[RBW] Re: New build: 1985 Bridgestone MB-2

[Eric Marth]

Thank you, Jose :) 

>From what I recall Grant was fairly new at Bridgestone when the '85s came 
out. Sometime in 2022 I read an account written by Grant about when he 
first influenced any of the bike design or specifications and when he 
designed his first frames but I can't recall the dates or where I read 
this. Probably in a Blahg. 

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 12:19:51 PM UTC-5 Jose wrote:

> Amazing build! Did Grant P design the 1985 MB-1 and MB-2? 
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 3:06:27 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 00 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> Hi all — I just finished up a build, it's a 1985 Bridgestone MB-2. I have 
>> a full build video up over here: https://youtu.be/gJPnbpzjbKg
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 01 Complete.jpg]
>>
>> I purchased the bike as a complete from Marketplace, it was stock but for 
>> the saddle and tires. Everything was removed and I passed the frame over to 
>> Rob Gassie at Bing Bicycles. He added some rack mounts to the fork and seat 
>> stays, changes some the cable guides, added a third bottle boss to the 
>> downtube and two additional bottle bosses to the underside. He also 
>> stripped the frame to raw steel. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S 02 Headbadge.jpg]
>>
>> Instead of paint I went for a raw finish. There are two applications of 
>> patination acids, with and without heat, followed by clear lacquer and wax. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Rear mech.jpg]
>>
>> It's built up with a mix of parts from across time, all silver. 
>> De-anodized some black Paul cantilevers and also de-anodized an XTR 
>> RD-M952. Dead stock WTB grease guard headset purchased from Jacque Phelan. 
>> Lots of Suntour, some TA cranks and modern parts from Japan. Crust x Nitto 
>> Shaka bars, MKS bear trap pedals, Nitto cable hanger. 
>>
>> [image: MB-2 230115 S Downtube.jpg]
>>
>> I had some custom brass headbadges made with the old Bridgestone logo 
>> which I shaped and finished. 
>>
>> [image: MB2 09 SM Head tube.jpg]
>>
>> Velocity Atlas 26" wheelset with a Kasai dynamo hub up front and an XTR 
>> M900 in the rear. Front wheel by Rich at Rivendell, rear built by Andre at 
>> my local bike shop. I'm running Rene Herse extra-light tires with a Rat 
>> Trap Pass in the back and a Humptulips Ridge in front. 
>>
>> Many thanks to members here for helping out with parts when I needed 
>> them: Trevor B., Dave H., Liz S. and Patrick M. 
>>
>> • Velocity Atlas 26" 32/32 wheelset
>> • Rene Herse Antelope Hill, extra light
>> • Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass, extra light
>> • Shimano XTR M900 rear hub
>> • Kasai 32H front hub
>> • Schmidt Edelux II polished headlight
>> • Busch + Müller light mount
>> • Crust x Nitto Shaka handlebars, 54cm
>> • Newbaum's cotton bar tape, white
>> • Suntour Bar-Con shifters
>> • Suntour Superbe levers
>> • Paul Neo Retro cantilever brakes, front
>> • Paul Touring cantilever brakes, rear
>> • Hunter Nugz barrel adjusters
>> • Dia Compe yoke hangers
>> • Fairweather x Nitto stem-mounted cable hanger
>> • Nitto Technomic 6cm stem, 26.0 clamp 
>> • WTB New Paradigm Grease Guard headset 
>> • TA Specialities Cyclotourist crankset, 48/42/28, 170mm 
>> • Shimano 115mm square taper bottom bracket 
>> • Shimano 9 speed 12-36 cassette
>> • MKS XC-III pedals
>> • Suntour AR front derailer
>> • Shimano XTR MD-952 rear derailer 
>> • Suntour XC Pro seat post 
>> • Brooks Conquest saddle
>> • Wheels Mfg. brass housing ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brass cable ferrules
>> • Sim Works x Nissen brake and shift housing 
>> • Sim Works x Hoshi
>> • M5 brass socket head screws
>> • Shovel Research M5 brass slotted screws
>>
>> Larger pictures here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_gXuRvwsKYVjG7GLMqFf2KGhPrYRNlp3/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> Thanks for lookin'! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv shirts

[Edwin W]

All gone. Thanks.

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 2:34:27 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:

> Red Rockmount available again. $40 shipped
> Like new
> Pictures here 
> 
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 9:42:24 AM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> SOLD Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
>> SOLD Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise good 
>> $30
>> Going to keep for now Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: 
>> collar slightly darkened $30 (bought from Riv)
>> SOLD Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought 
>> from Rockmount)
>>
>> Thanks all!
>>
>> Edwin
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 1:08:04 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> Update:
>>> SOLD Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
>>> SOLD Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise 
>>> good $30
>>> Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: collar slightly darkened 
>>> $30 (bought from Riv)
>>> Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought from 
>>> Rockmount)
>>>
>>> Pictures here 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 4:28:02 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:
>>>
 Thinning out my closet:
 Prices include shipping, discount for Nashville pickup.
 Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
 Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise good $30
 Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: collar slightly 
 darkened $30 (bought from Riv)
 Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought from 
 Rockmount)

 Pictures here 
 

 Buy the lot $110 shipped. 

