Re: [RBW] Re: Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[Justin Kennedy]

Ah I was hoping for a set in black so gonna have to pass. Thanks tho.

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 9:11 PM Hoch in ut  wrote:

>
> I have one in silver. Brand new. I purchased it new and was waiting for a
> frame to come along. I wouldn’t mind keeping it but I could be talked into
> letting it go as I don’t see getting a new frame anytime soon. I’d like to
> get what I initially paid ($130) plus shipping. (I paid shipping/taxes on
> top of that).  Let me know if anyone is in need of one.
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 9:54:56 AM UTC-6 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn,
> NY) wrote:
>
>> Anyone have a spare set of these bars they're looking to unload? Very
>> interested in these for a new cargo bike build. Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:22:21 PM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the replies everyone. As an FYI, I'm a bit of a smaller guy,
>>> but bought these because I enjoyed my Albatross bars with the only knock on
>>> them being that they were too narrow and I felt cramped with them even with
>>> a 120mm stem. My hope was that these bars would give some of the benefits I
>>> enjoyed with the Albatrossbut wider.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 11:41:24 UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a
 wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail
 riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to
 lean into the bars a bit more off road.)

 On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.
> I wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on 
> a
> daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a
> 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, 
> they
> even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them
> if you don't want bar end shifters.
>
> Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going
> to depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's
> physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like
> any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the
> exact same geometry.
>
> The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy
> with broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal 
> grip
> posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or 
> so
> has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the
> tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a
> longer tem - which are hard to find.
>
> Let us know what you think.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>
>> Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able
>> to track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real
>> thought and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to 
>> hear
>> others thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to
>> switch out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you
>> set them up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?
>>
>> Thanks all!
>>
>> Oh, and for reference, here they are:
>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar
>>
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[RBW] Re: Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[Hoch in ut]

I have one in silver. Brand new. I purchased it new and was waiting for a 
frame to come along. I wouldn’t mind keeping it but I could be talked into 
letting it go as I don’t see getting a new frame anytime soon. I’d like to 
get what I initially paid ($130) plus shipping. (I paid shipping/taxes on 
top of that).  Let me know if anyone is in need of one. 
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 9:54:56 AM UTC-6 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> Anyone have a spare set of these bars they're looking to unload? Very 
> interested in these for a new cargo bike build. Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:22:21 PM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the replies everyone. As an FYI, I'm a bit of a smaller guy, 
>> but bought these because I enjoyed my Albatross bars with the only knock on 
>> them being that they were too narrow and I felt cramped with them even with 
>> a 120mm stem. My hope was that these bars would give some of the benefits I 
>> enjoyed with the Albatrossbut wider.
>>
>> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 11:41:24 UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a 
>>> wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail 
>>> riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to 
>>> lean into the bars a bit more off road.)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.  I 
 wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on a 
 daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a 
 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, 
 they 
 even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them 
 if you don't want bar end shifters.  

 Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going 
 to depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's 
 physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like 
 any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the 
 exact same geometry.

 The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy with 
 broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal grip 
 posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or 
 so 
 has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the 
 tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a 
 longer tem - which are hard to find.

 Let us know what you think.



 On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:

> Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able 
> to track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real 
> thought and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to 
> hear 
> others thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to 
> switch out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you 
> set them up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Oh, and for reference, here they are: 
> https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar
>


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[RBW] FS: Nitto Lamp Holder 2-70 - 26.0mm

[Conway Bennett]

Like it says, I have a Nitto Lamp Holder 2-70 - 26.0mm in excellent used 
condition and no plans for it.  $65 net to me shipped in the lower 48.  If 
you're not familiar,  it's a fare more elegant solution to foam spacer 
blocks.  This is what it looks like: 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185831435739?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=eKv_SppTTh2&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=eKv_SppTTh2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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Re: [RBW] Front Derailleur Suggestions

[Kieran J]

My favourite FD for this type of scenario is the Dura-Ace 7400 double. It 
works amazing on a compact wide-range crankset. Cheap as chips too.

KJ

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 4:27:43 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:

> On my Rambouillet, I use the 9 speed Ultegra FD which the FD in the photo 
> is a copy of. The smallest large chainring I can use is 48 teeth. The 
> reason that's the smallest is the tail end of the derailleur will hit the 
> chainstay if I position it lower. And if I used smaller rings the gap 
> between the bottom edge of the outer plate would be too large and the 
> derailleur then couldn't control movement of the chain between the 
> chainrings. 
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 6:50 PM Matthew Williams  
> wrote:
>
>> Crankset and chainrings:
>>
>> SIlver 173
>> 44 x 34 x 24
>>
>>
>> [image: 665_1857.JPG]
>>
>> Crank - Silver - Triple 44x34x24 
>> 
>> rivbike.com 
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2023, at 3:05 PM, Peter White  wrote:
>>
>> Modern triple FDs are designed for a specific combination of chainrings. 
>> For example, the IRD FD in the photo is an exact copy of the Shimano 9 
>> speed Ultegra Triple and 105 Triple FDs. Probably made by the same company 
>> that made it for Shimano. The bottom edges of the derailleur plates are 
>> properly spaced for the 10 tooth difference between the outer and middle 
>> chainrings of the Ultegra and 105 9 speed triple cranksets; 52 and 42 teeth 
>> respectively. When properly installed, the bottom edges of the derailleur 
>> will be about 1mm to 2mm above the tips of the chainring teeth when 
>> shifting between the outer and middle rings. So this FD only shifts well if 
>> the middle and outer rings have a 10 tooth difference. If, for example, 
>> they have a 12 tooth difference, and you have the FD high enough for the 
>> outer plate to clear the outer chainring, the inner plate will have a 
>> larger gap to the middle ring and the shift from the inner ring will not be 
>> good. With a 14 tooth difference, it's hopeless. You'll have to over-shift 
>> to get the chain cleanly onto the middle chainring.
>>
>> So, to answer the original question, we need to know what chainring sizes 
>> are on the crankset in question.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 1:04 PM Matthew Williams  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I need to replace my stock Rivendell front derailleur. Can someone 
>>> please recommend a good front derailleur?
>>>
>>> Here’s my existing setup:
>>>
>>> Appaloosa
>>> Rivendell Silver crankset and 3 rings
>>> Rear cassette: Shimano XTR 11-34T 
>>> Rear derailleur: Shimano Deore long cage
>>>
>>> With the exception of the rear cassette, all of the components came 
>>> stock with the bike.
>>>
>>> I picked up a Shimano Altus FD-M311 at the swap meet. Will this work for 
>>> my setup? Does a better option exist? Please let me know your 
>>> recommendations, advice, opinions, and experience!
>>>
>>> Thanks, everyone.
>>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:45:08 AM UTC-8 mmille...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've been having a heckuva time getting my front derailleur to go from 
 little to big without hopping over. Eventually, if I talked sweetly to it 
 and said Hail Mary three times, it would usually settle. Even took it to 
 an 
 experience mechanic. He also lowered it, then slowly kept raising it up, 
 and also kept working the limit screw. A fraction of a turn was difference 
 between not reaching the big ring, or going over!

