[RBW] Clem report: most free ever

[Franco Rinaldi]

I’m about a month into my Clem ownership. It’s the most free and fun I’ve ever 
felt on a bike. Makes me not mind riding slow and soft pedaling. Can’t wait to 
do an over nighter with it.

Franco Rinaldi 
c:  646.403.0661 

-Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message-

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[RBW] Re: Cliffhanger Squeal

[Bill Lindsay]

For me, the answer was Kool Stop Black. For me, always try salmon first, 
but don't be scared to try something else next.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 7:29:25 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

> Good evening,
>
> I seem to remember some discussion from a while back about how Cliffhanger 
> rims don't seem to play well with KoolStop salmon pads. It seems the dual 
> compound pads are preferred. Am I remembering this correctly?
>
> I've got a wheel set of Cliffhanger rims with un-machined sidewalls the 
> run between some Avid v-brakes with salmon pads. Despite clean rims and a 
> proper toe-in - perhaps too generous - the rims will often squeal like 
> banshees.
>
> Any thoughts on how the banshees might be vanquished (silver bullet? stake 
> through the heart? Avada Kedavra?) would be appreciated.
>
> I use the KoolStop smooth-post salmon pads with my Paul Neo-retros on my 
> Atlantis without issue, but these are with Dyad un-machined rims.
>
> Cheers, John
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[RBW] Cliffhanger Squeal

[John Rinker]

Good evening,

I seem to remember some discussion from a while back about how Cliffhanger 
rims don't seem to play well with KoolStop salmon pads. It seems the dual 
compound pads are preferred. Am I remembering this correctly?

I've got a wheel set of Cliffhanger rims with un-machined sidewalls the run 
between some Avid v-brakes with salmon pads. Despite clean rims and a 
proper toe-in - perhaps too generous - the rims will often squeal like 
banshees.

Any thoughts on how the banshees might be vanquished (silver bullet? stake 
through the heart? Avada Kedavra?) would be appreciated.

I use the KoolStop smooth-post salmon pads with my Paul Neo-retros on my 
Atlantis without issue, but these are with Dyad un-machined rims.

Cheers, John

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[RBW] WTB: Roadini 50cm

[Ron Cramer]

Looking for a 50cm Roadini, color not a big deal, just has to be in good
condition. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[Bill Lindsay]

It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single speed 
Hunqapillar.  It's natural for those people to be sad that Rivendell 
offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a single 
speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA



On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:

> Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to sidepulls.
>
> I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is annoying.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping Rivs

[Steve]

Dave, I  really like your Platy build!She looks good loaded for travel. 

What's your impression riding it with a load?  
Thanks, Steve

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 5:33:12 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> I see a few Happisack (or similar) + front basket setups, which is what I 
> used on a recent S24O with my Platypus. This was warm weather camping in a 
> hammock. For nights cooler than 50deg I'd want more space for warmer quilts 
> and clothing - swapping the Happisack for a rear rack carrying two 
> small/front panniers would work. On a longer trip I'd also probably prefer 
> to move the Nalgene from the stem pouch to the underside downtube cage 
> mount to keep the pouch free for other things.
>
> [image: PXL_20240619_100234829_platy-packed-1800.jpg]
>
> -Dave
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 4:39:30 PM UTC-4 ericf3 wrote:
>
>>
>>> Love the cat...
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[brendonoid]

Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to sidepulls.

I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is annoying.

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[Josh C]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1429598715105228/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Ac182247c-c59a-414b-b7e2-f3ed5fa3354d

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 7:31:25 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:

> Great! James and Jason, I’ll be in touch. 
>
> Nic
>
> On Jun 27, 2024, at 13:07, James  wrote:
>
> I emailed ya Nic
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 10:53:20 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>
>> That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty 
>> frameset, if that size works. 
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>>
>>> If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to 
>>> it. 
>>>
>>> Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. 
>>>
>>> I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re in 
>>> the New England area. 
>>>
>>> Nic
>>>
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[RBW] FS: B17 Special Ti (brown), Nitto Mark Front Rack, Carradice Bag

[Eliot B]

All prices are OBO. 

