Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to the RH Oracle Ridge [Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2024]

[James M]

I was exhausted yesterday - the Mixed Nuts 55 was no joke - but it was a 
great time.  Next year I'm going to do a ride that hits J.P. Weigle's 
workshop - that sounded like it was very cool.

On Sunday, October 27, 2024 at 10:11:09 PM UTC-4 franco rinaldi wrote:

> Absolutely epic weekend
>
> Franco Rinaldi 
> c:  646.403.0661 <(646)%20403-0661> 
>
> -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message-
>
> On Oct 24, 2024, at 6:16 PM, James M  wrote:
>
> My crew is going to be doing the ATB 55, maybe with an early shortcut to 
> cut it down to 45, if anyone wants to link up.  I'm the guy with the beard 
> and the Hunq :)
>
>
> James
>
> On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 5:19:21 PM UTC-4 gogou...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I am going to do this… Rolling out at 9am 
>> If anyone wants to start early and go slow…
>> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48829096
>>  50 miles with a ferry boat ride, mostly country road
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 5:12 PM maxcr  wrote:
>>
>>> Routes are posted! 
>>> https://ronsbikesblog.com/2024/10/24/nutmeg-noreaster-2024-final-info/
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 9:42:21 PM UTC-4 gogou...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hope to see you all there, I haven’t decided what I’m gonna run, I have 
>>>> done the NorEaster on a few different bikes, there is no perfect bike or 
>>>> tire for this stuff, your either gonna go down the paved parts like a farm 
>>>> tractor or cringe on the ruff stuff. Just for something different, I may 
>>>> stick to the paved and smooth dirt roads this year. Maybe Sam on 38s or 
>>>> even the Heron on 33s…they are both light enough to hike with if 
>>>> needed…unless I see the routes when posted and go with a more robust 
>>>> bike/tire combo.
>>>> I also will have a table, come over and say hello…I will have candy and 
>>>> maybe a little whisky?
>>>> Spencer 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 1:46:04 PM UTC-4 Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was fine on my Sam last year on Ultra Dynamico Cavas I think they 
>>>>> were 42s. I did the medium chunky 35 mile ride. This year I'm planning to 
>>>>> do the full chonk ride. 
>>>>> This being said, my crank and bottom bracket just broke. If I cant get 
>>>>> it fixed in time I'll be on my Sam again, which is anything but a 
>>>>> terrible 
>>>>> situation!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 3:50:55 PM UTC-4 fmri...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This year is my first year and plan on doing the opposite - riding my 
>>>>>> Sam which is a new build instead of my tanglefoot. Any reason why you’re 
>>>>>> switching this year? Is it more of a mtb ride?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .. Franco Rinaldi ..
>>>>>> (c) 646 403 0661 <(646)%20403-0661>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 2:17 PM Davey Two Shoes  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll be there, rode my Sam last year but this year I plan to use my 
>>>>>>> Tanglefoot. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 12, 2024 at 11:24:11 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Re-heading this message:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Max; the TBs are now on my “Alternatives to the OR” list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Next question, to all: What about the Soma Cazadero, in the 622X50 
>>>>>>>> mm size? This gets good reviews, including a “4 thumbs up” by 
>>>>>>>> CyclingAbout, 
>>>>>>>> tho’ I recall Jan panned it several years ago when — I think — it was 
>>>>>>>> made 
>>>>>>>> only in the 42 mm size.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What to RBW-listers who have used the Cazadero think about it’s 
>>>>>>>> directional stability on deep, loose surfaces (gravel, sand) and its 
>>>>>>>> rolling resistance and, especially, how it corners, on pavement?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
&

Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to the RH Oracle Ridge [Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2024]

[James M]

My crew is going to be doing the ATB 55, maybe with an early shortcut to 
cut it down to 45, if anyone wants to link up.  I'm the guy with the beard 
and the Hunq :)

James

On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 5:19:21 PM UTC-4 gogou...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am going to do this… Rolling out at 9am 
> If anyone wants to start early and go slow…
> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/48829096
>  50 miles with a ferry boat ride, mostly country road
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 5:12 PM maxcr  wrote:
>
>> Routes are posted! 
>> https://ronsbikesblog.com/2024/10/24/nutmeg-noreaster-2024-final-info/
>> Max
>>
>> On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 9:42:21 PM UTC-4 gogou...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hope to see you all there, I haven’t decided what I’m gonna run, I have 
>>> done the NorEaster on a few different bikes, there is no perfect bike or 
>>> tire for this stuff, your either gonna go down the paved parts like a farm 
>>> tractor or cringe on the ruff stuff. Just for something different, I may 
>>> stick to the paved and smooth dirt roads this year. Maybe Sam on 38s or 
>>> even the Heron on 33s…they are both light enough to hike with if 
>>> needed…unless I see the routes when posted and go with a more robust 
>>> bike/tire combo.
>>> I also will have a table, come over and say hello…I will have candy and 
>>> maybe a little whisky?
>>> Spencer 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 21, 2024 at 1:46:04 PM UTC-4 Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>>>
 I was fine on my Sam last year on Ultra Dynamico Cavas I think they 
 were 42s. I did the medium chunky 35 mile ride. This year I'm planning to 
 do the full chonk ride. 
 This being said, my crank and bottom bracket just broke. If I cant get 
 it fixed in time I'll be on my Sam again, which is anything but a terrible 
 situation!

 On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 3:50:55 PM UTC-4 fmri...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> This year is my first year and plan on doing the opposite - riding my 
> Sam which is a new build instead of my tanglefoot. Any reason why you’re 
> switching this year? Is it more of a mtb ride?
>
> .. Franco Rinaldi ..
> (c) 646 403 0661 <(646)%20403-0661>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 2:17 PM Davey Two Shoes  
> wrote:
>
>> I'll be there, rode my Sam last year but this year I plan to use my 
>> Tanglefoot. 
>>
>> On Saturday, October 12, 2024 at 11:24:11 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Re-heading this message:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Max; the TBs are now on my “Alternatives to the OR” list.
>>>
>>> Next question, to all: What about the Soma Cazadero, in the 622X50 
>>> mm size? This gets good reviews, including a “4 thumbs up” by 
>>> CyclingAbout, 
>>> tho’ I recall Jan panned it several years ago when — I think — it was 
>>> made 
>>> only in the 42 mm size.
>>>
>>> What to RBW-listers who have used the Cazadero think about it’s 
>>> directional stability on deep, loose surfaces (gravel, sand) and its 
>>> rolling resistance and, especially, how it corners, on pavement?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 6:59 AM maxcr  wrote:
>>>
 I think thunderburts strike the perfect balance between on/off road 
 - I run them tubeless without issues at all (no seeping or anything 
 like 
 that at all)

 For me (I go slow) they corner very well on pavement and I've taken 
 them through pretty rough New England trails with roots, rocks, etc 
 and 
 they've held up very well with no punctures. 

 My new Rosco Bubbe build will have endurance knobbie RH but I 
 haven't tried them yet, so can't compare them.

 Max

 On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 4:46:34 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore 
 wrote:

> Please forgive the tangent, but can you say how well the 
> Thunderburts roll compared to other similar tires, in particular — a 
> reach, 
> here — to the RH Oracle Ridge? 
>
> Also:
>
> Do they corner well on pavement?
>
> Do they hold sealant well — sidewall or bead seep?
>
> How well or badly do they resist punctures?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to the RH Oracle Ridge [Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2024]

[James M]

These were the 2023 routes 
- https://ronsbikesblog.com/2023/10/19/final-noreaster-info/

On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 4:09:47 PM UTC-4 franco rinaldi wrote:

> I haven’t checked the videos. I’m coming off of gorey hollows with analog 
> cycles and not in the mood for hiking so I’m going to lean towards road and 
> gravel if those are options.
>
> Franco Rinaldi 
> c:  646.403.0661 <(646)%20403-0661> 
>
> -Pardon any typos, Siri typed this message-
>
> On Oct 14, 2024, at 4:06 PM, James M  wrote:
>
> Have you checked out the videos and photos from previous years?  Also - 
> Ronnie Romance usually posts the routes the week before the ride, including 
> a tire width recommendation for each route, it feels like 38/42's are 
> usually the recommended minimum.
>
>
> James
>
> On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 3:50:55 PM UTC-4 franco rinaldi wrote:
>
> This year is my first year and plan on doing the opposite - riding my Sam 
> which is a new build instead of my tanglefoot. Any reason why you’re 
> switching this year? Is it more of a mtb ride?
>
> .. Franco Rinaldi ..
> (c) 646 403 0661
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 2:17 PM Davey Two Shoes  
> wrote:
>
> I'll be there, rode my Sam last year but this year I plan to use my 
> Tanglefoot. 
>
> On Saturday, October 12, 2024 at 11:24:11 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Re-heading this message:
>
> Thanks, Max; the TBs are now on my “Alternatives to the OR” list.
>
> Next question, to all: What about the Soma Cazadero, in the 622X50 mm 
> size? This gets good reviews, including a “4 thumbs up” by CyclingAbout, 
> tho’ I recall Jan panned it several years ago when — I think — it was made 
> only in the 42 mm size.
>
> What to RBW-listers who have used the Cazadero think about it’s 
> directional stability on deep, loose surfaces (gravel, sand) and its 
> rolling resistance and, especially, how it corners, on pavement?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 6:59 AM maxcr  wrote:
>
> I think thunderburts strike the perfect balance between on/off road - I 
> run them tubeless without issues at all (no seeping or anything like that 
> at all)
>
> For me (I go slow) they corner very well on pavement and I've taken them 
> through pretty rough New England trails with roots, rocks, etc and they've 
> held up very well with no punctures. 
>
> My new Rosco Bubbe build will have endurance knobbie RH but I haven't 
> tried them yet, so can't compare them.
>
> Max
>
> On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 4:46:34 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Please forgive the tangent, but can you say how well the Thunderburts roll 
> compared to other similar tires, in particular — a reach, here — to the RH 
> Oracle Ridge? 
>
> Also:
>
> Do they corner well on pavement?
>
> Do they hold sealant well — sidewall or bead seep?
>
> How well or badly do they resist punctures?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Alternatives to the RH Oracle Ridge [Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2024]

[James M]

Have you checked out the videos and photos from previous years?  Also - 
Ronnie Romance usually posts the routes the week before the ride, including 
a tire width recommendation for each route, it feels like 38/42's are 
usually the recommended minimum.

James

On Monday, October 14, 2024 at 3:50:55 PM UTC-4 franco rinaldi wrote:

This year is my first year and plan on doing the opposite - riding my Sam 
which is a new build instead of my tanglefoot. Any reason why you’re 
switching this year? Is it more of a mtb ride?

.. Franco Rinaldi ..
(c) 646 403 0661




On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 2:17 PM Davey Two Shoes  wrote:

I'll be there, rode my Sam last year but this year I plan to use my 
Tanglefoot. 

On Saturday, October 12, 2024 at 11:24:11 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

Re-heading this message:

Thanks, Max; the TBs are now on my “Alternatives to the OR” list.

Next question, to all: What about the Soma Cazadero, in the 622X50 mm size? 
This gets good reviews, including a “4 thumbs up” by CyclingAbout, tho’ I 
recall Jan panned it several years ago when — I think — it was made only in 
the 42 mm size.

What to RBW-listers who have used the Cazadero think about it’s directional 
stability on deep, loose surfaces (gravel, sand) and its rolling resistance 
and, especially, how it corners, on pavement?



On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 6:59 AM maxcr  wrote:

I think thunderburts strike the perfect balance between on/off road - I run 
them tubeless without issues at all (no seeping or anything like that at 
all)

For me (I go slow) they corner very well on pavement and I've taken them 
through pretty rough New England trails with roots, rocks, etc and they've 
held up very well with no punctures. 

My new Rosco Bubbe build will have endurance knobbie RH but I haven't tried 
them yet, so can't compare them.

Max

On Thursday, October 10, 2024 at 4:46:34 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

Please forgive the tangent, but can you say how well the Thunderburts roll 
compared to other similar tires, in particular — a reach, here — to the RH 
Oracle Ridge? 

Also:

Do they corner well on pavement?

Do they hold sealant well — sidewall or bead seep?

How well or badly do they resist punctures?

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[RBW] ISO: one Fleecer Ridge tire, used a-ok

[James M]

Hi, all.  I want to test fit a Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge tire on the front 
and rear of my original run Hunqapillar, before dropping the cash on a new 
set.  (I think it's going to be close - pretty sure these first Hunqs were 
spec'd at 2.1")  Anyone have a used tire for sale?

Thanks!

James

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[RBW] Re: Slipping on swept back handlebars

[James M]

I couldn't for the life of me get Ron's Ortho Bars to stop slipping.  I 
switched them out for a Choco-moose and never looked back!  The -moose bars 
are the perfect swept back system for rough terrain.

On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 8:54:25 AM UTC-4 Bill S wrote:

> This is probably not recommended, but I had a pair of choco bars that 
> slipped a bit when I first put them on, and ended up using the old soda can 
> shim trick and it's worked like a charm for about 2 years now.
>
> On Thursday, September 12, 2024 at 2:33:31 AM UTC-4 ricksteves wrote:
>
>> Could always try a 25.4 clamp stem with the 26.0 diameter HBs - the 
>> muscle it takes to get that clamp onto the wider HBs is more than enough to 
>> keep it in place when riding.
>>
>> A faceplater stem is never a bad idea either, since 2 or 4 bolts is more 
>> secure than 1.
>>
>> ~ NJD
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 10, 2024 at 12:45:45 PM UTC-6 Ethan VanValkenburg 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just put some swept back handlebars on my bicycle and I am having 
>>> trouble with slipping. The handlebars sweep back 7 inches or so with a 26mm 
>>> clamp diameter. My stem is a nitto tallux and I'm switching in an old 130mm 
>>> Ritchey stem for more reach, but I'm still worried about the bar slipping. 
>>> Is there a good solution for gripping big bars that increase torque at the 
>>> stem clamp, especially when riding on gravel/off-road? 
>>>
>>> I might be able to tighten it more, but I'm worried that going tighter 
>>> will strip or deform the bolt. Do folks ever use thread-locker or some 
>>> adhesive for extra stick? Or do I need a 2-4 bolt faceplate stem for the 
>>> extra gripping strength?
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any tips/tricks/ideas! Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ethan
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS -looong winter storm list

[James M]

Rich - did you ever sell the Mafac Raids?

James

On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 8:39:19 PM UTC-5 richdpow...@gmail.com wrote:

> (x-posted riv/ibob)
>
>
> Thank you to everyone who bought an item or two. Everything has been 
> mailed. I've added a few minor items. I’ve reduced some prices and 
> included postage/shipping for many.  
>
>
> Please get in touch with me off-list with any questions. RichDPowers at 
> Gmail.com
>
>
> Rich- Waiting for the heat wave next week in Iowa
>
>
> Pictures at: https://goo.gl/photos/7FKym17mpqFnDNFA7 
>  
>
> Shifters/Derailleurs
>
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>
> Shimano 5-speed sis shifter set- pair $6
>
> Campagnolo Veloce front derailleur triple-bottom pull 1 ⅛” clamp diameter 
> excellent condition. About a 1994/5 model year.  $40 mailed
>
> NEW Shimano 8-speed RIGHT trigger shifter- SL-M315-8r Altus  $ 15mailed  
>
> SRAM APEX 10-speed PAIR shift/brake levers- NOS -were take-offs. $165 
> mailed
>
> Handlebars and such
>
> ONZA L-shaped bar-ends old-school fun. A little surface rust $12 mailed 
>
> DIMENSION Quill Stem Adaptor Converts 1" fork to 1-1/8" threadless. Allows 
> for a threadless stem to work with a threaded fork. Black $22
>
> Terry precision bar 38 mm c to c 26.0 silver used as pictured  $15
>
>
> Brakes/Brake Levers 
>
> MAFAC-RAID brake set F &R with wires, hangers, and fork cable stop. $125 
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[RBW] Re: Bar Tape and/or Grips on an Albatross Bar

[James M]

I really like to use Oury grips with bar end shifters.  First I slice off 
the flange at the end, then I orient the grooves that run the length of the 
grips so one lines up with the shifter cable.  Then I use twine around the 
perpendicular grooves t lock the shifter cable into place.  Sorry - no 
photos, but hopefully it makes sense if you look at a photo of Oury grips.  
It works great!

