[RBW] Re: [RBW Stolen Sam Hillborne

2015-09-29 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
I took the decals off of my rivendell quickbeam.  It didn't have the cream 
head tube, so it was just a solid green bike, with only the head badge and 
it didn't look that different from any other older bike out there.

Lots of people asked me how old it was assuming I had repainted an old 
frame.


Sometimes I would see an Atlantis or other riv and even they wouldn't 
notice I was on a quickbeam a lot of the time.


I'm just saying that you can still ride a nice bike in a high crime area 
and keep it just a bit plainer and keep it under the radar.


I didn't have any phil wood hubs or lighting hub dynamo setups or anything 
that would make it stand out.




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> That's one of the saddest things, to me -- she loved the bike, but doesn't 
> want a similar replacement. She's afraid it would be a thug magnet, and has 
> decided to go back to commuting on an old gas pipe Schwinn. It's a shame. 
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> > That is the worst. Actually, it could be way worse, so yay for that, but 
> still... I'm sorry for that. 
> > Give her another awesome bike! Otherwise, the terrorists win, right? 
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[RBW] Re: WTT some rivish parts

2015-09-05 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hi Bill and Greg,
Thanks for your generous offers of a wheel to help me out.  For some reason 
I'm not able to reply to either of you via PM.  I would like to get a wheel 
from either of you perhaps one of you would be willing to PM directly.


thanks.


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> John, 
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> I have an LX rear wheel for you. I'm in Oakland. let's talk. 
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[RBW] Re: WTT some rivish parts

2015-09-05 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hi Greg,
I'm interested.  Will be in oakland today and one other day this week.  I 
tried PM ing you and it may have gone in your spam folder.

I'll try again. 

Thanks.


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[RBW] WTT some rivish parts

2015-08-29 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hi,
I'm in a bit of a financial low point and I just found a giant crack in my 
rear mountain bike rim.  I suppose that I'm very lucky that it didn't fail 
completely.

I use my bike to transport my daughter and I could feel that it was out of 
true, but when I went to put the spoke wrench on it I found the spoke 
pulling through a giant crack.

Yikes.

So, I'm hoping someone out there in the SF bay area might have a decent or 
better rear mountain bike wheel that's a rim brake, 26 135mm o l d that 
they might want to give to me or trade for something.  I'm financially 
tight at the moment, so ideally a trade would be best. (I'm willing to come 
get it or pay for shipping if it's not local)

Ironically I have a brand new 700c velocity dyad wheel with an sturmey S3X  
and 36 spokes that I bought for my rivendell quickbeam (I sold the 
quickbeam a few months ago and have only one bike at the moment.)

It could come with an old patched tube and decent tire (it's a new tire, 
vittoria or something) or not.

I also have 2 nitto stems, one dirt drop and one technomic deluxe that are 
fully functional but definitely a bit scratched up (the dirt drop is more 
scratched up) and a black brooks b-73 mounted on a simple kalloy seat post 
(27.2mm) that is in good to decent shapeperhaps a tiny amount of rust 
on the rails.

I also have an old but fully functional 700c front wheel with 36 spokes and 
I have the front hub only of my quickbeam's stock wheelset.  It's in good 
shape if anyone wants it as a backup or whatever.


I'll also sell any of these items if anyone is interested, make me an 
offer, I'll consider anything.

Thanks.


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Re: [RBW] WTT some rivish parts

2015-08-29 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
I guess I missed giving you the size,   I just measured them from the 
center of the bolt to the center of the handlebar (is that where they are 
measured from).  The nitto technomic deluxe is 3.25 inches.

The dirt drop is 2.75 measured the same way.



On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 8:40:49 AM UTC-7, atomway wrote:

 Hi John. What size are your two stems? (Did I missed it in there?)
 On Aug 29, 2015 7:40 AM, 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm in a bit of a financial low point and I just found a giant crack in 
 my rear mountain bike rim.  I suppose that I'm very lucky that it didn't 
 fail completely.

 I use my bike to transport my daughter and I could feel that it was out 
 of true, but when I went to put the spoke wrench on it I found the spoke 
 pulling through a giant crack.

 Yikes.

