Re: [RBW] Brave, Foolish, or maybe necessary?
I totally agree. We've, here in Louisville on our local bicycle club list, have had the same discussion. It's amazing how many people commute with little or poor lighting. A few weeks ago a commuter was killed. The young man was riding in the outside lane on a busy boulevard early in the morning (dark) wearing dark non-reflective clothing with a tinny rear light and no front light. The motorist stated she did not see him until it was too late to avoid him. It's tragic and he, as a cyclist, had a right to be on the road but Bill In a message dated 12/10/2010 8:00:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mhech...@gmail.com writes: I live in northern VT, one ride below the nth parallel. I'm 6 miles down the road to the nearest shops and services. Sunset, this time of year is around 4:30 and until the big lakes freeze over, the weather tends to be cloudy and snowy. With the moon in its last quarter its very dark, very early. It has snowed slowly and steadily through the week, leaving about 15 of snow cover and the road shoulders with an inch or two of packed and loose snow. The skies started to clear a bit yesterday and the temps dropped , +14 at sundown and -10 by sunrise this morning. I headed into town at 5:00, in my car and drove down an unlit country road, passing a nearly steady stream of commuters headed home up the road. Suddenly I saw a very bright bicycle light coming up the road. As I passed him (her?) I saw that the tail light was just avgas. My first thought was, wow that takes some guts, but my second thought was that's more risk than I would ever want to take on a bicycle, and my third thought was I don't mind riding in the dark; I don't mind riding in the cold; and I don't mind riding in the wet. But that much cold, dark, wet and risk all at the same time is something I wouldn't choose to do, unless it was absolutely necessary. What do you think? Michael on a gloriously beautiful morning -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goggle Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bow-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy, according to BQ
At last, a voice of reason! In a message dated 12/10/2010 4:21:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, montclairbob...@gmail.com writes: With some exceptions (like life-threatening high-speed wobs, no thanks)... maybe it's time we just embrace the shimmy... it could just be our bikes telling us: Slow the F down... Put your damn hands back on the bars Get a trailer if you wanna haul sh** Turn off that awful music on your iPod, it's giving me the shimmies Get me some decent tires and a nice headset, you cheapskate Don't worry about it... It's what makes me ride so nicely at all other times I fully expect to discover a shimmy in my Bomba (at some point)... I'll try not to freak out... Happy Friday, everyone... I'm ready to shimmy myself... Peace, BB On Dec 10, 3:12 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Mike This is part of the voodoo feel to the whole thing. You can find an article that says knobbies damp out shimmy. You can find another that says knobbies supply the excitation force for shimmy. You can find another article that states that wide tires like knobbies are typically more compliant and therefore enable low frequency oscillations to be amplified by the system. My first few experiments are going to be: 1. Baseline the bike. Log initial condition of all independent variables that I might change. Attempt to measure the frequency and amplitude of the shimmy 2. Vary front tire pressure and ride. Note changes 3. Vary rear tire pressure and ride. Note changes 4. take reference weight (like maybe two full water bottles) and put them at various locations on the system and note any changes A. On front rack B. In H2O cages C. In jersey pocket D. On rear rack E. maybe elsewhere 5. Change tires 6. Change front wheel 7. Change rear wheel 8. Tighten headset or similarly damp steering 9. Load rear end heavily 10. Load front end heavily On Dec 10, 11:44 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Funny, Bill, that you say your Hillborne shimmied. The one I had (now sold) was the most stable bike I've ever ridden with no hands in my life. I could have had a 3 course dinner while riding and not even think about touching the bars. I had the standard Riv supplied Tange headset and even with Schwalbe Smart Sams ( a knobbie tire) it was smooth as glass. The replacement bike, a used Ram, is not as stable, but is more like other bikes I've had. Neither bike has any shimmy at all. I did own, for a while, a Cotic Roadrat , but that baby was shimmy city and was sold quickly. On that bike a headset change quieted it as did a tire switch. But I could not get rid of it. I even think the size and shape of the rider could influence it dynamically as much as bike geometry and even things like tire tread pattern. As others have mentioned above, shimmy is a complex set of factors, and due to system (bike/rider) to system variation it can affect one of identical bikes and not the other. ~Mike~ On Dec 10, 11:18 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Allan, thanks for that suggestion. On Dec 10, 11:10 am, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote: BTW, there's the Bicycle Quarterly Reader's Review list,http://groups.google.com/group/bqrr, that was created as a venue for precisely these types of discussions. Not saying you can't discuss the mag anywhere you please, just saying we'd really appreciate the discussion there. :-) Carry on, -Allan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?
Very nice! Start making more and expect a call from Riv headquarters any minute now, In a message dated 12/5/2010 10:35:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tapebu...@gmail.com writes: This is a tangent related to my Hilsen. It was my 7-year-old's birthday party at the pottery studio. Everybody picked a pre-made pottery piece and painted it. I made an A. Homer Hilsen coffee cup. I think it turned out pretty slick. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/sets/72157625538744828/ On Dec 5, 7:09 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: .8/.5/.8 was what they used on Toyo Rams for TT and DT. Isn't Rodeo a tad lighter? From: cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 9:00:45 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts? Yeah, I just don't remember, but thought they were the same tubing...??? On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: According to one member of our club (he may chime in here), the Roadeo he has now is built lighter than the Ram he once owned. I believe that Homer would be heavier than either. Bill On Dec 5, 5:07 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that the Roadeo has lighter tubing? I thought at some point the discussion was that they both are built with 8-5-8 maintubes. nch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?
Good point. The Rambouillet is a fine bike. It was my first experience with steel lugged bikes and got it initially with the intention of using it as my country bike and using my Litespeed Vortex (6-4 ti) as my go fast bike. I quickly discovered that I was just as fast and more comfortable on the Rambouillet. Without really trying I've gotten the Rambouillet down to 19 pounds...and most importantly, it has a nicer color scheme, prettier head badge, and not a goofy name like the Roadeo (no offence). Oh, I also have the Hilsen and the Rambouillet is faster but Homer is set up for randonneuring. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 12/5/2010 6:39:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, skvi...@gmail.com writes: Not to suggest you not buy a new bike b/c new bikes are fun - but there are 2 or 3 58cm rambouillets running around on craigslist/ebay iirc. Why not pick up one of those and see if that's what you're looking for? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 2005 Rambouillet Blue 60cm Excellent Cond.
Sounds like someone owes someone an apology.
In a message dated 12/2/2010 11:37:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ianet...@yahoo.com writes:
you sold if for $800, and it includes new brakes, nitto crystal fellow
seatpost and i upgraded it with a new record headset. i think that's
fair.
you took some damn good photos.
