Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[nlerner]

Ah, excellent. Thanks, Bill.

On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 1:48:13 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> "What I haven’t been able to figure out is the possible ship date of 
> frames/bikes. Anyone have an idea?"
>
> Well...I asked Will, and he said the boat is on the water and that August 
> 10 is a good guess.  Pick up the phone and give him a call if you want to 
> hear it from him/them.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, July 12, 2024 at 10:23:34 AM UTC-7 nlerner wrote:
>
>> In a moment of list-inspired weakness, I went for a Roaduno frameset, 
>> potentially to replace my Milwaukee Cycles single-speed that’ll fit a 30mm 
>> tire max without fenders (I really like riding single speed and wouldn’t 
>> mind doing it in the rain!). What I haven’t been able to figure out is the 
>> possible ship date of frames/bikes. Anyone have an idea?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Neal Lerner
>> Brookline MA
>>
>> On Friday, July 12, 2024 at 11:40:14 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Two weeks ago I offered money and labor in exchange for all the parts 
>>> from a complete Large Roaduno so that you could get the frame set for 
>>> below-retail.  Nobody took me up on that, and I'm now withdrawing the 
>>> offerbecause I went ahead and bought a 58 Complete.  So, I've got the 
>>> parts kit I was looking for, and it comes with a frame set.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 5:06:56 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> New Email Newsletter all about the Roaduno is out.  So, based on my 
>>>> above "offer", if you plan to buy a 58 or a 61.5 frame set, think about 
>>>> getting the complete instead and letting me in on the parts.  The price 
>>>> delta is $650.  My offer is $700 plus my personal expert labor in helping 
>>>> you pull your complete together.  You'll get the frame a hair cheaper.  I 
>>>> only want to do this if it's local, so we don't have to ship things 
>>>> around. 
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:54:00 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The down tube graphics are exceptional.  I agree the purple "1" on the 
>>>>> silver pops.  I'm hooked on the Saint Jump stickers.  
>>>>>
>>>>> I bought two different R05C0 8U883 bikes because of the rocket 
>>>>> headbadge.  The Rosco Bubbe Road that I owned is available from CMR right 
>>>>> now, and I endorse it.  
>>>>>
>>>>> I half want to convince one of you frame set buyers to get a complete 
>>>>> instead so I can grab the parts kit.  I want a set of the svelte new 
>>>>> Silver 
>>>>> cranks (in 173) and the Saint Jump wheels are great too.  If you are in 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> East Bay hand-off range and want to do something, let me know.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Question to the group; anyone ever bought a bike solely for the 
>>>>>> downtube graphics? Riv nailed it with this Roaduno at least in my book. 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> do particularly like it on the silver but all three look good to me.
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:50 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
>>>>>> martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I agree about the missing canti option. With the upcoming 
>>>>>> V-brake I would have bit the bullet on a silver one myself. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marty
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[nlerner]

In a moment of list-inspired weakness, I went for a Roaduno frameset, 
potentially to replace my Milwaukee Cycles single-speed that’ll fit a 30mm 
tire max without fenders (I really like riding single speed and wouldn’t 
mind doing it in the rain!). What I haven’t been able to figure out is the 
possible ship date of frames/bikes. Anyone have an idea?

Thanks,

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA

On Friday, July 12, 2024 at 11:40:14 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Two weeks ago I offered money and labor in exchange for all the parts from 
> a complete Large Roaduno so that you could get the frame set for 
> below-retail.  Nobody took me up on that, and I'm now withdrawing the 
> offerbecause I went ahead and bought a 58 Complete.  So, I've got the 
> parts kit I was looking for, and it comes with a frame set.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 5:06:56 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> New Email Newsletter all about the Roaduno is out.  So, based on my above 
>> "offer", if you plan to buy a 58 or a 61.5 frame set, think about getting 
>> the complete instead and letting me in on the parts.  The price delta is 
>> $650.  My offer is $700 plus my personal expert labor in helping you pull 
>> your complete together.  You'll get the frame a hair cheaper.  I only want 
>> to do this if it's local, so we don't have to ship things around.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:54:00 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The down tube graphics are exceptional.  I agree the purple "1" on the 
>>> silver pops.  I'm hooked on the Saint Jump stickers.  
>>>
>>> I bought two different R05C0 8U883 bikes because of the rocket 
>>> headbadge.  The Rosco Bubbe Road that I owned is available from CMR right 
>>> now, and I endorse it.  
>>>
>>> I half want to convince one of you frame set buyers to get a complete 
>>> instead so I can grab the parts kit.  I want a set of the svelte new Silver 
>>> cranks (in 173) and the Saint Jump wheels are great too.  If you are in the 
>>> East Bay hand-off range and want to do something, let me know.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Question to the group; anyone ever bought a bike solely for the 
 downtube graphics? Riv nailed it with this Roaduno at least in my book. I 
 do particularly like it on the silver but all three look good to me.
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:50 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
 martin...@gmail.com> wrote:

 And I agree about the missing canti option. With the upcoming V-brake 
 I would have bit the bullet on a silver one myself. 