On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 9:03:10 AM UTC-4 Steve wrote:

> Doug, I have used the following approach to run bar end shifter cabling 
> beneath ESI grips: 
> - Remove the shifters from the bars and fully withdraw the cable from the 
> housing.
> - Re-insert the cable into the housing leaving the shifter out of the 
> equation at this point.
> - Secure the housing with the cable in place to the bars by taping it just 
> forward of the area which will be covered by the grip. Let the cable extend 
> an inch or so  beyond the end of the bar.
> - Lubricate the interior of the grip and  the bar along with the cable 
> with a suitable product. I recommend alcohol gel hand sanitizer. (once the 
> alcohol evaporates the grip will be secure)
> - Slide the grip over the bar and cable housing - douse the bar with 
> additional sanitizer if necessary. Work quickly.
> - With the grip in place adjust  the position of the housing then withdraw 
> the cable.
> - Install the mount for the shifter and then thread the cable through the 
> shifter lever, the mount and back into the housing. 
> - Pull or push the cable forward to bring the lever into position on its 
> mount and secure it in place. 
> - There you have it!
>
> Steve
> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 4:37:14 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I just recently installed Albatrass bars on my new to me Roadini. I also 
>> installed bar end shifters. I'm thinking I'll wrap Newbaums tape for grips 
>> but am considering some padding in the grip area. Has anyone used padding 
>> or been able to slide an ESI type of grip over the shifters? I've also 
>> considered splitting an ESI grip and wrapping that with Newbaums. Any 
>> examples or ideas would be most appreciated.
>> Doug
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

[James M]

This is such great news.  Just read all the posts on her new blog!

On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 3:38:11 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> And Velouria has an April 2024 post!
>
> Leah might want to read back issues of Lovely Bicycle; Velouria/Constance 
> had a similar bike journey, including Rivendells and customs, from cycling 
> urban Boston to brevets, IIRC.
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 1:30 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> "I have to look up what “on the ramps” means. "
>>
>> Five hand-positions, defined and illustrated, by the lovely "Lovely 
>> Bicycle":
>>
>>
>> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/06/drop-bar-hand-positions-introduction.html
>>
>> BL in EC
>> On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 11:16:35 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All of these replies are interesting. And when I read one I think, “Yes, 
>>> that’s right” and then read another which conflicts and change my mind. 
>>> This is going to be a journey. I can’t even believe how much there is to 
>>> know.
>>>
>>> I’m later getting here than the rest of you, I think. It was 2012 when I 
>>> first realized there were better bikes than the Walmart Schwinn I was 
>>> pulling my preschoolers around with. I got a Betty Foy with the biggest 
>>> racks and baskets money could buy and away we went. So happy! Still knowing 
>>> nothing! 
>>>
>>> Now those boys are in high school, and I live in a vibrant bike 
>>> community and suddenly it’s a whole new world for me. Every riding season I 
>>> end up learning and being stretched. I’m doing new kinds of rides, meeting 
>>> lots of people, volunteering on bike committees, and venturing a lot 
>>> further from home. 5 years ago I would never have believed I’d ride a 
>>> metric century or enjoy club riding. This is all wonderful, but I’m 
>>> hamstrung by my lack of experience. I always thought drop bars would have 
>>> to be uncomfortable. It wasn’t until this thread that I even considered 
>>> trying them. Are they a rite of passage? “Oh, you’ll never use them forever 
>>> but just scratch the itch now so you can say you have.” Or are they the 
>>> gold standard “They’ve been used for 100 years for good reason.” I worry 
>>> I’m too late to start using them after all this time on albatross and 
>>> Billies. I have to look up what “on the ramps” means. I don’t know what the 
>>> “right” geometry is for a road bike belonging to a devoted Rivendell rider 
>>> would be. I dread being uncomfortable. I fear screwing up with the new drop 
>>> bars and crashing in a peloton. I have no idea what shifters I’d put on 
>>> drop bars. I thought albastache might be a good compromise but heard they 
>>> aren’t wrist-neutral and then that they are. So.Much.To.Know. But 
>>> everything I do now scares me, so let’s go.
>>>
>>> Keep your replies coming! I read every one, even if I don’t respond, I 
>>> am definitely thinking about them and chatting with other RivSisters who 
>>> have similar questions.
>>>
>>> Thanks for taking the time!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 1:31:40 PM UTC-4 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>>>
 Hi Leah -

 I would generally agree with what Ted said. Riding position and fit are 
 very important. But I don't think that's the only criteria I would use. I 
 have ten bikes. Five are Rivs. I have a Custom, Quickbeam, Roadeo, Ram and 
 Hubbuhubbuh. I find that geometry is important in my riding. Some bikes 
 can 
 be more "twitchy" and/or less stable because of their geometry. Things 
 like 
 trail, head and seat tube angles and bottom bracket drop can affect the 
 handling and stability of a bike. I don't get hung up on numbers, and 
 judge 
 the handling and stability based on how a bike rides.

 All of my Rivs are rock-solid stable and handle exceptionally well. I 
 know that the low center of gravity, trail and angles contribute to this. 
 Stability and handling are very important to me because I ride lots of 
 hills. Going uphill depends on gears, fitness and leg strength. The 
 stability and handling come into play going downhill. Rivs provide a level 
 of confidence I don't get on other bikes. You can be sure the bike will go 
 where you point it.

 About Albastache and Mustache bars - I have five bikes (some of them 
 Rivs) with Mustache and Albastache bars. I find I can get every bit as low 
 on Mustache and Albastache bars as on drop bars. The rest of my bikes have 
 drop bars. The main thing I like about drop bars is riding the hoods. On 
 drops, I find there are primarily three hand positions: 1) on the hoods, 
 2) 
 on the ramps (slightly farther back than on the hoods) and 3) on the flats 
 on either side of the stem. I rarely get into the drops. With the 
 Albastache and Mustache, I find I have more riding positions.

 Have fun on your road bike, whatever you get.

 Regards,


 Corwin
 On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at

Re: [RBW] Nitto/Riv Bullmoose thoughts

[James M]

Lovely bullmooses in here.  I have the choco-moose on my Hunq - which I 
love - but I'm intrigued about the possibilities of the bullmoose for trail 
riding...

James

On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 11:38:08 AM UTC-4 larson@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: IMG_2484.jpeg][image: 
> E3DC21C4-E0AA-43EF-91A3-DF38B9CDA3DD.jpeg][image: 
> IMG_2597.jpeg]Thanks P.W. - here are three more.
> Randy in WI
>
>
> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 10:20:59 AM UTC-5 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> I like'em and rode them today.
>> A couple notes:
>> 1. Integrated stem - less adjustability. Can't play with stem 
>> (horizontal)length/reach nor rise/drop
>> 2. Cant slam it completely, if you wanted/needed to, bc of built in rise
>> 3. No clamp = no slippage there
>> 4. Sweep angle, reach etc. - to each their own
>>
>> I have them all the way up on an old ('84?) StumpJumper and that setup 
>> handles bad, terrible with a front load, but I blame that on the super 
>> slack head tube angle.
>>
>> Send unwanted bullmoosees to me please :)
>> Happy to trade for drops or something 
>>
>> Next build gets the chocomoose or Bosco moose I forget. 
>>
>> -Matthew P
>> San Diego / Kumeyaay
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 6:25 AM P W  wrote:
>>
>>> Love that big boy Appa, Randy.
>>>
>>> More photos, please!
>>>
>>> P. W.
>>> ~
>>> (917) 514-2207
>>> ~
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2024, at 5:38 AM, larson@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am a fan of the bullmoose bars. On my 62cm Appaloosa I like them when 
>>> the bike is set up as my ATB with bigger tires and more off road ready. I 
>>> initially thought they were too stiff as I had some wrist and shoulder 
>>> pain.Ergon grips solved this issue and I find them comfortable. I do set my 
>>> bike up with Billie bars during the summer for road/gravel riding, and like 
>>> them as well. I like the aesthetic of the bullmoose and probably could make 
>>> them work for all of my riding.
>>> Randy in WI
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 12:25:56 AM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote:
>>>
 Serious thanks to everyone for the photos & advice! I think I'm going 
 to go for a set. Seems like looking at the photos it will suit my height, 
 build, and even my setup on the Atlantis. I set my Cheviot back up with 
 Albatross bars and while there's nothing wrong with having multiple bikes 
 with the same bar, variety is just more fun. 
 On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 10:14:44 PM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:

> I have a pair that i used to have on my appaloosa. I’m around 6’1-2” 
> and i really like the width and sweep. On my ‘21 appaloosa the reach was 
> good, some might consider it too long. i think itd probably be nice on an 
> older atlantis, just assuming that it would have a shorter top tube. very 
> solid bars of course, no flexy. One of the coolest looking bars, I’ll 
> always have them in the collection i think, I’m a perpetual bar swapper. 
> I 
> have the tig version, wish they were the fillet but both are good. 
>
> On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 10:47:03 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Max,
>>
>> I was just about to say your SimpleOne is the perfect bike.
>>
>> Clearly we have overlapping tastes!
>>
>> Our green bikes should be friends.
>>
>> - Philip
>>
>> P. W.
>> ~
>> (917) 514-2207
>> ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2024, at 7:39 PM, Max S  wrote:
>>
>> I've tried them on my (dearly departed) SimpleOne, my QuickBeam, and 
>> even my Serotta. Great bars, and I could even use the forward extension 
>> to 
>> get low and fast. I still have these bars, waiting to be put back on the 
>> QB 
>> to make it into the tracklocross hoon wagon that it wants to be. At a 
>> hair 
>> over 6' tall, I felt the bar was a little too wide for me, and I've been 
>> tempted to cut it down a bit. For you, the width might be perfect. As 
>> far 
>> as commuting goes, I'm of the opinion that for commuting involving city 
>> streets, a narrow bar is better. If your commute involves some dirt, or 
>> the 
>> bike gets used for different things and the commute doesn't involve cars 
>> passing close, then bar width is maybe of less consequence. Also, if 
>> you're 
>> running a loaded front bag or basket, and the head tube angle is < 72 
>> and 
>> trail is >45 mm, IMO, the wider bar and rearward position really help 
>> with 
>> steering. 
>>
>> - Max "the ghosts of bikes past" in A2
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 10:03:43 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>>
>>> Hi exliontamer. I'm a little bit taller than you, also with broad 
>>> shoulders, burly, and I have a Toyo Atlantis (61) with a Nitto-Riv 
>>> Bullmoose. I like the bar, it looks great, and I love the integrated 
>>> stem. 
>>> Aesthetically I think the Bullmo

[RBW] Re: Spring Cleaning--Handlebars, Brakes, Stems, Bags

[James M]

Hey, Conway.  What color is that Squall Sack?

James

On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 8:18:59 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> 46cm Fairweather Nitto 174aa short shallow Noodle drop bars with lots of 
> scratches. $90 net-to-me shipped.
>
> New-in-box Box Three mini-v brakes.  I have two pairs each of both red and 
> silver.  If you're not familiar, think of these as the poor man's Paul 
> Components Mini Moto.  $45 per wheel net-to-me shipped.
>
> New-without-box Tektro TRP RRL drop bar brake levers in all black.  $65 
> net-to-me shipped.
>
> New-in-box Dia-Compe Tech 77 Brake Levers (Black/Silver) for short pull 
> brakes.  $65 net-to-me shipped.
>
> New-in-box Velo Orange threadless stem with 40 mm reach and 31.8 clamp. 
>  $47 net-to-me shipped.
>
> New Analog/Fifth Season Squall Sack for Wald Baskets $90 net-to-me shipped.
>
> Barely used (I could lie and call it new) Bags X Bird Better Half - Small 
> Short (S-M Bikes) in Coyote X-Pac with metal hooks.  $120 net-to-me shipped.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Conway 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Jumbo Rosco Bubbe Iditabike

[James M]

Beautiful bike!

On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 11:35:50 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Nice bike but what size is it?  I only the sizes Riv offers.  I'm on the 
> short end 47.  When was it built?  Was it a protoype for the Betty Foy or 
> Cheviot?
> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 7:03:57 PM UTC-5 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> This legitimately might be one of the coolest niche Rivendell builds I've 
>> seen. *slowly leaves room to avoid impulse decisions* 
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 3:15:55 PM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> I thought the day would never come! Really cool bike Kai. I'm sure 
>>> you'll find it a new home.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 5:33:04 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>>> NY wrote:
>>>
 Multiple Roscos and multiple bills aren’t adding up, and ever since I 
 put it together, it hasn’t snowed😩. So here for sale is the bestest bike 
 for the larger folks out there. I think it measures 64 at the seat tube, 
 but I’ve got a geometry chart somewhere I’ll plug in here asap. 
 Pictures
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/U18G3VtrhaWFDisWA
 Some weird rare parts, some not. Heartily patinated racks with 
 internally wired dynamo lights and handmade wooden fenders (pretty 
 lightweight actually). Racks and fenders made by me, the front rack can 
 carry anything you can get into some panniers, with the rear rack only 
 ever 
 having held that light there and the fender steady, as I’m hesitant to 
 load 
 up the back of toptubeless frame. 
 I’m keeping the grips and the seat, but everything else you see is 
 included. Also included is a new Mavic 319 rim for when you’d like to swap 
 out the front. Rear wheel came with my Clem and hasn’t seen much of the 
 world.
 Very rare! Highly collectible?!
 $2000.
 Thanks for looking, and happy rolling to all
 -Kai




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Re: [RBW] Re: NYC Riv Ride?

[James M]

I'm in NJ too - Essex County, but I get out to Frenchtown every once in a 
while.  Sounds like a lovely ride for the spring!

James in South Orange

On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 10:01:55 PM UTC-5 Robert Blunt wrote:

> I am in Pennington NJ and prefer trails. The Delaware has trails on both 
> the PA side and the NJ side that are a nice way to spend a whole day. I 
> usually leave from the Washington Crossing State Park parking lot in 
> Titusville, ride north to Lambertville, cross the bridge into New Hope and 
> then catch the trail again north of town. All the way to Frenchtown (back 
> on the NJ side) is about forty miles back to the parking lot, but there is 
> also a nice turn around point in Lumbreville where you can get something to 
> eat at the General Store there. There is a footbridge that crosses the 
> river there right next to the Black Bass Hotel to get over to the NJ side. 
> The NJ side has better trail conditions but the PA side is prettier with 
> better river views. So I often take the PA trail back as well until New 
> Hope, back over to Lambertville, and south to Titusville. I am on 
> sabbatical this semester so I will have time to ride on Tuesdays and 
> Thursdays once I get my new Saluki up and running.
>
> Robert Blunt
> Pennington, NJ
>
> On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 5:05 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds fun!
>> The Putnam trail North of Van Cortland is pretty, and ridiculously safe 
>> with decent enough parking for those carventuring in. 
>> But I f it’s excitement and real city feels everyone’s craving, maybe a 
>> “every bridge (with bike access) from the Henry Hudson down to the 
>> Brooklyn” ride? That’s a fun zipper to zip.
>> -Kai
>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 1:26:15 PM UTC-5 Caroline Golum wrote:
>>
>>> Seeing the LA Riv Ride post got me thinking! Anyone in the NYC area 
>>> interested in a weekend ride this month? It's chilly, but we can handle it!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho vs. Nitto Albatross

[James M]

Another Choco-moose lover here.  I had a set of Ortho bars from the first 
run that I sold off.  I just couldn't keep them from slipping in the stem 
on trails - so much leverage!  Switching over to a moose-style bar has been 
perfect for me - they ain't going anywhere!