 So, I'm hoping someone out there in the SF bay area might have a decent 
 or better rear mountain bike wheel that's a rim brake, 26 135mm o l d that 
 they might want to give to me or trade for something.  I'm financially 
 tight at the moment, so ideally a trade would be best. (I'm willing to come 
 get it or pay for shipping if it's not local)

 Ironically I have a brand new 700c velocity dyad wheel with an sturmey 
 S3X  and 36 spokes that I bought for my rivendell quickbeam (I sold the 
 quickbeam a few months ago and have only one bike at the moment.)

 It could come with an old patched tube and decent tire (it's a new tire, 
 vittoria or something) or not.

 I also have 2 nitto stems, one dirt drop and one technomic deluxe that 
 are fully functional but definitely a bit scratched up (the dirt drop is 
 more scratched up) and a black brooks b-73 mounted on a simple kalloy seat 
 post (27.2mm) that is in good to decent shapeperhaps a tiny amount of 
 rust on the rails.

 I also have an old but fully functional 700c front wheel with 36 spokes 
 and I have the front hub only of my quickbeam's stock wheelset.  It's in 
 good shape if anyone wants it as a backup or whatever.


 I'll also sell any of these items if anyone is interested, make me an 
 offer, I'll consider anything.

 Thanks.


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[RBW] Re: Best Riv for rear child seat?

2015-08-07 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
For years I used a quickbeam with a rear child seat it worked well in the 
smaller gear for most riding.

I alternated it between a trek 620 with gears, for more long distance rides.



When my daughter was younger we used a front mount seat on the trek, I used 
a nitto dirt drop stem to get the bars up higher than normal for that seat.

It was more interactive but she did outgrow it.

The GMG-911 dutch child seat can be put on and removed in seconds from 
fairly standard rear racks and could be switched from bike to bike easily.  


john

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 what frame do you all think would be best for a bike built specifically 
 for this purpose? 

 Hunq, Cheviot? Good old Sam? Clem?

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Cromo Albatross bars

2015-07-07 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have a set.  They are on my bike at the moment, but I've been thinking 
about switching to bosco bars..

so, I cut about an inch off of each end.  otherwise they are great. Is 
that a deal breaker?

If you are still interested let me know, make me an offer?

Where are you located?  I'm in SF.


john

On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 10:49:22 AM UTC-7, Rory Woods wrote:

 Hi all, 

 I'm looking to make my road bike more comfortable and I thought I'd see if 
 anyone had an extra set here before shelling or for new ones. 

 Please PM me if you do. 

 Thanks, 
 Rory 

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[RBW] Re: Bosco/Albatross Aluminum Vs Chromoly

2015-06-29 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks for the responses.  I've always felt like the albatross bars flex 
very slightly and while it never bothered me, if I had a choice I would 
eliminate it.  But not by switching away from the albatross back to 
moustache.

So I've wondered about switching to alba aluminum.  It would seem that 
there would be little difference there, so I'll skip it.   



On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 2:33:47 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I've used both versions of Alba..they feel the same to me. I've also 
 ridden lots of Moustache bars and would agree that they have a stiffer 
 feel, like the steering input from hands to contact patch is more direct. I 
 suspect this is due more to shape/length than material: Albas are wider, 
 with a long reach back to where your hands normally rest. The more space 
 you have between the grip area and stem, the more likely you'll get some 
 flex from that long lever. 

 On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 11:37:05 AM UTC-7, john elliott wrote:

 I’m curious if the aluminum version of the bosco is slightly stiffer 
 feeling than the cromoly bosco or if anyone has experience comparing the 
 aluminum alba to the chromoly albatross bars in terms or stiffness or other 
 factors.

 I have the chromoly albatross bars and before that I had the aluminum 
 moustache bars.  When I switched from moustache to alba I went from 
 aluminum to chromoly and I do feel like the chromoly are a bit flexier.   
 (but I know it’s tubing is slightly bigger sized too) and that may make the 
 difference as opposed to the material change.


 I’m not at all worried about strength differences between these bars, but 
 I liked the feel of the stiffness of the moustache….. 



 Anyone have any thoughts on this?





