miami, where the riding weather is perfect . . . for now
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 12:42:37 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Peter, beautiful job, great color.  I hope you enjoy the bike for many 
>> more years.  
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:36:36 AM UTC-5 peter@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
>>> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>>>
>>> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
>>> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
>>> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
>>> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>>>
>>> Here it is now:
>>>
>>> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>>>
>>> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
>>> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
>>> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
>>> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
>>> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>>>
>>> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of 
>>> configurations:  as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points 
>>> I added indexed Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear 
>>> friction derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 
>>> single Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older 
>>> racing bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now 
>>> pretty much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
>>> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>>>
>>> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
>>> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
>>> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
>>> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
>>> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
>>> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
>>> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
>>> seat for me.
>>>
>>> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place 
>>> to share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>>>
>>> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>>>
>>> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
>>> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Peter Guyton]

Jock,
As additional info: Richard Sachs designed the curvey lugs for the first 
RIv Roads. I didn't know that in 1995 but saw it in one of the original 
catalogs.  Yeah, there is definitely a difference when you turned the 
wrench yourself.  Been a while but it was fun.  I didn't wrap the bars so 
great but may try to do it again (can't tell in the photos hopefully).

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 11:50:16 AM UTC-5 Jock Dewey wrote:

> Peter, that is a timelessly beautiful bicycle. Bravo for spending the $$ 
> and taking the time to preserve it. IMHO, there is nothing so satisfying as 
> riding a bicycle you have owned and maintained for years and years. Richard 
> is one of our greatest treasures as he keeps on keeping on. Cycling royalty 
> right there!
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:36:36 AM UTC-8 peter@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
>> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>>
>> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
>> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
>> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
>> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>>
>> Here it is now:
>>
>> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>>
>> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
>> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
>> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
>> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
>> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>>
>> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
>> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
>> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
>> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
>> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
>> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
>> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
>> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>>
>> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
>> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
>> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
>> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
>> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
>> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
>> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
>> seat for me.
>>
>> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
>> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>>
>> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>>
>> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
>> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Peter Guyton]

I just love the color. The original Sherwood Forest just never did it for 
me, it sort of hid the nice lugs or made them less obvious.  Good luck with 
the restore!

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 12:14:14 PM UTC-5 codyt...@gmail.com wrote:

> I currently have a 1995 Riv Road at Waterford waiting to be repainted 
> also. Mine was originally the English Light Blue, but I haven't decided 
> whether to stick with that or go with a different color. Yours looks 
> terrific, definitely an argument for sticking with that color. Thanks for 
> sharing.
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 10:22 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Stunning I say!  Really beautiful!
>>
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:36:36 AM UTC-5 peter@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
>>> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>>>
>>> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
>>> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
>>> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
>>> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>>>
>>> Here it is now:
>>>
>>> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>>>
>>> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
>>> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
>>> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
>>> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
>>> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>>>
>>> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of 
>>> configurations:  as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points 
>>> I added indexed Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear 
>>> friction derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 
>>> single Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older 
>>> racing bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now 
>>> pretty much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
>>> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>>>
>>> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
>>> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
>>> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
>>> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
>>> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
>>> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
>>> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
>>> seat for me.
>>>
>>> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place 
>>> to share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>>>
>>> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>>>
>>> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
>>> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Peter Guyton]

Edwin,
The cost was probably about $1,100 when it was all said and done, excluding 
a little extra work I had to pay for (I left the headset in and they 
charged me to take it out and replace the cups and one other spot where a 
bolt was stuck behind the BB where you can attach the bottom of the 
fender).  It was all fair I think.  

The panels and extra touches (head tube, paint on top of fork crown) cost 
extra. I think you could do a more basic paint job for under $1k. Now, a 
new frame of this caliber would probably cost $2,500+ no?

I used to live in Stamford CT where the italian center would host a Ferrari 
show in the Spring most years (I think they stopped now). People would 
drive into the show in new and old Ferraris;  one was a 1963 GTO worth 
(back in 2007 or so) something like $3m or $5m and there was another 1938 
(?) Alfa Romeo that won Lemans that year. At the end of the show, the owner 
of the Alfa (also worth multiple $millions) hopped in the car and drove hit 
home on the street.  I was sort of in shock but also though it was pretty 
cool.  So I feel like my Riv Road should be ridden, you know? I won't ride 
it a ton but I'll get out there!
On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 4:41:00 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:

> Peter,
>
> That is a beautiful bike! 
> Perfect job by you and Waterford.
>
> How much did it cost to do? Because I will do that to one of my bikes one 
> day, and want to start saving!!
>
> You could literally just hang that on the wall as a beautiful thing to 
> look at every day... 
>
> Edwin
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:36:36 AM UTC-6 peter@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
>> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>>
>> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
>> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
>> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
>> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>>
>> Here it is now:
>>
>> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>>
>> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
>> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
>> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
>> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
>> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>>
>> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
>> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
>> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
>> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
>> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
>> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
>> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
>> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>>
>> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
>> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
>> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
>> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
>> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
>> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
>> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
>> seat for me.
>>
>> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
>> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>>
>> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>>
>> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
>> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on film

[jamin orrall]

Great pictures Drew and Shawn! thank you for sharing!

Scott, the rack on the Atlantis is a Nitto "mark's rack"

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:30:42 AM UTC-8 Shawn Granton wrote:

> Hello all-
>
> I don't own a Riv but I'm often around them! And I often have a film 
> camera on me to capture them.
>
> [image: andys_homer.jpg]
> Here's Andy Schmidt's A. Homer Hilsen at his Lord's Luggage studio (check 
> that out!) Taken on 15 Oct 2022.
> Camera: Olympus 35RD
> Film: Ilford HP5+
> Home Developed
> Rondinax 35U Daylight Tank
> Ilfosol 3 1:9 for 5:30 minutes
> This is a scan of a darkroom print that I made at Portland Community 
> College. You'll often find John Rivelo Bennett lurkin' in this darkroom.
>
> And how about some Rivendells on film...at Rivendell!
> [image: 52197691132_7eb85b8649_c.jpg][image: 
> 52198690761_8a735a3726_c.jpg][image: 
> 52198707613_09d8ac3579_c.jpg][image: 52199191595_58e2e30131_c.jpg][image: 
> 52198963144_32507442c3_c.jpg]
> These were all taken on a visit on 22 June 2022.
> Camera: Minolta XD5
> Lens: Minolta MD 50mm f/1.7
> Film: Kentmere 400
> Home Developed and Scanned
> Ilfosol 3 1:9 at 5:30 in a Rondinax 35U Daylight Tank
> Scanned by Kodak Scanza
>
> Now for some color:
>
> [image: 52182402049_f8eb4e2aac_c.jpg]
> From the same Riv visit. Camera: Olympus XA2 Film: Fuji 200
>
> [image: 52650900034_d9ee2f13da_c.jpg]
> A Cheviot on SE Division here in Portland, 13 Jan 2023. Camera: Olympus XA 
> Film: Fuji C200
>
> [image: 52649210158_41b9e35dc9_c.jpg]
> Rivendell Hillborne spotted at Belmont Library, 17 Jan 2023. This is my 
> local branch, and always a good spot to spot bikes. 
> Camera: Olympus XA2
> Film: Kodak Portra 400
>
> Best,
> Shawn in PDX
>

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[RBW] Re: 64cm Clem "Reach"

[Mackenzy Albright]

I can't remember precisely off the top of my head, but if i recall the 
imaginary TT is around 70cm. 

