[RBW] Re: Clickers for Jim cassettes

[Justin Kennedy]

I'm using a $15 Shimano 7speed trigger from eBay with my Jim 13-42 7speed 
and it's working great. 

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 2:04:21 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Ha! I love that set up. I have full friction on my Riv but friction front 
> and indexed rear on my Soma which is pleasant and very, very easy to use. 
>
> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 10:19:47 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> It's so...*normal. *My fancy schmancy custom now has a 
>> click-rear/friction-front 7-speed drivetrain just like my bikes from 30 
>> years ago! I'm kinda surprised how much I like it. 
>>
>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 9:57:54 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> S-Ride stuff is great for the price! Admittedly I just started working 
>>> for Jim at Merry Sales/Soma Fab so take that with a grain of salt…
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:18:57 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I mentioned this on my immediately irrelevant "Double 1x" thread cuz I 
 pulled that drivetrain, but nobody's going to read it there. You can read 
 it here! 

 If friction isn't your thing but you like the idea of those 7-speed Jim 
 cassettes, S Ride makes a cheap and functional trigger shifter for it. 
 Save 
 weight and money with a plastic shifter! 




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[RBW] Re: Clickers for Jim cassettes

[Nick Shoemaker]

So what's the lowdown on S-Ride? Are they the manufacturer of the new Riv 
7s cassettes? And how does their stuff compare to other budget drivetrain 
options like SunRace & Microshift?

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:57:54 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> S-Ride stuff is great for the price! Admittedly I just started working for 
> Jim at Merry Sales/Soma Fab so take that with a grain of salt…
>
> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:18:57 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I mentioned this on my immediately irrelevant "Double 1x" thread cuz I 
>> pulled that drivetrain, but nobody's going to read it there. You can read 
>> it here! 
>>
>> If friction isn't your thing but you like the idea of those 7-speed Jim 
>> cassettes, S Ride makes a cheap and functional trigger shifter for it. Save 
>> weight and money with a plastic shifter! 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clickers for Jim cassettes

[Justin Kennedy]

>From https://www.rivbike.com/products/cassettes-7 :


*Jim 7 speed cassettes, made by former SRAM people in China*

Backstory Stuff: On getting these from China; and indexing with these

When SRAM took its manufacturing from China to Taiwan, probably but who are 
we to say, to avoid the raised tariffs, it left a colony of Chinese 
designers, engineers, marketers, and assembly people out of work but still 
chock full of skills and rarin' to go again. Out of the original batch came 
at least three new brands: MicroNew, S-Ride, and Sensah, each with its own 
areas of specialization. For 27 years we sold nothing made in China. COVID 
has made it impossible to source only from Japan or Taiwan while continue 
equipping bicycles on time and with the kind of stuff we like. We have 
nurtured what seems to be a good relationship with some Chinese vendors, 
and guess what--if they can make Apple products, they can make bike parts. 
Equally, they're eager to do so, at a time when most Taiwan vendor will 
laugh your pants off and tell you to leave the room if you want something 
new, even if it's right up their alley, and furthermore, if you want it 
within three years. These 7-speed cassettes are made by S-Ride.

INDEXING

We're not an R&D lab, but we dissect things and learn about them deeply, 
from a bike rider's and bike mechanic's perspective, and purely as a matter 
of curiosity, Vince and Rich here combines brains and discovered how to 
make 9-speed indexed shifters work seemingly perfectly with these 7s 
cassettes. The following instructions are intended for those with 
mechanical skills and sufficient experience with fussy indexed drivetrains.

Here's all you do, baby: Put the chain in top gear (big front, small rear), 
with the big paddle fresh and the cable loose. Click twice, essentially 
wasting the first two clicks. THEN tighten and snug the cable,  The next 
seven clicks seem to shift perfectly. Your results may vary, but it worked 
great here. We still recommend these for friction shifting...or if you 
happen to have some dusty, cruddy, eBay'd 7s indexed shifters, try them.