 It's a White Industries VBC with 46-28. FD is IRD compact triple 
 Aplina. Friction Microshift thumbie. I think it's bottom pull. 

 [image: IMG_2391 Medium.jpeg]

 Any suggestions for different FD? May need different chain rings 
 because of that big jump, but if I do that, I may be best off buying 
 something else and selling these.

 Thanks,
 Matt

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil - first ride and work in progress (some photos)

[Chris L]

I've found that the 71cm Jones Bar with his grips is a fantastic setup for 
my Hunqapillar.  LOVE the look of the Bullmoose, though!  

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 11:46:51 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> That's a great idea, that's what I have on the Jones bar... I'll swap 'em 
> out and try that. Thanks John!
>
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 12:37:59 PM UTC-4 John Johnson wrote:
>
>> Hello Max!
>>
>> Nice Bombadil and great photos. 
>>
>> For the bullmoose, I find that ergo grips (ergon or anything with a 
>> paddle under your palms) help with the position. Maybe worth a try?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 6:11:20 PM UTC+2 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> The weather is turning and I finally "finished" my Bombadil build. It's 
>>> not quite finished because I'm not 100% sure I'll keep the Bullmoose 
>>> handlebars - they are very stiff which is great, but the angle isn't ideal 
>>> for my wrists, we'll see but I think the Jones bar is more comfortable for 
>>> me. I might also explore a super wide drop from Crust called the Nullabar. 
>>> I'm also curious about some drivetrain changes, more on that in a future 
>>> thread.
>>>
>>> I acquired the bike in January from a fellow in California who didn't 
>>> seem to be riding it much. This is how it came:
>>>
>>> [image: bomba2.jpg]
>>>
>>> I've started feeling more comfortable wrenching on my bikes (thanks 
>>> Jason for the encouragement!) and did all of the work myself - ordering 
>>> some parts from Riv, BlueLug and Crust. You've seen some pics over the last 
>>> couple of months, but I want to officially introduce it in its new 
>>> iteration. 
>>>
>>> Yesterday I went out on a mixed terrain ride, first some pavement before 
>>> arriving to the Middlesex Fells, a reservation with lots of trails and bike 
>>> friendly gravel - I started following this route from UrbanDirt 
>>>  (pretty cool site with 
>>> hubs in a few cities) but didn't finish it because i had to get back home. 
>>> They have some really cool Ride-with-GPS routes you can follow, highly 
>>> recommended.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9934.jpeg]
>>>
>>> After getting to the entrance of the Fells, I started thinking that 
>>> perhaps this wasn't ideal for my slick tires and fenders. Many of the 
>>> trails had big rocks and require you to dismount and walk (see below) but I 
>>> guess that's part of the fun so I kept going.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9918.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9923.jpeg]
>>>
>>> I walked up the slope and then started riding a winding gravel path with 
>>> some smaller rocks. There were some wet / muddy patches but overall it was 
>>> all very enjoyable and the bike handled great.
>>>
>>> [image: 4EEC3310-9B05-419E-9A9D-3B2F0A9E8D1D.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9930.jpeg]
>>>
>>> I think the cockpit is ideal for this type of riding, which leaves me 
>>> wishing the wrist position would be an issue. I'll give it more miles 
>>> before deciding what to do.
>>>
>>> I had to lower the bar quite a bit from my initial position because I 
>>> wanted to use my Rod Steward (Pec Deck v2) and if I had the bars higher up, 
>>> it just wouldn't reach. I'll take it off and try with the bars higher. It's 
>>> also very close to the Paul canti arms, so maybe not the best fit for this 
>>> build.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9935.jpeg]
>>>
>>> When I stopped following the route and started following my GPS to get 
>>> home, I ended up going through some areas that weren't very bike friendly - 
>>> after the photo below. I had to carry the bike up a slope and ended up in a 
>>> place with huge rocks. Once I crossed I rode a bit more and hit the main 
>>> road which brought me back home.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9941.jpeg]
>>>
>>> All in all, the bike was amazing throughout the 13.5 mile ride. I feel 
>>> incredibly lucky to have found this rare 2TT on my size! Can't wait to go 
>>> out again.
>>>
>>> Max near Boston.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

[Ted Durant]

Thanks! Green grass, blue skies, white clouds… another couple of months and 
we’ll have that here in Wisconsin!


Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

> On Mar 27, 2023, at 5:51 PM, John Rinker  wrote:
> 
> Yowza Ted, that Breadwinner is a beaut! Great color scheme.
> 
> Cheers, John
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[RBW] Re: Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

[John Rinker]

Yowza Ted, that Breadwinner is a beaut! Great color scheme.