I have a 59 clementine with bullmoose boscos and a 64 clem Jr. with a 90mm 
stem and loscos are *very similar * in total reach. 

I currently am running a positive rise 130mm ritchey force stem and loscos 
and find it extremely comfortable. I find the fit to be quite flexible. 

Im around 6' 1" with an 89.5 PBH 



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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Edwin W]

Peter,

That is a beautiful bike! 
Perfect job by you and Waterford.

How much did it cost to do? Because I will do that to one of my bikes one 
day, and want to start saving!!

You could literally just hang that on the wall as a beautiful thing to look 
at every day... 

Edwin

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:36:36 AM UTC-6 peter@gmail.com wrote:

> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>
> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>
> Here it is now:
>
> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>
> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>
> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>
> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
> seat for me.
>
> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>
> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>
> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Intense Swiss alpine descents cycling video

[Joe Mullins]

I wonder how many of those screaming kids tried some of those sections 
after getting stoked watching that guy. 

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:53:30 AM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:

> If you really want to lose your cookies watch this insane urban downhill 
> in South America:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56kJ99AvfoI
>
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:25:34 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-02-09 at 9.19.12 AM.png]
>>
>> This is well outside the style of bikes and riding we discuss around here 
>> but I wanted to share a video I've enjoyed. Forgive me if this has been 
>> discussed or shared before. 
>>
>> https://youtu.be/0GkDEmalrRc
>>
>> It's from Safa Brian, a former bicycle messenger with a popular cycling 
>> YouTube channel. And you might have seen in some of Terry B's videos (also 
>> NSFRBW). The video collects some of his long descents from a trip to 
>> Switzerland in 2022. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-02-09 at 9.19.05 AM.png]
>>
>> There are beautiful vistas, impressive roads, cows, bridges, cobbles, 
>> fog, mist, chateaux, tunnels and stunning mountains. There is crazy speed, 
>> carbon bikes, dangerous maneuvering, fast music and a crash. 
>>
>> I've watched this twice in the past few months and find it totally 
>> mesmerizing, it's a blast. I've read about all of these passes in Jobst 
>> Brandt's alpine ride diaries so it's nice to have some moving pictures of 
>> these places. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-02-09 at 9.18.49 AM.png]
>>
>> At over twenty minutes there's plenty to see and there are some nice 
>> scenes intercut with what looks like 8mm film footage and alpine b-roll. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-02-09 at 9.18.57 AM.png]
>>
>> Too crazy for you? A fun viewing experience? I don't think I'll ever ride 
>> anything like this but I've found it a real pleasure to watch. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Tom Goodmann]

What a good story of bicycle and bicyclist!  Thank you for including a 
great set of photos; as everyone has said, the restoration is beautiful, 
offering testimony too to Waterford as a do-it-all shop.  

One of the many things I appreciate about bicycles is the long lives of 
multiple use and pleasure they have--and in this case, with one owner only!

Tom
In Miami, where the riding weather is perfect . . . for now

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 12:42:37 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Peter, beautiful job, great color.  I hope you enjoy the bike for many 
> more years.  
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:36:36 AM UTC-5 peter@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
>> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>>
>> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
>> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
>> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
>> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>>
>> Here it is now:
>>
>> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>>
>> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
>> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
>> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
>> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
>> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>>
>> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
>> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
>> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
>> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
>> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
>> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
>> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
>> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>>
>> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
>> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
>> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
>> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
>> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
>> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
>> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
>> seat for me.
>>
>> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
>> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>>
>> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>>
>> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
>> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Motolite and Love levers 2.5

[Ryan Frahm]

SOLD! 

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 11:22:38 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Sold pending payment. 
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:09:00 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> New in box levers and brakes. 2 Motolite brakes. I haven’t opened them to 
>> take pictures, just decided not to go so high end. All silver parts. Let me 
>> know if you want pictures and I’ll open them up, thanks!
>>
>> Levers $110
>> Brakes $275 for both 
>> +shipping 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Motolite and Love levers 2.5

[Ryan Frahm]

Sold pending payment. 

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:09:00 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> New in box levers and brakes. 2 Motolite brakes. I haven’t opened them to 
> take pictures, just decided not to go so high end. All silver parts. Let me 
> know if you want pictures and I’ll open them up, thanks!
>
> Levers $110
> Brakes $275 for both 
> +shipping 
>

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[RBW] Re: Intense Swiss alpine descents cycling video

[George Schick]

If you really want to lose your cookies watch this insane urban downhill in 
South America:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56kJ99AvfoI


On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:25:34 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: Screen Shot 2023-02-09 at 9.19.12 AM.png]
>
> This is well outside the style of bikes and riding we discuss around here 
> but I wanted to share a video I've enjoyed. Forgive me if this has been 
> discussed or shared before. 
>
> https://youtu.be/0GkDEmalrRc
>
> It's from Safa Brian, a former bicycle messenger with a popular cycling 
> YouTube channel. And you might have seen in some of Terry B's videos (also 
> NSFRBW). The video collects some of his long descents from a trip to 
> Switzerland in 2022. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-02-09 at 9.19.05 AM.png]
>
> There are beautiful vistas, impressive roads, cows, bridges, cobbles, fog, 
> mist, chateaux, tunnels and stunning mountains. There is crazy speed, 
> carbon bikes, dangerous maneuvering, fast music and a crash. 
>
> I've watched this twice in the past few months and find it totally 
> mesmerizing, it's a blast. I've read about all of these passes in Jobst 
> Brandt's alpine ride diaries so it's nice to have some moving pictures of 
> these places. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-02-09 at 9.18.49 AM.png]
>
> At over twenty minutes there's plenty to see and there are some nice 
> scenes intercut with what looks like 8mm film footage and alpine b-roll. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-02-09 at 9.18.57 AM.png]
>
> Too crazy for you? A fun viewing experience? I don't think I'll ever ride 
> anything like this but I've found it a real pleasure to watch. 
>

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[RBW] FS: Paul Motolite and Love levers 2.5

[Ryan Frahm]

New in box levers and brakes. 2 Motolite brakes. I haven’t opened them to 
take pictures, just decided not to go so high end. All silver parts. Let me 
know if you want pictures and I’ll open them up, thanks!

Levers $110
Brakes $275 for both 
+shipping 

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[RBW] Re: Clem for bikepacking?

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Vincent,

What size tires and fenders are you running on your Clem "H" in your 
pictures ?