 OBO of course,

 Edwin in Nashville

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv shirts

[Edwin W]

Red Rockmount available again. $40 shipped
Like new
Pictures here 



On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 9:42:24 AM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:

> SOLD Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
> SOLD Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise good 
> $30
> Going to keep for now Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: 
> collar slightly darkened $30 (bought from Riv)
> SOLD Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought from 
> Rockmount)
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Edwin
> 
>
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 1:08:04 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> Update:
>> SOLD Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
>> SOLD Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise good 
>> $30
>> Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: collar slightly darkened 
>> $30 (bought from Riv)
>> Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought from 
>> Rockmount)
>>
>> Pictures here 
>> 
>>
>> Edwin
>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 4:28:02 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> Thinning out my closet:
>>> Prices include shipping, discount for Nashville pickup.
>>> Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
>>> Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise good $30
>>> Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: collar slightly darkened 
>>> $30 (bought from Riv)
>>> Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought from 
>>> Rockmount)
>>>
>>> Pictures here 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Buy the lot $110 shipped. 
>>>
>>> OBO of course,
>>>
>>> Edwin in Nashville
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Proper(?) fitting of a Bosco or similar handlebar & Nitto V5 stem

[Mackenzy Albright]

I've found boscos to be very lenient with their "fitting". The only time I 
haven't liked them is when they are way  too close. I have yet to have them 
too far. I find the bar tilt also drastically effects the reach - if that 
is a thing of concern. 

I absolutely love the looks of the V-5 stem. On the bike's I've seen with 
boscos/loscos and V5's installed I haven't taken much notice. Could always 
"riv it up" and wrap it with some cotton tape and twine. I haven't had 
issues with a faceplate chromoly stem and loscos but imagine it'd give the 
confidence of the boscomoose. 

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 5:56:35 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Two separate questions. Regarding the Bosco; I am curious how others 
> approach the Bosco from a fit perspective. I love mine on my Clem. Its a 
> 540 wide and came with a 135 FacePlater. Mine is positioned with the tips 
> between 2"-3" above the saddle nose. With the 135 stem those tips come back 
> perhaps not as far as most folks? When pedaling, the tips do not come back 
> far enough to cross an imaginary line between my knee caps. Turning the bar 
> the tips do cross this line but the bars are high enough to pass over the 
> knees - no contact. I fiddled with this a lot when I got the bike and the 
> way I have it really works well for me. I am just curious how other folks 
> have these handlebars set up particularly on a Gus / Susie? Thanks in 
> advance for sharing.
> Regarding the V--5 stem, I just really like it & am considering using one 
> on my Gus. Any drawbacks? From a purely aesthetic perspective it kind of 
> bothers me that the knurled center portion of the bar is exposed. A minor 
> thing I know...
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS SRAM Rival 2x10 shifters and GX long cage derailleur

[Michael Ullmer]

If anyone else is looking for a pair of Rival 2x10 Brifters, I've got a 
pair I'm planning to decommission when I switch to bar ends. Looking to get 
$75 net to me for them. I can send pics to anyone interested.

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 1:01:35 PM UTC-6 Alex Wirth wrote:

> Gone, thanks all!!
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 11:38 AM Alex Wirth <482...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Will! Responded
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:57:11 AM UTC-5 wboe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> PMed.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:14:10 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth wrote:
>>>
 FYI if you reply in the thread gmail sometimes pushes your message to 
 my spam folder.

 Might be best to reply in the thread AND send me a separate email 
 directly to this email just in case.

 Cheers

 On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:12:02 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth wrote:

> Hi All,
> I had these set aside for a drop bar conversion but decided against 
> it.  
>
> $125 shipped conus takes the pair (Shifters and Derailleur)
>
> Both new and unused
>
> Paypal f, venmo, cashapp, if you prefer a goods and services payment 
> add 3.5% please.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Alex Wirth
> Rochester, NY
>
>
> [image: IMG-6510.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

[Joe Mullins]

Ben is a great guy and a fun riding partner. We've ridden together many 
times with this bike and I can say $1500 sounds like a steal to me. I hope 
someone can give it a good home!

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:02:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> This is one of my favorite bikes. I am 6 ft, 85 PBH and also roads a 55 
> Sam. This size fit me perfect. Hope someone buys it soon.
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:51:47 PM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Everyone! 
>> This is still for sale. I've had some serious lookers, but no takers.
>> $1,500 plus shipping?
>> I need a new computer ;)
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ben
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:28:45 PM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Good to know, thanks!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:59:44 AM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
 bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
 of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
 the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem would 
 move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!

 Cheers!
 Ben


 On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:

> Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
> A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars 
> thru a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required 
> an 
> open face stem due to the abrupt curves.
> Thanks,
> Alan in NYC
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
>> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat 
>> tube) 
>> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think 
>> Grant 
>> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
>> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
>> and shapes of riders. 
>>
>> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso 
>> for my height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the 
>> need for a custom for 20 years. 
>>
>> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
>> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
>> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't 
>> at 
>> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for 
>> my 
>> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. 
>> Brands 
>> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
>> choices.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
>>> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short 
>>> legs  
>>> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up 
>>> paint 
>>> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and 
>>> it 
>>> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
>>> appropriate wear. 
>>>
>>> The Rundown: 
>>>
>>>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>>>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>>>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>>>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>>>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>>>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>>>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto 
>>>Noodle bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>>>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I 
>>>also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>>>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur 
>>>hanger extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not 
>>> quite as 
>>>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>>>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will 
>>>include.
>>>
>>>
>>> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, 
>>> but I can ship to a loving home.
>>>
>>> Photos: 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>>>
>>>  
>>> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
>>> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The 
>>> ride is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was 
>>> able 
>>> to make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>>>
>>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS SRAM Rival 2x10 shifters and GX long cage derailleur

[Alex Wirth]

Gone, thanks all!!

