[RBW] Re: The Great Parts Purge of 2023 - part 1

['frank_a' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hello Eric,
 I’ve sent an email re: Sugino 172.5 crank arms.
Thanks,
 -Frank
On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:22:32 AM UTC-5 saintruggler wrote:

> Doing a little spring cleaning. Lots of bobs and bits, including 
> chainrings (oooh!) and shiny levers (a!) and even a few shifty doodads 
> from the modern era.
>
> All parts are listed in a Google Sheet here: 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iUsY8V8ZtkDKj393jP5d9vsX_P8YSxadZqcT6jcH3QY/
>
> Send me a direct message if there's something you want. I will update the 
> sheet itself and probably won't send "sold" notices via the list. That 
> said, I may bump when more parts get added.
>
> For photos, go to https://photos.app.goo.gl/S8tJbznRhfbCqHSh9. 
>
> Prices in the spreadsheet are all OBO, so let's make a deal! You pay 
> actual shipping from W. Oregon.
>
> -Eric
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone running RH Steilacoom on a Canti-Rom?

[Charlie]

Hi JS, 

The canti Romanceur fits 650b wheels and the Steilacoom tires are 700c.

Maybe try the Juniper Ridge. 


Charlie in Maine 

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:45:05 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:

> I think these will fit , but wanted to check here first to see if anyone 
> has tried.
> thank you
> JS
>

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[RBW] Re: Fitting the Hunqapillar for touring

[Hoch in ut]

Thank you, Johnny! 

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 11:09:16 AM UTC-7 johnny@gmail.com wrote:

> I measure it to be right at 22 1/2". That's center of bb to top of top 
> tube.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone running RH Steilacoom on a Canti-Rom?

[Dave C]

Canti-Romulus, not Romanceur

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:19:30 AM UTC-8 charlie...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi JS, 
>
> The canti Romanceur fits 650b wheels and the Steilacoom tires are 700c.
>
> Maybe try the Juniper Ridge. 
>
>
> Charlie in Maine 
>
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:45:05 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> I think these will fit , but wanted to check here first to see if anyone 
>> has tried.
>> thank you
>> JS
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Dave C]

I have a different perspective. First, when I was growing up, I prized my 
BMX bike and banana seat Schwinn cruiser, even though they were not 
designed to travel distance like an adult Rivendell. Those bikes gave me 
freedom, and I was not capable of understanding that a "better" bike was 
out there, nor would have that served me well. The options we have as first 
world consumers can be liberating, but they can also be a burden that 
occupies too much of our time. A BMX bike is a simple machine, one ring and 
cog, fewer parts to fix. It is unfortunate that many kids bikes are 
infernally heavy proportional to their weight, but they are still amazing 
tools that allow kids to propel themselves in ways no kids prior to the 
last century had at their disposal. 

I bought my 14 year old daughter an e-bike so she can ride to and from 
school everyday on her hilly commute. The e-bike is impressive, but she 
often has battery anxiety, and if it dies she wants to be picked up rather 
than pedal that heavy machine. If she was riding an older 26" hardtail from 
the late 90s or early aughts, she might sweat a bit more on the uphills but 
she would likely just walk up the hardest section and never consider 
calling me. It feels ridiculous that I would spend a bunch of money to make 
a problem easier and then create new problems. My point is, our kids can 
adjust to "inferior" or heavier bikes just like they have for decades, and 
fall in love with biking if they enjoy the adventure. I don't think you 
have anything to regret, you have simply been burdened with the idea that 
you are somehow responsible to give them some especially great bike because 
you did that for yourself; that feeling is powerful and hard to resist, but 
it is not a fact, just a feeling. At least that is my perspective, from my 
own experience. By the way, I have bought my kids the lighter of available 
bikes, but always used Treks and Specializeds that had quality parts and 
cost $100-$150 used. Then we focused on the important things: a doughnut 
bell, a kickstand, and cool grips. Dave in Carlsbad

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:40:18 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ok, first up. 
>
> This is the inaugural ride of my Betty Foy. I was living in Southern 
> California at the time and had arrived home with my new bike after picking 
> it up at RBW HQ in late 2012. I decided to make us all ride our bikes to 
> church that Sunday morning. Please note how tiny my littler boy is. I saw 
> this photo and remembered how many times I insisted he was not pedaling 
> hard enough when we were riding up the hills. For Pete’s sake, the kid was 
> 3 years old and weighed like 30 pounds. I was certain he was not doing his 
> part.
> [image: image0.png]
>
> You’ll notice my older son, who was almost always smiling and never 
> complaining, has this Haro bike. It was the best we could get because he 
> was too small for most everything else. It was a BMX bike, and probably not 
> well-suited to what we were doing. However, I’ll draw your attention to the 
> next photo…
>
> [image: image1.png]
>
> Which is this one. Look at this atrocity. We are visiting my parents, and 
> they have sweetly bought him this new bike from the best sporting goods 
> store in town. Pacific was supposedly made by the Schwinn people, the only 
> reputable bike company we knew of by name. If it said Schwinn, it must be 
> quality. This said Pacific, which meant Schwinn, so it was clearly quality. 
> We had no idea at the time how monstrously heavy this bike was. Look at my 
> tiny boy, suffering with every pedal stroke. The bike was way too big for 
> him (“He’ll make it work, it’s what I did as a kid,” said the helpful 
> salesman) and it outweighed him, easily. Is it even put together correctly? 
> Is the fork right? I don’t know, but my sunny child is clearly not enjoying 
> himself here. I’m sure I told him he was being ungrateful after his 
> grandparents bought him a brand new bike. And also, pedal harder. 😩
>
> Finally, these last two. I got my act together and ordered that Islabike 
> you see in the far right, so at least my poor kids were better off. But 
> what about our dog?! Here he is, stuffed unceremoniously into a Backabike 
> bag. I knew it was a bad idea but I consoled myself by believing it was the 
> dog’s fault. He was desperate to come along and was making quite a fuss. 
> His riding basket was full of backpacks, so this was the only way. 
>
> [image: image2.jpeg]
> Also, here is he again, all 15 pounds of him, with a heavy wooden 
> skateboard laying across his back. I’m sure he felt every bump. I am also 
> sure that I was feeling smug for figuring out how to carry all this stuff 
> on my bike. 
> [image: image3.png]
>
> I’m sure there are more of these regrettable photos, and when I find them, 
> I’ll put them here. In the meantime, go ahead and post your guilty bike 
> life memories/photos here. I could use the company. 
>
> Leah
>
> On Mar 4, 202