Thank-you,
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:42:42 AM UTC-8 Vincent Tamer wrote:

> I own a Clem H but do not utilize the frame space at all for a frame bag. 
> I've bikepacked several times and its great! I got lucky and found a 
> company blowing out their sackville bags so I stocked up :) Heres a few 
> shots from our trips.
> [image: IMG_1785.JPG][image: IMG_1629.JPG]
>
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 12:04:11 PM UTC-8 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Clem L works for birdseedpacking (20lb bag) with a Pletscher rack :) 
>>
>> mike
>>
>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:47:22 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Wondering if there are any Clem L owners here using their rig  for 
>>> bikepacking excursions? Seems like an ideal platform in spite of having no 
>>> space for a framebag nor fork mounted braze ons for anything or similar 
>>> cages. I am thinking of front and rear mimimalist racks from Tumbleweed as 
>>> they include the anything / manything cage mounts. Curious what others 
>>> might be doing?
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[J S]

Peter, beautiful job, great color.  I hope you enjoy the bike for many more 
years.  
On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:36:36 AM UTC-5 peter@gmail.com 
wrote:

> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>
> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>
> Here it is now:
>
> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>
> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>
> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>
> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
> seat for me.
>
> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>
> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>
> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[greenteadrinkers]

Just noticed there's a large Hunqapiller listed on eBay (no relation to 
seller).

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155394994996?hash=item242e437334:g:9qAAAOSw1h5j4Cpb=enc%3AAQAHoKAyvKnSGl9k%2BQm%2B0Y9exG1HE1M7iS%2B9idCmGgqZhGGIUO0f2BoMMp3k96mKzAKMDS7swuNebD3Vf39rcUw2%2Bki8I8i23%2FYLMCLIYjFCjEPLn2RseELoecHbK5e6bVU%2BM5QfDSems%2BB3aRvBxyahSZHNKGcrag4fWFta4kEiyGQbilvv6QIBf%2BsW1QmpTzgGS%2BrgOrY2klKrwuTa83ue4Q4%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6Cb_vPGYQ

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 3:59:49 PM UTC-5 frank_a wrote:

>
> There were two versions of the seat sandwich. One for the single bolt 
> Laprade style post and another for a two-bolt Campagnolo post. I seem to 
> remember the longer bolt being included.
> [image: 61F75E16-DABC-4680-A3C0-982BCB1B00B5.jpeg]
> - Frank
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:18:32 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> B72 on Breezer seat sandwich on Nitto lugged seatpost. Had to modify for 
>> the two bolt post and special order the 7mm longer bolts.
>>
>> [image: B72side s.jpg]
>>
>> [image: B72 Breezer s.jpg]
>>
>> Laing
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 10:59:20 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Those Breezer seat sandwiches are so hard to find.  I did, however, find 
>>> a 3D printing plan for one that someone put on Thingiverse.  I had 
>>> Shapeways print it in glass-filled nylon, and it's been working pretty well 
>>> with the B-72 on my Hunq.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 9:08:12 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>>
 After reading that, I may have to put my Brooks B-72 with the Breezer 
 Seat Sandwich on the Bombadil. Just sitting on the shelf now, used to be 
 on 
 my fatbike. Mine is a later version (bought new less than 10 years ago) 
 with a black frame. Makes me want to get the frame plated.

 Laing

 On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

>
> Enjoy, Johns article is up: 
> https://theradavist.com/rivendell-bombadil-review/
> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:17:24 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Wow! I'm super impressed. And I bet they are all in the same great 
>> condition as your Bombadil. Thanks for sharing.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 8:04:43 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> 8 - behind the Bombadil - Betty Foy, Hubbuhubbuh, Frank Jones Sr, 
>>> Mystery Bike, Gus Boots Willsen, hanging on the wall Rosco Bubbe V1, 
>>> Rivendell Custom. There are others not in the picture (Clementine, 
>>> Rosco 
>>> Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte, Roscoe Baby, Keven's Custom Mixte). The 
>>> Hubbuhubbuh has been sold since the picture was taken.
>>>
>>> Also in the picture - 2 1973 Schwinn Paramount P-15s, 2 Flying 
>>> Pigeons, 2 Gitane Tour de Frances, Pashley Guv'nor, Crust Scapegoat,  
>>> Kent 
>>> Cavalier (recumbent 3 wheeler).
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 1:19:46 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>> Wait a minute there Laing! How many Riv's are in that picture???
>>>
>>> Drill press, one of my favorite tools :)
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on film

[greenteadrinkers]

Amazing images! Wanted to ask what *rack* are you using to support the 
black Carridce (Nelson Long flap?).

Scott
Amherst MA

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 12:19:25 PM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:

> Looking at my Flickr stream, I only found two photos of my Riv taken with 
> a film camera. I thought I had done more over the years, but maybe I just 
> haven't scanned them and put them up.
> https://flic.kr/p/67KheV
> https://flic.kr/p/67PtfS
>
> They're obviously taken one after the other, back on Pi Day of 2009. I 
> don't recall if I had any pie that day. Anyway, I have long since sold that 
> Fuji GA645zi medium format "monster point and shoot" (of course, I sold it 
> before the prices exploded...grumble), but I do ride my Quickbeam when I'm 
> taking the large format 4x5" Ebony camera out to shoot at local gardens. I 
> just haven't yet turned the lens on the bike, maybe I will next time.
>
> That Fuji camera had a data back, so it could imprint focal length and 
> exposure information in the gap between frames, which was quite handy. 
>
> Drew
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:29:44 AM UTC-8 jamin orrall wrote:
>
>> Thanks Eric! I appreciate all your contributions to this forum.
>>
>> Thank you Shoji, I bought the frames secondhand from 2 different owners. 
>> By coincidence I ended up with 2 Waterfords with custom paint that I did 
>> not pick but I am enjoying the colors as well, they really blend in with 
>> the landscape.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:06:24 AM UTC-8 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>>> Great colors-- something special about film. 
>>>
>>> Speaking of colors, I love that color on the Atlantis.
>>>
>>> Shoji
>>> Arlington MA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:46:45 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dang, Jamin, these are great. I especially like that pic of your Homer 
 in shadow with the mountains in the sun. Really good! 

 On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 8:17:57 PM UTC-5 jamin orrall wrote:

> Accidentally posted this to ibob so I'm moving it here! (pretty 
> Rivendell specific)
>
> Got a roll of film back yesterday and it had several shots of my 
> bikes/rides! I thought ya'll might enjoy! Feel free to post any recent 
> Rivendell film shots if you have some.
>
> Taken with a Nikon FE on Kodak portra film.   Still learning how to 
> use an slr and it's kinda heavy/bulky but I got inspired by all those RSF 
> riders with big honkin cameras slung across their backs.
>
> Jamin
>
> [image: 05810033 Large.jpeg]
> [image: 05810029 Large.jpeg][image: 05810023 Large.jpeg][image: 
> 05810020 Large.jpeg]
>
> [image: 05810008 Large.jpeg][image: 05810007 Large.jpeg]
> [image: 05810015 Large.jpeg]
>


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[RBW] Re: Rivs on film

[Drew Saunders]

Looking at my Flickr stream, I only found two photos of my Riv taken with a 
film camera. I thought I had done more over the years, but maybe I just 
haven't scanned them and put them up.
https://flic.kr/p/67KheV
https://flic.kr/p/67PtfS

They're obviously taken one after the other, back on Pi Day of 2009. I 
don't recall if I had any pie that day. Anyway, I have long since sold that 
Fuji GA645zi medium format "monster point and shoot" (of course, I sold it 
before the prices exploded...grumble), but I do ride my Quickbeam when I'm 
taking the large format 4x5" Ebony camera out to shoot at local gardens. I 
just haven't yet turned the lens on the bike, maybe I will next time.

That Fuji camera had a data back, so it could imprint focal length and 
exposure information in the gap between frames, which was quite handy. 

