Re: [RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[藍俊彪]

> What a treat to see Jamie’s pair of old Rivendells (esp that Glorius) and
> hear their stories. I have not heard that quote Jim gave us from Grant, but
> I’m very glad to know it. I’m also motivated to get a cyclometer to keep
> track of my miles. I have been using the workout app on my iPhone, but that
> does not tell me which bikes get the miles…
>
If you use the strava app instead of the workout app, it'll let you
attribute miles to the appropriate bike. No need for a cyclometer.  You can
even link Strava to Pro Bike Garage(https://www.probikegarage.com/) and get
maintenance reminders.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[Leah Peterson]

What a treat to see Jamie’s pair of old Rivendells (esp that Glorius) and hear their stories. I have not heard that quote Jim gave us from Grant, but I’m very glad to know it. I’m also motivated to get a cyclometer to keep track of my miles. I have been using the workout app on my iPhone, but that does not tell me which bikes get the miles…On Jun 18, 2023, at 8:53 PM, Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:I still hold in my mind the comment that GP wrote many years ago:"A bike with no scratches has no stories to tell..."On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Did you read Grant’s Blahg? He covers a lot of ground, but most notable to me was the Please Don’t Be Precious About Your Rivendell section. In sum, Grant is saying it saddens him to think of people riding beater bikes instead of their Rivendells to do daily, monotonous tasks - because those tasks make up a lot of real life. If one “saves” their Rivendell, it will not realize its potential, sit mostly unused and then pass to one’s heirs who will sell it in “near mint” condition on EBay, and how sad. What was the bike for?I have found myself both guilty and innocent on the matter. My #1 favorite bike is my raspberry Platypus. I ride it all the time, because I bought it to ride it, but I also dread any harm coming to it, and I do guard it from that. I got a second Platypus that I dedicated to shopping and traveling with and promised not to be precious about it. But now and then I still am tempted to backslide. When traveling to the Philly Bike Expo I dithered about which bike to bring. I didn’t want my raspberry Platy damaged while locked up at racks and I feared it being stolen. Roberta said, “I don’t think you have a choice, Leah. That’s the bike people will expect you to bring.” And she was right, and I did. Then, there is Pam. Pam is at the other far end of the spectrum. Her bike is a model of beausage. Innumerable paint chips and little spots of rust cover her tiny Betty frame. Her Backabike bags are full of holes and the elastic closures are worn out. She locks it up and never worries about it. She did not obsessively stare out the restaurant window to see if it was still locked to the rack while we were at dinner (like yours truly). But she loves her bike, has real affection for it. She looked at me, eyes shining, and said exactly that. Ana, PurpleRiv, is another good example to us. She adores her bike, but has not spared it from hard work. Her bike has hauled obscene loads and taken her everywhere. I remember there was that one fateful camping trip for she 1. Posed it for a photo, only to have it topple and slide down the face of a boulder next to it. I believe she said she sat there and wept for 2 hours over her Joe Bell paint. And who among us would not do the same? 2. Same trip, another photo op, and the bike fell off a cliff. So, who truly loves their Rivendell? The one who lavishes it with care and protection? Or the one who pulls it out of the garage and into all of life - the mundane and the adventurous? On one end of the spectrum we have those who will only take a Rivendell out for special occasions so as not to spoil it, and on the other…well, we have Pam and Ana, who will give it a good thrashing. (Oh, don’t take it personally, friends, I’m being funny about both types of owners.)I find myself wanting to be precious but fighting it and succeeding *most* of the time. I’m lucky that the raspberry paint hides beausage and dirt, so it looks pretty new. But a dent in the top tube or a large chip in the paint would really hurt my feelings. Heaven help me. Where are you on the spectrum? What words of wisdom might you have? What strategies do you employ? Do you want to change? Or are you unapologetically staying put on the matter? It might be fun to hear perspectives.Leah



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[RBW] Re: FYI on Feedback Sports Pro Mechanic HD repair stand

[Valerie Yates]

I have that same stand. I love it. It is so easy to get different bikes up 
where you want them to be. And is so easy to fold up and store.  Yes, if 
you leave it set up, the footprint can be a tripping hazard.  

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 5:36:19 AM UTC-6 Thomas Blak wrote:

> I picked up the Feedback Sports Pro Mechanic HD repair stand because I 
> wanted something more portable than my Cinelli shop stand and I wanted 
> something more stable than my Feedback Pro Elite which I might add was 
> useless with my Sam Hillborne.  
>
> I was pleasantly surprised on how well it works with my Rivendells. It is 
> quite stable, has a unique clamping system that makes for an easy on and 
> off. It can hold the bike at any angle without slipping. It is far superior 
> to my Pro Elite stand which I use for anything that weighs less than my 
> Riv. 
>
> It does have a few negatives. Its spendy. Second, the anodized aluminum 
> isn't the same quality as my Pro Elite stand and my Sprint stand. It does 
> share the same limitation as other Feedback stands, namely big footprint 
> and you have be cognizant of the legs as they can be a trip hazard. 
>
> So far it meets my needs quite well and I finally have a portable stand 
> that can handle the weight of my Rivendell without falling over. It is a 
> keeper. 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-speeding Quickbeams and SimpleOnes

[Jim M.]

My QB came with a double chainring and flip flop hub, so that was far 
easier for multi-speeding than a new S-A hub and wheel would have been. And 
I know it's only about a pound difference between an AW and a Shimano 
flip-flop hub, but I'm weenie enough not to want that extra weight. But if 
I had an AW wheel, I certainly would have tried it.

jim m
walnut creek

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 5:47:05 PM UTC-7 mr.wa...@gmail.com wrote:

> I did like my little White Industries Dos ENO freewheel when I was 
> commuting in Santa Fe. Bigger cog for uphill going to work, and little one 
> for a fast ride home. I just ran across it in a box of parts and may need 
> to find a home for it. Couldn't change while moving but it worked for me at 
> that time.
>
>
> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 2:06:02 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Very good point, and one I had not considered. Yes, much easier to add 
>> rings and fd and tensioner than an IGH, and even simpler than adding 3 rear 
>> cogs since that would in most cases also require a wheel build (unless you 
>> find a rare 3-speed freewheel and respace and redish your rear wheel.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, very acutely realizing the benefit of 1 or 2 lower gears 
>> in ABQ, NM.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 3:03 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> I think what happens is people like the bike, then gradually realize one 
>>> or two lower gears might be nice. For most of us adding a derailer and 
>>> tensioner is a simpler path than having the rear wheel rebuilt (folks who 
>>> build their own wheels can disregard). 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 1:57:29 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 There have been threads recently about 2- and 3-speeding Quickbeams and 
 SimpleOnes using multiple chainrings, front derailleur, and rear chain 
 takeup device. I'm curious why people don't use Sturmey Archer AWs? The AW 
 has (per late '90s study by the Human Powered Vehicle Association) as 
 little drag as a clean, well set up derailleur system, and an IGH 
 preserves 
 the simplicity and clean aesthetic of a ss or fixed gear, barring a small 
 cable and shift mechanism.