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 11:38 AM Alex Wirth <4824...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Will! Responded
>
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:57:11 AM UTC-5 wboe...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> PMed.
>>
>> Will
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:14:10 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth wrote:
>>
>>> FYI if you reply in the thread gmail sometimes pushes your message to my
>>> spam folder.
>>>
>>> Might be best to reply in the thread AND send me a separate email
>>> directly to this email just in case.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:12:02 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth wrote:
>>>
 Hi All,
 I had these set aside for a drop bar conversion but decided against
 it.

 $125 shipped conus takes the pair (Shifters and Derailleur)

 Both new and unused

 Paypal f, venmo, cashapp, if you prefer a goods and services payment
 add 3.5% please.

 Cheers!

 Alex Wirth
 Rochester, NY


 [image: IMG-6510.jpg]

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[RBW] Re: FS SRAM Rival 2x10 shifters and GX long cage derailleur

[Alex Wirth]

Thanks Will! Responded

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:57:11 AM UTC-5 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> PMed.
>
> Will
>
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:14:10 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth wrote:
>
>> FYI if you reply in the thread gmail sometimes pushes your message to my 
>> spam folder.
>>
>> Might be best to reply in the thread AND send me a separate email 
>> directly to this email just in case.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:12:02 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I had these set aside for a drop bar conversion but decided against it.  
>>>
>>> $125 shipped conus takes the pair (Shifters and Derailleur)
>>>
>>> Both new and unused
>>>
>>> Paypal f, venmo, cashapp, if you prefer a goods and services payment 
>>> add 3.5% please.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Alex Wirth
>>> Rochester, NY
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG-6510.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS SRAM Rival 2x10 shifters and GX long cage derailleur

[Will Boericke]

PMed.

Will

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:14:10 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth wrote:

> FYI if you reply in the thread gmail sometimes pushes your message to my 
> spam folder.
>
> Might be best to reply in the thread AND send me a separate email directly 
> to this email just in case.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:12:02 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I had these set aside for a drop bar conversion but decided against it.  
>>
>> $125 shipped conus takes the pair (Shifters and Derailleur)
>>
>> Both new and unused
>>
>> Paypal f, venmo, cashapp, if you prefer a goods and services payment 
>> add 3.5% please.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Alex Wirth
>> Rochester, NY
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG-6510.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on film

[R Shannon]

Hello Drew,

Please do share an image of you and your QB loaded with your gear.
BTW, the image I was referring to is the "contrasty" - in a good way -
grove of trees.

Kind regards,
- Rich

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 6:46 PM Drew Saunders 
wrote:

> Rich,
>
> Not sure which photo with trees you're referencing. Anyway, yes, I take my
> whole 4x5 setup in my RPT ("Renaissance Photo Tech") modified Kelty
> backpack with my more or less full sized Manfrotto carbon fiber tripod
> strapped to the side. RPT made a nice system of a backboard that you
> inserted into the modified backpacks (modified with full zippers and a few
> other things), to which you attached camera or lens boxes via hook and loop
> to make the photo backpack of your needs. Sadly, the owner retired and sold
> off everything (I got a few things for sale). I don't go far with that on
> my quickbeam, no more than 3 miles each way, and I don't go fast, but it's
> essentially the same kit I would take if I put it all in the trunk of my
> car.
>
> Camera, up to 6 lenses, up to 9 holders, dark cloth, meter, loupe, tape
> measure, extra bag bellows, extra focusing screen for wide angle lenses,
> and a few other things all fit in there. It's not light, of course!
>
> I'll get a photo of me on the bike with this setup sometime.
>
> Drew
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 9:41:19 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>
>> Hi Drew,
>>
>> Nice work! I especially like the image of the trees (third one going to
>> the right). That's some quality printing! I'm impressed you're toting a 4x5
>> while riding your Quickbeam. Do you carry a small tripod for the Ebony?
>> Back in the day I used a variety of 4x5s and a very old Ansco 8x10. My last
>> 4x5 was a Deardorff, made in Chicago. With a Tiltall tripod, film holder,
>> light meter, etc. it never ocurred to me to try and fit onto a bike!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 12:19:25 PM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at my Flickr stream, I only found two photos of my Riv taken
>>> with a film camera. I thought I had done more over the years, but maybe I
>>> just haven't scanned them and put them up.
>>> https://flic.kr/p/67KheV
>>> https://flic.kr/p/67PtfS
>>>
>>> They're obviously taken one after the other, back on Pi Day of 2009. I
>>> don't recall if I had any pie that day. Anyway, I have long since sold that
>>> Fuji GA645zi medium format "monster point and shoot" (of course, I sold it
>>> before the prices exploded...grumble), but I do ride my Quickbeam when I'm
>>> taking the large format 4x5" Ebony camera out to shoot at local gardens. I
>>> just haven't yet turned the lens on the bike, maybe I will next time.
>>>
>>> That Fuji camera had a data back, so it could imprint focal length and
>>> exposure information in the gap between frames, which was quite handy.
>>>
>>> Drew
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:29:44 AM UTC-8 jamin orrall wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Eric! I appreciate all your contributions to this forum.