Drew

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:29:44 AM UTC-8 jamin orrall wrote:

> Thanks Eric! I appreciate all your contributions to this forum.
>
> Thank you Shoji, I bought the frames secondhand from 2 different owners. 
> By coincidence I ended up with 2 Waterfords with custom paint that I did 
> not pick but I am enjoying the colors as well, they really blend in with 
> the landscape.
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:06:24 AM UTC-8 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
>> Great colors-- something special about film. 
>>
>> Speaking of colors, I love that color on the Atlantis.
>>
>> Shoji
>> Arlington MA
>>
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:46:45 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dang, Jamin, these are great. I especially like that pic of your Homer 
>>> in shadow with the mountains in the sun. Really good! 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 8:17:57 PM UTC-5 jamin orrall wrote:
>>>
 Accidentally posted this to ibob so I'm moving it here! (pretty 
 Rivendell specific)

 Got a roll of film back yesterday and it had several shots of my 
 bikes/rides! I thought ya'll might enjoy! Feel free to post any recent 
 Rivendell film shots if you have some.

 Taken with a Nikon FE on Kodak portra film.   Still learning how to use 
 an slr and it's kinda heavy/bulky but I got inspired by all those RSF 
 riders with big honkin cameras slung across their backs.

 Jamin

 [image: 05810033 Large.jpeg]
 [image: 05810029 Large.jpeg][image: 05810023 Large.jpeg][image: 
 05810020 Large.jpeg]

 [image: 05810008 Large.jpeg][image: 05810007 Large.jpeg]
 [image: 05810015 Large.jpeg]

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Cody Marvin]

I currently have a 1995 Riv Road at Waterford waiting to be repainted also.
Mine was originally the English Light Blue, but I haven't decided whether
to stick with that or go with a different color. Yours looks terrific,
definitely an argument for sticking with that color. Thanks for sharing.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 10:22 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Stunning I say!  Really beautiful!
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:36:36 AM UTC-5 peter@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back
>> when  (I probably should check that!)
>>
>> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision
>> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed
>> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of
>> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.
>>
>> Here it is now:
>>
>> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>>
>> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn
>> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue
>> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint
>> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than
>> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>>
>> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:
>> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed
>> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction
>> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single
>> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing
>> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty
>> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the
>> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.
>>
>> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I
>> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my
>> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and
>> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted
>> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are
>> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or
>> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great
>> seat for me.
>>
>> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to
>> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>>
>> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg]
>>
>> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
>> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>>
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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Jock Dewey]

Peter, that is a timelessly beautiful bicycle. Bravo for spending the $$ 
and taking the time to preserve it. IMHO, there is nothing so satisfying as 
riding a bicycle you have owned and maintained for years and years. Richard 
is one of our greatest treasures as he keeps on keeping on. Cycling royalty 
right there!

BEST / Jock Dewey
On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:36:36 AM UTC-8 peter@gmail.com wrote:

> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>
> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>
> Here it is now:
>
> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>
> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>
> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>
> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
> seat for me.
>
> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>
> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>
> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on film

[jamin orrall]

Thanks Eric! I appreciate all your contributions to this forum.

Thank you Shoji, I bought the frames secondhand from 2 different owners. By 
coincidence I ended up with 2 Waterfords with custom paint that I did not 
pick but I am enjoying the colors as well, they really blend in with the 
landscape.

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:06:24 AM UTC-8 Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> Great colors-- something special about film. 
>
> Speaking of colors, I love that color on the Atlantis.
>
> Shoji
> Arlington MA
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:46:45 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Dang, Jamin, these are great. I especially like that pic of your Homer in 
>> shadow with the mountains in the sun. Really good! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 8:17:57 PM UTC-5 jamin orrall wrote:
>>
>>> Accidentally posted this to ibob so I'm moving it here! (pretty 
>>> Rivendell specific)
>>>
>>> Got a roll of film back yesterday and it had several shots of my 
>>> bikes/rides! I thought ya'll might enjoy! Feel free to post any recent 
>>> Rivendell film shots if you have some.
>>>
>>> Taken with a Nikon FE on Kodak portra film.   Still learning how to use 
>>> an slr and it's kinda heavy/bulky but I got inspired by all those RSF 
>>> riders with big honkin cameras slung across their backs.
>>>
>>> Jamin
>>>
>>> [image: 05810033 Large.jpeg]
>>> [image: 05810029 Large.jpeg][image: 05810023 Large.jpeg][image: 
>>> 05810020 Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: 05810008 Large.jpeg][image: 05810007 Large.jpeg]
>>> [image: 05810015 Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

[Steve]

Wow! Beautiful restoration. I love the fact that you've owned the bike 
since it's inception - and are still into it enough to lavish that much 
love on it. Thanks for posting. Share some more pics. I'd love to see the 
details.

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:36:36 AM UTC-5 peter@gmail.com 
wrote:

> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>
> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>
> Here it is now:
>
> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>
> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>
> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>
> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
> seat for me.
>
> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>
> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>
> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Canti Romulus in South Korea

[jamin orrall]

Beautiful Romulus!

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:34:24 AM UTC-8 Marcus Gomersall wrote:

> I was on the lookout for a steel road bike for a while and jumped at the 
> chance when I saw this beautiful canti Romulus on instagram in the US. 
> Luckily, it arrived in South Korea unscathed and is a dream to ride. 
> Thought you might appreciate this unique bike from the single run of canti 
> Roms.
> [image: 20221229_121201.jpg][image: 20221211_124936.jpg]

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[RBW] Re: Just restored '95 Riv Road

['Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Stunning I say!  Really beautiful!

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:36:36 AM UTC-5 peter@gmail.com 
wrote:

> This may be my first post here,  though it's likely I posted way back 
> when  (I probably should check that!) 
>
> ... So I just had my 1995 Rivendell Road restored at Waterford Precision 
> Cycles late last Fall.  I actually ordered the frame in 1995, it was brazed 
> at the Waterford factory in late '95 and delivered to me in January of 
> 1996.  So I consider a 1995. It was originally Sherwood Forest Green.  
>
> Here it is now:
>
> [image: Rivendell Studio 1-28-230034- Format10 export.jpg]
>
> By luck or happenstance, I actually worked directly with Richard Schwinn 
> on the project and I gravitated toward the color "*English Light Blue 
> metalic"  *when I saw a sample *.  *At first I wasn't sure the re-paint 
> would happen as a few surface rust spots could have been worse than 
> suspected, but all the potential problems turned out to be superficial.
>
> I rode this bike over the last 27+ years in a variety of configurations:  
> as a near-racer, later a fendered commuter, at some points I added indexed 
> Suntour Superbe derailleurs and later an old Simplex rear friction 
> derailleur. It had Modolo brakes for years as well as some 1989 single 
> Pivot Dura-Ace calipers. Eventually it received hand-me-down older racing 
> bike parts, Shimano and Campy,  from my racing bikes and it is now pretty 
> much a traditional British style race bike in the tradition of the 
> Bridgestone RB-1, except with 11-speed drive train.  
>
> This current build is mostly Campy with an Athena rear derailleur (I 
> wanted a lot of chrome), Record square taper BB and crank (maybe my 
> favorite crank of all time),  rebuilt Record hubs, Chorus calipers and 
> record front derailleur..  The seatpost is a cool Salsa that can be tilted 
> with out loosening the clamp. Stem is a wonderful old Nitto Pearl. Rims are 
> Hed Belgium with 28c Rene Hearse tires. The seat is a no-name something or 
> other I found on Amazon and bought for the color, turns out to be a great 
> seat for me.
>
> So I  just finished the build last week and felt this was a good place to 
> share. I have a particular affinity for the Richard Sachs designed lugs.
>
> [image: _PSG0709- FM sRGB 2400px 1.jpg] 
>
> Here is a cloud folder of frame-only photos and a few after built.
> https://ln5.sync.com/dl/daf4b7440/vjrbrwbt-ipme6hme-k74hpdjr-9ky5ayyr
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Intense Swiss alpine descents cycling video

[Keith Paugh]

This is great. Fun to watch.
Beautiful country. I love it when a place is unmistakable for any other.