On Dec 2, 9:56 pm, Ian Dickson iandicks...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey mr.trout, will you take $750?
On Dec 2, 6:05 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
busted!
Jumping to conclusions?
On Dec 2, 6:33 pm, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, the frame that I sold to you several months ago for $250 less.
In
fact, you even used my photos. Yes, that's my back yard,
resplendent
in the summer sunshine. And, yes, that's my Keen-clad left shoe in
the photo as well.
Classy.
On Nov 30, 4:13 pm, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote:
$1000 asking price plus shipping. Toyo built. There are a few small
nicks in the paint. I would consider the paint a 9 out of 10 if
not a
9.5. No dents or scratches. It has a fresh coat of framesaver
applied.
Comes with record headset, tektro long reach brakes and crystal
fellow
seatpost. Will include 10 speed veloce group for $300, the group
is a
mix of old and new parts (new 2011 shifters and fd). Race gearing
with
172.5 cranks.
photos can be found
here.http://www.flickr.com/photos/69516...@n00/
thanks
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?
Now, that's the spirit! May I use you as a reference to my wife? Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 11/29/2010 12:07:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, fbr...@jwperry.com writes: Build My Goodrich when it arrives. Maybe build my Kogswell P/R. Maybe reconfigure my Riv. Maybe do an overhaul on my 76 Schwinn Paramount. Maybe sell a bike or two so I can buy something else I don't need but seem to think I should have. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Last Minute Decision to Ride the Headlands
It's nice to know that somewhere in the world the sun does shine. 65 and rainy in Kentucky. Got the fenders on the Quickbeam yesterday and it's a good day to try out the new Showers Pass rain jacket. Happy turkey day, everyone! Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 11/24/2010 10:31:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, r.sh...@sbcglobal.net writes: I was riding home from work on my Bleriot, riding along Crissey Field in the Presidio on an absolutely spectacular day. I happened to glance across the way to the Marin Headlands and all of a sudden just decided to ride on up there. I was dressed in my office attire, had no water, and wasn't prepared for chilly winds (those never developed on this pristine day), but instead of turning left for home, I turned right , crossed the Golden Gate Bridge, then to the top of the Headlands. Great and wonderful ride. Sorry about the poor quality photos. All I had with me was an iPhone. http://www.flickr.com/photos/8581...@n03/sets/72157625338137707/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Looking for an All Rounder frame
Kevin, You may want to mention what size you're looking for. Bill In a message dated 8/10/2010 6:41:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lindsey.ke...@gmail.com writes: Greetings. As an utter newbie here - heck, I don't even own a Rivendell - this may be an inappropriate posting. If so, please forgive my ignorance. I'm looking to buy an All Rounder frame for restoration and rebuild. Due to genetic laziness and a bit of procrastination, I just yesterday missed buying the perfect AR frame from a seller on Craigslist. Very frustrating. If anyone out there has such a frame (or whole bike) or knows where one might be found, please let me know. All the best, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet
Same here. Love my Rambouillet. If only it were a 56. Bill In a message dated 8/4/2010 7:36:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mhech...@gmail.com writes: Very nice, if it was my size I'd bid on it. The Ram is a great road bike; I love the way mine rides. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] snotty responce
I think that may have already occurred. Bill Kentucky (The birthplace of both good and bad bourbon) In a message dated 7/19/2010 2:34:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: and drink 4 oz of good bourbon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: brass fenders on orange Hillborne? thumbs up or down?
Yes, I agree and they would certainly not look good on an orange frame. I would say go with silver fenders. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:20:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net writes: Found this somewhere... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7568778/green%20Sam%20with%20brass.jpg For reference. To me, this looks ok but surprisingly not great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Brand V Bags
You're right, it's never going to hold a load like a buckle system. Guess I should have thought of that before I purchased it. I used the simple solution when the failure occurred on two separate occasions. It was not a major problem - only one side would come loose - but it's not something I should have to be concerned about on a brevet and it's certainly going to stop me from attempting to put anything heavy into it. The simple solution that I now use - and it works - is to use my older Kevin's Bag. Guess I'll stick with my original strong statement. Bill In a message dated 6/11/2010 12:19:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, joer...@gmail.com writes: It's hook loop, it's never going to hold a load like metal or plastic buckles. The procedure described above seems like a simple solution. The seat bag sucks is a little strong, IMO. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Brand V Bags
Can't comment on the Boxy bag but the seat bag sucks. On two occasions on brevets the Velcro fasteners opened and the bag was not even fully loaded. Even when it has the basics (tubes, tire irons, basic tools, etc., it sort of hangs there. It is certainly not of the quality of the original Kevin's bag. I would not buy it (again). Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 6/10/2010 8:56:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, brdg...@gmail.com writes: Just saw the back-in-stock-n-redesigned Brand V Boxy Bag and Seat Bag. I really love the size and functionality of the seat bag. It seems small but holds a ton. Looks like some nice improvements in the Boxy particularly. Anyone want to buy a barely-used older version. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rapha has love for Rivendell
Are you kidding? The whole Homer Hilsen hype with the epic poem and everything? It was brilliant! Unfortunately, whoever came up with that campaign, wasn't there for the Roadeo or later models. In a message dated 6/3/2010 8:30:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, adventureco...@gmail.com writes: It doesn't appear to me that Rivendell has a marketing strategy, other than running small ads in Bicycle Quarterly and Adventure Cyclist... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Cork, Tape, and Shellac
I really like what you've done with the rear fender. Think I'll do it to the Quickbeam since I'm really not concerned about people behind me - just concerned about keeping the bike clean (it's not that I'm a bad person, I just don't use the 'beamer for group rides). I'm assuming it's effective? Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 5/16/2010 10:07:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Blindrobert _roberto.cipri...@gmail.com_ (mailto:roberto.cipri...@gmail.com) wrote: I just wanted to say that I tried this and I am very pleased with the results, after a year of use. I followed the instructions on the Riv site and it worked out perfectly. I have to say that it looks better after time than any cork or synthetic tape I have used. The bike is Frances Cycles custom fixtonneur that I had made, sizing is in the Riv/Grant philosophy (it rides big and I like it that way) - this is my city bike/commuter now. I love it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Installing Fenders Question
What vintage would work best? Domestic, Italian, German, Chilean? Man, this is harder than I thought. In a message dated 5/12/2010 8:43:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fbr...@jwperry.com writes: René has spelled it out. I personally have more concern for the wine drinking than fender lines, but either way it works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam
I agree with Kent, who agrees with that guy from Belgium who said: Ride more. Bill In a message dated 4/28/2010 7:34:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mjawn...@gmail.com writes: Don't train, practice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam
No, but let me give you a hint : EM, and just to make it easier and cut the possibilities in half: Mr. EM. In a message dated 4/28/2010 8:48:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, eddie.fla...@att.net writes: do you mean the famous Belgian, Fabiano Ridemore? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet white out!