Brooks B17 Special Titanium - antique brown with some patina but in 
excellent shape with full tension bolt left. $150

Nitto Marks Rack $100
Missing a set of struts (Riv sells them for $17)

Carradice Bag
Has seen better days but core bag is in excellent shape. Could use some 
leather refresh if you’re type A. $45

Vintage SILCA Impero Pump from 54cm frame. $45



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[Nicholas Fox]

Great! James and Jason, I’ll be in touch. NicOn Jun 27, 2024, at 13:07, James  wrote:I emailed ya NicOn Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 10:53:20 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty frameset, if that size works. On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to it. Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re in the New England area. Nic



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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[Eric Daume]

I agree on this. I love single speeds, and the 3x1 flexibility looks fun,
and the 61.5m profile looks just right for me, but those long reach brakes
are a deal breaker for me. I've built bikes with them in the past, and
their stopping power in the wet is inadequate for me. Maybe the Riv guys
never ride across a section of wet grass and then need to stop for a road
crossing, but I have, and had some scares with these brakes.

Eric
in Plain City, OH, wondering how they use those brakes in hills

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 5:50 PM Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
martinpgie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And I agree about the missing canti option. With the upcoming V-brake I
> would have bit the bullet on a silver one myself.
>
> Marty
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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping Rivs

[Steve]

Dave, I  really like your Platy build. She looks good loaded for travel. 

What your impression riding it packed?  
Thanks, Steve

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 5:33:12 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> I see a few Happisack (or similar) + front basket setups, which is what I 
> used on a recent S24O with my Platypus. This was warm weather camping in a 
> hammock. For nights cooler than 50deg I'd want more space for warmer quilts 
> and clothing - swapping the Happisack for a rear rack carrying two 
> small/front panniers would work. On a longer trip I'd also probably prefer 
> to move the Nalgene from the stem pouch to the underside downtube cage 
> mount to keep the pouch free for other things.
>
> [image: PXL_20240619_100234829_platy-packed-1800.jpg]
>
> -Dave
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 4:39:30 PM UTC-4 ericf3 wrote:
>
>>
>>> Love the cat...
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: powerbank charging of a phone

[John Bokman]

I'm trying an Anker Powerbank 30W with 10,000 mAh. Think I'll need to get a 
slightly more powerful wall charger to be able to power up both the 
powerbank and phone simultaneously. My Apple phone wall charger, at 20W 
didn't charge the phone, only the powerbank.

Will see how it goes. But at $30 on sale, I figured I'd give it a shot.
On Friday, June 21, 2024 at 2:33:25 PM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:

> Thanks all for your input!
>
> Bill: 
>  I'm using an Apple SE, version !OS 17.5.1 and it has 96% of the original 
> battery life left. The App for navigation is Ride with GPS. It is using 47% 
> of the battery.
>
> Concerning weight, I am not eager to carry more than 8 ounces of powerbank 
> (similar to your Belkin). 
>
> Bill, Jay, David: 
> My use case is an emergency backup which would show me the route I'm on, 
> with cue sheet info in case I were to get separated from a riding partner. 
> My riding partner has a Garmin so is the primary source of our routing. 
> Thus, I'm looking for a way to ensure that I can have access to that 
> information on an as-needed basis. My trip length is 7 riding days.
>
> On Friday, June 21, 2024 at 1:27:04 PM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear more about your intended situation - one thing 
>> you haven't mentioned is how long you expect to be out?
>>
>> Based on my backpacking experience, a phone in airplane mode but with GPS 
>> location enabled can be left powered on and used for intermittent 
>> navigation checks for days at a time. This assumes 1) the navigation app 
>> and/or settings being used aren't actively tracking and only obtaining and 
>> displaying location when the phone is actively being used / the screen is 
>> on, and 2) that you generally know the roads/trails you are and should be 
>> on and just need intermittent checks. 
>>
>> I use geospatial PDFs as described here: 
>> https://sectionhiker.com/how-to-navigate-with-geopdf-maps/ and create 
>> them with CalTopo as described here: 
>> https://sectionhiker.com/how-to-make-geopdf-maps-in-caltopo/
>>
>> I do still pack a battery pack for recharge in case my phone drains 
>> quicker than I expect for some reason. As Bill said, battery size (mAh) 
>> gives you more recharges; charging speed is controlled by amp output of the 
>> pack. You can always use the phone while it is charging from the pack (as 
>> long as the phone has the minimum charge it needs to operate).
>>
>> I really only navigate this way when hiking (combined with paper maps for 
>> redundancy). When riding I prefer always on navigation and turn by turn 
>> directions to avoid frequent stops to check location, but I suppose that's 
>> driven by the type and location of rides I'm doing. In a long-haul touring 
>> situation I could probably adapt to some kind of hybrid method.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Friday, June 21, 2024 at 4:10:37 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Putting numbers to mine:
>>>
>>> one RXBAR brand energy bar weighs 60g and has 230 calories
>>> My Mophie has 3500mA-hr capacity and weighs 81g and sources 1A
>>> My Belkin 1mA-hr capacity pack can source 3A and weight 205g
>>> My iPhone 15 has a ~3500mA-hr battery in it and goes for about 12 hours. 
>>>  
>>>
>>> So if I wanted one recharge of my phone and nothing else, and was going 
>>> to be riding for less than 24 hours before I can steal another USB port, 
>>> I'd carry the Mophie.  If I wanted to go much longer than 24 hours, and/or 
>>> wanted to charge other objects as well, I'd carry the Belkin.  My Mophie 
>>> was a gift and it's probably 8 years old.  The Belkin is relatively new.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 21, 2024 at 1:00:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Start with the size of the battery in your phone.  How many mA-hr does 
 your phone nominally have?  How long is "one full charge life"?  And how 
 many more charge - lives do you want to get from your power bank?  That 
 should inform you what size to get. 

