[RBW] Re: FS: Phil Wood CHP platform pedals

[Kim H.]

SOLD !

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 6:33:44 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> I have a used pair of Phil Wood platform pedals from the late 1970's. They 
> are not perfect. Both of them have beausage cracks in them from being 
> scraped against asphalt pavement in cornering around turns in the roads 
> that I cycled. 
>
> Despite the flaws, the pedals still function very well. The bearings are 
> very smooth.
>
> There are more pictures upon request.
>
> How about $40.00, shipped in the CONUS 
> or your best offers.
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> [image: 20240517_151102.jpg]
> [image: 20240517_151203.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

[Michael Baquerizo]

Thanks Paul - the red is a custom color. I wanted something as similar to 
'Rad Red' that Richard Sachs was using a few years ago. There was supposed 
to be a hint of pink that didn't really come through, but i'm happy with it 
nonetheless. 

It was the result of buying a blem frame from Rivendell and deciding I was 
going to make it my own. I think it started it's life as an orange bike 
originally. 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 9:31:26 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Michael, 
> I don't think I ever saw a red Hillborne. Quite stunning. A custom color 
> or maybe the red which was used on a select few Atlanti?
> I have a good friend who owns a couple of Bob Jacksons and a couple of 
> Rivendells. So, that will be a question (his preference between them) I 
> will have to pose to him.
> Paul
>
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 02:13:26 PM EDT, Michael Baquerizo <
> mbaqu...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> my guy after an extremely long over due wash.
>
> i recently put together a bob jackson audax, trying to scratch the itch of 
> a rambouillet like frame. i hated it almost immediately and it made me 
> appreciate my Sam that much more. 
>
> Obviously missing a chain, missing a Campee rear rack as well. 
>
>
> [image: IMG_1284.jpeg]
>
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 1:31:49 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> I would love to have both a fenderless Sam set up with RH knobbies (or 
> similar) and a fendered, rando-type build like mine. It's that good of a 
> bike that I want two :D 
>
> Mine, yesterday on a 100km chill pace, many stops ride with a few friends
>
> [image: PXL_20240520_165707807.jpg]
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 7:18 AM Pancake  wrote:
>
> That is one FINE looking Sam! 
> I miss it already but sure happy you’re giving it a nice rebuild and 
> really riding it!
> Abe 
>
> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:03:50 PM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I finally got around to snapping a photo of my 56cm 2TT Sam that I snagged 
> from Abe here on the group. Exploring some of the unfinished Beltline here 
> in Atlanta.
>
> Highlights include a Paul Racers/levers/moon units, a Son Edelux & Dynamo 
> wheel from Rich, Rene Herse 44cm Manastash Ridge , Marks/Campee Nitto 
> racks, Deore XT Rapid Rise, Silver Shifters and Lots of Blue Lug 
> adornments(Frame pad, safety triangle, chain guard). Also, some bags I 
> already had(and match stupidly well) from The Spindle 
>  here in ATL. The Saddle is a Green B17 
> Special, though it looks black here. 
>
> Absolutely loving this bike, and really happy to have found the biggest 
> straight top tube frame I can stand over(834mm).
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: TRP RRL vs Shimano Tiagra

[Toshi Takeuchi]

For me, the big difference is whether or not I am riding in the drops or on
the hoods.  For descents, I often will ride in the drops to reduce wind
resistance and the TRP levers with the outward bend make it easier to brake
while in the drops.  However, I find the Shimano levers more comfortable on
the hoods.

Nevertheless, I tend to ride more in the drops than the hoods, so TRPs are
the winner for me.

Toshi in Oakland

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[RBW] Re: FS: Phil Wood CHP platform pedals

[Kim H.]

Paypal payment, please.