Re: [RBW] Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Dave C]

[image: hodges sasha 20210411_121248.jpeg]

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 7:48:46 AM UTC-8 Dave C wrote:

> I have a different perspective. First, when I was growing up, I prized my 
> BMX bike and banana seat Schwinn cruiser, even though they were not 
> designed to travel distance like an adult Rivendell. Those bikes gave me 
> freedom, and I was not capable of understanding that a "better" bike was 
> out there, nor would have that served me well. The options we have as first 
> world consumers can be liberating, but they can also be a burden that 
> occupies too much of our time. A BMX bike is a simple machine, one ring and 
> cog, fewer parts to fix. It is unfortunate that many kids bikes are 
> infernally heavy proportional to their weight, but they are still amazing 
> tools that allow kids to propel themselves in ways no kids prior to the 
> last century had at their disposal. 
>
> I bought my 14 year old daughter an e-bike so she can ride to and from 
> school everyday on her hilly commute. The e-bike is impressive, but she 
> often has battery anxiety, and if it dies she wants to be picked up rather 
> than pedal that heavy machine. If she was riding an older 26" hardtail from 
> the late 90s or early aughts, she might sweat a bit more on the uphills but 
> she would likely just walk up the hardest section and never consider 
> calling me. It feels ridiculous that I would spend a bunch of money to make 
> a problem easier and then create new problems. My point is, our kids can 
> adjust to "inferior" or heavier bikes just like they have for decades, and 
> fall in love with biking if they enjoy the adventure. I don't think you 
> have anything to regret, you have simply been burdened with the idea that 
> you are somehow responsible to give them some especially great bike because 
> you did that for yourself; that feeling is powerful and hard to resist, but 
> it is not a fact, just a feeling. At least that is my perspective, from my 
> own experience. By the way, I have bought my kids the lighter of available 
> bikes, but always used Treks and Specializeds that had quality parts and 
> cost $100-$150 used. Then we focused on the important things: a doughnut 
> bell, a kickstand, and cool grips. Dave in Carlsbad
>
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:40:18 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, first up. 
>>
>> This is the inaugural ride of my Betty Foy. I was living in Southern 
>> California at the time and had arrived home with my new bike after picking 
>> it up at RBW HQ in late 2012. I decided to make us all ride our bikes to 
>> church that Sunday morning. Please note how tiny my littler boy is. I saw 
>> this photo and remembered how many times I insisted he was not pedaling 
>> hard enough when we were riding up the hills. For Pete’s sake, the kid was 
>> 3 years old and weighed like 30 pounds. I was certain he was not doing his 
>> part.
>> [image: image0.png]
>>
>> You’ll notice my older son, who was almost always smiling and never 
>> complaining, has this Haro bike. It was the best we could get because he 
>> was too small for most everything else. It was a BMX bike, and probably not 
>> well-suited to what we were doing. However, I’ll draw your attention to the 
>> next photo…
>>
>> [image: image1.png]
>>
>> Which is this one. Look at this atrocity. We are visiting my parents, and 
>> they have sweetly bought him this new bike from the best sporting goods 
>> store in town. Pacific was supposedly made by the Schwinn people, the only 
>> reputable bike company we knew of by name. If it said Schwinn, it must be 
>> quality. This said Pacific, which meant Schwinn, so it was clearly quality. 
>> We had no idea at the time how monstrously heavy this bike was. Look at my 
>> tiny boy, suffering with every pedal stroke. The bike was way too big for 
>> him (“He’ll make it work, it’s what I did as a kid,” said the helpful 
>> salesman) and it outweighed him, easily. Is it even put together correctly? 
>> Is the fork right? I don’t know, but my sunny child is clearly not enjoying 
>> himself here. I’m sure I told him he was being ungrateful after his 
>> grandparents bought him a brand new bike. And also, pedal harder. 😩
>>
>> Finally, these last two. I got my act together and ordered that Islabike 
>> you see in the far right, so at least my poor kids were better off. But 
>> what about our dog?! Here he is, stuffed unceremoniously into a Backabike 
>> bag. I knew it was a bad idea but I consoled myself by believing it was the 
>> dog’s fault. He was desperate to come along and was making quite a fuss. 
>> His riding basket was full of backpacks, so this was the only way. 
>>
>> [image: image2.jpeg]
>> Also, here is he again, all 15 pounds of him, with a heavy wooden 
>> skateboard laying across his back. I’m sure he felt every bump. I am also 
>> sure that I was feeling smug for figuring out how to carry all this stuff 
>> on my bike. 
>> [image: image3.png]
>>
>> I’m sure there 

[RBW] Re: Anyone running RH Steilacoom on a Canti-Rom?

