Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Michael Baquerizo]

yes i'll take a mini tutorial on polishing a pletscher for sure.



On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:39:18 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Wow, Ken! I love that polished double! A real pletscher to look at!
>
> How'd you do that?
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:19:38 AM UTC-8 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
>> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said to 
>> myself "never again!" 
>> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>>
>> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
>> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>>
>> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
>> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
>>> times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
>>> the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
>>> Team Swoopy! 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
 would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
 noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
 functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
 what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
 But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
 pictures of what you decide.  

 Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever 
 know the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I 
 know how you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.


 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:

> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, 
> no reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!
>
> Jared
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking Essentials: On Finding Goldilocks

[Jeffrey Arita]

@John Rinker:

For your GD loadout, it amazes me how much bikepackers have in common: our 
list matches *almost *verbatim - down to the Sea to Summit eVent drybags 
(and no, I'm pretty sure we didn't memo each other before heading out).  
The make and model of other items might be different, but you get the 
idea.  The 'essentials' are remarkably the same.  We, too are huge 
believers in wool!!  A couple of things stood out, at least for us: we did 
not bring dedicated cameras/equipment (used smartphones) or fishing gear 
(we should have, in retrospect).  But, 99% the same.  

We did the GD in 2017 NoBo (depart from Puerto Palomas/Columbus).  We left 
in July and ran out of season upon getting to Butte, MT (snow).  Hit pause 
and restarted from Butte in July 2018.  Life-changing, to say the least.  
That is, so far, the only route I would do again in a heartbeat.  So 
gorgeous.

We too had a Big Agnes CopperSpur tent (loved it) but we actually *wore *it 
out (it was used extensively until late last year - zippers failing).  I 
love wearing out stuff.  We liked to call it a big mosquito net ;).  We 
just got a  Durston X-Mid Pro 2 tent a few days ago.  Goodness gracious!  
Talk about light!  We'll see how durable that tent is  Heading to the 
UK, France (PBP-bound) and Spain this summer.  Then South America (Santiago 
to Ushuaia) in November.  Back home by early April?

Like you said, the variables change, so the Goldilocks list can be elusive!

Best regards,

Jeff
Claremont, CA

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 3:44:31 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Moving this over from Johnny's 'Fitting the Hunqapillar' thread and in 
> response to Jay's inquiry about my essential packing list for touring. 
>
> Of course, some of it depends on the nature of the tour itself: climate, 
> remoteness, and goals for the trip. For example, on the Great Divide, I 
> packed my tenkara rod and for the Cabo loop, I swapped it out for a mask 
> and snorkel. When I rode the Annapurna Circuit I didn't pack shelter or 
> kitchen as I stayed in tea houses and ate dahl bat. 
>
> As examples, here are packing lists from the two very different trips 
> mentioned above. 
>
> The Great Divide (2018) 
> 
>
> The Cabo Loo (2023) 
> 
>
> Sadly, the photos are the same, but the Cabo Loop list is more 
> representative of what I've learned that I'd rather not be without on any 
> journey. 
>
> The clothing in the Great Divide list was basically cut in half before I 
> left- where there are 2s, I kept 1. I did retain both pairs of sandals- a 
> small luxury after a long day in the saddle. Neither did I end up carrying 
> so many water bottles, and I have since swapped out the MSR gravity filter 
> for a Steri-Pen UV filter. 
>
> Didn't take my full spice kit on the Baja Divide because I'd planned to 
> live on fish tacos the whole time (very tricky in the mountains!). I no 
> longer take the Nikon as my iPhone 8 takes fine snaps, I leave the Garmin 
> GPS as I use GaiaGPS on my device, and I've swapped out my tripod stool for 
> a lighter Japanese folding stool. 
>
> I love my Big Agnes CopperSpur tent but wanted to spend some time getting 
> good at setting up my Mountain Laurel Designs Trailstar tarp in the deep 
> sand of Cabo where tent stakes are useless. 
>
> As far as essentials, hmm? My Marmot sleeping bag, a water bottle, my tool 
> roll, down jacket, wool undies, bandanas, rain gear, and camp slops.
>
> Anyways, that's my thinking on packing on wilderness-focused tours. 
>
> I'd love to hear what you've gleaned from your experience and what you 
> consider your essentials when heading into the mountains.
>
> Cheers, John
>

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[RBW] Long shot WTB 54 Gus

[Andrew Huston]

Much prefer orange green. Complete or frame. Thanks in advance.   

