[RBW] Platypus = Appaloosa/Atlantis?

[esoterica etc]

Hi folks,

I was browsing the RIv website and saw a statement that kinda caught me off 
guard. Under the Current Models page, the description for the Platypus 
reads, "Like an Appaloosa or Atlantis, but with a step through frame."

The impression of the Platypus that I've formed from reading the ride 
reports and praises from those on this list, is that the Platypus is a 
lighter and more nimble Country-type bike-- much closer to an AHH or Sam 
Hillborne. But after seeing that blurb, it's implying that the Platypus is 
more of a stouter fully-loaded touring bike, and also more capable of 
off-road riding than the Country bikes are.

Can those who have experience with both the Platypus and Appaloosa/Atlantis 
or AHH/Sam compare the ride qualities? I'm curious if folks think the Platy 
feels closer to a loaded touring Riv or a Country Bike.

Mahalo,

~Mark
Kailua, HI

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[ascpgh]

Leah, your ride report and experiences are charging me up now for my ride 
today. My last few days have been out the door riding to work at 6am, home 
between 8:30-9pm. I am guilty of NOT having everything prepped, loaded and 
laid out this morning but I have a list I scrawled in  moments I snatched 
my attention away from the work at hand.

I caught a vacant night at an Air b&B I really like in Ohiopyle, PA that 
coincides with a night that the restaurant nearby is open so I booked it. 
I'll ride to the GAP from home and 80 miles along the Youghiogheny River to 
the town in the state park for a relaxing evening. I've arrived in the town 
on "off nights" to this wonderful hiking, biking, fishing, climbing, 
whitewater rafting, canoeing and kayaking adventure town. 

The biggest difference between my ride and Leah's will be the dearth of 
people on the way. It's Monday (riding back Tuesday) and the western heat 
dome is settling on us with mid to upper 90°s expected by noon. Except for 
oddly scheduled through-riders I don't think I'll see many others out on 
the trail. I have to pack with appreciationt of weather, safe water sources 
and several 20 mile stretches that are simply out in the woods, off road, 
along a nice river, where I will be solely responsible for food and drink, 
sustained function of my bicycle and all contingencies. 

Coffee's gone, I have to pack and Ike the wonder dog wants to look around 
the neighborhood before I set out. Trying to get going super early to avoid 
the heat won't be much of an aid, it's going to get hot but that also 
stymies my classic lunch plan by rolling through that town too early. 
Cheers to plenty of safe water and Nuun tabs!

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 12:31:38 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ok, here’s the video. I’ll switch my IG to public for a few days because 
> that link is the only way I can get a long video to post here. 
>
> [image: 448492579_1159776728393867_8612724418179187346_n.jpg]
>  
> Leah Peterson on Instagram: "I did my first real bike tour this weekend. I 
> have dreamed of and longed to do exactly this. There are so many faers I 
> had to quell along the way. Never having taken Amtrak. Knowing my bike was 
> technically too long for their dimensions, unsure if they would send me 
> away. Showing up to a ride that spanned 3 states and not having anyone to 
> ride with. Leaving my post, as I call it, trusting that my family would be 
> fine. Leif, a kind man from the Rive List offered to let me join his group 
> of 6 welcoming and experienced cyclists. The leader, Jerry, completed his 
> 10th Le Tour de Shore this year. He had several fun side quests planned. As 
> in, “You can have PB&J at the SAG stop, OR you can come to the brewery with 
> us.” Yeah, I’m going to the brewery. Or, “There’s this one little place we 
> should stop for ice cream…” Or, “This is the scenic route out of Chicago…” 
> There were 2 married couples in the group. We were nearly all the same age. 
> They knew one another thr 
> 
> Watch and share reels with friends 
> 
> 
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2024, at 3:00 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>
> Glad you had a great experience with this ride and that the Amtrak 
> logistics worked out.
>
> RE: "...Most people seemed into their own groups and I’m not sure I could 
> have just gotten in one on the fly...", yes, on these organized rides you 
> will find this will largely be the case.  Most of these people probably 
> come from some local club in the area so they stick together accordingly.  
> Over the 50+ years of serious riding I've done I finally got to the point 
> where I just ignored them and rode at my own pace.  Last organized ride I 
> did, though, was probably '07 and I'm not sure I could to another one 
> unless it was a single day event and limited to 100K.  But I've long since 
> lost my enthusiasm for them and it's unlikely I'll ever ride another.
> Oh, and now that you've gotten the "bug" don't forget about that website 
> containing a list of all the rides around Michigan during the Summer months!
>
> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:44:44 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Mike, here’s the route: 
>> https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1k9hIzhK3Zfkv06aahXt70nqzcJcL30w&ll=41.73698139329192%2C-87.4057963350737&z=9
>>
>> Valerie, You are the best. Am I a bad person if the color of that Roadeo 
>> rules it out for me? 
>>
>> Scott, how in the world did I cross paths with your wife? She was one of 
>> the only people I spoke to at the start of the ride. Yes, we are planning 
>> another lake shore ride later on. I met up with Sean, who lives in Chicago 
>> and he was begging to make another ride and 

Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Tim Bantham]

Thanks for the report Leah! I am taking my bike on Amtrak from Albany to 
Buffalo later this summer. This will be my first time taking a bike on the 
train. A friend and I will ride back on the Erie Canal trail. I had planned 
to ride my Sam Hillborne but you have me thinking why not take the Platy? 
Gives me something to thing about. 

Tim

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 5:51:12 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Leah, your ride report and experiences are charging me up now for my ride 
> today. My last few days have been out the door riding to work at 6am, home 
> between 8:30-9pm. I am guilty of NOT having everything prepped, loaded and 
> laid out this morning but I have a list I scrawled in  moments I snatched 
> my attention away from the work at hand.
>
> I caught a vacant night at an Air b&B I really like in Ohiopyle, PA that 
> coincides with a night that the restaurant nearby is open so I booked it. 
> I'll ride to the GAP from home and 80 miles along the Youghiogheny River to 
> the town in the state park for a relaxing evening. I've arrived in the town 
> on "off nights" to this wonderful hiking, biking, fishing, climbing, 
> whitewater rafting, canoeing and kayaking adventure town. 
>
> The biggest difference between my ride and Leah's will be the dearth of 
> people on the way. It's Monday (riding back Tuesday) and the western heat 
> dome is settling on us with mid to upper 90°s expected by noon. Except for 
> oddly scheduled through-riders I don't think I'll see many others out on 
> the trail. I have to pack with appreciationt of weather, safe water sources 
> and several 20 mile stretches that are simply out in the woods, off road, 
> along a nice river, where I will be solely responsible for food and drink, 
> sustained function of my bicycle and all contingencies. 
>
> Coffee's gone, I have to pack and Ike the wonder dog wants to look around 
> the neighborhood before I set out. Trying to get going super early to avoid 
> the heat won't be much of an aid, it's going to get hot but that also 
> stymies my classic lunch plan by rolling through that town too early. 
> Cheers to plenty of safe water and Nuun tabs!
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 12:31:38 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, here’s the video. I’ll switch my IG to public for a few days because 
>> that link is the only way I can get a long video to post here. 
>>
>> [image: 448492579_1159776728393867_8612724418179187346_n.jpg]
>>  
>> Leah Peterson on Instagram: "I did my first real bike tour this weekend. 
>> I have dreamed of and longed to do exactly this. There are so many faers I 
>> had to quell along the way. Never having taken Amtrak. Knowing my bike was 
>> technically too long for their dimensions, unsure if they would send me 
>> away. Showing up to a ride that spanned 3 states and not having anyone to 
>> ride with. Leaving my post, as I call it, trusting that my family would be 
>> fine. Leif, a kind man from the Rive List offered to let me join his group 
>> of 6 welcoming and experienced cyclists. The leader, Jerry, completed his 
>> 10th Le Tour de Shore this year. He had several fun side quests planned. As 
>> in, “You can have PB&J at the SAG stop, OR you can come to the brewery with 
>> us.” Yeah, I’m going to the brewery. Or, “There’s this one little place we 
>> should stop for ice cream…” Or, “This is the scenic route out of Chicago…” 
>> There were 2 married couples in the group. We were nearly all the same age. 
>> They knew one another thr 
>> 
>> Watch and share reels with friends 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2024, at 3:00 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>>
>> Glad you had a great experience with this ride and that the Amtrak 
>> logistics worked out.
>>
>> RE: "...Most people seemed into their own groups and I’m not sure I could 
>> have just gotten in one on the fly...", yes, on these organized rides you 
>> will find this will largely be the case.  Most of these people probably 
>> come from some local club in the area so they stick together accordingly.  
>> Over the 50+ years of serious riding I've done I finally got to the point 
>> where I just ignored them and rode at my own pace.  Last organized ride I 
>> did, though, was probably '07 and I'm not sure I could to another one 
>> unless it was a single day event and limited to 100K.  But I've long since 
>> lost my enthusiasm for them and it's unlikely I'll ever ride another.
>> Oh, and now that you've gotten the "bug" don't forget about that website 
>> containing a list of all the rides around Michigan during the Summer months!
>>
>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:44:44 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, here’s the route: 
>>>

[RBW] Re: Platypus = Appaloosa/Atlantis?

[Hoch in ut]

It’s confusing because if you scroll down towards the bottom of the 
homepage, and click on “Country Bikes” link, it lists the Homer, Sam and 
Plat. I’ve never ridden one so I’ll let others chime in but I also thought 
they marketed it as a country bike. But perhaps it blurs the line a bit 
since it has bigger tire clearance 

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 2:15:04 AM UTC-6 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Hi folks,
>
> I was browsing the RIv website and saw a statement that kinda caught me 
> off guard. Under the Current Models page, the description for the Platypus 
> reads, "Like an Appaloosa or Atlantis, but with a step through frame."
>
> The impression of the Platypus that I've formed from reading the ride 
> reports and praises from those on this list, is that the Platypus is a 
> lighter and more nimble Country-type bike-- much closer to an AHH or Sam 
> Hillborne. But after seeing that blurb, it's implying that the Platypus is 
> more of a stouter fully-loaded touring bike, and also more capable of 
> off-road riding than the Country bikes are.
>
> Can those who have experience with both the Platypus and 
> Appaloosa/Atlantis or AHH/Sam compare the ride qualities? I'm curious if 
> folks think the Platy feels closer to a loaded touring Riv or a Country 
> Bike.
>
> Mahalo,
>
> ~Mark
> Kailua, HI
>

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[RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

[Mathias Steiner]

The logic here is sound. Wear a helmet all the time.