 Marty

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[RBW] Re: Anyone Fender a Romulus?

[nlerner]

I installed fenders on my now-departed Romulus: https://flic.kr/p/2eiGU18

I believe those are Planet Bike fenders and 32mm Pasela tires.

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA

On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 2:36:00 PM UTC-4 tl4ente...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking to not buy multiple sized fenders and tires, never fendered a bike 
> before, hoping to receive some wisdom. Riv claimed fenders with tires as 
> wide as 35.  SomaFabShop is running a sale this weekend and would like to 
> pick up some Honjos.  If I were to go with 33 or 35 wide tires, would a 
> 43mm or 45mm fender work?  I read that 8mm wider than tire is the min, 
> 10-12 is more ideal.  Have Tektro 559 Long reach side pulls on.  Here is 
> link to Riv description for sizes
> Tommy 
> SoCal
>
> https://notfine.com/rivreader/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Romulus.pdf
>

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[RBW] Re: A College Clem

[nlerner]

Similar to Mackenzy, I’ve been bike commuting to college campuses for many 
decades, the last 30 of which have been in the Boston area. I’ve never had 
a bike stolen likely because (1) I use a decent lock and (2) never park it 
outside overnight. I have colleagues who would never leave their bikes 
outside at all and schlep them up to their offices, navigating too small 
elevators and lots of doorways, but I’ve never seen the need. Sure, bikes 
get stolen around here all the time, but I’m convinced those are the ones 
easiest to steal, e.g., unlocked on a porch or in a backyard or part of a 
larger home break in.

Now that doesn’t mean I necessarily endorse bringing the Clem to college as 
it will likely get thoroughly trashed from daily wear and tear (bike racks 
are not bike-friendly spaces). But I’m also always looking for an excuse to 
build up a commuter for colleagues.

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA

On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 5:07:52 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> I'm amazed at the amount of discouragement of use of the Clem as a college 
> commuting bike. 
>
> I've worked at universities a good chunk of my life and commuted with 
> high(er) end bikes and never had any issues. I like riding nice bikes - 
> which is why I own them. I've parked in high foot traffic zones (in front 
> of libraries, security, etc.) or bring my bike inside ( absolute in 
> downtown Vancouver) when possible or parking my bike is in eyesight 
> (outside my old office at a bike rack in UVIC). Just the standard back 
> wheel lock with cable around the front wheel. Nothing fancy. (no QR seat) 
> Never ever ever leave them parked over night. I always avoid dark or hidden 
> area's, especially near residence halls or maintenance buildings. Granted - 
> some universities and colleges are more sketchy than others. I've found 
> eventually other cyclists with nice or similar bikes will start parking 
> around you. It's a little heartwarming. My biggest issue is the occasional 
> bike jammer - which leads to fender misalignment or dents. Scratches etc. 
> It's the life of a bike. 
>
> I am of the opinion have a wonderful bike to have a wonderful ride 
> everyday not to hide in the garage. On the counterpoint - if one is going 
> to be riding to the bars or parties or potential overnight parking...this 
> is where the shenanigans will happen. It could be good having a "bar 
> hopper" single speed or something of the sort if biking is desired in these 
> situations. 
>
> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 1:50:41 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:
>
>> Have you considered a Brompton for a college bike? The folding nature of 
>> it means it can always be safely inside with your son. 
>>
>> IanA Alberta Canada
>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 8:54:39 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It nearly kills me to say it, but my older son will be heading to 
>>> college in a year. Freshman aren’t to bring cars to campus, so that leaves 
>>> buses, bikes, and your own two feet for transportation. My boys have grown 
>>> up riding Clem Hs; this son rides a 52 cm cast-off from my husband (who 
>>> doesn’t ride, sigh). 
>>>
>>> My 6’3” Dad had a blue 59 cm Clem on order when he died suddenly in 
>>> 2020, and his blue Clem has sat, boxed, waiting for my boy to grow into it. 
>>> I lugged the gargantuan box up from the basement last week to see how if 
>>> the bike would fit. “Now that I’ve obtained optimal height,” my son is fond 
>>> of saying… 
>>>
>>> Anyway, he’s 6’1” now (likely still growing) and I need him to decide if 
>>> he wants to stick with his old Clem H (that he was fond of) or settle into 
>>> this Clem L. Because whichever bike he chooses is getting new wheels, dyno 
>>> and fenders and going to college with him. At first he was opposed to the 
>>> idea of a new Clem; he liked his old Clem, thought it looked cool. But 
>>> after the - as he calls it - Big Bike was assembled, he really began to 
>>> like it. “It looks elegant,” he said. It really does, all long and lithe, 
>>> in blue and silver. He put his saddle and bags on the bike and we test rode 
>>> it tonight. He said, “I am really liking the Big Bike. I like that my knees 
>>> don’t have anything to hit (geez, were his knees hitting his bars?!) and it 
>>> looks elegant. It feels more at home now that I have my old saddle on it.” 
>>>
>>> I have mixed feelings about sending him to college with this bike, 
>>> because it’s so nice. I also doubt he’ll be able to get it on a bus bike 
>>> rack - and I have no idea how often he will want to do that. His bike life 
>>> is totally unknown at this point. All I know is that I’m getting him dyno 
>>> because the kid has never remembered to charge a light in his LIFE and I 
>>> will not sleep at night without it.The 52 takes 650b wheels and the 59 
>>> takes 700c, so I don’t want to buy the wheels until I know which bike he 
>>> really wants. But as of now, he wants his new bike.
>>>
>>> I know people will say we should just 