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini Complete

[JW]

Smoking deal from a solid seller, someone jump on this!

Jared

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:01:43 PM UTC-8 penne...@gmail.com wrote:

> 2020 Orange Roadini, 61cm, complete sans pedals and saddle, $1200usd 
> shipped to CONUS from Alberta, Canada
>
> Frameset is in very good condition, a little over 300 miles on it. No 
> issues to note, other than clarifying that this version of the frame maxes 
> out at a 38mm tire. Otherwise, the build:
>
> Nitto Albatross Handlebar (mounted upside down these are excellent "alt 
> drops")
> Nitto Technomic stem 110mm
> Oury lock-on grips
> Miscellaneous Newbaum's
> Dia-Compe SS6 brake levers
> Tektro long reachers
> Silver shifter on the thumb mount
> Gran Compe shifter on the downtube
> Stock seatpost
> Mavic CXP Elite x Shimano wheelset
> 700x32 Panaracer Gravel Kings (I think they called this colour "olive")
> Clipper/Sugino Crankset, 175mm arms, 50x34 (non-original chainrings)
> Deore rear derailer
> SunRace R90 front derailer
> Shimano bb
>
> Surely I'm forgetting something, but that'll do for now. Questions? Ask 
> away! 
>
> I have more photos - if you're interested send me an email off-list and 
> I'll turn the rest of the photo batch around, or take any additional photos 
> you'd like to see. 
>
> Cheers and thanks,
> Mack 
>

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[RBW] Re: Compact Half-Step plus Granny gearing

[Berkeleyan]

I ran my LongLow with H/S + G for many of its so-far 25 years. I use a 
Sachs six-speed freewheel on a Phil hub, and learned to shift initially for 
the correct rear cog, then trim up or down with the front Der. It felt 
natural and fine, an easy way to ride.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: New XL (59cm) Wolbis/Susie Frameset

[Den John]

Hello Paul,

Is this frame still for sale? If so, would you consider shipping to Europe? 

Delivery from the EU to US is about $90, if it's possible to send from the 
US to the EU for a similar price, that would be good.

I'm looking for a bike that will serve for a longish commute, and for some 
light touring and off road.

Cheers,
Johnny in Belgium


On Friday, 24 February 2023 at 16:33:44 UTC+1 Paul M wrote:

> The Susie is still for sale. Like all Rivendells it's way more than a 
> Hillibike. As Russ Roca of The Path Less Pedaled website says in his review 
> of the Susie W. Longbolts.  
>
> "Like a 90's MTB... But Better!"
>
> "Dirt Surfer"
>
> "ATB"
>
> "Commuter"
>
> "Adult Cruiser of the Apocalypse"
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 8 February 2023 at 11:31:16 UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> These frames really do play better with more swept back bars… 
>> specifically any of the “_osco” bar models. I wouldn’t want anything more 
>> forward than the Toscos on my Gus… the frames are just too long for 
>> anything else, IMO.
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2023, at 9:10 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> You're all set. Your original post says 58.5, 68.5 sounds correct. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 3:24:51 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>
>>> So I did measure it and came up with 68.5cm and the Riv geometry chart 
>>> shows the same for a 59cm Susie. The only 70cm ETT on the geometry chart is 
>>> the 64cm Clem L. Thats long and I know from owning one. Here's a picture 
>>> that makes the Susie look that way.  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 7 February 2023 at 13:09:58 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I believe your ETT is a typo, the 59cm frames are closer to 70cm 
 effective toptube. 

