Re: [RBW] A Boy, A Bike, and A Benefactor
Leah- You reminded me of Maynard Hershons' classic article. See pg. 10. http://assets.seattlepub.com:8020/SuperContainer/RawData/BicyclePaper/Issues/1995-10 Bernie On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:09 AM Leah Peterson wrote: > Hello, friends! > > You’ll remember I invited you at the end of my original post to report > back here if you had followed the example of my benefactor and embraced any > opportunities to be someone else’s. That invitation stands, and I am sure > I’m not alone in saying I’d delight in reading your stories. > > I’ve heard from some of you (via PM) since this thread posted; little bits > of kindness in daily life that you’ve been giving and how it makes you > feel. It’s been so delightful - you really are the best. > > I said I wanted to be sure not to let this generosity end with me, and I > had my chance at it this morning. The story is in the works, and I will > plant it here (complete with photos!) later today. > > Meanwhile, here’s a Little Silver Clem photo that is sure to make anyone > grin. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 4, 2018, at 11:49 AM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch < > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > Fantastic, Leah! Beautiful to read how much he loves his bike (and how > much he understands how its differences are a huge part of why he loves > it!)! > > > > With abandon, > > Patrick > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/qrKUcYAQetM/unsubscribe > . > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thanks Grant
Thank you, Grant! Bernie Burton On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 9:11 AM, John A. Bennett wrote: > To quote John F. Kennedy, who was paraphrasing Edmund Burke: > > As the great parliamentarian Edmund Burke said, "The only thing necessary > for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." > > The full speech, delivered in Canada, back in the Olden Days when we were > still friends with them: > > http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=8136 > > JAB in Portland, Ore. > > > On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 8:07:07 PM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote: >> >> Glad to see you voice your opinion on the Blahg/Blug/whatever it was. >> >> -Justin >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met
Even better book, No.1 on Amazon, Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe- best weight lifting book ever. Bernie Burton On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:43 AM, d2mini wrote: > >> > I'm with you, OP... don't jog! Especially as we age. Best thing to do is > get stronger and you don't get stronger with low intensity steady state > cardio. You get stronger by lifting heavy things. And IMO, the stronger we > are, not only do we look better, but recovery to injury is quicker, you are > sick less, immune system is stronger, less overall aging problems. You may > be skinny, but if you've got no muscle that's not doing you any good. > Scrawny, weak and feeble. Being able to run 10 miles isn't going to help > you when you are laid up in a hospital bed for weeks. And when you are > lifting weights and getting stronger, there is no need to deny yourself of > certain food groups if you don't want to. I was Paleo/low carb for the > better part of a decade. Yeah, it worked and most of the time it was pretty > easy, cause who doesn't like bacon!?... but it worked for one reason... it > satiates you and makes it easier to eat in a caloric deficit. Same with > Intermittent Fasting which I've also done. That 8 hour eating window just > makes it easier to consume less calories. At the end of the day, that's all > that matters... eat less. Don't be fooled by the self proclaimed youtube > gurus that try to tell you that you are training your body to burn fat, > your increasing fat burning hormones, bullet proof coffee, apple cider > vinegar or other such nonsense. Every single one of those guys have one > goal... make money. Modern day snake oil peddlers. Get on a solid weight > lifting program and you can go back to eating it all. Within reason of > course. I'll be 45 this summer and I finally got what I always wanted... a > six pack! And i'm not talking about the beverage. ;) I've been where you > guys are and I've learned a lot through it all. Only took me 10 years to > weed through all the B.S. and figure it out. I now lift 4-5 days a week and > track my calories/macros to make sure I'm getting the correct quantity and > ratios and the results have been amazing. And the same advice goes for you > ladies! No, you are not going to get "bulky". You are going to get strong, > lean and fit. Win. And don't get me wrong, I'm not poo-pooing on low carb. > You can still keep carbs relatively low if you'd like. The important thing > is getting the minimum amount of Protein and Fat. Once you've done that you > can fill the rest of your calories however you want. So eat your bacon and > don't jog. Instead, eat your bacon and lift heavy things! :) > > Since ya'll are recommending books, look up Bigger Leaner Stronger by Mike > Matthews on amazon. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: RIV Catalog Arrived
I am a Life member and not received my catalog yet!! Bernie Burton On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Grant Petersen wrote: > at this point, two ways to get a catalog > > 1. order something > 2. call and ask > > in a week or so we'll have it online, for those who prefer a screen! > > > On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Patrick Moore > wrote: > >> I haven't, but then I told Riv to keep my donation, so perhaps they took >> me off the list. >> >> Patrick Moore, in ABQ, NM, 1,136 miles by bike from Rivendell World HQ >> (per Google maps). >> >> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:14 AM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch < >> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> Has anyone else still not received their catalog? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: >>>> >>>> Just got the mail and there it was - the promised Riv catalog! I'm >>>> going to wait until after work to savor it with a beer in hand on the back >>>> patio. Just from the cover, it looks to be of high quality. Much as you >>>> would expect. >>>> Chris >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. >> Other professional writing services. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >> >> >> *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/to >> pic/rbw-owners-bunch/2AWqae2l9mQ/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Has RBW ever made bibs?