[RBW] Re: Randonneuring Bike

[nlerner]

In past years before I sold it off, my brevet bike was a Romulus. It saw 
many centuries, a few 200k rides, a 300k ride, and a couple of 24-hour 320k 
flèche team rides. I ran it with 32mm tires and fenders. As others have 
said, comfort at the contact points is key: feet, butt, and hands.

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 1:45:53 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 4:52:59 PM UTC-4 Dick Combs wrote:
>
>> Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K 
>> rides. Looking for current models as well as older models. Thanks
>
>
> I've done 200-600km brevets on various bikes, Rivendell and others. My 
> first 200km was on a Heron road bike, and I just last week set my personal 
> best time for 200km on that same bike. On the first one I had a saddle bag, 
> and that was the last time I did a brevet without a handlebar bag! The most 
> similar Riv models to the Heron road would be Roadeo, Rambouillet, or 
> Roadini. I have done a large amount of brevet riding on a Bleriot, and the 
> "country bike" line descended from that  (A Homer Hilsen, Sam Hillborne) 
> would be similar. 
>
> As others have said, comfort is the priority, but I would be more specific 
> and say that comfort _over many hours_ is the priority. A lot of things, 
> like cushy saddles and cushy shoe soles, are comfortable feeling at the 
> start, but after 8 hours of riding can be the source of much agony. I would 
> put your riding position at the top of the list, and everyone is different 
> in that regard. I am light and flexible and the most comfortable position 
> for me for very long rides is the classic road bike position, back at about 
> 45 degrees, drop bars with the tops almost even with the saddle and a 
> pretty deep drop so my position changes a fair amount as I move around on 
> the bars. One of the important lessons I have learned is that riding too 
> slowly can be a problem, just as trying to ride too fast can be a problem. 
> They are different kinds of problems, to be sure. For me, riding too slowly 
> means 1) I'm in the saddle longer (duh!), and 2) I'm putting more weight on 
> my butt and less on my legs. I have many times been struggling in the last 
> half of a brevet and found that spending some time riding a bit faster has 
> helped me to feel better. Having the ability to change between a broad 
> range of positions is important for me, and all my bikes, despite their 
> differences in tubing and geometry, wind up with very similar rider 
> positioning.
>
> Back to the handlebar bag ... for me that is a very important part of the 
> setup. While I love the way Grant's designs ride and handle, they tend to 
> have fairly high steering flop that is amplified by the weight of a 
> handlebar bag. I don't usually carry a lot of weight there, and  I mostly 
> ride relatively gentle hills,so it's not a deal-breaker. If I was doing a 
> lot of curvy mountain descents, I wouldn't choose a Rivendell with a 
> handlebar bag that had much weight in it. That's one of the reasons I ended 
> up replacing the Bleriot with a bike with less trail. I took the Bleriot 
> (which was my travel bike) down some descents that would have been more fun 
> with more linear steering response. Also, I had my Heron fork pulled for 
> more rake, less trail/flop.
>
> Lastly - tire sizes (carrying over from another recent thread!) - with the 
> wide availability of truly excellent tires in 622 and 584 diameters and a 
> wide range of sizes, it's almost irrelevant what size wheels the bike uses. 
> If your brevets involve rough roads/gravel/dirt, of course you will want 
> pretty wide tires. You probably want decent fenders, too, if there's any 
> chance of it raining. I've done brevets on tires ranging from 26mm to 54mm 
> wide. Wider is generally better, but I've had good and bad rides on all of 
> them. All Rivendells tend to have more tire and fender room than other 
> bikes designed for similar purposes.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>