 On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 8:26:49 AM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:

> Purchased this frameset directly from RBW last year and never built it 
> into a complete bicycle. I acquired a 56cm Susie and decided to put the 
> other up for sale. The 56cm vs. 59cm only vary by 2.5cm in the effective 
> top tube length. The 59cm also has a 31.8mm diameter top tube vs. 28.6mm 
> for the 56cm. Would work best for someone 6' or taller. Email me directly 
> for more information and pictures. Check out Portland Oregon Craigslist 
> for 
> my listing.  Thanks, Paul in Eugene Oregon, Track town USA
>
> st- 59cm c-t
> tt- 58.5cm c-c, effective
> cs- 56cm
> ht- 264mm
> fillet brazed construction
> model discontinued
> $1800 plus shipping
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[RBW] FS: More wool clothes - Kitsbow Icon, REI Jacket, BSA Wool Jacket

[Michael Ullmer]

Here are some more items that didn't make the cut this winter:

1) Kitsbow Icon Mens Medium - Sedona Ombre, Signature Fit - $160
--In great shape, no rips/tears. Some fuzz and pilling that can be cleaned 
up. Their signature fit is a bit tighter than a regular fit, lots more info 
on the Kitsbow site on this one. One of the best cycling flannels available.

2) REI Wool Blend Jacket Mens Medium - $30
--This is an older model made in Canada. Wool blend jacket (tag is faded so 
I can't determine blend amounts) reminiscent of Ibex jackets I've used in 
the past. I intended this to be a chore jacket, but a friend gifted me a 
Filson jacket for that purpose instead. In great shape, no stains that I 
can see. Fits well as a layering piece with a flannel or sweater underneath.

3) Boy Scouts of America Wool Jacket - $25
--This is labeled as a size 42, it fits me well as a layering piece and I 
usually wear medium clothes. This is a thick wool jacket, great red 
buttons, two flap pockets. There's some stains on the outside that I 
haven't tried to get out but assume are semi-permanent. I used this as a 
chore jacket for in the garage.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SELK7K5zmvBDNN9CA

Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. I'll plan on using 
Pirateship

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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Jason D]

I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty often, 
but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. Asheville or 
Boone would be good with me!

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?
>
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:
>
>> Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.
>>
>> River
>>
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>>
>>> I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, but 
>>> my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to ride in 
>>> the area with other Riv-folk.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Eric 
>>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>>
 Be happy to come up to Boone too. 

 Dick

 On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville for a 
> Riv-ride" column...
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>
>> I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things (anything). 
>> Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it than me as she does 
>> it 
>> all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all that well. Could 
>> be 
>> wrong about that. 
>>
>> Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as far 
>> away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody wants to 
>> stay 
>> overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of floorspace for 
>> those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat little 
>> 50's 
>> style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including backcountry 
>> in 
>> the Pisgah National Forest. 
>>
>> 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for 
>> various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old body 
>> feels at the time. 
>>
>> Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They could 
>> suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge Parkway which 
>> would mean out and back or arranging for some kind of shuttle service. 
>> Parkway is beautiful. Lots of 'scenic overlook spots' every few miles. 
>> Hilly in lots of places. As best I can recall the elevation along the 
>> ridge 
>> near us is 3 to 5,000 feet. Riding up to the Parkway and back from 
>> Brevard 
>> would be about 30 miles, round trip. Or longer if you wanted to add some 
>> parkway miles once we got up there. For me, that would be a hard ride. 
>>
>> What's next? Does someone here wanna organize? All done on this 
>> thread or do we start a new one?
>>
>> Spring and fall are georgeous here. Summer too but it can be hot and 
>> humid. Plus, we are in a temperate rain forest so it rains a lot. 
>>
>> Had no idea my post looking for Rivs in the area would generate this 
>> kinda response. It's great!!!
>>
>> Dick
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 2:24:27 PM UTC-5 
>> steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Dick, just saying "thank you" for kicking off this thread. 
>>> Interesting to see the number of Riv riders in the area.
>>>
>>> If you ever take a notion to organize a Brevard area ride for Riv 
>>> riders (and Riv curious, like myself) I'd be interested. Between the 
>>> Brevard paved greenway network, the dirt trail into the National Forest 
>>> at 
>>> Pisgah Forest and the breweries/eateries along the greenway - and 
>>> whatever 
>>> routes you Brevard locals keep secret - I bet a low key party pace ride 
>>> could be a fun event. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 9:31:53 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>>
 Thanx to all responding to my western NC post. Good to know. 
 First..to Pamtook your CC class in Clt few years ago. 
 Still 
 benefitting from it. Good friend of David S who I think  is member of 
 this 
 group too. To Michaelwill keep eyes open for your father here 
 in 
 Brevard. At 73, I'm guessing I'm as old or older than him. :-) To 
 Steve in 
 Asheville. I know the areas you mention well. The hills around here 
 can be 
 brutal, especially for an old slow guy like me. 