James

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:44:18 AM UTC-5 Paul M wrote:

> I've been riding with the Choco-Moose handlebar for years and the "narrow 
> 55cm" width has been fine for on road and off. Even though in the back of 
> my mind, the general cycling community has been pushing wider handlebars. 
> This moose style handlebar has a fixed rise, reach, width and downward tilt 
> of the bars which is perfect for me. It does need a longish top tube to 
> work best.
>
> On Monday, 4 December 2023 at 17:48:44 UTC-8 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all for the great input on different bars and their 
>> applications. 
>>
>> When I first tried Albatross bars on my Bleriot, I could not get 
>> comfortable with them. Fifteen years later the Albatross bars are my 
>> favorite. I use them on a 58cm LHT. 
>>
>> I recently experienced shoulder pain when I tried (much) wider upright 
>> bars. I swam long distances for decades and am now careful with my worn 
>> shoulders. Somewhere I read that it's important to keep the arms 'in the 
>> box' (i.e. within the width of the box established by the shoulders) during 
>> exercise. It seems to work very well with this scrawny six-foot-tall 
>> person. I'm fairly upright on the LHT, with the bars about 2.5" above the 
>> B68 saddle. 
>>
>> I'm curious to try some of the narrower Toscos sometime. The way the bars 
>> can be tilted so that the grips tilt toward the downtube is intriguing. No 
>> rush, but someday. 
>>
>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:02:28 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> If you were to overlay Toscos (the 650mm version) over top of some 
>>> Orthos like that, you would find them nearly the same in just about every 
>>> way... for anyone pining for some unobtainable Ortho bars.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 3:46 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
 I am late to this party & I may not be much help but… I’ve been running 
 Bosco bars on my two bikes - a Clem & a Gus. They are pretty much perfect. 
 Except that the Gus begs to be ridden harder on singletrack than I was 
 comfortable with. After much deliberation I took a flyer & installed a 
 “Albacore” handlebar from Hope Cyclery. It’s wide @ 785. It has a forward 
 sweep before coming back & a very comfortable & confidence inspiring 50-60 
 degrees. It necessitated ditching my 90mm stem for a 35mm one. These 
 changes transformed the Gus. The part of this that might apply to your 
 situation; wide bars feel great on the trails, experimentation can be fun 
 & 
 rewarding.
 [image: image0.jpeg]
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 4, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Chris K  wrote:

 J, question about your mothbars - do you find yourself ever using 
 other hand positions?

 Intrigued by this bar but it looks like holding on anywhere but the 
 ends would be awkward with such a wide bar.

 On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 4:20:31 PM UTC-6 J wrote:

> I've always had problems with swept back bars, tried many over the 
> years from Riv, Velo O, Soma and the Albatross bar lasted the longest (6 
> months?) on any bike but they were never really comfortable either. 
> Everything always felt too narrow for my shoulder width and gave me neck 
> pain. I had an opportunity to try the Tumbleweed Persuader bars on my 
> hardtail, and even though the back sweep threw the fit off it still got 
> my 
> gears turning about wider swoopy bars. I widened some Albatross bars in a 
> vice and really felt like I was getting somewhere but started having 
> saddle 
> comfort issues from riding upright again, an issue I've always had. Last 
> year I got to try Ron's Ortho bars on his Atlantis and they felt 
> ridiculous 
> in the moment, but a day later I was still thinking about them. They'd 
> been 
> sold out for so long I gave up and sourced some Magic Components 
> Mothbars, 
> and they've been great! They turned an old aluminum mtb I wasn't riding 
> into a bike I'd happily take for a casual ride under 30 miles. 
>
> [image: 2xzuKpol[1].jpg]
> [image: JMRTj5Ql[1].jpg]
> [image: 6ySLdfsl[1].jpg]
> [image: TPvZVebl[1].jpg]
>
> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 3:01:00 PM UTC-4 exliontamer wrote:
>
>> The Albatross is my favorite upright bar. I'm a fairly tall guy with 
>> fairly big hands and it really only has 1 1/2 hand positions for me but 
>> I 
>> love the feel of it. It's stiff enough for trails, upright enough to 
>> commute on, etc. They live on my older Toyo Atlantis. I do think the 
>> newer 
>> revisions like the Billie work a lot better for newer 

[RBW] Re: Brooks B72 Reissued!

[James M]

I have a B72 on my Hunq - I 3D printed (well, had an online service do 
it) a 2-rail saddle adapter in glass-filled nylon, using this pattern 
- https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3143229.  It's going on 2 years and has 
worked great.  Awesome that Brooks is reissuing this though and making an 
adapter!

James in North Jersey

On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 1:52:10 PM UTC-5 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> FYI for anyone that hasn't already noticed the resurrection of the B72 
> model.
> https://theradavist.com/brooks-b72-review/
>
> I know the B68 gets a bit more attention as the wide, unsprung, single 
> rail model that is plug & play with modern seatpost clamps but I thought 
> this was interesting news to share for anyone that might like to find 
> something of a middle ground between the unsprung models and the large coil 
> springs found on the Flyer/Conquest and other sprung, more upright saddles.
>
> Not sure when the new Brooks adapter kit will actually become available as 
> it's not yet on their site (as of earlier this morning) and Radavist only 
> mentions 'next week'  with their 11/30 article but seems they'll be 
> obtainable soon.
>
> I have an old B72 with a condition pretty much matching that of the one 
> installed on the Ritchey in the photos of the Radavist link.  My own came 
> off a mid 70's Raleigh Sports I picked up used.  I treated the leather a 
> handful of times and eventually used it on my Clem with a Breezer double 
> rail adapter until it sagged enough to hit the top of the seatpost clamp on 
> even mild bumps.  I retired it before it broke rather than keep stretching 
> the old leather with more and more bolt adjustments as a few spots started 
> to crack and flake.  I also kind of just like the look of the saddle and 
> unique spring design so wanted to keep an old example intact.
>
> We also have a B18 with the same rail and spring design as the B72 on my 
> spouse's three speed (I had sadly slept on the limited Raspberry color when 
> it was available so we only have a brown.)  That bike gets much less use 
> lately but I built it up as a nice resto-mod using the best condition parts 
> between our two matching Raleigh's, got rebuilt wheels on the original hubs 
> with new alloy rims, etc. so the new embossed saddle was an additional 
> splurge.  My own Sports turned into more of a franken-build but was a fun 
> project, albeit too small and short lived.
>
> I had one of the Conquest re-issues but the narrower shape just didn't fit 
> me even on a more aggressive, bar-below-saddle build so I sold or traded 
> away the Conquest.  I do not necessarily recall a distinct difference in 
> the suspended feeling between the Conquest and Brooks as much as I did in 
> the overall fit, shape, and design.
>
> I have no real need for a new B72 at the moment but might go for the new 
> adapter kit, when available, and play around to see how my old one fits 
> some spare seatposts with the different sets of bolts and see if I find a 
> good match that may offer greater under saddle to top of clamp clearance 
> than I had on the 1-bolt post I used on the Clem with the old B72.
>
> Brian Cole
> Lawrence NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2023

[James M]

How was the ride?  I missed it this year due to a work trip.  Last time my 
crew made it up was 2021 (a fabulous year) and I'm itching to get back.

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:45:18 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

>
> Yes it looks terrible! Hope still fun tho  
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:20:51 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> The forecast is getting worse the closer we get! 
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-10-16 at 4.33.11 PM.png]
>>
>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 11:25:02 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be there again, this time on a big ol pistachio Romanceur 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:58:35 PM UTC-4 lyon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I'm going to add a mermaid gus to the mix--see you out there!

 Adam in Portland

 On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 9:26:52 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

>
> Most excellent! Looking forward to it and hoping the forecast 
> improves. 
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:52:35 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Justin and Stephen — I'll be on my Appaloosa so that'll be three 
>> mermaid frames... at least! 
>>
>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:56:46 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Yep that was me!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:23:52 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Stephen, i met you outside Luigi’s a couple weeks ago?? 
 On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:09:28 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> I’ll be there on the appa!
>
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 7:50:36 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. 
> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> Some day…
>> Have fun!
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 4:07:20 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patch! see ya there ;-)
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>>
 MEEE - but you knew that :)

 Patch in Brooklyn

 On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:16:37 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
 wrote:

> Curious if anyone else from the RBW Owners Bunch will be there 
> this year. If so, would love to say hello! I'll be on my mermaid 
> Platy.
>
> Cheers-
>


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[RBW] Re: Most Discreet Bell Placement

[James M]

Re Spurcycle price - they have a "Frankenbell" sale every fall where you 
can get a good deal on blems.  Mine looks perfect, couldn't ID any quality 
issues.

On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:57:03 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tom: I love a stem-shifter-mounted bell, very cool that the thread pitches 
> are the same. I've never run one myself but I have threaded a bell onto a 
> stem shifter in my shop just to try it out. 
>
> Another install I like is a Crane E-ne mounted to the downtube shifter 
> boss, seen here on a Crust Romanceur with a one-by drivetrain. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2023-07-12 at 7.52.28 AM.png]
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I indicated that I had bought a Crane ENE.  That one ended up under the 
>> top tube on my Black Mountain Monstercross: 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53021867018
>>
>> BL in EC
>> On Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I bought three (3!!!) bells at Blue Heron yesterday.  I've got a number 
>>> of bell-less bikes and the shame has become too much.  All three were 
>>> Japanese Crane models. 
>>>
>>> 1. A hand painted one will clamp to the stem quill on my Quickbeam
>>> 2. A "Spur-Like" ENE model will go on my Hetchins
>>> 3. A headset-spacer model will get disassembled, and I'm going to drill 
>>> and tap an M5 hole into the side of my CNC aluminum Cinelli Sesamo stem on 
>>> my Single Speed Lightning Bolt.  That will be my entry for "most 
>>> discreet".  
>>>
>>> Pics or it didn't happen
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 9:25:34 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:
>>>
 Here's nice image of most discreet placement of the best looking, 
 smartly engineered richest sounding, bicycle bell *ever* made. That's 
 my story and I'm sticking to it  *;  )*

 Jock

 [image: IMG_0810.jpeg]

>>>

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[RBW] WTB: Fairweather Ongr bag

[James M]

Probably unlikely, but can't hurt to ask.  Looking for one of these 
- https://global.bluelug.com/fairweather-ongr-bag.html

James

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Re: [RBW] Bike route mapping & guidance app for iPhone

[James M]

Another vote for RWGPS.  I use it with my phone and a Quad Lock mount.  
Great route planning on the computer.

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 3:16:19 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Another RideWithGPS user - it has been my go to for route creation (and 
> ride/mileage tracking) for a long time and it has continued to improve in 
> its ease of use. I usually export routes and load them onto a Garmin GPS or 
> into my phone for use with various apps.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 2:28:25 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Another vote for RideWithGPS + iPhone and/or computer (mine, a Wahoo 
>> Element).
>>
>> Patch, still always lost in, and around, NYC
>> On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 2:12:40 PM UTC-4 jacob...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Ridewithgps lets you build routes on your pc and navigate them through 
>>> the iPhone app. It does audible directions as well. Normally I build the 
>>> route on my computer and then load the ride on my bike computer (Hammerhead 
>>> Karoo or Wahoo Element). I have just used the iPhone app at times. Works 
>>> great. Komoot should do the job too but I’m not as familiar with it. 
>>>
>>> Cheers, 
>>>
>>> Jacob
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 1, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Thanks to the car-centric development of this our Southwestern city we 
>>> often have destinations only a few miles away that you can't ride to on 
>>> direct, paved routes. OTOH, thanks to our extensive dirt trails, there are 
>>> often off-road workarounds that, if they add 50% or more to the total 
>>> distance are pleasant to ride -- and after all, one rides for pleasure; or 
>>> I hope one does.
>>>
>>> I have to take a computer in to a shop tomorrow. By 6-lane boulevard and 
>>> resulting horrible intersections it's 3.3 miles, but per Google maps there 
>>> is apparently a combined residential street-cum-dirt trail route that can 
>>> get me there.
>>>
>>> The trouble is that it's complicated enough that I have a hard time 
>>> following it on my 42" professional screen. Also, I am rather "spatially 
>>> dyslexic:" I don't easily comprehend spatial directions, relations, and 
>>> distances -- generally I painstakingly work out complicated routes on a 
>>> verbal instruction sheet.
>>>
>>> I cannot use Google Maps or on a 2" iPhone screen.
>>>
>>> But: is there some miracle phone app that will, say, let you pick out 
>>> such a route on a big screen and transfer it to a phone where the app will 
>>> walk you through the turns and distances?
>>>
>>> Otherwise, I'll stick to writing out route marker lists.
>>>
>>> Aside: When I drive with my daughter, she gauged routes using Siri to 
>>> operate a direction app that would nag you to turn in "100 yards" or what 
>>> have you. But (1) I will *not* talk to a ddogamned machine, and (2) the 
>>> routes in question involve paths that I expect are not inside Google or 
>>> Apple systems.
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, who from time to time revisits Robin Williams very funny 
>>> Siri putdown on Ellen DeGeneres.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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[RBW] Re: FS: Blue Lug work hat

[James M]

Sold quickly to a good home!

James

On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 10:30:22 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Thanks for looking out for me, Eric. Rivendell fans/owners are some of the 
> greatest humans out there.
>
> On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 11:28:04 PM UTC-4 James wrote:
>
>> Also interested.  I sent you a pm
>>
>> On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 9:01:01 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Johnny has been asking around for one of these in a handful of threads, 
>>> I hope we can politely hold out for him? 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 5:15:15 PM UTC-4 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Sending this one back into the world.  I bought it from J J, also tried 
 it on once, and also decided it wasn't for me.  It's a cool hat though.  I 
 even tried to convince my teenager that it would look good on her, but to 
 no avail.  Selling for the same $58 (shipped) that I bought it for.  Photo 
 below is a snip from J J's thread, I'll post a real photo tonight.

 James

 [image: Screenshot 2023-04-20 171219.jpg]

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride in Asheville NC?

[James M]

I would love to know more about Asheville area routes, once you folks do 
this.  I was down there at the beginning of April for a couple of days and 
definitely need to go back.  (I just wish it wasn't such a looong drive 
from northern NJ.)