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 10:26:30 AM UTC-4 fiddl...@gmail.com wrote:

> So what's the lowdown on S-Ride? Are they the manufacturer of the new Riv 
> 7s cassettes? And how does their stuff compare to other budget drivetrain 
> options like SunRace & Microshift?
>
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:57:54 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> S-Ride stuff is great for the price! Admittedly I just started working 
>> for Jim at Merry Sales/Soma Fab so take that with a grain of salt…
>>
>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 8:18:57 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I mentioned this on my immediately irrelevant "Double 1x" thread cuz I 
>>> pulled that drivetrain, but nobody's going to read it there. You can read 
>>> it here! 
>>>
>>> If friction isn't your thing but you like the idea of those 7-speed Jim 
>>> cassettes, S Ride makes a cheap and functional trigger shifter for it. Save 
>>> weight and money with a plastic shifter! 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Double 1x

[Patrick Moore]

Years ago, probably close to 40 years ago now, a book came out describing
the adventures of 2 British brothers' around the world bike tour on custom
touring bikes. For some reason they forewent front derailleurs on their 2X
drivetrains and instead carried little sticks on their handlebars which
they used to shove the chain onto the small cog (forget how they
upshifted). Does anyone recall their names or the title of the book?

Me, I had a front-derailleurless 2X8 or 2X9 drivetrain on my early '80s Ken
Rogers tricycle; it was great fun to stop dead on a hill and backpedal with
my left foot while nudging the bottom of the chain with the toe of my
right, then continuing on in a low gear. I did have to reach down and grab
the top run of the chain to upshift, a rather dicey move.

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:44 AM Nick Shoemaker  wrote:

> +1 on the double 1x w/ no front shifter approach - I call it my 'manual
> granny.' I'm not good enough to shift it on the fly (at least not in
> moments when I urgently need that low of a gear...)
>
> *SunRace RDM900 derailer (1.7 pull ratio AND a clutch!)*
> *Jim 13-42t cassette*
> *36-24 crank*
> *Silver thumbie*
> *8 speed chain(s)*
>
> Pretty solid hillibike setup for not a lot of $. I am considering moving
> to an 8s 11-42 because I do sometimes wish I had one slightly faster gear
> on the road.
>

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Re: [RBW] Double 1x

[lconley]

That was what came on the Rivendell Mystery Bikes, double crank on the 
front, 9 speed cassette on the rear, but only a rear derailleur and 
shifter. No shifter boss or cable stop for a front derailleur. I think it 
was referred to as a stick shift - you shifted the front by pushing the 
chain with a stick.

Laing

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 10:44:44 AM UTC-4 fiddl...@gmail.com wrote:

> +1 on the double 1x w/ no front shifter approach - I call it my 'manual 
> granny.' I'm not good enough to shift it on the fly (at least not in 
> moments when I urgently need that low of a gear...)
>
> *SunRace RDM900 derailer (1.7 pull ratio AND a clutch!)*
> *Jim 13-42t cassette*
> *36-24 crank*
> *Silver thumbie*
> *8 speed chain(s)*
>
> Pretty solid hillibike setup for not a lot of $. I am considering moving 
> to an 8s 11-42 because I do sometimes wish I had one slightly faster gear 
> on the road.
>
> [image: ClemDrive.jpg]
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 9:11:42 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>
>> You can also do double 1x with two chainrings and skip the front 
>> derailleur and shifter - manually shift the front when desired (usually 
>> while stopped but down shifts can be done while riding easily enough using 
>> your foot to nudge the chain).
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:46:46 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I was just writing elsewhere that (so far) my 2 x 7 drivetrain I 
>>> installed on my Gus is like having two 1x7 drivetrain’s. That’s the magic 
>>> of the Silver wide/low crank with 38/24 rings. On road/gravel rides I’ve 
>>> yet to use the 24 & I’ve not spun out in the top end. On local quite hilly 
>>> singletrack I just put it on the 24 & leave it there.:)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2023, at 1:04 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> I had a nice 1x and wanted slightly lower gears for some crazy hills 
>>> around here, but didn't want to lose the already relatively low top end so 
>>> mashed some parts together and this is the result. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Starting point: SRAM Rival 1 (with clutch) rear derailer, I believe the 
>>> largest cog this is supposed to handle is 42t. I added a Garbaruk cage and 
>>> pulleys and it shifts a SunRace 11-50 11-spd cassette with a SRAM Apex 
>>> trigger shifter. The front is a Sugino XD crank with 34t chainring. 
>>>
>>> Ok what happens if I want double rings? The manufacturer stuff says I 
>>> can't use a 1x derailer (I don't know why) so I thought I would cheat a 
>>> little and make it kind of two 1x's by adding a 30t inner ring, Shimano 
>>> Deore (DynaSys 10-spd double) FD and a Silver2 thumbshifter on the stem. It 
>>> works! 
>>>
>>> Ok it doesn't work completely fabulously yet, the downshift to the small 
>>> ring doesn't always take and I still have some fiddling to do but overall 
>>> the bike works well for me using all of the gears in the 30t plus grabbing 
>>> the top 2 or 3 in the 34t on occasion, and sometimes just staying in the 
>>> 34t like before. It's not a massive increase in gear range, I think of it 
>>> as an expanded 1x. 
>>>
>>> Does it make sense? I don't know, maybe this can be duplicated by ye old 
>>> triple drivetrains with 11-36 cassettes but I don't like triples. I like 
>>> this! 
>>>
>>> Joe "tried to ditch front derailers, ended up with a front derailer 
>>> again" Bernard
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Double 1x