The issue is that the same logic applies to wearing a helmet while driving. 
Most head injuries occur in car accidents. And then there's the home, slip 
& falls etc. A biking buddy of mine slipped on ice and hit his head, had to 
go to the hospital for a few days. No he wasn't wearing a helmet. Wasn't 
cycling either. So what am I supposed to do, put on a helmet when I get up 
in the morning? 

I mix and match, and always wear it on group rides, which were the only 
occasions I've crashed over the years. 
To make matters more complicated, I seem to get more respect from, ah, 
rural traffic when I'm wearing a ball cap. Strictly anecdotal, of course. 

cheers -m

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 12:28:40 AM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:

> *TBI sorry all
>
> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:46:27 PM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:
>
>> I had a TBA as a result of a bike crash a number of years ago, and was 
>> wearing a helmet. Had I not been, I'd be dead. So, I wear a helmet every 
>> time. 
>>
>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 9:59:40 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> $0.02: If I get hit, I want my appearance to reflect that I ride to be 
>>> safe and seen, not that I was being reckless or at the wrong place at the 
>>> wrong time. The optics unfortunately matter despite the psychology backing 
>>> up riding helmetless. All those who invented/coinvented the mountain bike 
>>> and have a mustache get the green light though IMO.  
>>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 4:45:37 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>>
 Purple potato indeed!

 https://www.theguardian.com/food/article/2024/jun/16/gordon-ramsay-lucky-to-be-here-after-us-bike-crash



 



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Re: [RBW] FS: Bags, Saddles, Parts, Handlebars, Wheelset

[R Olson]

A few more items are sold.  Here's an updated list of what's available with 
a few updated prices. 

Brooks Cambium C17 Carved All Weather Saddle, Black, $80 shipped

Stella Anatomica saddle, $60 shipped

Swift pink half frame bag, Large, 20.25 inches long,  I think I used this 
for a month, it’s basically new $80 shipped

Ortlieb rolltop rear panniers, grey, again, barely used, great condition 
$120 shipped

Swift every day caddy, teal, never used, $35 shipped.

Ritchey handlebar, 44cm wide, $50 shipped

Silver 184mm crank with bolts and two rings, $100 shipped (this is from my 
flirtation with longer cranks; if your curious, it’s no big deal, maybe 
slightly better climbing, but these are in great condition – I probably 
have a third ring or the chain protector thing if you want).

Nitto dirt drop stem, 100mm, $40 shipped

Shimano Sora 9spd brake/shift levers, $40 shipped for the pair

Shimano BR-R451 Mid Reach Caliper Brake, silver, $25 shipped

Charge spoon saddle, black, just pay for shipping to wherever you are

Velo-Orange Grand Cru long setback two bolt seatpost, 27.2 diameter x 300 
mm long, $40 shipped

Sugino 175mm double crank with rings and bolts, $40 shipped

Nitto Albatross handlebar, $70 shipped

Nitto Choco-moose handlebar, $160 shipped

Velo Orange Nouveau Randonneur Handlebars -  46cm x 31.8 Bar Clamp (Black), 
$45 shipped

Wheelset:  Velocity A23, black, with Shimano RS-400 hubs, 1330mm rear 
spacing, 36 F/R, 9 spd cassette, hand built by Black Mountain Cycles, with 
38mm Panaracer gravelking slicks with plenty of tread left, these probably 
have less than 100 miles on them  $210 shipped

I also have some black Tektro TRP brake levers that I'll sell for $30 
shipped.
On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 10:15:36 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:

> The Zeitgeist bag ans Surly rack are gone. 
>
> On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 2:25:27 PM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>
>> Forgot to mention that the A23’s are 130mm rear spacing.
>>
>> Silver shifters, monarchs and Shimano road brakes levers are gone. 
>>
>> Btw, if you want to buy a few things, I’ll discount the price a bit if 
>> I’m able to ship multiple items in one shipment.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2024, at 2:06 PM, R Olson  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have some more items for sale from my much too large collection of bike 
>> stuff.  List is in order as shown in the album linked below.  Prices 
>> incldue shipping to the lower 48.
>>
>>  
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/qUbJeSZpPWs9sJjx5
>>
>>  
>>
>> Brooks Cambium C17 Carved All Weather Saddle, Black, $80 shipped
>>
>> Stella Anatomica saddle, $60 shipped
>>
>> Swift Zeitgeist bag - Coyote brown, comes with the handlebar mounting 
>> kit, $120 shipped
>>
>> Swift pink half frame bag, Large, 20.25 inches long,  I think I used this 
>> for a month, it’s basically new $80 shipped
>>
>> Ortlieb rolltop rear panniers, grey, again, barely used, great condition 
>> $120 shipped
>>
>> Swift every day caddy, teal, never used, $35 shipped.
>>
>> Ritchey handlebar, 44cm wide, $50 shipped
>>
>> Sugino 172.5mm double crank with bolts and rings, $40 shipped
>>
>> Silver 184mm crank with bolts and two rings, $100 shipped (this is from 
>> my flirtation with longer cranks; if your curious, it’s no big deal, maybe 
>> slightly better climbing, but these are in great condition – I probably 
>> have a third ring or the chain protector thing if you want).
>>
>> Nitto dirt drop stem, 100mm, $40 shipped
>>
>> Shimano road brake levers, just pay for shipping to wherever you are
>>
>> Shimano Sora 9spd brake/shift levers, $40 shipped for the pair
>>
>> Shimano BR-R451 Mid Reach Caliper Brake, silver, $25 shipped
>>
>> Charge spoon saddle, black, just pay for shipping to wherever you are
>>
>> Velo-Orange Grand Cru long setback two bolt seatpost, 27.2 diameter x 300 
>> mm long, $40 shipped 
>>
>> Surly 8-pack front rack, $55 shipped
>>
>> Shimano BL-R3000 Sora Flat Bar Road Brake Levers, black, pay for shipping 
>> (ideal with the Tektro brakes if you want both)
>>
>> Tektro R559 brakes, black, $40 shipped
>>
>> Sugino 175mm double crank with rings and bolts, $40 shipped
>>
>> Silver 1 shifters with bar end pods, $20 shipped
>>
>> Monarch pedals, silver, $50 shipped
>>
>> Nitto Albatross handlebar, $70 shipped
>>
>> Nitto Choco-moose handlebar, $180 shipped
>>
>> Velo Orange Nouveau Randonneur Handlebars -  46cm x 31.8 Bar Clamp 
>> (Black), $45 shipped
>> Wheelset:  Velocity A23, black, with Shimano RS-400 hubs, 36 F/R, 9 spd 
>> cassette, hand built by Black Mountain Cycles, with 38mm Panaracer 
>> gravelking slicks with plenty of tread left, these probably have less than 
>> 100 miles on them  $220 shipped
>>
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[RBW] Airline travel case recommendation

[Bernard Duhon]

Gang,
I'm looking for recommendations for airline travel case.
Hardshell?
Softshell?
Model?
Brand?

The case alone should weigh not too much above 20 pounds as my touring bike 
with racks is pretty close to 30 pounds and I want to keep it under the airline 
50 pound weight limit.




Yours sincerely,


Bernard F. Duhon


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[RBW] Re: Airline travel case recommendation

[Hoch in ut]

What bike/size? There are road bike/dropbar specific cases, ones for long 
bike (aka new breed of Riv’s), etc. 

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 8:02:59 AM UTC-6 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:

>  
>  
>   
>  
>  
> Gang,
> I'm looking for recommendations for airline travel case.
> Hardshell?
> Softshell?
> Model?
> Brand?
>  
> The case alone should weigh not too much above 20 pounds as my touring 
> bike with racks is pretty close to 30 pounds and I want to keep it under 
> the airline 50 pound weight limit.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Yours sincerely, 
>  
>
> Bernard F. Duhon
>  
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus = Appaloosa/Atlantis?

['Drurad' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It definitely feels much closer to a Hillborne to me.  

-Andrew

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 5:00:21 AM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:

> It’s confusing because if you scroll down towards the bottom of the 
> homepage, and click on “Country Bikes” link, it lists the Homer, Sam and 
> Plat. I’ve never ridden one so I’ll let others chime in but I also thought 
> they marketed it as a country bike. But perhaps it blurs the line a bit 
> since it has bigger tire clearance 
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 2:15:04 AM UTC-6 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I was browsing the RIv website and saw a statement that kinda caught me 
>> off guard. Under the Current Models page, the description for the Platypus 
>> reads, "Like an Appaloosa or Atlantis, but with a step through frame."
>>
>> The impression of the Platypus that I've formed from reading the ride 
>> reports and praises from those on this list, is that the Platypus is a 
>> lighter and more nimble Country-type bike-- much closer to an AHH or Sam 
>> Hillborne. But after seeing that blurb, it's implying that the Platypus is 
>> more of a stouter fully-loaded touring bike, and also more capable of 
>> off-road riding than the Country bikes are.
>>
>> Can those who have experience with both the Platypus and 
>> Appaloosa/Atlantis or AHH/Sam compare the ride qualities? I'm curious if 
>> folks think the Platy feels closer to a loaded touring Riv or a Country 
>> Bike.
>>
>> Mahalo,
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Kailua, HI
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus = Appaloosa/Atlantis?

[DavidP]

I'd guess that Riv liken it to the Appaloosa/Atlantis rather than the Sam 
or Homer due to tire clearances. It'll clear 2.1s, most 2.2s, and some 
2.25s. 

Those tire clearances do make it pretty capable on dirt, but it's best on 
mild trails. The Platypus frame page suggests it's "for mostly pavement 
riding with loads from zero to 30 pounds". I assume the weight limit and 
mostly pavement designation is largely due to the step-through frame 
without Clem stout tubing.

Like most Rivs, where it falls on the spectrum of light and nimble vs tough 
and capable depends a lot on how you build it - wheels and tires, handlebar 
width, etc. Eben Weiss touches on this a bit in this look at how his 
Platypus has evolved:
https://bikesnobnyc.com/2023/09/19/evolution-of-a-platypus/#more-20233

My Platypus has 50mm tires (GravelKing SKs measuring 2") and fenders, with 
a light front rack and basket and is used as a cruisy allrounder. It's 
great around town but also at home on mixed surface outings.