Reminded me of the Claude Lelouch film Renez-vous

Another very different type of "riding" mind you.
Thanks for sharing!
k.

On Feb 9, 2023, at 6:25 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:





This is well outside the style of bikes and riding we discuss around here
but I wanted to share a video I've enjoyed. Forgive me if this has been
discussed or shared before.

https://youtu.be/0GkDEmalrRc

It's from Safa Brian, a former bicycle messenger with a popular cycling
YouTube channel. And you might have seen in some of Terry B's videos (also
NSFRBW). The video collects some of his long descents from a trip to
Switzerland in 2022.




There are beautiful vistas, impressive roads, cows, bridges, cobbles, fog,
mist, chateaux, tunnels and stunning mountains. There is crazy speed,
carbon bikes, dangerous maneuvering, fast music and a crash.

I've watched this twice in the past few months and find it totally
mesmerizing, it's a blast. I've read about all of these passes in Jobst
Brandt's alpine ride diaries so it's nice to have some moving pictures of
these places.




At over twenty minutes there's plenty to see and there are some nice scenes
intercut with what looks like 8mm film footage and alpine b-roll.




Too crazy for you? A fun viewing experience? I don't think I'll ever ride
anything like this but I've found it a real pleasure to watch.

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[RBW] Hillborne vs. Romulus?

[Dan Sullivan]

Wondering what people who have experience with both the early Hillbornes 
with cantis and the Romulus think about the two in terms of overall 
impression -- is one "speedier" than the other, or is one stiffer, etc, 
those kinds of things.  I get that the Hillborne is a tad longer wheelbase 
and more tire clearance, but just wondering if one or the other is 
noticeably stiffer than the other?

Thanks, I have gotten the itch to change things up in my fleet (of two, 
really not a fleet at all) and since test rides are out of the question 
looking to the group for advice/opinion.

thanks, Dan in the deep freeze of winter in Mount Horeb, WI

ps. I have a canti-Rom, looking at a first-gen green Sam

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[RBW] WTB: 50 cm Roadini / curious about sizing down

[Chasen Smith]

Hi all, looking for a 50 roadini or maybe just something similar 

I have a Gus and a stumpjumper that i love, but over Christmas i rode my 
partner’s dad’s ~20lb early 00’s trek and got bit by the lightweight bug.

Tempted by the 47s they have on the site. I’m 5’8, 79 pbh. I’m worried id 
be a little too folded up running drop bars and a dirt drop stem. If anyone 
has experience with sizing down in this frame lmk!


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[RBW] Re: Clem for bikepacking?

[DamonLee]

Hello, curious about your height and PBH given the saddle hieght displayed 
here, is this a 59cm frame? great set up btw!
Damon

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 4:38:35 AM UTC+11 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here's another example from a mate who put me on to Clem L and is the 
> top-ranking Clem L enjoyer in Los Angeles.
>
> On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 9:08:18 AM UTC-8 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> As much as I think rackless systems are neato, and it's easy to run 
>> pannier free with the many bag manufacturers now in fair weather and s240 
>> style camping. I absolutely love the look of low rider racks and good set 
>> of panniers which are great except for lots of bumpy roads and narrow 
>> single track. 
>>
>> On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 9:51:17 AM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here's how I loaded my Clem L for seven or so days on the road (OAK - 
>>> SLO, very slow). I regret not having a rack for panniers; it was a pain 
>>> digging around and packing the Nelson longflaps with not enough room for my 
>>> gear. Having more bags would have helped spreading items out for easy 
>>> access and packing. In any case, Clem L handles really well while carrying 
>>> gear and feels acceptably "fast" for multi day touring.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 9:56:36 AM UTC-8 meti...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I certainly plan to pack my new Clem L for camping! 

 Long ago I spent weeks in Europe (on several different trips) on a 
 packed-out Motobecane Grand Touring bike with skinny little tires. I added 
 a temporary Blackburn rear rack, slapped some panniers on it, threw some 
 sort of front-bar bag on the handlebars, and despite tons of flats (we 
 eventually stuck to the roads rather than gravel trails), the bike did 
 fine 
 and we had a blast. I’m sure it wasn’t pretty, but it was wonderful, and 
 now I can flip a bike over and whip out a tube change like nobody’s 
 business. 

 (I’ve traveled a number of the Adventure Cycling Association routes the 
 same way, too, Jeff, and it was so much fun to see how other bicyclists 
 handled their gear. We can complicate the most simple experiences, and I 
 want to be more like those easy travelers…they make me laugh)

 Anything will work, if you let it. :) Have fun on your bike-camping 
 trips.

 Liz


 On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 11:53:35 AM UTC-5 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> I agree with John G: pretty much any bike can be used for 
> cyclotouring/bikepacking.  I don't have a Clem (I have a Rambouillet), 
> but 
> Grant designs framesets with strength and reliability in mind.  It is 
> steel, so absolutely, it should be fine.
>
> If you ever have a chance to visit Adventure Cycling Association's 
> (ACA) HQ in Missoula, MT, you can see many of the original rigs that were 
> used.  Absolutely fascinating.  They just took what was available and 
> invented solutions.  Those folks were animals, too: you gotta check out 
> the 
> tall gearing they had.  At the same time, they were young and in the 
> prime 
> of their lives.
>
> Fast forward to 2022: there are so many gadgets now to enable one to 
> attach something to your frame and fork.  Check out Bikepacking.com 
>  for a complete rundown.  They have a 
> wealth of information.  Be careful though: it is a true rabbit hole.  
> It's 
> like going to REI.  You just keep buying stuff!  
>
> In 2017 we used (because they were one of the first to market) King 
> Cage USBs (Universal Support Bolts).  Extremely handy and strong.  We 
> used 
> sets of them to support King Cage Manything Cages on our forks for the 
> Great Divide.  They were truly tested: because we could be cycling 
> through 
> areas with no water sources for our water purifier, we carried 3-liter 
> containers of water.  Note: there are now several solutions out there in 
> addition to the King Cage USB.
>
> Enjoy and have fun!
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA 
>
> P.S.: Voile straps are your friend!!
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:47:22 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Wondering if there are any Clem L owners here using their rig  for 
>> bikepacking excursions? Seems like an ideal platform in spite of having 
>> no 
>> space for a framebag nor fork mounted braze ons for anything or similar 
>> cages. I am thinking of front and rear mimimalist racks from Tumbleweed 
>> as 
>> they include the anything / manything cage mounts. Curious what others 
>> might be doing?
>
>