Cheers, John

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:44:05 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> Well, either people are being quiet, or they are busy, or maybe they are 
> like me, still getting snow. We had 10" (40cm) Saturday. It hasn't warmed 
> up much but it's been sunny, so the roads are clear and mostly dry. The 
> wind was off the lake, so it was a pretty brisk ride today. On the Blues 
> Trail, for music fans. It's not actually a trail, though. Just a nice spot 
> on the road, next to a scenic little waterfall.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee (well, Grafton in the photo here) Wisconsin USA
> [image: IMG_1123.jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] PSA. Gringineer Cycles vintage parts site

[Patrick Moore]

Oh oh! And Avid Tri-Aligns! And 110 bcd Ritchey Logic 175mm! I can hardly
stand it!

Patrick "bookmark mode" Moore

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 3:56 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Oh, and is that 1994 Marin Team Issue titanium or aluminum? Google didn't
> help.
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 3:54 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Nuke Proof! Ringle! What about Grafton? The site brings back memories.
>> Thanks for posting the link.
>>
>> For those interested in converting a NORBA-type 26" rigid mtb into a nice
>> all-rounder, the site has some nice possibilities.
>>
>> Specialized M2 frames: These came out in the very early 1990s, about the
>> same time I got my very nice indeed steel 1990 SJ Comp and even nicer *tout
>> Prestige* hex-butted-in-every-possible-way 1991 SJ Team. Even in 1991 I
>> sniffed disapprovingly of aluminum, but were the M2 frames good ones?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 10:52 AM maxcr  wrote:
>>
>>> I fell down the Suntour rabbit hole and stumbled into this site -
>>> thought you'd enjoy it: https://www.gringineer.com/
>>>
>>> I haven't bought anything, but they have some nice things including NOS
>>> Suntour parts, etc and free shipping.
>>>
>>> Seems legit and I saw the owner Joel has an LBS in Minnesota and an
>>> appreciation for vintage bikes and parts. I emailed him looking for a
>>> silver 1" Suntour brake hanger and he was very responsive
>>>
>>> Anyone from the area know them?
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
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Re: [RBW] PSA. Gringineer Cycles vintage parts site

[Patrick Moore]

Oh, and is that 1994 Marin Team Issue titanium or aluminum? Google didn't
help.

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 3:54 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Nuke Proof! Ringle! What about Grafton? The site brings back memories.
> Thanks for posting the link.
>
> For those interested in converting a NORBA-type 26" rigid mtb into a nice
> all-rounder, the site has some nice possibilities.
>
> Specialized M2 frames: These came out in the very early 1990s, about the
> same time I got my very nice indeed steel 1990 SJ Comp and even nicer *tout
> Prestige* hex-butted-in-every-possible-way 1991 SJ Team. Even in 1991 I
> sniffed disapprovingly of aluminum, but were the M2 frames good ones?
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 10:52 AM maxcr  wrote:
>
>> I fell down the Suntour rabbit hole and stumbled into this site - thought
>> you'd enjoy it: https://www.gringineer.com/
>>
>> I haven't bought anything, but they have some nice things including NOS
>> Suntour parts, etc and free shipping.
>>
>> Seems legit and I saw the owner Joel has an LBS in Minnesota and an
>> appreciation for vintage bikes and parts. I emailed him looking for a
>> silver 1" Suntour brake hanger and he was very responsive
>>
>> Anyone from the area know them?
>>
>> Max
>>
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Re: [RBW] PSA. Gringineer Cycles vintage parts site

[Patrick Moore]

Nuke Proof! Ringle! What about Grafton? The site brings back memories.
Thanks for posting the link.

For those interested in converting a NORBA-type 26" rigid mtb into a nice
all-rounder, the site has some nice possibilities.

Specialized M2 frames: These came out in the very early 1990s, about the
same time I got my very nice indeed steel 1990 SJ Comp and even nicer *tout
Prestige* hex-butted-in-every-possible-way 1991 SJ Team. Even in 1991 I
sniffed disapprovingly of aluminum, but were the M2 frames good ones?

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 10:52 AM maxcr  wrote:

> I fell down the Suntour rabbit hole and stumbled into this site - thought
> you'd enjoy it: https://www.gringineer.com/
>
> I haven't bought anything, but they have some nice things including NOS
> Suntour parts, etc and free shipping.
>
> Seems legit and I saw the owner Joel has an LBS in Minnesota and an
> appreciation for vintage bikes and parts. I emailed him looking for a
> silver 1" Suntour brake hanger and he was very responsive
>
> Anyone from the area know them?
>
> Max
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[RBW] Re: PSA. Gringineer Cycles vintage parts site

[Craig Montgomery]

Holey Moley, this guy's making bucks off stuff I've just got hangin' around 
in my shed!

Craig-not much of a capitalist-in Tucson
On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 9:52:33 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:

> I fell down the Suntour rabbit hole and stumbled into this site - thought 
> you'd enjoy it: https://www.gringineer.com/
>
> I haven't bought anything, but they have some nice things including NOS 
> Suntour parts, etc and free shipping.
>
> Seems legit and I saw the owner Joel has an LBS in Minnesota and an 
> appreciation for vintage bikes and parts. I emailed him looking for a 
> silver 1" Suntour brake hanger and he was very responsive
>
> Anyone from the area know them?
>
> Max
>

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Re: [RBW] PSA. Gringineer Cycles vintage parts site

[Doug H.]