 I've ridden from my home in Brevard to the Parkway (Blue Ridge 
 Parkway) once, up 276 and back down. ~ 40 miles round trip with tough 
 elevation gain, especially the last few miles, before heading back 
 down. 
 Ever thankful for my super comfortable 61 Homer that Keven helped me 
 with 
 back when he was still at Riv. Great 

[RBW] WTT: your 80mm Simworks Rhonda (or similar stem) for my ...

[Patch T]

Howdy Bunch - 

After a couple successful recent trades on the lists I'm putting another 
one out there. Let's see how long I can go without making monetary 
purchases for parts (with exception of course to the USPS)! 

You: have an 80mm Simworks Rhonda Stem 
,
 
or something *very* similar (threadless, 80mm long, svelte-not-chunky, 
~80deg rise, removable faceplate, 31.8) in black or chrome/silver/or?

Me: I've got a black Soma Crane 
 80mm, as well as 
a black Velo Orange Cigne 

 90mm 
- as well as a few other items up for trade I can tell you about privately. 

Shoot me a dm if carrying + interested. Thanks!

Patch in BK/NYC

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[John Rinker]

Wow, Ken! I love that polished double! A real pletscher to look at!

How'd you do that?

Cheers, John

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:19:38 AM UTC-8 Ken Yokanovich wrote:

> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said to 
> myself "never again!" 
> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>
> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>
> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
>> times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
>> the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
>> Team Swoopy! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
>>> would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
>>> noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
>>> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
>>> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
>>> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
>>> pictures of what you decide.  
>>>
>>> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever know 
>>> the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I know how 
>>> you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>>>
 I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, no 
 reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!

 Jared

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Ken Yokanovich]

I applied some Groit's Garage Ceramic 3-in-1 spray finish, same stuff that 
I use to spray down the entire bike. 

Honestly, it can be a maintenance nightmare to keep shiny, particularly a 
kickstand that is subject to lots of abuse. Fortunately, I really enjoy 
keeping the fleet of bikes clean. I generally keep at least one bike ready 
for all kinds of inclement weather and abuse.

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:41:22 AM UTC-6 George Schick wrote:

> Ken - after you polished it did you apply any kind of sealer to it?
>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:19:38 AM UTC-6 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
>> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said to 
>> myself "never again!" 
>> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>>
>> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
>> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>>
>> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
>> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
>>> times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
>>> the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
>>> Team Swoopy! 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
 would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
 noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
 functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
 what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
 But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
 pictures of what you decide.  

 Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever 
 know the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I 
 know how you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.


 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:

> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, 
> no reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!
>
> Jared
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Leah, I feel your pain and have a potential solution for you.  Get your
favorite color of Newbaum tape and wrap the offending kickstand with the
beautiful colored bar tape and then you won't have to look at that
offending black part of the kickstand and you get to accessorize your bike
with another beautiful color.  You can finish the end with some twine.  Riv
website has good instructions on how to do this.  I can take a picture of
my wife's Betty Foy's kickstand if you'd like.  I think it would be sweet!

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[George Schick]

Ken - after you polished it did you apply any kind of sealer to it?


On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 9:19:38 AM UTC-6 Ken Yokanovich wrote:

> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said to 
> myself "never again!" 
> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>
> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>
> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
>> times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
>> the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
>> Team Swoopy! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
>>> would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
>>> noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
>>> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
>>> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
>>> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
>>> pictures of what you decide.  
>>>
>>> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever know 
>>> the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I know how 
>>> you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>>>
 I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, no 
 reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!

