Re: [RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
Resurrected thread from 2017!? Incidentally, I have a brand new-in-box, never installed Brooks B72 that I’ve been trying to find tbe right bike for. Any more (historical) perspectives on the merits of the B72 versus the sprung B67, which I’ve had installed on my daily commuter for 7+ years? Eric in Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7c153491-c0d5-47bb-b1d1-d79544482373%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
The "Aged" version of the Brooks B68 is better,BUT only after I tweeked mine as I don't care what Brooks ads say about ANY of them being comfortable from day one,...they were still hard. (initially! :-) But after I did my usual "treatment" I do on ALL my saddles, it's comfy and the wider B68 is fine on my behind! :-) I Do like the "Aged" version because the pebbled surface soaks in the first application of the Brooks "Proofhide" product better than the smooth grained saddles. I know Brooks used to say Aged Saddles didn't need Proofide, but that's BS in my experience! I do both Top and Bottom,and THEN the real workout begins. I mount the saddle on a bike, and fold a few layers of canvas over the top. I use a couple of the US Mint coin bags I have laying around,...but some old jeans or similar should work as well then I use a 2-1/2 pound leather mallet and hammer into the saddle top about 300 times, covering as evenly as you can. I do the first hundred strikes a bit more moderately, and the last 200 with stronger hits. The early strikes begin to loosen the fibers and later ones add greatly to the Comfort level. Now the saddles feel like a well "broken in" Keister Cushion! I've "treated" maybe 10 or 12 Brooks leather saddles this way over about 25 years, and NEVER had one tear,...or even scratch from the leather mallet strikes,...AS LONG AS you use several layers of canvas or similar to protect from direct contact with the leather mallet. (I seem to recall using a rubber mallet once too a long time ago?) I also know that Brooks or any other saddle maker would likely say you are "abusing" their product, but as I bought it I can do what I want to to it. My experience is it does NO harm, and only improves the riding comfort for Immediate results. Now nearing age 64, I don't have TIME to wait a few years for a new HARD and uncomfortable Leather Saddle to "Break In",and when I was younger I didn't have the Patience! :-) Oh,...i'll say it but it should be obvious,...DON'T use a regular STEEL Hammer to do this! It doesn't spread out the striking forces enough, and concentrates the energy in a way that you may create dimples or other damage to the leather. In the end you assume any risk, but my experience over decades has shown this to be a safe procedure if done in the way I outline. Joe T On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 1:20:31 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > One of you probably has my B68. The "wooden church pew" effect Leah > mentioned didn't work for me at all. It's very wide, with an almost > vertical face that drops down behind your thighs, and for me created a > similar effect to legs rubbing against a packed Carradice saddlebag. I kept > sliding forward to get away from the wooden bench behind me, and was not a > happy rider. Me no likey! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/97b87176-a1da-4eb4-b601-4aedc58212d8%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
It's probably almost as heavy. On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > I want to put the B190 on my folder. It's bigger than the bike! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- *30% Supply and Demand discount, listmembers only, on all resume, LinkedIn, and writing services, until Demand equals Supply! And there's more! 10% kickback for any referral resulting in fully paid, list-price contract. And still more! I am offering services in trade for a road bike, or frame and parts, that are period compatible with my AM hub, circa 1937 to 1961. See my website for what I do and what I charge; email for details.* Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ** ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
I want to put the B190 on my folder. It's bigger than the bike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
I mean, "with the b 72 ..." On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > ...possibly the B 68, though I may be confusing that with the Flyer. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
This is sort of an aside, but I swear that, if I ever set up an upright bike, I'll install a B 190, just because. IIRC, there was an even more elaborate model in the old days that combined coil and loop springs; my Hero had a Brooks copy with 3 huge chromed loops at each end rear and at the nose, but IIRC, there was one that had the loops and coils. More seriously, I've used the Champion Flyer, the B 67, the B 72, and possibly the B 68, though I may be confusing that with the Flyer. (I've also used the B 17, B 17 narrow, and the Pro, as well as various other leather saddles.) At any rate, I never got much use from the springs and found that the shape affected comfort much more than "give". I gather that the B 72 is a mean between the unsprung 68 and the coil spring 67, sort of. This might help: http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2010/11/choosing-upright-saddle-brooks-b72-vs.html On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Jonathan D. wrote: > I am loving my new Joe Appaloosa. I think I officially bought the final > 55 Silver from Rivelo on Saturday. I realize my current B17 Saddle isn't a > great fit for the more upright position. I am considering the B67 but > really don't need the springs. The B68 seems like it would be a great > choice but it is discontinued. Any advice or thoughts on saddles? Do the > springs do much in regards to ride feel or weight? Is there a good > alternative to the B68? I might be interested in purchasing a used B68 or > I'll stick with a B67. > > I'll have to do a right report soon. So far i am loving the ride. Thanks > in advance for all of your advice. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- *30% Supply and Demand discount, listmembers only, on all resume, LinkedIn, and writing services, until Demand equals Supply! And there's more! 10% kickback for any referral resulting in fully paid, list-price contract. And still more! I am offering services in trade for a road bike, or frame and parts, that are period compatible with my AM hub, circa 1937 to 1961. See my website for what I do and what I charge; email for details.* Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ** ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
I really only do upright or fairly upright riding anymore. No dropped bars left on my bikes. Both the B17 and the B68/B67 work for me for this type of riding. I find each saddle to be unique in feel. Some are great off the bat and others take time to get there and a few just don't cut it. Overall though I'm a great fan of Brookes. On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 1:20:31 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > One of you probably has my B68. The "wooden church pew" effect Leah > mentioned didn't work for me at all. It's very wide, with an almost > vertical face that drops down behind your thighs, and for me created a > similar effect to legs rubbing against a packed Carradice saddlebag. I kept > sliding forward to get away from the wooden bench behind me, and was not a > happy rider. Me no likey! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
One of you probably has my B68. The "wooden church pew" effect Leah mentioned didn't work for me at all. It's very wide, with an almost vertical face that drops down behind your thighs, and for me created a similar effect to legs rubbing against a packed Carradice saddlebag. I kept sliding forward to get away from the wooden bench behind me, and was not a happy rider. Me no likey! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
I believe I have a B68 in the stash. I'll double check and let you know. They are a great saddle for upright riding - can't understand why they were discontinued. Dan > On Apr 19, 2017, at 7:15 PM, Jonathan D. wrote: > > I am loving my new Joe Appaloosa. I think I officially bought the final 55 > Silver from Rivelo on Saturday. I realize my current B17 Saddle isn't a > great fit for the more upright position. I am considering the B67 but really > don't need the springs. The B68 seems like it would be a great choice but it > is discontinued. Any advice or thoughts on saddles? Do the springs do much > in regards to ride feel or weight? Is there a good alternative to the B68? I > might be interested in purchasing a used B68 or I'll stick with a B67. > > I'll have to do a right report soon. So far i am loving the ride. Thanks in > advance for all of your advice. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
I have the B68 on my Bets and I LOVE it. My husband has the B67 on his Clem and I like it far less. His seems softer, somehow, and maybe saggy? The springs aren't fun to work around if you plan to use a Saddlesack. I like the harder B68; it's like sitting on a wooden church pew. They're offered for sale occasionally, and you may find one if you nose around a bit. Or you could check out Rivet since it seems highly recommended. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
Are you sure about the B17? I have them on my Appaloosa and ebike, both of which are upright-ish rides, and they're great. Both bikes got B17s I'd already broken in; if you're running a new one on your new bike, you might want to give the fit a few weeks to work out for you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
I bought several b68 saddles for the exact reason you mentioned. I liked the size and shape for upright riding and didn't need the springs. I do own the B67 too but often the springs on these types of saddles squeak which I don't care for. Some lube often helps with that. Overall I favor the B68. I bought several of them from a list member here a while back -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
I haven't tried one, but the Rivet Loveland is pretty much the same shape/size as a B68. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] (maybe) WTB Brooks B68 - Question regarding brooks saddle for Joe Appaloosa
I am loving my new Joe Appaloosa. I think I officially bought the final 55 Silver from Rivelo on Saturday. I realize my current B17 Saddle isn't a great fit for the more upright position. I am considering the B67 but really don't need the springs. The B68 seems like it would be a great choice but it is discontinued. Any advice or thoughts on saddles? Do the springs do much in regards to ride feel or weight? Is there a good alternative to the B68? I might be interested in purchasing a used B68 or I'll stick with a B67. I'll have to do a right report soon. So far i am loving the ride. Thanks in advance for all of your advice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