Kim Hetzel. 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 6:34:52 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> [image: 20240517_151119.jpg]
> [image: 20240517_151356.jpg]
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 6:33:44 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> I have a used pair of Phil Wood platform pedals from the late 1970's. 
>> They are not perfect. Both of them have beausage cracks in them from being 
>> scraped against asphalt pavement in cornering around turns in the roads 
>> that I cycled. 
>>
>> Despite the flaws, the pedals still function very well. The bearings are 
>> very smooth.
>>
>> There are more pictures upon request.
>>
>> How about $40.00, shipped in the CONUS 
>> or your best offers.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>
>> [image: 20240517_151102.jpg]
>> [image: 20240517_151203.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Will the 50cm Susie be too small?

[John C]

Too late! I actually went with the gold in 50cm. 

FWIW, I compared the frame size after delivery to my vintage Stumpjumper 
(with Ron's Ortho bars), and Bombora. I actually don't think it will be an 
issue. The Susie has a much longer TT and both of those bikes fit me well. 

I'll post up the final build once it's complete. 



On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 12:39:04 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

> I'd second the opinion that you want the medium.  As another with a 
> proportionally long torso, Rivendell (or even most other bikes)  rarely 
> have a long enough top tube for me.  The beauty of the susie is that you 
> can get a longer bike and still have standover clearance.  You might find 
> the stack height a bit tall, but you can play with stems to de-emphasize 
> that.  It'll probably be the best-fitting bike you've ever owned.
>
> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 1:23:44 PM UTC-6 Ginz wrote:
>
>> How long are your arms?  For me, that would be the deciding factor as to 
>> whether I'd want a longer or shorter top tube.
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:37:05 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>
>>> I am 5'6 with an 83 pbh and not long torso. For me, the medium Susie is 
>>> perfect. The bike overall feels big in a very fun way but the dimensions 
>>> within the cockpit are quite comfy. In fact, my bosco bars are a little 
>>> closer than I'd normally choose but the bike came with them and I'm not 
>>> sufficiently motivated to make any changes. In this photo, the top of my 
>>> saddle is at 72 and the bottom of its rails are at 64. There is plenty of 
>>> room to lower the saddle. On the other side, the dirt drop stem, which you 
>>> cannot see, is completely slammed. With a different combination of stem and 
>>> bars, you could likely make it work for you. I think it depends on whether 
>>> you instinctively prefer a compact feeling frame or a larger one. I've 
>>> always liked being on larger-feeling bikes. When in doubt, call Rivendell 
>>> and ask their opinion. Good luck!
>>>
>>> [image: Susie M.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 1:34:17 PM UTC-6 johnwc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hey y’all, longtime lurker here. Looking to potentially pick up my 
 first Riv and have a few questions about sizing. Maybe someone with 
 similar 
 measurements and own a Susie/Gus could chime in. 

 I’m looking at the 50cm in gold color. Riv says:


- 50cm  (650B wheels): 74-76cm. Saddle height: 63cm to 65cm
- 53cm (650B wheels):  77-88cm. Saddle height: 66cm to 77cm

 My PBH is: 76.5cm-78cm measured multiple times. I’m 5’6 with a longer 
 torso. 

 Saddle height: 64cm (most of my bikes are Riv inspired vtg MTBs with 
 upright bars and this feels comfy for me)

 Seems like I'm on the edge between Med / Small. Can the small fit 
 without feeling too cramped? FWIW, I rode a Gus test bike years ago at 
 Rivelo here in PDX while it was still open. They were fantastic, but 
 unfortunately I can't remember if I rode a small or med size frame.  




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[RBW] Re: FS: 55 Platypus in Mermaid

[Ari Kelman]

I should note that my price is flexible. I want to find the right home for 
this lovely bike that's in as-new condition. 