[Joe Bernard]

I love the idea of stick/kick shift in theory but - not unlike my dreams 
that I can ride a singlespeed around here - it's just not feasible in 
practice. My terrain is up/down/up/down all day, I gotta have those gears 
and they gotta be available at the flick of a lever. This place is a 
rollercoaster! 

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> That was what came on the Rivendell Mystery Bikes, double crank on the 
> front, 9 speed cassette on the rear, but only a rear derailleur and 
> shifter. No shifter boss or cable stop for a front derailleur. I think it 
> was referred to as a stick shift - you shifted the front by pushing the 
> chain with a stick.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 10:44:44 AM UTC-4 fiddl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> +1 on the double 1x w/ no front shifter approach - I call it my 'manual 
>> granny.' I'm not good enough to shift it on the fly (at least not in 
>> moments when I urgently need that low of a gear...)
>>
>> *SunRace RDM900 derailer (1.7 pull ratio AND a clutch!)*
>> *Jim 13-42t cassette*
>> *36-24 crank*
>> *Silver thumbie*
>> *8 speed chain(s)*
>>
>> Pretty solid hillibike setup for not a lot of $. I am considering moving 
>> to an 8s 11-42 because I do sometimes wish I had one slightly faster gear 
>> on the road.
>>
>> [image: ClemDrive.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 9:11:42 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> You can also do double 1x with two chainrings and skip the front 
>>> derailleur and shifter - manually shift the front when desired (usually 
>>> while stopped but down shifts can be done while riding easily enough using 
>>> your foot to nudge the chain).
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 8:46:46 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I was just writing elsewhere that (so far) my 2 x 7 drivetrain I 
 installed on my Gus is like having two 1x7 drivetrain’s. That’s the magic 
 of the Silver wide/low crank with 38/24 rings. On road/gravel rides I’ve 
 yet to use the 24 & I’ve not spun out in the top end. On local quite hilly 
 singletrack I just put it on the 24 & leave it there.:)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 30, 2023, at 1:04 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

 I had a nice 1x and wanted slightly lower gears for some crazy hills 
 around here, but didn't want to lose the already relatively low top end so 
 mashed some parts together and this is the result. 


 Starting point: SRAM Rival 1 (with clutch) rear derailer, I believe the 
 largest cog this is supposed to handle is 42t. I added a Garbaruk cage and 
 pulleys and it shifts a SunRace 11-50 11-spd cassette with a SRAM Apex 
 trigger shifter. The front is a Sugino XD crank with 34t chainring. 

 Ok what happens if I want double rings? The manufacturer stuff says I 
 can't use a 1x derailer (I don't know why) so I thought I would cheat a 
 little and make it kind of two 1x's by adding a 30t inner ring, Shimano 
 Deore (DynaSys 10-spd double) FD and a Silver2 thumbshifter on the stem. 
 It 
 works! 

 Ok it doesn't work completely fabulously yet, the downshift to the 
 small ring doesn't always take and I still have some fiddling to do but 
 overall the bike works well for me using all of the gears in the 30t plus 
 grabbing the top 2 or 3 in the 34t on occasion, and sometimes just staying 
 in the 34t like before. It's not a massive increase in gear range, I think 
 of it as an expanded 1x. 

 Does it make sense? I don't know, maybe this can be duplicated by ye 
 old triple drivetrains with 11-36 cassettes but I don't like triples. I 
 like this! 

 Joe "tried to ditch front derailers, ended up with a front derailer 
 again" Bernard

 
 

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[RBW] Re: Bike route mapping & guidance app for iPhone

[Patrick Moore]

Well, I haven't yet bothered to figure out what my Apple ID password is, so
I bypassed MMR and wrote out an informal route sheet (with a fountain pen)
using Google Maps. Google Maps shows detail in far higher resolution than
MMR, which is too bad for MMR. The distance from my house to the computer
store is 3.5 south miles by car but along a 6-lane (Coors Boulevard)
fronting big residential developments and shopping centers. My proposed
route included a dirt path that GM and MMR showed as bridging surface
streets between 2 of the residential developments.