 Pray, why the choice of multiple rings, fd, and rear tensioner? Is it 
 the big jumps in the AW gearing?

 Long ago (1990 IIRC) I set up a beater Schwinn 3 speed as a poor man's 
 mountain bike (my companion's Diamond Back was recent with only 6 rear 
 cogs) with a 36 to ring to give, with the 18 t AW cog, 69", 52", and 39" 
 gears, and it did good service on 1 well-remembered ride on very hilly 
 jeep 
 tracks -- and an aside: the Ashtabula crank was a miracle of cheap and 
 durable manufacturing compared to the cottered system.

 But 69"-52"-39" is a very useful gear spread.

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 Patrick Moore
 Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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Re: [RBW] Re: SunTour Shifter, plastic washer falling apart.

[Eliot Balogh]

For a dollar it’s probably worth a shot. It fits on my simplex shifters…

On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 6:40 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I could be wrong but that brass dome looks too big for the original
> Silver1 (and Suntour Sprint) downtube/bar-end shifters. I know this piece
> will work, I recommend calling Riv before ordering the brass one (which I
> think only fits the Silver2 thumbshifter).
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/silver-shifter-plastic-replacement-washers-pair
>
> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 5:47:21 PM UTC-7 getjosh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've got SunTour bar end shifters on my Atlantis and one of the plastic
>> washers is falling apart. It's mostly gone at this point and there is a
>> fair bit of play in that shifter. Two questions for the group.
>> 1. can this be replaced?
>> 2. would this brass dome washer from Riv
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/brass-dome-washer?variant=41087107530863
>> do the trick, or can those only be used on the silver product. I know that
>> the silver shifters are nearly a copy of the Shimano pod and SunTour
>> shifter.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/ps/42sftk
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[RBW] Re: FS: White Industries, Suntour, XTR

[Michael Ullmer]

Bump on the barcons, and I found a washer so they're now complete

On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 3:26:37 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> Only the barcons remain
>
> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 8:56:22 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> A few more items from the bin:
>>
>> 1) White Industries ENO Eccentric Hub - $100
>> --32H, 135mm spacing, fixed/free
>>
>> 2) Suntour Barcons - $30
>> --In good shape, missing one of the locking washers
>>
>> 3) Shimano XTR V-Brakes - $80
>> --BR-M960, includes two mounting bolts and a set of travel agents for use 
>> with short pull levers. No noodles
>>
>> Prices are net to me and don't include shipping.
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/M8BshS7FSRyofQJu7
>>
>> Mike in Minneapolis
>>
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[RBW] Re: SunTour Shifter, plastic washer falling apart.

[Joe Bernard]

I could be wrong but that brass dome looks too big for the original Silver1 
(and Suntour Sprint) downtube/bar-end shifters. I know this piece will 
work, I recommend calling Riv before ordering the brass one (which I think 
only fits the Silver2 thumbshifter). 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/silver-shifter-plastic-replacement-washers-pair

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 5:47:21 PM UTC-7 getjosh...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've got SunTour bar end shifters on my Atlantis and one of the plastic 
> washers is falling apart. It's mostly gone at this point and there is a 
> fair bit of play in that shifter. Two questions for the group. 
> 1. can this be replaced?
> 2. would this brass dome washer from Riv 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/brass-dome-washer?variant=41087107530863 
> do the trick, or can those only be used on the silver product. I know that 
> the silver shifters are nearly a copy of the Shimano pod and SunTour 
> shifter. 
>
> https://flic.kr/ps/42sftk
>
>

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Re: [RBW] SunTour Shifter, plastic washer falling apart.

[Eliot Balogh]

Yep. It should work just fine.

On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 5:47 PM getjosh...@gmail.com <
getjoshchamb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've got SunTour bar end shifters on my Atlantis and one of the plastic
> washers is falling apart. It's mostly gone at this point and there is a
> fair bit of play in that shifter. Two questions for the group.
> 1. can this be replaced?
> 2. would this brass dome washer from Riv
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/brass-dome-washer?variant=41087107530863
> do the trick, or can those only be used on the silver product. I know that
> the silver shifters are nearly a copy of the Shimano pod and SunTour
> shifter.
>
> https://flic.kr/ps/42sftk
>
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[RBW] Re: New member confession.

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Welcome!!
Sorry to hear you’re slowing down, but glad you’re just slowing down (30 
minutes can be a decent ride). Keep pedaling until the tires fall off! And 
by chance are you very very very tall?
Happy rolling to you
-Kai 

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 8:47:47 PM UTC-4 dalin...@gmail.com wrote:

> My primary reason for requesting membership to this group is that I must 
> begin selling all six of my bikes and related bicycle gear. Let me explain, 
> please. 
> I was a member of the original Bridgestone Owner's Group, I think #912  
> ???. I joined the RBW group early on, but eventually dropped active 
> participation  because I could not keep up with the number of e-mails 
> involved.
>
> I am now a retired, 87 year old, VA physician, living in north central 
> Arizona. I primarily was a road rider, (non racer, ) with some off road 
> riding in the national forest  which lies out my front door. I stopped  
> riding outdoors when we were shut down by the Covid pandemic.
> I could not risk an injury requiring a hospital ER  visit or 
> hospitalization, and leaving my wife to fend for herself. Thus, I have only 
> been riding indoors on my Revmaster Pro stationary bike.
> I have more recently been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, am on 
> medication,, but am plagued with extreme fatigue, which limits my rides to 
> about 30 minutes. PD is a progressive, incurable disease, thus my cycling 
> situation is not likely to change .
> Therefore, I an going to try to sell my bikes and miscellaneous gear and 
> equipment.
>
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[RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[Cyclofiend Jim]

I still hold in my mind the comment that GP wrote many years ago:

"A bike with no scratches has no stories to tell..."