James

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:54:11 AM UTC-4 frank.b...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all - I have been quietly tracking this conversation and am looking at 
> my work & life calendars to see if it is a feasible trip for me. I will be 
> traveling from Richmond, VA and appreciate all the thinking and effort to 
> get this going!
> -Frank 
>
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 9:48:02 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Hi Pam! So glad you’re interested and hope you can make it. We will 
>> certainly have lots of options ride-wise but haven’t nailed anything down 
>> yet. Certainly lots of road and greenway options. Some of the gravel fire 
>> roads are pretty mellow too. And we’ll definitely have time built in pre 
>> and post ride for socializing, and I love your idea of a swap/sale/trade 
>> opportunity. Maybe we could even let folks post what they are thinking 
>> about bringing to make it more interesting.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 12:03:21 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to try to come.  I'd like roads.  What mileage options are we 
>>> thinking about?  Obviously I would like plenty of time to see all the bikes 
>>> and meet all the owners so plenty of stops along the way and some time at 
>>> the beginning and end of the rides would be great.  Want to bring stuff to 
>>> swap/sell/trade?  Want to have anything else like seeing gear such as 
>>> favorite bags, tents, accoutrements?  Let me know how I can help.  Let 
>>> me know if anyone wants to carpool from Charlotte or stop through on the 
>>> way there or back.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 1:46:14 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Gary! I’m definitely free then. I’ll see if I can round up a few 
 other Riv riders here in Kentucky!

 - Brian

 On Apr 12, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Jason D  wrote:

 Thank you Gary! This sounds like an awesome time.



 On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi from Asheville,
> Wanted to let folks know that we've currently got 5-8 local Riv riders 
> and 3+ (thanks Laing, Brian, Jason, and maybe George for letting me know) 
> that have said they'd be able to make the weekend of July 7-9 work for 
> them, so let's make that the official date for our Asheville meet up. If 
> anyone else would like to join us please let me know! Also happy to 
> answer 
> any questions if you're iffy or want more info.
> Cheers, 
> Gary
>
> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 11:56:46 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the clarification, Gary! Those potential dates work better 
>> for me, personally. I have no plans for the month of July, and I am 
>> freed 
>> up after Sept. 10th for some bike fun. Hoping something can materialize 
>> for 
>> these new dates!
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 11:41:18 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> That's correct - the May 12-14 date didn't work out so the July/Sept 
>>> dates were thrown out to see if more folks would be able to join.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 10:41:19 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 So, just to get this straight... did the previously proposed 
 weekend of May 12-14th not work well enough for everyone? I was not 
 going 
 to be free that weekend, but if it's looking like a July date might be 
 better for more people, then I may just be able to make that happen.

 On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 3:06:19 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi George,
> Probably not going into TN. We were talking about riding locally 
> at Bent Creek and the WNC Arboretum, possibly the River Arts District 
> bike 
> path, and maybe a low traffic road ride around Montford and North 
> Asheville. With plenty of opportunities for brewery refreshments/food 
> during or after the rides.
>
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 3:00:03 PM UTC-4 George Schick 
> wrote:
>
>> When you all call for a Riv ride "in" Asheville do you mean going 
>> over to ride the loop at Cades Cove in Tennessee by any chance?  
>> Just 
>> curious.
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:07:20 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I will be in North Carolina from July 1 thru July 9 - The 
>>> weekend before thru the weekend after July 4. That would be the 
>>> best for me.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:58:12 AM 

[RBW] FS: Blue Lug work hat

[James M]

Sending this one back into the world.  I bought it from J J, also tried it 
on once, and also decided it wasn't for me.  It's a cool hat though.  I 
even tried to convince my teenager that it would look good on her, but to 
no avail.  Selling for the same $58 (shipped) that I bought it for.  Photo 
below is a snip from J J's thread, I'll post a real photo tonight.

James

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[RBW] Re: 2023 Nutmeg Country Spring Fling

[James M]

I already have a bike camping trip with folks out at the Delaware Water Gap 
that weekend, otherwise would definitely go.  I am planning to go back for 
another Nor'Easter in October though - have had the calendar marked for 
that in ink!

James

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 8:57:59 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> I'm planning on going for the atb route, driving from NYC. I've got room 
> for one more person+bike if someone wants to hop in for the ride. 
>
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 2:31:21 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Gary,
>>
>> I saw that! I've got it on my calendar now. Let me know as I'd love to 
>> drive up and go on a ride with y'all.
>>
>> - Drew
>>
>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 6:01:34 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Drew,
>>> Saw your post about a Southeastern ride - we've been talking on the 
>>> forum about a Riv weekend in asheville July 7-9. Let me know if you're 
>>> interested and we'll keep you posted on planning as it gets more dialed in.
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 11:49:18 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Been mulling it over too Eric, but the drive up from Atlanta... little 
 bit spicy! 

 Maybe some of us in this neck of the woods can put together some sort 
 of Sou'Easter event that's similar? 

 On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 1:18:04 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I'm giving attendance some serious consideration and if I come up, 
> I'll do the ATB route. 
>
> Scott — I think the road route for the 2023 Fling is considered the 
> bailout option. 
>
> More on the routes here from the 2022 edition, which follows the same 
> routes: 
> https://ronsbikesblog.com/2022/04/03/2022-nutmeg-country-spring-fling/
>
> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 12:00:30 PM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm also considering the ATB route, not sure if I'm up for a full 50 
>> miles, wondering if there are any bailouts?
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 10:46:25 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome! Based on J's post and the fact that you're going for the 
>>> ATB route, I think I'm going to switch and do that with my Hunqa (I 
>>> will 
>>> need to reinstall my rear rack so I can bring a saddlebag on it)
>>>
>>> Glad to hear that gorgeous black Sam is still bringing you joy - I 
>>> love that color scheme and you can't beat a Sam...
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 8:37:01 AM UTC-6 charlie...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Max,

 I'm planning on making the trip down from Portsmouth, NH and will 
 attempt the ATB route. 

 Not sure if you remember, but I'm the guy who bought your Sam 
 Hillborne back in February 2020. Still got it and it's still awesome!


 Charlie 

 On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 10:55:41 AM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> Who's going to the 2023 Nutmeg Country Spring Fling in May?
>
> I've never done it but this might be the year! It seems like I 
> might actually be able to make the drive up from Boston.
>
> Debating which route to choose: ATB route with the fenderless 
> Hunqa on 2.1" tubeless Thunderburts or Rando route with the newly 
> appointed 
> Bombadil on 2" Schwalbe Marathons and fenders?
>
> Details here: 
> https://ronsbikesblog.com/2023/04/11/2023-nutmeg-country-spring-fling-info-and-reg/
>
> Let me know if you're planning to go, I'd love to meet some folks 
> from the group in person.
>
> Max 
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[James M]

Those Breezer seat sandwiches are so hard to find.  I did, however, find a 
3D printing plan for one that someone put on Thingiverse.  I had Shapeways 
print it in glass-filled nylon, and it's been working pretty well with the 
B-72 on my Hunq.

On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 9:08:12 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> After reading that, I may have to put my Brooks B-72 with the Breezer Seat 
> Sandwich on the Bombadil. Just sitting on the shelf now, used to be on my 
> fatbike. Mine is a later version (bought new less than 10 years ago) with a 
> black frame. Makes me want to get the frame plated.
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>
>>
>> Enjoy, Johns article is up: 
>> https://theradavist.com/rivendell-bombadil-review/
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:17:24 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Wow! I'm super impressed. And I bet they are all in the same great 
>>> condition as your Bombadil. Thanks for sharing.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 8:04:43 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>>
 8 - behind the Bombadil - Betty Foy, Hubbuhubbuh, Frank Jones Sr, 
 Mystery Bike, Gus Boots Willsen, hanging on the wall Rosco Bubbe V1, 
 Rivendell Custom. There are others not in the picture (Clementine, Rosco 
 Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte, Roscoe Baby, Keven's Custom Mixte). The 
 Hubbuhubbuh has been sold since the picture was taken.

 Also in the picture - 2 1973 Schwinn Paramount P-15s, 2 Flying Pigeons, 
 2 Gitane Tour de Frances, Pashley Guv'nor, Crust Scapegoat,  Kent Cavalier 
 (recumbent 3 wheeler).

 Laing


 On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 1:19:46 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
 Wait a minute there Laing! How many Riv's are in that picture???

 Drill press, one of my favorite tools :)

 JohnS



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[RBW] Re: English subtitles for Blue Lug's video

[James M]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!  These Blue Lug videos are so good, I 
actually watched a bunch of this one, not understanding a bit of Japanese :)

On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 10:22:16 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Masa, you are a gem! I cannot WAIT to sit down and watch the videos and 
> read your subtitles. Commuting by Platypus, being a wonderful father and 
> making your Riv friends subtitled videos…you are a saint! ♥️ I will ask my 
> son how to say thank you in Japanese when he gets home from school. For 
> now, thanks in English!
> Leah
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 7:26:58 AM UTC-5 Masa wrote:
>
>> Hello all!
>>
>> This is my first post of 2023, I hope you are having good rides!
>>
>> Last month I happened to have an opportunity to make subtitles for Blue 
>> Lug’s YouTube channel and now the “Rivendell Chart” video is English 
>> subtitled!
>>
>> Let me tell you how it happened. First of all, When I finished watching 
>> the video I felt that “oh this video should be shared with English speaking 
>> Rivendell fans(means this "RBW Owners Bunch) too” so I started translating 
>> the video briefly.
>>
>> Then I found someone commented that “Subtitles please!” and Blue Lug 
>> replied “we’d love to but at the moment we are too busy so we need a help”. 
>> I thought that “why don’t I do that?”
>>
>> It took me a week to complete subtitling between my work, playing with my 
>> baby, feeding my baby, putting my baby to sleep, sleeping with my baby, 
>> chatting with my wife and commuting by my Platypus.
>>
>> It was a really fun work to do related to not only the things I’m 
>> passionate about which are languages and bicycles but also favourite people 
>> who are Rivendell and Blue Lug!
>>
>> I would be very happy that if I could be a help for Rivendell and Blue 
>> Lug. Ultimately I hope people who watch the subtitled video will find how 
>> Rivendell bicycles are amazing even better than before, that would be 
>> amazing.
>>
>> Link to the video↓
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx83uMhIgKA
>>
>> Masa
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[James M]

Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a 
wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail 
riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to 
lean into the bars a bit more off road.)

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.  I 
> wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on a 
> daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a 
> 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, they 
> even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them 
> if you don't want bar end shifters.  
>
> Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going to 
> depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's 
> physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like 
> any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the 
> exact same geometry.
>
> The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy with 
> broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal grip 
> posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or so 
> has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the 
> tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a 
> longer tem - which are hard to find.
>
> Let us know what you think.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>
>> Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able to 
>> track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real thought 
>> and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to hear others 
>> thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to switch 
>> out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you set them 
>> up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?
>>
>> Thanks all!
>>
>> Oh, and for reference, here they are: 
>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar
>>
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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

[James M]

The colors on that Ram are dreamy!

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 12:42:52 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
>  
> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
> Thanks, everyone.

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[RBW] Re: Suntour and sardine stickers (and more hats)

[James M]

I ordered a couple of those sardines - very cool. Where's the picture of 
the bike on the Big Cartel page from? A Riv staff bike?

On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 12:34:57 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Sickkk
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2022 at 3:06:33 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I have some new Suntour stickers and another batch of hats, if that's 
>> your thing! And I have some more sardine stickers (as seen on some bikes at 
>> Rivendell HQ)
>>
>> I've migrated over to Big Cartel as fielding orders through individual 
>> emails was a bit tricky to manage :) 
>>
>> https://genericindustries.bigcartel.com/
>>
>> Thanks for looking
>>
>> [image: suntour stickers 01.jpg]
>>
>> [image: sardines 01.jpg]
>>
>> [image: suntourhat 01.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Fall 2022 edition

[James M]

There's a 52cm Clem H over on the Crust Trader 
- https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/149752

On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 5:24:59 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Really nice build Wolbis Slugstone? in Sausalito
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/sausalito-rivendell-wolbis-susie-56/7570053337.html
>
> Heron in NC
> I’m not sure about their sizing since 54 is supposed to be 700c? But seems 
> like a good deal.
>
>
> https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/bik/d/winston-salem-heron-touring-bicycle-54/7569279283.html
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 6:14 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> I suppose there's someone out there who thinks an NOS Bleriot frameset is 
>> worth that kind of money. And bless their heart! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 5:24:16 PM UTC-8 J wrote:
>>
>>> From the ad
>>>
>>> New in box Rivendell Bleriot framesets in 55, 57 & 59cm sizes. 
>>> Ex QBP (Surly/Salsa/All-City) distributor with hard-to-find NOS stock to 
>>> sell. We bought these when they were available via QBP in MN and have been 
>>> sitting in dry storage for too long!
>>> Rivendell's first Taiwan-made frames IIRC and the same quality as their 
>>> current offerings.
>>> 59cm currently being held pending payment.
>>> Tange headset professionally fitted to the 59cm model for display. I'm 
>>> happy to leave as fitted or remove it if preferred. 
>>> These are located in Christchurch, NZ and I'm happy to ship worldwide at 
>>> buyers cost. Approx. international tracked delivery costs in NZ$
>>> Freight to :
>>> USA $707 NZD (approx. $467 USD),
>>> Canada $661 NZD (approx. $590 CAD)
>>> Japan $570 NZD (approx. ¥50,000)
>>> Most of Eastern Asia $570 NZD
>>> UK $661 NZD (approx. £350)
>>> Europe $661 NZD (approx. 410 EU)
>>> You're also welcome to get quotes and arrange you own delivery, 
>>> typically based on 0.1 m3 volume and 5kg shipping weight.
>>> Shipping is from Christchurch 8061, New Zealand
>>> Or maybe you know someone visiting NZ or in the US Antarctic Program (12 
>>> miles from where these are located) with some spare luggage capacity.
>>> Inquiries are welcome and I'm happy to schedule a WhatsApp or Signal 
>>> video link to verify authenticity. Also Luke Breen, owner of Perennial 
>>> Cycle in Minneapolis will vouch for me. 
>>> I'm open to offers that approximate the price of current equivalent 
>>> Rivendell framesets, i.e. $1750 USD ($2650 NZD)
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 4:21:59 PM UTC-5 Chris in NZ wrote:
>>>
 Pitching in on the Bleriots as a Kiwi:

 I can't see the FB listing, but I expect these to be the same frames 
 I've seen previously listed on another online trading platform here in NZ 
 at $1400NZD. If they're now listed at $1800, I'm inclined to believe this 
 is still in NZD, around $1000USD. 
 For shipping allow $500 these days.

 I would have bought the 55cm frame last year had I not been in the 
 final stages of ordering a Platypus frame and parts from Riv.. 

 On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 8:34:12 AM UTC+13 Joel S wrote:

> Thanks Tom.  He has adjusted for inflation and shipping will be a 
> killer.  The Bleriot is a great bike, I had one for years and I know 
> people 
> still want them, heck, I did not stop searching till I found a Saluki 
> ashen 
> sold my 55cm Bleriot.  If someone could get it for $1800 or so 
> shipped then good.  I bet shipping will be about $300 or more.  
>
> Sent from Proton Mail for iOS
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 1:46 PM, Tom Wyland  wrote:
>
> $1750 plus shipping from New Zealand.
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 1:32 PM 'JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Not on Face Book, what is the asking price? 
>>
>> Sent from Proton Mail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 1:21 PM, Jared Wilson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> NOS Bleriot framesets in 55, 57, and 59 on the Facebook group 
>> "Rivendellicious"
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/19202914712
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:53:07 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gus Boots Wilsen
>>> 57cm
>>> $2,000 
>>> Knoxville, TN
>>>
>>>
>>> https://knoxville.craigslist.org/bik/d/greenville-2022-rivendell-gus-boots/7557073606.html
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
 [image: s-l1600.jpg]

 Heron F/F/HS
 59cm
 Glencoe, Missouri

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/225290552848

 [image: s-l1600-1.jpg]

 Emmet's Atlantis
 62cm
 $4,100
 Johnstown, Penna. 