What the maps don't tell you until you actually ride up to them and then go
back and look closely is the fences: 3 of the 5 neighborhoods between mine
(not gated) and the shopping center on the east side of the big boulevard
are fenced and gated. I did managed to get onto the mapped dirt path after
trespassing into one of these neighborhoods, but the south end is closed
with a 5' metal fence and locked gate with "video surveillance" sign. I was
tempted to climb over the gate -- have done that before with bike -- but
didn't want to deal with video surveillance.

So I doubled back and went further east to try another and well known dirt
path south; this one dead ends at a housing development but you can ride
and climb up a huge concrete stormwater culvert; I noted the appropriate
place along the wall so i could check it out later on Google Maps.

Back home I checked GMaps for un-fenced dirt routes for the last mile or so
south of the storm culvert; nope, all hemmed in by fences.

Thus there is no way to ride south from my house for ~3 miles to get to
this shopping center without riding on a 6-lane boulevard. What a stupid
way to live.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike route mapping & guidance app for iPhone

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Jeffrey; noted.

On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 7:13 PM Jeffrey Arita  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> One caveat: if you want the verbal (voice) turn-by-turn feature that
> ridewithgps offers (for routes), then you will need to pay for either a
> Basic or Premium subscription.  The free version does not offer this
> specific feature:
>
>
> https://support.ridewithgps.com/hc/en-us/articles/4419572706971-Turn-by-Turn-Navigation
>
> Ask me how I know ;)
>
> We finally upgraded to the Premium subscription, primarily because that
> level enables one to 'archive' routes (we have many, many routes and they
> grow as time moves forward).  Archiving routes enables one to 'activate'
> only those routes one wants to (perhaps) synchronize to their desired gps
> standalone device (without having to scroll through dozens and dozens of
> irrelevent routes).
>
> Just wanted to offer a different perspective.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
>
> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 4:52:39 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Many thanks all; the unanimous and very quick agreement on Ridewithgps
>> speaks well of it and I'lll check it out.
>>
>> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 11:56 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to the car-centric development of this our Southwestern city we
>>> often have destinations only a few miles away that you can't ride to on
>>> direct, paved routes. OTOH, thanks to our extensive dirt trails, there are
>>> often off-road workarounds that, if they add 50% or more to the total
>>> distance are pleasant to ride -- and after all, one rides for pleasure; or
>>> I hope one does.
>>>
>>> I have to take a computer in to a shop tomorrow. By 6-lane boulevard and
>>> resulting horrible intersections it's 3.3 miles, but per Google maps there
>>> is apparently a combined residential street-cum-dirt trail route that can
>>> get me there.
>>>
>>> The trouble is that it's complicated enough that I have a hard time
>>> following it on my 42" professional screen. Also, I am rather "spatially
>>> dyslexic:" I don't easily comprehend spatial directions, relations, and
>>> distances -- generally I painstakingly work out complicated routes on a
>>> verbal instruction sheet.
>>>
>>> I cannot use Google Maps or on a 2" iPhone screen.
>>>
>>> But: is there some miracle phone app that will, say, let you pick out
>>> such a route on a big screen and transfer it to a phone where the app will
>>> walk you through the turns and distances?
>>>
>>> Otherwise, I'll stick to writing out route marker lists.
>>>
>>> Aside: When I drive with my daughter, she gauged routes using Siri to
>>> operate a direction app that would nag you to turn in "100 yards" or what
>>> have you. But (1) I will *not* talk to a ddogamned machine, and (2) the
>>> routes in question involve paths that I expect are not inside Google or
>>> Apple systems.
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, who from time to time revisits Robin Williams very funny
>>> Siri putdown on Ellen DeGeneres.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
>>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[EGNolan]

$1700 for a nicely appointed Sam Hillborne near Atlanta. Some of the 
description seems off, but what're ya gonna do?
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/bik/d/gainesville-rivendell-hillborne/7614929897.html

No affiliation
Eric
Indpls

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 12:27:20 PM UTC-4 r.ha...@live.com wrote:

> I removed the Obento Rack/Wald Basket/Nitto Light Mount and dropped the 
> price to $4500 complete and $2000 frameset only. This was an impulse build 
> that I regret. I started the price at slightly lower than what I paid but I 
> realize now that price is too high. I'm looking to sell the Gus to buy a 
> Clem Smith Jr. L complete 45 or 52 with simpler parts and keep the extra 
> cash.
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:55:18 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Gus, 54cm
>> $5,500
>> Brooklyn, NY
>>
>> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-bicycle-works-gus/7613498712.html
>>
>> (it's tricked out, but wowza that price!)
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:09:26 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Roadini, 61cm
>>> $2400, Orange!
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>>>
>>> Romulus, 24"
>>> $850
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>>>
>>> Legolas, 59cm
>>> $3400
>>> Portland, OR area
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>>>
>>> Atlantis, 61cm
>>> $2500
>>> Port Townsend, WA
>>>
>>> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>>>
>>> Appaloosa, 56cm
>>> $2000
>>> Portland, OR
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Seeking Velocity Synergy Rim

[Michael Hechmer]

Thanks to all who offered help with replacing my Synergy rear rim.   I have 
a deal for a replacement.

Michael

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 10:23:43 PM UTC-4 Fullylugged wrote:

> Velocity dropped the OC version of the Synergy a while ago after reports 
> of rim cracking appeared. Then they dropped the Synergy model altogether. 
> The Atlas model takes the place of Synergy now.   You can still get OC rims 
> in the A23 model in 700c size.
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:29:24 AM UTC-5 mhec...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have damaged my rear 650b /32H OC rim and need to replace it.  I am 
>> hoping to find the exact replacement, to reuse the spokes, but they seem to 
>> be out of production.  If anyone has one sitting around unused I would like 
>> to have it.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell paint color repetition: Your thoughts

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Eric,
I seem to recall being attracted to the "Butterscotch" Saluki (?) way back 
when. Though I'm not sure I ever saw one in the wild. I do like the 
metallics being used now, at least what I see online. Like the new light 
metallic yellow on the Homer (or Sam's?). Hard to keep up.
I must say though, when it came time to purchase a new Sam for a dedicated 
touring bike back in 2015 or so, i opted for Black & Cream like yours. I 
knew how a touring bike could take a beating. And despite being a fine 
artist who has a huge stash of model car paints to mix almost exact colors, 
given enough time, I have never been stumped worse than trying to touch up 
my first early model  metallic orange Sam. I think it was a two-stage paint 
(transparent orange over metallic gold?). That proved impossible for me to 
match to my liking.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 4:39:48 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello friends — I've noticed that over the past few years Rivendell have 
> been using some of the same paint colors on many frames through several 
> production runs. If there's been a discussion of this practice, I've missed 
> it. 
>
> I can't quite put my finger on it but something about the same paint 
> appearing on frames over and over leaves me scratching my head. Perhaps 
> there's a missed opportunity to pin a color to a model or to cycle in new 
> colors with new batches of frames? 
>
> What do other members think? Do you appreciate the same colors appearing 
> on different frames? Do you wish there was a wider variety of colors? Does 
> it matter at all? 
>
> Some of these colors I like quite a lot, others I appreciate. There isn't 
> one that I dislike. The Lime Olive is always striking when it appears on a 
> new frame, love it on the Hillbornes and Clems. 
>
> The harvest gold, wow, looks killer on those Susies. Blew my mind on the 
> Homers because they've always been a blue bike. 
>
> I do miss the mustard from the older Appaloosas and the dark bronze that 
> appeared on some Clems. These two colors paired with some of the newer 
> colors currently in use demonstrate, I think, that Riv has some of the best 
> paint colors in the biz. Really lovely stuff. 
>
> Here's a far-from-complete list more or less off the top of my head of 
> where current production colors have appeared:
>
> *Lime-olive*
> Platypus
> Susie
> Hillborne
> Clem
>
> *Mermaid*
> Appaloosa 
> Platypus
> Roadini
> Gus
>
> *Harvest/Dark Gold*
> Hillborne
> Homer
> Susie 
>
> *Ana Purple*
> Rosco Plat
> Appaloosa (next batch in 2023?)
> Road Uno or Gallop? (I can't remember but thought the purple was slated 
> for one of these frames) 
>
> *RBW Orange*
> Appaloosa
> Roadini
> Gus
>
> *RBW Blue*
> Too many to list?
> Appaloosa
> Clem
> Hillborne
>
>

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