 You say something about weight and capacity being a trade off.  How 
 much do you want it to weigh?  How light is "doesn't matter anymore"?

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, June 21, 2024 at 11:49:14 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:

> Questions to all:
>
> I want to get a powerbank to charge my phone while out in the boonies. 
>
> Criteria: 
> 1. low weight
> 2. small size
> 3. doesn't take forever to power up a phone enough to use maps. 
>
> Aside: 
> I will be powering off the phone unless using it for navigation only 
> as needed. Maps will be in "offline" mode  and phone in airplane mode , 
> so 
> not sucking juice.
>
> Not sure what size I need (bigger battery means quicker to charge, but 
> at a weight penalty, right?).
>
> Anker, Biolite, other?
> Recommendations?
>
> Thanks,
> John
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[Richard Rose]

Curious about the numbers too. I know vendors are all different but remember reading about Black Mountain difficulties due to minimum orders - something like 30 of each size / color? It put him - Black Mountain - in jeopardy. They made it work with single frame colors & fewer sizes.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 27, 2024, at 5:02 PM, Edwin W  wrote:I wonder how many they ordered of each iteration - with three colors and 5 sizes of frames and five sizes of completes, that could be up to something like 150 bikes (frames and completes) if they got 5 of each iteration listed, or 300 if they got 10. Or something in between if they mixed and matched.I hope they sell a lot and fill up their coffers!61.5 purple frame,EdwinOn Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:25:35 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:They appear to be moving, but it's not a total frenzy like some other releases in the past.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 12:13:50 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:One 54.5 in Ana Purple complete ordered. I decided that I like the high flange hubs on the wheelset and the new crankset so I ordered a complete instead of a frameset.LaingDelray Beach FLOn Sunday, June 23, 2024 at 4:59:43 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:The Roaduno sale begins Thursday June 27th noon Pacific time. Who is planning to buy one? Will you buy a frameset to build up or a complete? Color preference?I'm curious as to the demand for this bike. It's not JUST a single speed which I think is cool. And, cool is good in my lingo. What do you all think of the stock components?Let's talk Roaduno!!Doug



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[RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[Edwin W]

I wonder how many they ordered of each iteration - with three colors and 5 
sizes of frames and five sizes of completes, that could be up to something 
like 150 bikes (frames and completes) if they got 5 of each iteration 
listed, or 300 if they got 10. Or something in between if they mixed and 
matched.

I hope they sell a lot and fill up their coffers!

61.5 purple frame,

Edwin

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:25:35 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> They appear to be moving, but it's not a total frenzy like some other 
> releases in the past.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 12:13:50 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>
>> One 54.5 in Ana Purple complete ordered. I decided that I like the high 
>> flange hubs on the wheelset and the new crankset so I ordered a complete 
>> instead of a frameset.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>> On Sunday, June 23, 2024 at 4:59:43 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> The Roaduno sale begins Thursday June 27th noon Pacific time. Who is 
>>> planning to buy one? Will you buy a frameset to build up or a complete? 
>>> Color preference?
>>>
>>> I'm curious as to the demand for this bike. It's not JUST a single speed 
>>> which I think is cool. And, cool is good in my lingo. What do you all think 
>>> of the stock components?
>>>
>>> Let's talk Roaduno!!
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[Jon Dukeman]

Go to the riv info page click on dealers.
One of those dealers might have what you are looking for or have one being
delivered .