Max, thank you for posting this link. I enjoyed looking through all of the 
vintage parts! I may even snag the black 26.8 RaceFace seatpost for my 
Clem. It will look nice with the black RaceFace Aeffect R crankset I have 
on order.
Doug

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 1:54:05 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Jah, nice shop and reputable sellers. You can buy direct, they're also on 
> eBay. Good source for vintage parts. 
>
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 1:19:18 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:
>
>> They’re very active on IG, responsive and seem legit. 
>>
>> Gringineer Cycles (@gringineercycles) • Instagram photos and videos 
>> 
>> instagram.com 
>> 
>> [image: 329290316_561187429146646_4030130879174494817_n.jpg] 
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2023, at 09:52, maxcr  wrote:
>>
>> I fell down the Suntour rabbit hole and stumbled into this site - 
>> thought you'd enjoy it: https://www.gringineer.com/
>>
>>
>> I haven't bought anything, but they have some nice things including NOS 
>> Suntour parts, etc and free shipping.
>>
>> Seems legit and I saw the owner Joel has an LBS in Minnesota and an 
>> appreciation for vintage bikes and parts. I emailed him looking for a 
>> silver 1" Suntour brake hanger and he was very responsive
>>
>> Anyone from the area know them?
>>
>> Max
>>
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Re: [RBW] PSA. Gringineer Cycles vintage parts site

[Eric Marth]

Jah, nice shop and reputable sellers. You can buy direct, they're also on 
eBay. Good source for vintage parts. 

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 1:19:18 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:

> They’re very active on IG, responsive and seem legit. 
>
> Gringineer Cycles (@gringineercycles) • Instagram photos and videos 
> 
> instagram.com 
> [image: 329290316_561187429146646_4030130879174494817_n.jpg] 
>  
> 
>
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2023, at 09:52, maxcr  wrote:
>
> I fell down the Suntour rabbit hole and stumbled into this site - thought 
> you'd enjoy it: https://www.gringineer.com/
>
>
> I haven't bought anything, but they have some nice things including NOS 
> Suntour parts, etc and free shipping.
>
> Seems legit and I saw the owner Joel has an LBS in Minnesota and an 
> appreciation for vintage bikes and parts. I emailed him looking for a 
> silver 1" Suntour brake hanger and he was very responsive
>
> Anyone from the area know them?
>
> Max
>
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Re: [RBW] WTB - John’s Strap

[Keith P.]

What length Voile strap do you find you end up using the most?
I'll probably get a variety pack, but thought I'd ask the gang.

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 10:12:30 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:

> Thanks everyone for your suggestions! 
> Looking into them now.
> Sounds like having a few a Voile straps would be worth having around.
>
> Luke: Yeah, I have the Captain Hook net too. By far the best cargo/basket 
> net I've seen out there. I love the hooks and the gauge of the cord, just 
> don't like the color I have.
> Tried to dye it last night. Didn't work.
>
> k.
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:56:35 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>
>> If you want the fancy stuff: 
>> https://austeremanufacturing.com/collections/all-products these are 
>> gorgeous but I agree that voile straps get the job done
>> Max
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:33:22 AM UTC-4 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> +whatever for Voile straps. The itty bitty ones are great for attaching 
>>> bags to bars and saddles, and the long ones are great for just about 
>>> anything.
>>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 5:50:32 AM UTC-5 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>>>
 John's straps are the same as the classic Arno straps. If you don't 
 need the rainbow version, you can get them in black for cheap by the pair 
 at scamazon or wherever. I used to be able to get them at my Ace Hardware. 

 https://www.coghlans.com/arno-straps-24-7-2-pack-8424



 On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:05:51 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I use Rok Straps a lot on my cargo bike to secure loads. They stretch 
> nicely and cinch down securely. I’ve never had one slip. They come in a 
> variety of sizes and are relatively cheap. You can get them with 
> reflective 
> thread which is nice at night.
>
> I believe they were developed for motorcycle use so perfect on a 
> bicycle as well.
>
> [image: 
> 61eyLz1m9EL._SR600,315_PIWhiteStrip,BottomLeft,0,35_PIStarRatingFIVE,BottomLeft,360,-6_SR600,315_ZA1%2C263,445,290,400,400,AmazonEmberBold,12,4,0,0,5_SCLZZZ_FMpng_BG255,255,255.jpg]
>
> ROK Straps ROK-10358 Black/Reflective 12" - 42" Pack Adjustable 
> Stretch Strap 
> 
> amazon.com 
> 
>
> 
>
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Keith P.  wrote:
>
> Hey gang,
>
>
> I’m fed up with not having a few good straps around for maintenance 
> and securing cargo.
>
> Does anyone have any John’s straps in irish or watermelon to spare?
>
> I would love to purchase a couple if they are out there. 
>
> Also, if anyone has other strap recommendations or favorite solutions, 
> I would love to hear your thoughts.
>
> Thanks!
> K.
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Re: [RBW] PSA. Gringineer Cycles vintage parts site

[luckyturnip]

They’re very active on IG, responsive and seem legit. Gringineer Cycles (@gringineercycles) • Instagram photos and videosinstagram.comOn Mar 27, 2023, at 09:52, maxcr  wrote:I fell down the Suntour rabbit hole and stumbled into this site - thought you'd enjoy it: https://www.gringineer.com/I haven't bought anything, but they have some nice things including NOS Suntour parts, etc and free shipping.Seems legit and I saw the owner Joel has an LBS in Minnesota and an appreciation for vintage bikes and parts. I emailed him looking for a silver 1" Suntour brake hanger and he was very responsiveAnyone from the area know them?Max



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Re: [RBW] WTB - John’s Strap

[Keith P.]

Thanks everyone for your suggestions! 
Looking into them now.
Sounds like having a few a Voile straps would be worth having around.