Grant has always had and recommended MUSA pants as an alternative to cycling shorts Bernie Burton On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Joe Bunik wrote: > the blue ones? > > On 5/21/18, Jeremy Till wrote: > > No, but they used to sell some pretty awesome suspenders. > > > > On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 12:49:17 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote: > >> > >> . > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: "Winter" clothing help
I found Scott Carneys book WHAT DOESN'T KILL US very infomative about the massive change heating and air conditioning have caused on human existence. For the entire history of humanity, humans have been subjected to tremendous weather changes each year. We basically now live at 72-74 degrees year round. This is a very informative book that is great food for thought. Bernie Burton On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Non-clothing tip: In the cold, only breath through your nose. Slow down if > you need to. You will feel better, temperature regulation will vastly > improve, and you will build a solid aerobic base of fitness. It can take > some frustrating learning to get there, especially if you are very used to > overbreathing through your mouth (and many people are). However, in the > cold, the sinuses are designed to heat and moisturize air before getting to > the lungs. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: know anything about motorcycles?
You could buy my BMW 1995 R100 GSPD Black Classic. Bernie Burton On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 9:59 AM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I owned a bunch of motorcycles in the seventies and eighties. I switched > to cycling because I was an idiot and couldn't ride slow. My all time > favorite was a DT175 Yamaha dual sport. I liked it better than the 500cc > bikes I had. It was light, fast and simple and when I converted it to a > cafe bike it railed corners. Yamaha is rated currently (according to the > Ninnernet) the most reliable brand available. I would suggest any of the DT > bikes, if you can deal with the air pollution two strokes put out. > > Clayton B. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell uses BikeFlights
Rivendell undoubtably also has a Bikefights corporate account Bernie Burton On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:14 PM, 'Steve' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:09:19 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote: >> >> Using Bikeflights is cheaper for a company than having a corporate >> account? >> > > I suspect that discount associated with a corporate account is tied to the > amount of volume that business does with the carrier. The more volume, the > higher the discount. Suspect that amount of frames and bikes shipped by > bikeflights far exceeds that of Riv. Riv probably uses their own corporate > account for the small things, but bikeflights for frames and complete bikes > due to the higher discount. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Thank you and "Enjoy the Ride!"
Patrick--
Dominus Vobiscum!
Bernie Burton
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner) <
thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote:
> Patrick:
>
>
>
> This is terribly disappointing. Your posts and pictures, and also your
> wide-ranging discussions, have been inspiring and thought-provoking for me
> – we are not always in agreement, but your manifest enjoyment of life (not
> just bikes, but bikes, too!) has been a great joy to see on this list.
>
>
>
> Like others, I hope you're not leaving because of a slight, real or
> perceived, in something posted on this site. I believe there is genuine
> respect for you here, as a number of replies in this thread eloquently
> reflect. Perhaps you'll reconsider, but whether you do or not, I wish you
> the very best in your travels in your new direction. Stop in and see us
> from time to time!
>
>
>
> Very best,
>
> Tom
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>
>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@
> googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Deacon Patrick
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:05 PM
> *To:* Rivendell Owners Rivendell Owners Group
> *Subject:* [RBW] Thank you and "Enjoy the Ride!"
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>
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> I’m going to be riding off a different direction. Thank you all on this
> group — you have helped me tremendously as I’ve dived into wrenching and
> fine tuning the my rides. I am grateful for all you’ve given me. May God
> startle you with joy!