On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Did you read Grant’s Blahg? He covers a lot of ground, but most notable to 
> me was the Please Don’t Be Precious About Your Rivendell section. In sum, 
> Grant is saying it saddens him to think of people riding beater bikes 
> instead of their Rivendells to do daily, monotonous tasks - because those 
> tasks make up a lot of real life. If one “saves” their Rivendell, it will 
> not realize its potential, sit mostly unused and then pass to one’s heirs 
> who will sell it in “near mint” condition on EBay, and how sad. What was 
> the bike for?
>
> I have found myself both guilty and innocent on the matter. My #1 favorite 
> bike is my raspberry Platypus. I ride it all the time, because I bought it 
> to ride it, but I also dread any harm coming to it, and I do guard it from 
> that. I got a second Platypus that I dedicated to shopping and traveling 
> with and promised not to be precious about it. But now and then I still am 
> tempted to backslide. When traveling to the Philly Bike Expo I dithered 
> about which bike to bring. I didn’t want my raspberry Platy damaged while 
> locked up at racks and I feared it being stolen. Roberta said, “I don’t 
> think you have a choice, Leah. That’s the bike people will expect you to 
> bring.” And she was right, and I did. 
>
> Then, there is Pam. Pam is at the other far end of the spectrum. Her bike 
> is a model of beausage. Innumerable paint chips and little spots of rust 
> cover her tiny Betty frame. Her Backabike bags are full of holes and the 
> elastic closures are worn out. She locks it up and never worries about it. 
> She did not obsessively stare out the restaurant window to see if it was 
> still locked to the rack while we were at dinner (like yours truly). But 
> she loves her bike, has real affection for it. She looked at me, eyes 
> shining, and said exactly that. Ana, PurpleRiv, is another good example to 
> us. She adores her bike, but has not spared it from hard work. Her bike has 
> hauled obscene loads and taken her everywhere. I remember there was that 
> one fateful camping trip for she 1. Posed it for a photo, only to have it 
> topple and slide down the face of a boulder next to it. I believe she said 
> she sat there and wept for 2 hours over her Joe Bell paint. And who among 
> us would not do the same? 2. Same trip, another photo op, and the bike fell 
> off a cliff. 
>
> So, who truly loves their Rivendell? The one who lavishes it with care and 
> protection? Or the one who pulls it out of the garage and into all of life 
> - the mundane and the adventurous? 
>
> On one end of the spectrum we have those who will only take a Rivendell 
> out for special occasions so as not to spoil it, and on the other…well, we 
> have Pam and Ana, who will give it a good thrashing. (Oh, don’t take it 
> personally, friends, I’m being funny about both types of owners.)
>
> I find myself wanting to be precious but fighting it and succeeding *most* 
> of the time. I’m lucky that the raspberry paint hides beausage and dirt, so 
> it looks pretty new. But a dent in the top tube or a large chip in the 
> paint would really hurt my feelings. Heaven help me. 
>
> Where are you on the spectrum? What words of wisdom might you have? What 
> strategies do you employ? Do you want to change? Or are you 
> unapologetically staying put on the matter? It might be fun to hear 
> perspectives.
> Leah
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: 58cm Hunqapillar Complete

[Corey McClendon-Brown]

Sadly letting go of a circa 2019-era Hunq. Tires are flat because the 
tubeless goop dried up in storage -- give them a splash each (or tubes) and 
it's good to go.  Parts list below, message me for more pics and questions. 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1s1t_eTL-sOeGqPeGHgyvvIlEfFWOMJ_i?usp=sharing

Asking $2800 as is.  I'm in Oakland but could have King Kog ship it for 
$100 + Bikeflights fees.  


*Complete Specs:*Frame: 58cm Rivendell Hunqapillar
Brakes: Shimano DXR V-brakes
Levers: XLC
Shifters: Microshift thumby front, Shimano Alivio 9sp trigger shifter rear
Front Der: Shimano CX70
Rear Der: XT 9sp
Cassette: Shimano HG 11-36
Crankset: Riv Silver 38-24
Rear Hub: Shimano XT 36h
Front Hub: Shutter Precision PV-8 32h 
Rims: Velocity Cliffhanger 700c, set up tubeless
Tires: Schwalbe Thunderburts 2.25
Handlebar: Bullmoose Fillet
Post: Nitto S83 26.8
Headset: IRD Needle Blaster
Saddle: C17
Pedals: VP Thin Gripsters

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[RBW] WTB: 54cm Roadini in Mermaid

[Jeff Peel]

Looking for a 54cm Roadini frameset in Mermaid green. If you’ve got one 
complete you’re looking to unload (I already connected with Ahmed) feel 
free to reach out, though I really am just looking for the frameset. 

Jeff
jeffryp...@gmail.com

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[RBW] New member confession.

[David Linden]

My primary reason for requesting membership to this group is that I must 
begin selling all six of my bikes and related bicycle gear. Let me explain, 
please. 
I was a member of the original Bridgestone Owner's Group, I think #912  
???. I joined the RBW group early on, but eventually dropped active 
participation  because I could not keep up with the number of e-mails 
involved.

I am now a retired, 87 year old, VA physician, living in north central 
Arizona. I primarily was a road rider, (non racer, ) with some off road 
riding in the national forest  which lies out my front door. I stopped  
riding outdoors when we were shut down by the Covid pandemic.
I could not risk an injury requiring a hospital ER  visit or 
hospitalization, and leaving my wife to fend for herself. Thus, I have only 
been riding indoors on my Revmaster Pro stationary bike.
I have more recently been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, am on 
medication,, but am plagued with extreme fatigue, which limits my rides to 
about 30 minutes. PD is a progressive, incurable disease, thus my cycling 
situation is not likely to change .
Therefore, I an going to try to sell my bikes and miscellaneous gear and 
equipment.