-Dave

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 8:00:21 AM UTC-4 Hoch in ut wrote:

> It’s confusing because if you scroll down towards the bottom of the 
> homepage, and click on “Country Bikes” link, it lists the Homer, Sam and 
> Plat. I’ve never ridden one so I’ll let others chime in but I also thought 
> they marketed it as a country bike. But perhaps it blurs the line a bit 
> since it has bigger tire clearance 
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 2:15:04 AM UTC-6 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I was browsing the RIv website and saw a statement that kinda caught me 
>> off guard. Under the Current Models page, the description for the Platypus 
>> reads, "Like an Appaloosa or Atlantis, but with a step through frame."
>>
>> The impression of the Platypus that I've formed from reading the ride 
>> reports and praises from those on this list, is that the Platypus is a 
>> lighter and more nimble Country-type bike-- much closer to an AHH or Sam 
>> Hillborne. But after seeing that blurb, it's implying that the Platypus is 
>> more of a stouter fully-loaded touring bike, and also more capable of 
>> off-road riding than the Country bikes are.
>>
>> Can those who have experience with both the Platypus and 
>> Appaloosa/Atlantis or AHH/Sam compare the ride qualities? I'm curious if 
>> folks think the Platy feels closer to a loaded touring Riv or a Country 
>> Bike.
>>
>> Mahalo,
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Kailua, HI
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Airline travel case recommendation

[Jay Lonner]

I’ve been happy with the Evoc bike bag pro:Bike Bag Proevocsports.usJay LonnerBellingham, WASent from my Atari 400On Jun 17, 2024, at 7:02 AM, Bernard Duhon  wrote:








 
 





























 
 
 







Gang,
I'm looking for recommendations for airline travel case.
Hardshell?
Softshell?
Model?
Brand?
 
The case alone should weigh not too much above 20 pounds as my touring bike with racks is pretty close to 30 pounds and I want to keep it under the airline 50 pound weight limit.
 
 
 
 
Yours sincerely, 
 


Bernard F. Duhon
 
 






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[RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

[Max S]

Very nicely put, Mathias. I can relate my experiences with riding on city 
streets, mountain biking, gravel riding, racing in crits, crashing in 
various ways, *etc.*, but it's all borderline article-of-faith stuff, 
anyway. While I used to wear a helmet on rides religiously between ages 15 
and 30, at some point I started to get massive headaches after just a half 
hour of doing so. I've tried many different shapes and brands, some costing 
upward of $250, same thing. So, for the past 15+ years, I've taken to 
riding mainly dirt roads and stopped wearing a helmet. My speed and 
position haven't changed. I've noticed two main things:  1) I don't get 
headaches from riding, and 2) more drivers give me greater courtesy / 
respect than before. 

- Max "living on the edge" in A2 

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 8:41:41 AM UTC-4 Mathias Steiner wrote:

> The logic here is sound. Wear a helmet all the time.
>
> The issue is that the same logic applies to wearing a helmet while 
> driving. Most head injuries occur in car accidents. And then there's the 
> home, slip & falls etc. A biking buddy of mine slipped on ice and hit his 
> head, had to go to the hospital for a few days. No he wasn't wearing a 
> helmet. Wasn't cycling either. So what am I supposed to do, put on a helmet 
> when I get up in the morning? 
>
> I mix and match, and always wear it on group rides, which were the only 
> occasions I've crashed over the years. 
> To make matters more complicated, I seem to get more respect from, ah, 
> rural traffic when I'm wearing a ball cap. Strictly anecdotal, of course. 
>
> cheers -m
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 12:28:40 AM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:
>
>> *TBI sorry all
>>
>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:46:27 PM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:
>>
>>> I had a TBA as a result of a bike crash a number of years ago, and was 
>>> wearing a helmet. Had I not been, I'd be dead. So, I wear a helmet every 
>>> time. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 9:59:40 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 $0.02: If I get hit, I want my appearance to reflect that I ride to be 
 safe and seen, not that I was being reckless or at the wrong place at the 
 wrong time. The optics unfortunately matter despite the psychology backing 
 up riding helmetless. All those who invented/coinvented the mountain bike 
 and have a mustache get the green light though IMO.  
 On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 4:45:37 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:

> Purple potato indeed!
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/food/article/2024/jun/16/gordon-ramsay-lucky-to-be-here-after-us-bike-crash
>
>
>
> 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Bags, Saddles, Parts, Handlebars, Wheelset

[R Olson]

The Tektro R559 brakes, TRP levers, and Brook C17 saddle are gone.

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 7:12:40 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:

> A few more items are sold.  Here's an updated list of what's available 
> with a few updated prices. 
>
> Brooks Cambium C17 Carved All Weather Saddle, Black, $80 shipped
>
> Stella Anatomica saddle, $60 shipped
>
> Swift pink half frame bag, Large, 20.25 inches long,  I think I used this 
> for a month, it’s basically new $80 shipped
>
> Ortlieb rolltop rear panniers, grey, again, barely used, great condition 
> $120 shipped
>
> Swift every day caddy, teal, never used, $35 shipped.
>
> Ritchey handlebar, 44cm wide, $50 shipped
>
> Silver 184mm crank with bolts and two rings, $100 shipped (this is from my 
> flirtation with longer cranks; if your curious, it’s no big deal, maybe 
> slightly better climbing, but these are in great condition – I probably 
> have a third ring or the chain protector thing if you want).
>
> Nitto dirt drop stem, 100mm, $40 shipped
>
> Shimano Sora 9spd brake/shift levers, $40 shipped for the pair
>
> Shimano BR-R451 Mid Reach Caliper Brake, silver, $25 shipped
>
> Charge spoon saddle, black, just pay for shipping to wherever you are
>
> Velo-Orange Grand Cru long setback two bolt seatpost, 27.2 diameter x 300 
> mm long, $40 shipped
>
> Sugino 175mm double crank with rings and bolts, $40 shipped
>
> Nitto Albatross handlebar, $70 shipped
>
> Nitto Choco-moose handlebar, $160 shipped
>
> Velo Orange Nouveau Randonneur Handlebars -  46cm x 31.8 Bar Clamp 
> (Black), $45 shipped
>
> Wheelset:  Velocity A23, black, with Shimano RS-400 hubs, 1330mm rear 
> spacing, 36 F/R, 9 spd cassette, hand built by Black Mountain Cycles, with 
> 38mm Panaracer gravelking slicks with plenty of tread left, these probably 
> have less than 100 miles on them  $210 shipped
>
> I also have some black Tektro TRP brake levers that I'll sell for $30 
> shipped.
> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 10:15:36 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>
>> The Zeitgeist bag ans Surly rack are gone. 
>>
>> On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 2:25:27 PM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>>
>>> Forgot to mention that the A23’s are 130mm rear spacing.
>>>
>>> Silver shifters, monarchs and Shimano road brakes levers are gone. 
>>>
>>> Btw, if you want to buy a few things, I’ll discount the price a bit if 
>>> I’m able to ship multiple items in one shipment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2024, at 2:06 PM, R Olson  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have some more items for sale from my much too large collection of 
>>> bike stuff.  List is in order as shown in the album linked below.  Prices 
>>> incldue shipping to the lower 48.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/qUbJeSZpPWs9sJjx5
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Brooks Cambium C17 Carved All Weather Saddle, Black, $80 shipped
>>>
>>> Stella Anatomica saddle, $60 shipped
>>>
>>> Swift Zeitgeist bag - Coyote brown, comes with the handlebar mounting 
>>> kit, $120 shipped
>>>
>>> Swift pink half frame bag, Large, 20.25 inches long,  I think I used 
>>> this for a month, it’s basically new $80 shipped
>>>
>>> Ortlieb rolltop rear panniers, grey, again, barely used, great condition 
>>> $120 shipped
>>>
>>> Swift every day caddy, teal, never used, $35 shipped.
>>>
>>> Ritchey handlebar, 44cm wide, $50 shipped
>>>
>>> Sugino 172.5mm double crank with bolts and rings, $40 shipped
>>>
>>> Silver 184mm crank with bolts and two rings, $100 shipped (this is from 
>>> my flirtation with longer cranks; if your curious, it’s no big deal, maybe 
>>> slightly better climbing, but these are in great condition – I probably 
>>> have a third ring or the chain protector thing if you want).
>>>
>>> Nitto dirt drop stem, 100mm, $40 shipped
>>>
>>> Shimano road brake levers, just pay for shipping to wherever you are
>>>
>>> Shimano Sora 9spd brake/shift levers, $40 shipped for the pair
>>>
>>> Shimano BR-R451 Mid Reach Caliper Brake, silver, $25 shipped
>>>
>>> Charge spoon saddle, black, just pay for shipping to wherever you are
>>>
>>> Velo-Orange Grand Cru long setback two bolt seatpost, 27.2 diameter x 
>>> 300 mm long, $40 shipped 
>>>
>>> Surly 8-pack front rack, $55 shipped
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R3000 Sora Flat Bar Road Brake Levers, black, pay for 
>>> shipping (ideal with the Tektro brakes if you want both)
>>>
>>> Tektro R559 brakes, black, $40 shipped
>>>
>>> Sugino 175mm double crank with rings and bolts, $40 shipped
>>>
>>> Silver 1 shifters with bar end pods, $20 shipped
>>>
>>> Monarch pedals, silver, $50 shipped
>>>
>>> Nitto Albatross handlebar, $70 shipped
>>>
>>> Nitto Choco-moose handlebar, $180 shipped
>>>
>>> Velo Orange Nouveau Randonneur Handlebars -  46cm x 31.8 Bar Clamp 
>>> (Black), $45 shipped
>>> Wheelset:  Velocity A23, black, with Shimano RS-400 hubs, 36 F/R, 9 spd 
>>> cassette, hand built by Black Mountain Cycles, with 38mm Panaracer 
>>> gravelking slicks with plenty of tread left, these probably have less than 
>>> 100 miles on them  $220 ship

[RBW] Re: Platypus = Appaloosa/Atlantis?

[Michael Connors]

https://youtu.be/Yx83uMhIgKA?t=3179



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[RBW] Re: Platypus = Appaloosa/Atlantis?