[J Schwartz]

Yes, sorry , I meant Canti-braked Romulus.

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 10:29:43 AM UTC-5 Dave C wrote:

> Canti-Romulus, not Romanceur
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:19:30 AM UTC-8 charlie...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi JS, 
>>
>> The canti Romanceur fits 650b wheels and the Steilacoom tires are 700c.
>>
>> Maybe try the Juniper Ridge. 
>>
>>
>> Charlie in Maine 
>>
>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:45:05 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> I think these will fit , but wanted to check here first to see if anyone 
>>> has tried.
>>> thank you
>>> JS
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 38x24 Silver crankset, Albastache bars, Silver2 shifters + bar-end pods + thumb shift mounts

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

What’s the crank length?
-Kai

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 3:38:11 PM UTC-5 jdyea...@gmail.com wrote:

> I went down a Rivendell rabbit hole and tried out a bunch of stuff, but 
> I've decided to go a different direction. I've used all of these for just a 
> few rides, so they're basically as close to new as you can get.
>
> 38x24 Silver crankset
> Nitto Albastache bars
> Silver2 shifters x2
> Silver bar-end pods x2
> Silver thumb-shift mounts x2
>
> I'd love to ship all this out to one person if possible. All together, it 
> goes for ~$630 new. How about $500 shipped? Also accepting best offers 
> within reason.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone running RH Steilacoom on a Canti-Rom?

[Jeremy Till]

Not exactly the data point you were looking for, but I run nominal 700x40 
WTB Nanos on my green Rambouillet. I use Paul Racer M brakes on that bike 
to achieve max clearance, so it may be similar to what you have on a 
Canti-rom. The tires measure out around 37.5mm on narrow Velocity Aerohead 
rims. The limiting point on the tire clearance is the chainstay bridge. I 
picked up a pair of Steilacooms at a bike swap last year and plan to 
replace the Nanos with them soon so I will have more specific data then. 

Picture of the current setup:

https://flic.kr/p/2mXmCj6

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA 
On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 8:20:48 AM UTC-8 J Schwartz wrote:

> Yes, sorry , I meant Canti-braked Romulus.
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 10:29:43 AM UTC-5 Dave C wrote:
>
>> Canti-Romulus, not Romanceur
>>
>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:19:30 AM UTC-8 charlie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JS, 
>>>
>>> The canti Romanceur fits 650b wheels and the Steilacoom tires are 700c.
>>>
>>> Maybe try the Juniper Ridge. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Charlie in Maine 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:45:05 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
 I think these will fit , but wanted to check here first to see if 
 anyone has tried.
 thank you
 JS

>>>

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[RBW] Re: The Great Parts Purge of 2023 - part 1

[chintan jadwani]

Hi Eric

Contacted you reg. the bb7 calipers and the pedals

Thanks 

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:27:31 PM UTC+5:30 frank_a wrote:

> Hello Eric,
>  I’ve sent an email re: Sugino 172.5 crank arms.
> Thanks,
>  -Frank
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:22:32 AM UTC-5 saintruggler wrote:
>
>> Doing a little spring cleaning. Lots of bobs and bits, including 
>> chainrings (oooh!) and shiny levers (a!) and even a few shifty doodads 
>> from the modern era.
>>
>> All parts are listed in a Google Sheet here: 
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iUsY8V8ZtkDKj393jP5d9vsX_P8YSxadZqcT6jcH3QY/
>>
>> Send me a direct message if there's something you want. I will update the 
>> sheet itself and probably won't send "sold" notices via the list. That 
>> said, I may bump when more parts get added.
>>
>> For photos, go to https://photos.app.goo.gl/S8tJbznRhfbCqHSh9. 
>>
>> Prices in the spreadsheet are all OBO, so let's make a deal! You pay 
>> actual shipping from W. Oregon.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Jock Dewey]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/

Jock Dewey
On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
> tiny family members.
>
> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>
> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
> Leah
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Jock Dewey]

Now up to date.:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/52727172792/in/dateposted-family/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/52589941155/in/dateposted-family/

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 9:08:05 AM UTC-8 Jock Dewey wrote:

>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/
>
> Jock Dewey
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
>> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
>> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
>> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
>> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
>> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
>> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
>> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
>> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
>> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
>> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
>> tiny family members.
>>
>> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
>> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
>> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
>> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>>
>> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
>> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
>> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
>> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Garth]

Sure thing, as a teen/young adult traveling with the family was always 
"make room for one more", the bike of course. But the bike was most 
important though . ((( laughing ))) ... gawl darnit. Protect at all 
cost from weather, thieves and any potential for trauma. I don't care what 
happens to me, save the bike ! 