 Jared

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

>

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[RBW] Re: Free: Susie Frame

[Brian Forsee]

Riv tall bike! Oowe that sounds fun

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:51:57 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:

> If you still have it, my friend offered to build me a tall bike and I 
> could use it for that.
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:55:27 PM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>
>> Benjamin,
>>
>> Do you still have the Susie frame and fork? 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Reginald Alexis
>>
>> On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 3:20:02 PM UTC-5 benjami...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> [image: image.jpg][image: image.jpg][image: image.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 3:48:41 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Echoing Keith with “bummer”, but I gotta say I can’t see any downsides 
 to fillet brazing here. The steel tore alongside the fillet. The fact that 
 it’s actually torn and not cracked there is as much proof as I’d need to 
 have trust in the bronze union. That said, I’d love to see some closeups 
 as 
 well, if it’s not too heart wrenching to post…
 -Kai

 On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 12:37:28 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:

> Gosh, what a bummer.  So sorry that happened, and hope insurance will 
> make you whole.  This does seem to illustrate the down-side to fillet/tig 
> construction and curved tubes.  I imagine that it will be difficult to 
> repair.   Unless it's just too painful, I'd love to see some close-up 
> shots 
> of the fillet joints on the damaged tubes, to see how they faired and to 
> understand their limitations/strengths better.  Trying to make lemonade, 
> I 
> guess. 
>
> On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 9:28:42 AM UTC-6 benjami...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> This size L Susie frame fell off a rack on the highway. Top and down 
>> tube are obviously broken but rear triangle and head tube seem fine. 
>> Free 
>> if you pay for shipping.
>>
>> [image: BEA2F3C4-2C2F-43FE-A7BB-06741817CE6A.jpeg]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[lconley]

OOOH, I like it. I have been considering doing some drillium to one of my 
kickstands (single leg) and have always wondered how they would take to 
polishing. May have to do both, now.

Laing

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 10:19:38 AM UTC-5 Ken Yokanovich wrote:

> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said to 
> myself "never again!" 
> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>
> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>
> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a few 
>> times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher Touring and 
>> the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. I'm 
>> Team Swoopy! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one and 
>>> would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't like a 
>>> noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
>>> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
>>> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
>>> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to see 
>>> pictures of what you decide.  
>>>
>>> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever know 
>>> the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I know how 
>>> you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>>>
 I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, no 
 reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic skills!

 Jared

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

>

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking Essentials: On Finding Goldilocks

[Ryan Frahm]

These might not be super pack able but they aren’t bad. They work extremely 
well if you know conditions will be soft. Completely worth it for some 
areas.  

https://www.orangescrew.com/collections/all-products/products/small-ground-anchor-4-pack

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:39:38 AM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:

> Lots of nice intellectual exercises for the problem of tent line anchors 
> when in deep sand once you reach the conclusion that regular ones don't and 
> won't work.
>
> Climbers in the snow use flukes as do recovery specialists, often in gangs 
> to distribute force from the primary line. I've seen a crew moving a Land 
> Rover mired in a peat bog doing this with five or six. 
>
> Considering the brevity of mass necessary for bike camping something like 
> a wide rectangle of cloth, short ends connected by a loop, that you fill 
> with sand, in a pit you've dug in the sand, then buried in its filled shape 
> with a rope making a yoke between the two ends loops. 
>
> These could be bandanas with shoelace (holds temporary knots better than 
> accessory cord) and actually be less weight and bulk than regular stakes 
> yet alone the screw and fluke gizmos the internet will sell you. 
>
> If surprised and unprepared in the setting of sand otherwise, I've found 
> that a branch, buried in the sand works pretty dang well. The more 
> convoluted and leafy, the better it interacts with the sand and holds both 
> steady and surge loading.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:44:31 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Moving this over from Johnny's 'Fitting the Hunqapillar' thread and in 
>> response to Jay's inquiry about my essential packing list for touring. 
>>
>> Of course, some of it depends on the nature of the tour itself: climate, 
>> remoteness, and goals for the trip. For example, on the Great Divide, I 
>> packed my tenkara rod and for the Cabo loop, I swapped it out for a mask 
>> and snorkel. When I rode the Annapurna Circuit I didn't pack shelter or 
>> kitchen as I stayed in tea houses and ate dahl bat. 
>>
>> As examples, here are packing lists from the two very different trips 
>> mentioned above. 
>>
>> The Great Divide (2018) 
>> 
>>
>> The Cabo Loo (2023) 
>> 
>>
>> Sadly, the photos are the same, but the Cabo Loop list is more 
>> representative of what I've learned that I'd rather not be without on any 
>> journey. 
>>
>> The clothing in the Great Divide list was basically cut in half before I 
>> left- where there are 2s, I kept 1. I did retain both pairs of sandals- a 
>> small luxury after a long day in the saddle. Neither did I end up carrying 
>> so many water bottles, and I have since swapped out the MSR gravity filter 
>> for a Steri-Pen UV filter. 
>>
>> Didn't take my full spice kit on the Baja Divide because I'd planned to 
>> live on fish tacos the whole time (very tricky in the mountains!). I no 
>> longer take the Nikon as my iPhone 8 takes fine snaps, I leave the Garmin 
>> GPS as I use GaiaGPS on my device, and I've swapped out my tripod stool for 
>> a lighter Japanese folding stool. 
>>
>> I love my Big Agnes CopperSpur tent but wanted to spend some time getting 
>> good at setting up my Mountain Laurel Designs Trailstar tarp in the deep 
>> sand of Cabo where tent stakes are useless. 
>>
>> As far as essentials, hmm? My Marmot sleeping bag, a water bottle, my 
>> tool roll, down jacket, wool undies, bandanas, rain gear, and camp slops.
>>
>> Anyways, that's my thinking on packing on wilderness-focused tours. 
>>
>> I'd love to hear what you've gleaned from your experience and what you 
>> consider your essentials when heading into the mountains.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking Essentials: On Finding Goldilocks