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Re: [RBW] Short trip suggestions?

[James M]

I'm also totally open to going somewhere and doing day rides from a hotel 
or hostel.  I looked at an old thread someone had about visiting Riv HQ, 
Mt. Tam, Mt. Diablo, etc... which could be cool.

On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 4:25:35 PM UTC-5 James M wrote:

> Thanks, Robert!
>
> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:
>
>> The White Rim Road near Moab UT is a nice 3 day ride. Need to reserve 
>> sites in advance and bring water but it worth it. Some do it in a day but 3 
>> days is how we did it.
>>
>> Robert Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2022, at 11:28 AM, James M  wrote:
>>
>> I'm laid up for 6 more weeks with a broken foot (technically a fractured 
>> fifth metatarsal), which has kept me from doing most of the things I enjoy 
>> and has just generally not been super fun.  So I'm trying to look forward 
>> to the spring and thinking about planning a bicycle trip somewhere new.  
>> I'm in northern NJ, but I'm up for driving, flying, whatever.  I would be 
>> thinking an extra-long weekend, maybe 4 days.  My favorite rides are taking 
>> my Hunqapillar out on rolling dirt roads, easy singletrack or doubletrack, 
>> but I'm also not pavement-averse.  
>>
>>
>> If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them, and start 
>> planning/dreaming for sunnier days!
>>
>> James
>>
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Re: [RBW] Short trip suggestions?

[James M]

Thanks, Robert!

On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-5 Robert Tilley wrote:

> The White Rim Road near Moab UT is a nice 3 day ride. Need to reserve 
> sites in advance and bring water but it worth it. Some do it in a day but 3 
> days is how we did it.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 19, 2022, at 11:28 AM, James M  wrote:
>
> I'm laid up for 6 more weeks with a broken foot (technically a fractured 
> fifth metatarsal), which has kept me from doing most of the things I enjoy 
> and has just generally not been super fun.  So I'm trying to look forward 
> to the spring and thinking about planning a bicycle trip somewhere new.  
> I'm in northern NJ, but I'm up for driving, flying, whatever.  I would be 
> thinking an extra-long weekend, maybe 4 days.  My favorite rides are taking 
> my Hunqapillar out on rolling dirt roads, easy singletrack or doubletrack, 
> but I'm also not pavement-averse.  
>
>
> If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them, and start 
> planning/dreaming for sunnier days!
>
> James
>
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[RBW] Re: Short trip suggestions?

[James M]

Oh yes, thanks for the reminder!  I'll check those out!


On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 4:02:36 PM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:

> Hey James,
> Have you seen Bikepacking.com's map of routes 
> ? The two in VT seem to be 
> right up your alley, geared toward extra-long weekends with the terrain 
> you're looking for:
> Roundabout Brattleboro 
> 
> Green Mountain Gravel Growler 
> 
>
> There's a route in MD that could also be an option but it's more 
> singletrack (50%) than those in VT.
>
> -Dave
>
>
> On Monday, December 19, 2022 at 2:28:49 PM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm laid up for 6 more weeks with a broken foot (technically a fractured 
>> fifth metatarsal), which has kept me from doing most of the things I enjoy 
>> and has just generally not been super fun.  So I'm trying to look forward 
>> to the spring and thinking about planning a bicycle trip somewhere new.  
>> I'm in northern NJ, but I'm up for driving, flying, whatever.  I would be 
>> thinking an extra-long weekend, maybe 4 days.  My favorite rides are taking 
>> my Hunqapillar out on rolling dirt roads, easy singletrack or doubletrack, 
>> but I'm also not pavement-averse.  
>>
>> If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them, and start 
>> planning/dreaming for sunnier days!
>>
>> James
>>
>

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[RBW] Short trip suggestions?

[James M]

I'm laid up for 6 more weeks with a broken foot (technically a fractured 
fifth metatarsal), which has kept me from doing most of the things I enjoy 
and has just generally not been super fun.  So I'm trying to look forward 
to the spring and thinking about planning a bicycle trip somewhere new.  
I'm in northern NJ, but I'm up for driving, flying, whatever.  I would be 
thinking an extra-long weekend, maybe 4 days.  My favorite rides are taking 
my Hunqapillar out on rolling dirt roads, easy singletrack or doubletrack, 
but I'm also not pavement-averse.  

If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear them, and start 
planning/dreaming for sunnier days!

James

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[RBW] Re: For sale: Rivendell caps, Riv shirt, bandanas, wool sweaters

[James M]

Eric - sending you a PM

On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 2:42:36 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello people — I have some stuff that I'm just not wearing or using, 
> including classic Riv stuffs. Prices do not include shipping. PayPal 
> Friends & Family or Venmo work best for me. Please hit me for a shipping 
> quote. Thanks! 
>
>
> *[image: IMG_4242.JPG]*
> *Rivendell cycling cap — $10/OBO *
> Pretty beat. Classic Rivendell cap made by Pace in the US. The elastic was 
> recently replaced by Randi Jo. 
>
> [image: IMG_4251.JPG]
>
> *Rivendell by Randi Jo wool cap — $25 *
> Wool cap by Randi Jo Fabrications. Some wear and fading, some 
> discoloration to interior band. Sized large in Randi Jo sizing, size medium 
> in Riv sizing. 
>
>
>
> *[image: IMG_4216.JPG]Rivendell Peace Wheel tee — $15 *
> Size medium in ash grey. It's 19" from pit to pit and 27" overall. Not a 
> pocket tee, front has the Riv round RBW + stars logo in black on left side 
> of chest. 
>
> [image: IMG_4252.JPG]
>
> *Made in US Bandanas lot, nine total — $15 *
> These are all Hav-A-Hank bandanas from Rivendell. Two brown, two 
> terracotta/brick red, two olive, two gold, one plum. One of the gold ones 
> has some grease smears but they're all washed and ready for you. 
>
> [image: IMG_4217 2.JPG]
>
> *Patagonia tweed wool henley sweater — $10*
> Labeled a size medium, made in Hong Kong. It's a heavy tweed sweater with 
> a high collar and three buttons. It's dark grey with flecks of green, blue 
> and brown. It has several dime-sized holes on the front, two in the belly 
> area, one at the right shoulder. From pit to pit it's 22" and overall from 
> top of shoulder to bottom hem is 27". 
>
> [image: IMG_4228.JPG]
> [image: IMG_4170.JPG]
>
> *Cox Moore English wool sweater — $20*
> Beautiful burnt orange ribbed knit sweater, dark orange with flecks of 
> brown, yellow and orange. Made in England from Shetland wool. No issues, 
> cute label. Measures 22” from pit to pit. Overall from top of collar to 
> bottom hem is 25”.
>

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[James M]

What are the differences between Hunqapillar generations?  I have a July 
2010 Waterford 62cm.  Right now it's got 2.1" Schwalbe Thunder Burts.  I 
think getting 2.2" tires on the back would be dicey.  Did the green 
generation of the frame have bigger clearance?  Longer wheelbase?

James

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 7:26:45 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> One more note that I didn't think of until I hit submit - the batch 
> differences that exist on Bombadils (and maybe Hunqapillars too) are more 
> significant than the difference between a Bombadil and a Hunq if you remove 
> the location of manufacture from the equation. 
>
> On Wednesday, 14 December 2022 at 16:24:22 UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Just catching this now, hey thanks for the shoutout Eric! And it means a 
>> lot that you said that about the forest photo! That was a special day, 
>> first ride on the rebuild after paint.
>>
>> I don't have nearly the historical knowledge that many here do, and a lot 
>> has already been said. But here are my summarized thoughts between the two 
>> anyway, beyond the obvious difference of location of manufacture. The 
>> Hunqapillar seems to me like a "v2" Bombadil - they increased tire 
>> clearance over the Bombadil from 2.1 to 2.4" on most sizes, they made 
>> little geometry tweaks but just a smidge here and there, and notably they 
>> made the frame more cost-effective by not only changing suppliers but by 
>> simplifying the design a bit. 
>>
>> To me they are still both "ATB" Rivendells, made to tackle trails loaded 
>> or not, and also be comfortable to ride on pavement as long as you're not 
>> in too much of a rush. When it comes to which is more coveted, it really 
>> comes down to whether the little superfluous (but beautiful) details on the 
>> Bombadil are important to you, and/or which paint job and geometry 
>> specifics suit you better. I think of them like the Appaloosa and Atlantis 
>> - basically two flavors of the same bike.   
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, 11 December 2022 at 07:16:08 UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> It seems the Bombadil and Hunqapillar frames are beloved. They're stout, 
>>> beautiful, and sometimes have intricate additional tubes and lugs. While 
>>> I've done a lot of reading about Rivendell I was a bit unclear on the 
>>> origins and intended uses of these frames. 
>>>
>>> I wanted to start a thread where we could share and dump info about 
>>> these bikes along with pictures of builds. 
>>>
>>> Joe and Jim were helpful in laying out a bit of background in another 
>>> thread 
>>> ,
>>>  there's 
>>> some great info there. 
>>>
>>> The original Hunqapillar catalog is up here: 
>>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Hunqapillar.pdf
>>>
>>> The first mention I can find of the Bombadil is in RR 41, sometime in 
>>> 2009. Excerpted pages attached. As a few members might recall I am very 
>>> into raw frames with brass spilling out of the lugs! I know that many 
>>> Bombadil owners have had their frames repainted like Jason Fuller, whose 
>>> absolute stunner shows up here from time to time. By the way, the picture 
>>> below is one of my very favorite Rivendell images. 
>>>
>>> [image: Jason Bombadil green.jpg]
>>>
>>> There's also the butter-banana Bombadil that recently sold on eBay. I 
>>> believe that one was purchased by John Watson of the Radavist (and he's got 
>>> a Hunq) so we might see some nice pics of that bike sometime soon. 
>>>
>>> [image: s-l1600-2.jpg]
>>>
>>> And speaking of, here's John's Hunqapillar, more images and write-up 
>>> here .
>>>
>>> [image: Johns-Rivendell-Hunqapillar-29er-Klunker-76.jpg] 
>>>
>>> Are both of these frame names borrowing from Tolkien? I understand RBW 
>>> had to stop using Tolkien names. 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[James M]

Whoa - the adjusters on those Breezer brake levers!

(Super interesting thread overall!)

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:53:02 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:

> Echoing Shoji's message, I love the diagonal tubes on the Hunqs (and 
> Bombadils) that had them. 
>
> Thanks for mentioning Joe Breeze. Grant has spoken often of Breeze and the 
> original Breezer 1. I can't imagine it was not a design inspiration for the 
> Hunqapillar. 
>
> The Breezer 1 is in the Smithsonian Museum of American History. I attached 
> a photo and the build list of the original, which is a fantastically 
> interesting historical document. Check out the reinforced fork on that 
> thing!! The build list states that the weight as configured was 38 pounds. 
> It's from 1977, yet it still seems so familiar and current given how folks 
> outfit their Rivs.  
>
> You can find more info at the Smithsonian 
> .
>
> Jim
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:07:39 AM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
>> For me, the Hunqapillar diagatube was a visual draw-- I liked it better 
>> than the parallel-to-top-tube bar of the Bombadil.
>>
>> The diagatube reminds me of the original Joe Breeze mountain bike frame: 
>>
>> https://mmbhof.org/portfolio/first-fat-tire-bike-with-a-new-frame-and-all-new-parts/
>>
>> Additional tubes have been around for a long time in bicycle history, 
>> some for functional reasons and others for style. (E.g., google cargo bikes)
>>
>> shoji
>> arlington ma
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:49:05 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>
>>> I've also thought the diagonal tube to look odd except on the very 
>>> largest of frames for the very largest of riders.  They seem reminiscent of 
>>> the original Santana Sovereign tandems, where they seemed to make some 
>>> sense.  I remember Santana claiming the "marathon" style to be the stiffest 
>>> configuration for a tandem per all sorts of tests they performed.  Later, 
>>> it seems everyone, including Santana, shifted to a diagonal tube running to 
>>> the rear bottom bracket and, nowadays, most tandems have dispensed with the 
>>> diagonal tube.  It all leaves me wondering...
>>>
>>> In a quick search for some history on the "marathon" style I found this 
>>> on the Rodriguez site: "so this design kind of went the way of the Ford 
>>> Edsel in our shop."  I couldn't quickly find the origins of the style but 
>>> it seems the tandem industry abandoned the design long before Rivendell 
>>> applied it to singles.  It has always been a bit of a curiosity to me as, 
>>> even for a tandem, it is considered over-built these days.
>>>
>>> [image: loaded santana.jpg]
>>> 1980 Santana Sovereign.  I remember crossing paths with a couple 
>>> honeymooning on their Rodriguez tandem.  I can't remember if it was a 
>>> marathon.  I am now noticing that the additional Rivendell stays extend to 
>>> the rear dropouts rather than to the seat stays' mid section.
>>>
>>> Bill S
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 3:46:22 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>>
 The Bombadil(60 cm w/700c wheels, parallel TT) is the only frame I 
 really much paid attention to and bought, albeit from a list member in 
 2011. I'm pretty sure they were all customer choice paint jobs, save and 
 specials, returns, cancels and such.

 I recall also that the Bomba tubes were heat treated, not sure about 
 the Hunq but I'd be surprised if they were. Only GP knows what tubes cost 
 what. Plus the fancy lugs. I have no idea about the Hunqa frames lugs but 
 the Bombas sure are fancy, if that's you're thing. I don't ride a Riv for 
 the rep/status or the paint jobs or even the looks, I have two because 
 they 
 fit me well and they're steel. I'm outside the bounds of most every stock 
 Riv bike and yet those two worked(Susie is the other). That's about it. 
 I'm 
 all for Practicability. 

 While the Hunqapillar was touted as a Bomba replacement, it was only 
 that in category as the frame itself was totally different in dimensions 
 and sizes, not to mention the diagonal tube which still looks odd to me. 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

[James M]

Pretty cool - but another $250 for the shift lever.  Still great to see 
components like this being made!

On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:57:26 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:

> The Nivex is on the market now, and I really like the look of it. Even at 
> $729.00 it feels like money well spent if you want something a little 
> different and appreciate all that goes into making something like this. 
> KUDOs to Jan for sticking with it. 
> Nivex Rear 
> 
> [image: Oregon-Outback-RH_Nivex-600x387.jpeg]
>
> For a custom Rivendell, it might make for a very sweet build. If my ship 
> comes in I'd be tempted to spring for one, but I'll hold out until I see 
> the new Riv rear derailer. 
>
> Marty
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[RBW] Re: FS: lot nitto rack struts, p clamps

[James M]

No need for so many here, but love this! And that Wald ashtray 😍

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 11:16:05 PM UTC-5 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello, I have a lot of nitto rack struts with p clamps I'd like to sell. 
> Some of the clamps are missing rubber, some have hardware. What you see is 
> what you get. Asking $100.00 shipped in the CONUS for the lot, or hit me 
> with an offer if pricing is off. Thanks for looking!
> Lengths as follows; ~115mm 145mm 183mm 250mm 350mm
>
> [image: 52552134714_37a3c21aec_k.jpg]
>
> [image: 52551843281_a7ab7f207e_k.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS- Large Hubbuhhubbuh tandem, $1800.