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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle repairs

[nlerner]

Rudi Mayr’s website is https://rhmsaddles.wordpress.com/author/rudimayr/.

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 5:18:52 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Michael – Must be a typo in the address you provided, it kicked back as 
> "address not found". I used Rudimeyr as you suggested.  
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 5:15:27 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Cool, thanks Michael!
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:59:21 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>> Try Rudimeyr at gmail.com.
>>>
>>> He rebuilds Brooks saddles.
>>>
>>> I have two of his saddles and they are lovely.
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:21:14 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can anyone recommend an outfit that repairs Brooks saddles? I've got a 
 B17 with a twisted nose and bent rails. 
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

[nlerner]

On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 9:19:13 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Neal,
>
> I’m the one you sold the Roadini to and I’m happy to report that I’m 
> loving it! I swapped the 80mm stem for a 60mm and it put me in a slightly 
> more upright position which causes no pain whatsoever. Every other drop bar 
> bike I’ve owned just didn’t feel right after a few hours of riding. Thank 
> you again!
>
> Joe
> Los Angeles, CA
>

Joe, that's great to hear. And a great example of how 
individual/ideosyncratic the fit and ride qualities of any bike might be. 
Ride in good health!

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA USA 

>
>
> On Jan 29, 2022, at 3:43 PM, nlerner  wrote:
>
> I owned a Roadini for a relatively short time before selling it to 
> someone on this list, I believe. I liked the aesthetics a lot, but did find 
> it on the sluggish side and have other bikes that fit the “country bike” 
> theme that I found myself riding instead. Previous to that, I owned a 
> Romulus, which saw many miles and lots of brevet riding, but also was 
> always a bit on the sluggish side, particularly when climbing. Still, it 
> was a really comfortable rig, and well suited to distance riding as long as 
> the hills weren’t too brutal. I sold that once I got a Black Mountain Road, 
> which checks all of the boxes for me: great fit, room for 35mm tires, great 
> climber, planes like the dickens, super comfortable and versatile. So no 
> I’m Riv-less (even sold my ‘94 RB-T!), but I enjoy reading this list.
>
>
> Neal Lerner
> Brookline MA USA
>
> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 1:46:17 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> The tubing spec needs to be matched well with the geometry to provide 
>> what Jan calls planing - the flex in the frame needs to match your power 
>> output and rhythm to give you a small but important "springboard" effect 
>> with each pedal stroke, in order to feel fast.  It really has little to 
>> nothing to do with the weight of the frame, but about how it is tuned to 
>> the rider.  
>>
>> However, Jan tends to think that this basically requires superlight 
>> tubing, but I don't think that's quite true - I think the "rhythm" can be 
>> found in multiples, like harmonics, but if the stiffness of your bike lands 
>> between these harmonics, then it'll feel like you're trying to bounce on a 
>> trampoline where it's out of sync with your jumps. My wild theory is that 
>> the Rivendells that ride like magic despite being objectively quite 
>> overbuilt for a "fast" bike manage to land in the next stiffer "harmonic" 
>> for the average rider. I think my Sam does this for me and I think the 
>> Roadini could very well end up in this zone too.  
>>
>> On Friday, 28 January 2022 at 13:21:45 UTC-8 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:
>>
>>> The Roadini is a very nice looking bike, too.  I hope this does not 
>>> sound superficial, but I enjoy the head badge, the decals, and the painted 
>>> cutouts on the seat lug more than if it were just 2 pounds lighter!  Also, 
>>> I rode a 'Redwood' (tall Romulus) frame back in the 2000's and really liked 
>>> it, but the Roadini is a more advance frame design in general (long head 
>>> tube, sloping top tube, wheel clearance, and more.).  I have an old Calfee 
>>> carbon frame I got used.  It is very light.  But I hardly ride it.  Why? 
>>>  Hard to say, but I suspect that it has a lot to do with how the Roadini 
>>> feels 'planted' or secure (words fail me here), but on the human level, I 
>>> just prefer the look of the Roadini-- it has character and a timeless 
>>> beauty that makes the sum of all its parts more than just a 'fast bike', a 
>>> 'super light frame', or even a practical 'get the job done' machine.  And, 
>>> of course, it is always comfortable!  This is key: the Roadini does not 
>>> cause neck pain, back pain, hand tingling or stress from the worry of going 
>>> down if I hit a pot hole.   I won't be selling mine.
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 12:48:36 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well said, Karl. Add to that the probably (I've not ridden one) 
>>>> signature Rivendell handling of the Roadini* and the pros may well 
>>>> outweigh 
>>>> the cons. And of course, weighing the balance between pros and cons is 
>>>> largely a matter of individual taste.
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Moore, ruthlessly botton-trimming his replies, in ABQ, NM.
>>>>
>>>> * I certainly loved this in the customs, and found it in the Ram and 
>>>> even in the 