Luke: Yeah, I have the Captain Hook net too. By far the best cargo/basket 
net I've seen out there. I love the hooks and the gauge of the cord, just 
don't like the color I have.
Tried to dye it last night. Didn't work.

k.
On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:56:35 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:

> If you want the fancy stuff: 
> https://austeremanufacturing.com/collections/all-products these are 
> gorgeous but I agree that voile straps get the job done
> Max
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:33:22 AM UTC-4 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> +whatever for Voile straps. The itty bitty ones are great for attaching 
>> bags to bars and saddles, and the long ones are great for just about 
>> anything.
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 5:50:32 AM UTC-5 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>>
>>> John's straps are the same as the classic Arno straps. If you don't need 
>>> the rainbow version, you can get them in black for cheap by the pair at 
>>> scamazon or wherever. I used to be able to get them at my Ace Hardware. 
>>>
>>> https://www.coghlans.com/arno-straps-24-7-2-pack-8424
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 12:05:51 AM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>>>
 I use Rok Straps a lot on my cargo bike to secure loads. They stretch 
 nicely and cinch down securely. I’ve never had one slip. They come in a 
 variety of sizes and are relatively cheap. You can get them with 
 reflective 
 thread which is nice at night.

 I believe they were developed for motorcycle use so perfect on a 
 bicycle as well.

 [image: 
 61eyLz1m9EL._SR600,315_PIWhiteStrip,BottomLeft,0,35_PIStarRatingFIVE,BottomLeft,360,-6_SR600,315_ZA1%2C263,445,290,400,400,AmazonEmberBold,12,4,0,0,5_SCLZZZ_FMpng_BG255,255,255.jpg]

 ROK Straps ROK-10358 Black/Reflective 12" - 42" Pack Adjustable Stretch 
 Strap 
 
 amazon.com 
 

 


 Robert Tilley
 San Diego, CA

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Keith P.  wrote:

 Hey gang,


 I’m fed up with not having a few good straps around for maintenance and 
 securing cargo.

 Does anyone have any John’s straps in irish or watermelon to spare?

 I would love to purchase a couple if they are out there. 

 Also, if anyone has other strap recommendations or favorite solutions, 
 I would love to hear your thoughts.

 Thanks!
 K.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[Eliot Balogh]

Check out Seattle/Portland Craiglist

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 8:55 AM Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) <
thesixtht...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone have a spare set of these bars they're looking to unload? Very
> interested in these for a new cargo bike build. Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:22:21 PM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the replies everyone. As an FYI, I'm a bit of a smaller guy,
>> but bought these because I enjoyed my Albatross bars with the only knock on
>> them being that they were too narrow and I felt cramped with them even with
>> a 120mm stem. My hope was that these bars would give some of the benefits I
>> enjoyed with the Albatrossbut wider.
>>
>> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 11:41:24 UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a
>>> wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail
>>> riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to
>>> lean into the bars a bit more off road.)
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.  I
 wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on a
 daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a
 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, they
 even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them
 if you don't want bar end shifters.

 Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going
 to depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's
 physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like
 any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the
 exact same geometry.

 The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy with
 broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal grip
 posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or so
 has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the
 tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a
 longer tem - which are hard to find.

 Let us know what you think.



 On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:

> Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able
> to track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real
> thought and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to 
> hear
> others thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to
> switch out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you
> set them up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Oh, and for reference, here they are:
> https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar
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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[christian poppell]

Hey Matthew, 

Smaller wire is fine. The wire that Velo Lumino sells is perfect. Any 22  
or 24gauge multistrand wire would work but the Velo Lumino wire is flexible 
and has very durable insulation. You could also seperate the BM dual strand 
wire. The insulation is thicker and less durable but works fine. 

If the hole diameter is too small to pull two wires you can ground through 
the frame. Ground one side of the dynamo to the fork eyelet 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/xBqTJ575zxQkeUC49 then ground one side of the 
light to the mount or other hard point 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wPGMviZF9n5cYycn6. Run a single wire through the 
fork and connect to the light. 

Hope that makes sense! I can draw up a diagram if thats helpful. How much 
wire do you need? I might have some to spare if needed. Also what light and 
dynamo are you using?

Christian
Phoenix, AZ

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 9:53:38 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> In the weeks to come I’m going to be revisiting the wire-inside-the-fork 
> trick. However, the hole is too small for the existing dynamo wires and I 
> do not want to enlarge the hole.
>
> What would happen if I used a smaller-gauge wire inside the fork, to 
> connect the dynamo to the headlight?
>
> Will a smaller-gauge wire be unable to handle the voltage/amperage from 
> the dynamo? Will the headlight and taillight outputs be weaker? Or will the 
> difference between the existing/stock wire and a smaller gauge be 
> imperceptible?
>
> As always, your wisdom, advice, experience, and opinions are appreciated!
>
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 10:13:40 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, 
>
> Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the right 
> front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the small 
> hole near the dropout. 
>
> I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I can 
> attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the fork, 
> unless the dynamo wire is too thick. Below are photos of the leader wire I 
> fished through the fork. 
>
> Is this possible, or is it a bad idea? Has anyone here managed to achieve 
> this setup? If so, how did you do it, and please post photos of your 
> internal wiring setups! 
>
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[RBW] PSA. Gringineer Cycles vintage parts site

[maxcr]

I fell down the Suntour rabbit hole and stumbled into this site - thought 
you'd enjoy it: https://www.gringineer.com/

I haven't bought anything, but they have some nice things including NOS 
Suntour parts, etc and free shipping.

Seems legit and I saw the owner Joel has an LBS in Minnesota and an 
appreciation for vintage bikes and parts. I emailed him looking for a 
silver 1" Suntour brake hanger and he was very responsive

Anyone from the area know them?

Max

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil - first ride and work in progress (some photos)

[maxcr]

That's a great idea, that's what I have on the Jones bar... I'll swap 'em 
out and try that. Thanks John!