[Michael Connors]

Blue Lug did a discussion on youtube. Watch the Appaloosa and Platypus 
segments
https://youtu.be/Yx83uMhIgKA?t=3179

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RE: [RBW] Re: Airline travel case recommendation

[Bernard Duhon]

My airline travel case
the bike would be a 52 cm.
I would like a case that would accommodate both my dropbar and my touring bike 
with albatross bars






Bernard F. Duhon
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Hoch in ut
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:23 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Airline travel case recommendation

What bike/size? There are road bike/dropbar specific cases, ones for long bike 
(aka new breed of Riv’s), etc.
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 8:02:59 AM UTC-6 
ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:






Gang,
I'm looking for recommendations for airline travel case.
Hardshell?
Softshell?
Model?
Brand?

The case alone should weigh not too much above 20 pounds as my touring bike 
with racks is pretty close to 30 pounds and I want to keep it under the airline 
50 pound weight limit.




Yours sincerely,


Bernard F. Duhon


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[RBW] Re: Replacing Albastache with Losco

[J Schwartz]

thanks , very helpful !
the bridge is the trestle path in Rosendale NY

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 1:37:01 AM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I agree with the previous comments on trying things out via adapter; I 
> also agree it's a great looking bike and a beauty photo! 
>
> I would place my bet that you'll find a 11 or 12cm stem to be right. I 
> know that's massively longer than what you have right now, but the Losco 
> indeed comes back a LOT. I too believe it's the right bar based on your 
> current reach and bar height though! 
>
> On Sunday 16 June 2024 at 05:25:16 UTC-7 tandyn...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Love the negative extension of the Wright stem in the reddit post. After 
>> seeing that, I would totally try the BJ stem backwards if reach was the 
>> issue. I use Albastache on my 55 Platypus with a 50mm Technomic Stem. It's 
>> great for me, now the BJ stem has me curious. 
>> On Thursday, June 13, 2024 at 6:16:53 PM UTC-4 Chester wrote:
>>
>>> J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>> Currently built up with Albastache bars on a very short stem ...this Crust 
>>> stem 
>>>  
>>> with only 25mm on extension.  
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, below is off topic, but good luck on getting things dialed in 
>>> with a Losco.
>>>
>>> This all reminded me of coming across a picture of one of the Wright 
>>> Brothers' bicycles that is in the Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum:
>>>
>>> https://airandspace.si.edu/multimedia-gallery/52387315912af98bcb12fojpg
>>>
>>> Saw it in a Reddit thread...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/1d8n0ls/original_wright_brothersbuilt_bicycle_1_of_only_5/
>>>
>>> ...with one of the comments highlighting a couple stems that Analog 
>>> Cycles sells, with some commentary of prevailing geometry at the time the 
>>> Wrights made bikes:
>>>
>>> https://analogcycles.com/products/analog-wright-stem
>>>
>>> Chester
>>> SF Bay Area
>>>  
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Salsa Casseroll Canti front rack

[Todd G]

Thanks all, the rack has been sold.

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 8:56:10 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:

> As of today the rack is still available. Please reach out with any 
> questions!
>
> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 9:59:44 AM UTC-7 Steve wrote:
>
>> Todd, PM sent. Thanks
>>
>> On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 12:43:43 PM UTC-4 Todd G wrote:
>>
>>> Rack is still available. This is a pretty nice rack, I just don’t have 
>>> use for it right now. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 7:48:51 AM UTC-7 Graham McCall wrote:
>>>
 Emailed

 On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 11:03:22 PM UTC-5 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bump
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:53:29 PM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>
>> Rack is still available
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 10:00:17 AM UTC-7 Todd G wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I purchased this Salsa Casseroll canti front rack here about 2 weeks 
>>> ago, but have since decided to run a different front rack.
>>>
>>> Link to photos  - $80 
>>> shipped, or $65 picked up in Sacramento, CA
>>>
>>> Please feel free to reach out with any questions. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Airline travel case recommendation

[Pam Bikes]

I use a cardboard box in case I need to ditch it.  I sometimes carry  my 
packing materials.  Once I shuttled a guys luggage and bike box.  The box 
didn't seem great.  The keystone piece was like the pizza box plastic thing 
that kept the sides from collapsing.  I use the rigid foam block for my 
fork that came w/my bike from Riv.  Make sure your box has something like 
that.

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 12:24:36 PM UTC-4 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:

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> My airline travel case
>
> the bike would be a 52 cm.
>
> I would like a case that would accommodate both my dropbar and my touring 
> bike with albatross bars
>
>  
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>  
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>  
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> Bernard F. Duhon
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Hoch in ut
> *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2024 9:23 AM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch 
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Airline travel case recommendation
>
>  
>
> What bike/size? There are road bike/dropbar specific cases, ones for long 
> bike (aka new breed of Riv’s), etc. 
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 8:02:59 AM UTC-6 ber...@bernardduhon.com 
> wrote:
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
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>   
>
>  
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>  
>
> Gang,
>
> I'm looking for recommendations for airline travel case.
>
> Hardshell?
>
> Softshell?
>
> Model?
>
> Brand?
>
>  
>
> The case alone should weigh not too much above 20 pounds as my touring 
> bike with racks is pretty close to 30 pounds and I want to keep it under 
> the airline 50 pound weight limit.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Yours sincerely, 
>
>  
>
>
> Bernard F. Duhon
>
>  
>
>  
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Chris King and Nitto Parts

[Michael Ullmer]

Wheelset is now sold.

I have one more R-14 for sale if anyone is interested. Price is $90 plus 
shipping. Pics here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/XLZ6zY7hf4X7DKVm7

Thanks all!

On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 9:59:33 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> All that remains is the wheelset. Price drop to 325 and I'll split shipping
>
> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 1:05:41 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
>> Both king Headsets are now sold.
>>
>> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:53:09 AM UTC-5 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>>
>>> If I didn't have such a stock of parts, I'd be all about buying.  For 
>>> anyone on the fence, there are knock off Chris King 2-Nut conversion kits 
>>> available on eBay for 1" headsets.  Come to think of it, I might take a 
>>> look at whether the FSA Duron nuts would work when I get home. Hmmm.
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:36:11 AM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
 Offloading some nice King parts and a Nitto R14. Prices don't include 
 shipping.

 1) 1" Chris King Nothreadset - $75
 --Missing the King stem cap but will include a black 1" FSA cap. I also 
 have a 1" starnut I can include if you need it.

 2) Chris King 1 1/8" Headset Nothreadset Black - $90
 --All pieces included except starnut. 

 3) Nitto R-14 Rear Rack - $100
 --Nitto R14, all hardware included. This is the verison with the 
 tombstone, fits a Rivendell Sackville bag great!

 4) 26" Chris King 135/100 QR Wheelset. - $350
 --The front hub is a Disc Go Tech hub that can take a disc rotor, or 
 you can remove the adapter and just run it with a rim brake. I had these 
 for my older 26er Curtlo that had a disc suspension fork. The freehub 
 body on the rear is in great shape.
 Mavic X517 Grey Front Rim 32h Mavic X517 Silver Rear Rim 32h Silver 
 King Hubs front/rear 135/100 QR Pics here: 
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/myeQRHdx99VP7dit7

 PM off-list

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Pam Bikes]

I've taken my train on Amtrak.  The various regions operate differently.  
Always call when in doubt.  Their system is easier to tell what type of 
bike service is available.  I've been on the Empire Line, Northeast 
Regional, Crescent, Carolinian, Palmetto.  All in all, I've enjoyed it.  
Let me know if I can ever help answer any questions.  Last time I learned 
that if you have a bike reservation on the NE regional, look for the bike 
friendly sticker and those denote which cars have the bike hook.  Not all 
cars have them.

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 7:17:32 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thanks for the report Leah! I am taking my bike on Amtrak from Albany to 
> Buffalo later this summer. This will be my first time taking a bike on the 
> train. A friend and I will ride back on the Erie Canal trail. I had planned 
> to ride my Sam Hillborne but you have me thinking why not take the Platy? 
> Gives me something to thing about. 
>
> Tim
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 5:51:12 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Leah, your ride report and experiences are charging me up now for my ride 
>> today. My last few days have been out the door riding to work at 6am, home 
>> between 8:30-9pm. I am guilty of NOT having everything prepped, loaded and 
>> laid out this morning but I have a list I scrawled in  moments I snatched 
>> my attention away from the work at hand.
>>
>> I caught a vacant night at an Air b&B I really like in Ohiopyle, PA that 
>> coincides with a night that the restaurant nearby is open so I booked it. 
>> I'll ride to the GAP from home and 80 miles along the Youghiogheny River to 
>> the town in the state park for a relaxing evening. I've arrived in the town 
>> on "off nights" to this wonderful hiking, biking, fishing, climbing, 
>> whitewater rafting, canoeing and kayaking adventure town. 
>>
>> The biggest difference between my ride and Leah's will be the dearth of 
>> people on the way. It's Monday (riding back Tuesday) and the western heat 
>> dome is settling on us with mid to upper 90°s expected by noon. Except for 
>> oddly scheduled through-riders I don't think I'll see many others out on 
>> the trail. I have to pack with appreciationt of weather, safe water sources 
>> and several 20 mile stretches that are simply out in the woods, off 
>> road, along a nice river, where I will be solely responsible for food and 
>> drink, sustained function of my bicycle and all contingencies. 
>>
>> Coffee's gone, I have to pack and Ike the wonder dog wants to look around 
>> the neighborhood before I set out. Trying to get going super early to avoid 
>> the heat won't be much of an aid, it's going to get hot but that also 
>> stymies my classic lunch plan by rolling through that town too early. 
>> Cheers to plenty of safe water and Nuun tabs!
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 12:31:38 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, here’s the video. I’ll switch my IG to public for a few days because 
>>> that link is the only way I can get a long video to post here. 
>>>
>>> [image: 448492579_1159776728393867_8612724418179187346_n.jpg]
>>>  
>>> Leah Peterson on Instagram: "I did my first real bike tour this weekend. 
>>> I have dreamed of and longed to do exactly this. There are so many faers I 
>>> had to quell along the way. Never having taken Amtrak. Knowing my bike was 
>>> technically too long for their dimensions, unsure if they would send me 
>>> away. Showing up to a ride that spanned 3 states and not having anyone to 
>>> ride with. Leaving my post, as I call it, trusting that my family would be 
>>> fine. Leif, a kind man from the Rive List offered to let me join his group 
>>> of 6 welcoming and experienced cyclists. The leader, Jerry, completed his 
>>> 10th Le Tour de Shore this year. He had several fun side quests planned. As 
>>> in, “You can have PB&J at the SAG stop, OR you can come to the brewery with 
>>> us.” Yeah, I’m going to the brewery. Or, “There’s this one little place we 
>>> should stop for ice cream…” Or, “This is the scenic route out of Chicago…” 
>>> There were 2 married couples in the group. We were nearly all the same age. 
>>> They knew one another thr 
>>> 
>>> Watch and share reels with friends 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2024, at 3:00 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>>>
>>> Glad you had a great experience with this ride and that the Amtrak 
>>> logistics worked out.
>>>
>>> RE: "...Most people seemed into their own groups and I’m not sure I 
>>> could have just gotten in one on the fly...", yes, on these organized rides 
>>> you will find this will largely be the case.  Most of these people probably 
>>> come from some local club in the area so they stick tog

Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Leah Peterson]

Pam, I don’t even want a bike hook. I just want that bar outside the restroom forever and always! Tell me how to make THAT happen! Lol…On Jun 17, 2024, at 2:16 PM, Pam Bikes  wrote:I've taken my train on Amtrak.  The various regions operate differently.  Always call when in doubt.  Their system is easier to tell what type of bike service is available.  I've been on the Empire Line, Northeast Regional, Crescent, Carolinian, Palmetto.  All in all, I've enjoyed it.  Let me know if I can ever help answer any questions.  Last time I learned that if you have a bike reservation on the NE regional, look for the bike friendly sticker and those denote which cars have the bike hook.  Not all cars have them.On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 7:17:32 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:Thanks for the report Leah! I am taking my bike on Amtrak from Albany to Buffalo later this summer. This will be my first time taking a bike on the train. A friend and I will ride back on the Erie Canal trail. I had planned to ride my Sam Hillborne but you have me thinking why not take the Platy? Gives me something to thing about. TimOn Monday, June 17, 2024 at 5:51:12 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:Leah, your ride report and experiences are charging me up now for my ride today. My last few days have been out the door riding to work at 6am, home between 8:30-9pm. I am guilty of NOT having everything prepped, loaded and laid out this morning but I have a list I scrawled in  moments I snatched my attention away from the work at hand.I caught a vacant night at an Air b&B I really like in Ohiopyle, PA that coincides with a night that the restaurant nearby is open so I booked it. I'll ride to the GAP from home and 80 miles along the Youghiogheny River to the town in the state park for a relaxing evening. I've arrived in the town on "off nights" to this wonderful hiking, biking, fishing, climbing, whitewater rafting, canoeing and kayaking adventure town. The biggest difference between my ride and Leah's will be the dearth of people on the way. It's Monday (riding back Tuesday) and the western heat dome is settling on us with mid to upper 90°s expected by noon. Except for oddly scheduled through-riders I don't think I'll see many others out on the trail. I have to pack with appreciationt of weather, safe water sources and several 20 mile stretches that are simply out in the woods, off road, along a nice river, where I will be solely responsible for food and drink, sustained function of my bicycle and all contingencies. Coffee's gone, I have to pack and Ike the wonder dog wants to look around the neighborhood before I set out. Trying to get going super early to avoid the heat won't be much of an aid, it's going to get hot but that also stymies my classic lunch plan by rolling through that town too early. Cheers to plenty of safe water and Nuun tabs!Andy CheathamPittsburghOn Monday, June 17, 2024 at 12:31:38 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Ok, here’s the video. I’ll switch my IG to public for a few days because that link is the only way I can get a long video to post here. Leah Peterson on Instagram: "I did my first real bike tour this weekend. I have dreamed of and longed to do exactly this. There are so many faers I had to quell along the way. Never having taken Amtrak. Knowing my bike was technically too long for their dimensions, unsure if they would send me away. Showing up to a ride that spanned 3 states and not having anyone to ride with. Leaving my post, as I call it, trusting that my family would be fine.

Leif, a kind man from the Rive List offered to let me join his group of 6 welcoming and experienced cyclists. The leader, Jerry, completed his 10th Le Tour de Shore this year. He had several fun side quests planned. As in, “You can have PB&J at the SAG stop, OR you can come to the brewery with us.”

Yeah, I’m going to the brewery.

Or, “There’s this one little place we should stop for ice cream…” Or, “This is the scenic route out of Chicago…”

There were 2 married couples in the group. We were nearly all the same age. They knew one another thrWatch and share reels with friendsOn Jun 16, 2024, at 3:00 PM, George Schick  wrote:Glad you had a great experience with this ride and that the Amtrak logistics worked out.RE: "...Most people seemed into their own groups and I’m not sure I could have just gotten in one on the fly...", yes, on these organized rides you will find this will largely be the case.  Most of these people probably come from some local club in the area so they stick together accordingly.  Over the 50+ years of serious riding I've done I finally got to the point where I just ignored them and rode at my own pace.  Last organized ride I did, though, was probably '07 and I'm not sure I could to another one unless it was a single day event and limited to 100K.  But I've long since lost my enthusiasm for them and it's unlikely I'll ever ride another.Oh, and now that you've gotten the "bug" don't forget about that website conta

Re: [RBW] Re: Airline travel case recommendation

[eddietheflay]

If you can remove the fork then the Post Transfer Case is a good one. 

https://postcarry.co/products/transfer-case

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:08:01 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I use a cardboard box in case I need to ditch it.  I sometimes carry  my 
> packing materials.  Once I shuttled a guys luggage and bike box.  The box 
> didn't seem great.  The keystone piece was like the pizza box plastic thing 
> that kept the sides from collapsing.  I use the rigid foam block for my 
> fork that came w/my bike from Riv.  Make sure your box has something like 
> that.
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 12:24:36 PM UTC-4 ber...@bernardduhon.com 
> wrote:
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>> I would like a case that would accommodate both my dropbar and my touring 
>> bike with albatross bars
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>> Bernard F. Duhon
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>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  *On 
>> Behalf Of *Hoch in ut
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2024 9:23 AM
>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch 
>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Airline travel case recommendation
>>
>>  
>>
>> What bike/size? There are road bike/dropbar specific cases, ones for long 
>> bike (aka new breed of Riv’s), etc. 
>>
>> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 8:02:59 AM UTC-6 ber...@bernardduhon.com 
>> wrote:
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>> I'm looking for recommendations for airline travel case.
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>> Hardshell?
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>> Softshell?
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>> Model?
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>> Brand?
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>> The case alone should weigh not too much above 20 pounds as my touring 
>> bike with racks is pretty close to 30 pounds and I want to keep it under 
>> the airline 50 pound weight limit.
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>> Yours sincerely, 
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>> Bernard F. Duhon
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[RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

[tio ryan]

Here's my helmet origin story, if anybody cares:

I got doored in July of 2011 (so I was told, no memory of the crash) and 
spent 2 nights in the hospital. While recovering at home, I realized my 
taste was altered and I no longer had *any* sense of smell. I saw 
a neurologist, got a MRI, and was told this condition is called "anosmia" 
and there was no treatment for it. However, it was possible my sense of 
smell could someday return on its own. You might think that experience 
would've scared me straight and I'd be a helmet-no-matter-what type of 
rider, but alas. I did purchase my "dream" helmet after that crash, a 
Catlike Compact, but I mostly wore it on my commutes to and from work. I 
never wore a helmet when I was riding around for fun or going somewhere 
other than the office — and I ride around nyc on a daily basis. 

12 years later (still without a sense of smell) I had an eerily similar 
situation where I was riding my bike and regained consciousness in the back 
of an ambulance, confused what led me there. Once again, I was without a 
helmet. I hit my head pretty good this time too, requiring stitches in my 
forehead, as well as a fractured rib (ouch). I unfortunately did not regain 
my sense of smell, but I felt lucky to survive another TBI. Since then, 
I've purchased a few different helmets and I don't ride my bike without one 
on my head, plus quality lights & reflective gear at night. 

-tio "life without a sense of smell is pretty bleak" ryan

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:24:22 AM UTC-4 Max S wrote:

> Very nicely put, Mathias. I can relate my experiences with riding on city 
> streets, mountain biking, gravel riding, racing in crits, crashing in 
> various ways, *etc.*, but it's all borderline article-of-faith stuff, 
> anyway. While I used to wear a helmet on rides religiously between ages 15 
> and 30, at some point I started to get massive headaches after just a half 
> hour of doing so. I've tried many different shapes and brands, some costing 
> upward of $250, same thing. So, for the past 15+ years, I've taken to 
> riding mainly dirt roads and stopped wearing a helmet. My speed and 
> position haven't changed. I've noticed two main things:  1) I don't get 
> headaches from riding, and 2) more drivers give me greater courtesy / 
> respect than before. 
>
> - Max "living on the edge" in A2 
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 8:41:41 AM UTC-4 Mathias Steiner wrote:
>
>> The logic here is sound. Wear a helmet all the time.
>>
>> The issue is that the same logic applies to wearing a helmet while 
>> driving. Most head injuries occur in car accidents. And then there's the 
>> home, slip & falls etc. A biking buddy of mine slipped on ice and hit his 
>> head, had to go to the hospital for a few days. No he wasn't wearing a 
>> helmet. Wasn't cycling either. So what am I supposed to do, put on a helmet 
>> when I get up in the morning? 
>>
>> I mix and match, and always wear it on group rides, which were the only 
>> occasions I've crashed over the years. 
>> To make matters more complicated, I seem to get more respect from, ah, 
>> rural traffic when I'm wearing a ball cap. Strictly anecdotal, of course. 
>>
>> cheers -m
>>
>> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 12:28:40 AM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:
>>
>>> *TBI sorry all
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:46:27 PM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:
>>>
 I had a TBA as a result of a bike crash a number of years ago, and was 
 wearing a helmet. Had I not been, I'd be dead. So, I wear a helmet every 
 time. 

 On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 9:59:40 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:

> $0.02: If I get hit, I want my appearance to reflect that I ride to be 
> safe and seen, not that I was being reckless or at the wrong place at the 
> wrong time. The optics unfortunately matter despite the psychology 
> backing 
> up riding helmetless. All those who invented/coinvented the mountain bike 
> and have a mustache get the green light though IMO.  
> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 4:45:37 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> Purple potato indeed!
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/food/article/2024/jun/16/gordon-ramsay-lucky-to-be-here-after-us-bike-crash
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Bags, Saddles, Parts, Handlebars, Wheelset

[R Olson]

Choco-moose bars and swift half frame bag are sold.