Well, since you ask. Hate the white tape but love the Acorn bag. Bill (who loves his green Rambouillet but thinks the orange Ram was the prettiest and used to live in East Lansing) In a message dated 3/31/2010 7:40:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu writes: Did a little redecorating on the Rambly--wonder what that bartape will look like after a few hundred miles? A shot on the shores of Lake Lansing, prettiest dredged out swamp you ever saw. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2710/4479756577_b96d66d7e0_b.jpg Got the tan Acorn bag and white Regal from a coupla Riv-listers--how do they look, guys? Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] roadeo, first ride
Any idea how much it weighs, Don? In a message dated 3/4/2010 7:33:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net writes: i rode my new roadeo on its maiden voyage. just a super bike. 40mi., rolling hills around plymouth, ca. build as follows: 59cm roadeo, mary's blue campy chorus aluminum 10spd brifters, centaur derailleurs nitto pearl stem, 44 noodles, nitto stainless bottle cages shimano ultegra headset and r600 brakeset thomson seatpost with brooks b-17ti saddle ta zephyr crankset, 50-34, philwood bb record hubs, velocity aero and aero oc silver rims, 12-25 chorus cassette 700x28 grand bois cerf tires(75lbs front, 85lbs rear) sincerely, don -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
Maybe, but 99.999% is probably a lot closer to the truth than 45%. Bill In a message dated 2/27/2010 10:57:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cyclotour...@gmail.com writes: Well there ya' go. It's like being in high school! On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Horace _max...@sdf.lonestar.org_ (mailto:max...@sdf.lonestar.org) wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:42 PM, cyclotourist _cyclotour...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cyclotour...@gmail.com) wrote: That means we (Rivendellians/ibobs/retrogrouches) don't interest 45% of the population. Not true! We don't interest 99.999% of the population. :-) LOL. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet's Ancestor
Yea, hard to believe that having to reach down between your legs to shift isn't still with us today. Bill Louisville In a message dated 2/26/2010 11:30:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, joelmatth...@mac.com writes: It is a pretty neat concept. Wonder what using it involved. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness
Careful, Grant may use it for the name of the next new bike (Waterford, USA built, of course). Bill In a message dated 2/12/2010 11:10:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jgr...@papagrant.com writes: Makes buying American look more and more econopatriotic. Yup, just made that up. Feel free to use it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Reading Chairs
The Brooks B-17 is my choise. Bill In a message dated 2/10/2010 11:07:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, adam.defaye...@gmail.com writes: I'm looking for a new reading chair. Are there any legendary chairs out there, known for comfort, ergonomics, design? I'm not sure where to start. I am open to all suggestions - price not currently an object. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TCO - Oh The Horror!
You fool! Everyone knows that if you have humongous feet you need a custom. What were you thinking?!?! Are we almost finished with this discussion? Bill In a message dated 2/5/2010 12:39:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rasterd...@comcast.net writes: Until the recent endless discussions here concerning TCO I didn't have a clue about it. Now I discover that three custom bikes I've ridden and liked the most over the past 30 years have all had the dreaded TCO. I'm bummed and thinking I've should have employed more competent designers. I guess my size 12 feet have something to do with it. That, or folks were holding out on me. In hindsight, I should have been more discriminating but ignorance is bliss. Maybe we can get the Consumer Products Safety folks on board with this issue. JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: this oughta be a motto for this group
It's not a question of need - it's a question of want (raise your voice and stomp your foot)!. ...no, wait, that one didn't go over well with the wife. Bill In a message dated 1/30/2010 11:54:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, earlg...@gmail.com writes: And how many all-rounders does one really need? (Waiting for your creative answers.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures
I have both and, at this point, like the Challenge tires better - but I have yet to try them both on the same bike. Bill Louisville In a message dated 1/25/2010 10:37:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, teg...@gmail.com writes: Brilliant bike, really nice build, congratulations! I almost got those same Challenge tires (and may still) but I'm so enamored with the GB 'Cypres' tires on my 650B AHH that I got the 700Cx30 for my Roadeo. Are they as nice as the BQ reviews say they are? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures
Yea, it's cheaper, easier to clean, more shock absorbing, and, in my opinion, looks better. What's not to like? Next time, I'll have to try the VO stuff. Bill Louisville In a message dated 1/26/2010 11:34:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, adam.defaye...@gmail.com writes: I didn't like the look of the tape much until the 6 or 7th coat, and then I understood what other folks have been saying - it's gorgeous. And for $12, a better all-around choice than leather bartape (which I have gone with on past builds). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures
Adam, Lovely bike. After seeing the indoor photos, the color seemed like the Rambouillet green, but on the outdoor shots it seemed like a lighter shade. What gives? In any case, very pretty. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 1/24/2010 2:02:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, adam.defaye...@gmail.com writes: Check it out: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7IDE6Lx7BsB_In1Rke29SQ?feat=directlink Just finished wheel-build and assembly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures
Sorry, should have paid attention to the heading. Hey, it's early! In a message dated 1/24/2010 7:34:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bpus...@aol.com writes: Adam, Lovely bike. After seeing the indoor photos, the color seemed like the Rambouillet green, but on the outdoor shots it seemed like a lighter shade. What gives? In any case, very pretty. Bill Louisville, Ky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Green Roadeo - pictures
Mine measure 28 and they are wonderful. Bill In a message dated 1/24/2010 1:10:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, adam.defaye...@gmail.com writes: The tires (Challenge Parigi-Roubaix) are sold as a 27 and look like a 27 to me but I haven't measured. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news
In a message dated 1/21/2010 11:30:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, brdg...@gmail.com writes: Then I guess that's one less bike on your list. :) On Jan 21, 7:23 pm, bpus...@aol.com wrote: Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name No, it'll depend on the bike. It may be worth getting just for the head badge - which looks like it may be spectacular. Decals can always be removed. But hey, I love the name Rivendell, Gomez, Bombadil, Hilsen (have one), Atlantis, Rambouillet (have one), Quickbeam (have one), Saluki (in my opinion, the prettiest name), Bleriot, and Romulus. Only the Roadeo, and Humqapillar make me want to vomit. So as far as I'm concerned, Rivendell is batting 833 - which is pretty good. Bill Louisville -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news
In a message dated 1/22/2010 6:56:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, palin...@his.com writes: Doesn't this sound like exactly what the AHH was designed for? I own both and in my opinion, no, it does NOT do it as well as the Rambouillet. The Rambouillet is faster/ easier over dirt and/or paved longer distances. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news