[James M]

Ayayayay.  Going to talk to the family about this.  If nothing else, your 
post prompted me to finally put up my own FS post for the Long Haul Trucker 
that's been collecting dust in the basement.  

Got an estimate on stoker size range?  My youngest is 4' 10", my wife is 5' 
10".

James

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:54:46 AM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
NY wrote:

> Hey folks, 
> Economics and non-use force sale of a would be beloved bicycle.
> I rode it solo a bit, less than 30 miles, and did a couple very short 
> jaunts with a kiddo.
> It’s fairly swank, with a beautiful and expensive Velocity wheel set with 
> a SON dyno hub.
> I had big plans, but they relied too heavily upon the hope that others in 
> the family would fall in love with the thing. 
> I put clear helicopter tape on the top tube out back to facilitate feet 
> upon it while legs were growing, and routed the brake cable away from that 
> same section of top tube. Works like a charm. 
> Never got as far as hooking up a light or connecting the front shifter, 
> but I’ll include both a light and a front shifter in the sale. 
> Hoping for a local sale, can deliver in and around New York and the 
> surrounding areas, and I’m happy to $hip it.
> Photos- https://photos.app.goo.gl/tex6dqhe3pXZN83a7
> And I’ll be keeping my captain saddle
>
> Thanks much
> -Kai
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The do-it-all Rivendell of choice

[James M]

Randy - I love this photo of your Appaloosa.  I gotta up my bike 
photography skills!

James

On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 8:48:49 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com 
wrote:

> My riding is road-centric (paved, gravel, dirt farm roads) so my  2TT 62cm 
> Appaloosa does it all very well. It is comfortable, capable and fun to 
> ride. The only thing I would like is more tire clearance to be able to ride 
> trails and rough national forest roads, so maybe the 62cm Atlantis MIT, 
> although I would love to give a Hunqapillar a try!
> Randy in Wisconsin[image: Appaloosa 101022WEB.jpg]
>
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 7:41:15 AM UTC-6 J J wrote:
>
>>
>> I, too, would choose my Hunqapillar. The setup would be generally what I 
>> am currently running on my green Waterford-built 58:
>>
>>- Upright, wide, swept-back bars with mirror and bell
>>- Low gearing (triple with 24 tooth smallest in front, 9-speed with 
>>at least 36 tooth biggest in back)
>>- Rapid Rise RD
>>- Friction thumb shifting
>>- Tires no smaller than 50mm
>>- Cantilever brakes
>>- B67 saddle
>>- Robust wheels with at least 36 spokes; dynamo hub
>>- Good lights
>>- Flat pedals
>>- Rear rack
>>
>> I could get particular about specific components; they would just have to 
>> fit these general parameters. The main thing is the Hunq itself. The  more 
>> examples of other bikes I’ve ridden — including other Rivs —  the more 
>> attached I get to the Hunq as a do-it-all. The other bikes seem to have too 
>> much or too little of something relative to the Hunq. They might be fun, 
>> interesting, comfortable, capable, whatever, but they feel compromised or 
>> annoying in some way, big or small. The Hunq compromises nothing to me and 
>> riding it puts me in a happy place.
>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 7:41:29 AM UTC-5 
>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I nominate my 650b Hunqapillar.  It's the most comfortable bike I've 
>>> ridden, and it's geometry doesn't seem to be intended for drops, flat, or 
>>> upright handlebars--it feels different but good with each.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 6:35:43 AM UTC-6 Chris L wrote:
>>>
 [image: 20210614_081755.jpg]

 On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 1:20:20 AM UTC-6 Luke Hendrickson 
 wrote:

> This is a fun one! I guess that I’ll kinda cop out and say that what I 
> have now is what I’d run as a do-it-all. I really like the Gus but I see 
> it 
> as a 75% unpaved sorta bike which is why I’m pretty happy with my 
> Atlantis. 
> I live and ride in San Francisco and so see a lot of elevation changes 
> both 
> while commuting and while riding aimlessly. Thus my current setup 
> (44-32-22 
> up front, 12-32 in the rear) allows me to take on the steepest San 
> Francisco hill and gnarliest unpaved route in Marin.
>
> The addition of the basket has made it a true quiver killer in my eyes 
> and makes me so happy that I no longer view baskets with disdain. I was 
> sorely missing out. I’ve been a long time admirer (I saw my first Riv in 
> 2008) but I’m a new owner (August of this year). I’m sure my answer will 
> change over time, but, for now, the Atlantis is all that I need. 
>
> Also also: I just did the attached route and featured a lot of rough 
> terrain with the final 40 miles being exclusively paved. The Atlantis was 
> supremely comfortable on all of it. 
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 8:15:13 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I have one Riv that already does all this, but I'm cheating the 
>> premise of the thread cuz it's a custom I had built for the purpose. So 
>> I'll shift my answer to: What if I didn't have a car and part of the 
>> ride 
>> to go shopping included gnarly singletrack! 
>>
>> Ok the answer is Gus Boots-Willsen. I'd move most of my parts over:
>> SRAM 1x11 drivetrain
>> Sugino 152mm 36t cranks (maybe a smaller front ring, I don't care 
>> much about spinning out)
>> Deity pedals 
>> WI rear hub
>> Velocity Atlas rims
>> Bosco bars
>> Face Plater stem
>> Nitto post
>> Brooks B17
>> Paul Motolites and levers
>> Nitto Big Rack
>>
>> I'd swap the front hub for a SON Dyno, a move I wish I'd done when I 
>> had Rick build my wheels. 
>> Would probably add front low-rider racks. 
>>
>> This would give me all the stuff I love about Rivs (except 
>> lugs..don't tell anybody but I love the fillet welds on Gus, my custom 
>> has 
>> a couple, too) in a stouter frame that will handle big loads and gnarly 
>> terrain. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 1:35:25 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The threads on Platypus versus [name] and using versus "saving" your 
>>> Rivendell raises an interesting if (fortunately!) academic question: if 
>>> you 

Re: [RBW] Re: Susie / Gus questions

[James M]

I've thought about getting my 27.0 Hunq reamed to 27.2 for exactly this 
reason.  Maybe I should just do it already.

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 8:50:56 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Solution to putting 27.2 seat post into 26.8 seat tube:
>
> [image: Seat Tube Reamer s.jpg]
>
> Every 26.8 and 27.2 (and 27.0) ID seat tube that I have ever seen were all 
> the same 28.6 OD, so if you ride 27.2 droppers, reaming a 26.8 ID out to 
> 27.2 shouldn't bother you. You are only reducing the thickness by 0.008" on 
> the inside of the tube.
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 10:44:31 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Regarding my earlier comment - I know, and fully respect, that Grant 
>> plans to never make a disc brake bike. Which is fine - sure, it limits 
>> their function in certain scenarios, but I do really appreciate brands that 
>> are willing to do what they want rather than follow market trends. It's 
>> what makes Rene Herse, Jones, and others also worth cherishing even if you 
>> don't necessarily feel the same way.  And I absolutely think that rim 
>> brakes are just as good, if not better, than disc brakes for the majority 
>> of riding that people do. 
>>
>> I think Hillibikes should be v-brake. If I want discs, I know where else 
>> to look. It's great to have a V-brake option on the market! 
>>
>> It's more the seatpost size that really bugs me. I know it's a product of 
>> the available seat clamp lug. Hopefully they will go 27.2 in the future - 
>> then you can run a thudbuster, a dropper, or a regular seatpost. The brake 
>> thing is a stylistic choice I respect, but the seatpost size is just 
>> unfortunate.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, 19 October 2022 at 19:15:09 UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the information.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 11:22 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Kim, that’s from 2021 — One year ago

 On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:59:27 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I know the deadline has come and passed. It does not indicate as to 
> whether or not if this for the Clem Smith Jr. "H" or the "L" version. 
> However, for information reasons:
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/clem-lotto-tickets-on-sale-til-friday-the-15th?_pos=1&_sid=934df0537&_ss=r
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 8:02:12 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Absolutely. If I could pick one bike to do it all, I’d likely pick up 
>> a Clem L frame. It crosses my mind often actually because I’ve always 
>> looked for the “one” bike to do it all. 
>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 7:57:00 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> VERY interesting! 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I own a 2021 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L". I am just beginning to fully 
>>> appreciate this bicycle beyond it being very comfortable. 
>>>
>>> Awhile back, I asked Will Keating from Rivendell Bicycle Works a 
>>> question about the differences between the Suzie and the Clem.
>>>
>>> He said, "The Susie is longer, has lighter tubing, and is fillet 
>>> brazed (the Clems are tig welded) which makes them more expensive. The 
>>> Susie also fits a slightly bigger tire - Clems max out at around 2.4; 
>>> Susie 
>>> fit a 2.6. Other than that - they are similar!"
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 7:11:39 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello! I picked up a Susie in the last run and have been using it 
 as my mountain bike. That said, I have not ridden a suspension bike in 
 quite a while. I did see the email that a second run was going to 
 happen. 
 It was supposed to be spring this year I think but since the ones I 
 got 
 didn’t show up till then I’m sure it will be next year at this point, 
 no 
 mention of them for a while. 

 I haven’t ridden a Clem L so I can’t say, I do have a Clem H 
 though. I love my Clem! The H has a little bit steeper head tube, the 
 new 
 Clem L seems to be a slightly closer spec to a Gus or Susie as far as 
 head 
 tube angle and fork rake. 

 My Susie feels like riding on a cloud compared to the Clem and I 
 don’t think it is just the tire size but I’m sure it plays a good part 
 of 
 it. The extra height of the BB on the Susie is very welcome in the 
 chunky 
 stuff as well. The tubes on the Susie feel full of like and spring 
 forward 
 when I get on it. I ride the Clem daily towing my daughter around and 
 it is 

[RBW] Re: FS: Pedals

[James M]

Hi, Laing.  I sent a PM on the platform pedals.

James

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:43:17 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Platform pedals and parts picture. Note that the Urban pedals have silky 
> smooth sealed bearings, and the GR-10 are the normal ball and cone MKS 
> bearings that seem to get smoother over time, or if you re-grease and 
> re-adjust them.
>
> [image: Platforms.jpg]
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 8:41:52 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> Cleaning out more unused parts.
>> SPD clipless pedals: Shimano PD-M515 used; Forte Carve; very little use, 
>> in box with unused cleats. $35 OBO for all, shipped CONUS
>> MKS Platform Pedals. Urban Platform and GR-10; All City chromed metal and 
>> plastic twin strap toe clips, All City leather twinned straps. everything 
>> is used, but the GR-10s have seen very little use. $40 OBO for all, shipped 
>> CONUS.
>>
>> [image: Pedalss.jpg]
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv caps - Duluth Pack - BxB Goldback - Tumbleweed Prospector

[James M]

Dang - sweet deal on caps!  Count me in for next on the unlikely chance it 
falls through ;)

James

On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 8:28:23 PM UTC-4 jinxed wrote:

> Caps pending!! Thanks Paul
>
> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 6:27:56 PM UTC-6 jinxed wrote:
>
>> Lost part of my post...
>> I generally use paypal, and USPS for shipping as long as reasonable.
>>
>> Hit me up with any questions!
>> Brad
>>
>> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 5:45:55 PM UTC-6 jinxed wrote:
>>
>>> Doing a needed clear out. Had some Rivvy stuff:
>>>
>>> Rivendell Cycling cap lot  $40 - Tried on, not worn: 
>>> 3 Riv, 1 Randi Jo x TSBC, 1 Swrve, 1 Condor 
>>>
>>> Duluth Pack waxed canvas laptop bag - $150
>>> Purchased at $225 to replace my "lost" Filson...then found my Filson. 
>>> Been shuffled around in the closet but never used. Charcoal waxed canvas, 
>>> black leather closing straps, padded laptop sleeve
>>>
>>> BXB Goldback V1 Medium - $190
>>> Yellow/Tan/Rust - maybe used 1-2 times. Immaculate.
>>>
>>> Tumbleweed Prospector complete $3600
>>> Rohloff - SON - XT - Avid - WTB
>>> More info on my 650b group post if interested 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> LINK TO PICTURES 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: The World's Ride

[James M]

Interesting, thanks.  Cool to see several double-top-tube bicycles in there!

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 8:34:49 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

> Some lovely photos by Steve McCurry of very utilitarian bicycles around 
> the world. Of course, these really make our 'fancy' bikes look even that 
> more fancy...in a good way!
>
> Steve McCurry 'The World's Ride' 
> 
> [image: india-11443.jpeg]
> Cheers, John
>

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Re: [RBW] Doldrums

[James M]

Interesting on Wandrer.earth - I'll have to check that out.  I've been 
manually mapping new roads here in NJ post-ride in Google Maps for a few 
years, which is it's own kind of fun as I walk back through my recorded 
routes on RWGPS to see what new segments I picked up.  I love a good dead 
end that there's no reason to go down - *especially* the times when you 
discover a cut-through at the end to another block.  This is the stuff that 
makes me feel like a kid again, not a forty-something dad :)

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 12:37:53 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Regarding cul-de-sacs on Wandrer, you skipped over the interesting part 
> that is a lot more general for cyclists:
>
> Cyclists, as a general rule, avoid cul-de-sacs almost entirely.  Why?  
> Because by definition they don't go anywhere.  Maybe without even realizing 
> it a "normal cyclist" couldn't draw a picture of the triangular "No Outlet" 
> sign, but when riding they recognize it in their spinal cord and stay away 
> from the dead end therein.  Wandrer totally flips that.  When a wandrer 
> sees that triangle on their "regular route" it's like an Easter Egg.  
> That's a section you've passed dozens, even hundreds of times and never 
> bothered to explore.  I've found it super rewarding to go down those 
> unexplored dead ends.  I'm an amateur architecture buff, and some of the 
> most interesting houses have been down those dead ends.  Also, I've found a 
> number of interesting urban trails at the ends of cul-de-sacs which I 
> imagine only the locals know about.  That binary switch from "cyclist" to 
> "wandrer" is interesting on its own, IMO.
>
> In the East SF Bay, some of those tiny side streets and cul-de-sacs are 
> also among the most strenuous cycling one can find.  I've learned that all 
> the "main drags" through the East Bay Hills are practically flat in the 
> gradual ways they go up and down the hills.  The residential streets which 
> shoot off those main drags are far steeper.  For a short, very strenuous 
> workout that is still not repetitive, there is not much better than a Wandr 
> in the Oakland Hills.  Those rides kick my butt.  
>
> Regarding apartment complexes and other maze-like structures, those can be 
> super challenging to get all the bits.  I usually make a cue sheet when I 
> wandr, and that task can get tedious when it's a million little turns.  One 
> way I've approached those structures has been in the simple ways 
> mathematicians traverse mazes.  One way to cover a loopless maze is "right 
> hand on the wall".  If a maze has no loops, then RHOW will cover the maze.  
> It's pretty easy to recognize such a structure on the map and then a whole 
> housing development can be knocked out on the cue sheet with a single 
> "RHOW" entry.  
>
> These are some of the ways that Wandrer has opened up using my brain on my 
> cycling in ways that I hadn't bothered before.  For some people that may 
> "take the fun out of it", but for me it gave me new ways to derive more fun 
> in my cycling.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 4:19:24 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> With wandrer, even worse than cul-de-sacs for me are apartment complexes. 
>> Tedious architecture and lots of dead ends. 
>>
>> I had one ride where I spent about 1.5 hours riding (in the rain!) 
>> through several apartment complexes, trying to finally close out a section, 
>> only to find my phone had stopped recording a mile into the ride. Doh!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 8:59 PM Robert Tilley  wrote:
>>
>>> I recently signed up with Wandrer to force me to take some different 
>>> routes. I've worked from home for the last 4 years or so and have no free 
>>> time so all of my rides tend to be errands and also tend to be along the 
>>> same routes. 
>>>
>>> It's been fun so far but I have come to really hate the inventor of the 
>>> cul-de-sac. My area is full of them and it's a real pain to "bag" them all. 
>>> One short road section here has eight cul-de-sacs sprouting off of it. I've 
>>> gotten a lot of odd looks in the week that I've been trying to clear them 
>>> all. I keep thinking I'm gonna get beat up since I likely look like some 
>>> kind of weirdo riding into and out of all of these small neighborhoods. 
>>> I've started using my Brompton so I look more like a harmless creep than a 
>>> creepy creep. I'm waiting for someone to post about "some weird old guy 
>>> riding through our neighborhoods" on the Nextdoor app.
>>>
>>> I make double sure that my watch is recording my ride before I take off. 
>>> I can't even imagine going through some of those routes only to find I 
>>> didn't hit "record". My wailing would be heard for miles and would be the 
>>> source of much consternation I am certain.
>>>
>>> I have my area about clear so I'm now heading out into the unknown...
>>>
>>> Robert Tilley
>>> San Diego, CA
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 4:22 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
>

[RBW] WTB: Brooks B67

[James M]

Hi, all.  I'm looking for a decently-priced B67 or B68 for my Hunq.  Color 
doesn't matter that much.