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[RBW] Bars and stems for sale

[Isaiah Kramer]

Im clearing out my hoard of bars

Drop Bars
Nitto 44cm noodle, beat up, 40 plus ship
nitto 42cm mod 165, 40 plus ship
Crust towel rack old version deep drops. narrowest version about 52cm at 
hoods, 62cm at drops. 100 plus ship.

swept bars
MAP Ahearne 57cm beat up with scratches 30 plus ship
Sycip 66cm jj bar 31.8 clamp, fits road brake levers only. some wear. 60 
plus ship
Jones bar 71cm, good condition. 80 plus ship
curve titanium 750mm bar 31.8. nearly new. 100 plus shop
simworks rambler 710mm, good condition, some wear on clamp. 120 plus ship

stems
Velo orange 26.0 90mm some rust at bolt, 25 plus ship
velo orange 31.8 removable faceplate 100mm 50 plus ship
Nitto fillet brazed 110mm 25.4 removable faceplate, unused, 100 plus ship

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[RBW] 64cm Clem "Reach"

[DamonLee]

Hello all,

I was wondering if anyone who owns a 64cm Clem L could attempt to provide a 
reach measurement of this size?
I appreciate Riv showing geometry charts as of late, but they are yet to do 
that for the Clem L model

Thanks in Advance

DTL

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[RBW] any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[jeff dobie]

thinking of replacing my Tektro Oryx's (because the sux) with some 980's. 
Like to see how they look in the real world..

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[RBW] Re: Platypus questions

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Doug,

My PBH is a little higher than yours.  I just got a new Platypus, well last 
Fall, and followed Riv's advice in getting the 60cm size along with pretty 
long reach Nitto Loscoe handlebars.  Looks like the photos here: 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/frame-platypus-2021

My experience is that I sometimes step through to get on the bike, but it 
is sorta hard to do that think where you take your leg as you are about to 
dismount while riding and slide it through in front of you to get both feet 
on the ground.the gap .  The frame is just a bit too high for that.  I 
compare that to my first generation Xtracycle long tail, where I have to 
dismount that way because if I swing my leg around I would kick my kid or 
any cargo quite inelegantly.  

As for mounting the bike, or getting off once stopped, there is still an 
extra bit of leg lifting to do.  So I think Kim is onto something here with 
the Clem.

Steve Seelig, Wash, DC

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 PM UTC-5 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Doug! Although not platypuss, I have clem L in both 59cm and 52cm if 
> you want to take a test ride. Holler at me, I'm in the Valley.
> - Matt
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 5:08:01 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the response, Kim. Really, any Rivendell step thru is an 
>> option. I don't do any trail riding so the Platypus is sufficient & I'm 
>> guessing will have a softer ride than one of the more trail capable frames. 
>> A major factor will be what's available, and with Riv's current delivery 
>> program one has to be ready to make a decision & commit on short notice. 
>>
>> doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> With the purchase of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, it was the best 
>>> option for me in choosing a bicycle with a step-through frame with an 
>>> upright riding position as a senior cyclist. Yes, I had trouble swinging my 
>>> right leg over the back end of my previous bike, as well.  I have been 
>>> looking for these requirements in a bike for quite a few years.  
>>> Furthermore, I enjoy the Clem's capabilities as being a ATB. A very solid 
>>> and sure-footed bike. 
>>>
>>> The Clem maybe an option for you ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
 I love my Atlantis, but it's getting harder to swing the old leg over 
 the saddle. Time to move on to a step thru. The Platypus looks like the 
 best option for my riding, mostly short trips around town. 

 The 55 cm fits my PBH (84) & saddle height. What I'm interested in 
 doing is comparing the geometry to my 58 cm Toyo Atlantis. Specifically, 
 I'm curious about the distance of the seat from the bars. I seem to be 
 shrinking in my old age & the reach on the Atlantis is just a bit too far. 
 Not unridable but a noticeable stretch, even with a short stem & swept 
 back 
 bars.

 Let me know if you may be of assistance. Be forewarned I'll probably 
 think of some more questions if this looks promising. It would be 
 fantastic 
 is you're in southern California.

 Doug Peterson 
  

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus questions

[Max Murray]

Hey Doug,

I have a 55cm Platypus with some Tosco bars. I am in Orange County. If you 
ever want to take a test ride and see how the reach is shoot me an email. 

Max

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:26:37 PM UTC-8 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Doug! Although not platypuss, I have clem L in both 59cm and 52cm if 
> you want to take a test ride. Holler at me, I'm in the Valley.
> - Matt
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 5:08:01 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the response, Kim. Really, any Rivendell step thru is an 
>> option. I don't do any trail riding so the Platypus is sufficient & I'm 
>> guessing will have a softer ride than one of the more trail capable frames. 
>> A major factor will be what's available, and with Riv's current delivery 
>> program one has to be ready to make a decision & commit on short notice. 
>>
>> doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> With the purchase of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, it was the best 
>>> option for me in choosing a bicycle with a step-through frame with an 
>>> upright riding position as a senior cyclist. Yes, I had trouble swinging my 
>>> right leg over the back end of my previous bike, as well.  I have been 
>>> looking for these requirements in a bike for quite a few years.  
>>> Furthermore, I enjoy the Clem's capabilities as being a ATB. A very solid 
>>> and sure-footed bike. 
>>>
>>> The Clem maybe an option for you ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
 I love my Atlantis, but it's getting harder to swing the old leg over 
 the saddle. Time to move on to a step thru. The Platypus looks like the 
 best option for my riding, mostly short trips around town. 

 The 55 cm fits my PBH (84) & saddle height. What I'm interested in 
 doing is comparing the geometry to my 58 cm Toyo Atlantis. Specifically, 
 I'm curious about the distance of the seat from the bars. I seem to be 
 shrinking in my old age & the reach on the Atlantis is just a bit too far. 
 Not unridable but a noticeable stretch, even with a short stem & swept 
 back 
 bars.

 Let me know if you may be of assistance. Be forewarned I'll probably 
 think of some more questions if this looks promising. It would be 
 fantastic 
 is you're in southern California.

 Doug Peterson 
  

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus questions

[chintan jadwani]

Hi Doug

Whats your current stem and handlebar setup? I think the platypus will have 
a longer reach than your Atlantis but you can get the bars closer with the 
Bosco/tosco handlebars (i think they come back 10 inches from the stem 
clamp). Another way to make the reach easier is to get your handlebars 
higher :) see https://www.rivbike.com/pages/the-top-tube-ruse

Good luck!