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024, 2:41 PM tio ryan  wrote:

> Didn't realize until placing my order (47.5 silver complete) that there
> weren't any 47.5 frames available.
>
> 47.5 complete in silver was sold out immediately after I got my order in.
>
> -tio
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 4:25:35 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> They appear to be moving, but it's not a total frenzy like some other
>> releases in the past.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 12:13:50 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> One 54.5 in Ana Purple complete ordered. I decided that I like the high
>>> flange hubs on the wheelset and the new crankset so I ordered a complete
>>> instead of a frameset.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 23, 2024 at 4:59:43 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 The Roaduno sale begins Thursday June 27th noon Pacific time. Who is
 planning to buy one? Will you buy a frameset to build up or a complete?
 Color preference?

 I'm curious as to the demand for this bike. It's not JUST a single
 speed which I think is cool. And, cool is good in my lingo. What do you all
 think of the stock components?

 Let's talk Roaduno!!

 Doug

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[RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[tio ryan]

Didn't realize until placing my order (47.5 silver complete) that there 
weren't any 47.5 frames available. 

47.5 complete in silver was sold out immediately after I got my order in. 

-tio
On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 4:25:35 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> They appear to be moving, but it's not a total frenzy like some other 
> releases in the past.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 12:13:50 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>
>> One 54.5 in Ana Purple complete ordered. I decided that I like the high 
>> flange hubs on the wheelset and the new crankset so I ordered a complete 
>> instead of a frameset.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>> On Sunday, June 23, 2024 at 4:59:43 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> The Roaduno sale begins Thursday June 27th noon Pacific time. Who is 
>>> planning to buy one? Will you buy a frameset to build up or a complete? 
>>> Color preference?
>>>
>>> I'm curious as to the demand for this bike. It's not JUST a single speed 
>>> which I think is cool. And, cool is good in my lingo. What do you all think 
>>> of the stock components?
>>>
>>> Let's talk Roaduno!!
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping Rivs

[Eric Floden]

>
>
> Love the cat...

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[RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[Bill Lindsay]

They appear to be moving, but it's not a total frenzy like some other 
releases in the past.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 12:13:50 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> One 54.5 in Ana Purple complete ordered. I decided that I like the high 
> flange hubs on the wheelset and the new crankset so I ordered a complete 
> instead of a frameset.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Sunday, June 23, 2024 at 4:59:43 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> The Roaduno sale begins Thursday June 27th noon Pacific time. Who is 
>> planning to buy one? Will you buy a frameset to build up or a complete? 
>> Color preference?
>>
>> I'm curious as to the demand for this bike. It's not JUST a single speed 
>> which I think is cool. And, cool is good in my lingo. What do you all think 
>> of the stock components?
>>
>> Let's talk Roaduno!!
>>
>> Doug
>>
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[RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[lconley]

One 54.5 in Ana Purple complete ordered. I decided that I like the high 
flange hubs on the wheelset and the new crankset so I ordered a complete 
instead of a frameset.

Laing
Delray Beach FL

On Sunday, June 23, 2024 at 4:59:43 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> The Roaduno sale begins Thursday June 27th noon Pacific time. Who is 
> planning to buy one? Will you buy a frameset to build up or a complete? 
> Color preference?
>
> I'm curious as to the demand for this bike. It's not JUST a single speed 
> which I think is cool. And, cool is good in my lingo. What do you all think 
> of the stock components?
>
> Let's talk Roaduno!!
>
> Doug
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[RBW] FS: 56cm Orange Rambouillet - SF Bay Area

[Greg J]

Hi friends,

I am looking to sell a 56cm early Rambouillet - with the pointy lugs and 
orange color.  I'm the original owner from 2002 or 2003, and my wife rode 
it sparingly.

The only issue is a decent-sized dent in the top tube, which happened 
around 2004-5, when another bike fell on it from a hook in the garage. 
 I've had it looked at and been told it's not a structural issue, merely 
cosmetic.  And we've had no issues with it since.  Other than the dent, 
it's in very good condition, with some scratches as would be expected but 
nothing notable, with that brilliant orange paint still looking new.

I'm looking for $750 for the f/f/hs and ~$1250 for the bike depending on 
the parts.  Currently built up as a 1x10 with Shimano bar ends, but I could 
also do a 3x9 Ultegra build.

We're selling it in order to buy a 54cm that became available, because I 
always that it was a tad too big.

I'll have pics this weekend but please contact me off-list if you or anyone 
you know is interested.  I very much prefer a local sale so that I don't 
have to worry about shipping it but will ship at cost (including 
professional packing by a shop).