[ascpgh]

Lots of nice intellectual exercises for the problem of tent line anchors 
when in deep sand once you reach the conclusion that regular ones don't and 
won't work.

Climbers in the snow use flukes as do recovery specialists, often in gangs 
to distribute force from the primary line. I've seen a crew moving a Land 
Rover mired in a peat bog doing this with five or six. 

Considering the brevity of mass necessary for bike camping something like a 
wide rectangle of cloth, short ends connected by a loop, that you fill with 
sand, in a pit you've dug in the sand, then buried in its filled shape with 
a rope making a yoke between the two ends loops. 

These could be bandanas with shoelace (holds temporary knots better than 
accessory cord) and actually be less weight and bulk than regular stakes 
yet alone the screw and fluke gizmos the internet will sell you. 

If surprised and unprepared in the setting of sand otherwise, I've found 
that a branch, buried in the sand works pretty dang well. The more 
convoluted and leafy, the better it interacts with the sand and holds both 
steady and surge loading.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:44:31 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Moving this over from Johnny's 'Fitting the Hunqapillar' thread and in 
> response to Jay's inquiry about my essential packing list for touring. 
>
> Of course, some of it depends on the nature of the tour itself: climate, 
> remoteness, and goals for the trip. For example, on the Great Divide, I 
> packed my tenkara rod and for the Cabo loop, I swapped it out for a mask 
> and snorkel. When I rode the Annapurna Circuit I didn't pack shelter or 
> kitchen as I stayed in tea houses and ate dahl bat. 
>
> As examples, here are packing lists from the two very different trips 
> mentioned above. 
>
> The Great Divide (2018) 
> 
>
> The Cabo Loo (2023) 
> 
>
> Sadly, the photos are the same, but the Cabo Loop list is more 
> representative of what I've learned that I'd rather not be without on any 
> journey. 
>
> The clothing in the Great Divide list was basically cut in half before I 
> left- where there are 2s, I kept 1. I did retain both pairs of sandals- a 
> small luxury after a long day in the saddle. Neither did I end up carrying 
> so many water bottles, and I have since swapped out the MSR gravity filter 
> for a Steri-Pen UV filter. 
>
> Didn't take my full spice kit on the Baja Divide because I'd planned to 
> live on fish tacos the whole time (very tricky in the mountains!). I no 
> longer take the Nikon as my iPhone 8 takes fine snaps, I leave the Garmin 
> GPS as I use GaiaGPS on my device, and I've swapped out my tripod stool for 
> a lighter Japanese folding stool. 
>
> I love my Big Agnes CopperSpur tent but wanted to spend some time getting 
> good at setting up my Mountain Laurel Designs Trailstar tarp in the deep 
> sand of Cabo where tent stakes are useless. 
>
> As far as essentials, hmm? My Marmot sleeping bag, a water bottle, my tool 
> roll, down jacket, wool undies, bandanas, rain gear, and camp slops.
>
> Anyways, that's my thinking on packing on wilderness-focused tours. 
>
> I'd love to hear what you've gleaned from your experience and what you 
> consider your essentials when heading into the mountains.
>
> Cheers, John
>

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