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>
> With abandon,
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> Patrick
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> www.OurHolyConception.org <http://www.ourholyconception.org>
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> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org <http://www.mindyourheadcoop.org>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Tandem
We were there last Saturday (my wife bought a Hillborne) and I took the HHH around the building a few times with my kids on the back (one at a time). Very comfy. Rode like a bicycle. I liked it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] wtb - size 53 Atlantis
thanks for the link. I'd seen that one and also thought that the ask was a bit optimistic. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] wtb - size 53 Atlantis
Anyone have a line on one? thanks, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.
I was a little known member of the Bicycling Magazine editorial health board from 1987 to 2001. Ed Pavelka, Fred Matheny, Dr. Ed Burke and the entirety of the editorial health board were summarily dismissed at the same time. Dr Bernie Burton On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:59 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > The editor I have in mind was quite a bit after DeLong and Bertoe; this > man was part of the team through the '90s, and among other entries I recall > his account of a record breaking - personal or absolute - ride through the > up and down terrain of Pennsylvania. He later had a blog, but I forget his > name -- aggressive roadie type, but interesting to read while, at the same > time, sneering smugly at his racer puritanism. A big man with curly hair, > IIRC -- which, given my weakness for remembering names, may not count for > much. > > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:44 PM, George Schick wrote: > >> "... Of course, one reason I dumped Bicycling is that most of its writing >> was pretty dull, after they dumped their editors -- Bill Strickland, the >> aging, raging roadie whose name I forget, and others in the annum >> horribilem 2 decades or so ago ..." >> >> I used to subscribe for a number or years back in the mid-70's, too, and >> the tech editor I remember was Fred DeLong. Not sure if that's who you're >> thinking of. I will say this about mags like Bicycling - special interest >> periodicals tend to regurgitate the same old stuff in a cyclical fashion >> because how much can you talk about something in a niche, narrow scope >> without exhausting the material, doesn't matter if it's golf, fishing, >> archery, etc. So, they tend to pick up new, unfamiliar readers on the >> front end and gradually drop the more experienced ones off the back. It's >> a tough business and the new, fresh break throughs are few and far >> between. Which is probably why they went along with the latest and >> greatest when all the aluminum, titanium, and CF stuff came along. But the >> great thing about the old, old Bicycling was people like Fred and his >> always innovative ways of viewing something, including clever maintenance >> and repairs. >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The joys of modern lighting... we've come a long way!
Will the mid 70s' Citroen SM ( Sports Maserati) had swiveling outer lights which were disabled in the U.S. Bernie Burton Wichita Falls, Tx On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:49 PM, William deRosset wrote: > >But I am a little surprised in a way that after 100+ years(?) of dyno > lighting there isn't a dragless hub yet. > >Also, dyno lights with a lens that allows you to see into a turn when > turning. > >Also, lower prices for these things. > >Also, why taillights aren't built into frames yet. > > Dear Lungimsam, > > We don't have dragless ANYTHING. One of the laws of thermodynamics is that > you don't get something for nothing. You can't even break even. > > If you're referring to lights-off conditions, a good alternator minimizes > the eddy currents and stray induction that causes those losses, and the SON > and SP hubs both lose less than 0.5w at 20mph. There are clutched systems > to decouple the alternator entirely when turned off, but they turned out to > have enough weight (and increased drag when on) to offset that tiny > benefit. > > Power on, Claw-pole alternator designs can be very efficient (the SP and > SON designs are around 60%, so under 6W cost for 3W of light at speed), but > there are limits to what fits dimensionally and is pleasant to carry around > on a 20lb machine with a 1/3 HP power source (an auto alternator is more > efficient than even high-quality bike dynamos (the good ones are closer to > 85% efficient if I recall correctly), but it has a large iron core, a whole > lot more windings, etc, and it neither light nor small). 6W is a > manageable workload for most of us. Note that nominal 6W output systems > were available to drive multiple lights, but never really took off for > push-bike use (they did gain a toehold in the ebike market). They require > closer to 10W to drive the additional load, and that turns out to be a lot > of power for the average cyclist relative to the additional light. > > Tail lights are built into properly integrated bikes. Perhaps not into > yours, but two of my machines came with built-in tail lights, and I am > hardly alone. We as customers have not historically demanded (nor paid for) > fully-functional lighting systems for our sporting machines, and, because > it requires more design work (and complicates assembly), bike builders have > obliged by not really trying to integrate them except where required by > law. The German shopping bike design requirements support all of us in this > respect. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/3522736540/ > > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/EMNpauT1sq6SXSNJF_PMyNmblz4G8eB5pdrTwecIxBc?feat=directlink > https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/lights/compass-taillight/# > > Many more if you consider fenders an integral part of the complete bike. > > Lower prices? Larger volume and cheaper materials (which works against > efficiency in the case of the alternator, anyway, and good design/build > quality below some threshold). I consider a $40 light, $120 hub, and $30 > rear light pretty inexpensive for what you get, and, honestly, the > Velo-Lumino switch is a masterpiece of low-volume value.The comparison cost > would be a replacement light system for a motorcycle or an auto headlight. > Not just the consumable bulb(s), but an alternator, light switch, wiring > harness, control electronics, and a front and rear lens assembly. Even an > Edelux/SON/Velo-Lumino switch, sinewave USB power supply, and Secula (all > low-volume premium bits) end up costing less than than the equivalent > system parts for a Toyota truck (go ahead, price the wiring harness and > relays) or my old BMW motorcycle, and those items were mass-produced on > huge scales. > > You could add another light that you can aim to the handlebars or to your > head (most of us ride with a secondary helmet-mount light offroad, for > example), but even with 90W to work with (vs the 3W or so of a bike > lighting system) most designers choose to leave the lights fixed. The > Edelux II and current-generation Cyo has a pretty broad beam and still > retains decent projection for riding at speed, and has enough side > illumination for ordinary road use (unless you block part of the beam with > the front wheel/fender/rack, as I did with the Boulder Bicycle > Allroad--left-hand mount on the Nitto rack, so low-speed right-hand > switchback turns are into a shadow. > > I think Citroen had driving lights that swiveled with the front wheels. > Alternatively, you could wire a helmet-mount light into your dynamo with a > permanent plug into the bike's wiring harness. I've considered doing that > for bikepacking, but have just used battery helmet lights for that >
[RBW] Stack and Reach on a size 55 Sam Hillborne
Does anyone here have a 55 Sam Hillborne that they could measure the stack and reach for me? many thanks, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 cm for sale
Hi Jeff, I sent you an email. thanks, > > Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 cm for sale
> > Hi Jeff, > I've sent you an email. thanks, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Berthoud bag/Marks rack mounting question
I know you said no Jerry-rigging, but I came up with a super easy solution for this that I think is better than a decaleur. I may have stolen the idea from a Weigle photo but I can't remember for sure. Anyway, I bought some 3/4 aluminum bar stock and made a bridge across the rack. Pictur a straight bar with two little feet that are bolted to the eyelets on the rack sides. Then I fashioned a strut that goes inside the Berthoud bag. Picture a flat bottomed U that goes up the sides and tucks under the Velcro flaps that hold the card board stiffener in place. Then I drilled through the strut, the bag bottom, and the bridge, added two bolts with brass knurled nuts and presto! Rock solid rando bag, no handlebar real estate consumed or finicky decaleur to mess with. It's worked great for a few years , including on some very long, very bumpy rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Grant on tires
I'm fairly certain I bought my Sam because the test bike was shod with Hetres. It's my first Riv. I'd taken a few test rides on other bikes, and my then-current bike had Duremes, and the Sam felt completely different. Nimble, but laughably smooth going over cobble and rough macadam. The difference was night and day. I immediately placed my order for the Sam and have put many thousands of miles on Hetres since, with very few flats. I'd guesstimate I get between two and three thousand miles a tire, depending on front and rear. The Hetres only come off for some Nokians in the Winter. The Nokians in comparison are dead, heavy, and jarring, but bite like crazy on the ice. I just bought my wife one of the last available Betty Foys, and her reaction was the same--big wide grin, commenting that the ride was so, so nice. Props to the lovely bike, but best money spent is on the tires. I'm new to biking, but have spent many years ski racing. Both sports are badly afflicted with gear junkies. And if you were to ask me where to spend your money on ski gear, I'd say boots, pay whatever it takes on boots; everything else flows from there and is secondary. Kind of feel the same about my Hetres. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] New Compass tires?
Jan, is there a rim that works particularly well with these tires? I'm hoping to avoid the seating issues I've had with Hetres on Synergies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any commuters here?
99 percent of my riding on my Sam was commuting until recently. I bought it when my commute went from 10 miles round trip to 46 and i wanted a bike that I would enjoy sitting on for a few hours everyday. I set it up with a SON dyno, wired lights front and rear, and a DiNotte rear flamethrower for good measure. Medium Sakville seat bag holds a latop and clothes. That long commute finally broke me, especially the Boston winters, so I bought a house closer to my office, and ended up working from home most days. Now I use the bike to haul my kids to school in a trailer. I went for my very first recreational ride, (not counting a couple entries in the D2R2) about 3 weeks ago. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ny_7wjBAMUgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any commuters here?