Thanks,
Greg
Oakland

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[James]

I emailed ya Nic

On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 10:53:20 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:

> That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!
>
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty 
> frameset, if that size works. 
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>
>> If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to it. 
>>
>> Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. 
>>
>> I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re in 
>> the New England area. 
>>
>> Nic
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[RBW] FS 175mm White Industries Square Taper Crank and 40t Chainring

[Graham McCall]

Slightly used, White Ind Silver Crank- 175mm length- Road Square Taper with 
Polished Bronze Cap.

Black 40T chainring 1x- slightly used.

Both have under 500 miles. Sold the frame they went on. 

$275.

Total current retail is $400 with shipping.  

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[RBW] Re: As Roaduno drops, a SimpleOne redo

[Bill Lindsay]

APPROVE!  It almost always fun getting a worthwhile machine back on the 
road.  I hope he rides the heck out of it

BL in EC

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 7:36:09 AM UTC-7 thomas.all...@gmail.com 
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> As we await the RoadUno drop, I was repairing a SimpleOne build I did for 
> my youngest son some years ago.  He rode it for a while, but then it was 
> stolen -- it was recovered, but there was a fair amount of damage.  Anyway, 
> he recently asked me to help him get it back on the road, at minimal cost, 
> preferably with parts available from my shop.
>
> Here's how it looked on the 2012 Riv Rally East, led by Bobby Birmingham:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/bQ5xbZ
>
> Racks, fenders and front brakes were all damaged, bar tape got torn up, 
> one pedal trashed -- it was a lot.  But a much SIMPLER SimpleOne emerged 
> from the repair effort (though it's a bit funky, with a color riot on the 
> front end and a (possibly too classy) Berthoud bag on the rear).  Anyway, 
> here's the new version, post cheapskate repair:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2pZKWEy
>
> The "color riot" on the front end, featuring purple anodized Paul Cantis 
> and some crazy bar tape:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2pZJFSh
>
> It was fun getting it back on the road!
>
> Tom Allingham
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Clem Smith Jr L 52

[Doug H.]

John,
Many thanks. I appreciate your kind and generous offer. I plan to attempt
to find a used one but will keep these new ones in mind.
Doug

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:59 AM John Johnson 
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I can confirm that La Chouette (Paris) has a 52 in green right now. At
> least their website says so, and they are usually pretty good about keeping
> their stock up to date.
>
> Of course, it's more expensive than buying direct from Riv and then
> there's the whole issue of moving it from France to wherever you are
> located.
>
> I am located in France, I work about 10 minutes from La Chouette, I
> confirm that they are great and super helpful guys, and I'm happy to broker
> on your behalf if you don't find an easier solution (i.e. a used 52
> somewhere in the US).
>
> cheers,
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:13:02 PM UTC+2 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Doug,
>>
>> You are more than welcome.
>>
>> Kim.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:08:10 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the info Kim!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2024, at 12:59 AM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> @Doug,
>>>
>>> Here is one. You might want to call to verify that it is in stock in
>>> Canada.
>>>
>>> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html
>>>
>>> ...or in France:
>>> https://www.lachouetteparis.com/products/rivendell-clem-frame
>>>
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 1:42:11 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 I sold one but now want another one to set up for trail riding. If you
 have a 52 L in any color that you'd like to sell let me know.
 Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Clem Smith Jr L 52

[John Johnson]

Hi Doug,

I can confirm that La Chouette (Paris) has a 52 in green right now. At 
least their website says so, and they are usually pretty good about keeping 
their stock up to date.

Of course, it's more expensive than buying direct from Riv and then there's 
the whole issue of moving it from France to wherever you are located.

I am located in France, I work about 10 minutes from La Chouette, I confirm 
that they are great and super helpful guys, and I'm happy to broker on your 
behalf if you don't find an easier solution (i.e. a used 52 somewhere in 
the US). 

cheers,

John

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:13:02 PM UTC+2 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Doug,
>
> You are more than welcome.
>
> Kim.
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:08:10 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the info Kim!
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2024, at 12:59 AM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> @Doug,
>>
>> Here is one. You might want to call to verify that it is in stock in 
>> Canada.
>>
>> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html
>>
>> ...or in France:
>> https://www.lachouetteparis.com/products/rivendell-clem-frame
>>
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 1:42:11 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I sold one but now want another one to set up for trail riding. If you 
>>> have a 52 L in any color that you'd like to sell let me know.
>>> Doug
>>>
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[RBW] As Roaduno drops, a SimpleOne redo

[Tom Allingham]

As we await the RoadUno drop, I was repairing a SimpleOne build I did for
my youngest son some years ago.  He rode it for a while, but then it was
stolen -- it was recovered, but there was a fair amount of damage.  Anyway,
he recently asked me to help him get it back on the road, at minimal cost,
preferably with parts available from my shop.