The garage too, make room for one more, or two, or three .. you know. 
We had a large garage with a small shop area in back so thankfully that was 
no problem. My Dad and brother are both do-it-alls around the house and car 
and everything they can get their hands on, including building the house 
and the car, it sorta runs in the family.  Me not as much, I was a last 
born and by then everyone is tired of kids, so you end up exploring on your 
own a lot. I try to play fix-it all the time, I screw up al lot, but that 
doesn't deter me as usually there's simply no one else to call upon. A 
Horsey has to drink all on their own, and oh what a fulfilling drink it is 
!  Mostly I just like to ride . feel the breeze the heat ... the 
cold  smell the air. all the nuances that the wind carries with it. 
The ups and down and all arounds with twists and crowns. It's never the 
same twice so you can never go without. I'm probably someone who would ride 
off in the sunset some day and simply never bee seen again, going to the 
land of ... enchanting SunShine. Not in a cliche' kind of way ... 
definitely off script... real Living/Being is always more wonderful than 
all the scripts ever written combined. What a writer could only dream of 
. Life without the need or possibility of ever a dream. 
It's what's Happening, THIS !   Yes  :-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Leah Peterson]

Am I understanding that this is you and your son, Jock? You could be brothers. What great photos and a great story. Though I will say that first photo of you and the little guy has me thinking he might have been safer stuffed in a Backabike bag of his own, but it was the 80s! LOn Mar 5, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Jock Dewey  wrote:https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/Jock DeweyOn Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my tiny family members.(I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment for a better experience for the tortured family members?Leah



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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Nitto RBW52F Basket Rack and Paul Melvin SS Conversion Kit

[JW]

Rack sold, thanks!

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 7:21:22 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:

> Thanks, Stephanie.
>
> I figured it would be long gone at this price, might just end up putting 
> it back on the shelf for later use...
>
> Jared
>
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 5:18:38 PM UTC-8 Stephanie A. wrote:
>
>> If I weren't in the process of changing out my drivetrain for $$$, I'd be 
>> buying the rack off of you. I hope someone picks it up!
>>
>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:32:02 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>>
>>> Melvin sold!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 3:08:50 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>
 Weekend bump!

 *$200 + shipping on RBW52F*

 *$135/shipped on Melvin/SS kit*

 On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 4:18:53 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:

> Hey group,
>
> Let's try this one out.
>
> I have a good condition Nitto/Rivendell basket rack for sale. 
> Currently out of stock at Riv and with the ongoing changes at Nitto it's 
> hard to say when/if they'll be back.
>
> *Asking $220+ ship or trade for Marks rack + cash.*
>
> Next I have a near new Paul Melvin with Wolftooth 17t cog and (2) 
> GearClamps. 
>
> Used on my Platypus for sub 50 miles, being down to N=1 I thought I 
> would be content with 3x1 but if I'm going to have only one bike it needs 
> more gearing.
>
> *$150 shipped in CONUS.*
>
> Please respond off list if interested, thanks :)
>
> Jared in SLO, CA
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The Great Parts Purge of 2023 - part 1

[Eric]

Bump 1. Updated the list with some bikepacking and mountain parts. Also,
handlebars!

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 9:21 PM Eric  wrote:

> Doing a little spring cleaning. Lots of bobs and bits, including
> chainrings (oooh!) and shiny levers (a!) and even a few shifty doodads
> from the modern era.
>
> All parts are listed in a Google Sheet here:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iUsY8V8ZtkDKj393jP5d9vsX_P8YSxadZqcT6jcH3QY/
>
> Send me a direct message if there's something you want. I will update the
> sheet itself and probably won't send "sold" notices via the list. That
> said, I may bump when more parts get added.
>
> For photos, go to https://photos.app.goo.gl/S8tJbznRhfbCqHSh9.
>
> Prices in the spreadsheet are all OBO, so let's make a deal! You pay
> actual shipping from W. Oregon.
>
> -Eric
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The Wilson Creek area is beautiful - but is pretty remote and about 1.5 hrs 
from Asheville. Closer to Asheville there are some great fire roads and 
mellow singe track at Bent Creek Experimental Forest that is connected to 
the NC Arboretum. I ride there all the time and it is just about perfect 
for a riv. It's also only about 15 min from downtown Asheville.   There's 
also a growing urban bike trail that includes roads, bike paths, and 
breweries lacing through town that is a fun way to get to know the town 
(and the beer). And, a new bike store named "Gravelo" just opened in town 
and although they don't sell rivs, they are very familiar with them and 
always ooh and aah appropriately when me and my other riv pals go in there. 
They are really a great group!  That's my. $.02!

On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:

> I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national forest 
> wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its a 70/30 
> mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow singletrack. 
> There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but those are 
> downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with paper maps, 
> so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the MTB project 
> website - "yancey ridge" 
>  to use their map 
> of the area as reference for the following description. Start at Beacon 
> Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House 
> gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house gap 
> rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. 
>
> Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd 
>  in 
> Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes 
> me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop 
>  along the 
> route if some folks wanted to opt for that. 
>
> late may? june? 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:
>
>> I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty 
>> often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. 
>> Asheville or Boone would be good with me!
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:
>>>
 Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.

 River

 On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:

> I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, 
> but my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to 
> ride 
> in the area with other Riv-folk.
>
> Best,
> Eric 
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>
>> Be happy to come up to Boone too. 
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville for 
>>> a Riv-ride" column...
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>>
 I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things 
 (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it than 
 me as 
 she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all 
 that 
 well. Could be wrong about that. 

 Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as 
 far away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody wants 
 to 
 stay overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of 
 floorspace 
 for those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat 
 little 
 50's style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including 
 backcountry 
 in the Pisgah National Forest. 

 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for 
 various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old body 
 feels at the time. 

 Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They 
 could suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge 
 Parkway 
 which would mean out and back or arranging for some kind of shuttle 
 service. Parkway is beautiful. Lots of 'scenic overlook spots' every 
 few 
 miles. Hilly in lots of places. As best I can recall the elevation 
 along 
 the ridge near us is 3 to 5,000 feet. Riding up to the Parkway and 
 back 
 from Bre

[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Oh, and one other detail I forgot to mention is that there's a really nice 
campground at Bent Creek - although it fills up pretty quickly in the 
summer. Lots of chain hotels around Bent Creek too.


On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:39:47 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:

> The Wilson Creek area is beautiful - but is pretty remote and about 1.5 
> hrs from Asheville. Closer to Asheville there are some great fire roads and 
> mellow singe track at Bent Creek Experimental Forest that is connected to 
> the NC Arboretum. I ride there all the time and it is just about perfect 
> for a riv. It's also only about 15 min from downtown Asheville.   There's 
> also a growing urban bike trail that includes roads, bike paths, and 
> breweries lacing through town that is a fun way to get to know the town 
> (and the beer). And, a new bike store named "Gravelo" just opened in town 
> and although they don't sell rivs, they are very familiar with them and 
> always ooh and aah appropriately when me and my other riv pals go in there. 
> They are really a great group!  That's my. $.02!
>
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:
>
>> I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national forest 
>> wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its a 70/30 
>> mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow singletrack. 
>> There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but those are 
>> downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with paper maps, 
>> so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the MTB project 
>> website - "yancey ridge" 
>>  to use their map 
>> of the area as reference for the following description. Start at Beacon 
>> Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House 
>> gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house gap 
>> rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. 
>>
>> Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd 
>>  in 
>> Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes 
>> me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop 
>>  along the 
>> route if some folks wanted to opt for that. 
>>
>> late may? june? 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:
>>
>>> I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty 
>>> often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. 
>>> Asheville or Boone would be good with me!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?

 On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:

> Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.
>
> River
>
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>
>> I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, 
>> but my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to 
>> ride 
>> in the area with other Riv-folk.
>>
>> Best,
>> Eric 
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>
>>> Be happy to come up to Boone too. 
>>>
>>> Dick
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville 
 for a Riv-ride" column...

 On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:

> I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things 
> (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it than 
> me as 
> she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all 
> that 
> well. Could be wrong about that. 
>
> Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as 
> far away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody wants 
> to 
> stay overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of 
> floorspace 
> for those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat 
> little 
> 50's style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including 
> backcountry 
> in the Pisgah National Forest. 
>
> 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for 
> various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old 
> body 
> feels at the time. 
>
> Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They 
> could suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge 
>>

[RBW] Re: FS - Acorn Large Front Trunk Bag

[Matt Beecher]

I sent a message this morning, but never heard back.  I'm assuming it may 
have already sold.  

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 5:13:03 PM UTC-6 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> I posted this on the i-BOB list a couple weeks ago, but no takers there. I 
> wish to repost it here and drop the price by $20:
> A somewhat rare "limited edition" production run, black waxed canvas in 
> very good condition. I have owned over a dozen Acorn bags and am a 
> believer. Just a guess, but I suspect this model proved to be too costly 
> to 
> produce for very long.
> 170 mm tall x 300 mm long x 140 mm wide. Two zippered side pockets 
> protected from the elements by the top flap. Six attachment rings. 
> Internal 
> molded plastic stiffeners in front, back, bottom and sides. I have added 
> thin foam sheets inside which quiet things down nicely. Easily removed. 
> A slight circular ghost image of a P. Williamson "Goathead" patch remains 
> on the top flap. Also, a half-dozen small pin holes where small 
> commemorative pins were installed.
> $80 plus $17.10 for USPS Flat Rate Priority box shipping, CONUS. Or if you 
> wish, I will check your zip to see if shipping can be lowered.
> PayPal preferred but check is fine too.)  PM me with any questions.
> Photos in sunlight and in shadow: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720306262139
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>

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[RBW] Re: Long ride on a Sam Hillborne

[Eric Marth]

Congrats, Paul, that's a nice ride! 

Thanks for the pics!

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 8:25:29 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
>
>
>
> This picture gives some perspective on the fantastic Elephant mural.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>

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[RBW] FS: DaVinci Billeted Cranks and Frost River Vintage Backpack

[Dave Grossman]

I'm building my son his first "grown up bike", a 13" Trek 950 Singletrack 
frame and am raising money for the build.

First up are Davinci cranks.  These are 170mm and 104 BCD.  You can order 
different spiders from Davinci.  These are light, strong, and beautiful.  
Billeted and made in the USA.  Low Q factor.  I bought them a few years ago 
to run on my Hunq but I have been using my XD2s as I like the ring options 
of a 110 BCD.

Asking $200 shipped CONUS via Priority Mail

Next up is a Frost River Vintage Pack.  Made in Duluth, a huge pack 
designed for all sorts of adventure.  18 oz waxed canvas.  Classic and 
beautiful.