On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 9:40:37 AM UTC-7 Ari Kelman wrote:

> I'm located in Davis, CA. I'd be happy to meet someone in the Bay Area or 
> the Sacramento region for a test drive. Thanks!
>
> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 7:56:31 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Kelm,
>> Location ?
>>
>> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 7:39:07 PM UTC-7 kelm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Shimano ders, Paul brakes, WI bb, Silver crank, Boscomoose bar, Nitto 
>>> post, Riv-built wheels (WI hubs/Quill rims), etc.
>>>
>>> The bike has been ridden three times. $2500 obo. Includes  extras.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> [image: Platy.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

[Keith Paugh]

Chris - Outstanding on all counts.👌k.On May 21, 2024, at 2:18 PM, Chris Halasz  wrote:When I'm not auditioning for Spaceballs (that is a helmet cover), I sometimes bring binos into the hills with the high mileage point and shoot. It's not about the pixels, it's about the dynamic range. And I just love the small but high utility Arkel signature bar bag, double duty as an over-the-shoulder/sling bag. Cheers, Chris On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:Speaking of cameras on bikes, I remember coming across this cool story of Frank Lenz a while back. Is anybody else carrying a 15lb camera and a 10lb pith helmet?Frank Lenz: The Lost CyclistCheers, JohnOn Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:40:51 PM UTC-7 Chester wrote:Nick Payne wrote:On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 1:03:44 pm UTC+10 Chester wrote:Really appreciate bigger sensors being available in pocketable packages. I don't ride in jerseys any more, so I haven't settled on the best way to carry even a really compact camera like an RX100 or GR. Even when just riding with my phone, with it in the pocket of a normal pair of shorts, it's not a great to wrestle it out while pedaling. Have ridding a couple times with the RX100 in a stem pouch and that's probably the best carry option I've used so far. Ir maybe that sort of bag worn on a belt, or...a fanny pack.For carrying phone/cameras, I've been using one of the Routewerks handlebar bags for several years. That looks really really practical. I need to do a deep dive into getting a new handlebar bag. Would like a bigger one and one with a quick release so it's less fiddly to not leave my bag behind when stopping somewhere while riding around town. Using mustache handlebars complicates things a little, but deciding to go with pink accents even more so.Think for larger cameras with interchangeable lenses, even if a relatively small one with a not-big lens, is gonna be best carried in a bigger handelbar bag. Using a shoulder strap with a stabilizer strap works well too, but I just don't want the weight on me, even if it's not all that much. So far, for the RX100, a stem pouch has been pretty good, and I've stuck a folded innertube at the bottom of the bag to raise the floor and make it easier to get the camera out while pedaling. But this definitely won't take an MILC, unless it's an especially small body and especially flat pancake lens.Another camera that I wish I had to try out for carrying while riding is a Panasonic LX100. Pretty compact all-in-one with a 24-75mm (equiv) zoom and m43 sensor. ChesterSF Bay Area



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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I use the same type of insert and have never had a problem with a camera that 
I’ve carried. The padded inserts also have the side benefit of making it harder 
to carry a bunch of useless stuff in the bag. 

--Eric Norris
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YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On May 21, 2024, at 10:26 AM, David Hays <23writ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I use padded inserts in my GB, Ostrich and Cory Brenn bags to safely carry my 
> cameras.
> Today it was an Olympus Pen in my GB bag on the my Homer and tomorrow 
> probably my Leica M240 in my Cory Brent on my Mercian.
> I sometimes rationalize the bikes as facilitating my photography and at 
> others my photography motivates my cycling…
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <2020-Mercian-2.26.22jpg.jpg>
> 
>> On May 16, 2024, at 10:31 AM, Ted Durant  wrote:
>> 
>> The aforementioned OM-D E-M5 MkII with Panasonic 20mm/f1.7 lens, perched on 
>> the Berthoud bag on my Waterford.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie green color discrepancy

[Gordon Stam]

That color looks a whole lot like the old Pea Sage Green, which is what my
Romulus is painted with.