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:00:44 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:

> The Tektro R559 brakes, TRP levers, and Brook C17 saddle are gone.
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 7:12:40 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>
>> A few more items are sold.  Here's an updated list of what's available 
>> with a few updated prices. 
>>
>> Brooks Cambium C17 Carved All Weather Saddle, Black, $80 shipped
>>
>> Stella Anatomica saddle, $60 shipped
>>
>> Swift pink half frame bag, Large, 20.25 inches long,  I think I used this 
>> for a month, it’s basically new $80 shipped
>>
>> Ortlieb rolltop rear panniers, grey, again, barely used, great condition 
>> $120 shipped
>>
>> Swift every day caddy, teal, never used, $35 shipped.
>>
>> Ritchey handlebar, 44cm wide, $50 shipped
>>
>> Silver 184mm crank with bolts and two rings, $100 shipped (this is from 
>> my flirtation with longer cranks; if your curious, it’s no big deal, maybe 
>> slightly better climbing, but these are in great condition – I probably 
>> have a third ring or the chain protector thing if you want).
>>
>> Nitto dirt drop stem, 100mm, $40 shipped
>>
>> Shimano Sora 9spd brake/shift levers, $40 shipped for the pair
>>
>> Shimano BR-R451 Mid Reach Caliper Brake, silver, $25 shipped
>>
>> Charge spoon saddle, black, just pay for shipping to wherever you are
>>
>> Velo-Orange Grand Cru long setback two bolt seatpost, 27.2 diameter x 300 
>> mm long, $40 shipped
>>
>> Sugino 175mm double crank with rings and bolts, $40 shipped
>>
>> Nitto Albatross handlebar, $70 shipped
>>
>> Nitto Choco-moose handlebar, $160 shipped
>>
>> Velo Orange Nouveau Randonneur Handlebars -  46cm x 31.8 Bar Clamp 
>> (Black), $45 shipped
>>
>> Wheelset:  Velocity A23, black, with Shimano RS-400 hubs, 1330mm rear 
>> spacing, 36 F/R, 9 spd cassette, hand built by Black Mountain Cycles, with 
>> 38mm Panaracer gravelking slicks with plenty of tread left, these probably 
>> have less than 100 miles on them  $210 shipped
>>
>> I also have some black Tektro TRP brake levers that I'll sell for $30 
>> shipped.
>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 10:15:36 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>>
>>> The Zeitgeist bag ans Surly rack are gone. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 2:25:27 PM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>>>
 Forgot to mention that the A23’s are 130mm rear spacing.

 Silver shifters, monarchs and Shimano road brakes levers are gone. 

 Btw, if you want to buy a few things, I’ll discount the price a bit if 
 I’m able to ship multiple items in one shipment.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 15, 2024, at 2:06 PM, R Olson  wrote:

 

 Hi All,

 I have some more items for sale from my much too large collection of 
 bike stuff.  List is in order as shown in the album linked below.  Prices 
 incldue shipping to the lower 48.

  

 https://photos.app.goo.gl/qUbJeSZpPWs9sJjx5

  

 Brooks Cambium C17 Carved All Weather Saddle, Black, $80 shipped

 Stella Anatomica saddle, $60 shipped

 Swift Zeitgeist bag - Coyote brown, comes with the handlebar mounting 
 kit, $120 shipped

 Swift pink half frame bag, Large, 20.25 inches long,  I think I used 
 this for a month, it’s basically new $80 shipped

 Ortlieb rolltop rear panniers, grey, again, barely used, great 
 condition $120 shipped

 Swift every day caddy, teal, never used, $35 shipped.

 Ritchey handlebar, 44cm wide, $50 shipped

 Sugino 172.5mm double crank with bolts and rings, $40 shipped

 Silver 184mm crank with bolts and two rings, $100 shipped (this is from 
 my flirtation with longer cranks; if your curious, it’s no big deal, maybe 
 slightly better climbing, but these are in great condition – I probably 
 have a third ring or the chain protector thing if you want).

 Nitto dirt drop stem, 100mm, $40 shipped

 Shimano road brake levers, just pay for shipping to wherever you are

 Shimano Sora 9spd brake/shift levers, $40 shipped for the pair

 Shimano BR-R451 Mid Reach Caliper Brake, silver, $25 shipped

 Charge spoon saddle, black, just pay for shipping to wherever you are

 Velo-Orange Grand Cru long setback two bolt seatpost, 27.2 diameter x 
 300 mm long, $40 shipped 

 Surly 8-pack front rack, $55 shipped

 Shimano BL-R3000 Sora Flat Bar Road Brake Levers, black, pay for 
 shipping (ideal with the Tektro brakes if you want both)

 Tektro R559 brakes, black, $40 shipped

 Sugino 175mm double crank with rings and bolts, $40 shipped

 Silver 1 shifters with bar end pods, $20 shipped

 Monarch pedals, silver, $50 shipped

 Nitto Albatross handlebar, $70 shipped

 Nitto Choco-moose handlebar, $180 shipped

 Velo Orange Nouveau Randonneur Handlebars -  46cm x 31.8 Bar Clamp 
 (Black), $45 shipped
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[aeroperf]

Now that you’re hooked, note that there is a Google group for Bicycle 
Touring.
Here’s one of mine: 
 https://groups.google.com/g/bicycletouring/c/cFpcvUWqzkA
I live near Atlanta, as does Rich S, so come ride our trail some time. 
 Amtrak goes to Atlanta, and we’d love to see Peppermint Platy on the Comet.

Then, if you’re looking for something a little farther afield, try this: 
https://groups.google.com/g/bicycletouring/c/j4AOeY-B-XM

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[RBW] Re: Now officially a member

[Mathias Steiner]

Welcome indeed.
You MUST be new here -- where are the pictures??

Also congratulations on New Bike Day. You added to your quiver, all good.

But where does this "bike to sell" idea come from..? 
N+1

cheers -mathias


On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 7:18:57 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> Welcome T!!
> Happy Rolling
> -Kai
>
> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:46:26 AM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Picked up my Platypus today at Mack's Bike and Goods here in Evanston, 
>> IL. Rode my old bike there, and left it at the shop (maybe forever?). Put 
>> 30 miles on the tires, and almost 2 hours of smiles on my face. 
>>
>> Team at Riv (James in this instance) were supportive in the shopping 
>> phase. 
>>
>> All good. Now I've an old bike to sell.
>>
>> T
>>
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[RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

[Edwin W]

The current advice (from doctors and public health types) seems to be 
binary: always wear a helmet when biking, never wear a helmet when walking 
or driving. That seems to be missing some nuance!

I would tweak it to say: consider a helmet when skiing fast, biking on 
single track, or biking very fast in a tight pack with friends. But then 
what about walking and driving (when most American TBIs happen)? Never? Not 
even in the most dangerous conditions: night time, snowy, icy or wet roads? 
Walking on ice or snow? No, it is quite safe, though when bad things 
happen, it is bad.

Edwin

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 3:28:33 PM UTC-5 tio ryan wrote:

> Here's my helmet origin story, if anybody cares:
>
> I got doored in July of 2011 (so I was told, no memory of the crash) and 
> spent 2 nights in the hospital. While recovering at home, I realized my 
> taste was altered and I no longer had *any* sense of smell. I saw 
> a neurologist, got a MRI, and was told this condition is called "anosmia" 
> and there was no treatment for it. However, it was possible my sense of 
> smell could someday return on its own. You might think that experience 
> would've scared me straight and I'd be a helmet-no-matter-what type of 
> rider, but alas. I did purchase my "dream" helmet after that crash, a 
> Catlike Compact, but I mostly wore it on my commutes to and from work. I 
> never wore a helmet when I was riding around for fun or going somewhere 
> other than the office — and I ride around nyc on a daily basis. 
>
> 12 years later (still without a sense of smell) I had an eerily similar 
> situation where I was riding my bike and regained consciousness in the back 
> of an ambulance, confused what led me there. Once again, I was without a 
> helmet. I hit my head pretty good this time too, requiring stitches in my 
> forehead, as well as a fractured rib (ouch). I unfortunately did not regain 
> my sense of smell, but I felt lucky to survive another TBI. Since then, 
> I've purchased a few different helmets and I don't ride my bike without one 
> on my head, plus quality lights & reflective gear at night. 
>
> -tio "life without a sense of smell is pretty bleak" ryan
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:24:22 AM UTC-4 Max S wrote:
>
>> Very nicely put, Mathias. I can relate my experiences with riding on city 
>> streets, mountain biking, gravel riding, racing in crits, crashing in 
>> various ways, *etc.*, but it's all borderline article-of-faith stuff, 
>> anyway. While I used to wear a helmet on rides religiously between ages 15 
>> and 30, at some point I started to get massive headaches after just a half 
>> hour of doing so. I've tried many different shapes and brands, some costing 
>> upward of $250, same thing. So, for the past 15+ years, I've taken to 
>> riding mainly dirt roads and stopped wearing a helmet. My speed and 
>> position haven't changed. I've noticed two main things:  1) I don't get 
>> headaches from riding, and 2) more drivers give me greater courtesy / 
>> respect than before. 
>>
>> - Max "living on the edge" in A2 
>>
>> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 8:41:41 AM UTC-4 Mathias Steiner wrote:
>>
>>> The logic here is sound. Wear a helmet all the time.
>>>
>>> The issue is that the same logic applies to wearing a helmet while 
>>> driving. Most head injuries occur in car accidents. And then there's the 
>>> home, slip & falls etc. A biking buddy of mine slipped on ice and hit his 
>>> head, had to go to the hospital for a few days. No he wasn't wearing a 
>>> helmet. Wasn't cycling either. So what am I supposed to do, put on a helmet 
>>> when I get up in the morning? 
>>>
>>> I mix and match, and always wear it on group rides, which were the only 
>>> occasions I've crashed over the years. 
>>> To make matters more complicated, I seem to get more respect from, ah, 
>>> rural traffic when I'm wearing a ball cap. Strictly anecdotal, of course. 
>>>
>>> cheers -m
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 12:28:40 AM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:
>>>
 *TBI sorry all