 Thank you Shoji, I bought the frames secondhand from 2 different
 owners. By coincidence I ended up with 2 Waterfords with custom paint that
 I did not pick but I am enjoying the colors as well, they really blend in
 with the landscape.

 On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 7:06:24 AM UTC-8 Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> Great colors-- something special about film.
>
> Speaking of colors, I love that color on the Atlantis.
>
> Shoji
> Arlington MA
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 8:46:45 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Dang, Jamin, these are great. I especially like that pic of your
>> Homer in shadow with the mountains in the sun. Really good!
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 8:17:57 PM UTC-5 jamin orrall wrote:
>>
>>> Accidentally posted this to ibob so I'm moving it here! (pretty
>>> Rivendell specific)
>>>
>>> Got a roll of film back yesterday and it had several shots of my
>>> bikes/rides! I thought ya'll might enjoy! Feel free to post any recent
>>> Rivendell film shots if you have some.
>>>
>>> Taken with a Nikon FE on Kodak portra film.   Still learning how to
>>> use an slr and it's kinda heavy/bulky but I got inspired by all those 
>>> RSF
>>> riders with big honkin cameras slung across their backs.
>>>
>>> Jamin
>>>
>>> [image: 05810033 Large.jpeg]
>>> [image: 05810029 Large.jpeg][image: 05810023 Large.jpeg][image:
>>> 05810020 Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: 05810008 Large.jpeg][image: 05810007 Large.jpeg]
>>> [image: 05810015 Large.jpeg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[JohnS]

Nick, that's one clean Appaloosa! Did you just give it a refurb? I'm in the 
process of giving my QB one. 

JohnS

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 9:40:13 AM UTC-5 jad...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nick, I think that photo pushed me over the edge. thanks
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 10:34:44 PM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> Said brakes on my Appaloosa:
>> [image: PXL_20230214_052955146.jpg]
>>
>> Nick Payne
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv shirts

[Edwin W]

SOLD Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
SOLD Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise good 
$30
Going to keep for now Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: 
collar slightly darkened $30 (bought from Riv)
SOLD Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought from 
Rockmount)

Thanks all!

Edwin



On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 1:08:04 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:

> Update:
> SOLD Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
> SOLD Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise good 
> $30
> Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: collar slightly darkened 
> $30 (bought from Riv)
> Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought from 
> Rockmount)
>
> Pictures here 
> 
>
> Edwin
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 4:28:02 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> Thinning out my closet:
>> Prices include shipping, discount for Nashville pickup.
>> Gray Riv MUSA shirt size L: very good condition $35
>> Riv MUSA railroad shirt size L: two small oil stains, otherwise good $30
>> Rockmount blue check cowboy shirt size L: good: collar slightly darkened 
>> $30 (bought from Riv)
>> Rockmount red check cowboy shirt size L: barely used $40 (bought from 
>> Rockmount)
>>
>> Pictures here 
>> 
>>
>> Buy the lot $110 shipped. 
>>
>> OBO of course,
>>
>> Edwin in Nashville
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS SRAM Rival 2x10 shifters and GX long cage derailleur

[Alex Wirth]

FYI if you reply in the thread gmail sometimes pushes your message to my 
spam folder.

Might be best to reply in the thread AND send me a separate email directly 
to this email just in case.

Cheers

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:12:02 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth wrote:

> Hi All,
> I had these set aside for a drop bar conversion but decided against it.  
>
> $125 shipped conus takes the pair (Shifters and Derailleur)
>
> Both new and unused
>
> Paypal f, venmo, cashapp, if you prefer a goods and services payment add 
> 3.5% please.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Alex Wirth
> Rochester, NY
>
>
> [image: IMG-6510.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[jad...@gmail.com]

Nick, I think that photo pushed me over the edge. thanks

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 10:34:44 PM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:

> Said brakes on my Appaloosa:
> [image: PXL_20230214_052955146.jpg]
>
> Nick Payne
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Dick Pahle]

Thanx to all responding to my western NC post. Good to know. First..to 
Pamtook your CC class in Clt few years ago. Still benefitting from 
it. Good friend of David S who I think  is member of this group too. To 
Michaelwill keep eyes open for your father here in Brevard. At 73, 
I'm guessing I'm as old or older than him. :-) To Steve in Asheville. I 
know the areas you mention well. The hills around here can be brutal, 
especially for an old slow guy like me. 

I've ridden from my home in Brevard to the Parkway (Blue Ridge Parkway) 
once, up 276 and back down. ~ 40 miles round trip with tough elevation 
gain, especially the last few miles, before heading back down. Ever 
thankful for my super comfortable 61 Homer that Keven helped me with back 
when he was still at Riv. Great guy. 

I get the usual comments about my bike. Nice bike! How old is it? Among 
others.