Here's how it looked on the 2012 Riv Rally East, led by Bobby Birmingham:

https://flic.kr/p/bQ5xbZ

Racks, fenders and front brakes were all damaged, bar tape got torn up, one
pedal trashed -- it was a lot.  But a much SIMPLER SimpleOne emerged from
the repair effort (though it's a bit funky, with a color riot on the front
end and a (possibly too classy) Berthoud bag on the rear).  Anyway, here's
the new version, post cheapskate repair:

https://flic.kr/p/2pZKWEy

The "color riot" on the front end, featuring purple anodized Paul Cantis
and some crazy bar tape:

https://flic.kr/p/2pZJFSh

It was fun getting it back on the road!

Tom Allingham

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[tio ryan]

I blocked off 30 mins on my work calendar "*Busy, 3pm*". 

-tio "*you only need one*" ryan 


On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:39:50 AM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> I don’t think I’d have been upset if I’d had to get the  Purple one tho.
>
> The complete in that colour that Riv posted looks really nice, I think.
>
> Might just be because it’s my size!
>
> Good luck today anyone that’s going for one!
>
> P. W.
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>
>
>
>
> On Jun 27, 2024, at 6:36 AM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
> I have thought I’d like all three color options - and I do. But dang that 
> silver kills.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 6:54 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> The down tube graphics are exceptional.  I agree the purple "1" on the 
> silver pops.  I'm hooked on the Saint Jump stickers.  
>
> I bought two different R05C0 8U883 bikes because of the rocket headbadge. 
>  The Rosco Bubbe Road that I owned is available from CMR right now, and I 
> endorse it.  
>
> I half want to convince one of you frame set buyers to get a complete 
> instead so I can grab the parts kit.  I want a set of the svelte new Silver 
> cranks (in 173) and the Saint Jump wheels are great too.  If you are in the 
> East Bay hand-off range and want to do something, let me know.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Question to the group; anyone ever bought a bike solely for the downtube 
>> graphics? Riv nailed it with this Roaduno at least in my book. I do 
>> particularly like it on the silver but all three look good to me.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:50 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
>> martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> And I agree about the missing canti option. With the upcoming V-brake I 
>> would have bit the bullet on a silver one myself. 
>>
>> Marty
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[P W]

I don’t think I’d have been upset if I’d had to get the  Purple one tho.The complete in that colour that Riv posted looks really nice, I think.Might just be because it’s my size!Good luck today anyone that’s going for one!P. W.~(917) 514-2207~On Jun 27, 2024, at 6:36 AM, Richard Rose  wrote:I have thought I’d like all three color options - and I do. But dang that silver kills.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 26, 2024, at 6:54 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:The down tube graphics are exceptional.  I agree the purple "1" on the silver pops.  I'm hooked on the Saint Jump stickers.  I bought two different R05C0 8U883 bikes because of the rocket headbadge.  The Rosco Bubbe Road that I owned is available from CMR right now, and I endorse it.  I half want to convince one of you frame set buyers to get a complete instead so I can grab the parts kit.  I want a set of the svelte new Silver cranks (in 173) and the Saint Jump wheels are great too.  If you are in the East Bay hand-off range and want to do something, let me know.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Question to the group; anyone ever bought a bike solely for the downtube graphics? Riv nailed it with this Roaduno at least in my book. I do particularly like it on the silver but all three look good to me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 26, 2024, at 5:50 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA  wrote:And I agree about the missing canti option. With the upcoming V-brake I would have bit the bullet on a silver one myself. Marty



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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[Richard Rose]

I have thought I’d like all three color options - and I do. But dang that silver kills.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 26, 2024, at 6:54 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:The down tube graphics are exceptional.  I agree the purple "1" on the silver pops.  I'm hooked on the Saint Jump stickers.  I bought two different R05C0 8U883 bikes because of the rocket headbadge.  The Rosco Bubbe Road that I owned is available from CMR right now, and I endorse it.  I half want to convince one of you frame set buyers to get a complete instead so I can grab the parts kit.  I want a set of the svelte new Silver cranks (in 173) and the Saint Jump wheels are great too.  If you are in the East Bay hand-off range and want to do something, let me know.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:Question to the group; anyone ever bought a bike solely for the downtube graphics? Riv nailed it with this Roaduno at least in my book. I do particularly like it on the silver but all three look good to me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 26, 2024, at 5:50 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA  wrote:And I agree about the missing canti option. With the upcoming V-brake I would have bit the bullet on a silver one myself. Marty



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Clem Smith Jr L 52

[Kim H.]