I've been riding a B72, but the lack of real saddlebag loops is going to be 
a problem as I move to a bigger bag in the rear.  I started off with a B17 
on this bike, but the wider saddles definitely work better for my setup.  
(Maybe interesting to folks - I run the two-rail B72 with a copy of the 
hard to find Breezer adapter 3D-printed in glass filled nylon - it's worked 
pretty well!)

James

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Baggage For Sale

[James M]

Hi, Karl. Count me in for the #8 Baggins bag 

James

On Friday, September 9, 2022 at 2:20:48 PM UTC-4 Karl wrote:

> Needing to dramatically downsize my "stuff" so, first post is my Rivendell 
> Bags I have had collecting dust and Golden Retriever hair! If interested, 
> please note the number on the photo for the bag when replying. Let me know 
> if I am crazy high on pricing. More fun stuff to come (Quickbeam wheels, 
> Paul brakes, etc!) Thanks All!
>
> Photos Here 
>
> #1- Duluth Candy Bar Bag- Some spotting. Good shape- $50 shipped
>
> #2- Baggins Candy Bar Bag- Some beausage- $40 Shipped
>
> #3- Baggins Banana-ish Bag- Shorter “tail” than other banana I have. Also, 
> this has a zipper- $50 shipped
>
> #4- Baggins Little Joe (Pretty sure) Hole in bottom, but still has some 
> miles- $50 shipped
>
> #5- Sackville Musette Bag- $40 Shipped
>
> #6- Sackville Big Bag (Don’t remember the model)- $120 Shipped
>
> #7- Sackville Big Bag (Also.. Don’t remember the model)- $120 Shipped
>
> #8- Baggins Adam (?)- Good shape- $100 Shipped
>
> #9- Rivendell Vegan Rack Bag- $30 Shipped
>
> Karl in Nashville, TN
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Bagman quick-release brackets and adapters

[James M]

Hi, Jim - any of these still available?  I would take one.

James

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 6:30:28 PM UTC-5 Jim S. wrote:

> bump. $45 each, shipping included.
>
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 12:16:16 PM UTC-6 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> I have three of these for sale. $50 each, shipping included. 
>>
>> You get both the bracket, and new adapters and big thick zipties that 
>> attach the adapter to your saddle bag so that it fits the quick-release 
>> bracket. These work great, if you have a saddle bag that you want to easily 
>> switch among bikes, or if you have a saddle bag that you remove when you 
>> reach your destination.
>>
>> Here's a pretty good product description:
>>
>> https://www.perennialcycle.com/bagman-quick-release-clamp.html
>>
>> Please note: these are not Bagman Expeditions. That is, there is no metal 
>> support piece that your saddle bag rests on. I think these are most useful 
>> if you have a rear rack that your saddle bag can rest on.
>>
>> Here are photos:
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/oBtUWJnL2qvhdj5e7
>>
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[RBW] Re: Nice Hunqapiller on ebay

[James M]

Very nice - love the color scheme.  

On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 1:58:02 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> It's a hell of a nice bike! The price keeps falling. 
>
> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 11:56:00 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> It's been up for a hot minute! The price seems tolerable, I'm surprised 
>> nobody's swooped yet. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 8:22:06 AM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>>> No connection to seller, just noticed this listing yesterday, really 
>>> nice 62cm Hunq.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/304419352111?hash=item46e0ceae2f:g:9ewAAOSwqKhiQ8DX
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: A Hunq

[James M]

Beautiful bike, Dave. How did the Surly rack work with the Riv fork? I was 
thinking of picking one up for my Hunq.

On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 2:35:54 PM UTC-4 Dave Grossman wrote:

> Yup also my favorite bike of all time.  It rides great no matter what you 
> put it through and no bike looks like it with the diagatube.  Here is the 
> latest iteration:
>
> [image: IMG_20211109_170200.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: A Hunq

[James M]

Nice - love the OG poster!

On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:54:08 PM UTC-4 Jennings wrote:

> I've had my Hunqapillar since 2010-2011.  I still even have the postcard 
> and poster Riv was selling at the time.  [image: HUNQ.jpeg][image: 
> hunqa.jpg]
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:16:17 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> There's a ton of Hunqapillar activity around here... it's awesome. Here's 
>> mine, it has a serial # that starts with H & I have no idea when it was 
>> built or why it's salmon colored instead of gray/orange or green. It is 
>> clearly a custom color, however I'm not sure if it was ordered this color 
>> or it was done after it's original color. It's not a Joe Bell paint job... 
>> it looks nice from afar but the paint is not high quality. I've had it just 
>> about a year... May 2021. These are older photo's, I've put metal fenders 
>> on it since. I'll update a photo soon.
>> [image: Hunqapillar .jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_2146.jpg]
>>
>> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:42:27 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Well, since we're sharing Hunqs...
>>> Here's mine laying in the fallen Ginko leaves in Japan. Built in 
>>> Waterford early 2015 (Serial number begins with a 'K'. Hmm?). Since then 
>>> it's been around. I like to imagine it is the bike that Sir Richard Francis 
>>> Burton would have ridden from Medina to Mecca, from Zanzibar (with pack 
>>> raft) to the shores of Lake Tanganyika. And, I image it will be my ride 
>>> until I can ride no more. 
>>> [image: IMG_7580.jpeg]
>>> Cheers, John
>>> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 9:03:29 AM UTC+9 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>>>
 Just wanted to share the only bike I think will be in my stable for 
 ever. It's a 54cm Hunq. I'm pretty sure it's Taiwan made, since it doesn't 
 have Waterford etched into the drop out. I've been working on this bike 
 for 
 18 months to get it here, and I'm finally happy with where I've landed. 
 The 
 only immediate changes might be... changing the 'tross bars to Billie 
 bars. 
 It's also set up for quick swaps in case I want to use Bullmoose bars that 
 day. 

 Enjoy. Happy to answer questions. 

 [image: IMG_4909.jpeg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: A Hunq

[James M]

Johnny - can you tell me about your frame bag?  Custom, I assume?  I'm 
about to make one for my 62cm Hunq and am debating whether to do one zipper 
like yours appears to be or two horizontal zippers with a divider.  My main 
use will be for storing tent poles and fly rods. (Plus a frame bag just 
looks perfect in that top triangle!)

James

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 7:16:17 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:

> There's a ton of Hunqapillar activity around here... it's awesome. Here's 
> mine, it has a serial # that starts with H & I have no idea when it was 
> built or why it's salmon colored instead of gray/orange or green. It is 
> clearly a custom color, however I'm not sure if it was ordered this color 
> or it was done after it's original color. It's not a Joe Bell paint job... 
> it looks nice from afar but the paint is not high quality. I've had it just 
> about a year... May 2021. These are older photo's, I've put metal fenders 
> on it since. I'll update a photo soon.
> [image: Hunqapillar .jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_2146.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 11:42:27 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Well, since we're sharing Hunqs...
>> Here's mine laying in the fallen Ginko leaves in Japan. Built in 
>> Waterford early 2015 (Serial number begins with a 'K'. Hmm?). Since then 
>> it's been around. I like to imagine it is the bike that Sir Richard Francis 
>> Burton would have ridden from Medina to Mecca, from Zanzibar (with pack 
>> raft) to the shores of Lake Tanganyika. And, I image it will be my ride 
>> until I can ride no more. 
>> [image: IMG_7580.jpeg]
>> Cheers, John
>> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 9:03:29 AM UTC+9 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>>
>>> Just wanted to share the only bike I think will be in my stable for 
>>> ever. It's a 54cm Hunq. I'm pretty sure it's Taiwan made, since it doesn't 
>>> have Waterford etched into the drop out. I've been working on this bike for 
>>> 18 months to get it here, and I'm finally happy with where I've landed. The 
>>> only immediate changes might be... changing the 'tross bars to Billie bars. 
>>> It's also set up for quick swaps in case I want to use Bullmoose bars that 
>>> day. 
>>>
>>> Enjoy. Happy to answer questions. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4909.jpeg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[James M]

Just catch & released a couple of stocked rainbows.  I had another 15 miles 
to bike after hitting the Big Flatbrook, so definitely wasn't equipped to 
bring any home!  Such a great river though - my favorite in NJ.

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 6:23:44 PM UTC-4 Susan wrote:

> What did you catch?  Catch and release or take home to eat?
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 6:19 AM James M  wrote:
>
>> I took the Hunq out to Stokes State Forest for an afternoon of 
>> bikefishing and scouting for an overnight next month.  It was super nice - 
>> I'm really liking the hand positions of the Choco Moose bars and their 
>> resistance to spinning on rough trails.  I have some Fizik gel strips under 
>> the cloth tape.  Good times.
>>
>> [image: IMG_20220412_125620395_HDR.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_20220412_125659408_HDR.jpg][image: 
>> IMG_20220412_152602361_HDR.jpg]
>> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:31:55 AM UTC-4 James M wrote:
>>
>>> It really is special.  I just got fabric in the mail to start sewing up 
>>> a frame bag for that upper triangle!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 2:06:10 PM UTC-4 Jennings wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hunq is by far my favorite.  My keep forever bike.  
>>>>
>>>> [image: HUNQ.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:51:18 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Third time's the charm?
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-28 095048.png]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Decided to switch things up on my Hunq - the Ron's bar is cool, but 
>>>>>>> didn't have the additional forward hand position I needed.  Decided to 
>>>>>>> switch over to the Choco-moose (thanks, Kai!) and it's definitely a 
>>>>>>> better 
>>>>>>> fit for me.  A little more width on the back would be nice, probably 
>>>>>>> noticing it more coming from the Ron's, but the 2.5 hand positions I'm 
>>>>>>> getting from this are really good so far!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[James M]

The Choco Moose have been good to me so far, but I've been riding only 
lightly loaded.  For the overnight we're doing next month, my load will be 
pretty similar to what's in your photo.  Front lowrider rack with panniers 
+ basket + light load on top of the rear rack.  I'll report back with how 
it handles.

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:11:16 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:

> Hunq's are hard to find. It took me years to find mine and through the 
> kindness of someone on this group (thanks again Matt!) I did find one. 
> Picture attached. I have the Nitto Albatross bars, as many folks have 
> recommended. I find them to be comfortable, however I'd prefer bars that 
> are more out-swept and stiffer. On this bike-packing trip the handling is 
> downright weird with 20+ lbs on the front of the bike. Do you feel like the 
> Chocomoose bars are noodly?
>
> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 12:18:01 PM UTC-7 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> Those Chocomooses look right and proper. 👍 
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 9:19:10 AM UTC-4 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I took the Hunq out to Stokes State Forest for an afternoon of 
>>> bikefishing and scouting for an overnight next month.  It was super nice - 
>>> I'm really liking the hand positions of the Choco Moose bars and their 
>>> resistance to spinning on rough trails.  I have some Fizik gel strips under 
>>> the cloth tape.  Good times.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_20220412_125620395_HDR.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_20220412_125659408_HDR.jpg][image: 
>>> IMG_20220412_152602361_HDR.jpg]
>>> On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 10:31:55 AM UTC-4 James M wrote:
>>>
>>>> It really is special.  I just got fabric in the mail to start sewing up 
>>>> a frame bag for that upper triangle!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 2:06:10 PM UTC-4 Jennings wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hunq is by far my favorite.  My keep forever bike.  
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: HUNQ.jpeg]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:51:18 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Third time's the charm?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-28 095048.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Decided to switch things up on my Hunq - the Ron's bar is cool, but 
>>>>>>>> didn't have the additional forward hand position I needed.  Decided to 
>>>>>>>> switch over to the Choco-moose (thanks, Kai!) and it's definitely a 
>>>>>>>> better 
>>>>>>>> fit for me.  A little more width on the back would be nice, probably 
>>>>>>>> noticing it more coming from the Ron's, but the 2.5 hand positions I'm 
>>>>>>>> getting from this are really good so far!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[James M]

It really is special.  I just got fabric in the mail to start sewing up a 
frame bag for that upper triangle!

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 2:06:10 PM UTC-4 Jennings wrote:

> Hunq is by far my favorite.  My keep forever bike.  
>
> [image: HUNQ.jpeg]
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:51:18 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Third time's the charm?
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-28 095048.png]
>>
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:48:37 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:
>>>
>>>> Decided to switch things up on my Hunq - the Ron's bar is cool, but 
>>>> didn't have the additional forward hand position I needed.  Decided to 
>>>> switch over to the Choco-moose (thanks, Kai!) and it's definitely a better 
>>>> fit for me.  A little more width on the back would be nice, probably 
>>>> noticing it more coming from the Ron's, but the 2.5 hand positions I'm 
>>>> getting from this are really good so far!
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] FS: VO Cigne stem

[James M]

Velo Orange Grand Cru Cigne stem, "noir" black, 1-1/8" threadless, 90mm 
length x 145mm rise x 31.8 clamp.  $60 shipped in the USA.  Includes the 
original drawstring bag it came in and all bolts.  Hardly used - one small 
scratch on the rider side of the stem (third photo).

See photos here - https://photos.app.goo.gl/H78Nd1hr7Axx6WQs8

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[James M]

Thanks for the tip!  I've sold a fair number of handlebars online lately 
and they're a pain, first having to custom make a box, then dealing with 
shipping rates.  Anything that helps - helps!

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 11:44:50 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Since you mentioned the cost of shipping for a large package, check out 
> pirateship.com. Its free to create an account and they offer heavy 
> discounts on shipping. I use it all the time now.
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:30:30 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Uh oh, an available set of Ortho Bars! 
>>
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:16:34 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
>>> (switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
>>> some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
>>> them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd sell 
>>> them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
>>> be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here - 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:
>>>
 Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
 trade) let me know.

