Re: [RBW] Crankset Options and Understanding

[Victor Hanson]

don't think of it in crankset size, think of the tire size you want to
use.  Anything over 45mm is mtn and requries a 52mm chainline.   38-44 is
the trick, this could be mt.  but a lot of cross/gravel cranks.   What
dirve train impacts the use.   32-35 is definite cross territory and
46-48mm chainline should work.  Good luck

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:37 PM Jay  wrote:

> Is there a site or youtube channel that explains crankset specs and
> compatibility (like all about them and how they work with a drivetrain, and
> frame).  It's one part of the bike I really don't understand.
>
> Reason I'm asking is that at some point, I would like to switch my black
> GRX 2x crankset on my Roadini to something silver in colour.   But I want
> to understand this from a 'system' perspective vs. individual parts. Also,
> I really just want to understand how they match up to bottom brackets, BCD,
> spacing for the frame, how they interact with the different speeds (e.g.,
> can a 10 or 12 speed crankset work with an 11sp drivetrain?), crank arms
> vs. chain rings and compatibility, etc., etc.  I want to learn up front
> now, so I can think of this longer term and when I come across a part that
> meets my future build ideas, on sale, I can confidently pull the trigger.
>
> Feel free to share your wisdom here too, but I was asking for reference
> sites/channels so I learn on my own, over time.
>
> Thanks!
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[RBW] Chicago-area Riv riders - North Shore Century

[Ted Fay]

If up for a casual (or not) ride from Evanston to parts north (25, 50, 
metric Century, 100 miles to WI and back), this is a nice way to begin 
winding down summer. This year's ride is Sept 15. I'll be out on my 
Platypus. Hope to see you. 

North Shore Century 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Two pairs of the new MUSA shorts sz. L & a Woolywarm wool jersey sz. XL

[Daniel Rooke]

Hey Steven, As of right now either color is still availableThanksOn Jun 30, 2024, at 4:01 PM, Steven Sweedler  wrote:Daniel, which is colors are still availableSteven SweedlerPlymouth, New HampshireOn Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 1:08 PM Daniel Rooke  wrote:Bumping this for summer.  Shorts still available.  Will say $70 for both or $40 per pair.  ThanksOn Monday, January 22, 2024 at 3:41:57 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:Jersey has sold.On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 9:58:37 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:Amending prices to $60 for either pair of shorts and the jersey is $65 shipped.On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:00:08 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:Hello,I have one Black and one Ranger Green pair of the new MUSA shorts for sale. Two small marks on the right rear pocket of the green shorts.  Both are size large and weren't worn much. $70 for the black and $65 for the green or $110 for both.The Woolywarm jersey is navy merino wool and no size tag so I'll provide the measurements below.  It's in excellent condition.  I never wore it but bought it from someone else, although it looks almost new. Maybe they didn't wear it either?  It's really, really nice and if it fit me I'd keep it.  Armpit to armpit: 22"Collar to hem: 30"Collar to end of the short sleeve is 14"All prices include shipping.If you want everything let's say $160.ThanksPhotos



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Re: [RBW] Re: Asheville Riv Rendesvous Recap

[Roberto Volta]

I'd love to join this year! I am not officially a Riv owner but a 
Bridgestone owner :)

Il giorno domenica 30 giugno 2024 alle 01:57:52 UTC+2 dpe...@gmail.com ha 
scritto:

> cool! 
>
>
>
> Dick Perlmutter
> 704-254-3056 <(704)%20254-3056>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:46 PM Steve  wrote:
>
>> Dick, I've heard some loose talk about maybe September, but to my 
>> knowledge nothing has jelled yet. I'll try to touch base with the local 
>> planning group and see what their thoughts are. If it's a go we'll get a 
>> notice up on the Owners Bunch group site.
>>
>> Steve Forst
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 3:59 PM Dick Perlmutter  wrote:
>>
>>> Are there plans for an Asheville (or area) meetup this year?
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 2:16:05 AM UTC-4 Chris Clodfelter wrote:
>>>
 Looks like it was a great get together.