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 12:37:59 PM UTC-4 John Johnson wrote:

> Hello Max!
>
> Nice Bombadil and great photos. 
>
> For the bullmoose, I find that ergo grips (ergon or anything with a paddle 
> under your palms) help with the position. Maybe worth a try?
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 6:11:20 PM UTC+2 maxcr wrote:
>
>> The weather is turning and I finally "finished" my Bombadil build. It's 
>> not quite finished because I'm not 100% sure I'll keep the Bullmoose 
>> handlebars - they are very stiff which is great, but the angle isn't ideal 
>> for my wrists, we'll see but I think the Jones bar is more comfortable for 
>> me. I might also explore a super wide drop from Crust called the Nullabar. 
>> I'm also curious about some drivetrain changes, more on that in a future 
>> thread.
>>
>> I acquired the bike in January from a fellow in California who didn't 
>> seem to be riding it much. This is how it came:
>>
>> [image: bomba2.jpg]
>>
>> I've started feeling more comfortable wrenching on my bikes (thanks Jason 
>> for the encouragement!) and did all of the work myself - ordering some 
>> parts from Riv, BlueLug and Crust. You've seen some pics over the last 
>> couple of months, but I want to officially introduce it in its new 
>> iteration. 
>>
>> Yesterday I went out on a mixed terrain ride, first some pavement before 
>> arriving to the Middlesex Fells, a reservation with lots of trails and bike 
>> friendly gravel - I started following this route from UrbanDirt 
>>  (pretty cool site with 
>> hubs in a few cities) but didn't finish it because i had to get back home. 
>> They have some really cool Ride-with-GPS routes you can follow, highly 
>> recommended.
>>
>> [image: IMG_9934.jpeg]
>>
>> After getting to the entrance of the Fells, I started thinking that 
>> perhaps this wasn't ideal for my slick tires and fenders. Many of the 
>> trails had big rocks and require you to dismount and walk (see below) but I 
>> guess that's part of the fun so I kept going.
>>
>> [image: IMG_9918.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_9923.jpeg]
>>
>> I walked up the slope and then started riding a winding gravel path with 
>> some smaller rocks. There were some wet / muddy patches but overall it was 
>> all very enjoyable and the bike handled great.
>>
>> [image: 4EEC3310-9B05-419E-9A9D-3B2F0A9E8D1D.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_9930.jpeg]
>>
>> I think the cockpit is ideal for this type of riding, which leaves me 
>> wishing the wrist position would be an issue. I'll give it more miles 
>> before deciding what to do.
>>
>> I had to lower the bar quite a bit from my initial position because I 
>> wanted to use my Rod Steward (Pec Deck v2) and if I had the bars higher up, 
>> it just wouldn't reach. I'll take it off and try with the bars higher. It's 
>> also very close to the Paul canti arms, so maybe not the best fit for this 
>> build.
>>
>> [image: IMG_9935.jpeg]
>>
>> When I stopped following the route and started following my GPS to get 
>> home, I ended up going through some areas that weren't very bike friendly - 
>> after the photo below. I had to carry the bike up a slope and ended up in a 
>> place with huge rocks. Once I crossed I rode a bit more and hit the main 
>> road which brought me back home.
>>
>> [image: IMG_9941.jpeg]
>>
>> All in all, the bike was amazing throughout the 13.5 mile ride. I feel 
>> incredibly lucky to have found this rare 2TT on my size! Can't wait to go 
>> out again.
>>
>> Max near Boston.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil - first ride and work in progress (some photos)

[John Johnson]

Hello Max!

Nice Bombadil and great photos. 

For the bullmoose, I find that ergo grips (ergon or anything with a paddle 
under your palms) help with the position. Maybe worth a try?

Cheers,

John

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 6:11:20 PM UTC+2 maxcr wrote:

> The weather is turning and I finally "finished" my Bombadil build. It's 
> not quite finished because I'm not 100% sure I'll keep the Bullmoose 
> handlebars - they are very stiff which is great, but the angle isn't ideal 
> for my wrists, we'll see but I think the Jones bar is more comfortable for 
> me. I might also explore a super wide drop from Crust called the Nullabar. 
> I'm also curious about some drivetrain changes, more on that in a future 
> thread.
>
> I acquired the bike in January from a fellow in California who didn't seem 
> to be riding it much. This is how it came:
>
> [image: bomba2.jpg]
>
> I've started feeling more comfortable wrenching on my bikes (thanks Jason 
> for the encouragement!) and did all of the work myself - ordering some 
> parts from Riv, BlueLug and Crust. You've seen some pics over the last 
> couple of months, but I want to officially introduce it in its new 
> iteration. 
>
> Yesterday I went out on a mixed terrain ride, first some pavement before 
> arriving to the Middlesex Fells, a reservation with lots of trails and bike 
> friendly gravel - I started following this route from UrbanDirt 
>  (pretty cool site with 
> hubs in a few cities) but didn't finish it because i had to get back home. 
> They have some really cool Ride-with-GPS routes you can follow, highly 
> recommended.
>
> [image: IMG_9934.jpeg]
>
> After getting to the entrance of the Fells, I started thinking that 
> perhaps this wasn't ideal for my slick tires and fenders. Many of the 
> trails had big rocks and require you to dismount and walk (see below) but I 
> guess that's part of the fun so I kept going.
>
> [image: IMG_9918.jpeg]
>
> [image: IMG_9923.jpeg]
>
> I walked up the slope and then started riding a winding gravel path with 
> some smaller rocks. There were some wet / muddy patches but overall it was 
> all very enjoyable and the bike handled great.
>
> [image: 4EEC3310-9B05-419E-9A9D-3B2F0A9E8D1D.jpeg]
>
> [image: IMG_9930.jpeg]
>
> I think the cockpit is ideal for this type of riding, which leaves me 
> wishing the wrist position would be an issue. I'll give it more miles 
> before deciding what to do.
>
> I had to lower the bar quite a bit from my initial position because I 
> wanted to use my Rod Steward (Pec Deck v2) and if I had the bars higher up, 
> it just wouldn't reach. I'll take it off and try with the bars higher. It's 
> also very close to the Paul canti arms, so maybe not the best fit for this 
> build.
>
> [image: IMG_9935.jpeg]
>
> When I stopped following the route and started following my GPS to get 
> home, I ended up going through some areas that weren't very bike friendly - 
> after the photo below. I had to carry the bike up a slope and ended up in a 
> place with huge rocks. Once I crossed I rode a bit more and hit the main 
> road which brought me back home.
>
> [image: IMG_9941.jpeg]
>
> All in all, the bike was amazing throughout the 13.5 mile ride. I feel 
> incredibly lucky to have found this rare 2TT on my size! Can't wait to go 
> out again.
>
> Max near Boston.
>

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[RBW] Re: Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Anyone have a spare set of these bars they're looking to unload? Very 
interested in these for a new cargo bike build. Thanks!