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[RBW] Bosco/Albatross Aluminum Vs Chromoly

2015-06-27 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
I’m curious if the aluminum version of the bosco is slightly stiffer 
feeling than the cromoly bosco or if anyone has experience comparing the 
aluminum alba to the chromoly albatross bars in terms or stiffness or other 
factors.

I have the chromoly albatross bars and before that I had the aluminum 
moustache bars.  When I switched from moustache to alba I went from 
aluminum to chromoly and I do feel like the chromoly are a bit flexier.   
(but I know it’s tubing is slightly bigger sized too) and that may make the 
difference as opposed to the material change.


I’m not at all worried about strength differences between these bars, but I 
liked the feel of the stiffness of the moustache….. 



Anyone have any thoughts on this?



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Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen Rambouillet UPDATE!

2015-06-24 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Congratulations, Do you know how long until you actually get it?  My car 
was stolen a few weeks ago, and I think I would be way more upset about 
losing my riv. Glad you are so close to getting it back.



john



On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 5:44:44 PM UTC-7, Mark Wilkins wrote:

 Johnny:  Very cool!  I used to work downtown, and would ride this blue 
 Ram to work very often (to the corner of 3rd and Market). 

 For those of you in the Harrisburg area, the guy bought the bike from 
 Hornung's hardware on 2nd St.  I've often noticed the used bikes in 
 front of that store, looking for my own. 

 Still can't believe it...$30!!! 


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  I had no idea that there were other Riv people in the Harrisburg area. 
  I 
  work in downtown Hbg not far from 2nd and Market. I have never seen 
 another 
  Rivendell in downtown Harrisburg. 
  
  Congrats on getting it back!! 
  
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Re: [RBW] Stolen Rambouillet UPDATE!

2015-06-24 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Maybe get another friend there with you.  Or anyone for support.

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 3:14:14 PM UTC-7, Mark Wilkins wrote:

 Seriously, I'm dying here. Waiting. 

 I understand there are more important matters in the city of Harrisburg, 
 but c'mon!

 Sent from my iPhone

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 oh the suspense and excitement of RBW bike retrieval!

 On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 6:05:52 PM UTC-4, Mark Wilkins wrote:

 Waiting for my wife to bring one. Nervous to leave the scene. Several 
 people hanging around. 

 Sent from my iPhone 

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 wrote: 
  
  If you don't have a lock, buy one and do that. 
  
  
  Sent from my iPhone 
  
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  KEEP THE FAITH! 
  
  If you have a lock with you, double lock it with that one! 
  
  On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Mark Wilkins wilkin...@gmail.com 
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  Just spotted my blue ram, stolen in December, locked to a rack in 
 downtown Harrisburg, PA. Waiting for police (1hr so far) 
  
  Can't believe it! 
  
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Re: [RBW] FS Sturmey Archer S3X and other bits

2015-06-20 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Honestly I bought it, and then I did a bunch of single speed riding on my 
quickbeam.  Then I thought I would set it up, so I took the other wheel off 
and started setting up the cable and I think I broke some spokes on my 
other bike, or something distracting, so I put the single speed wheel back 
on the quickbeam.

and began riding it as my commuter again and now it's more than a year 
later and I've never made the time to install it.


I literally never ever tried it.  I think it's a good idea, but just don't 
think I need it.


john

On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 7:18:58 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 John: I'm waiting for a S3X wheel to be built, and I'm curious: what 
 didn't you like about yours?

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 Hi,
 I have a Sturmey Archer S3X that I bought for my Rivendell Quickbeam.  
 Its put together with a Velocity Dyad rim with 36 spokes.  It comes with 
 the bar end shifter and all of the small parts needed except the cable 
 housing.  It was partly mounted but never ridden.  120mm spacing

 If you are in need of a more complete wheelset, I also have a 36 hole 
 vintage but fully functional front wheel that could go with it.  

 Another front wheel option I have is the suzue front hub from my original 
 green quickbeam.  The rim from that wheel needed replacing so I pulled the 
 hub out of the wheel, it's fully functional, but used of course.   I was 
 thinking that it could be built up with a velocity dyad rim and be a match 
 for the S3X on a quickbeam.  (though that's a 32 hole rim).