 On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 8:31:50 AM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:

> Just a quick recap from our fantastic Riv weekend in Asheville.
>
> It was a blast. Almost 25 riders from Indiana to FL, including 10 
> local folks. Everyone was great and the bikes were, as you can imagine, 
> almost all rivs, but we did let in a bridgestone :).  A Hunq, 5 
> Appaloosas, 
> a couple of Atlanti, 3 or 4 gorgeous customs, the famous Betty Foy ridden 
> 72.000 miles by Pam (yes 72K!), a purple Rosco Platypus, a pumpkin 
> platypus, a couple of Sams, and two Salukis, a Gus, and probably some 
> more 
> that I'm forgetting.
>
> Some highlights:
> The River Arts District greenway ride followed by beer and dinner at 
> New Belgium Brewing, where our bikes took up and spilled over the entire 
> bike rack system.
>
> Our Bent Creek Gravel rides - three groups had a splendid day with not 
> too hot temps, no rain, and perfect fire roads.
>
> Two friendly bears who realized they were in the poster and better 
> make an appearance.
>
> Our bike parts garage sale, where everyone realized that we were all 
> trying to get rid of lots of tires, stems, handlebars, bags, etc. that 
> everyone else there already had. We all have a bike parts hoarding 
> problem.
>
> Beer and dinner at The Wedge brewery Saturday night.
>
> The fabulous poster from Brian.
>
> All of the fun people that came together with amazing bikes, great 
> personalities, and brought all of their fun to the weekend.
>
> Enthusiastic agreement that we should do it all again, maybe in during 
> a fall or spring timeframe.
>
> And thanks to a very gracious offer from Leah, she put our pics and 
> videos together into one of her great videos - THANK YOU, LEAH!  A link 
> to 
> her video is below if you'd like to watch it.
>
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0xG1CvrSGHQ6um
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[RBW] Re: Where can I read try out a ton of different Rivendell models?

[Anthony Davila]

I've been riding a large Raleigh Cadent 1 which is a hybrid I bought in 
2021. I attached a sizing chart!
[image: Sizing]

Honestly, I started looking at flights to San Francisco and am leaning 
towards taking a week vacation before the school year starts back up to go 
try out some Rivendells. Do they usually have most models for test-riding 
there? Excited to go out there and see what it's like! Also thanks for the 
advice and stories Glenn and Jim. 
On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 5:15:05 PM UTC-4 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> What kind of bikes have you been riding previously? 
> The reason I ask is that at 86CM PBH, you are probably "between" the 54 
> and 57. 
> If you walked into most shops, they would probably to put you on the 
> smaller bike for all the reasons we fear most shops.
> If you showed up in Walnut Creek and anyone at the RBWHQ&L got chatting 
> with you, they'd likely encourage you to try the larger size. 
>
> Also, if you are going for upright bars, that might change the equation a 
> bit. 
> If you are 5'11" with a true 86CM PBH, then you probably are a little 
> longer in the upper body 
>
> You might call them in Walnut Creek and be honest about your budget 
> restrictions and the fact you might not be buying it right away. They fit 
> folks well. 
>
> J
>
> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 2:04:48 PM UTC-7 anthony...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I should’ve stated in the original post, my bad. I’m thinking that a 54 
>> cm Roadini would be a good fit since I’m 5’11 and have a PBH of 86 cm. 
>> Please let me know if I’m wrong though!
>>
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 8:32:27 AM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Regarding the test rides: you should state your desired frame size 
>>> and/or your PBH. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 3:25:21 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Finding a local Rivendell owner is a good idea, and you should 
 definitely try to pursue that.  In 2024 it can be tricky to execute a 
 Rivendell Acquisition Plan a year in advance.  If it's a year down the 
 road 
 because you are saving up the money then my advice is to plan on being 
 patient twice.  Be patient now while you are saving up the money and 
 trying 
 to arrange your informal test ride stuff.  The second round of being 
 patient will hinge on what is actually available for you to buy in the 
 summer of 2025.  If you have your heart set on one particular thing, and 
 that thing isn't available, then you'll have to react to that situation.  

 Big picture, if it's possible, I think it's a good idea in 2024 to be 
 ready to react when the perfect bike presents itself to you. If a bike you 
 want to own is available, buy it, because it may not be available to you 
 later.  That's easier said than done, particularly if your tastes are 
 fluid.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 9:36:53 AM UTC-7 anthony...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hi, I'm interested in getting a Rivendell in a year or so, but I 
> wanted to try some out in the meantime. Does anyone know of any places 
> that 
> have readily available rivs (preferably Roadinis)? Where did you guys try 
> them out before purchasing? 
>
> I'm from Florida and the riv dealer near me doesn't have any complete 
> bikes. If anyone is in the Tampa or Miami area and is generous enough to 
> let me have a test-ride, that would be great! Thanks in advance!