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:32:04 AM UTC+5:30 krhe...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Richard...
>
> I highly praise your words of explaining your love and appreciation for 
> your 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle from the design to the specific 
> details that makes the Clems' so wonderful to ride. 
>
> Thank-you.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
> ... it is time to go ride tomorrow.
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 11:24:21 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I am no bike geometry expert & I’ve really only ridden one Rivendell, my 
>> size 52 Clem “L”. I am not counting my size 57 Gus as I’ve only ridden it 
>> (sans brakes) down the street to check fit. It has a lot in common with the 
>> Clem, obviously.
>> I think there is a lot more to this design formula than designing around 
>> really setback bars like the Bosco. I don’t think it is accidental that 
>> these bikes feel so “roomy” and unbelievably comfortable. The long stays & 
>> resulting wheelbase are a big part of the comfort but it’s the front end 
>> that really gets my attention. That front wheel is WAY out there 
>> eliminating any possibility of pedal overlap even with one’s feet (like 
>> mine) slid forward to the mid foot position. The flat part of the bar is 
>> also way out there especially on my bike with a 135 length stem. Of course 
>> the extreme backsweep makes it all work but the end result is this 
>> incredibly roomy cockpit. It’s one of my favorite things about these bikes 
>> and it has ruined me for any bike that puts the bars & front wheel closer 
>> to me. YRMV.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>> From what I have seen pretty much every Rivendell has a longer reach 
>> these days vs the Toyo days because they are designed around sweptback 
>> bars. Which I am always a little confused by because you want to get the 
>> bars closer but you have to extend the reach through geometry or long stems 
>> to do it. Seems like the end result is usually the same. But yeah...I would 
>> bet the Platy has a longer reach than a Toyo Atlantis. I know my Clem L is 
>> way out there. I keep a short stem on it with Toscos to get it where it 
>> works for me.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 12:17:15 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doug — If you haven't yet I'd recommend calling Rivendell, someone 
>>> there would be happy to talk to you about the differences in the frames. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 PM UTC-5 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi Doug! Although not platypuss, I have clem L in both 59cm and 52cm if 
 you want to take a test ride. Holler at me, I'm in the Valley.
 - Matt
 On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 5:08:01 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> Thanks for the response, Kim. Really, any Rivendell step thru is an 
> option. I don't do any trail riding so the Platypus is sufficient & I'm 
> guessing will have a softer ride than one of the more trail capable 
> frames. 
> A major factor will be what's available, and with Riv's current delivery 
> program one has to be ready to make a decision & commit on short notice. 
>
> doug
>
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> With the purchase of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, it was the best 
>> option for me in choosing a bicycle with a step-through frame with an 
>> upright riding position as a senior cyclist. Yes, I had trouble swinging 
>> my 
>> right leg over the back end of my previous bike, as well.  I have been 
>> looking for these requirements in a bike for quite a few years.  
>> Furthermore, I enjoy the Clem's capabilities as being a ATB. A very 
>> solid 
>> and sure-footed bike. 
>>
>> The Clem maybe an option for you ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> I love my Atlantis, but it's getting harder to swing the old leg 
>>> over the saddle. Time to move on to a step thru. The Platypus looks 
>>> like 
>>> the best option for my riding, mostly short trips around town. 
>>>
>>> The 55 cm fits my PBH (84) & saddle height. What I'm interested in 
>>> doing is comparing the geometry to my 58 cm Toyo Atlantis. 
>>> Specifically, 
>>> I'm curious about the distance of the seat from the bars. I seem to be 
>>> shrinking in my old age & the reach on the Atlantis is just a bit too 
>>> far. 

[RBW] Re: Single-Bolt Stem Spreading Options

[Brian Forsee]

In typical fashion for me, my bars arrived and I had not yet made a move on 
purchasing a stem-spreading device. Eager to install them, I dug around my 
tool bins. Drawing inspiration from Bill's recommendation of the park disc 
tool, I used a short and wide wood chisel with a rag over it to spread the 
stem. It worked quite well! I don't think I did any damage to the chisel, 
however this approach is probably not ideal if you are exceptionally 
particular about the edges on your chisels. Cheers!

Brian

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:45:12 PM UTC-6 Brian Forsee wrote:

> Thanks to all for the ideas! The snap ring pliers and the disc brake tool 
> both seem like great options and I am far from adverse to buying new tools.
>
> Brian
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 5:52:38 PM UTC-6 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002INOFSA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>>
>> Powerbuilt Internal Snap Ring Pliers
>>
>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:25:51 AM UTC-8 MTR wrote:
>>
>>> Throw some masking tape over a flat head or whatever you use to spread 
>>> the stem to prevent scratches. I didn’t find the towel rack bars tight to 
>>> get on a nitto dirt drop stem, but your experience may vary. 
>>>
>>> Best, 
>>> Morgan 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 5:27:37 PM UTC-5 bmfo...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've got some towel rack drop bars on the way to me that will be going 
 on my newly acquired AHH. I was planning on picking up one of the tools 
 nitto makes specifically for spreading single-bolt stems but Crust was out 
 of stock. I've installed plenty of bars using the ole flat head method, 
 which always works, but i usually end up with a scratch or two. Anybody 
 got 
 any good alternative methods I'm not thinking of?

 Thanks!
 -Brian

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on film

[Shoji Takahashi]

Great colors-- something special about film. 

Speaking of colors, I love that color on the Atlantis.

Shoji
Arlington MA

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:46:45 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dang, Jamin, these are great. I especially like that pic of your Homer in 
> shadow with the mountains in the sun. Really good! 
>
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 8:17:57 PM UTC-5 jamin orrall wrote:
>
>> Accidentally posted this to ibob so I'm moving it here! (pretty Rivendell 
>> specific)
>>
>> Got a roll of film back yesterday and it had several shots of my 
>> bikes/rides! I thought ya'll might enjoy! Feel free to post any recent 
>> Rivendell film shots if you have some.
>>
>> Taken with a Nikon FE on Kodak portra film.   Still learning how to use 
>> an slr and it's kinda heavy/bulky but I got inspired by all those RSF 
>> riders with big honkin cameras slung across their backs.
>>
>> Jamin
>>
>> [image: 05810033 Large.jpeg]
>> [image: 05810029 Large.jpeg][image: 05810023 Large.jpeg][image: 
>> 05810020 Large.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: 05810008 Large.jpeg][image: 05810007 Large.jpeg]
>> [image: 05810015 Large.jpeg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roaduno catnip

[dane...@gmail.com]

Nice. Cool bike.

-Dan
NJ

On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 10:00:14 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> Depends on your body proportions. I have a long torso so my long bikes do 
> not have swept back bars. My main ride last year was a Rivendell Mystery 
> Bike single speed[image: EG2s.jpg], but as you can see in the photo - 
> hills are pretty non-existent here.
>
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:54:30 AM UTC-5 dane...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It seems this bike will be stickin with the longer chain stay/longer 
>> front end for swept bars style of things.  Has anyone ridden that type of 
>> Rivendell single speed often?  I'm curious what it feels like to do a lot 
>> of out of the saddle climbing in a hilly area.  
>>
>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:00:56 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Keep in mind that, at some point after Grant revealed that purple/orange 
>>> one, Will said that it was basically irrelevant because they were making so 
>>> many changes.  
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 1:23:26 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Doug. I think that was the only blug post that I didn't look 
 at the other day.

 JohnS

 On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I want one with Bullmoose bars and cantilevers, in purple of course. 
> Need is a different matter...
>
> Laing
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:03:07 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> John,
>> There is one on the linked blog below. You'll need to scroll a bit to 
>> find the photo. Note that the fork is mismatched. 
>> Blog 
>> 
>> Doug
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:50:53 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Does any one have a link to a picture of a fully built Roaduno? I 
>>> was looking for one the other day and the closest I could find was the 
>>> pics 
>>> of the three frames without paint. 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:34:41 AM UTC-5 mark e wrote:
>>>
 I am excited to see the Uno in purple. 