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:22:21 PM UTC-5 Damien wrote:

> Thanks for the replies everyone. As an FYI, I'm a bit of a smaller guy, 
> but bought these because I enjoyed my Albatross bars with the only knock on 
> them being that they were too narrow and I felt cramped with them even with 
> a 120mm stem. My hope was that these bars would give some of the benefits I 
> enjoyed with the Albatrossbut wider.
>
> On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 11:41:24 UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a 
>> wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail 
>> riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to 
>> lean into the bars a bit more off road.)
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.  I 
>>> wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on a 
>>> daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a 
>>> 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, they 
>>> even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them 
>>> if you don't want bar end shifters.  
>>>
>>> Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going 
>>> to depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's 
>>> physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like 
>>> any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the 
>>> exact same geometry.
>>>
>>> The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy with 
>>> broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal grip 
>>> posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or so 
>>> has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the 
>>> tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a 
>>> longer tem - which are hard to find.
>>>
>>> Let us know what you think.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>>>
 Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able to 
 track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real 
 thought 
 and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to hear others 
 thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to switch 
 out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you set 
 them 
 up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?

 Thanks all!

 Oh, and for reference, here they are: 
 https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Hozan Bottom Bracket Tapping Tool

[JohnS]

Good point Will. I have one of them from a project which I didn't use it 
for. It would have been plan B had the it not gone well with cleaning out 
the BB threads.

Thanks,
John


On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 6:50:48 PM UTC-4 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> It seems unnecessary at this point, but I wanted to weigh in on BB 
> solutions: I've had great success with threadless "repair" bottom 
> brackets.  I have the Velo Orange one in a Raleigh Twenty that's been great 
> but have used others in other bikes.  Which is good because VO no longer 
> sells it.
>
> Will
>
> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 1:00:05 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Jeff. I'm using Groit's Garage paint cleaning clay to pull the 
>> dirt/grim out of the paint, I'm about 1/2 way through that process, need to 
>> spend some time at the BB. Then it will be a polish to smooth out small 
>> scratches followed by one or two coats of wax. Should look like the steerer 
>> tube's paint when I'm done. Some chips but not bad for being 41 years old. 
>> Also need to do a frame saver treatment before building it up.
>>
>> George, no the cartridge BB was from another bike, bearings have a lot of 
>> play so I was only using it to figure out spindle lengths. Always fun 
>> trying to get the shortest spindle to work with a frame and crank to 
>> achieve a low Q factor. The bike came with a full Dura-Ace groupo from '92, 
>> including the BB which I'll try to reuse. Unfortunately the crank and cogs 
>> are too high of a gearing for me. I'll need to use my favorite of 46/34 
>> chainrings and 11/34 cassette so I can climb the hills in my area.
>>
>> Laing, see, being a pack rat has it benefits.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 5:39:57 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> That's wonderful news John , way to go ! 
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

[Eric Marth]

Huge thanks to Philip for sharing all the images over on Insta, I got the 
virtual tour I was dying for!

On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 10:34:08 PM UTC-4 Evan E. wrote:

> Keith H. asked about the orange Rambouillet that is missing paint. Will of 
> Rivendell told me that the chainstay bridge and the seatstay bridges were 
> moved farther from the rear dropout to enable larger tires to fit. “I think 
> this frame will take 45s now,” he said. He didn’t say why the top tube and 
> downtube and head tube are now bare steel, and I didn’t think to ask. We 
> both just stood there and admired the frame. 
>
> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 1:16:04 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Id like to know the story on the orange Rambouillet that is all 
>> stripped.  I love to remember that lugged frames can almost always be be 
>> repaired.  
>>
>> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 2:12:20 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm always bummed to miss these, but those buds on the trees and bike 
>>> rack full of shopper's bikes are especially painful this year.  All that 
>>> rain that CA has been getting translates to snow here.  It'll be months 
>>> before I could enjoy something like that.
>>> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 1:42:57 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Still bummed to have missed this.
 I bet my Tosco bar was sad to miss me!

 Nice Hardrock I see!

 On Mar 25, 2023, at 10:52, Doug Van Cleve  wrote:

 

 Is that custom paint, or was there an orange Atlantis at some point?

 Doug

 On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 10:08 AM Keith Paugh  
 wrote:

> Did you achieve #7?
>
> (Beautiful Atlantis 👌)
>
> k.
>
> On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Matthew Williams  
> wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Re: Old RBW road bike like the Rambouillet?