On Tue, May 14, 2024, 6:55 PM tio ryan  wrote:

> that's rad, wish my platypus had shifter bosses!
>
> -tio ryan
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 7:18:39 PM UTC-4 tal...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Confirmation that it has shifter bosses, not housing stops like on Riv's
>> website. Also, confirmation of the color matching Riv's website better than
>> the Blue Lug photos.
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240514_231117156.jpg]
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 2:20:07 PM UTC-6 Aaron Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Good catch. Not a lot of other sources for photos yet, but this
>>> Instagram post seems to have the ones from Riv's site.
>>>
>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/C66GqP7OwjN/?img_index=1
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 1:33:45 PM UTC-6 jdura...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I'm curious about the DT shifter bosses.  Different on the Blue Lug vs
 the Riv photos.
 Maybe I missed something in one of Will's emails?  Either way,
 beautiful frames.
 Jim
 On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 12:08:57 PM UTC-7 tal...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Tio Ryan.
>
> Of note, my green Susie just shipped. Exciting.
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 12:24:54 PM UTC-6 tio ryan wrote:
>
>> I have a sergio green platypus and the color is much more like the
>> riv pics than the blue lug image — the tan sidewalls on the wtb tires 
>> looks
>> off as well.
>>
>> rest assured, sergio green is a lovely color in person (imo)
>>
>> -tio in bk
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 1:58:17 PM UTC-4 tal...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe it is just a white balance issue. They just look so starkly
>>> different.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 11:50:26 AM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I don't think that 'against a drab white wall' shot is going to be
 indicative of how Sergio Green will look outside while riding.

 On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 10:31:58 AM UTC-7 tal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Saw Blue Lug's most recent Instagram story with what looks like
> some pictures of the new Susies in both colors. The green looks
> substantially different than the image on Riv's website. Makes me 
> wish I'd
> ordered an orange...
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Silver 30mm Analog/DISCORD COMPONENTS W(RIGHT) STEM

[NYCbikeguy]

Ah, I have the 0mm version, new. 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 11:47:54 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> Like it says, I would like to purchase your currently out-of-stock silver 
> 30mm Analog/DISCORD COMPONENTS W(RIGHT) STEM.
>
> Thanks in advance.
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[RBW] WTB: Silver 30mm Analog/DISCORD COMPONENTS W(RIGHT) STEM

[Conway Bennett]

Like it says, I would like to purchase your currently out-of-stock silver 
30mm Analog/DISCORD COMPONENTS W(RIGHT) STEM.

Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne sizing advice

[J S]

If I listened to rivendell on what size stem to use it would quite a bit 
longer. I opted fot a shorter stem and that works for me. Maybe you should 
call Rivendell to see that the stem length was on the bike you ride, then 
go down a smidge on a 60 to bring the bars closer. I think I use an 8cm 
stem on my Hillborne, the folks at Riv suggested at least am 11. I know my 
body. Good luck. 
On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 10:55:25 PM UTC-4 gre...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you for the pictures and stating the saddle hight! Super helpful. 
> With my saddle hight being 79 or 80 that's more post than I want. Feeling 
> good about buying the 60cm as well. 
>
> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 5:54:31 p.m. UTC-6 David B wrote:
>
>> I did end up going back to the Riv shop last week to test ride a few more 
>> bikes and nail down my size. Everyone I've talked to at the shop is in 
>> consensus that the 60 Hillborne is the best fit for me, and I'd say I 
>> definitely agree with them. I test rode a 57 Hillborne and 64 Homer, both 
>> set up with swept bars.
>>
>> Here is what the 57 Hillborne looked like with a saddle height of 82cm. 
>> It felt a lot smaller than I remembered. 
>> [image: unnamed.jpg]
>>
>> Here is what the 64 Homer looked like with the same saddle height. I was 
>> really comfortable in this setup, but I had zero standover clearance and I 
>> don't think drop bars would have worked as well.
>> [image: IMG_3383.JPG]
>>
>> I can't say for sure whether the 60 Hillborne will be a perfect fit, but 
>> out of the sizes available, it definitely seems like the best option for my 
>> PBH and height. I ended up ordering a size 60 frameset and will report back 
>> with an update when I finish building it up.
>> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:53:40 PM UTC-7 gre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Please report back when you get your new sam or the chance to ride the 
>>> different sizes. I am wanting to get a sam for a dedicated drop bar rando 
>>> bike. I am  6'1" PBH 90 and my 60cm Appaloosa fits just how I like with a 
>>> wavy style handlebar. I'm thinking about buying a 60cm SH from my local 
>>> shop but a little concerned about it being big for me using drops. Would 
>>> love to hear about your experience.
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 8:59:10 p.m. UTC-6 Collin A wrote:
>>>
 David,