Asking $165 shipped CONUS via Priority Mail

Pics Here:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/wp6L5csuBViD2awW8

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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Pam Bikes]

I think we should stick to the Asheville area for the main ride.  I know 
Wilson Creek is beautiful.  I've hiked there.  I ride fully loaded and am 
not into hiking a bike.  Mine is too heavy.  I think we should shoot for a 
ride in Asheville at the end of June 
For those who want to do Wilson Creek would y'all want to a 2 part Riv 
event so people could choose one or the other or both?  I hope this pans 
out.  I'd love to see all these bikes.
On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 7:02:32 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:

> Oh, and one other detail I forgot to mention is that there's a really nice 
> campground at Bent Creek - although it fills up pretty quickly in the 
> summer. Lots of chain hotels around Bent Creek too.
>
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:39:47 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:
>
>> The Wilson Creek area is beautiful - but is pretty remote and about 1.5 
>> hrs from Asheville. Closer to Asheville there are some great fire roads and 
>> mellow singe track at Bent Creek Experimental Forest that is connected to 
>> the NC Arboretum. I ride there all the time and it is just about perfect 
>> for a riv. It's also only about 15 min from downtown Asheville.   There's 
>> also a growing urban bike trail that includes roads, bike paths, and 
>> breweries lacing through town that is a fun way to get to know the town 
>> (and the beer). And, a new bike store named "Gravelo" just opened in town 
>> and although they don't sell rivs, they are very familiar with them and 
>> always ooh and aah appropriately when me and my other riv pals go in there. 
>> They are really a great group!  That's my. $.02!
>>
>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:
>>
>>> I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national forest 
>>> wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its a 70/30 
>>> mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow singletrack. 
>>> There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but those are 
>>> downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with paper maps, 
>>> so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the MTB project 
>>> website - "yancey ridge" 
>>>  to use their 
>>> map of the area as reference for the following description. Start at Beacon 
>>> Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House 
>>> gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house gap 
>>> rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. 
>>>
>>> Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd 
>>>  in 
>>> Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes 
>>> me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop 
>>>  along 
>>> the route if some folks wanted to opt for that. 
>>>
>>> late may? june? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:
>>>
 I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty 
 often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. 
 Asheville or Boone would be good with me!

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?
>
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:
>
>> Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.
>>
>> River
>>
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>>
>>> I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, 
>>> but my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to 
>>> ride 
>>> in the area with other Riv-folk.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Eric 
>>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:
>>>
 Be happy to come up to Boone too. 

 Dick

 On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville 
> for a Riv-ride" column...
>
> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle 
> wrote:
>
>> I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things 
>> (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it 
>> than me as 
>> she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all 
>> that 
>> well. Could be wrong about that. 
>>
>> Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as 
>> far away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody 
>> wants to 
>> stay overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of 
>> flo

[RBW] Re: Long ride on a Sam Hillborne

[larson....@gmail.com]

Well done! I think anyone would be proud of riding 73 miles.
Randy in Wisconsin
On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 7:34:40 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Congrats, Paul, that's a nice ride! 
>
> Thanks for the pics!
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 8:25:29 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This picture gives some perspective on the fantastic Elephant mural.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Michael Hammer]

Skinny tires on those tandems!  Times have changed.  Seems like a lot of 
bike for those tires.  

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:43:34 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Am I understanding that this is you and your son, Jock? You could be 
> *brothers. 
> *What great photos and a great story. Though I will say that first photo 
> of you and the little guy has me thinking he might have been safer stuffed 
> in a Backabike bag of his own, but it was the 80s! 
>
> L
>
> On Mar 5, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Jock Dewey  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/
>
> Jock Dewey
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
>> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
>> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
>> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
>> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
>> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
>> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
>> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
>> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
>> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
>> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
>> tiny family members.
>>
>> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
>> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
>> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
>> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>>
>> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
>> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
>> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
>> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
>> Leah
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: More wool clothes - Kitsbow Icon, REI Jacket, BSA Wool Jacket

[Michael Ullmer]

Kitsbow is sold, other two remain with price drops:

2) REI Wool Blend Jacket Mens Medium - $25

3) Boy Scouts of America Wool Jacket - $20

Or both for $40

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Here are some more items that didn't make the cut this winter:
>
> 1) Kitsbow Icon Mens Medium - Sedona Ombre, Signature Fit - $160
> --In great shape, no rips/tears. Some fuzz and pilling that can be cleaned 
> up. Their signature fit is a bit tighter than a regular fit, lots more info 
> on the Kitsbow site on this one. One of the best cycling flannels available.
>
> 2) REI Wool Blend Jacket Mens Medium - $30
> --This is an older model made in Canada. Wool blend jacket (tag is faded 
> so I can't determine blend amounts) reminiscent of Ibex jackets I've used 
> in the past. I intended this to be a chore jacket, but a friend gifted me a 
> Filson jacket for that purpose instead. In great shape, no stains that I 
> can see. Fits well as a layering piece with a flannel or sweater underneath.
>
> 3) Boy Scouts of America Wool Jacket - $25
> --This is labeled as a size 42, it fits me well as a layering piece and I 
> usually wear medium clothes. This is a thick wool jacket, great red 
> buttons, two flap pockets. There's some stains on the outside that I 
> haven't tried to get out but assume are semi-permanent. I used this as a 
> chore jacket for in the garage.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SELK7K5zmvBDNN9CA
>
> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping. I'll plan on using 
> Pirateship
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Jock Dewey]

Michael, the tires on our Santana were 27" @ 28 mm wide mounted on 48 spoke 
wheels front/rear. We punctured only once in just under 2,000 
miles—Anacortes, WA to Thief River Falls, MN...on a gravel road into 
Glacier NP. Quite a machine that was. We never touched our tool set.