[John Dewey]

On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 8:28 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> What crankset is on the Saluki? looks like a TA, the one with 3 bcd
> drillings:  110/74/54.
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
>
>> RamBOBs,
>>
>> I think all of these are quite accurate recollections. Our little family
>> peloton (admittedly, a kind of 'embarrassment of riches') includes a RAM
>> acquired in '04, a SAM circa '11, and most recently an NOS 650b DOG
>> (Saluki) that chased us down and just wouldn't let us get away. Each what
>> might be called 'classic' road bike. No stretched out chainstays or swoopy
>> tubes, just delightful, well-mannered, well-proportioned, comfortable,
>> artful road machines.
>>
>> The most recent addition—Saluki—to these old eyes, cannot be
>> distinguished from any of the finest bespoke art bikes we all spend
>> hours admiring on our computers. Every detail is refined and well thought
>> out. Quite amazing. We just replaced old no-named rubber with 38mm Pari
>> Motos and must admit that the 650b fairy dust seems real even if it makes
>> no mechanical sense. Whatever—it feels fast and comfortable and is truly a
>> handsome creature.
>>
>> I guess you could call GP and have him build one for you, but we most
>> definitely pine for the days we could just wander into our favorite
>> bike shop, grab one of these triangles off a hook and take it home. Instant
>> gratification baby!
>>
>> Jock Dewey
>>
>> [image: Saluki.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 7:25 AM iamkeith  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm pretty sure the Rambouillet evolved from the LongLow.  How that
>>> differed from the Road, I can't recall, but someone will.  The Ram was an
>>> attempt to make a more affordable road bike, by virtue of having it be a
>>> standard, off the shelf model.  The Romulous (and Redwood) were later
>>> introduced as a way to offer a less expensive version of the Ram, by
>>> simplifying some details and using less complicated paint.  There's a
>>> thread from not too long ago where it was postulated and well-argued that
>>> the Roadeo is really just a close linear descendent of the Ram.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 7:37:55 AM UTC-6 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>>>
 Howdy folks.

 Wasn't there an RBW road frame BITD that was basically a more basic
 Rambouillet?  I think they were blue, and I don't remember if they were
 offered concurrently or after.  I think there was also a tall version
 called the Redwood...

 Thanks, Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: Old RBW road bike like the Rambouillet?

[ascpgh]

The murky brake situation mixed with varying rear clearance within the 
Rambouillet year models too. I don't recall if there had been 
miscommunication with Toyo or some purposeful intent. A dropout spec change 
could have given or taken a millimeter or two but bridge spec probably was 
the cause.

My 2002 Ram had its rear dropouts replaced and I never measured to see if 
those or a new, different set of brake pads had eased the reach that 
previously required the pads to be set at the utter bottom of the slots. 
The dropouts used were a preference of the builder doing the warranty 
repair after the drive side one broke.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 4:36:27 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The brake situation is a little murkier than that. Ram/Rom used mid-reach 
> which GP was able to find from Shimano, it didn't have a model name just 
> Shimano. Then he got Tektro to do a long-reach caliper for Saluki, Hilsen 
> and Bleriot. That brake spread to other models and eventually Tektro did a 
> mid-reacher, too. 
>
> In current parlance the Roadeo still uses mid-reach (if you can get one 
> ordered and built), as did the first gen Roadini. The latest Roadini 
> switched to long-reach. 
>
> Simple! 😂
>
> On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> Thanks folks, it was bugging me that I couldn't remember.
>>
>> I forgot that it was a complete bike vs. frameset like the Ram.  
>> Something easy to forget today is that non-short reach brakes were not 
>> really available new in the mid to late '90s, that's why the LongLow used 
>> cantis.  Tektro bringing out the mid-reach dual pivots is what triggered 
>> the Ram/Rom/Bleriot etc...
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 11:25 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doug — The Romulus was offered as a complete bike and "budget" 
>>> version of the Rambouillet. 
>>>
>>> Full brochure here: 
>>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Romulus.pdf 
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-03-24 at 2.24.19 PM.png]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

[Peter Adler]

Bruce Gordon's mid-fork mounts are intended for Bruce's lowrider front 
rack, and for nothing else >:-P

I built up my late lamented Raleigh International with BG front+rear racks, 
and had long intended to have contact points brazed on for them, along with 
pivot posts for centerpulls. I even sounded Bruce out once on whether he'd 
be willing to do the work ("only if I don't have to mess with the paint 
afterwards"). Bruce closed the shop before I got to it, then died, then I 
wrecked the Raleigh.

Bruce's attachment principles were similar to Grant's. He used metal+rubber 
P-clamps for forks without properly located midfork braze-ons (i.e., any 
fork he hadn't made), and used the twisted Erector set metal diving boards 
to attach the rear rack to the seat stays. I found this attachment method 
unacceptably ugly, and replaced the ugly-o P-clamps with Tubus fork clamps 
in front (on the Raleigh) and Tubus turnbuckles+rails+stainless steel 
seatstay clamps (the Raleigh had no rack attachment points). Made the thing 
look far more purpose-built. The one disadvantage was that the Tubus fork 
clamps pushed the sides of the rack out about 5mm from each leg, as they're 
really intended as attachment points for Tubus' own front racks. The BG 
rack sides are further inboard, to get the weight closer to the centerline.

I replaced the Raleigh with a Trek 720, which has midfork braze-ons. I was 
upset to discover that the attachment points on Bruce's rack were about 
40mm above the fork's braze-ons, which were probably intended for the old 
Blackburn lowrider. I've got the whole mess held on with P-clamps now, but 
it ticks me off every time I think about it. Maybe someday I'll move the 
canti posts to work as centerpull pivots, and have midfork braze-ons put in 
the right location at the same time.

The big question is: Why aren't more racks made like the Mark's rack and 
the Nitto UD-1/UD-2 from Rene Herse? There have to be more people trying to 
retrofit racks to older frames with idiosyncratic attachment points. I've 
bought four different handlebar bag racks trying to fit the center brake 
hole-to-canti post on the Trek (sized for 27"). None of them work, because 
they're all designed for 700c.

Peter "arrrgh" Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 5:29:03 AM UTC-7 Steven Sweedler wrote:

I wonder when Nitto introduced the flexible strut mounts (Mark’s rack) vs. 
the rigid struts of the rack on Robert  Tilleys AR. The 700 c AR that I had 
came with the same rack as Roberts. Bruce Gordon’s mid rack mounts were not 
compatible with that Nitto rack.

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