No, that's not necessarily easy. You want to stay with the one you've loved for a long time. I remember having this discussion with my home builder. I told him about my neighbor who had just gone through an ugly/nasty divorce. His response was that every time he had gone through a divorce he had felt much better. I don't know, maybe you're right. Bill In a message dated 1/22/2010 7:46:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: There's an easy solution to what annoys you, and that is to look elsewhere beside Rivendell for your bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news
In a message dated 1/21/2010 11:17:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, paste...@notes.udayton.edu writes: Off to a good start, nice looking headbadge. Yea, I agree. Spectacular! I wonder if it will be a double top tuber? God, I hope not. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news
Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name In a message dated 1/21/2010 9:38:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bmenn...@comcast.net writes: Is Grant directly poking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] My Trip to Rivendell HQ
Thanks, Eric. That's the first time I've gotten a feel for Walnut Creek. In a message dated 1/18/2010 8:03:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, campyonly...@me.com writes: Stopped by Riv World HQ last week and took a few photos of the trip there: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623114234767/ I found a great deal on a bag for my Quickbeam in the Garage Sale section, and a birthday present for a friend. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv Custom
2 1/2 years is not long for a custom with a JB paint job. Beautiful bike! Bill Louisville In a message dated 1/11/2010 6:42:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, brdg...@gmail.com writes: On Jan 11, 3:28 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful. Why did it take so long? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Brand V handlebar bag review
True, and I've also noticed that if you're using Campy ergo shifters the velcro attachments to the hoods make it cumbersome to use the thumb tab shifters while wearing wool gloves. Not a bag I'm able to use in cold weather. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 1/11/2010 8:02:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, clive.stand...@umassmed.edu writes: 95% of this bag is great, but the last 5% makes it a real pain to use. I love the material, minimalist construction, velcro attachments and the size is perfect. That's the 95%. However, the bag is ridiculously difficult to get into. The single rear zip just doesn't offer enough access so you end up blindly feeling around for items. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv Reader 42
No need to, Surf. I think most of us recognized it as humor. Bill Louisville In a message dated 1/8/2010 9:44:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mclbicy...@gmail.com writes: I APOLOGIZE! Surf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] White Paselas
In a message dated 1/6/2010 10:39:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mjawn...@gmail.com writes: I wonder, do colored tires ride differently. I've only ever used black tires. --mike It depends on the color. In 2005 the engineering faculty at MIT did an experiment with mice that were painted different colors. They, basically, were asking the same question that you've asked and it was found that those mice that were painted orange were 12.4% faster (followed closely by red mice) than mice painted black, white or even (surprisingly!) silver. Luckily, after reading of the experiment, I was able to snatch up one of the last of the orange Quickbeams. Bill Louisville -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] White Paselas
Mankind always benefits when scientific discoveries are disseminated. Bill In a message dated 1/6/2010 1:42:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, skvi...@gmail.com writes: Luckily, after reading of the experiment, I was able to snatch up one of the last of the orange Quickbeams. Bill Louisville citation needed please, I want to share this citation with others. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: hunquapiller?
Now, that's a good name for the next Riv. In a message dated 1/1/2010 3:51:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, amol...@comcast.net writes: Balderdash! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bar Bags and Roadeos
huh? In a message dated 12/31/2009 10:43:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: But you said, or seemed to say, or did not take the extreme care needed not to appear to say, or could reasonably be interpreted as saying, that high trail is good only for no front/low rear loading. I take it that, despite appearances, or interpretations, or sundry ambiguities and biases, you did not mean this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kudos to Cyclofiend; Moderator Par Excellence
In a message dated 12/26/2009 5:18:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mjawn...@gmail.com writes: Yes, without a doubt let's thank Cyclofiend. I'd also like to say thanks to group members for, by and large, keeping discussions relevant, intelligent, and mature. This is a great group of folks here and like David said, it feels like home. Couldn't agree more. Yesterday, in between playing Wii games with my daughter, I read the Christmas day ride posts and felt this group really is family. Oh, and of course, thanks to the folks at Rivendell Bicycle Works. Still don't like the Roadeo name (no offence), but love you guys! Bill Louisville, Ky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Christmas day Honjo Installation.
In a message dated 12/26/2009 6:43:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, r.sh...@sbcglobal.net writes: I presume those red PJs are wool! At least MUSA! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Christmas Loot
OK, so I'll be waxing my canvas bags but how do I protect my new tweed bag? Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Northern Thailand Riv ride: Every Monday, usually at 3:30 pm
Gernot, Perhaps next summer. My wife will be visiting her family in the south (Rayong). You didn't mention what city - hopefully, Chaing Mai - my favorite city. I've often thought how nice it would be to ride in Northern Thailand. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 12/24/2009 6:42:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, earlg...@gmail.com writes: Hi everyone, on the remote chance that there are any other ROB members hiding out in or visiting Northern Thailand, Kip and I would like to invite any of you to our weekly ride. Usually at 3:30 pm, leaving from Lanna International School on the Hang Dong road just south of the airport. But switching to longer morning rides when school is on break. If you are passing through and don't have a bike, let us know, we can probably hook you up if you are between 5' 3 and 6'. Check http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/ for some pics. Cheers, and Merry Xmas, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Honjo Installation
That's great, Eric - so it should only take me about 8 hours. Seriously, I am curious about one thing. You have a Sacks but you use the Quickbeam for brevets. Don't get me wrong, I have a QB and absolutely love the bike but find it doable, but hard, to ride a Kentucky century on. We average approximately 5,000 feet for the average 100 miler - which is probably not much different than your part of California. Having ridden PBP on the single speed QB - I take my hat off to you - you're obviously a strong rider but why not ride the easier bike? Is it the lack of fenders or fatter tires or is it simply the challenge or what? Just curious, Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 12/20/2009 10:45:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, campyonly...@me.com writes: Took about two hours. And yes, they remain rain-free. --Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
In a message dated 12/4/2009 10:49:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, whalen...@gmail.com writes: How do you get your Ram down to 20 lbs? Actually, pretty easy. I got mine under 20 lbs by using Campy Record 10 speed components and Mavic Ksyrium SL wheels - which I find to be indestructible. The other stuff is all Nitto, Brooks, SPD pedals. Bill Louisville, Ky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