 You are in Berkeley, you should BART over to RIv World HQ and test one 
 out on the local loop up in shell ridge (its dry and perfect riding 
 conditions right now!). Last I remember there is a 57 demo with 
 billie/alba, but might be worth calling them first before making the 
 appointment.

 Collin, also in Berkeley, but with an 81cm PBH.

 On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 11:06:45 PM UTC-7 David B wrote:

> Hey all, first time posting here. I'm planning on grabbing a Sam 
> Hillborne frameset when they go on sale this month. It'll be my first 
> Rivendell. I decided on the Hillborne as a replacement for my 56cm Cross 
> Check, which has never been comfortable for me. The short headtube puts 
> the 
> bars too far below my saddle.
>
> I have a pair of Billie bars I'd like to put on the Hillborne for 
> daily commuting, grocery getting, and some light off road riding. I'd 
> also 
> like to have the option to use drop bars at some point down the line.
>
> I went to the Rivendell shop a few weeks ago to test ride a few bikes 
> and get sized. I'm 6' with a 92 PBH (long legs, short torso), and based 
> on 
> the Sam geo chart, my PBH puts me firmly in the size 60 Sam range. They 
> didn't have a 60 Hillborne around, so I instead rode a 57 Sam and a 
> couple 
> of 61.5 Homers with different cockpit setups. 
>
>- The 57 Sam was set up with wide, swept back bars (Ron's Ortho 
>bars) and was comfortable. We did have to raise the seatpost up pretty 
> high 
>to get the saddle in a good position.
>- The first 61.5 Homer was set up with Billie bars and was also 
>comfortable. The saddle was pretty close to the top tube, however - 
> there 
>was maybe a little less than a fistful of seatpost showing.
>- The second 61.5 Homer with drops made me feel a little stretched 
>out. The saddle was raised up higher than ideal for my height, but the 
> bike 
>belonged to a staff member who wasn't around that day, and so we 
> didn't 
>adjust the saddle position. Part of me thinks it might have worked 
> with a 
>lower saddle, shorter stem, and higher bars, but I'm not totally sure.
>
> I left feeling like a 60 Sam would work for me, but I'm now second 
> guessing whether it makes more sense to go down to the 57 for a shorter 
> top 
> tube length. However, the size 57 Sam has a suggested PBH range of 86-89, 
> which is 3cm lower than my PBH of 92. 
>
> Could anyone share if you've had a similar experien

[RBW] Re: FS: Salsa Casseroll Canti front rack

[Graham McCall]

Emailed

On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 11:03:22 PM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bump
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>
>> Rack is still available
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 10:00:17 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I purchased this Salsa Casseroll canti front rack here about 2 weeks 
>>> ago, but have since decided to run a different front rack.
>>>
>>> Link to photos  - $80 
>>> shipped, or $65 picked up in Sacramento, CA
>>>
>>> Please feel free to reach out with any questions. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne sizing advice

[Tom]

I'm 6' tall with a 89.5 PBH.  Someone here posted that, if on the fence 
size-wise, they usually size down for a drop bar setup and size up for a 
swept-back bar setup.  That is also my experience.  