Re: [RBW] Roadini heavy?

[nlerner]

I owned a Roadini for a relatively short time before selling it to someone 
on this list, I believe. I liked the aesthetics a lot, but did find it on 
the sluggish side and have other bikes that fit the “country bike” theme 
that I found myself riding instead. Previous to that, I owned a Romulus, 
which saw many miles and lots of brevet riding, but also was always a bit 
on the sluggish side, particularly when climbing. Still, it was a really 
comfortable rig, and well suited to distance riding as long as the hills 
weren’t too brutal. I sold that once I got a Black Mountain Road, which 
checks all of the boxes for me: great fit, room for 35mm tires, great 
climber, planes like the dickens, super comfortable and versatile. So no 
I’m Riv-less (even sold my ‘94 RB-T!), but I enjoy reading this list.

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA USA

On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 1:46:17 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> The tubing spec needs to be matched well with the geometry to provide what 
> Jan calls planing - the flex in the frame needs to match your power output 
> and rhythm to give you a small but important "springboard" effect with each 
> pedal stroke, in order to feel fast.  It really has little to nothing to do 
> with the weight of the frame, but about how it is tuned to the rider.  
>
> However, Jan tends to think that this basically requires superlight 
> tubing, but I don't think that's quite true - I think the "rhythm" can be 
> found in multiples, like harmonics, but if the stiffness of your bike lands 
> between these harmonics, then it'll feel like you're trying to bounce on a 
> trampoline where it's out of sync with your jumps. My wild theory is that 
> the Rivendells that ride like magic despite being objectively quite 
> overbuilt for a "fast" bike manage to land in the next stiffer "harmonic" 
> for the average rider. I think my Sam does this for me and I think the 
> Roadini could very well end up in this zone too.  
>
> On Friday, 28 January 2022 at 13:21:45 UTC-8 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:
>
>> The Roadini is a very nice looking bike, too.  I hope this does not sound 
>> superficial, but I enjoy the head badge, the decals, and the painted 
>> cutouts on the seat lug more than if it were just 2 pounds lighter!  Also, 
>> I rode a 'Redwood' (tall Romulus) frame back in the 2000's and really liked 
>> it, but the Roadini is a more advance frame design in general (long head 
>> tube, sloping top tube, wheel clearance, and more.).  I have an old Calfee 
>> carbon frame I got used.  It is very light.  But I hardly ride it.  Why? 
>>  Hard to say, but I suspect that it has a lot to do with how the Roadini 
>> feels 'planted' or secure (words fail me here), but on the human level, I 
>> just prefer the look of the Roadini-- it has character and a timeless 
>> beauty that makes the sum of all its parts more than just a 'fast bike', a 
>> 'super light frame', or even a practical 'get the job done' machine.  And, 
>> of course, it is always comfortable!  This is key: the Roadini does not 
>> cause neck pain, back pain, hand tingling or stress from the worry of going 
>> down if I hit a pot hole.   I won't be selling mine.
>>
>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 12:48:36 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Well said, Karl. Add to that the probably (I've not ridden one) 
>>> signature Rivendell handling of the Roadini* and the pros may well outweigh 
>>> the cons. And of course, weighing the balance between pros and cons is 
>>> largely a matter of individual taste.
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, ruthlessly botton-trimming his replies, in ABQ, NM.
>>>
>>> * I certainly loved this in the customs, and found it in the Ram and 
>>> even in the Sam, tho' the same had too much wheel flop for my taste.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 1:31 PM Karl Wilcox  wrote:
>>>
 It might be helpful when considering a Roadini to observe that frame 
 stiffness or compliance are not the only things that matter.  I find my 
 Roadini stiffer than I prefer, but the
 Roadini offers other features that I just can't find in other 
 production frames.  For instance, the roadini fits me perfectly and I can 
 get my bars up higher without making the bicycle appear silly or handle 
 funny (my bars are exactly 1 inch below my saddle height).  Also, I can 
 ride 33c tires (I have the 2018 roadini), and the long wheelbase is 
 wonderful.  The Roadini is also versatile: I ride it on trails and on 
 pavement.  I can ride with fast club rides and I can do light touring, 
 too.  I have a 1977 custom Mercian that is wonderfully compliant, but on 
 fast descents it can be scary and it cannot carry any kind of load.  My 
 point is that the Roadini has many virtues, but no individual frame can be 
 any other frame. 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: My Frank Jones Sr is finally where I want it