99 percent of my riding on my Sam was commuting until recently. I bought it when my commute went from 10 miles round trip to 46 and i wanted a bike that I would enjoy sitting on for a few hours everyday. I set it up with a SON dyno, wired lights front and rear, and a DiNotte rear flamethrower for good measure. Medium Sakville seat bag holds a latop and clothes. That long commute finally broke me, especially the Boston winters, so I bought a house closer to my office, and ended up working from home most days. Now I use the bike to haul my kids to school in a trailer. I went for my very first recreational ride, (not counting a couple entries in the D2R2) about 3 weeks ago. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cKv4_JSPiccJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Review of "Just Ride."
An anecdote on the road bike thing. Last year, as part of a charity ride (my second ever organized ride) I had the opportunity to go for a VIP ride the day before the real event. This is a ride put on by a somewhat famous Holliwood actor with several world-class pros and other top flight racers. I showed up to the start of the VIP ride late, about 15 minutes after the group had headed out, so, thinking I'd likely never catch up, I hammered it. Caught up after about half an hour (they were keeping a very leisurely pace). There I was, on my Hillbourne in full station wagon mode, while everyone else was on a bike straight off the manufacturer's team van. TdF level riders were coming over to gawk at my set up; the friction shifters, fenders, dyno hub, front bag, and they were loving it. Like they never new a bike could be so, em, practical. The next day, on the charity century, the guy I'm riding with is on a full race stock Specialized bike. His rear wheel (CF everything) exploded. Few times have I felt so glad to be contrarian. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TmA3oIl5pBgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Mexico listmembers?
I grew up in Albuquerque, though now I live outside Boston. Was back there last summer for high school reunion and went on a ride with an old classmate. We'd planned on riding up to the Crest but the road was closed due to fire danger. Instead, we started down in the valley, north up to Paseo, then up Tramway across to the Tijeras Canyon. Rode out the canyon and then looped back to the valley ending at Sadie's for lunch. Almost exactly 50 miles under a blazing July sun. Haven't been that thirsty since I went back East for college. Best tasting Negro Modelo I think I've ever had after that ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nNJzJ5-hAGQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saddlebags for carrying a laptop?
I carry my 15" laptop in a medium and have for years with no sleeve at all. I just added a lyer of foam above the stiffener in the bottom of the sackville. I also have a Nitto quick release handle which makes taking it on and off the bike incredibly easy. On May 9, 6:02 pm, Zack wrote: > I carry a laptop in my large saddlesack (17" Macbook Pro). > > I have it in an incase sleeve, and generally put a jacket or something else > soft underneath the sleeved laptop to help with bumps. > > may be a tight fit in the medium, but the 13 would fit in the large (as > pretty much anything can fit in the large, lol). > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 5:27:16 PM UTC-4, TSW wrote: > > > Sorry if this is a repeat. I'm looking for a way to carry a 13" laptop > > (Macbook Pro 13" to be exact) in something like a Sackville Medium > > saddlebag. I'd like to protect it as well as possible, and am considering > > a hardshell case, such as a Pelican case (1085CC or equivalent). Anyone > > have any experience in securely shlepping a laptop in a saddlebag? > > According to the dimensions, the Sackville Medium is nominally narrower > > than the outside dimensions of the Pelican 1085. But I figure there's some > > give, no? > > > And, my commute will be multi-modal: I'll want to be able to pull it out > > easily for the motorized leg of my trip. > > > I'd like to hear any other solutions and experience. > > > TIA, > > TSW > > Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.