In a message dated 12/4/2009 1:51:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com writes: Very interesting, as I'm a Campy fan. Is this the Record gruppo with alloy cranks and levers or carbon? Do you have any photos online? It's the carbon Record gruppo. I had not intended to use this with the Rambouillet frame but the dark carbon with the dark green frame looked spectacular. Sorry, no photos online. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike
In a message dated 12/3/2009 6:28:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, joelmatth...@mac.com writes: The Challenge tread also seems a bit more fragile than the RP/RT and is prone to get more cuts, though the cuts I've gotten so far are shallow and haven't gone through the casing (as far as I can tell). Based on everything I have read, Challenge tires have excellent components and craftsmanship. If you only ride on pavement, the tread at most establishes trade dress. Here's my experience with the Challenge tire: Had my first flat (slow leak due to road grit) at 785 miles on the rear tire. Put a kevlar liner on the rear and have ridden an additional 572 miles without a flat on either tire. All miles, except for 8 miles of gravel roads, were on paved, although at time, roughly paved roads. The tread on both tires still looks excellent. In my opinion, the Challenge tire is the best tire I have ever ridden on. It's unbelievably comfortable, fast, and the durability, admittedly after only 1357 miles, is acceptable. Bill Louisville, Ky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo Teaser
In a message dated 11/25/2009 4:38:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, xodus48...@yahoo.com writes: Excellent. Best wishes for a strong relationship Right, and the same for you and your bride. Bill Louisville, Ky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Velo Orange Campagne Handlebar Bar
I've purchased quite a bit from VO and one thing that I noticed is that the first run of a number of products don't work as well as later runs - so beware. An example would be the Croissant Bag. I, and a friend, have one from the first run and they both hang and sway behind the seat like wet noodles. The newer one has a stifiner in it and I'm assuming it rides better. There seems to be the same criticism with the first run of leather saddles as well as other products.My impression is that VO is trying to bring out too many products too fast and too early. In my opinion, when Rivendell sells a product the trial and error factor has already been resolved. Bill In a message dated 11/18/2009 7:29:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mjawn...@gmail.com writes: I borrowed one from a friend. I really wanted to like the bag. It looks nice and is relatively inexpensive. The bag is just a bit too small to be totally functional. The map case on the top of the bag is too small to adequately display a cue sheet like you'd use on a brevet. The pocket on the front of the bag is also too small to be totally functional. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Carbon forks
OK, I'm convinced, carbon forks are better. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_O9PLorYPA_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_O9PLorYPA) Bill Louisville, Ky --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Dissect this quote from Grant
Naming the new bike Roadeo? Bill In a message dated 10/23/2009 10:43:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, alanpcr...@yahoo.com writes: Compared to anything Rivendell has done in the past, it's way, way out there and sounds, or might sound, inconsistent and off the deep end. Anyone have any idea what he's talking about? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: whatever happened to speedblends?
I got them when I purchased the Quickbeam and thought they looked great...for about a week and then have hid them away in the basement. Someday, when I get the urge to get a tattoo or an earring or want to have a parrot sit on my shoulder I'll use them again. I did find they're a great way to meet women. Got a number of comments from the ladies on how cute they were. Unfortunately, my wife won't let me date. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 10/14/2009 11:02:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gjtra...@yahoo.com writes: I thought they were perfect for my Quickbeam, an odd quirky bike in its own right. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Clipless Pedals
I'd take it one step further and say it has everything to do with your shoes - or at least where the cleats are fastened to the shoes. Bill In a message dated 10/13/2009 7:00:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, palin...@his.com writes: There's a reasonable chance this has nothing at all to do with the pedals and everything to do with your shoes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeams on Ebay
In my opinion, the asking price of $700 for a 2004 QB frame only seems high. I may be wrong. Bill In a message dated 9/13/2009 10:12:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, yagen...@gmail.com writes: Well I've been eyeballing the 68 frame - can somebody answer some questions? You can't buy a frame-only QB, so it's hard to compare this price to a new bike. Any opinions about the price point? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Curious: Was it me, or the Quickbeam?
Definitely the Quickbeam. I have the same problem with the damn bike. Bill In a message dated 9/7/2009 8:03:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, r.sh...@sbcglobal.net writes: Regardless, I would have been much more at ease with Fella, Guy, Man, even Dude or Bro … but Sir? Now I do feel old… Was it me, or the QB? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Considering an AHH - Advice sought
In a message dated 9/2/2009 8:11:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mhech...@gmail.com writes: The most important thing you need for fun riding is the getting the right attitude. The most important race is the human race and the goal of life is not to make everything end sooner. There will always be riders out there who can go faster than you and others who will benefit when you slow down a say a word of encouragement. I don't disagree with any of the above. It's all very noble but the bottom line is that he wants to keep up with his friends on fast one trick ponies and, I agree, Homer is not the bike for that. I love my Homer but I use him when I want to meander down a country lane at a comfortable pace. When I ride fast club 50 milers or centuries I use my Rambouillet or Specialized Roubaix. I agree with the suggestion someone had made yesterday. I would order the new Roadeo and have two sets of tires available for fast or off road rides. The Roadeo looks like it's going to be light and therefore fast, steel and thus comfortable, certainly beautiful, and capable of using tires that can handle the dirt. I've just recently gone over to the new Challenge tires (27 mm) and, my god, they are wonderful. They're very fast and super comfortable. I like them much better than the Grand Bois. How they would handle off road I don't know. Bill Louisville, KY --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo names, alternatives
Just as a matter of curiosity, I'm fairly new to the Rivendell cult (green Rambouillet), the name of the new bike (it who will not be named), seems to have caused some controversy. Like Grant said, you're not going to please everyone but has there ever been a similar controversy in naming a bike in the past? Not a biggie - just curious. Secondly, all this hoopla about building a sub 20 pound bike - I got my Rambouillet just under 20 pounds with Brooks, Nitto stuff, SPD pedals, but with stupid wheels (Grant's definition - not mine). So, how much lighter is this frame than the Rambouillet? Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 8/30/2009 12:31:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, grant...@gmail.com writes: The name Roadeo was intended to ID it as a road frame. I can see, and we knew from the start, that it would not fly with everybody --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Redux?