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[RBW] SunTour Shifter, plastic washer falling apart.

[getjosh...@gmail.com]

I've got SunTour bar end shifters on my Atlantis and one of the plastic 
washers is falling apart. It's mostly gone at this point and there is a 
fair bit of play in that shifter. Two questions for the group. 
1. can this be replaced?
2. would this brass dome washer from Riv 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/brass-dome-washer?variant=41087107530863 
do the trick, or can those only be used on the silver product. I know that 
the silver shifters are nearly a copy of the Shimano pod and SunTour 
shifter. 

https://flic.kr/ps/42sftk

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-speeding Quickbeams and SimpleOnes

[Jamie Hascall]

I did like my little White Industries Dos ENO freewheel when I was 
commuting in Santa Fe. Bigger cog for uphill going to work, and little one 
for a fast ride home. I just ran across it in a box of parts and may need 
to find a home for it. Couldn't change while moving but it worked for me at 
that time.


On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 2:06:02 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Very good point, and one I had not considered. Yes, much easier to add 
> rings and fd and tensioner than an IGH, and even simpler than adding 3 rear 
> cogs since that would in most cases also require a wheel build (unless you 
> find a rare 3-speed freewheel and respace and redish your rear wheel.
>
> Patrick Moore, very acutely realizing the benefit of 1 or 2 lower gears in 
> ABQ, NM.
>
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 3:03 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> I think what happens is people like the bike, then gradually realize one 
>> or two lower gears might be nice. For most of us adding a derailer and 
>> tensioner is a simpler path than having the rear wheel rebuilt (folks who 
>> build their own wheels can disregard). 
>>
>> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 1:57:29 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> There have been threads recently about 2- and 3-speeding Quickbeams and 
>>> SimpleOnes using multiple chainrings, front derailleur, and rear chain 
>>> takeup device. I'm curious why people don't use Sturmey Archer AWs? The AW 
>>> has (per late '90s study by the Human Powered Vehicle Association) as 
>>> little drag as a clean, well set up derailleur system, and an IGH preserves 
>>> the simplicity and clean aesthetic of a ss or fixed gear, barring a small 
>>> cable and shift mechanism.
>>>
>>> Pray, why the choice of multiple rings, fd, and rear tensioner? Is it 
>>> the big jumps in the AW gearing?
>>>
>>> Long ago (1990 IIRC) I set up a beater Schwinn 3 speed as a poor man's 
>>> mountain bike (my companion's Diamond Back was recent with only 6 rear 
>>> cogs) with a 36 to ring to give, with the 18 t AW cog, 69", 52", and 39" 
>>> gears, and it did good service on 1 well-remembered ride on very hilly jeep 
>>> tracks -- and an aside: the Ashtabula crank was a miracle of cheap and 
>>> durable manufacturing compared to the cottered system.
>>>
>>> But 69"-52"-39" is a very useful gear spread.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Re: [RBW] 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Leah Peterson]

Guys, here’s an interesting thing. I am still getting used to my new IRD seat post and figuring out where I want it. (I’ve been traveling, and I’ve been using my other bikes for things so the Racing Platypus hasn’t gotten all the usual miles.) Tonight, I moved the saddle to 40mm, so let’s see if that’s the sweet spot.But that’s not interesting. What IS interesting is that the bolt on the seat post must not be magnetic. I have Hexlox, a funny little thief-blocker that stops anyone from taking a hex key to my saddle or seat post. But the Hexlox keeps falling out and luckily, sticking to my frame, where I find it later. So, I will have to see if there is an identical bolt except magnetic, lest my ivory Rivet be at risk.LeahOn Jun 18, 2023, at 8:00 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:Leah,I am unable to the IRD "Wayback" seat post in my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, because the construction of the post widens too much at the top of the post underneath the length of the adjustment rail, unlike the SR MTE-100 seat post. I bought an IRD "Wayback" seat post off of Craigslist last year for a good price, only to find that it did not work for my needs. I sold it to a friend of mine. Kim HetzelYelm, WA. On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:51:15 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Well, that’s hopeful!I got mine today, too. I have it installed and I slammed it as far as it will go and it will just barely work for me. I sized up in my Platypus frame so I have very little seatpost showing. This seat post cannot be slammed all the way because it widens at the top. But I think this will work and be a good thing. I dread moving my saddle around and tipping it this way or that. But I hope to get it perfect in the next few days and then I’ll give it a review.LOn Jun 2, 2023, at 11:37 PM, st nick  wrote:I heard back from my friend  Jim who received and mounted the revised IRC seatpost.Here's what he said:Paul in Dallas "Received it 2 days ago. Long ride yesterday and it is a game changer! No slippage….my Roadini is now dialed in. Can’t wait to ride it again."



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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-speeding Quickbeams and SimpleOnes

[Patrick Moore]

Very good point, and one I had not considered. Yes, much easier to add
rings and fd and tensioner than an IGH, and even simpler than adding 3 rear
cogs since that would in most cases also require a wheel build (unless you
find a rare 3-speed freewheel and respace and redish your rear wheel.

Patrick Moore, very acutely realizing the benefit of 1 or 2 lower gears in
ABQ, NM.