For those close to my height and PBH, the following list of Rivs, sizes, 
and bar setups has worked for me.  I'll happy to answer any questions you 
may have about them:
- 58 Sam: drop (Noodle -- best) & swept (Albatross -- a little cramped)
- 59 Clem H: swept (Albatross, Jones, Bullmoose, Losco)
- 61 Roadini: drop (stretching it, 5cm stem) & swept (Albatross (regular & 
inverted), Jitensha, Ahearne+Map, Wavie)
- 61.5 Homer: swept (Albatross, Jitensha, Wavie, Ahearne+Map)
- 62 Saluki: swept (Wavie, Albatross?, Ahearne+Map)
- 62 SimpleOne: swept (Albatross (regular & inverted))
- 62 Sam: swept (Albatross, Jitensha)
- 64 Atlantis - Toyo:  swept (Ahearne+Map, Albatross)

Currently I only own the 62 Sam and the 59 Clem H (and an unbuilt 58 Hunq) 
in swept bar config's.  Because I wanted something that would comfortably 
accommodate a drop bar (Noodle or a B135 Grand Raundoneur), and knowing I 
could play with stem length and dial it in, I put my name on one of the new 
57 Sam's...which has a similar-enough geo to the previous 58 Sam with a 
Noodle bar I used to own.
On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 10:55:25 PM UTC-4 gre...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you for the pictures and stating the saddle hight! Super helpful. 
> With my saddle hight being 79 or 80 that's more post than I want. Feeling 
> good about buying the 60cm as well. 
>
> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 5:54:31 p.m. UTC-6 David B wrote:
>
>> I did end up going back to the Riv shop last week to test ride a few more 
>> bikes and nail down my size. Everyone I've talked to at the shop is in 
>> consensus that the 60 Hillborne is the best fit for me, and I'd say I 
>> definitely agree with them. I test rode a 57 Hillborne and 64 Homer, both 
>> set up with swept bars.
>>
>> Here is what the 57 Hillborne looked like with a saddle height of 82cm. 
>> It felt a lot smaller than I remembered. 
>> [image: unnamed.jpg]
>>
>> Here is what the 64 Homer looked like with the same saddle height. I was 
>> really comfortable in this setup, but I had zero standover clearance and I 
>> don't think drop bars would have worked as well.
>> [image: IMG_3383.JPG]
>>
>> I can't say for sure whether the 60 Hillborne will be a perfect fit, but 
>> out of the sizes available, it definitely seems like the best option for my 
>> PBH and height. I ended up ordering a size 60 frameset and will report back 
>> with an update when I finish building it up.
>> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:53:40 PM UTC-7 gre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Please report back when you get your new sam or the chance to ride the 
>>> different sizes. I am wanting to get a sam for a dedicated drop bar rando 
>>> bike. I am  6'1" PBH 90 and my 60cm Appaloosa fits just how I like with a 
>>> wavy style handlebar. I'm thinking about buying a 60cm SH from my local 
>>> shop but a little concerned about it being big for me using drops. Would 
>>> love to hear about your experience.
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 8:59:10 p.m. UTC-6 Collin A wrote:
>>>
 David,

 You are in Berkeley, you should BART over to RIv World HQ and test one 
 out on the local loop up in shell ridge (its dry and perfect riding 
 conditions right now!). Last I remember there is a 57 demo with 
 billie/alba, but might be worth calling them first before making the 
 appointment.

 Collin, also in Berkeley, but with an 81cm PBH.