 Thanks,
 Brynnar

 On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. 
> I regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just 
> purchased 
> a 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have 
> not 
> :)
>
> Hugh
> LA.
>
>
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>
>> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His 
>> response:
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
>> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the 
>> next batch of bars?
>>
>> -Danny
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? 
>>> It seems like there's much more choice
>>> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with 
>>> a Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Johnny
>>> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a 
 drivetrain upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry 
 to 
 tempt you with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health 
 benefits). 

 John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill 
 Technomic deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost 
 centimeter check 
 'em here 
 
 . 

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips 
 wrote:

> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm 
> quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I 
> do. I 
> don't need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>> putting 
>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
>> don't 
>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>> assumed 
>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>> aesthetics. 
>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with 
>> the 
>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>
>> Bones
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
>>> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 👍

 That gave me a chuckle.

 John

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[James M]

Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
(switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd sell 
them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here 
- https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:

> Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
> trade) let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Brynnar
>
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. I 
>> regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just purchased a 
>> 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have not :)
>>
>> Hugh
>> LA.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>>
>>> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His response:
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
>>> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next 
>>> batch of bars?
>>>
>>> -Danny
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It 
 seems like there's much more choice
 in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a 
 Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.

 Cheers,
 Johnny
 On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
>> don't 
>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>>> putting 
>>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
>>> don't 
>>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>>> assumed 
>>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>>> aesthetics. 
>>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with 
>>> the 
>>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
 along? Because I’m in! Haha

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips 
 wrote:

> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 👍
>
> That gave me a chuckle.
>
> John
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I 
>> seem to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction 
>> compound to 
>> the stem. Oh, I found it. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted 
>>> it on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners 
>>> Bunch  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>>
>>> John
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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[James M]

[image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:

> Decided to switch things up on my Hunq - the Ron's bar is cool, but didn't 
> have the additional forward hand position I needed.  Decided to switch over 
> to the Choco-moose (thanks, Kai!) and it's definitely a better fit for me.  
> A little more width on the back would be nice, probably noticing it more 
> coming from the Ron's, but the 2.5 hand positions I'm getting from this are 
> really good so far!
>
> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[James M]

Decided to switch things up on my Hunq - the Ron's bar is cool, but didn't 
have the additional forward hand position I needed.  Decided to switch over 
to the Choco-moose (thanks, Kai!) and it's definitely a better fit for me.  
A little more width on the back would be nice, probably noticing it more 
coming from the Ron's, but the 2.5 hand positions I'm getting from this are 
really good so far!

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[RBW] Re: WTB Choco-moose

[James M]

Thanks, everyone.  Very appreciative of the info and offers!

James

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 8:19:26 AM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Lean times allover could free up my choco-mooses. They're great on my 
> Clem, but it's currently wearing moosey-mooses. What say $180, pickupable 
> in North Brooklyn or the UWS, or anywhere in between (midway of the GW?)
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Even though I'm going to give my Ron's Ortho bars another shot on my Hunq 
>> with a longer stem, I really want to try out the Choco-moose bars.  Anybody 
>> have a set they want to let go of?  Preferably in the NY/NJ area so we 
>> don't have to deal with shipping, which I assume will be a bear...
>>
>> James
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Choco-moose

[James M]

Thanks, Doug and Eric.  I've seen them on the Rivendell site, and may end 
up going that way, but would love to buy a used pair, if anyone has `em 
collecting dust!

(Might have sent a version of this as a private message - sorry - still 
getting used to the posting system here!)

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 5:20:48 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> They're on the site if you search for 'em but not in the handlebars 
> section 
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-choco-moose-bar-cromo-dulbright-54cm-16250?_pos=2&_sid=ffc888141&_ss=r
>
> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 4:17:58 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I had Choco-moose on a Simple One and really like them. Rivendell may 
>> have them in stock even though they aren't on the website. They did when I 
>> bought mine.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 2:45:45 PM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Even though I'm going to give my Ron's Ortho bars another shot on my 
>>> Hunq with a longer stem, I really want to try out the Choco-moose bars.  
>>> Anybody have a set they want to let go of?  Preferably in the NY/NJ area so 
>>> we don't have to deal with shipping, which I assume will be a bear...
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB Choco-moose

[James M]

Even though I'm going to give my Ron's Ortho bars another shot on my Hunq 
with a longer stem, I really want to try out the Choco-moose bars.  Anybody 
have a set they want to let go of?  Preferably in the NY/NJ area so we 
don't have to deal with shipping, which I assume will be a bear...

James

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[RBW] Re: Show me your derailleur stash

[James M]

The adapter cage setup is "ok".  I had it on my Motobecane restoration, set 
up with 13-32 6 speed in the back, 30/46 in the front.  It covered the 
range fine, but the Campy rear derailleur doesn't track the shape of the 
cassette the way modern derailleurs do.  I swapped it out for a better 
shifting Suntour V-GT Luxe.

On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 10:46:19 AM UTC-5 E. Ricky Creek wrote:

> These are all really cool when seen together like this. I have been 
> curious to try and old Campy derailleur with the Soma adapter cage. 
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/soma-derailleur-cage-threaded-set-2790?category=764
> Has anyone tried that and was it a keeper or just an oddity?
> I honestly probably won't ever stray from the Altus 310 for the rest of my 
> bike life. I stocked up early in the pandemic and have recently been buying 
> the replacement pulleys, too, so I am set. 
> Now for front derailleurs...
>
> On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 9:07:27 AM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>
>> I have been going through all of my various boxes, toolboxes, etc. and 
>> getting all of my various parts organized. Decided to get all of my 
>> derailleurs together. On top are the New-In-Box Dura Ace 7700 GS and the 
>> Campagnolo Rally (version 1a with the reinforced hanger). Below the Dura 
>> Ace is a Dura Ace variant, the LeTour Schwinn Approved GT-350. This was a 
>> rebadged Shimano Crane GS which was what you got with a Dura Ace Touring 
>> Group. This is what came on a Schwinn Paramount P-15 instead of Campagnolo, 
>> because in Schwinn's evaluation it shifter better, which it did. This was 
>> the beginning of the end for Campagnolo's dominance and the start of the 
>> acceptance of Japanese parts at the top levels. The Rally was Campagnolo's 
>> response, their first dropped parallelogram derailleur and the best 
>> shifting Campagnolo derailleur of the Nuovo Record era. But none of these 
>> shifted as well as a Suntour slant parallelogram which was still under 
>> patent at the time. Then there are of course, front and rear Campagnolo 
>> Nuovo Record derailleurs, because in the seventies, if your bike didn't 
>> have Campagnolo, you weren't s**t. There is even a mostly plastic Simplex 
>> Criterium spare for my Gitane in there. An ultra-compact RX100 FD, an 
>> all-silver Sora.
>>
>> [image: DerailleursS.jpg]
>>
>> I know there are other hoarders, uh - I mean collectors, out there.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Technomic 26.0/130/190mm quill stem

[James M]

Might as well give it a shot!  Just sent you a PM.

James

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:32:21 PM UTC-5 Paul M wrote:

> Hello, This stem came off a vintage Rodriquez tandem that was hardly 
> ridden. Looks great with some light marring from being inserted into the 
> steertube. About 90mm up the quill from bottom. Just what you need for your 
> Uncle Ron's Orthopedic handlebars. More pictures available. Thanks.
>
> 130mm reach
> 190mm quill length
> 26.0 handlebar clamp
> -17 degree rise (level when mounted)
> $40 shipped
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[James M]

Thanks, all.  Yes, the Hunqapillar is super cool.  The Atlantis was always 
the touchstone Riv for me, but I really love this wooly mammoth!

DD - yes to aesthetics on the front derailleur, but also worried about 
performance with it so far from the chainrings.  I guess I should give it a 
try and see how it actually works though!

James

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:16:34 PM UTC-5 Dee Dee wrote:

> Hey James, nice looking Hunq!
>
> Re: your front derailleur, is it just an aesthetic issue w/ running the FD 
> high on the seat tube? Or is running it high negatively affecting your 
> shifting?
>
> -Danny
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 6:09 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing, James! Sick Hunq ya got there B) 
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 7:02:28 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on the Jones bars/Hunqapillar combo! Bosco variants had me sitting 
>>> too upright, and the non-bullmoose version was too flexy under load.
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 3:53 PM, Chris L  wrote:
>>>
>>> Congrats on the new bike!  Hunqapillars are a rare model.
>>>
>>>
>>> I love the Jones bar on my Hunqapillar.  
>>>
>>> I've never been able to get comfortable on drops, but I've found a 
>>> similar position on the Jones bar, where the red circle is drawn.  I rest 
>>> my heel on the juncture so that my thumbs hook just inside the loop.  It 
>>> puts me in a nice (relatively speaking, for me) aerodynamic position in 
>>> which I can just cruise.  
>>>
>>> Placing my hands an inch or so behind the controls is very similar to a 
>>> typical mountain bike handlebar.
>>>
>>> At the very back of the grips is used periodically when I want to sit up 
>>> and look around, or more often, to recover a little.  
>>>
>>> I have the 2.5" rise version with 710mm width.  
>>>
>>> [image: 20190324_075108 (2).jpg]
>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:38:34 AM UTC-6 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi, all.  Long time lurker, only recent poster.  I posted a photo in 
 the thread about Ron's Ortho Bars, but thought I should share more 
 generally.  After following Rivendell and buying parts here and there for 
 20 years or so, here's my Hunqapillar 62cm, bought from the wonderful 
 folks 
 at Mack's Bike and Goods, and now winding its way through the iterative, 
 evolutionary process of getting it to what I want it to be.

 It's replacing the Surly Long Haul Trucker that I've had since 2005, 
 but which wasn't cutting it anymore - couldn't get as relaxed a position 
 as 
 I wanted and couldn't fit as big a tire as I wanted.  I had been using 
 that 
 bike not for its loaded touring intention, but for mixed 
 pavement/gravel/light trail rides, like the last few years of the Nutmeg 
 Noreaster.  I restored a Motobecane Grand Record last year that I can use 
 for my road bike, so the move to the Hunqapillar lets me have a 
 do-everything bike that's a little less roadish. 

 The Hunqapillar came around at exactly the right time.  I've built it 
 up with mostly parts from the bin.  A couple of things that I'm working 
 through (and open to any suggestions on!):

 (1) The front derailleur.  I'm using a triple as a double with a bash 
 guard replacing the outer ring, like I've done on other bikes.  I'm using 
 an old Deore XT crank, but on a 113mm bottom bracket spindle that's way 
 too 
 short for it.  I have a 118 handy that I could easily swap in, but the 
 chainline for the "middle" ring seems too perfect to want to move it out.  
 It accommodates the 24/36t rings I want to use just fine.  EXCEPT - a 
 vintage derailleur has to be a mile high on the seat tube to not be 
 hitting 
 the chainstay, and a modern mountain derailleur solves that issue, but 
 won't come in close enough to the seat tube to shift to the small ring.  
 SIGH.  I spent a bunch of time filing down a direct mount adapter, but 
 still can't get close enough.  I may keep going that route, or might do 
 the 
 inverse of the derailleur mod laid out here for quad chainring use and 
 shorten a derailleur cage - 
 http://abundantadventures.com/mtfaq/frontderail/fr.derail.mods.html

 (2) Handlebars.  I jumped on the Ron's Ortho bar sale and was lucky 
 enough to get one.  The problem is that it sweeps back a little too far 
 for 
 me, even with a 120mm stem.  I thought about looking for a 130, but I 
 think 
 I need a bar with a better forward position.  The Ortho bar has a little 
 too much rise for the forward position to work for me, or for me to mount 
 it upside down.  It also can be a bit of a wheelie machine for me when 
 going up a steep hill or steep bit of trail.  But now what? A friend has 
 an 
 Albatross I may borrow to test in the flipped position, or I may look at 
 the

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[James M]

Hi, JP.  Yep - my Hunq has a triple crankset with the outer ring replaced 
by a guard, so chain is on the "middle" ring in front.  I'm not great at 
bike photos, although tried a little harder than usual for my first Riv 
photos - but I had also just finished the exhausting climb up to the top of 
the Reservation, so might not have been firing on all cylinders and just 
took the shots in the gear I was in ;)

James

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 9:38:51 PM UTC-5 MoVelo wrote:

> I'm curious, and I know I have seen this in numerous bike photos before, 
> but why is the chain so severely cross chained. That being the big cassette 
> cog in the back and big ring in the front? Is there a convention for 
> photographing bikes that I am unaware of, or do most folks cross-chain like 
> this and I am missing out on the pleasure by lack of education?
> Now I could be totally misunderstanding the photo, but with my eyes and 
> the resolution of the digital photo is looks as tho the outside (ie largest 
> ring) is in fact a guard and not a toothed chainring. Am I wrong and the 
> chain is in fact on the middle chainring? 
> I am not trying to be critical, just trying to understand why I seem to 
> see this setup in so many seemingly staged photos. Do most folks ride their 
> bikes in this fashion?
> Just curious. 
>
> JP
>
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @James: Have you considered trimming the bars a little shorter? Not the 
>> craziest thing in the world, people modify bars like this all the time. 
>>
>> You might be able to find a pipe cutter for under $20 at your local 
>> hardware store. Would be good to practice on a scrap piece of pipe first! 
>> Or use a hacksaw. File the ends either way. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-15 at 7.11.37 PM.png]
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:40:56 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to throw up a WTT thread at some point, but the Ron's Ortho 
>>> bars have just a couple of inch or inch and a half too much backwards reach 
>>> for my 62cm Hunqapillar (pictured here with a 120mm Technomic).  I think 
>>> I'd be better off with a Billie bar.  I'm in northern NJ, work in 
>>> Manhattan, if anyone would be interested in a trade...
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2022-02-10 161030.png]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:37:30 PM UTC-5 john...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks John, maybe Ronny Romance just has a huge stack of 26mm clamp 
 stems from the 1990s in his parts stash :-)

 I bought a used Clem H in April 2021 and built it with a set of steel 
 Ergotec Beach cruiser bars because they were the only thing
 I could find that looked even little a bit like the Ortho bars. I 
 really love the range of positions, and the sweep is much more natural 
 than 
 flat mtb bars. Not so keen on the 880g weight though...

 Cheers,
 John


 On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 20:05, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Eric, 
>I tried out a 120mm Technomic Deluxe and a 120mm Pearl for initial 
> fit, and I liked the little bit of extra reach the Pearl gives me. A 
> Nitto 
> Pearl stem sunk all the way down in my Hunqapillar's short head tube 
> still 
> puts these bars about 8 cm's above my saddle.
>
> For some reason, Nitto measures the Pearl differently than the 
> Technomic Deluxe and the Pearl is about 8-9mm longer. Why? I don't know.
>
> So if I decide later I need to raise these bars a bit higher, I think 
> I'm going to need that one extra centimeter of the 130mm Technomic Deluxe.
>
>
> Hi Johnny,  
>Most handlebars Crust sells are 26mm or 31.8mm, maybe that's why? 
> Could strength be a factor?  Fingers crossed Crust starts to stock some 
> 120-130mm stems for these bars. 
>
> I think the demand for these bars caught Crust & Uncle Ron completely 
> off guard.  Back in February 2021, when I emailed Uncle Ron with 
> questions 
> about a photo of what looked like giant, mutant Albatross bars on his 
> Atlantis(?), he answered, "congrats on being the only person 
> interested in my ortho back bars lol. it's a state of mind... "
>
> But then Crust put up those Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Back Bars 
> Sesion#1-#3 ride videos up on Youtube, and Uncle Ron posted Instagram 
> photos, and they created a monster.
>
> John
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>>
>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that