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[RBW] Re: Where can I read try out a ton of different Rivendell models?

[Bill Lindsay]

Do they usually have most models for test-riding there?

Riv Headquarters is several bays in an industrial park, big roll-up garage 
space.  One of the bays is the "showroom".  There are usually about 20-25 
built up demo bikes there.  Those demo bikes usually represent what is 
available right now and sometimes what is going to be available very soon. 
 Since the Leo Roadini is sold out in 54 and 57, I suspect they will not 
have a 54cm or a 57cm demo Leo Roadini there for you to test ride.  Call 
them, and discuss what you are thinking about and they'll help you 
formulate a strategy.  Maybe they have a 57 Hillborne and can talk to you 
about the subtle differences between a Hillborne and a Roadini.  At least 
one of the employees runs a Roadini, and they are usually generous with 
letting customers ride their bikes.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-7 anthony...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been riding a large Raleigh Cadent 1 which is a hybrid I bought in 
> 2021. I attached a sizing chart!
> [image: Sizing]
>
> Honestly, I started looking at flights to San Francisco and am leaning 
> towards taking a week vacation before the school year starts back up to go 
> try out some Rivendells. Do they usually have most models for test-riding 
> there? Excited to go out there and see what it's like! Also thanks for the 
> advice and stories Glenn and Jim. 
> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 5:15:05 PM UTC-4 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
>> What kind of bikes have you been riding previously? 
>> The reason I ask is that at 86CM PBH, you are probably "between" the 54 
>> and 57. 
>> If you walked into most shops, they would probably to put you on the 
>> smaller bike for all the reasons we fear most shops.
>> If you showed up in Walnut Creek and anyone at the RBWHQ&L got chatting 
>> with you, they'd likely encourage you to try the larger size. 
>>
>> Also, if you are going for upright bars, that might change the equation a 
>> bit. 
>> If you are 5'11" with a true 86CM PBH, then you probably are a little 
>> longer in the upper body 
>>
>> You might call them in Walnut Creek and be honest about your budget 
>> restrictions and the fact you might not be buying it right away. They fit 
>> folks well. 
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 2:04:48 PM UTC-7 anthony...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I should’ve stated in the original post, my bad. I’m thinking that a 54 
>>> cm Roadini would be a good fit since I’m 5’11 and have a PBH of 86 cm. 
>>> Please let me know if I’m wrong though!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 8:32:27 AM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Regarding the test rides: you should state your desired frame size 
 and/or your PBH. 


 On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 3:25:21 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Finding a local Rivendell owner is a good idea, and you should 
> definitely try to pursue that.  In 2024 it can be tricky to execute a 
> Rivendell Acquisition Plan a year in advance.  If it's a year down the 
> road 
> because you are saving up the money then my advice is to plan on being 
> patient twice.  Be patient now while you are saving up the money and 
> trying 
> to arrange your informal test ride stuff.  The second round of being 
> patient will hinge on what is actually available for you to buy in the 
> summer of 2025.  If you have your heart set on one particular thing, and 
> that thing isn't available, then you'll have to react to that situation.  
>
> Big picture, if it's possible, I think it's a good idea in 2024 to be 
> ready to react when the perfect bike presents itself to you. If a bike 
> you 
> want to own is available, buy it, because it may not be available to you 
> later.  That's easier said than done, particularly if your tastes are 
> fluid.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 9:36:53 AM UTC-7 anthony...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, I'm interested in getting a Rivendell in a year or so, but I 
>> wanted to try some out in the meantime. Does anyone know of any places 
>> that 
>> have readily available rivs (preferably Roadinis)? Where did you guys 
>> try 
>> them out before purchasing? 
>>
>> I'm from Florida and the riv dealer near me doesn't have any complete 
>> bikes. If anyone is in the Tampa or Miami area and is generous enough to 
>> let me have a test-ride, that would be great! Thanks in advance!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Where can I read try out a ton of different Rivendell models?