[nlerner]

On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 12:45:51 AM UTC-5 Arthur Mayfield wrote:

> I do believe you’re correct, at least I’ve never heard of one. I’ve 
> considered building up a Sturmey-hubbed 3spd wheel for my FJ, but finding a 
> nice 120mm OLD hub has been frustrating. Still keeping an eye out for one, 
> though.
>

Hi, no need for a new hub. You can swap in a 6 1/4” axle (Sturmey part # 
HSA.108) on any AW hub and fit it to a frame with a 120mm rear end. You 
usually do also need a bit longer indicator to make up for the longer 
spindle. Here’s an axle for sale (not mine, just the result of a Google 
search):

https://www.hoopriderparts.com/product/sturmey-archer-hsa107-hsa108-axle-for-aw-ab-ag-hubs-5-34in-or-6-14in---nos
 

Cheers,

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA USA

>
> On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 6:37:48 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Looks awesome!  I love the Frank Jones Sr - and dream of building one up 
>> with Sturmey drum brake hubs, 3spd - I think this is the only caliper brake 
>> SS bike from Riv (correct me if I'm wrong!) so it's the ideal candidate... 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 25 December 2021 at 06:29:46 UTC-8 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>>
>>> After innumerable changes, I’m finally happy with the way FJ is set up 
>>> (yeah, I know). I have a Sam (caliper brakes) I need to devote some 
>>> attention to, and I’m still modding my old Bianchi Milano after 23 years, 
>>> lol. The FJ is a wonderful, simple, speedy frame, and after kitting it out 
>>> with various wheel and tire combinations, single and double gearing, racks, 
>>> bags, bells, and other assorted junk (for this bike, not all), I’m down to 
>>> the minimal approach. Rims and hubs are VO, DT Swiss spokes, Soma tires, 
>>> PDW fenders (the best, truly), Tektro brakes, VO cranks, WI ENO freewheel, 
>>> Nitto stem and bars, Brooks saddle, and VO bag. Zoom-zoom!
>>> [image: 5D679D5E-81DC-4D9D-8BCC-6506231289C2.jpeg] 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: For sale: 54cm Roadini

[nlerner]

Thanks for the kind words, Matt. Mark this one as sold. Mr. Leo Roadini is 
moving on to a new owner.

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:20:29 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:

> Great seller, fwiw, and his stuff is always bargain priced.  I have bought 
> far too many frames from Neal, but feel satisfied that this is bordering on 
> being too small for me.  
>
> Best regards,
> Matt Beecher - Wishing he caught the Ebisu that Neal released a few years 
> ago. 
> Oswego, IL  
>
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[RBW] For sale: 54cm Roadini

[nlerner]

Hi, all. On an impulse last summer, I went for a 54cm Roadini, built it up 
with a variety of components I had on hand (except for the TRP brakes in 
silver, which had to come from Germany, I believe), took it for a few 
rides, and, now, realize that I just have too many bikes. My excess is your 
gain! I'd like to sell the complete bike for $1,300, shipping incuded in 
the CONUS from zip 02446. Here's the component list other than the stock 
headset, bottom bracket, and seat post that came with the frame from 
Rivendell:

   - Wheels: Shimano XTR hubs and Mavic MA40 rims (dark anodized though the 
   anodization is worn off of the braking surface), Soma/Panaracer NewXpress 
   700 x 35mm tires
   - Drivetrain: Shimano 105 drivetrain/brifters, 9-speed Shimano cassette 
   (which is actually a 10-speed drivetrain, but I've found it shifts more 
   smoothly with a 9-speed cassette and chain)
   - TRP brakes in silver
   - Andel 46/30t crankset (brand new; installed but not yet used)
   - Nitto technomic stem
   - Soma Highway One bars
   - Camp-and-go-slow eastern rattler bar tape
   - Brooks B17 w/ Ti rails in green
   - MKS GR-9 platform pedals
   - Crane bell
   - V-O Moderniste bottle cages