@Doug,

You are more than welcome.

Kim.

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:08:10 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> Thank you for the info Kim!
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 27, 2024, at 12:59 AM, Kim H.  wrote:
>
> 
>
> @Doug,
>
> Here is one. You might want to call to verify that it is in stock in 
> Canada.
>
> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html
>
> ...or in France:
> https://www.lachouetteparis.com/products/rivendell-clem-frame
>
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 1:42:11 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I sold one but now want another one to set up for trail riding. If you 
>> have a 52 L in any color that you'd like to sell let me know.
>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[Edwin W]

Bill,

That is an awesome offer! I wish I still lived in Berkeley... I would love 
to do that.

Sadly (for this reason) in Nashville,

Edwin

On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 7:06:56 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> New Email Newsletter all about the Roaduno is out.  So, based on my above 
> "offer", if you plan to buy a 58 or a 61.5 frame set, think about getting 
> the complete instead and letting me in on the parts.  The price delta is 
> $650.  My offer is $700 plus my personal expert labor in helping you pull 
> your complete together.  You'll get the frame a hair cheaper.  I only want 
> to do this if it's local, so we don't have to ship things around.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:54:00 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The down tube graphics are exceptional.  I agree the purple "1" on the 
>> silver pops.  I'm hooked on the Saint Jump stickers.  
>>
>> I bought two different R05C0 8U883 bikes because of the rocket headbadge. 
>>  The Rosco Bubbe Road that I owned is available from CMR right now, and I 
>> endorse it.  
>>
>> I half want to convince one of you frame set buyers to get a complete 
>> instead so I can grab the parts kit.  I want a set of the svelte new Silver 
>> cranks (in 173) and the Saint Jump wheels are great too.  If you are in the 
>> East Bay hand-off range and want to do something, let me know.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Question to the group; anyone ever bought a bike solely for the downtube 
>>> graphics? Riv nailed it with this Roaduno at least in my book. I do 
>>> particularly like it on the silver but all three look good to me.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:50 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
>>> martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> And I agree about the missing canti option. With the upcoming V-brake I 
>>> would have bit the bullet on a silver one myself. 
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Technomic 100mm stem

[Kim H.]

Sorry... the clamp diameter is 25.4mm

Kim Hetzel.

On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 11:06:58 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> I have a used Nitto Technomic 100mm stem that came with my demo Rivendell 
> 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle from Rivendell BIcycle Works in California. 
> I longer have a need for it. It does have some beausage. It is still very 
> functional. 
>
> $40.00, plus shipping in the lower 48 states
> Paypal payment, please.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> [image: 20240626_134519.jpg]
>
> [image: 20240626_134541.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Technomic Stem

[J S]

Thanks Gorgonzola. I’ll look at Nitto face plate.


On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 9:42 PM Gordon Stam  wrote:

> Joel, maybe look into one of those Nitto 4 bolt face plate stems. I
> believe that the quill is just as long as the Technomic, or Tallux, at 225
> cm but the stem comes out at 90 degrees which gives you a few extra cm of
> height. A little geometry, or an online stem length/height calculator, will
> tell you how much.
>
> Concerning a step through for balance issue mitigation - I don't know.
> Maybe getting on is easier since you don't necessarily have to swing your
> leg over the saddle but when you stop the lack of a crossbar makes keeping
> the bike upright a little trickier. I got my Clem Jr. this spring (love it,
> actually) and that lack of a cross bar caught me out on a few occasions and
> I dropped the bike. I've since gotten used to it, sort of. That said youay
> be right, getting on and off might be easier if the balance is getting to
> be an issue. Good luck!
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 4:32 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>
>> @Joel,
>>
>> You are more than welcome.
>> I hope it works out very well for you.
>> Send some pictures to us herein would be nice, when you get it installed.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 2:39:15 PM UTC-7 J S wrote:
>>
>>> Kim,
>>> I’m with you on threadless, not for me. I think I found the same stem,
>>> maybe on Ben’s, Technomic XL or something like that.
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 2:05 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>>
 You are more than welcome, Joel.