On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 3:03 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I think what happens is people like the bike, then gradually realize one
> or two lower gears might be nice. For most of us adding a derailer and
> tensioner is a simpler path than having the rear wheel rebuilt (folks who
> build their own wheels can disregard).
>
> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 1:57:29 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> There have been threads recently about 2- and 3-speeding Quickbeams and
>> SimpleOnes using multiple chainrings, front derailleur, and rear chain
>> takeup device. I'm curious why people don't use Sturmey Archer AWs? The AW
>> has (per late '90s study by the Human Powered Vehicle Association) as
>> little drag as a clean, well set up derailleur system, and an IGH preserves
>> the simplicity and clean aesthetic of a ss or fixed gear, barring a small
>> cable and shift mechanism.
>>
>> Pray, why the choice of multiple rings, fd, and rear tensioner? Is it the
>> big jumps in the AW gearing?
>>
>> Long ago (1990 IIRC) I set up a beater Schwinn 3 speed as a poor man's
>> mountain bike (my companion's Diamond Back was recent with only 6 rear
>> cogs) with a 36 to ring to give, with the 18 t AW cog, 69", 52", and 39"
>> gears, and it did good service on 1 well-remembered ride on very hilly jeep
>> tracks -- and an aside: the Ashtabula crank was a miracle of cheap and
>> durable manufacturing compared to the cottered system.
>>
>> But 69"-52"-39" is a very useful gear spread.
>>
>> --
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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[RBW] Re: 3-speeding Quickbeams and SimpleOnes

[Joe Bernard]

I think what happens is people like the bike, then gradually realize one or 
two lower gears might be nice. For most of us adding a derailer and 
tensioner is a simpler path than having the rear wheel rebuilt (folks who 
build their own wheels can disregard). 

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 1:57:29 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> There have been threads recently about 2- and 3-speeding Quickbeams and 
> SimpleOnes using multiple chainrings, front derailleur, and rear chain 
> takeup device. I'm curious why people don't use Sturmey Archer AWs? The AW 
> has (per late '90s study by the Human Powered Vehicle Association) as 
> little drag as a clean, well set up derailleur system, and an IGH preserves 
> the simplicity and clean aesthetic of a ss or fixed gear, barring a small 
> cable and shift mechanism.
>
> Pray, why the choice of multiple rings, fd, and rear tensioner? Is it the 
> big jumps in the AW gearing?
>
> Long ago (1990 IIRC) I set up a beater Schwinn 3 speed as a poor man's 
> mountain bike (my companion's Diamond Back was recent with only 6 rear 
> cogs) with a 36 to ring to give, with the 18 t AW cog, 69", 52", and 39" 
> gears, and it did good service on 1 well-remembered ride on very hilly jeep 
> tracks -- and an aside: the Ashtabula crank was a miracle of cheap and 
> durable manufacturing compared to the cottered system.
>
> But 69"-52"-39" is a very useful gear spread.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Complete

[jaredwilson]

Father's day bump, treat yourself to this tasty tandem!

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 12:36:37 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:

> Also, now willing to explore shipping with compensation for packing 
> materials and labor.
>
> Let's chat!
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 12:32:03 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>
>> Fielded some interest at the $3,000 number, yet still no takers so let's 
>> try for a bump.
>>
>> Another trip to LA planned for Sunday-Monday if someone in SoCal wants to 
>> step up.
>>
>> Thanks :)
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 10:41:46 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, lets try $3,000!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 3:21:05 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Bill!

 As far as I'm concerned these are the best tandems available today, or 
 any day for that matter, glad to hear you enjoy yours so much.

 I was really hopeful someone would grab it before the weekend, but that 
 ship has sailed. Still available for delivery to the Bay Area!

 Someone send me a message and let's talk numbers, this is a smokin' 
 deal compared to what it would cost to build one up.

 -Jared, who is tired of hitting his head on this bike as it hangs from 
 the rafters, in Central CA.

 On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 7:01:29 PM UTC-7 Bill Rhea wrote:

> Jared, I'm feeling your pain at letting this beautiful tandem go!  I 
> have an orange size M HHH also, and I really hope to never have to sell 
> it 
> because Leslie really enjoys our little outings on it.  I also had an 
> Ibis 
> Cousin IT for years but this one rides better, IMO.
>
> I hope one of y'all reading will get off the fence and pull the 
> trigger on this screaming deal already (yeah, you know who you are)
>
> Cheers,
>
> -br
>
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:11:19 PM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Bump, let's make a deal before the weekend!
>>
>> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:41:06 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> New price, *$3200 OBO.*
>>>
>>> Can deliver to LA area next weekend (26th-29th) or Bay Area whenever.
>>>
>>> Don't be shy, lets find this amazing tandem a new home just in time 
>>> for summer :)
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 4:30:24 PM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>
 And another bump, feel free to make an offer!

 On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:59:36 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:

> *BUMP*
>
>
> *$3,500*
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:40:03 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>
>> Still have the HHH, let's find it a new home!
>>
>>
>> *$3,600 picked up in Central California*
>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:41:34 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:
>>
>>> *Price drop!*
>>>
>>>
>>> *$3,800 delivered to RBW garage sale :)*
>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:50:16 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>
 Weekend bump!

 On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:42:26 PM UTC-8 JW wrote:

> Hey group,
>
> This one hurts, just got it put together but with a pending 
> upcoming move we won't be able to house this amazing bicycle.
>
> I'd say theres about 2 miles from riding around on our farm 
> getting it dialed in, hasn't been out on the street yet.
>
> Specs:
>
> Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Orange
> Stock Headset
> Stock Seatpost
> Bushnell Eccentric BB in front, (2) Shimano Cartridge BBs
> Silver 173mm Tandem Cranks
> MKS XC-III Pedals
> Skeleton Key Front Derailleur
> Shimano XT Friction Front Shifter
> Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur
> Silver Rear Friction Shifter
> Hands On Wheels built 27.5" Velocity Cliffhangers
> Kasai 36H Dynamo Front Hub
> Velocity 40H Rear Tandem Hub
> Maxxis Ikon 27.5"x2.2" Tires, Tubeless
> Shimano 11-36? 9 Speed Cassette
> Rivendell Tosco 65cm Captain Handlebars
> Ritchey C220 90mm Stem
> Nitto Bosco 55cm Stoker Handlebars
> ControlTech Adjustable Stoker Stem
> WTB Pure V Captain Saddle
> Brooks B17 Stoker Saddle
> Tektro CL740 Brake Levers
> Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-Brakes
>
> Local pickup only, not willing to ship this one. I *can* however 
> deliver to the Rivendell Garage Sale next weekend on 3/18/23.
>
> Asking $4,000.
>
> Please respond off list and let's find this beauty a nice warm 
> home!
>
> Thanks :)
>
>

[RBW] 3-speeding Quickbeams and SimpleOnes

[Patrick Moore]

There have been threads recently about 2- and 3-speeding Quickbeams and
SimpleOnes using multiple chainrings, front derailleur, and rear chain
takeup device. I'm curious why people don't use Sturmey Archer AWs? The AW
has (per late '90s study by the Human Powered Vehicle Association) as
little drag as a clean, well set up derailleur system, and an IGH preserves
the simplicity and clean aesthetic of a ss or fixed gear, barring a small
cable and shift mechanism.