Dick



On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 8:58:27 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I don't live in NC, but my sister lives in Pittsboro, and I generally make 
> it up there a couple of times a year. I will be there the 1st week of July 
> this year at a minimum.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 7:36:20 AM UTC-5 James wrote:
>
>> I'm a Riv rider in West Asheville
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:03:21 PM UTC-5 lukeheller wrote:
>>
>>> I used to ride a Riv Canti-Rom for a few years when i first started 
>>> riding brevets in 2012.
>>> No longer ride a riv but all my bikes are riv inspired. I've had several 
>>> custom frames that are spin offs from my canti-rom.
>>> I'm the local organizer for the Asheville Intl Randonneurs and live in 
>>> Asheville if anyone wants to drink the kool-aid.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:33:52 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I'm in Asheville. Not currently on a Riv but am giving one some serious 
 thought (which is why I'm on this group). I occasionally ride fire roads 
 in 
 the Pisgah starting from the Hub. Last spring I did a ride from the 
 Arboretum at Bent Creek to the Hub (still sore from that one!). Been 
 thinking Oscar Blues or Ecusta Brewing might be fun to start from and end 
 at. I'd enjoy riding with a group of Riv riders - if you'd promise not to 
 be too hard on me if I turn up on a different marque. Full disclosure; I 
 am 
 old and slow.
 On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:45:40 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I'm in Charlotte, NC.  We should plan a Riv NC ride sometime.  I'm not 
> much for climbing.
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 7:20:00 PM UTC-5 esoter...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Dick,
>>
>> I live in the flatlands of Raleigh, but my wife and I had a chance to 
>> go on a terrific gravel ride with Michael on a visit to Boone. Michael's 
>> a 
>> wonderful guy and he knows a bunch of great rides in the area. Y'all 
>> have 
>> some excellent terrain up there in western NC. If you ever find yourself 
>> near Boone, reach out to him. It's always a hoot to connect with someone 
>> on 
>> the list in person. Cheers,
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:32:23 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:
>>
>>> I ride an Atlantis in Boone. Went to high school in Brevard. My 
>>> folks still live there. You may see my dad riding an old diamond back 
>>> with 
>>> albatross bars I found in a junk pile and built up for him. He 
>>> installed an 
>>> electric assist on it! 
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> Boone, NC
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 1:36:10 PM UTC-5 Artaud wrote:
>>>
 I ride my Hillborne further East in Greensboro, but after riding 
 back home from Floyd two summers ago, I've been wanting to spend more 
 time 
 riding in the mountains.

 Denis, in NC
 Le lundi 13 février 2023 à 12:21:08 UTC-5, Dick Pahle a écrit :

> Checking to see if there are any Riv people, other than me, in the 
> Brevard NC area. I ride a 2015 AHH. 
>
> Dick
>


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[RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

[lconley]

I have 650B x 57 Schwalbe G-Ones on my Bombadil 52, but my chainstays are 
longer than the 45 shown on the chart.

Laing

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 9:08:07 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> Thanks for sending that geo chart Garth! That makes more sense.
>
> You were close! I measured my Schwalbe tires and they are 44-45mm as 
> installed on the velocity synergy rims. It's hard to gauge the true 
> clearance of the frame without actually trying the wider tire, but I think 
> 2.1 is ideal and anything beyond would be pushing it, particularly in the 
> rear - maybe I can go 2.2 or even 2.3 in the front and 2.1 in the rear. It 
> gets close as you approach the kickstand plate where the stays narrow, I'll 
> play with it some more but my guestimate is that I'll have around 60mm of 
> clearance with the wider/taller tire, so if I want at least 3mm on each 
> side, that means 2.1 is the way to go in the rear, which means the 700c UD 
> MARS Race probably won't work for me on this frame.
>
> Thanks again
> Max
>
> *All of the above is without fenders
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 1:00:57 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> Oh sheesh, now I was confused too because the linked chart is wrong. I 
>> just measure mine, and it's the same as your, 62cm c-c along the TT, 63cm 
>> effective. I never used that chart anyways, it's either a preliminary 
>> version or it's simply a misprint, I'm guessing a misprint as the ETT jump 
>> from 56 to 60 frame should be 60.5 to 63, respectively. Every geo chart 
>> ever printed by Riv, and I've kept most if not all, show the 60cm Bomba 
>> @63cm ETT. 
>>
>> As for the tire clearance, those Supremes are what, in the 46-48cm range 
>> ? Yes, there's lots of room between the stays, and on the front you can fit 
>> a 2.2 without a fender. Between the blades is 63-64mm I think, where the 
>> fender would go. The chainstays and bridge however I'm not so sure, you'd 
>> have to either apply some widened calipers to guestimate the width and how 
>> forward, or just put a mounted tire in there. How much room is enough ? 
>> Enough that you don't crash and burn if caught in a "jam" ! ((( laughing 
>> ))). 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 650b or 700 Bombadil frame question

[maxcr]

Thanks for sending that geo chart Garth! That makes more sense.

You were close! I measured my Schwalbe tires and they are 44-45mm as 
installed on the velocity synergy rims. It's hard to gauge the true 
clearance of the frame without actually trying the wider tire, but I think 
2.1 is ideal and anything beyond would be pushing it, particularly in the 
rear - maybe I can go 2.2 or even 2.3 in the front and 2.1 in the rear. It 
gets close as you approach the kickstand plate where the stays narrow, I'll 
play with it some more but my guestimate is that I'll have around 60mm of 
clearance with the wider/taller tire, so if I want at least 3mm on each 
side, that means 2.1 is the way to go in the rear, which means the 700c UD 
MARS Race probably won't work for me on this frame.