Pics here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmQXsDos 

Let me know if you have questions or want additional pics.
Thanks,

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA

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Re: [RBW] For sale: misc bike baggage

[nlerner]

Hi, all. Just a quick update on what bags are still available:

*All prices include shipping in the CONUS*. Pics on flickr: 
https://flic.kr/s/aHsmRK9yac  

   - Homebrew LL Bean saddle bag, made from a purse of some sort w/ 
   grommets, support dowel, and straps added: $20
   - V-O black saddlebag, 12” wide, no longer made, baguette bag?: $40
   - Ostrich handlebar bag, new, never used, 8.9L: $80
   - Ortlieb pannier/briefcase, used sparingly, 15" x 10" x 6": $60

Payment via PayPal to lerner dot n at gmail dot com. Shipping from zip 
02446.

Glad to answer questions or provide more info.

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA

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[RBW] Re: For sale: misc bike baggage

[nlerner]

Update on what bags remain:

   - Karrimor saddlebag, probably from the 1970s, duck cotton, hole at one 
   of the strap attachments, quite large, 14" x 8" x 7": $40
   - Schwinn touring saddlebag, duck cotton with plastic lined interior, 
   NOS with original tags!, 14" x 10"x 9": $80
   - Homebrew LL Bean saddle bag, made from a purse of some sort w/ 
   grommets, support dowel, and straps added: $20
   - Ostrich handlebar bag, new, never used, 8.9L: $80
   - Ortlieb saddlebag/briefcase, used sparingly, 15" x 10" x 6": $60

Thanks,

Neal
On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 9:27:23 PM UTC-4 nlerner wrote:

> Folks, apologies for cross-listing, but I'm selling several bags that may 
> be of interest in RBW land. List below and pics, hopefully in the right 
> order, on flickr: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmRK9yac  
>
> *All prices include shipping in the CONUS*, via USPS Priority Mail or 
> First Class. I can also note that unless otherwise stated, all straps and 
> hardware are in very good shape. Measurements are with the bags stuffed 
> with bubble wrap so not exactly precise but close:
>
>- Rivendell Sackville shopsack, medium in grey, new, never used, 20.5" 
>x 10" x 9": $70
>- Karrimor saddlebag, probably from the 1970s, duck cotton, hole at 
>one of the strap attachments, quite large and fairly faded, 14" x 8" x 7": 
>$40
>- Schwinn touring saddlebag, duck cotton with plastic lined interior, 
>NOS with original tags! 14" x 10"x 9": $80
>- No-name vinyl saddlebag w/ leather straps, 11" x 8" x 9": $20
>- V-O/Roadrunner Daytripper saddlebag in blue, new/never used, sells 
>for $90 new: $60
>- Homebrew LL Bean saddle bag, made from a purse of some sort w/ 
>grommets, support dowel, and straps added: $20
>- V-O black saddlebag, 12” wide, no longer made, baguette bag?: $40
>- Ostrich handlebar bag, new, never used, 8.9L: $80
>- Ortlieb saddlebag/briefcase, used sparingly, 15" x 10" x 6": $60
>
> Payment via PayPal to lerner dot n at gmail dot com. Shipping from zip 
> 02446.
>
> Glad to answer questions or provide more info.
>
> Neal Lerner
> Brookline MA
>

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Re: [RBW] For sale: misc bike baggage

[nlerner]

Patrick, I did not (or it's in my Spam). I'll send you an email.