[Edwin W]

Your strategy is good (since it was very similar to mine in 2010): read a 
good bit about it, think about which bike you might get, go to Riv HQ (many 
reasons to be in Northern California at some point, right?) and try some 
out. You will enjoy the Rivendell ride quality (or your money back, haha) 
and you will buy one used or new. 
I had never spent that much on a bike before, despite owning many bikes. I 
got my first Hillborne used, frame only, and they gentleman who sold it to 
me gave me good advice: "the price isn't so bad if you always have one to 
sell!"

Edwin

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 11:40:44 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Do they usually have most models for test-riding there?
>
> Riv Headquarters is several bays in an industrial park, big roll-up garage 
> space.  One of the bays is the "showroom".  There are usually about 20-25 
> built up demo bikes there.  Those demo bikes usually represent what is 
> available right now and sometimes what is going to be available very soon. 
>  Since the Leo Roadini is sold out in 54 and 57, I suspect they will not 
> have a 54cm or a 57cm demo Leo Roadini there for you to test ride.  Call 
> them, and discuss what you are thinking about and they'll help you 
> formulate a strategy.  Maybe they have a 57 Hillborne and can talk to you 
> about the subtle differences between a Hillborne and a Roadini.  At least 
> one of the employees runs a Roadini, and they are usually generous with 
> letting customers ride their bikes.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-7 anthony...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've been riding a large Raleigh Cadent 1 which is a hybrid I bought in 
>> 2021. I attached a sizing chart!
>> [image: Sizing]
>>
>> Honestly, I started looking at flights to San Francisco and am leaning 
>> towards taking a week vacation before the school year starts back up to go 
>> try out some Rivendells. Do they usually have most models for test-riding 
>> there? Excited to go out there and see what it's like! Also thanks for the 
>> advice and stories Glenn and Jim. 
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 5:15:05 PM UTC-4 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>>
>>> What kind of bikes have you been riding previously? 
>>> The reason I ask is that at 86CM PBH, you are probably "between" the 54 
>>> and 57. 
>>> If you walked into most shops, they would probably to put you on the 
>>> smaller bike for all the reasons we fear most shops.
>>> If you showed up in Walnut Creek and anyone at the RBWHQ&L got chatting 
>>> with you, they'd likely encourage you to try the larger size. 
>>>
>>> Also, if you are going for upright bars, that might change the equation 
>>> a bit. 
>>> If you are 5'11" with a true 86CM PBH, then you probably are a little 
>>> longer in the upper body 
>>>
>>> You might call them in Walnut Creek and be honest about your budget 
>>> restrictions and the fact you might not be buying it right away. They fit 
>>> folks well. 
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 2:04:48 PM UTC-7 anthony...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I should’ve stated in the original post, my bad. I’m thinking that a 54 
 cm Roadini would be a good fit since I’m 5’11 and have a PBH of 86 cm. 
 Please let me know if I’m wrong though!

 On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 8:32:27 AM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Regarding the test rides: you should state your desired frame size 
> and/or your PBH. 
>
>
> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 3:25:21 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Finding a local Rivendell owner is a good idea, and you should 
>> definitely try to pursue that.  In 2024 it can be tricky to execute a 
>> Rivendell Acquisition Plan a year in advance.  If it's a year down the 
>> road 
>> because you are saving up the money then my advice is to plan on being 
>> patient twice.  Be patient now while you are saving up the money and 
>> trying 
>> to arrange your informal test ride stuff.  The second round of being 
>> patient will hinge on what is actually available for you to buy in the 
>> summer of 2025.  If you have your heart set on one particular thing, and 
>> that thing isn't available, then you'll have to react to that situation. 
>>  
>>
>> Big picture, if it's possible, I think it's a good idea in 2024 to be 
>> ready to react when the perfect bike presents itself to you. If a bike 
>> you 
>> want to own is available, buy it, because it may not be available to you 
>> later.  That's easier said than done, particularly if your tastes are 
>> fluid.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 9:36:53 AM UTC-7 anthony...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I'm interested in getting a Rivendell in a year or so, but I 
>>> wanted to try some out in the meantime. Does anyone know of any places 
>>> that 
>>> have readily available rivs (preferably 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Two pairs of the new MUSA shorts sz. L & a Woolywarm wool jersey sz. XL

[Daniel Rooke]

All sold.  Sorry to those I didn't reply too.  Thanks. 