Thanks again
Max

*All of the above is without fenders

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 1:00:57 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> Oh sheesh, now I was confused too because the linked chart is wrong. I 
> just measure mine, and it's the same as your, 62cm c-c along the TT, 63cm 
> effective. I never used that chart anyways, it's either a preliminary 
> version or it's simply a misprint, I'm guessing a misprint as the ETT jump 
> from 56 to 60 frame should be 60.5 to 63, respectively. Every geo chart 
> ever printed by Riv, and I've kept most if not all, show the 60cm Bomba 
> @63cm ETT. 
>
> As for the tire clearance, those Supremes are what, in the 46-48cm range ? 
> Yes, there's lots of room between the stays, and on the front you can fit a 
> 2.2 without a fender. Between the blades is 63-64mm I think, where the 
> fender would go. The chainstays and bridge however I'm not so sure, you'd 
> have to either apply some widened calipers to guestimate the width and how 
> forward, or just put a mounted tire in there. How much room is enough ? 
> Enough that you don't crash and burn if caught in a "jam" ! ((( laughing 
> ))). 
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[lconley]

I don't live in NC, but my sister lives in Pittsboro, and I generally make 
it up there a couple of times a year. I will be there the 1st week of July 
this year at a minimum.

Laing

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 7:36:20 AM UTC-5 James wrote:

> I'm a Riv rider in West Asheville
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:03:21 PM UTC-5 lukeheller wrote:
>
>> I used to ride a Riv Canti-Rom for a few years when i first started 
>> riding brevets in 2012.
>> No longer ride a riv but all my bikes are riv inspired. I've had several 
>> custom frames that are spin offs from my canti-rom.
>> I'm the local organizer for the Asheville Intl Randonneurs and live in 
>> Asheville if anyone wants to drink the kool-aid.
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:33:52 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in Asheville. Not currently on a Riv but am giving one some serious 
>>> thought (which is why I'm on this group). I occasionally ride fire roads in 
>>> the Pisgah starting from the Hub. Last spring I did a ride from the 
>>> Arboretum at Bent Creek to the Hub (still sore from that one!). Been 
>>> thinking Oscar Blues or Ecusta Brewing might be fun to start from and end 
>>> at. I'd enjoy riding with a group of Riv riders - if you'd promise not to 
>>> be too hard on me if I turn up on a different marque. Full disclosure; I am 
>>> old and slow.
>>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:45:40 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 I'm in Charlotte, NC.  We should plan a Riv NC ride sometime.  I'm not 
 much for climbing.

 On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 7:20:00 PM UTC-5 esoter...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Dick,
>
> I live in the flatlands of Raleigh, but my wife and I had a chance to 
> go on a terrific gravel ride with Michael on a visit to Boone. Michael's 
> a 
> wonderful guy and he knows a bunch of great rides in the area. Y'all have 
> some excellent terrain up there in western NC. If you ever find yourself 
> near Boone, reach out to him. It's always a hoot to connect with someone 
> on 
> the list in person. Cheers,
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:32:23 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:
>
>> I ride an Atlantis in Boone. Went to high school in Brevard. My folks 
>> still live there. You may see my dad riding an old diamond back with 
>> albatross bars I found in a junk pile and built up for him. He installed 
>> an 
>> electric assist on it! 
>>
>> Michael
>> Boone, NC
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 1:36:10 PM UTC-5 Artaud wrote:
>>
>>> I ride my Hillborne further East in Greensboro, but after riding 
>>> back home from Floyd two summers ago, I've been wanting to spend more 
>>> time 
>>> riding in the mountains.
>>>
>>> Denis, in NC
>>> Le lundi 13 février 2023 à 12:21:08 UTC-5, Dick Pahle a écrit :
>>>
 Checking to see if there are any Riv people, other than me, in the 
 Brevard NC area. I ride a 2015 AHH. 

 Dick

>>>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Wire Guard & other various things

[James]

Anyone have a wire guard they want to sell?  
-Nitto saddlebag grip R50
-MUSA clothing, size L

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[RBW] Re: WTB Atlantis 55 cm

[Chris L]

The new 55cm, 700c Atlantis and the GBW are the two Riv's I most want to 
try.  

The Atlantis improves on my 54 Hunqapillar by having a longer top tube and 
the front wheel way out there, which I like.  I also want to try the longer 
chainstays and have no idea if I would like them, or not. 

The GBW is just a completely different animal and I would have no idea what 
to expect.  I just know I'd love to try it out.  

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 12:11:14 PM UTC-6 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
wrote:

> Here's a fine looking one: 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5611404848967902/
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:21:36 AM UTC-8 tylerj...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> In search of an Atlantis 55cm, frame or complete. Let me know what you 
>> have or potentially have access to. Thanks in advance.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto 32F Rack weight limit?

[matt miller]

I think he's referring to a post a few days ago. He has a nice set of 
images, links and prices. I'll help him out with the link: 
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/CH5S8_xA3oA