Neal

On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 12:58:25 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Neil: Did you get the direct email about the Karimor bag I sent last 
> night? I'm interested.
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:27 PM nlerner  wrote:
>
>> Folks, apologies for cross-listing, but I'm selling several bags that may 
>> be of interest in RBW land. List below and pics, hopefully in the right 
>> order, on flickr: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmRK9yac  
>>
>> *All prices include shipping in the CONUS*, via USPS Priority Mail or 
>> First Class. I can also note that unless otherwise stated, all straps and 
>> hardware are in very good shape. Measurements are with the bags stuffed 
>> with bubble wrap so not exactly precise but close:
>>
>>- Rivendell Sackville shopsack, medium in grey, new, never used, 
>>20.5" x 10" x 9": $70
>>- Karrimor saddlebag, probably from the 1970s, duck cotton, hole at 
>>one of the strap attachments, quite large and fairly faded, 14" x 8" x 
>> 7": 
>>$40
>>- Schwinn touring saddlebag, duck cotton with plastic lined interior, 
>>NOS with original tags! 14" x 10"x 9": $80
>>- No-name vinyl saddlebag w/ leather straps, 11" x 8" x 9": $20
>>- V-O/Roadrunner Daytripper saddlebag in blue, new/never used, sells 
>>for $90 new: $60
>>- Homebrew LL Bean saddle bag, made from a purse of some sort w/ 
>>grommets, support dowel, and straps added: $20
>>- V-O black saddlebag, 12” wide, no longer made, baguette bag?: $40
>>- Ostrich handlebar bag, new, never used, 8.9L: $80
>>- Ortlieb saddlebag/briefcase, used sparingly, 15" x 10" x 6": $60
>>
>> Payment via PayPal to lerner dot n at gmail dot com. Shipping from zip 
>> 02446.
>>
>> Glad to answer questions or provide more info.
>>
>> Neal Lerner
>> Brookline MA
>>
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[RBW] For sale: misc bike baggage

[nlerner]

Folks, apologies for cross-listing, but I'm selling several bags that may 
be of interest in RBW land. List below and pics, hopefully in the right 
order, on flickr: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmRK9yac  

*All prices include shipping in the CONUS*, via USPS Priority Mail or First 
Class. I can also note that unless otherwise stated, all straps and 
hardware are in very good shape. Measurements are with the bags stuffed 
with bubble wrap so not exactly precise but close:

   - Rivendell Sackville shopsack, medium in grey, new, never used, 20.5" x 
   10" x 9": $70
   - Karrimor saddlebag, probably from the 1970s, duck cotton, hole at one 
   of the strap attachments, quite large and fairly faded, 14" x 8" x 7": $40
   - Schwinn touring saddlebag, duck cotton with plastic lined interior, 
   NOS with original tags! 14" x 10"x 9": $80
   - No-name vinyl saddlebag w/ leather straps, 11" x 8" x 9": $20
   - V-O/Roadrunner Daytripper saddlebag in blue, new/never used, sells for 
   $90 new: $60
   - Homebrew LL Bean saddle bag, made from a purse of some sort w/ 
   grommets, support dowel, and straps added: $20
   - V-O black saddlebag, 12” wide, no longer made, baguette bag?: $40
   - Ostrich handlebar bag, new, never used, 8.9L: $80
   - Ortlieb saddlebag/briefcase, used sparingly, 15" x 10" x 6": $60

Payment via PayPal to lerner dot n at gmail dot com. Shipping from zip 
02446.

Glad to answer questions or provide more info.

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA

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[RBW] Re: PSA. Romulus in Boston Craigslist $900

[nlerner]

Thanks, Brian, Sean, and Max. I'm the owner/seller and am in the Boston 
area; I'm glad to answer questions, take measurements, more pics, etc. I've 
really enjoyed riding this bike for the last eight years and know the next 
owner will, too.

Neal Lerner
Brookline, MA

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 1:24:48 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> FWIW, I know the seller well and have seen the bike in person. I can vouch 
> for the seller's mechanical ability, shipping expertise and all round good 
> nature. I am not the seller
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 11:52:29 AM UTC-4, Sean Steinle wrote:
>>
>> Owner posted on the iBOB list that he is willing to ship for another $100.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 7:40:32 PM UTC-5, maxcr wrote:
>>>
>>> No Affiliation. Looks like a nice ride
>>>
>>>
>>> https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bik/d/brookline-2003-rivendell-romulus-59cm/6876473350.html
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Advice/WTB: Dynamo wheel and/or light

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Back in the fall, I bought one of these for winter commuting:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271336824266

I coupled it with a BM IQ Luxos from 
xxcycle.comhttp://www.xxcycle.com/front-light-iq-luxos-179b-70-lux,,en.php 
for 
the front and a Spanninga Pixeo http://www.ebay.com/itm/281245167680 for 
the rear from the same Taiwanese seller as that wheel. 

I do have an SP dyno wheel on a different bike, and it's held up great 
through a couple of years of commuting and New England winters, but for a 
quick, relatively inexpensive setup, I'm happy with those other components.

Neal
Brookline, MA

On Monday, January 20, 2014 12:31:47 PM UTC-5, William! wrote:

 I've been meaning to get a dynamo set up on my bike for the last 5 years 
 or so. Anyone have something sitting around that'd get me up and running? 
 Or maybe just a pointer on where to get started.

 Thanks,
 William


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