Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset/BB question

[Andrew MacDonald]

I second the disclaimer to check for washer prior to using crank puller.

-Andrew

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 2:32 PM Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> Also, check to make sure there's no crank bolt washer before you put on
> the crank puller!
>
> good luck,
> shoji
> Arlington MA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 3:48:29 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I enumerated a list of tools, omitting the most critical one.
>>
>> Learning any mechanical manuever is a LOT easier with the bike held in a
>> proper mechanic's work stand.  Every single is a LOT harder doing it on the
>> ground or with the bike upside down.  The work stand is the barrier.  There
>> is not a mechanic on earth who would prefer working on a bike without a
>> work stand.  It's possible to get it done, but it's always harder.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:24 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Generally speaking, anybody who wants to do new mechanical maneuvers,
>>> and has the will to purchase the right tools, by all means go for it.
>>>
>>> To swap out your crank set without swapping the BB, what you need are:
>>>
>>> -pedal wrench
>>> -whatever wrench you need for your crank bolts: Long 8mm allen, 14mm
>>> socket, maybe both
>>> -crank puller, and maybe an adjustable wrench to drive your crank puller
>>>
>>> Assuming you have all the above, absolutely pull your crank off and test
>>> fit the VO.  To measure the length of the existing BB a cheap caliper would
>>> be useful.  If your existing BB is "too short" your small ring will hit the
>>> frame and if you crank down the crank bolt AFTER you've already crashed
>>> your ring into the chain stay, then you'll do real damage.  Aside from
>>> that, any clearance is enough clearance, but crazy close, like 1mm would be
>>> a concern for many.  3mm is ample.
>>>
>>> Once you have clearance, it's up to you to worry about chain line.  In
>>> some narrow Q applications the front derailleur throw can be an issue.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:07:21 AM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 A while back I posted about low q, low-range cranks for my Hillborne.

 I just ordered one of the VO 46/30s, which seems like a good option at
 the price. I'll use the stock rings first, then tweak them down the road.

 A few questions - I'm going to try the install myself--I think--and
 this is my first attempt.

 I understand that the VO 46/30 is supposed to be paired with a 118mm
 BB. I have read on here of folks using shorter spindles. I currently have
 either a 113 or 115mm on the Hillborne. I'm assuming the only way to know
 is to remove the cranks and measure? Has anyone here tried a shorter
 spindle on their Hillborne with the VO cranks?

 My question - Should I try simply swapping cranks and see how the VO
 cranks do at 115/113mm? If so, what would I be watching for to suggest a
 problem? OR is this a dumb way to start tinkering with cranks? And if so,
 any thoughts on swapping BB vs taking it a shop? (I have great shops
 nearby, but like to gradually learn a few things every so often.)

 Thanks!

 Adam

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[RBW] Re: HELP: My wife stole my Platypus

[Andrew MacDonald]

Interesting! Thanks Nick. And cool Atlantis.  Do you by chance know which
era it is from? I had one that I believe was a 2003 Toyo that did not have
the s-curves.

-Andrew

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024, Old And In The Weeds <
oldandinthewe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, this era of Atlantii had gentle s-curved chainstays. Here is mine in
> the same size (attached).
>
> Nick
>
> On Monday, January 22, 2024, Drurad (Sacramento)  wrote:
>
>> Still in search.  Had a close call on a 56 Atlantis that actually turned
>> out to be a 53.  And Vernon found his Hunq a new home (congrats to the new
>> owner).  I am now looking at a 56 on Facebook Marketplace.  Pretty far from
>> home, but maybe I could swing it.  Quick question: Can someone look at the
>> pics and tell me what's going on with the chainstay near the dropout.  It
>> looks kinda curvy to me.  I can't tell if my eyes are playing trick on me.
>> I read that some of the Toyo Atlantis models had curvy chainstays.  I had a
>> 58 once and it did have a pretty serious curve near the crank to allow for
>> more tire clearance with a shorter chainstay (downside was that it was hard
>> to fit a double crank without a super long BB).  I have never seen this
>> other curve near the dropouts.  What do you all think?
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1271004613561351/?
>> referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner&referralCode=messenger_banner
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 10:05:02 PM UTC-8 Drurad (Sacramento)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's incredible marriage advice! Happy wife, happy bike, happy life.
>>> Hubbuhubbuh for the win.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 6:53 AM mgst...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Marriage counseling is mandatory, and the directive = get a
 hubbuhubbuh, or you might want to call it a double platypus.
 [image: Results for- bikes - 1 of 1.jpeg]

 On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 10:57:43 AM UTC-5 Drurad (Sacramento)
 wrote:

> I recently found a new home for my 60 Cheviot (wonderful guy: J Imler
> - see his post:
>
>  https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/9F0fvENp3i8/
> m/vyhQlH8DBAAJ
>
> I then found a Platypus that was more in my size range:
>
> [image: F5697369-C0A5-48C8-971D-078D405FB04F.jpeg]
>
> However, as soon as my wife laid eyes on it, it was no longer mine.
> She has decided to steal my Platypus and give up her 51 Sam (I will list 
> FS
> her tuxedo Sam on the list soon).
>
> This point of friction in our marriage can only be remedied in one way
> - by me getting a new bike.
>
> So, I am in search of a new bike.  And I have set my ambitions high on
> this one.  I am reaching out to see if anyone has one of the following
> bikes (frameset preferred) that they would be willing to part with:
>
> 1. Hunq - 54
> 2. Atlantis - Toyo/Waterford - 56
> 3. Another Riv that shares a family resemblance with either of these
> two.
>
> Not only would it go to a good home, but you would be saving an
> otherwise good marriage.
>
> Happy Trails,
>
> Andrew
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[RBW] Re: Just Pics from Your Good Ride Thread

[Andrew MacDonald]

I have an Atlantis with a basket but haven’t been on the trail since last 
Monday. My gf and good friend both have Hillbornes, one black the other sage. 
See you out there sometime. 

-Andrew

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[RBW] WTT: 51 Sam (MIT: Black) for 54.5 Homer or Equivalent

[Andrew MacDonald]

Hey Everyone, 

I'm testing the waters to see if anyone would be interested in a trade. 
 The 51 Sam is just a smidge small.  I am looking to keep the same wheelset 
so something slightly larger with 650b and clearance for 40+mm tires.  I 
can send photos of frame, etc by request.  The frame is still in good 
condition maybe some knicks here and there.  I am in Northern California 
and would prefer not to spend money on shipping.  Let me know if you are 
interested.  

Best,

Andrew

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Re: [RBW] Re: BB Size? TOYO Atlantis

[Andrew MacDonald]

Excellent!  Thanks for the info.  Serial # AT00951.

-Andrew

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 3:35 PM dougP  wrote:

> Andrew:
>
> My 58 cm came with a 115 (maybe 116?) BB in 2003, and it worked fine.
> When it finally conked out, I went 110 & there it was a close fit, but
> worked.  After that one died, I went with a 113 mm, which gives comfortable
> clearance with the chainstay.  The crankset has always been the Sugino
> triple that came with the bike (24 tooth inner ring).
>
> The Atlantis has had some subtle changes over the years, but Gabriel's
> experience with an '07 & my experience with an '03 show that various BB
> lengths work.  Do you know what year yours is?  Or what the serial number
> is?  The serial number on mine is AT 00519.
>
> dougP
>
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 1:36:37 PM UTC-8, AMAC wrote:
>>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> I have some new wheels coming in and will likely be able to setup my
>> Atlantis very soon.  I wondered if anyone could offer some advice on BB
>> sizing?  I imagine someone will have a similar setup.  The frame is a 58"
>> (bought from the group a few months back) and I plan to switch over a
>> Sugino XD-600 triple I have from another bike.  I believe the inner ring is
>> 24t.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: 650B wheelset $145, Schwalbe G-1 Speed $95, 55cm Albatross bars, $62

[Andrew MacDonald]

PM sent

On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 8:16 PM Mark Roland 
wrote:

> Prices do not include shipping.
>
> Alex DM18 650B wheelset, take off, less than 100 miles. These have the
> cool colored spoke nipples. 100/135, 8-10sp. Similar to these wheels on Riv
> for $310, but with different hubs (marked CLEM). $145.
>
> Schwalbe G-One Speed, 650B x 60. Less than 100 miles. $95 pair.
>
> 55cm Heat-treated Albatross bars, low mileage, VGC. $62.
>
> As is the custom, please contact me off-list. Thank you.
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Big Front Rack and Acorn M/L Saddle Bag

[Andrew MacDonald]

Hey. I’d be down to put the front rack to use. How much you think shipping
might be to Los Angeles?

-Andrew

On Tuesday, October 15, 2019, Birdman  wrote:

> Hey Bunch,
>
> I’m selling a Nitto Big Front Rack 34f in great condition with clamps.
> There are a few marks from where the basket was attached, but no scrapes or
> dents. $125 plus shipping.
>
> I also have a practically brand new Acorn M/L saddlebag that I bought last
> month. It’s a great bag (no thigh rub or swaying), but I need something
> bigger. It’s been on 4 or 5 rides. $90 plus shipping.
>
> A couple of photos below. PM me for more.
>
> Best,
>
> Isaac in Portland, OR
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Quill 130+

[Andrew MacDonald]

Hey Everyone.  Finally managed to get myself a Riv.  Got lucky and grabbed 
the recent Hillborne demo bike.  Since I'm between sizes on the Hillborne 
frame I'm trying to make my 51 fit like something closer to a 53-54.  I've 
switched to Albatross bars and am currently running a 12 cm. Nitto stem.  I 
want to try something with a tad more reach.  I've seen Nitto makes a 13 
cm. Technomic and possibly made a 14 cm. Pearl a while back.  If anyone has 
one these laying around I would love to give either a try.  Please let me 
know.  I could buy or have a few things to trade if interested (noodle, a 
smaller noodle-esque bar from Blue Lug, my 12 cm. stem, etc.).  

Many Thanks,

Andrew

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