BEST / Jock


On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:25:42 PM UTC-8 Michael Hammer wrote:

> Skinny tires on those tandems!  Times have changed.  Seems like a lot of 
> bike for those tires.  
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:43:34 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Am I understanding that this is you and your son, Jock? You could be 
>> *brothers. 
>> *What great photos and a great story. Though I will say that first photo 
>> of you and the little guy has me thinking he might have been safer stuffed 
>> in a Backabike bag of his own, but it was the 80s! 
>>
>> L
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Jock Dewey  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/
>>
>> Jock Dewey
>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
>>> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
>>> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
>>> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
>>> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
>>> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
>>> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
>>> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
>>> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
>>> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
>>> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
>>> tiny family members.
>>>
>>> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
>>> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
>>> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
>>> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>>>
>>> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
>>> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
>>> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
>>> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Acorn Large Front Trunk Bag

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I just saw your quick response on PayPal, Matt. Thanks. Sorry for the delay 
today. I will see the package off tomorrow and alter you to the tracking number 
and expected delivery, which should be two days.
This has been a good - and fun - bag since I purchased it. I hope you can get 
lots of use from it. If not satisfied, let me know.
Paul Germain


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From: Matt Beecher 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Sun, Mar 5, 2023 8:06 pm
Subject: [RBW] Re: FS - Acorn Large Front Trunk Bag

I sent a message this morning, but never heard back.  I'm assuming it may have 
already sold.  

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 5:13:03 PM UTC-6 Bikie#4646 wrote:

I posted this on the i-BOB list a couple weeks ago, but no takers there. I wish 
to repost it here and drop the price by $20:A somewhat rare "limited edition" 
production run, black waxed canvas in 
very good condition. I have owned over a dozen Acorn bags and am a 
believer. Just a guess, but I suspect this model proved to be too costly to 
produce for very long.
170 mm tall x 300 mm long x 140 mm wide. Two zippered side pockets 
protected from the elements by the top flap. Six attachment rings. Internal 
molded plastic stiffeners in front, back, bottom and sides. I have added 
thin foam sheets inside which quiet things down nicely. Easily removed. 
A slight circular ghost image of a P. Williamson "Goathead" patch remains 
on the top flap. Also, a half-dozen small pin holes where small 
commemorative pins were installed.
$80 plus $17.10 for USPS Flat Rate Priority box shipping, CONUS. Or if you 
wish, I will check your zip to see if shipping can be lowered.
PayPal preferred but check is fine too.)  PM me with any questions.
Photos in sunlight and in shadow: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720306262139
Thanks,Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, confused on size/epoch

[Jeffery S]

Thanks for the geometry chart Garth. The 58 size details on that seem to 
line up best with what I have. And thanks for the info on how the frames 
are measured, Eric. Good to know it's C-T instead of C-C. Definitely clears 
up some confusion with the measurements.

I'm tinkering with the configuration and installing set of drop bars is now 
on the list. I better get some back stretches in too, ha!



On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:31:20 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Jeffrey — How are you measuring? Rivendell measures from center of the 
> bottom bracket spindle to the top of the seat lug (at the low point, if it 
> swoops down) like shown in the picture below. 
>
> Grab your metric tape and get measuring! 
>
> [image: Screenshot 2023-03-05 at 8.23.45 PM.png]
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 1:58:43 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> 2016 chart with stack heights and reach. The 62 doesn't offer much in the 
>> way of extra reach, 1 cm, but at least the stack height goes up 
>> commensurate with the taller frame. 2.4cm of extra front-center. 
>>
>> It's not necessarily that the 58 is too small for you, that depends on 
>> your saddle position, reach and height to the bars where your hands will 
>> be, and your flexibility/core strength to comfortably ride in said 
>> position. You just can't dumb it down to cliche's and size charts and 
>> expect it to fit anyone but by dumb luck. If you're buying a bike like that 
>> it's highly likely you already own a bike of some kind. Use that as a 
>> comparison tool. It may be the Sam doesn't fit a buyer in any size, not 
>> enough reach, for example. Riv road frames doesn't have a lot of it. 
>>
>>
>> So as mentioned, you may as well try a drop bar with your 58. If you use 
>> a quill stem adapter and zero or plus 6-10 degree rise stem you'll get 
>> enough height. With a negative rise stem on a small frame . that's 
>> counterproductive. 
>>
>> And that's the story for today .. yippee ! 
>> [image: RivGeoChart_2016_2048x2048.jpg]
>>
>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 10:50:53 AM UTC-5 Jeffery S wrote:
>>
>>> All good, I have the same questions about fit I guess. That is a 
>>> handsome ride, those red accents are a nice contrast with the frame.
>>>
>>> Saddle height measures 81.5 cm and the crank is 175. I commute in boots 
>>> with a little thicker sole than sneakers.
>>> Here's a photo from the web of a 58cm in black w/ cream head tube. Doing 
>>> a quick photoshop overlay does match up with with mine.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 9:39:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 What I meant to say in my pointless ramble there is that there is 
 nothing about your PBH that suggests a 58cm Sam is too small for you. But 
 that saddle height makes me wonder...



