Bruce Gordon's mid-fork mounts are intended for Bruce's lowrider front rack, and for nothing else >:-P
I built up my late lamented Raleigh International with BG front+rear racks, and had long intended to have contact points brazed on for them, along with pivot posts for centerpulls. I even sounded Bruce out once on whether he'd be willing to do the work ("only if I don't have to mess with the paint afterwards"). Bruce closed the shop before I got to it, then died, then I wrecked the Raleigh. Bruce's attachment principles were similar to Grant's. He used metal+rubber P-clamps for forks without properly located midfork braze-ons (i.e., any fork he hadn't made), and used the twisted Erector set metal diving boards to attach the rear rack to the seat stays. I found this attachment method unacceptably ugly, and replaced the ugly-o P-clamps with Tubus fork clamps in front (on the Raleigh) and Tubus turnbuckles+rails+stainless steel seatstay clamps (the Raleigh had no rack attachment points). Made the thing look far more purpose-built. The one disadvantage was that the Tubus fork clamps pushed the sides of the rack out about 5mm from each leg, as they're really intended as attachment points for Tubus' own front racks. The BG rack sides are further inboard, to get the weight closer to the centerline. I replaced the Raleigh with a Trek 720, which has midfork braze-ons. I was upset to discover that the attachment points on Bruce's rack were about 40mm above the fork's braze-ons, which were probably intended for the old Blackburn lowrider. I've got the whole mess held on with P-clamps now, but it ticks me off every time I think about it. Maybe someday I'll move the canti posts to work as centerpull pivots, and have midfork braze-ons put in the right location at the same time. The big question is: Why aren't more racks made like the Mark's rack and the Nitto UD-1/UD-2 from Rene Herse? There have to be more people trying to retrofit racks to older frames with idiosyncratic attachment points. I've bought four different handlebar bag racks trying to fit the center brake hole-to-canti post on the Trek (sized for 27"). None of them work, because they're all designed for 700c. Peter "arrrgh" Adler Berkeley, CA/USA On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 5:29:03 AM UTC-7 Steven Sweedler wrote: I wonder when Nitto introduced the flexible strut mounts (Mark’s rack) vs. the rigid struts of the rack on Robert Tilleys AR. The 700 c AR that I had came with the same rack as Roberts. Bruce Gordon’s mid rack mounts were not compatible with that Nitto rack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/513f8add-ac12-422b-9ec5-be1ac5605c7dn%40googlegroups.com.