 I also have a brand new 700 c vittoria tire on the S3X with an old 
 patched tube in it and I have 2 fairly worn out jack brown blue tires that 
 are still somewhat usable that I'm willing to throw in if anyone wants them.

 I also have a nitto technomic deluxe stem that was used for a couple of 
 hundred miles and has a ring around it from its use in the past, but is 
 otherwise just about perfect.

 Maybe $20 for the stem.  $150 for the S3X, and I'll throw in the tube and 
 tire that's on it.  I'll throw in the front wheel too for another $25.

 Thanks



  

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[RBW] FS Sturmey Archer S3X and other bits

2015-06-18 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hi,
I have a Sturmey Archer S3X that I bought for my Rivendell Quickbeam.  Its 
put together with a Velocity Dyad rim with 36 spokes.  It comes with the 
bar end shifter and all of the small parts needed except the cable 
housing.  It was partly mounted but never ridden.  120mm spacing

If you are in need of a more complete wheelset, I also have a 36 hole 
vintage but fully functional front wheel that could go with it.  

Another front wheel option I have is the suzue front hub from my original 
green quickbeam.  The rim from that wheel needed replacing so I pulled the 
hub out of the wheel, it's fully functional, but used of course.   I was 
thinking that it could be built up with a velocity dyad rim and be a match 
for the S3X on a quickbeam.  (though that's a 32 hole rim).

I also have a brand new 700 c vittoria tire on the S3X with an old patched 
tube in it and I have 2 fairly worn out jack brown blue tires that are 
still somewhat usable that I'm willing to throw in if anyone wants them.

I also have a nitto technomic deluxe stem that was used for a couple of 
hundred miles and has a ring around it from its use in the past, but is 
otherwise just about perfect.

Maybe $20 for the stem.  $150 for the S3X, and I'll throw in the tube and 
tire that's on it.  I'll throw in the front wheel too for another $25.

Thanks



 

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[RBW] Re: Brooks Saddle Repair - Broken Tension Shackle

2015-05-01 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hi Sean,

I'm just a home mechanic, and I've done it.  It really wasn't that hard.  I 
replaced the entire leather top with some saddle leather that I cut and 
shaped and it's worked out really well.

I put it together with brass screws and nuts and honestly it's worked great 
for 6 months like that, but I bought the copper rivets (which come in a box 
of 100 or more)   I always intended to finish with the rivets.   I don't 
think that's the hardest part, I've just been busy and it's so comfortable 
that I don't want to stop using it.

In fact if you feel overwhelmed I might be willing to do it with you or for 
you...if you are in the bay area.


did the bolt brake?  if the leather is still attached well to the nose 
piece you might be able to replace the bolt without removing all the rivets.

Do you have photos of the problem.?


john




On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 4:48:49 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:

 As I was heading out the door for my bike ride yesterday afternoon I 
 realized that there was a problem with my much loved Brooks Swift 
 (titanium) saddle.  I put my hand on the top of the saddle and noticed an 
 unusual amount of flex.  Upon closer inspection, it was obvious that 
 something was wrong.  It turns out that part of the tension shackle, the 
 part that connects the nose of the saddle to the saddle frame, had broken.  
 Bummer.  

 The saddle has at least 12,000 miles, and the leather is in great shape, 
 so I want to have this problem fixed.  A new tension shackle can be 
 obtained very inexpensively (only $3.50 for the chromed steel version).  
 However, as I have never carried out this repair, I am looking for some 
 guidance / encouragement / advice.  A quick internet search turned up a few 
 good tidbits, but I'm hoping for some help here from the experts.  Is this 
 a relatively easy repair that a mechanic with limited skills can complete 
 or would I be much better off shipping the saddle to a qualified repair 
 expert?

 If this is not a home mechanic job, I would appreciate advice on where to 
 have it fixed - ideally in the USA.

 Thanks,
 Sean


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[RBW] Re: FS Quickbeam 54cm

2015-04-25 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Almost everyone who was interested in this wanted just the frame and 
forks... so, 

Frame forks and headset for $600.  If you want the wheelset, I'll sell that 
separately for $100 with the very worn jack brown blues.  The S3X wheel is 
going for $150, even though it's brand new.  It includes the cable and bar 
end shifter and other bits that came with it, but no cog.  