A Waterford built road bike for $2000? That's quite a deal although Grant could charge more if he changed the stupid name. No offense. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 8/14/2009 4:25:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fullylug...@yahoo.com writes: Jim: Thanks for the test track sneak peek of a great looking club ride bike. The feel of it seemed familiar, so I compared it to a '95 (also Ford built) Riv. No headtube extension, no TT upslope as on the later Road Standard model. The current lugset is Saluki-ish looking, but the bikes are pretty similar. This '95 Riv weighs 21lbs with the cages, pedals, leather saddle and empty saddle bag. Oh, the 95 is running 650B shoes, so imagine a tad less space between the seat post and rear rubber. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Little Loafer elastic cord
Thanks, Jim. That's the method I remember seeing - just couldn't find it. Bill In a message dated 7/31/2009 10:04:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cloud...@aol.com writes: Hi Bill, Obviously the site owner, Mr. Cyclofiend, will probably respond to your request but here's a link to his photostream on Flickr that shows one method: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/2321614060/ Jim **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wasn't the Rodeo prototype supposed to be unveiled by now
It certainly does make sense. Car companies do it all the time. It's called wetting the appetite. Bill In a message dated 7/31/2009 2:23:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ginoza...@gmail.com writes: Hmm, I'm not sure why any company would unveil a prototype - it's just a prototype, bound to be tweaked and changed. Strategically for a retail company, it doesn't seem to make much sense to unveil products until they are in production with all the kinks ironed out, so that what the customer's see is what the customers get. **A bad credit score is 600 below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgI D=62bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wasn't the Rodeo prototype supposed to be unveiled by now
besides, Velo-Orange does it quite effectively. In a message dated 7/31/2009 2:31:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bpus...@aol.com writes: It certainly does make sense. Car companies do it all the time. It's called wetting the appetite. Bill **A bad credit score is 600 below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgI D=62bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: triathlete road rage?
In a message dated 7/15/2009 2:22:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com writes: Is there something in the tri athlete's water that makes them so patently nutty when it comes to sharing the road? Has anyone else experienced some form of tri athlete road rage? Are there any tri athletes on this list who can lend some perspective to what seems to me to be utterly inexplicable behavior? Aaron, As I was reading your report I assumed that your's was an isolated case. The responses seem to confirm that. It's funny, The last couple of years Louisville has hosted an USA Iron Man Triathlon. A lot of folks have gotten the bug and want to do the Iron Man distance. They've gone out and purchased tri bikes and end up on local club centuries. Unfortunately, most don't have the bike handling skills - they insist riding up steep hills at 5 to 7 mph in their pointy bars, etc. Fortunately, most realize their bike handling skills suck and they either ride off of the back or the front of the group but there's always the idiot that wants to be in the pace line riding on the pointy bars or that you need to get around as they slowly zig zag up a hill. Fortunately, Louisville is almost in the South and people tend to be more polite, (at least according to my perspective of having grown up in Chicago), and there's almost never a harsh word spoken. Riders either keep their distance from these wannabe's or politely remind them to ride of the back. I had to laugh when you mentioned that the C spoke with a German accent. Having lived and worked in, at the time, West Germany I could relate. Stay positive, Bill Louisville, Ky **Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great laptop deals from Dell! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223081934x1201714279/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 39%2D1629%2D4) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Should I be worried?
In a message dated 7/15/2009 3:57:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, richard.go...@earthlink.net writes: I have a Hilsen with a nice paint job and there is no comparison. The paint on the QB is not great advertising for Riv bikes. Funny, I have the opposite experience. My Quickbeam looks great and my Hilsen sucks. I had the Hilsen painted a custom color and the paint around the head tube lugs sucks. I did not expect a JB paint job but I at least expected it as nice as my of the rack green Rambouillet. I mentioned it to John at Rivendell and he told me to send him pictures. Hell, not being real computer literate, waiting 9 months for a Waterford built frame and Nobilet built fork (both very, very nice), and having already built up the frame, I decided I'd be pissed-off for a few years and then get a decent paint job. Bill Louisville, Ky **Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great laptop deals from Dell! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223081934x1201714279/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 39%2D1629%2D4) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Should I be worried?
In a message dated 7/15/2009 7:26:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bpus...@aol.com writes: I decided I'd be pissed-off for a few years and then get a decent paint job. ...and never ever again get a custom paint color from Rivendel again - unless it's Joe Bell. John told me that he nornally does a great job...must have caught him on a hung over Monday. **Performance you need and the value you want! Check out great laptop deals from Dell! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223081934x1201714279/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D819 39%2D1629%2D4) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another
I agree with the dreadful name. I imagine Grant not being crazy about the whole idea of a lighter tube road bike and when it got to the name part he said, whatever. Lousy name but not a deal breaker. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 7/10/2009 11:07:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, anne.paul...@gmail.com writes: Bike idea fantastic, name dreadful **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323031x1201367232/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another
Whatever it's named - it's exciting news. Can't wait to see it. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 7/8/2009 1:56:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fullylug...@yahoo.com writes: How about the Roadie - 1. Then you can abbv it RD-1 instead of the Bstone RB-1... **Popular laptop deals plus free shipping! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221917659x1201411421/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.media plex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D2) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Brooks Swift or B17 Narrow, ti or steel rails?
Definitely the young Nordic nubile blond honey. Matches the top decal on the seat tube AND I just love saying young Nordic nubile blond honey. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 7/2/2009 1:37:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pedal_kr...@yahoo.se writes: So whats your verdict on Brooks colours then? Got me some raw hides and brown leather paint, but can't decide what seat to get. The frame I'm dressing up is a Mercian Vincitore Special (yeah, wrong forum :) with a Ice Blue Pearl paint job and white windows: http://i35.tinypic.com/2cwu78g.jpg Either a young-nordic-blond-honey or a stuffy-british-antique-brown **Dell Summer Savings: Cool Deals on Popular Laptops – Shop Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222696924x1201468348/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Faltfarm.mediaplex.com%2Fad%2Fck%2F12309%2D81939%2D1629%2D1) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Whoa! Bombadil component alert!