 On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:46:27 PM UTC-4 Nick A. wrote:

> I had a TBA as a result of a bike crash a number of years ago, and was 
> wearing a helmet. Had I not been, I'd be dead. So, I wear a helmet every 
> time. 
>
> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 9:59:40 PM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> $0.02: If I get hit, I want my appearance to reflect that I ride to 
>> be safe and seen, not that I was being reckless or at the wrong place at 
>> the wrong time. The optics unfortunately matter despite the psychology 
>> backing up riding helmetless. All those who invented/coinvented the 
>> mountain bike and have a mustache get the green light though IMO.  
>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 4:45:37 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>>> Purple potato indeed!
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/food/article/2024/jun/16/gordon-ramsay-lucky-to-be-here-after-us-bike-crash
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: 55 cm Platypus on Amtrak

[Pam Bikes]

If anyone is ready to book something before 6/20, here's the link to the 
Amtrak Northeast Summer sale.  
https://www.amtrak.com/promotions/northeast-summer-sale.html?cmp=eml-30250967-Jun2024-JuneInsideTrackNewsletter-bodylink2-AGR
On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 5:15:55 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:

> Now that you’re hooked, note that there is a Google group for Bicycle 
> Touring.
> Here’s one of mine:  
> https://groups.google.com/g/bicycletouring/c/cFpcvUWqzkA
> I live near Atlanta, as does Rich S, so come ride our trail some time. 
>  Amtrak goes to Atlanta, and we’d love to see Peppermint Platy on the Comet.
>
> Then, if you’re looking for something a little farther afield, try this: 
> https://groups.google.com/g/bicycletouring/c/j4AOeY-B-XM
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 54 Roadini in Sergio Green

[Doug H.]

My apologies, the color is Mermaid, NOT Sergio Green
Doug

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 11:13:35 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> This was a recent acquisition but I've decided to move on from it. Here 
> are the details:
>
> Rivendell Roadini 54 Sergio Green
>
> ·Velocity Dyad 36 spoke wheelset with Shimano 105 hubs 700c
>
> ·Velo Orange Crankset 175mm 48/34 chain rings
>
> ·Shimano XT 9 speed cassette
>
> ·Microshift front and rear derailleurs
>
> ·Shimano Dura Ace bar-end shifters
>
> ·Albatross HT handlebars
>
> ·Nitto 12cm stem
>
> ·Tektro long reach brake calipers with Shimano XT brake levers
>
> ·Kalloy seat post
>
> ·Berthoud leather saddle
>
> ·VO platform pedals
>
> ·VO Moderniste bottle cage
>
> ·SOMA Shikoro tires 38mm
>
> Frameset is in excellent condition with no dings or dents. I’m willing to 
> ship and share cost within reason. For size reference, I am 5’10” with an 
> 83 PBH and this size 54 fits great. For drop bars I would use a 5cm stem. 
> The photos show it with a dynamo setup which I plan to keep but if you'd 
> like it then we can talk price. $2,000 plus shipping (will share shipping 
> cost) I have nothing negative to say about the Roadini and its superb ride 
> quality. Circumstances can change quickly and a sale is needed.
>
> Roadini 
>
> [image: IMG_1185.JPEG]
>
> Doug
>

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[RBW] FS: Roadini 54 in Mermaid

[Doug H.]

[image: Doug H.'s profile photo]
This was a recent acquisition but I've decided to move on from it. Here are 
the details:

Rivendell Roadini 54 Mermaid

·Velocity Dyad 36 spoke wheelset with Shimano 105 hubs 700c

·Velo Orange Crankset 175mm 48/34 chain rings

·Shimano XT 9 speed cassette

·Microshift front and rear derailleurs

·Shimano Dura Ace bar-end shifters

·Albatross HT handlebars

·Nitto 12cm stem

·Tektro long reach brake calipers with Shimano XT brake levers

·Kalloy seat post

·Berthoud leather saddle

·VO platform pedals

·VO Moderniste bottle cage

·SOMA Shikoro tires 38mm

Frameset is in excellent condition with no dings or dents. I’m willing to 
ship and share cost within reason. For size reference, I am 5’10” with an 
83 PBH and this size 54 fits great. For drop bars I would use a 5cm stem. 
The photos show it with a dynamo setup which I plan to keep but if you'd 
like it then we can talk price. $2,000 plus shipping (will share shipping 
cost) I have nothing negative to say about the Roadini and its superb ride 
quality. Circumstances can change quickly and a sale is needed.

Roadini Photos 

[image: IMG_1185.JPEG]

Doug

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[RBW] Re: FS: Vintage wheelset - 100/120mm - Phil Wood/Super Champion/Suntour

[Kim H.]

The wheelset sale is pending. 

Kim Hetzel.

On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 9:28:19 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> I have up for sale a vintage wheel set from my old road bike from the 
> early 70s'.
>
> The wheel set build consist of the following:
>
> Hubs- Phil Wood 1st generation 36-hole - 100/120mm
> Rims - Super Champion 36-hole with presta value holes
> Freewheel - NOS Suntour 13-34T Pro Compe Ultra 6
> Tires - IRC Tandem 700x30C PSI 100 - sidewalls are showing their threads
> Quick Release axles skewers - Campagnolo Nuovo Record
>  
> Overall Condition - Very good with modest wear. The Phil Wood hub axles 
> run smooth without any imperfections.
>
> The wheelset - $250.00
>
> I have two extra rims and white Bleummel fenders:
> 1) one Super Champion 36-hole rim - used - $40.00
> 2) one Wolber 58- 36-hole rim - NOS - $50.00
> 3) 700C Bleummel white fenders with hardware - one pair used - single rear 
> - NOS - $60.00
>
> Pictures links are : https://photos.app.goo.gl/83VMhH1cFhpe46bj8
>   
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZJDFXSp1bdUwCxAk6
>
> If you think my pricing is off, shoot me an offer(s). 
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> Buy everything for $400.00 (total of listed amounts) and I'll ship them 
> for no charge.
> Otherwise, prices do not include shipping costs. These will be calculated 
> to the exact amount prior to shipping through my local post office.
> Shipping in CONUS.
> Paypal payment, please.
>
> Kim Hetzel
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Some random bike thoughts...

[DavidP]

Echoing Pam on the appreciation of the bikes and the Muddy Onion report. 
Makes me want to come up to Montpelier next April with my Platypus!

-Dave

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 7:14:59 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Beautiful bikes!  I get that type of talk all the time.  Whatever.  
> Doesn't bother me.  I enjoy riding my bike way too much for anyone to 
> tarnish my ride.  Talk about a heavy bike.  I usually ride fully loaded all 
> the time.  I like to be prepared and sometimes bring stuff home.  Definite 
> win for your friend on the steel bike.  Keep riding and having fun.  Ignore 
> the haters.  I think they're just jealous.[image: IMG_7341.JPG]
>
> On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 10:15:29 PM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:
>
>> And every spring we do the Muddy Onion gravel *eye roll* ride in 
>> Montpelier VT. 
>>
>> This year I did it on my Clem and a guy at the start asked "How far are 
>> you planning on riding *that thing*" and I said, "The 40 mile ride? Like 
>> last year" I was rubbed very wrong and it made me feel shitty. The route 
>> this year came right out of the gate into a multi-mile hill and near the 
>> crest some riders dismounted and I was directly behind and couldn't 
>> maneuver around, so I hopped off and went on foot to the top and he passed 
>> me and said, "this is why I asked how far you are going on *that bike*" and 
>> I looked at him and then attempted to justify my actions (first time on 
>> bike since last year, people got off, etc.) when I should have just kicked 
>> him over. I'm middle aged. I've been riding weirdo heavy bikes for 20+yrs, 
>> 5 of them on a 3 speed Surly CC... in NH. and I had to explain myself. Man 
>> that grinds my gears. 
>>
>> Anyway we did the 40 miles no problemo and picked up a few stragglers 
>> that were left behind by their group and the more the merrier. The ringing 
>> of bells helped. My B67 tore me to pieces, I don't know why. I've never had 
>> a problem with it and now it's too wide...? Speaking of saddles I got the 
>> new Riv saddle for my wife and her Platypus and it's really good. So good 
>> I'm going to order one for me too. That good. But I'm seriously confused 
>> about my 67. Chafe city.
>>
>> Sometimes there are other Rivs at this ride.
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240427_204138629.jpg]
>>
>> [image: Screenshot_20240615-220406~2.png]
>>
>> I guess I miss the energy when I was in my 20's and we would call around 
>> and put together a ragtag group and ride the northern Adirondacks looking 
>> for cheap Genny Cream Ale that we would buy with quarters, and find a dumb 
>> stupid hill to grind up, talk revolution and ride home in the balmy 
>> twilight of the North Country summer. Now I want to go for a ride and 
>> everyone has a computer, and their cassettes are effin LOUD in coast mode 
>> and the thing Are Very Serious and I'm just on my weirdo steel bike and *it 
>> feels like a chore.* I hate that. I don't know how to fix it. I don't 
>> even want to get groceries on my bike anymore because it's all Very Big 
>> PickUp Trucks and poor infrastructure and crappy driving and I'm like, "why 
>> risk big time injury for this" and I feel like I'm betraying myself and the 
>> planet.
>>
>> I did buy a 61cm Ram (coveted purchase, I wanted one ever since I saw the 
>> catalogue with it) and between the Ram and the Clem my Cheviot hasn't moved 
>> in 2 years. I feel bad. I could go up a size on the Ram. Maybe I'll start 
>> looking. Super bike. Almost exactly dimensioned like my old Surly CC but 
>> with slighly longer stays and slightly less sweep in the fork. Identical 
>> wheelbase length. Fascinating. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20220730_215407229.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 10:15:10 PM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:
>>
>>> ...of no interest to anyone really. 
>>> It's been a while since I've posted here. The Passion For The Bike has 
>>> somewhat dropped more than I expected. I don't know why, but supersize 
>>> pickup trucks are definitely part of the equation, coupled with complete 
>>> apathy to diversify our transportation options in this city, state, 
>>> country. Also, I've been missing my group of homies to ride around with. 
>>> Everyone is serious. 
>>>
>>> A few years ago one of my friends said he wanted to ride bikes more like 
>>> me. And he wanted to be comfortable. And he wanted a real bike. He is an 
>>> enormously talented handyeveryman and he specifically came to me about 
>>> bikes because I think he knew what he was looking at in my garage. He 
>>> doesn't have a lot of money and he was somewhat out of shape, and was 
>>> definitely worried about saddles, so I told him to buy a Brooks B67 FIRST 
>>> and then buy a steel bike. He found a bike at the dump, or it was going to 
>>> the dump and he swooped in, I forget, and he built the thing back up with 
>>> rando parts. I think it's an early REI mountain bike. It's a size too small 
>>> for him, but we made it fit with a Nitto stem. He loves his Makita tools, 
>>> so he painted it