Thanks.



On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 12:08:44 PM UTC-8, john elliott wrote:

 Hi,
 After careful deliberation I am deciding to offer my Quickbeam for sale.  
 It's one of the green one's.  54 cm.  I bought it new as a frame and fork, 
 but it's pretty close to stock.  It has a set of stock quickbeam wheels 
 that I bought from someone who modified their quickbeam to 650b.

 It has a phil wood bottom bracket that was rebuilt at phil wood just 
 before I installed it.  At the moment it has an old no name saddle as Ive 
 been working on recovering the brooks saddle that was on it.  I could 
 include the brooks if anyone is interested in a recovered saddle.

 The handlebar is an albatross bar that is flipped upside down and with 
 about an inch cut off the ends.  Nitto dirt drop stem.   The seat post is 
 decent, off an older 80's vintage trek.  Pedals are shimano, the ones that 
 are spd on one side and standard cage pedal on the other side.

 It has a rear rack and fenders (the back one has about 6 inches cut off, 
 to facilitate wheel removal.)


 I've committed the sin of removing the decals as well.  I'm taking it in 
 tomorrow to get it tuned up and cleaned up a bit and I'll post more photos 
 as soon as it gets back.


 It does have a few nicks in the paint, but nothing more than that.  I'm 
 thinking between $1000-1200 ish but I am open to offers.  If no one is 
 interested I'll probably list it on craigslist in a week or two.

 I live in San Francisco and I would prefer to sell to someone in the 
 region, but I wouldn't completely rule out shipping for the right situation.

 Thanks


 PS:  I also have an sturmey archer S3X wheel that is not on the bike.  I 
 honestly never used it or set it up, but I do have the bar end shifter, 
 cable and other bits.   The rim is a velocity dyad if that makes any 
 difference.This could go with the bike, or perhaps be sold separately 
 depending on interest.




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[RBW] Re: FS Quickbeam 54cm

2015-03-21 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Anyone want to make an offer on this bike.  I'm ready to consider shipping 
it or selling just the frame and forks for those who've asked me that in 
the past.

Thanks.



On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 12:08:44 PM UTC-8, john elliott wrote:

 Hi,
 After careful deliberation I am deciding to offer my Quickbeam for sale.  
 It's one of the green one's.  54 cm.  I bought it new as a frame and fork, 
 but it's pretty close to stock.  It has a set of stock quickbeam wheels 
 that I bought from someone who modified their quickbeam to 650b.

 It has a phil wood bottom bracket that was rebuilt at phil wood just 
 before I installed it.  At the moment it has an old no name saddle as Ive 
 been working on recovering the brooks saddle that was on it.  I could 
 include the brooks if anyone is interested in a recovered saddle.

 The handlebar is an albatross bar that is flipped upside down and with 
 about an inch cut off the ends.  Nitto dirt drop stem.   The seat post is 
 decent, off an older 80's vintage trek.  Pedals are shimano, the ones that 
 are spd on one side and standard cage pedal on the other side.

 It has a rear rack and fenders (the rear fender has about 6 inches cut 
 off, to facilitate wheel removal.)


 I've committed the sin of removing the decals as well.  I'm taking it in 
 tomorrow to get it tuned up and cleaned up a bit and I'll post more photos 
 as soon as it gets back.


 It does have a few nicks in the paint, but nothing more than that.  I'm 
 thinking between $1000-1200 ish but I am open to offers.  If no one is 
 interested I'll probably list it on craigslist in a week or two.

 I live in San Francisco and I would prefer to sell to someone in the 
 region, but I wouldn't completely rule out shipping for the right situation.

 Thanks


 PS:  I also have an sturmey archer S3X wheel that is not on the bike.  I 
 honestly never used it or set it up, but I do have the bar end shifter, 
 cable and other bits.   The rim is a velocity dyad if that makes any 
 difference.This could go with the bike, or perhaps be sold separately 
 depending on interest.




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[RBW] Re: Flipped Albatross

2015-03-19 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have 2 bikes set up this way.  I don't have an albastache to compare it 
to, but I do like it.  I also use road brake levers on the bars.

I've heard of it multiple times on the internet as well. though I'm not 
sure that's very helpful information.