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 9:16:05 AM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Hey Steven, 
>
> As of right now either color is still available
>
> Thanks
>
> On Jun 30, 2024, at 4:01 PM, Steven Sweedler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Daniel, which is colors are still available
>
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 1:08 PM Daniel Rooke  wrote:
>
>> Bumping this for summer.  Shorts still available.  Will say $70 for both 
>> or $40 per pair.  Thanks
>>
>> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 3:41:57 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>>
>>> Jersey has sold.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 9:58:37 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>>>
 Amending prices to $60 for either pair of shorts and the jersey is $65 
 shipped.

 On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:00:08 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have one Black and one Ranger Green pair of the new MUSA shorts for 
> sale. Two small marks on the right rear pocket of the green shorts.  Both 
> are size large and weren't worn much.
>  
> $70 for the black and $65 for the green or $110 for both.
>
> The Woolywarm jersey is navy merino wool and no size tag so I'll 
> provide the measurements below.  It's in excellent condition.  I never 
> wore 
> it but bought it from someone else, although it looks almost new. Maybe 
> they didn't wear it either?  It's really, really nice and if it fit me 
> I'd 
> keep it.  
>
> Armpit to armpit: 22"
> Collar to hem: 30"
> Collar to end of the short sleeve is 14"
>
> All prices include shipping.
>
> If you want everything let's say $160.
>
> Thanks
>
> Photos 
> 
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Rosco-Bubbe Road (quickbeam with gears)

[CMR]

Higher quality photos now in the Flickr link, sorry they were compressed 
when uploading:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/21267164@N02/with/53828779454




On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:49:07 AM UTC-7 CMR wrote:

> Now open to shipping at cost - thanks!
>
> Congrats to all who grabbed a Roaduno.
>
>
> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 3:57:01 PM UTC-7 CMR wrote:
>
>>
>>   Price drop - $1,200 without saddle or front rack set-up and 1,300 for 
>> everything. Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 10:14:58 PM UTC-7 CMR wrote:
>>
>>> Selling a versatile and fun bike. It rides a lot like a quickbeam and 
>>> has a few nice touches that make it distinct. Horizontal dropouts so build 
>>> a nice single speed for less than the price of a Roaduno frameset! I have a 
>>> nice Ultegra/Mavic open sport with a single speed spacer kit and 2 single 
>>> speed cogs if interested.
>>>
>>> As seen here: 
>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/154226333284/the-rosco-bubbe-project-frames-and-a-few-demos
>>>
>>> ETT: 57.5cm
>>> Seattube CTT: 58cm
>>> Headtube angle: 72.5
>>> Seattube angle: 72
>>> Bottom bracket drop: 73mm
>>> Chainstay length: 45cm
>>> Headtube length: 16.7cm
>>> Quickbeam fork!
>>>
>>> This is almost identical to a 58cm quickbeam: 
>>> http://cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/quickbeam_geometry.pdf
>>>
>>> Sizing is deceptive because it has a dropped top tube with extended 
>>> seatpost collar and headtube. Set up as shown with 74cm seat height.
>>>
>>> -Dura ace crankset, 1x with a new bottom bracket
>>> -New deore rear derailleur, new cables/housing, new chain, new freewheel
>>> -Generic but functional v-brakes (new cables/housing), wide rim wheelset
>>> -New Schwalbe marathons 700x42, with plenty of room for larger tires or 
>>> fenders.
>>> -Remarkable, famous, one-of-a-kind BUBBE LIFTER tube
>>> -Soma Lucas front rack, Wald basket, useful basket net from Riv
>>> -Brooks Swallow in excellent condition, not broken in
>>> -Pictured pedals are not included but I have SPDs or flats if you’d like
>>> -Rosco-Bubbe t shirt (thanks Bill!)
>>>
>>> $1,400 picked up in Menlo Park, happy to drop it off if nearby. Not 
>>> interested in selling the frameset alone and I want to avoid shipping for 
>>> now.
>>>
>>> More pics: https://www.flickr.com/photos/21267164@N02/with/53805889375
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] NYC based bike campers

[Minh]

Hi all, 

I recently did a packratters organized bike camp, and realized how much I 
enjoyed the quiet and being disconnected after a long ride (we went up to 
Croton).  I've been trying to find other opportunities to do it again, I 
know about the 718 organized rides (its my local bike shop), but i've also 
been trying to find a small group to organize semi-informally, both to 
share the cost of the camp fees but also to have some backup during the 
ride and onsite.  