Pray, why the choice of multiple rings, fd, and rear tensioner? Is it the
big jumps in the AW gearing?

Long ago (1990 IIRC) I set up a beater Schwinn 3 speed as a poor man's
mountain bike (my companion's Diamond Back was recent with only 6 rear
cogs) with a 36 to ring to give, with the 18 t AW cog, 69", 52", and 39"
gears, and it did good service on 1 well-remembered ride on very hilly jeep
tracks -- and an aside: the Ashtabula crank was a miracle of cheap and
durable manufacturing compared to the cottered system.

But 69"-52"-39" is a very useful gear spread.

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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB/WTT: SUPPLE VITESSE SL 700C X 48

[Nick A.]

Hey Patrick, I sent you a PM.

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 4:25:29 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I am on the fence about switching from ultralight Big Ones to these, and I 
> guess that a discounted used price might tip me over on the "buy" side of 
> the fence.
>
> Note that I want the ultralight 370-gram (claimed) model, to set up 
> tubeless.
>
> If you have a VG pair to sell, or perhap to trade for a pair of ultra 
> light (450 honest digital grams) Big Ones or a pair of ultra light Elk 
> Passes or other things, please get in touch.
>
> The reason I'm on the fence is that the Big Ones work well both for 
> exceptionally good pavement rolling and for deepish sand float; but it 
> would be nice to have a tire that let's the bike handle a bit more 
> "crisply."
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
> Background in case anyone cares: The Spec Hover drop bar on the Monocog 
> makes the Monocog so much more pleasant to ride (even tho' I thought that 
> the severely trimmed MAP/Ahearne bar was comfortable) that I now choose it 
> for more of my bosque/ditchbank/sandy soil rides.
>
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>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] FS: Handlebar Bag for your Riv

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Well, technically it will fit lots of bikes, but …

I have a Velo Orange Mini Rando Bag that is in need of a new home. Switched to 
an Acorn Bag (sold to me by another list member).

More info here: 
https://velo-orange.com/products/mini-rando-handlebar-bag?variant=14971542175793

Excellent condition. No scuffs or damage at all. No fading (it’s only a few 
months old).

These for for $90 + shipping on the V-O web site. This one is yours for $70 
with shipping.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

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[RBW] ISO/WTB/WTT: SUPPLE VITESSE SL 700C X 48

[Patrick Moore]

I am on the fence about switching from ultralight Big Ones to these, and I
guess that a discounted used price might tip me over on the "buy" side of
the fence.

Note that I want the ultralight 370-gram (claimed) model, to set up
tubeless.

If you have a VG pair to sell, or perhap to trade for a pair of ultra light
(450 honest digital grams) Big Ones or a pair of ultra light Elk Passes or
other things, please get in touch.

The reason I'm on the fence is that the Big Ones work well both for
exceptionally good pavement rolling and for deepish sand float; but it
would be nice to have a tire that let's the bike handle a bit more
"crisply."

Thanks, Patrick

Background in case anyone cares: The Spec Hover drop bar on the Monocog
makes the Monocog so much more pleasant to ride (even tho' I thought that
the severely trimmed MAP/Ahearne bar was comfortable) that I now choose it
for more of my bosque/ditchbank/sandy soil rides.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto M18 rack

[Ryan Frahm]

PM sent!

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

> No problem.  If anyone else on the list could use the SOMA, feel free to 
> PM me.  (Sorry for hijacking the thread.) 
>
> After posting earlier, i just found this which may be of interest.  I need 
> to study it, but may get one myself.  Price is right and I love the fact 
> that it's made in Ukraine.  Any bit of comerce we can send their way is 
> good:
>
>
> https://www.etsy.com/listing/1069612313/hyacinth-crystal-ship-handmade-stainless?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-toys_and_games-sports_and_outdoor_games-bikes_and_cycling-cycling_accessories&utm_custom1=_k_Cj0KCQjw1rqkBhCTARIsAAHz7K1ycNNyqnHCxvx2Hhxdhe7QZ0UAb0mdRnuqh9GLDbPfEawXxSdImMEaAigDEALw_wcB_k_&utm_content=go_1844702853_71423546322_346398450181_pla-315282688459_m__1069612313_12768591&utm_custom2=1844702853&gclid=Cj0KCQjw1rqkBhCTARIsAAHz7K1ycNNyqnHCxvx2Hhxdhe7QZ0UAb0mdRnuqh9GLDbPfEawXxSdImMEaAigDEALw_wcB
>
> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 11:42:17 AM UTC-6 Kieran J wrote:
>
>> I think I'm gonna sit tight for the full adaptability of the M18. Thanks!
>>
>> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:02:54 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I don't have an M18 (i actually need one too), but I have this SOMA rack 
>>> that I recently prchased in its stead,  but didn't work.  If you're 
>>> interested and think it could work for your application, I'll give it to 
>>> for you a bargain;
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/soma-champs-elysees-mini-front-rack
>>>
>>> In my case, it didn't work because it interfered with my Paul Racer 
>>> centerpull brakes.  It  sits slightly lower than the nitto racks due to the 
>>> shape of the diving board.  I tried it with a nitto diving board that I 
>>> happened to have, but then the struts - which are fixed-angle - didn't end 
>>> up in the correct location.  I'm kind of bummed, because it would be much 
>>> more sturdy than the nitto.  The fixed struts and thicker diving board are 
>>> improvements if it fits.  I'd be comfortable with a much bigger load than 
>>> on the M18
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 10:35:35 AM UTC-6 Kieran J wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I need this rack to play well with my v-brakes.
 Let me know if you have one to sell.

 Thanks,
 Kieran
 Victoria, BC

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto M18 rack

[iamkeith]

No problem.  If anyone else on the list could use the SOMA, feel free to PM 
me.  (Sorry for hijacking the thread.) 