On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 7:22:40 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:

 I have been wanting to change out the cockpit from the Albatross that came 
 with the bike to an Albastache.  I used to have a Mustache bar and loved 
 it.  Unfortunately, the discretionary funds are not there right now (home 
 repairs, etc).  As a temporary measure, I thought about flipping the 
 Albatross bar over to see if I could get in the ballpark.  Was hoping to 
 squeeze in a summer of Albastache-ish riding before having to plunk down 
 the money for a real setup since bars, levers and stem come to over $200.  
 My initial measurements indicate that the drop would be about an inch lower 
 (similar to the old mustache bars I used to have) and the handles would 
 come back about an extra inch (potential problem with bar ends and knees). 

 Has anyone ever tried this?  If so, please let me know if it is a 
 reasonable alternative or just a big waste of time.

 Thanks,
 John


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[RBW] Re: FS Riv ish Trek 620, 1985 blue with long chainstays. $400

2015-03-03 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
This bike is sold, thanks.




On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 9:14:54 AM UTC-8, john elliott wrote:

 I've had this blue trek 620 for a while, it's been my daily rider for at 
 least the last year.$400.

 It's got quite a few nicks in the paint, but no dings or dents.  It 
 doesn't have a front derailleur, just a 7 speed on the rear)

 700c velocity dyad rims laced to older rebuilt high flange hubs. 
 (converted from the original 27 wheels)

 It has a recovered brooks saddle on it, that I would prefer to keep.


 Let me know if you have any questions.




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[RBW] Brooks Saddle Leather replacement

2015-03-01 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
Has anyone on this list ever replaced the leather on a brooks saddle.  I'm 
riding on a 90 percent finished recovered saddle.  I haven't finished the 
final trim and it's installed with brass bolts and nuts instead of rivets.  
It turned out better than expected in terms of comfort.  I haven't finished 
it because I cannot live with my other seat for even a few days.

I'm about to put in the rivets, but I'm not sure what to use for the back 
of the rivets to give them the right shape.  Maybe another hammer...

any thoughts would be appreciated.


PS:  Anyone have a brooks with trashed leather they want to donate?


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[RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-26 Thread 'john elliott' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've never cooked with one of these bottles, but if I make a coffee and 
fill my insulated bottle up to the top and seal it, I have good luck with 
it being hot for a long time.  At least 8 hours, and if you don't drink 
half of it, I think it lasts longer.   It would be at least warm the next 
morning.

They work great on hot days too.  I throw a few ice cubes in and they are 
still banging around in there on a hot day hours later.  I can usually 
refill from my uninsulated bottle and reuse the ice.

On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 7:08:39 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 What is your experience with insulated/uninsulated Klean Kanteen bottles. 
 Has anyone used the insulated as a camping mug? Used the single-walled one 
 as your water boiling pot? Carried a 40 or 64 oz one in the velcro on/Irish 
 strap secured cage manner?

 More details:

 I am now converting to using Klean Kanteen bottles (from the “glass” lined 
 things Specialized makes) after 2/3rd of my bottles popped out of my 
 standard cages last fall and I need to replace then anyway, as well as 
 hearing the reports from folks here of how much better Iris cages hold 
 bottles on trails, washboard, etc.

 Between insulated and single-walled, and the larger bottles there seem to 
 be some great options for various uses., I’m thinking:

 (1) insulated 20 oz. bottle: mostly to help keep things cool in summer (I 
 drink very little when it’s below freezing, and so seldom that it would be 
 frozen anyway on a longer ride, without being inside my jacket. Also as my 
 coffee/tea mug when bikepacking.

 (2) uninsulated 28 oz. bottle: for daily ride increased volume of 
 capacity, and for boiling water over the firebox when bikepacking.

 (1) uninsulated 40 or 64 oz. with velcro on cage using Irish straps to 
 secure it for bikepacking and extra water capacity. Suggestions on wear to 
 strap this beastie?

 On the Hunqapillar, this gives me up to 76 oz. for daily rides, 140 oz. 
 capacity for bikepacking (plus a 100 oz bladder if needed, but it’s hard to 
 use and tastes plasticy.)

 Thoughts, suggestions?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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