 So, in a nutshell, you are trying to find a way to get your handlebar
 higher ? Right  ?

 After a long research on the internet, I found that long quill stem. I
 was and remain very pleased with the outcome. I just couldn't cross the
 threadless stem bridge as stubborn as I am from being old school. My bike
 would not look right.

 Let me know what your decision choice is.

 Sincerely,
 Kim.



 On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 10:56 AM J S  wrote:

>
> Thanks Kim, you’ve got that right and the miles get less and speed
> slower. But if I can still ride I am happy.
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 12:49 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>
>> As we grow older, the gears get lower and the handlebars get higher.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 9:25:49 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joel,
>>>
>>> I bought a NITTO Technomic NTC-280 Stem
>>>  on
>>> my 58cm Nitto Bosco bars from Alex Cycles without going threadless. I am
>>> happy with it on my Clem.
>>>
>>> [image: thumbnail_20240111_143550.jpg]
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-7 J S wrote:
>>>
 Rich, thanks. A forum friend said he has a nitto steerer extender.
 I am waiting for pics. He said it would give me up to 3” added height. 
 That
 might be the least expensive way ro go about this and solve the 
 problem. I
 am hoping it is feasible.

 Hoping you are well and riding, my Hillborne seems to be the most
 comfortable but the bars are 3cm higher than the saddle compares to the
 Saluki and yes, I would like to Keep the Saluki if possible.

 Joel



 On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:25 AM RichS  wrote:

> Hi Joel,
>
> One more suggestion, albeit more extreme than a stem change, would
> be to have a framebuilder replace the existing steerer tube with a 
> taller
> one.
> I guess that alternative would depend on how committed you are to
> keeping the Saluki. Good luck with whatever direction you choose. The
> mixtes you mentioned would be on my list as well if my septugenarian 
> body
> demands it at some point!
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 3:20:56 PM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Erik, I did find both of those and either might be the
>> solution.
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 1:14 PM Erik Wright 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joel,
>>>
>>> Soma has a couple options. You could look at the 225mm rise
>>> Dirt Drop stem
>>> 
>>> for some more height, or the mega-tall 280mm rise Nitto Technomic 
>>> (25.4
>>> version for your Chocos/Albas
>>> )
>>> for even more.
>>>
>>> Getting a mixte would be pretty cool, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[Doug H.]

As much as I enjoy single speed riding I don't plan to buy a Roaduno today. 
I think the Silver with all black components would be so nice. Good luck to 
all who plan to buy! Keep your fingers on your keyboard.
Doug

On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> New Email Newsletter all about the Roaduno is out.  So, based on my above 
> "offer", if you plan to buy a 58 or a 61.5 frame set, think about getting 
> the complete instead and letting me in on the parts.  The price delta is 
> $650.  My offer is $700 plus my personal expert labor in helping you pull 
> your complete together.  You'll get the frame a hair cheaper.  I only want 
> to do this if it's local, so we don't have to ship things around.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:54:00 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The down tube graphics are exceptional.  I agree the purple "1" on the 
>> silver pops.  I'm hooked on the Saint Jump stickers.  
>>
>> I bought two different R05C0 8U883 bikes because of the rocket headbadge. 
>>  The Rosco Bubbe Road that I owned is available from CMR right now, and I 
>> endorse it.  
>>
>> I half want to convince one of you frame set buyers to get a complete 
>> instead so I can grab the parts kit.  I want a set of the svelte new Silver 
>> cranks (in 173) and the Saint Jump wheels are great too.  If you are in the 
>> East Bay hand-off range and want to do something, let me know.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Question to the group; anyone ever bought a bike solely for the downtube 
>>> graphics? Riv nailed it with this Roaduno at least in my book. I do 
>>> particularly like it on the silver but all three look good to me.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:50 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
>>> martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> And I agree about the missing canti option. With the upcoming V-brake I 
>>> would have bit the bullet on a silver one myself. 
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Clem Smith Jr L 52

[Doug Hansford]

Thank you for the info Kim!DougSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 27, 2024, at 12:59 AM, Kim H.  wrote:@Doug,Here is one. You might want to call to verify that it is in stock in Canada.https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html...or in France:https://www.lachouetteparis.com/products/rivendell-clem-frameKim Hetzel.On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 1:42:11 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:I sold one but now want another one to set up for trail riding. If you have a 52 L in any color that you'd like to sell let me know.Doug



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