After posting earlier, i just found this which may be of interest.  I need 
to study it, but may get one myself.  Price is right and I love the fact 
that it's made in Ukraine.  Any bit of comerce we can send their way is 
good:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1069612313/hyacinth-crystal-ship-handmade-stainless?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-toys_and_games-sports_and_outdoor_games-bikes_and_cycling-cycling_accessories&utm_custom1=_k_Cj0KCQjw1rqkBhCTARIsAAHz7K1ycNNyqnHCxvx2Hhxdhe7QZ0UAb0mdRnuqh9GLDbPfEawXxSdImMEaAigDEALw_wcB_k_&utm_content=go_1844702853_71423546322_346398450181_pla-315282688459_m__1069612313_12768591&utm_custom2=1844702853&gclid=Cj0KCQjw1rqkBhCTARIsAAHz7K1ycNNyqnHCxvx2Hhxdhe7QZ0UAb0mdRnuqh9GLDbPfEawXxSdImMEaAigDEALw_wcB

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 11:42:17 AM UTC-6 Kieran J wrote:

> I think I'm gonna sit tight for the full adaptability of the M18. Thanks!
>
> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:02:54 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't have an M18 (i actually need one too), but I have this SOMA rack 
>> that I recently prchased in its stead,  but didn't work.  If you're 
>> interested and think it could work for your application, I'll give it to 
>> for you a bargain;
>>
>>
>> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/soma-champs-elysees-mini-front-rack
>>
>> In my case, it didn't work because it interfered with my Paul Racer 
>> centerpull brakes.  It  sits slightly lower than the nitto racks due to the 
>> shape of the diving board.  I tried it with a nitto diving board that I 
>> happened to have, but then the struts - which are fixed-angle - didn't end 
>> up in the correct location.  I'm kind of bummed, because it would be much 
>> more sturdy than the nitto.  The fixed struts and thicker diving board are 
>> improvements if it fits.  I'd be comfortable with a much bigger load than 
>> on the M18
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 10:35:35 AM UTC-6 Kieran J wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I need this rack to play well with my v-brakes.
>>> Let me know if you have one to sell.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kieran
>>> Victoria, BC
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto M18 rack

[Kieran J]

I think I'm gonna sit tight for the full adaptability of the M18. Thanks!

On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:02:54 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

>
> I don't have an M18 (i actually need one too), but I have this SOMA rack 
> that I recently prchased in its stead,  but didn't work.  If you're 
> interested and think it could work for your application, I'll give it to 
> for you a bargain;
>
>
> https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/soma-champs-elysees-mini-front-rack
>
> In my case, it didn't work because it interfered with my Paul Racer 
> centerpull brakes.  It  sits slightly lower than the nitto racks due to the 
> shape of the diving board.  I tried it with a nitto diving board that I 
> happened to have, but then the struts - which are fixed-angle - didn't end 
> up in the correct location.  I'm kind of bummed, because it would be much 
> more sturdy than the nitto.  The fixed struts and thicker diving board are 
> improvements if it fits.  I'd be comfortable with a much bigger load than 
> on the M18
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 10:35:35 AM UTC-6 Kieran J wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I need this rack to play well with my v-brakes.
>> Let me know if you have one to sell.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kieran
>> Victoria, BC
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[jad...@gmail.com]

https://missoula.craigslist.org/bik/d/missoula-rivendell-sam-hillborne-60cm/7633643955.html
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 9:57:41 AM UTC-6 RichS wrote:

> Valerie,
>
> The description says it was built in Japan, so Toyo origin. It would have 
> come with 26" wheels; must be a conversion.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:44:27 AM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> Re the Atlantis 53, did Riv sell a 650B version in that size or was it a 
>> conversion? I have one and it has 26” wheels.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 7:18:41 AM UTC-6 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Toyo Atlantis size 53. 650b with dynamo (F&R). This looks like a 
>>> fantastic deal. I have no relation to the seller. Just happen to see it. 
>>>
>>> https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/72037052
>>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 4:17:54 PM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 64cm top tube on that Clem, but not a 64cm frame. Biggies in the H came 
 in at 65cm. This one above is probably a 59?
 -Kai (who saw the most beautiful red Quickbeam this morning on the 
 Queensboro bridge, who’s owner said “you haven’t sold that yet?”, 
 regarding 
 my Rosco, to which I replied “It’s the other Rosco I’ve been thinking 
 about 
 selling”. But wow, those Roscos are fun fun fun, and measure 64cm and are 
 considerably zippier feeling that the Clem 65, which I also rode today. I 
 should send one West to the Wasatch Front for yearly shreds, but I 
 shouldn’t….)


 On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 4:18:44 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Clem Smith Jr. H
> 64cm
> 2200
> Pleasanton, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pleasanton-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-64cm/7629580864.html
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto M18 rack

[iamkeith]

I don't have an M18 (i actually need one too), but I have this SOMA rack 
that I recently prchased in its stead,  but didn't work.  If you're 
interested and think it could work for your application, I'll give it to 
for you a bargain;

https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/soma-champs-elysees-mini-front-rack

In my case, it didn't work because it interfered with my Paul Racer 
centerpull brakes.  It  sits slightly lower than the nitto racks due to the 
shape of the diving board.  I tried it with a nitto diving board that I 
happened to have, but then the struts - which are fixed-angle - didn't end 
up in the correct location.  I'm kind of bummed, because it would be much 
more sturdy than the nitto.  The fixed struts and thicker diving board are 
improvements if it fits.  I'd be comfortable with a much bigger load than 
on the M18



On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 10:35:35 AM UTC-6 Kieran J wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I need this rack to play well with my v-brakes.
> Let me know if you have one to sell.
>
> Thanks,
> Kieran
> Victoria, BC
>

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[RBW] Anyone using an Appaloosa as a mostly-road bike?

[reynoldslugs]

Hi all, can’t remember the last time I posted.   Long-time Rivendell rider, 
since 1998 or so; my current stable includes Atlantis, Legolas, Custom, 
Rambouillet, Heron Road, maybe one or two others (I gave my Quickbeam to a 
friend when my knees got to creaky for fixed gear riding).