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[RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[R. Alexis]

That is funny! There is some insistence early on to get the ones we are 
close to involved with our cycling lifestyle. Fixed up a bike for a crazy 
girlfriend way back when from a bike I bought used with a bent fork. 
Replaced the fork. She may have rode it once or twice. I don't remember. We 
broke up and she tried to take it along with other stuff some time after, 
probably with the thought of selling it. I blocked that. Next girlfriend 
rode it a couple times. I built her a different bike. She may have rode 
that one a couple times. Brought home another bike for her and she never 
got a chance to ride it. Last recent person I had a relationship with 
stated she never learned to ride a bike because her brother would take and 
destroy the bike she had when they were young. She also self proclaimed to 
be pretty clumsy. I didn't want push the issue. Last I wanted was to have 
her wipe out and get hurt. That relationship went by the wayside, so 
nothing to worry about now. Was interacting with someone else and that 
person mentioned she has knee issues that prevent riding a bike. I 
mentioned e-bike to her. 

Your kids will probably remember it as a positive adventure. You are better 
aware now. Offer, but not push is the thing. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis



On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 8:23:32 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
> tiny family members.
>
> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>
> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
> Leah
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The Great Parts Purge of 2023 - part 1

[R. Alexis]

PM sent on SRAM mini group and SRAM 10 speed rear der pictured. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 11:22:32 PM UTC-6 saintruggler wrote:

> Doing a little spring cleaning. Lots of bobs and bits, including 
> chainrings (oooh!) and shiny levers (a!) and even a few shifty doodads 
> from the modern era.
>
> All parts are listed in a Google Sheet here: 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iUsY8V8ZtkDKj393jP5d9vsX_P8YSxadZqcT6jcH3QY/
>
> Send me a direct message if there's something you want. I will update the 
> sheet itself and probably won't send "sold" notices via the list. That 
> said, I may bump when more parts get added.
>
> For photos, go to https://photos.app.goo.gl/S8tJbznRhfbCqHSh9. 
>
> Prices in the spreadsheet are all OBO, so let's make a deal! You pay 
> actual shipping from W. Oregon.
>
> -Eric
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Re: [RBW] Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Roberta]

I loved these stories. Leah, I was laughing so hard. Something got thru, as 
your teenage children still ride today, on Rivendells. Dayton might not 
have liked the backabike bag, but probably preferred it than to be left at 
home. 

Frahm30, your daughter’s smile says it all. Even if you had to leave right 
after the hot chocolate. 

Jock, adorable and inspirational. 

Roberta

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 9:40:18 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ok, first up. 
>
> This is the inaugural ride of my Betty Foy. I was living in Southern 
> California at the time and had arrived home with my new bike after picking 
> it up at RBW HQ in late 2012. I decided to make us all ride our bikes to 
> church that Sunday morning. Please note how tiny my littler boy is. I saw 
> this photo and remembered how many times I insisted he was not pedaling 
> hard enough when we were riding up the hills. For Pete’s sake, the kid was 
> 3 years old and weighed like 30 pounds. I was certain he was not doing his 
> part.
> [image: image0.png]
>
> You’ll notice my older son, who was almost always smiling and never 
> complaining, has this Haro bike. It was the best we could get because he 
> was too small for most everything else. It was a BMX bike, and probably not 
> well-suited to what we were doing. However, I’ll draw your attention to the 
> next photo…
>
> [image: image1.png]
>
> Which is this one. Look at this atrocity. We are visiting my parents, and 
> they have sweetly bought him this new bike from the best sporting goods 
> store in town. Pacific was supposedly made by the Schwinn people, the only 
> reputable bike company we knew of by name. If it said Schwinn, it must be 
> quality. This said Pacific, which meant Schwinn, so it was clearly quality. 
> We had no idea at the time how monstrously heavy this bike was. Look at my 
> tiny boy, suffering with every pedal stroke. The bike was way too big for 
> him (“He’ll make it work, it’s what I did as a kid,” said the helpful 
> salesman) and it outweighed him, easily. Is it even put together correctly? 
> Is the fork right? I don’t know, but my sunny child is clearly not enjoying 
> himself here. I’m sure I told him he was being ungrateful after his 
> grandparents bought him a brand new bike. And also, pedal harder. 😩
>
> Finally, these last two. I got my act together and ordered that Islabike 
> you see in the far right, so at least my poor kids were better off. But 
> what about our dog?! Here he is, stuffed unceremoniously into a Backabike 
> bag. I knew it was a bad idea but I consoled myself by believing it was the 
> dog’s fault. He was desperate to come along and was making quite a fuss. 
> His riding basket was full of backpacks, so this was the only way. 
>
> [image: image2.jpeg]
> Also, here is he again, all 15 pounds of him, with a heavy wooden 
> skateboard laying across his back. I’m sure he felt every bump. I am also 
> sure that I was feeling smug for figuring out how to carry all this stuff 
> on my bike. 
> [image: image3.png]
>
> I’m sure there are more of these regrettable photos, and when I find them, 
> I’ll put them here. In the meantime, go ahead and post your guilty bike 
> life memories/photos here. I could use the company. 
>
> Leah
>
> On Mar 4, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
> tiny family members.
>
>
> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>
> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
> Leah
>
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