Are there folks in this group that do this already that would be open for a 
singleton to join? Or are there a few people interested in trying to 
arrange something?  i'm old and slow, and won't stay up all nite drinking 
beer at the campfire--though I will support you if you do!   If we go to 
Croton, I know a lady named Susan that bakes great pies, first one is on me!

Minh
Quickbeam (green, way too many accessories), Park Slope

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[RBW] UPDATE: FS: saddles, seat post, brakeset, and a messenger bag

[Kim H.]

 The following is what still available:

I am accepting offers on the following:

Terry Cite X Gel saddle -$30.00
Terry Cite X Gel Italia saddle - $30.00
or both for $45.00.
Excellent condition
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XktsSZ1Sv3LacQdu6

Avocet seat post 26.8mm - $45.00
NOS - excellent condition
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KG6zSJ7r52qDwSNR7

Nitto Technomic stem 25.4 clamp diameter - $40.00
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HpGuKTVUmKDs5e956
Used in fair condition  

Campagnolo Nuovo Record brakeset -  $200.00
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zFZ4tdooKfxMCbUM8
Used in very good condition with scratches on levers

Ortlieb messenger bag - $75.00
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nC3XN6piVZbEk4s26
Brand new - received as a gift - never used

Combined shipping costs available
Pricing does not include shipping in the lower 48 states
Paypal payment, please.

Any questions, email me.

Kim Hetzel 

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[RBW] Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

[Michael Moote]

Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a few 
messages from different folks before my post got taken down but tenere 
had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted to 
check in here to see if anyone knew them? 

email address tenere...@gmail.com

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[RBW] Re: Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Sorry Michael - I may have nicked that post accidentally. We had a few 
weird ones pop up over the weekend. 

To be very clear, I would not in any way trust them to be a legit source. 

They are not a group member, so I suspect it's similar to the issues we had 
with another random gmail account. 

If someone sends you photos of an item but have no history of interacting 
within this group, I personally would give it a hard pass. There are many, 
many scammers floating around who can easily scrape appropriate images off 
the web. 

- Jim / list admin



On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:40:41 PM UTC-7 michae...@gmail.com wrote:

> Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a 
> few messages from different folks before my post got taken down but 
> tenere had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted 
> to check in here to see if anyone knew them? 
>
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[RBW] Re: Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

[Johnny Alien]

I don't see that email listed in the Members list but I could be 
interneting wrong

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 5:40:41 PM UTC-4 michae...@gmail.com wrote:

> Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a 
> few messages from different folks before my post got taken down but 
> tenere had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted 
> to check in here to see if anyone knew them? 
>
> email address tene...@gmail.com
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[RBW] Re: Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

[Bill Lindsay]

That does not ring a bell and if you type "tenere" into the search window, 
only your post comes up.  So that's suspicious.  Do not send them money 
until you lay out a transfer plan that protects you.  There are several 
ways to do that, but it that person is a scammer, they won't agree to any 
of them.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:40:41 PM UTC-7 michae...@gmail.com wrote:

> Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a 
> few messages from different folks before my post got taken down but 
> tenere had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted 
> to check in here to see if anyone knew them? 
>
> email address tene...@gmail.com
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[RBW] Re: Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

[Cyclofiend Jim]

And there was a post back on June 15th when I removed them from the group. 

J

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:46:55 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> That does not ring a bell and if you type "tenere" into the search window, 
> only your post comes up.  So that's suspicious.  Do not send them money 
> until you lay out a transfer plan that protects you.  There are several 
> ways to do that, but it that person is a scammer, they won't agree to any 
> of them.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:40:41 PM UTC-7 michae...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a 
>> few messages from different folks before my post got taken down but 
>> tenere had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted 
>> to check in here to see if anyone knew them? 
>>
>> email address tene...@gmail.com
>>
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[RBW] Re: Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Weirdly... (and I'm looking at you, google groups!) if you type just 
"tenere" into the search, it returns only this thread. But if you add the 
number 746 to the name, another post shows up. 