My current curiosity/notion/interest is whether I should add an Appaloosa 
to the flock.  If any of you ride one as a mostly-road, perhaps drop-bar 
bike, I would be grateful for your impressions, feedback.  

I do a fair amount of road + steep gravel rides - - if you are familiar 
with Sonoma County, that means Coleman Valley + Willow Creek, and Sonoma 
Mountain Road + Bald Mountain.  I’m interested in a bike that does well on 
pavement and rides well on steep, rutted, dirt and gravel roads.

Grateful for any opinions and feedback, thanks.

Max Beach
Santa Rosa CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Brian Turner]

My experience with Brooks leather saddles is they have rather short rails which limit you in your setback. Cambiums have a bit more rail length, and so do Berthoud saddles. I don’t really have any other saddle experience outside of the three I just mentioned. I’m almost completely switched over to Berthoud on all my bikes, with the exception of a few well-loved B17 specials.On Jun 18, 2023, at 7:50 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:Johnny,I have a 27.2mm Sakae Ringyo MTE-100 with a shim on my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle for reasons that I blame on my long torso and short limbs. I do not own a Brooks saddle on this bike. Brooks saddle are known to have more setback. Kim HetzelYelm, WA. On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:Wow! If someone needs that much setback I would think they have the wrong sized frame.On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 4:29:30 PM UTC-4 Craig Montgomery wrote:https://www.ebay.com/itm/256074774748?hash=item3b9f3ef8dc:g:RhEAAOSws0hkX-AT&amdata=enc%3AAQAI4DfCiOEnjCvHhEU4bvqRDReTJ0m362omPlZff140MwozY6egewAqxLbY%2FCM6cb3VeqAQUy1E3FHBSP66Cwkpj3b70sLwAY1HVQ3i6pKXBI27s7mFCpliMiV1OQUJraR1uxiGX6UxJlKwM3peUVy7UNEYMQVYZdITGOb6NM5jP2aBScDUF57hz0dfJwKshD70UPj2azpERnKdgTN%2BBLL%2FRdn9mYJSfK%2B8UiFINCeK4R5LchB6MLQUqE2pNuQdmCFoKuT%2BztFW3jVjct%2BHBt9Xv0uS9OQ10PPShHnPCl3UihQU%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6LVwq2HYgAnother optionCraig in TucsonOn Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:42:33 PM UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:I was recently talking with a friend here in the area also looking for a 26.8 set post with more set back for his Roadini.He decided to have Rivbike order the IRC one for him some have had issues with because he heard a Rivendell employee recently had tried one and had no issues because IRC had resolved the issue with a thicker serrated washer.He said he would report back after trying it.Personally I would consult with an experienced frame builder about reaming out a seat tube especially with an expensive frame and have an expert builder donut if I went that route.I might've tempted to try it on a $50 Craiglist bike but not a nice bike I loved.Safe riding to all.Paul in Dallas 



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[RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Kim Hetzel]

Johnny,

I have a 27.2mm Sakae Ringyo MTE-100 with a shim on my Clem Smith Jr. "L" 
bicycle for reasons that I blame on my long torso and short limbs. I do not 
own a Brooks saddle on this bike. Brooks saddle are known to have more 
setback. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Wow! If someone needs that much setback I would think they have the wrong 
> sized frame.
>
> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 4:29:30 PM UTC-4 Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/256074774748?hash=item3b9f3ef8dc:g:RhEAAOSws0hkX-AT&amdata=enc%3AAQAI4DfCiOEnjCvHhEU4bvqRDReTJ0m362omPlZff140MwozY6egewAqxLbY%2FCM6cb3VeqAQUy1E3FHBSP66Cwkpj3b70sLwAY1HVQ3i6pKXBI27s7mFCpliMiV1OQUJraR1uxiGX6UxJlKwM3peUVy7UNEYMQVYZdITGOb6NM5jP2aBScDUF57hz0dfJwKshD70UPj2azpERnKdgTN%2BBLL%2FRdn9mYJSfK%2B8UiFINCeK4R5LchB6MLQUqE2pNuQdmCFoKuT%2BztFW3jVjct%2BHBt9Xv0uS9OQ10PPShHnPCl3UihQU%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6LVwq2HYg
>>
>> Another option
>> Craig in Tucson
>>
>> On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:42:33 PM UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was recently talking with a friend here in the area also looking for a 
>>> 26.8 set post with more set back for his Roadini.
>>>
>>> He decided to have Rivbike order the IRC one for him some have had 
>>> issues with because he heard a Rivendell employee recently had tried one 
>>> and had no issues because IRC had resolved the issue with a thicker 
>>> serrated washer.
>>>
>>> He said he would report back after trying it.
>>>
>>> Personally I would consult with an experienced frame builder about 
>>> reaming out a seat tube especially with an expensive frame and have an 
>>> expert builder donut if I went that route.
>>>
>>> I might've tempted to try it on a $50 Craiglist bike but not a nice bike 
>>> I loved.
>>>
>>> Safe riding to all.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS 61cm MUSA Homer Frameset

[Alex Wirth]

non-fee payment (paypal f&f, venmo, cashapp, zelle)  Paypal G&S also 
available but add 3%.

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[RBW] FS 61cm MUSA Homer Frameset

[Alex Wirth]

Hi All,
Happy Father's Day!

I've decided to part this out and offer it as a frameset:

61cm Made in the USA Homer Hilsen

Measures:

59cm st c-c
58cm tt c-c
86cm standover

Custom french blue with braze ons for centerpulls 

This frame was built by Waterford.

Will come with Frame/Fork/Headset.

Price is $2,100 shipped conus

Pics here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-4vUjN4Z2St_rQ59VIL1Zx7ky-w4_Pyh?usp=sharing

Cheers,

Alex Wirth
Rochester, NY

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Re: [RBW] 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Garth]

It's the same post Max, there's only the one IRD Wayback post. Riv would 
get their supply from Merry Sales, the parent company/wholesaler of IRD and 
Soma. They have frequent weekend discounts and at this time IRD is included 
in the brands of the sale. The code and brands included are on the home 
page. Their payment options are limited to just two cards, fwiw. 

https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/ird-seatpost-wayback-2418?category=987#attr=539,4002,3304


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