In a message dated 6/30/2009 9:02:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ericpl...@aol.com writes: Per the read about it that's the intention. Sorry, I don't get it. Asking what the extension is seems like a logical question. Bill **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377075x1201454393/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: More Problems with Gravel
In a message dated 6/29/2009 7:27:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, palin...@his.com writes: Beyond that, obviously you need a new 650B bike That's obvious. Definitely a new bike! Whichever one you decide on, don't make the mistake of telling your wife that this new expensive bike will solve the problem and you'll never need another bike. Wives remember that. Mine is still reminding me of this foolish statement - ten years and 5 bikes later. Just between the two of us, use some common sense and use your brakes. Bill Louisville, Ky **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823281x1201398699/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: My New Bags (Smythe and Acorn)
I did the same on both the Rambouillet and Hilsen. The VO stems are beautiful, relatively cheap, light, and, as you said, they make it easy to change stems. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 6/15/2009 9:46:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, d2creat...@gmail.com writes: I also swapped out my traditional quill stem for a polished Velo Orange traditional 6 degree stem and threadless stem adapter. Now if I want to swap stems or something I don't have to re-wrap my bars. **Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0004) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Polishing Frenzy
I believe it's a Velo Orange. _http://www.velo-orange.com/bellsdingding.html_ (http://www.velo-orange.com/bellsdingding.html) Bill In a message dated 6/1/2009 8:05:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, max...@sdf.lonestar.org writes: That's a really nifty bell mount. Did you make it? **We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew0007) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: steel vs. carbon fiber
In a message dated 5/30/2009 11:34:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net writes: i am a true believer in grant's fit process. i love my 60cm blue ram. but, i broke down and purchased a 56cm specialized roubaix frameset. on my ram, i run grand bois 700x28 with 75psi front and 85psi rear. on my roubaix, i run vredestein 700x25 pumped to 100psi. the roubaix is a smoother ride in my mind. if you don't need to carry anything other than spares, its hard to knock the roubaix. don c. Interesting, I have the exact same bikes. I've had the 56 cm Rambouillet now for about 3 years (over 10,000 miles) and I got the Roubaix about 3 weeks ago. While I love the Rambouillet as my go fast century bike, the Roubaix design has fascinated me for some time. At this point, I've only put about 250 miles on it (first century yesterday) and my initial impression is that it is comfortable compared to many bikes but not as shock absorbing as the Rambouillet. The century that I did yesterday in Indiana had a few miles of chip and seal and the Roubaix, while OK, was definitely not as shock absorbing as the Rambouillet. I run the same wheels (Mavic Kyserum) and tires ( 25 Conti's) on both bikes. Don't get me wrong, the Roubaix has many wonderful qualities but don't buy it simply because of the winner over the cobbles hype. Bill Louisville, Ky **We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew0007) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tail wagging the dog?
Man, do I agree! In a message dated 5/31/2009 6:01:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, palin...@his.com writes: Life is short and I am on the bike daily. **We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew0007) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: steel vs. carbon fiber
Am I correct in assuming it's one of the lower end Roubaix models? The top of the line S-Works lists, and sells, for $2900 for the frame, fork and headset - unless, of course, you picked up one of the older models. The Roubaix has changed, (hopefully improved), each year over the last 3 - 4 years. Bill In a message dated 5/31/2009 8:58:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net writes: actually, my roubaix frame set cost me $1935 out the door and included frame, fork,. headset, stem, and handlebars. **We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew0007) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Best thing about the Nitto bottle cage from Riv?
Mine, going on 3 years, are still great. Must be the dry air in your neck of the woods...I mean, cactus. Bill Kentucky In a message dated 5/17/2009 7:11:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, d2creat...@gmail.com writes: The worst thing? They break easily. **Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav0002) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen
A young and handsome 61. In a message dated 5/10/2009 5:36:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: All of you riders who do double centuries and brevets (on heavy Rivs): how old are you? Patrick seeking for any excuse More **Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav0002) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 400k on Hilsen
It's not just cycling. The same applies to ultra running (50k, 50 miles, 100miles). Many of the competitors are the same ages listed here. In a message dated 5/10/2009 8:38:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, proto...@gmail.com writes: With cycling, age doesn't seem to matter much...unless its racing. **Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav0002) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Big head says thanks
About a month ago I asked for recommendations on cycling caps that would fit my 7 5/8 noggin. I ended up ordering the extra-large Walz cap. They (one cotton and one wool) arrived yesterday and they fit! Thanks, Bill Louisville **Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=floristncid=emlcntusyelp0006) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
In a message dated 4/26/2009 7:05:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, k5o...@gmail.com writes: Yesterday, at the Germanfest rally in Muenster, however, someone sprang a new comment on me: It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? He was surprised when I told him the bike wasn't even a year old, and designed in California. Robert, That's not all that unusual. You'll get used to it. When I first started riding the Rambouillet, a kid on a carbon bike told me the bike looked cool and asked me when it was built. He was expecting to hear 1948, 1939, etc. When I told him April he didn't say anything - I could see he was having difficulty processing April.' Bill **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.
Yes, I agree. I have a 1996 Litespeed Vortex with, I'm guessing, 50 to 60,000 miles on it. It has a brushed finish and except for some scratches on the decals looks as good as the day I purchased it. That's another advantage of titanium. I did replace the carbon fork just because I was getting nervous after riding on it for a decade. I still love riding it. On the other hand, I've given names to my Hilsen, Rambouillet, and Quickbeam and, when no one is looking, on rides I talk to them. Don't laugh - I'm sure I'm not the only one. I guess my point is that I consider the Vortex a tool (a very efficient tool) and the steel lugged bikes as having a personality. Bill - I swear I have not been drinking - yet. Louisville, Ky In a message dated 4/19/2009 2:06:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, phi...@sonic.net writes: I agree with Jim that if you are looking for a used bicycle or frame, titanium is the bargain! I've seen Serotta Legends, Litespeed Vortex, Merlin Extralights and others including the newer Lemond ti frames sell for anywhere from $500-1000 for frameset (usually with a carbon fork and headset). A great deal. **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan
Damn, is it raining everywhere? Is that why you guys ain't riding? Wet in Kentucky, Bill In a message dated 4/14/2009 2:56:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, softlysoftlycatcheemon...@gmail.com writes: Please stop the groaning. It's embarrassing, it's bugging Grant, and it serves no purpose. **The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221421325x1201417411/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26h mpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilAvgfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan
Love: The Rambouillet Moan: The lack of the Rambouillet In a message dated 4/12/2009 3:01:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, subfas...@gmail.com writes: Love: A company that actually cares about bikes, labor, human rights, and trying to do the right thing. Bright colors and cream head tubes. Room for fenders on every bike. The work that went into helping 650b in the U.S. Groan: Associated with Riv by proxy: People who say Rivendale. The cult status backlash. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572838x1201387489/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan
In a message dated 4/12/2009 5:20:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ginoza...@gmail.com writes: Heh. I took my (22.5lb) Rambouillet for a hilly 50 miler this morning. It continues to be my favorite Rivendell for spirited long rides. Gino, That's my point. Nothing is flat here in Kentucky and it, too, is my favorite for spirited club centuries - about 45 last year. Mine's down to 20.96 lb (hey, that's what the digital scale reads). Now, there's nothing on the Riv showroom floor that offers the same performance and no, the Hilsen, does not take it's place. I have a Homer and love it for totally different reasons. Bill **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572838x1201387489/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan
Nitto stem, bar, water bottle cages Campy Record 10 speed components Brooks Professional Ti (before the big price increase) American Classic seat stem (aluminum) Shimano SPD mountain bike pedals Mavic Ksyzium SL wheels Conti 25cm Gator Skins tires I could make the bike lighter by replacing the Nitto stuff, Brooks saddle, pedals, tires. I could even get lighter wheels and a much lighter frame but, for me atleast, I've found components that are light, yet strong and durable, AND comfortable. Origionally, I hadn't planned on putting the carbon Campy components on the Rambouillet but the dark carbon on the dark green frame looked really really nice. The bike was weighed without the normal small seat bag. On brevets I carry a larger or a handle bar bag. The Mavic wheels on the Rambouillet are relatively new. On another bike I've put over 15,000 miles on them without any problems. Bill In a message dated 4/12/2009 7:21:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clive.stand...@umassmed.edu writes: I'd love to see a build list on that 21lb Ram. Mine's at 25lbs but it's set up for touring. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572838x1201387489/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan
In a message dated 4/12/2009 8:57:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, skvi...@gmail.com writes: I would like for riv to have a here's what we're thinking about blog like VO has, too. I suspect the blog drives purchasers to the website for VO. Yes, I would agree. I check the VO blog almost daily but only check the Riv what's new section every once in a while, (approximately once every 2 to 4 weeks), and, you right, I've probably purchased more stuff lately from VO. Bill **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572838x1201387489/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wool Cycling Hat
My problem is I have a big head (hey, watch it!). I wear a 7 5/8 hat size and every cycling cap I've tried is too small. Any suggestions short of knitting my own? Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 4/5/2009 11:54:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rasterd...@comcast.net writes: I got one of **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572833x1201387477/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: brooks saddle thought
Humanely + slaughter = oxymoron In a message dated 3/8/2009 4:31:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, skvi...@gmail.com writes: Has anyone ever heard of or approached Brooks about making a line of their saddles made from the hides of cattle which have been more humanely raised and slaughtered? **Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try the new Email Toolbar now! (http://toolbar.aol.com/mail/download.html?ncid=txtlnkusdown0027) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell
Thank you, you've just said what I've been thinking for quite sometime. Bill In a message dated 2/21/2009 10:01:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, charles_v...@hotmail.com writes: It seems Rivendell is stuck on their buyers using their bikes on fire trails which in my area don't even exist, unless you want rocks, stumps, roots and generally gnarly surfaces. Not something I think the Riv folks would even consider riding on. I am not sure what those fire trails are like down in sunny Cali but ..I think Riv might have lost some sales because of the emphasis on fire road weight limits. It gets confusing when you read the info, at least for me it was. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell
In my opinion, you're fine. Homer is a heavy, sturdy bike - I have one. Your weight might be a problem on fire roads but should not be a concern on paved roads. Rivendell, as most companies, is concerned about liability issues - not any different than Conti recommending only a max of 90 psi in their tires and everyone I know runs them between 100 to 120 psi - but that's a whole other issue. You'll love the Hilsen. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 2/21/2009 7:53:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jim.bron...@gmail.com writes: But now I have slimmed down to the 235-240 range so I started thinking AHH again. Rivendell's site says the weight limit is 220 lbs on fire roads. But I am never going to ride on fire roads. The AHH would mainly be my brevet bike. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: thinking about another Rivendell
I have Jack Brown's on the Quickbeam and they are very nice. Bill In a message dated 2/21/2009 8:30:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jimcwar...@earthlink.net writes: I use Jack Brown blues on mine, and I'm sure these are contributing to the bike's greatness. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: EEK!!! Say it ain't so (Shimano Electronic Shiftng System)
I think Chris is referring to price. With the two bikes, as with the components, one is twice as expensive as the other. New technology bores you as it provides no value? Don't you think it's a little too soon to make that decision? Personally, new technology does the opposite for me. It may or may not work but that's how improvements in bicycle technology have come about - two steps forward, one step back. Wether this is one of the steps forward or backward, I'll wait to see. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 2/17/2009 6:35:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, joelmatth...@mac.com writes: So, they are the same bike...just one had more prestige, just like electronic Dura Ace. Chris Don't shy away from technology, it really won't bite you! You are assuming because electric shifting technology is new it is prestigious. I do not think that is a logical conclusion at all. I don't fear the technology will bite me. Rather it will bore me as it provides no value. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Soma Delancey vs. Quickbeam
I'd be interested in your opinion of the Delancey. I have a Quickbeam, and, while I love it, I was thinking of getting a quicker' single speed for club centuries. Bill In a message dated 2/15/2009 9:00:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, samcoal...@gmail.com writes: Hey all, I own a Soma Delancey and was wondering if anybody has owned one and switched to the QB, possibly what their thoughts are on the QB vs. the Soma. I owned a Rambolliet in the past so I know the work Riv does but was curious more on fit and whether it would be worth upgrading? **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rambouillet
Mike, Congrats, it looks great. You're right, it rides a lot different than the Hilsen. My personal preferance is the hammered Honjos. You may also want to look at the Continental GatorSkins (28cm). I think they ride as well and are faster than the Ruffty Tuffys. Bill In a message dated 2/11/2009 12:56:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mjawn...@gmail.com writes: I'm excited to have this bike back as it rides very different than my Hilsen. I need to get fenders for it, my old SKS 45s I put on my commuter. I'm not sure if I'll go with Honjos, Berthouds or maybe SKS 35s (I'm now using Ruffy Tuffys as opposed to 32 Paselas). **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi0002) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pics of Atlantis built up as pure road bike?
I certainly agree, Anne, but comparing a Klein (super light) to a Atlantis (heavy) on hills may not be a fair comparison. Having said that, I have pretty much a similar setup on my Rambouillet and Hilsen and climb a lot faster on the skinny tires. Not only do the skinny tires climb better, feel faster, but they descend faster. I haven't done timed comparisons as Jan Heinie in Bicycle Quarterly but my top speed on the skinner tires is higher. Our roads, here in Kentucky, are fairly smoothly paved. Jan may have a point on the advantages of wider tires being faster on rough roads and they are certainly more comfortable and, also, Homer would look silly on skinny tires. Bill In a message dated 2/10/2009 1:25:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, anne.paul...@gmail.com writes: Easier climbing? Lately when I do club rides on nice days, I ride my Klein with 28mm tires. There's a huge difference between that and the 32mm tires (plus a generator hub) on my Atlantis, and I climb a lot faster on the Klein. What difference does climbing a hill eight minutes faster make? For me, not that much, but for the friend waiting for me at the top, quite a lot. **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Today's Film Feature
Velo Orange In a message dated 2/8/2009 11:45:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: And finally, where did you get those very nice bar mount bottle holders? **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