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:49:44 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> And there was a post back on June 15th when I removed them from the group. 
>
> J
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:46:55 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> That does not ring a bell and if you type "tenere" into the search 
>> window, only your post comes up.  So that's suspicious.  Do not send them 
>> money until you lay out a transfer plan that protects you.  There are 
>> several ways to do that, but it that person is a scammer, they won't agree 
>> to any of them.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 2:40:41 PM UTC-7 michae...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a 
>>> few messages from different folks before my post got taken down but 
>>> tenere had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted 
>>> to check in here to see if anyone knew them? 
>>>
>>> email address tene...@gmail.com
>>>
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Re: [RBW] UPDATE: FS: saddles, seat post, brakeset, and a messenger bag

[Kim H.]

HALF OFF all of the prices shown below  !

On Mon, Jul 1, 2024, 2:27 PM Kim H.  wrote:

> The following is what still available:
>
> I am accepting offers on the following:
>
> Terry Cite X Gel saddle -$30.00
> Terry Cite X Gel Italia saddle - $30.00
> or both for $45.00.
> Excellent condition
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/XktsSZ1Sv3LacQdu6
>
> Avocet seat post 26.8mm - $45.00
> NOS - excellent condition
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/KG6zSJ7r52qDwSNR7
>
> Nitto Technomic stem 25.4 clamp diameter - $40.00
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HpGuKTVUmKDs5e956
> Used in fair condition
>
> Campagnolo Nuovo Record brakeset -  $200.00
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zFZ4tdooKfxMCbUM8
> Used in very good condition with scratches on levers
>
> Ortlieb messenger bag - $75.00
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nC3XN6piVZbEk4s26
> Brand new - received as a gift - never used
>
> Combined shipping costs available
> Pricing does not include shipping in the lower 48 states
> Paypal payment, please.
>
> Any questions, email me.
>
> Kim Hetzel
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[RBW] A general message about Scams, Scammers and recent techniques

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Hey all - 

As I'm sure you are aware, we have had some instances of non-group members 
emailing members who have posted "wanting to buy" or "want to trade" 
listings. These emails often have very good descriptions and contain very 
believable photos.

They have largely been scam attempts. Other group members have recognized 
images that were theirs or belonged to riding partners. These are 
believable attempts and through the excitement of saving a few bucks or 
getting a model which is currently unavailable, it would be very easy to 
fall for the scam. And we do not fall for scams because we are stupid. We 
fall for scams because we are human. 

This is reason I have tightened the bottleneck for new members posting "For 
Sale" items. If you haven't been an active member in any discussion, and 
your first post is a "For Sale" listing, it will not be passed through. (I 
had changed the group description to reflect that a number of weeks back. 
And if you are a new member who wants to post some items for sale, I'm 
happy to be convinced that you are completely legit. Reach out and let's 
talk).

At this point, I am advising anyone who is approached via email to:
- Search the other person's email in the group archives, to see if they 
have a track record of posting. If they have no posts, it's likely a scam.
- Search their email in the group member section, to see if they are 
actually a member. If they are not a member, it's likely a scam. 

If you do choose to proceed with any transaction, you do so at entirely 
your risk. Due diligence and paying with a protected method are always good 
practice. 

And, yes, I do realize that there are a number of folks who have lurked on 
this list for a number of years and may not have ever posted. So, the above 
method is not foolproof. The vast majority of folks in this group are solid 
citizens who act in good faith. I don't want to lose site of that. 

Thanks for your contributions to this group. 

Jim / List Admin


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[RBW] WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Jacob Yosowitz]

I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
my local food co op a few years back, set up with nitto albastache bars and 
I thought what is THAT?! I was enthralled by the lugs, the thin steel road 
like frame rocking fat tires, and the bars. love at first sight!

My current collection includes a lovely purple waterford road bike i 
inherited from my grandpa, he had great taste. I love zipping around on 
that no frills frame. And a '85 schwinn high sierra set up as a commuter. I 
purchased it for touring but find it a bit unstable and wonky geometry for 
long rides. 

I'm ready to bite the bullet and purchase a rivendell. I think id be happy 
on a Sam, I want something with a bit of zip, but still able to load up for 
tours and exploration. I'm only 150lbs so i feel like i could get away with 
a Sam for touring as opposed to one of the heavier more dedicated touring 
models. Would love any input.

My pbh is 86 and I live in Maine right now, but willing to drive some 
distance for the right bike. I'll be in chicago in mid july as well 
visiting family, so can set something up there too.
Side note: I absolutely love the orange colorway on sam frames, thats my 
dream bike! if you have one and are willing to part with it, you'd make me 
a happy camper.

Look forward to hearing from you all! 