 On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 6:13:09 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:

> From Will's email update today:
> September: Roaduno complete and frames (lime-olive, purple and 
> dark gold).
>
> That's good news!
>
> Roaduno dreaming,
>
> Edwin
>


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[RBW] Re: Roaduno catnip

[dane...@gmail.com]

It seems this bike will be stickin with the longer chain stay/longer front 
end for swept bars style of things.  Has anyone ridden that type of 
Rivendell single speed often?  I'm curious what it feels like to do a lot 
of out of the saddle climbing in a hilly area.  

On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:00:56 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Keep in mind that, at some point after Grant revealed that purple/orange 
> one, Will said that it was basically irrelevant because they were making so 
> many changes.  
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 1:23:26 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Doug. I think that was the only blug post that I didn't look at 
>> the other day.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I want one with Bullmoose bars and cantilevers, in purple of course. 
>>> Need is a different matter...
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 11:03:07 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 John,
 There is one on the linked blog below. You'll need to scroll a bit to 
 find the photo. Note that the fork is mismatched. 
 Blog 
 
 Doug
 On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:50:53 AM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:

> Does any one have a link to a picture of a fully built Roaduno? I was 
> looking for one the other day and the closest I could find was the pics 
> of 
> the three frames without paint. 
>
> Thanks!
> JohnS
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 9:34:41 AM UTC-5 mark e wrote:
>
>> I am excited to see the Uno in purple. 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 6:13:09 PM UTC-5 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> From Will's email update today:
>>> September: Roaduno complete and frames (lime-olive, purple and dark 
>>> gold).
>>>
>>> That's good news!
>>>
>>> Roaduno dreaming,
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivs on film

[Eric Marth]

Dang, Jamin, these are great. I especially like that pic of your Homer in 
shadow with the mountains in the sun. Really good! 

On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 8:17:57 PM UTC-5 jamin orrall wrote:

> Accidentally posted this to ibob so I'm moving it here! (pretty Rivendell 
> specific)
>
> Got a roll of film back yesterday and it had several shots of my 
> bikes/rides! I thought ya'll might enjoy! Feel free to post any recent 
> Rivendell film shots if you have some.
>
> Taken with a Nikon FE on Kodak portra film.   Still learning how to use an 
> slr and it's kinda heavy/bulky but I got inspired by all those RSF riders 
> with big honkin cameras slung across their backs.
>
> Jamin
>
> [image: 05810033 Large.jpeg]
> [image: 05810029 Large.jpeg][image: 05810023 Large.jpeg][image: 
> 05810020 Large.jpeg]
>
> [image: 05810008 Large.jpeg][image: 05810007 Large.jpeg]
> [image: 05810015 Large.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: English subtitles for Blue Lug's video

[Masa]

Eric,

That's right! It's helpful to see the differences of the Rivendell bikes 
not only from the divisions (Hilli bike, roadish etc) but also the 
gradation (Thick to Slim).

Masa

2023年2月8日水曜日 1:20:59 UTC+9 eric...@gmail.com:

> I really appreciate Blue Lug's designations of frames falling between 
> "Thick-Riv" and "Slim-Riv" and hope to see more of that used around here :) 
>
> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 7:24:15 AM UTC-5 Masa wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Thank you for your reply. It sounds like you had a nice Sunday morning!
>> I agree with you that Rivendell's own model descriptions could confuse 
>> someone new to Rivendell like I was.
>> It's helpful that Blue Lug describes the models from an objective 
>> perspective to understand the differences and similarities.
>> I'm glad that you enjoyed their video with the subtitles!
>>
>> Masa
>> 2023年2月5日日曜日 23:57:36 UTC+9 J J:
>>
>>> Masa, I want to extend my gratitude for your translation and subtitle 
>>> effort. I enjoyed watching the video with my Sunday morning coffee. It was 
>>> great to hear the discussion of Rivendell model similarities and 
>>> differences. I think the video would be extremely helpful for someone new 
>>> to Rivendell who might get overwhelmed by Rivendell’s own model 
>>> descriptions. Thank you again, and thank you Blue Lug!!
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 2:35:10 AM UTC-5 Masa wrote:
>>>
 Slin,

 I'm glad that you enjoyed watching the video!
 I liked the blog post you shared very much as well. It's been always 
 fun to read his blog posts.

 Get some nice healing on your Clem and have a nice weekend:)

 Masa
 2023年2月5日日曜日 3:00:27 UTC+9 Slin:

> Masa - Thanks for making the subtitles! My favorite part was also the 
> 'healing' part too.
>
> Earlier in the video they mention when they first became Riv Dealers 
> they felt like they had to learn how to build up Riv's (and they sure 
> did!). It reminded me of one of Blue Lug's recent blog posts breaking 
> down 
> how they wrap handlebar grips on Riv's, the 'Grant Wrap'
>
> There's some great cockpit detail shots here:
> https://bluelug.com/blog/kamiuma/137628/
>
> - Slin 
> Now off to get some healing on my Clem! Speaking of which, I also had 
> my idea of where a Clem fit change a lot over the years too.
>
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:50:18 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for your warm replies!
>> I'm happy that I could help you to enjoy watching the video better. 
>> It was a really fun project for me as well!
>>
>> Tom, I'm going to watch "Cycle Around Japan"! I didn't know that.
>>
>> Al, yeah that part was funny wasn't it? I'm glad that I could 
>> translate the nuance of that part!
>>
>> Leah, I really admire that your son self studies Japanese! Actually 
>> my profession is teaching Japanese so I know that sometimes it could be 
>> tough to study it for some learners. The word was perfect so please tell 
>> him that どういたしまして (you are welcome) and がんばってください (best wishes) for me :)
>>
>> Masa
>>
>> 2023年2月4日土曜日 11:07:15 UTC+9 Al in SF:
>>
>>> Masa,
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for these translations! The bit about the 
>>> Hillborne having healing properties at 59:15 cracked me up.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 4:26:58 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>>>
 Hello all!

 This is my first post of 2023, I hope you are having good rides!

 Last month I happened to have an opportunity to make subtitles for 
 Blue Lug’s YouTube channel and now the “Rivendell Chart” video is 
 English 
 subtitled!

 Let me tell you how it happened. First of all, When I finished 
 watching the video I felt that “oh this video should be shared with 
 English 
 speaking Rivendell fans(means this "RBW Owners Bunch) too” so I 
 started 
 translating the video briefly.

 Then I found someone commented that “Subtitles please!” and Blue 
 Lug replied “we’d love to but at the moment we are too busy so we need 
 a 
 help”. I thought that “why don’t I do that?”

 It took me a week to complete subtitling between my work, playing 
 with my baby, feeding my baby, putting my baby to sleep, sleeping with 
 my 
 baby, chatting with my wife and commuting by my Platypus.

 It was a really fun work to do related to not only the things I’m 
 passionate about which are languages and bicycles but also favourite 
 people 
 who are Rivendell and Blue Lug!

 I would be very happy that if I could be a help for Rivendell and 
 Blue Lug. Ultimately I hope people who watch the subtitled video will