I've got Hetres on my Sam with fenders and they are fantastic. I get about 5,000 miles out of them, with very few flats, maybe one every 2,000 miles on the pair. I ride on the shoulder with the road debris, on single track, whatever, and they're just about perfect in everything but deep mud. I used them for the d2r2 last year and my butt didnt get sore after 75 miles of dirt roads, and going down hills next to guys on skinny tires, I rolled significantly faster. Though maybe that's because gravity likes me a lot. On Mar 27, 9:04 pm, RonaTD wrote: > On Mar 27, 8:00 pm, RonaTD wrote: > > > am having a dickens of a > > itinerary getting them to mount straight on Velocity rims. > > Argh. iOS spell correction and aging eyesight. Sorry about that. I > meant a dickens of a time, not itinerary. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a "go fast-ish" bike
I think of my 650B Sam as a Volvo station wagon. I don't really know for going fast, but as my commute bike I always thought the Sam was relatively fast. I could squeeze out my 25 mile commute in just a smudge under an hour and fifteen minutes, fully loaded with laptop, tools, clothes, whatever. That's if I was motivated to get home in time for dinner. Then I rode a real go fast bike for the first time--a mid 80s custom Bruce Gordon race bike. That thing felt like a Porsche 911 to my Sam Volvo 240. Now, my favorite car ever was a 240, but I never thought of it as fastish. On Mar 27, 11:48 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I owned a single tt Sam, 56 cm, for a few months before I decided I > didn't like the way it handled (mostly with a load: I hated the way it > wandered all over the road when twiddling seated up a steep hill with > a rear load). But my taste in handling apart, it is a wonderfully > versatile bike good for commuting, errands, touring (tho' the tubing > is not as stout as that of a full-on touring bike) and firm dirt > roads. I also own two custom riv road bikes (and sold an earlier one > some years ago). and I must say that, in comparison, the Sam is not a > go fast bike. Of course, much depends on your wheels and tires, but > IMO (5'10", 175, 57) the tubing is just too stout for that light steel > tubing feel, and the top tube too long, at least for someone of my > height, to get the bars low enough for the kind of fast riding I like. > I imagine that, with a second tt, the frame might feel even less > "supple". > > But if I had room and money and miles for another bike, I'd have kept > the Sam for a recreational, unloaded/light load pavement-cum-dirt > rambler. > > Patrick "just enjoyed the gofast feel of my '99 Joe Starck custom 650C > fixie" Moore > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:13 PM, SeanMac wrote: > > I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. > > They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are > > words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities > > that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this > > with a Sam as well? > > > I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike > > built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I > > also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for > > touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much > > fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- > > one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths > > (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride > > (like my Trek). > > > Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to > > be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks. I want to be able > > to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first > > place). However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club > > and recreational rides as well. In fact, the vast majority of rides will > > be 20 - 30 mile "out for fun and exercise" rides. Is the Sam well suited > > to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520? Most likely > > I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack > > Browns. > > > I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will > > be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride. However, > > if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less expensive > > alternative. I don't think that my body has any proportions that would make > > me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 35 inches) so > > I don't think that I need to go custom (though it sure is fun to do so!). > > > Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated. > > > Sean > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qkcBbAgkYc0J. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Medium Saddle Sack and Top Rack
I have this set-up, and it works very well, with one addition: the Nitto quick release Saddlebag Grip. Before I had the grip, I attached it directly to the saddle and zip-tied the bottom of the bag to the rack and it was solid as could be. When I got the grip, I ditched the zip ties, but any swaying I have is minimal. The combo of medium saddle sack/Top Rack/Grip makes this set-up incredibly functional for me. The bag holds my laptop, change of clothes, tools, wallet, etc. The grip acts as a handle for the bag off the bike. Part of my commute is on a train. When I get on the train, it takes me two seconds to take the bag off so I can take my laptop to my seat (free train Wi- Fi!), then it takes me three seconds to put the bag back on when I get off the train, and then when I get to work and put my bike in a storage room, it again takes no time at all to take my bag to my office. It's such a good combo that a co-worker of mine ordered the same set-up, and I'm often asked about where I got it, in particular the grip. My only two negatives on the whole kit is the edges of the metal label on my bag were razor sharp (so sharp it took me a while to figure out where the cuts on my hands were coming from) but I fixed that with a diamond stone, and the straps that attach the bag to the seat (or the grip in my case) aren't quite strong enough to support the 15-20 pounds of stuff I cram in the bag so the leather has stretched. I'll replace the straps with nylon webbing eventually. Burton On May 20, 12:19 pm, "Darin G." wrote: > Anyone using a medium Saddle Sack with a Top Rack? I'd like to fine > tune my commuting setup and I like that bag but I'd want it sitting on > a rack. From the looks of the photos it has the leather tab to slide > over the upright on the top rack but I wonder if the seat tabs are > long enough to reach the seat with it mounted that way. The images on > the photos seem to show it just flopped on top of the rack and not > really fitted to it. The large obviously works well with the rack but > is over kill for my commute. > > D.G. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