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Re: [RBW] Tenere32 tenere...@gmail.com???

[Matthew Williams]

Tenere746 is a known scammer:

https://sprinter-source.com/forums/index.php?threads/132185/

https://www.stopforumspam.com/country/us/11


> On Jul 1, 2024, at 10:53 AM, Michael Moote  wrote:
> 
> Made a post (that was since deleted?) looking for a clem size 52. Got a few 
> messages from different folks before my post got taken down but tenere 
> had a clem in the size I was looking for, photos, etc... but wanted to check 
> in here to see if anyone knew them? 
> 
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Valerie Yates]

Sam is a great choice. Orange Sam especially. Please heed the warnings 
about anyone who contacts you off list with a bike they are purporting to 
sell. 

Best,
Val in Boulder
On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 6:58:34 PM UTC-6 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
> my local food co op a few years back, set up with nitto albastache bars and 
> I thought what is THAT?! I was enthralled by the lugs, the thin steel road 
> like frame rocking fat tires, and the bars. love at first sight!
>
> My current collection includes a lovely purple waterford road bike i 
> inherited from my grandpa, he had great taste. I love zipping around on 
> that no frills frame. And a '85 schwinn high sierra set up as a commuter. I 
> purchased it for touring but find it a bit unstable and wonky geometry for 
> long rides. 
>
> I'm ready to bite the bullet and purchase a rivendell. I think id be happy 
> on a Sam, I want something with a bit of zip, but still able to load up for 
> tours and exploration. I'm only 150lbs so i feel like i could get away with 
> a Sam for touring as opposed to one of the heavier more dedicated touring 
> models. Would love any input.
>
> My pbh is 86 and I live in Maine right now, but willing to drive some 
> distance for the right bike. I'll be in chicago in mid july as well 
> visiting family, so can set something up there too.
> Side note: I absolutely love the orange colorway on sam frames, thats my 
> dream bike! if you have one and are willing to part with it, you'd make me 
> a happy camper.
>
> Look forward to hearing from you all! 
>

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[RBW] Re: A general message about Scams, Scammers and recent techniques

['Peter Bridge' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for your attention and efforts, Jim.  

~pb

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 5:55:16 PM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Hey all - 
>
> As I'm sure you are aware, we have had some instances of non-group members 
> emailing members who have posted "wanting to buy" or "want to trade" 
> listings. These emails often have very good descriptions and contain very 
> believable photos.
>
> They have largely been scam attempts. Other group members have recognized 
> images that were theirs or belonged to riding partners. These are 
> believable attempts and through the excitement of saving a few bucks or 
> getting a model which is currently unavailable, it would be very easy to 
> fall for the scam. And we do not fall for scams because we are stupid. We 
> fall for scams because we are human. 
>
> This is reason I have tightened the bottleneck for new members posting 
> "For Sale" items. If you haven't been an active member in any discussion, 
> and your first post is a "For Sale" listing, it will not be passed through. 
> (I had changed the group description to reflect that a number of weeks 
> back. And if you are a new member who wants to post some items for sale, 
> I'm happy to be convinced that you are completely legit. Reach out and 
> let's talk).
>
> At this point, I am advising anyone who is approached via email to:
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[RBW] Re: NYC based bike campers

[J]

Helmets kids do camp outs in NY. https://www.instagram.com/helmet_kids/? 
I've ridden with that crew a couple times when they came down to southern 
PA for bike gatherings and they were solid. Plenty of Rivendells and Riv 
adjacent bikes amongst them. 

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 4:03:35 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:

> Hi all, 
>
> I recently did a packratters organized bike camp, and realized how much I 
> enjoyed the quiet and being disconnected after a long ride (we went up to 
> Croton).  I've been trying to find other opportunities to do it again, I 
> know about the 718 organized rides (its my local bike shop), but i've also 
> been trying to find a small group to organize semi-informally, both to 
> share the cost of the camp fees but also to have some backup during the 
> ride and onsite.  
>
> Are there folks in this group that do this already that would be open for 
> a singleton to join? Or are there a few people interested in trying to 
> arrange something?  i'm old and slow, and won't stay up all nite drinking 
> beer at the campfire--though I will support you if you do!   If we go to 
> Croton, I know a lady named Susan that bakes great pies, first one is on me!
>
> Minh
> Quickbeam (green, way too many accessories), Park Slope
>
>

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