Re: [RBW] Re: Now officially a member

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Ted! A new Platypus! And you must be in the Chicago area if you went to 
Mack’s! I am planning an upcoming Lakeshore Trail ride (to be posted later 
tonight) for two weekends from now. I would love to meet you and admire 
each other’s Platys.
Leah

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 5:36:02 PM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: image0.jpeg]
> Still needs some racks and other changes, but here she is.
>
> Thinking of having some 44 slicks on for when I’m on the road (opinions 
> welcome). And possibly swapping the Shimano dyno hub and the light with the 
> SON and Edelux I have on my other bike. 
>
> Will likely never be done with accessorizing. Considering Pass and Stow 
> rack instead of the Nitto. And unsure of direction with fenders. 
>
> Relative to the N+1 crowd, heard. Small garage and a mental focus on 
> minimizing the “stuff” I don’t use…I may sell the old bike. It may become 
> something else. Will see….
>
> Ted
>
> On Jun 17, 2024, at 4:17 PM, Mathias Steiner  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome indeed.
> You MUST be new here -- where are the pictures??
>
> Also congratulations on New Bike Day. You added to your quiver, all good.
>
> But where does this "bike to sell" idea come from..? 
> N+1
>
> cheers -mathias
>
>
> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 7:18:57 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> Welcome T!!
>> Happy Rolling
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:46:26 AM UTC-4 ted...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Picked up my Platypus today at Mack's Bike and Goods here in Evanston, 
>>> IL. Rode my old bike there, and left it at the shop (maybe forever?). Put 
>>> 30 miles on the tires, and almost 2 hours of smiles on my face. 
>>>
>>> Team at Riv (James in this instance) were supportive in the shopping 
>>> phase. 
>>>
>>> All good. Now I've an old bike to sell.
>>>
>>> T
>>>
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[RBW] Riv Ride: Lakeshore Trail, Chicago, June 29

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Friends,

People have been asking when we’re next gathering for another Riv Ride, and 
summer is flying by. How about we squeeze in a ride on June 29th in Chicago 
for a group ride on the Lakeshore Trail? We did do a Riv Ride last year 
beginning in Evanston, but there is (so I hear) another 15 miles of gorgous 
trail we did not ride yet.

Place: Chicago Lakeshore Trail, meeting spot to be announced later
Date: Saturday, June 29
Time: 10:00 am
Please let me know if you plan to come so we get an idea of a headcount.

Thanks,
Leah and Marc

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Re: [RBW] FS: Bags, Saddles, Parts, Handlebars, Wheelset

[R Olson]

Thanks, everyone for the interest in these items.  Here's an updated list 
of what's still available:

Ortlieb rolltop rear panniers, grey, again, barely used, great condition 
$120 shipped

Ritchey handlebar, 44cm wide, $50 shipped

Silver 184mm crank with bolts and two rings, $100 shipped 

Nitto dirt drop stem, 25.4mm clamp 100mm, $40 shipped

Shimano Sora 9spd brake/shift levers, $40 shipped for the pair

Shimano BR-R451 Mid Reach Caliper Brake, silver, $25 shipped

Velo-Orange Grand Cru long setback two bolt seatpost, 27.2 diameter x 300 
mm long, $40 shipped

Sugino 175mm double crank with rings and bolts, $40 shipped

Velo Orange Nouveau Randonneur Handlebars -  46cm x 31.8 Bar Clamp (Black), 
$45 shipped

Wheelset:  Velocity A23, black, with Shimano RS-400 hubs, 130mm rear 
spacing, 36 F/R, 9 spd cassette, hand built by Black Mountain Cycles, with 
38mm Panaracer gravelking slicks with plenty of tread left, these probably 
have less than 100 miles on them  $210 shipped

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 2:56:06 PM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:

> Choco-moose bars and swift half frame bag are sold.
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 10:00:44 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>
>> The Tektro R559 brakes, TRP levers, and Brook C17 saddle are gone.
>>
>> On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 7:12:40 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>>
>>> A few more items are sold.  Here's an updated list of what's available 
>>> with a few updated prices. 
>>>
>>> Brooks Cambium C17 Carved All Weather Saddle, Black, $80 shipped
>>>
>>> Stella Anatomica saddle, $60 shipped
>>>
>>> Swift pink half frame bag, Large, 20.25 inches long,  I think I used 
>>> this for a month, it’s basically new $80 shipped
>>>
>>> Ortlieb rolltop rear panniers, grey, again, barely used, great condition 
>>> $120 shipped
>>>
>>> Swift every day caddy, teal, never used, $35 shipped.
>>>
>>> Ritchey handlebar, 44cm wide, $50 shipped
>>>
>>> Silver 184mm crank with bolts and two rings, $100 shipped (this is from 
>>> my flirtation with longer cranks; if your curious, it’s no big deal, maybe 
>>> slightly better climbing, but these are in great condition – I probably 
>>> have a third ring or the chain protector thing if you want).
>>>
>>> Nitto dirt drop stem, 100mm, $40 shipped
>>>
>>> Shimano Sora 9spd brake/shift levers, $40 shipped for the pair
>>>
>>> Shimano BR-R451 Mid Reach Caliper Brake, silver, $25 shipped
>>>
>>> Charge spoon saddle, black, just pay for shipping to wherever you are
>>>
>>> Velo-Orange Grand Cru long setback two bolt seatpost, 27.2 diameter x 
>>> 300 mm long, $40 shipped
>>>
>>> Sugino 175mm double crank with rings and bolts, $40 shipped
>>>
>>> Nitto Albatross handlebar, $70 shipped
>>>
>>> Nitto Choco-moose handlebar, $160 shipped
>>>
>>> Velo Orange Nouveau Randonneur Handlebars -  46cm x 31.8 Bar Clamp 
>>> (Black), $45 shipped
>>>
>>> Wheelset:  Velocity A23, black, with Shimano RS-400 hubs, 1330mm rear 
>>> spacing, 36 F/R, 9 spd cassette, hand built by Black Mountain Cycles, with 
>>> 38mm Panaracer gravelking slicks with plenty of tread left, these probably 
>>> have less than 100 miles on them  $210 shipped
>>>
>>> I also have some black Tektro TRP brake levers that I'll sell for $30 
>>> shipped.
>>> On Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 10:15:36 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>>>
 The Zeitgeist bag ans Surly rack are gone. 

 On Saturday, June 15, 2024 at 2:25:27 PM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:

> Forgot to mention that the A23’s are 130mm rear spacing.
>
> Silver shifters, monarchs and Shimano road brakes levers are gone. 
>
> Btw, if you want to buy a few things, I’ll discount the price a bit if 
> I’m able to ship multiple items in one shipment.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 15, 2024, at 2:06 PM, R Olson  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have some more items for sale from my much too large collection of 
> bike stuff.  List is in order as shown in the album linked below.  Prices 
> incldue shipping to the lower 48.
>
>  
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/qUbJeSZpPWs9sJjx5
>
>  
>
> Brooks Cambium C17 Carved All Weather Saddle, Black, $80 shipped
>
> Stella Anatomica saddle, $60 shipped
>
> Swift Zeitgeist bag - Coyote brown, comes with the handlebar mounting 
> kit, $120 shipped
>
> Swift pink half frame bag, Large, 20.25 inches long,  I think I used 
> this for a month, it’s basically new $80 shipped
>
> Ortlieb rolltop rear panniers, grey, again, barely used, great 
> condition $120 shipped
>
> Swift every day caddy, teal, never used, $35 shipped.
>
> Ritchey handlebar, 44cm wide, $50 shipped
>
> Sugino 172.5mm double crank with bolts and rings, $40 shipped
>
> Silver 184mm crank with bolts and two rings, $100 shipped (this is 
> from my flirtation with longer cranks; if your curious, it’s no big deal, 
> maybe slightly better climbing, but these are in great condit

[RBW] Re: Repaired Susie and Intro post

[R. Alexis]

Was wondering what happened to this frame. The original poster never 
replied that I saw when I inquired about it way later. Your repair looks 
good. Nice to see it rolling. Should get some Protovelo decals from 
Rivendell and then paint it. There is that bike paint that Old Shovel 
uses, https://spraybike.us/ that may work. Strip down or partial strip then 
paint leaving the areas that have good paint still. Don't know if that 
would work. 

Reginald Alexis



On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 10:34:08 AM UTC-5 James ODonnell wrote:

> [image: 1 built.jpg]
> Introducing myself and my Susie W L that I picked up in the following 
> state from a list member (original thread 
> 
> ).
> [image: 2 brokenframe.jpeg]
>
> After aligning the fork and rear triangle, I did some practice brazes, 
> hand mitered some tubes, chucked it all in a basic fixture and did my best 
> to match the original geometry based on a chart Will @ Rivendell kindly 
> shared with me. To my surprise I managed to produce a frame that rides 
> straight and has held up to almost a year of riding. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus = Appaloosa/Atlantis?

[esoterica etc]

Thanks to everyone that's chimed in so far. 

Hoch, thanks for muddying the waters even more now! And the fact that the 
Platypus can fit larger tires than the Homer and Sam could definitely be a 
reason for its association with the Atlantis/Appaloosa.

Dave, good point about how the build can really determine the temperament 
of the bike. And Eben's post was a good read, thanks for the link.

Michael, thank you for the link to the Blue Lug video, had not seen that 
before. It was really great to see the three of them discuss all the Riv 
models and chart them accordingly. Super helpful.

If anyone has any first-hand comparisons, would love to hear about them.

Cheers,

~Mark
Kailua, HI

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 6:09:45 AM UTC-10 Michael Connors wrote:

>
> Blue Lug did a discussion on youtube. Watch the Appaloosa and Platypus 
> segments
> https://youtu.be/Yx83uMhIgKA?t=3179
>

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