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 6:59:16 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Sean referred to a Rene Herse UD-1 rack as "listed if anyone ... is 
> interested"
>
> Does that mean it is offered for sale? Is it offered as-pictured, missing 
> all the hardware?  What's your price?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:47:50 PM UTC-8 Sean, PNW wrote:
>
>> I've a Rene Herse UD-1 rack listed if anyone searching for an adjustable 
>> and lightweight rack with a 10 kg (22 lb) weight rating is interested.
>>
>> It’s very nicely built and high quality w/adjustable struts that can fit 
>> the same mounts as a 32f.
>>
>> Rene Herse specs - 
>> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/racks/rene-herse-ud-1-disc/
>>
>> Pics - 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZN_guFpHhKwBSHXI89expGdVdYFwrZH6?usp=sharing
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 5:29:45 PM UTC-8 zac.te...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Will thanks! That's exactly what I was after. 
>>>
>>> Re: the non published weight limits/tether advice, I wonder if it's 
>>> because of failures that happened? Either way I don't plan to put a ton of 
>>> weight on it. I think it'll be alright. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 4:30:26 AM UTC-8 Will M wrote:
>>>
 @ Zac: The 32F on my Quickbeam routinely exceeds the 4.4-lb load. I'd 
 go with Analog's 15-lb limit.  As load increases, slow-speed steering 
 weirdness becomes the constraint long before one worries about rack 
 integrity.  Using archive.org, I just took a peak at 
 http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/baggage_racks/20020.html from 
 February 2006 (about the vintage of mine), and see that they did not 
 publish a weight limits nor recommend tether straps back in the day.  When 
 did published limits appear?  Anecdotally... I've walked my 4-year-old 
 (30+ 
 pounds) home from school while she sat backward on the 32F rack (I pushed 
 the bike).  And the similar VO Rando rack has a 12-pound rated limit, tho' 
 it has straight stays to the fork blade eyelets.  

 On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 4:40:54 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> Yeah, I always thought it goofy also to buy a tiny rack and then put a 
> big wire basket on top of it and expect it to be stable. Even if one does 
> it anyway, in "zac's" case with a shallow head tube frame, the 32f is 
> poor 
> choice as it has no adjustability in any way to get it close-r to the 
> head 
> tube. While a M 18 or Marks rack would offer that, more platform and 
> relative strength is called for here. The Soma/VO Porteur racks are fully 
> adjustable and there's no concern with loads. The VO includes a platform 
> fence, no cheap wire basket needed. How the bike may feel/handle, well 
> that's a separate story.
> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 7:43:54 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:
>
>> this has been discussed many times before.  in this age of 
>> litigation, nitto has always been conservative with their weight 
>> ratings, 
>> but we're all adults and have to make our own decisions.  that said, and 
>> keep in mind this comes from someone thats been running a nitto mini 
>> front 
>> for over 10 years with a basket, you can get away with more weight.  now 
>> even i would say, if your plan is to bring back 15-20 lbs of whatever 
>> often, then thats not a good idea (imo), but for occasional heavy loads, 
>> its fine.  
>>
>> my bigger issue with this combo is i think the smaller racks are not 
>> wide enough of a platform for stability to secure a basket.  i recently 
>> switched to a nitto/simworks obento rack and its been a little more 
>> stable.   
>>
>> you don't mention what bike you are planning for this, but if its a 
>> rivendell, most of them do not steer well with a heavy front load, which 
>> is 
>> another reason to keep it light.  
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 7:18:23 PM UTC-5 zac.te...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The pass and stow is nice but im going for something lighter that 
>>> hopefully sits closer to the headtube. having the load out in front of 
>>> the 
>>> axle like that feels too sloppy for me. I think im gonna try the 32f 
>>> with a 
>>> beefy strap and just not go too crazy on the load. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 11:15:05 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This is why I’ve just opted for the five rail rack from Pass & 
 Stow: 25lbs or less suggested, rated to 50lbs, and can handle 200lbs. 
 I’ll 
 *never* need all that it can offer tbh.





 On 

[RBW] Re: Homer Hilson Flatbar Setup- Brevets/PBP

[eddietheflay]

I don't have photos but all three of my previously drop bar bikes are now 
sporting Billie Bars due to my neck issues. I like the Billies as I can 
hunker down enough on the front of the bars to get more or less aero and 
switch to more upright and ride with my hands all the way back on the grips 
when I need more comfort. I don't do brevets but have done rides up to 60 
miles with the Billie Bars.

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:20:46 AM UTC-8 velo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking for subject pics and any feedback on doing long brevets on a Homer 
> w/ flat bars, Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto 32F Rack weight limit?

[Bill Lindsay]

Sean referred to a Rene Herse UD-1 rack as "listed if anyone ... is 
interested"

Does that mean it is offered for sale? Is it offered as-pictured, missing 
all the hardware?  What's your price?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:47:50 PM UTC-8 Sean, PNW wrote:

> I've a Rene Herse UD-1 rack listed if anyone searching for an adjustable 
> and lightweight rack with a 10 kg (22 lb) weight rating is interested.
>
> It’s very nicely built and high quality w/adjustable struts that can fit 
> the same mounts as a 32f.
>
> Rene Herse specs - 
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/racks/rene-herse-ud-1-disc/
>
> Pics - 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZN_guFpHhKwBSHXI89expGdVdYFwrZH6?usp=sharing
>
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 5:29:45 PM UTC-8 zac.te...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Will thanks! That's exactly what I was after. 
>>
>> Re: the non published weight limits/tether advice, I wonder if it's 
>> because of failures that happened? Either way I don't plan to put a ton of 
>> weight on it. I think it'll be alright. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 4:30:26 AM UTC-8 Will M wrote:
>>
>>> @ Zac: The 32F on my Quickbeam routinely exceeds the 4.4-lb load. I'd go 
>>> with Analog's 15-lb limit.  As load increases, slow-speed steering 
>>> weirdness becomes the constraint long before one worries about rack 
>>> integrity.  Using archive.org, I just took a peak at 
>>> http://www.rivendellbicycles.com/webalog/baggage_racks/20020.html from 
>>> February 2006 (about the vintage of mine), and see that they did not 
>>> publish a weight limits nor recommend tether straps back in the day.  When 
>>> did published limits appear?  Anecdotally... I've walked my 4-year-old (30+ 
>>> pounds) home from school while she sat backward on the 32F rack (I pushed 
>>> the bike).  And the similar VO Rando rack has a 12-pound rated limit, tho' 
>>> it has straight stays to the fork blade eyelets.  
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 4:40:54 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, I always thought it goofy also to buy a tiny rack and then put a 
 big wire basket on top of it and expect it to be stable. Even if one does 
 it anyway, in "zac's" case with a shallow head tube frame, the 32f is poor 
 choice as it has no adjustability in any way to get it close-r to the head 
 tube. While a M 18 or Marks rack would offer that, more platform and 
 relative strength is called for here. The Soma/VO Porteur racks are fully 
 adjustable and there's no concern with loads. The VO includes a platform 
 fence, no cheap wire basket needed. How the bike may feel/handle, well 
 that's a separate story.
 On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 7:43:54 PM UTC-5 Minh wrote:

> this has been discussed many times before.  in this age of litigation, 
> nitto has always been conservative with their weight ratings, but we're 
> all 
> adults and have to make our own decisions.  that said, and keep in mind 
> this comes from someone thats been running a nitto mini front for over 10 
> years with a basket, you can get away with more weight.  now even i would 
> say, if your plan is to bring back 15-20 lbs of whatever often, then 
> thats 
> not a good idea (imo), but for occasional heavy loads, its fine.  
>
> my bigger issue with this combo is i think the smaller racks are not 
> wide enough of a platform for stability to secure a basket.  i recently 
> switched to a nitto/simworks obento rack and its been a little more 
> stable.   
>
> you don't mention what bike you are planning for this, but if its a 
> rivendell, most of them do not steer well with a heavy front load, which 
> is 
> another reason to keep it light.  
>
>
> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 7:18:23 PM UTC-5 zac.te...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The pass and stow is nice but im going for something lighter that 
>> hopefully sits closer to the headtube. having the load out in front of 
>> the 
>> axle like that feels too sloppy for me. I think im gonna try the 32f 
>> with a 
>> beefy strap and just not go too crazy on the load. 
>>
>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 11:15:05 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is why I’ve just opted for the five rail rack from Pass & Stow: 
>>> 25lbs or less suggested, rated to 50lbs, and can handle 200lbs. I’ll 
>>> *never* need all that it can offer tbh.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 4:57:20 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 This is why Riv got Nitto to make a Basket Rack. They kinda backed 
 themselves into a world of riders putting big loads in a big basket on 
 a 
 little rack on the if-the-wheel-locks-up-things-get-ugly-fast end of 
 the 
 bike and...you don't want that. 

 I tried it, I 

[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[James]

I'm a Riv rider in West Asheville

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 11:03:21 PM UTC-5 lukeheller wrote:

> I used to ride a Riv Canti-Rom for a few years when i first started riding 
> brevets in 2012.
> No longer ride a riv but all my bikes are riv inspired. I've had several 
> custom frames that are spin offs from my canti-rom.
> I'm the local organizer for the Asheville Intl Randonneurs and live in 
> Asheville if anyone wants to drink the kool-aid.
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:33:52 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm in Asheville. Not currently on a Riv but am giving one some serious 
>> thought (which is why I'm on this group). I occasionally ride fire roads in 
>> the Pisgah starting from the Hub. Last spring I did a ride from the 
>> Arboretum at Bent Creek to the Hub (still sore from that one!). Been 
>> thinking Oscar Blues or Ecusta Brewing might be fun to start from and end 
>> at. I'd enjoy riding with a group of Riv riders - if you'd promise not to 
>> be too hard on me if I turn up on a different marque. Full disclosure; I am 
>> old and slow.
>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:45:40 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in Charlotte, NC.  We should plan a Riv NC ride sometime.  I'm not 
>>> much for climbing.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 7:20:00 PM UTC-5 esoter...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dick,

 I live in the flatlands of Raleigh, but my wife and I had a chance to 
 go on a terrific gravel ride with Michael on a visit to Boone. Michael's a 
 wonderful guy and he knows a bunch of great rides in the area. Y'all have 
 some excellent terrain up there in western NC. If you ever find yourself 
 near Boone, reach out to him. It's always a hoot to connect with someone 
 on 
 the list in person. Cheers,

 ~Mark
 Raleigh, NC

 On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 6:32:23 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:

> I ride an Atlantis in Boone. Went to high school in Brevard. My folks 
> still live there. You may see my dad riding an old diamond back with 
> albatross bars I found in a junk pile and built up for him. He installed 
> an 
> electric assist on it! 
>
> Michael
> Boone, NC
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 1:36:10 PM UTC-5 Artaud wrote:
>
>> I ride my Hillborne further East in Greensboro, but after riding back 
>> home from Floyd two summers ago, I've been wanting to spend more time 
>> riding in the mountains.
>>
>> Denis, in NC
>> Le lundi 13 février 2023 à 12:21:08 UTC-5, Dick Pahle a écrit :
>>
>>> Checking to see if there are any Riv people, other than me, in the 
>>> Brevard NC area. I ride a 2015 AHH. 
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>

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