 On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 11:06:45 PM UTC-7 David B wrote:

> Hey all, first time posting here. I'm planning on grabbing a Sam 
> Hillborne frameset when they go on sale this month. It'll be my first 
> Rivendell. I decided on the Hillborne as a replacement for my 56cm Cross 
> Check, which has never been comfortable for me. The short headtube puts 
> the 
> bars too far below my saddle.
>
> I have a pair of Billie bars I'd like to put on the Hillborne for 
> daily commuting, grocery getting, and some light off road riding. I'd 
> also 
> like to have the option to use drop bars at some point down the line.
>
> I went to the Rivendell shop a few weeks ago to test ride a few bikes 
> and get sized. I'm 6' with a 92 PBH (long legs, short torso), and based 
> on 
> the Sam geo chart, my PBH puts me firmly in the size 60 Sam range. They 
> didn't have a 60 Hillborne around, so I instead rode a 57 Sam and a 
> couple 
> of 61.5 Homers with different cockpit setups. 
>
>- The 57 Sam was set up with wide, swept back bars (Ron's Ortho 
>bars) and was comfortable. We did have to raise the seatpost up pretty 
> high 
>to get the saddle in a good position.
>- The first 61.5 Homer was set up with Billie bars and was also 
>comfortable. The saddle was pretty close to the top t

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Pictures Thread

[Pancake]

That is one FINE looking Sam! 
I miss it already but sure happy you’re giving it a nice rebuild and really 
riding it!
Abe 

On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 2:03:50 PM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I finally got around to snapping a photo of my 56cm 2TT Sam that I snagged 
> from Abe here on the group. Exploring some of the unfinished Beltline here 
> in Atlanta.
>
> Highlights include a Paul Racers/levers/moon units, a Son Edelux & Dynamo 
> wheel from Rich, Rene Herse 44cm Manastash Ridge , Marks/Campee Nitto 
> racks, Deore XT Rapid Rise, Silver Shifters and Lots of Blue Lug 
> adornments(Frame pad, safety triangle, chain guard). Also, some bags I 
> already had(and match stupidly well) from The Spindle 
>  here in ATL. The Saddle is a Green B17 
> Special, though it looks black here. 
>
> Absolutely loving this bike, and really happy to have found the biggest 
> straight top tube frame I can stand over(834mm).
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Not that we need a reason.

[Ted Durant]

On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 9:45:27 AM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:

I found this interesting.  Please enjoy your day.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/05/20/1251561467/biking-knee-pain-longevity-arthritis


Another "me-too" story here. I ran xc and track in junior high and was 
somewhat competitive. In 9th grade my knees started to hurt. I stopped 
running, started riding, and have never looked back. I'd tell my father 
about riding 600km and he'd ask, incredulously, "Don't your knees hurt?" 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA 

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[RBW] WTB: Albastache Bars

[Tim Bantham]

Is anyone holding Albastache bars that you would consider selling. I'm 
thinking about trying them again on my Sam. 

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Re: [RBW] ORtlieb backroller panniers & carryon.

[Julian Westerhout]

Ortleib's hardware is mostly molded plastic/nylon,  not something that is 
likely to alarm sensors or TSA agents. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 8:11:14 AM UTC-5 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:

> So TSA  does not reject the pannier’s hardware when you carry it on the 
> plane?
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Steven Sweedler
> *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2024 6:42 AM
> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] ORtlieb backroller panniers & carryon.
>
>  
>
> I’ve used one of mine with the shoulder strap a few times and found I 
> prefer a backpack while I drag two bike boxes in and out of the airport. 
> The single shoulder strap was not as stabe as the backpack. 
>
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 9:21 PM Bernard Duhon  
> wrote:
>
> Would any of you share your experience in using an Ortlieb backroller 
> panniers as airline  carry on luggage,.
>
>  
>
> That is of course without getting kicked out by TSA.
>
>  
>
> Thanks
>
>  
>
> Bernard 
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
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[RBW] Re: Not that we need a reason.

[ascpgh]

I read that yesterday with my coffee as well. I forwarded it to several 
folks. 

Been my tonic for 36 years since my knee injury and reconstruction.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 10:45:27 AM UTC-4 Curtis wrote:

> I found this interesting.  Please enjoy your day.
>
>
> https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/05/20/1251561467/biking-knee-pain-longevity-arthritis
>
> Peace,  Curtis 
>

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