Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

[Harry Travis]

Go to ebay and find current or recently offered cordura canvas briefcase from 
Arkel. Bulletproof lifetime guaranteed zipper and attachment Clip to bike rack.
Likely comes with stiffener and a sleeve for laptop, etc. 
 $50 + shipping? 

Or, Arkel likely offers one to meet current fashion sensibility.

Daily User of Arkel for 15 years. They are readily disassembled so they can be 
laundered of all dirt. 

--
Harry P Travis
15.6

On Aug 11, 2022, at 11:27 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:


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One Rivendell to rule them all - 5 Updates
Canti-Rom - 63 cm - CA Delivery - 4 Updates
Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width) - 6 Updates
WTB/ISO: Handsome laptop-sized pannier - 4 Updates
FS: Clem Smith L 59cm (Utah) - 2 Updates
FS: Sackville Items - 1 Update
Clem H curious - 1 Update
FS: Rivendell Atlantis - 56cm, 650b (2017 Model) - 1 Update
Jobst Brandt photo archive on instagram - 1 Update
One Rivendell to rule them all
Alexander Chalmers : Aug 11 08:44AM -0700 

Hi all,
 
I'm a new group member but long time Riv fan. I recently came the closest 
I've come to actually buying Rivendell, having only recently reached a 
point where it has not felt out of reach financially. Anyway, it got me 
wondering - what is the one model you would choose, current or 
discontinued, if you could only have one?
 
Alternately, what is your favorite Rivendell you have owned?
 
Asking in part because I am wondering where to start myself - I've wanted a 
Hunqapillar for a long time, and recently have become a bit obsessed with 
the Quickbeam as well - but every model seems great in its own way. Mostly 
just curious what you all find yourself riding the most though!
Richard Rose : Aug 11 08:44PM -0400 

If memory serves, I think Rivendell themselves asked this same question on 
their Instagram page. There were quite a few responses. 
As for me, got to be my Clem L. 
The long wheelbase with room for big tires are available on several models, but 
only one is a step through. Game changer. Well actually the Platy is a step 
through also but I’ve not had the pleasure.
 
Sent from my iPhone
 
Joe Bernard : Aug 11 10:20PM -0700 

Welcome Alexander! 
 
My answer is a cheat because I'd pick my custom but it kinda translates to 
a production model which would also be my pick, Platypus. Lugged frame, low 
stepover, beautiful paint (I love the Mermaid ones, and Leah Bicycle Belle 
Ding Ding's Raspberry), semi-light tubing for a lively road ride, maybe not 
the first choice for heavy loads or hardcore trails. 
 
But that's my 'light for pavement' bias; models like Atlantis, Appaloosa, 
Hunqapillar, Bombadil and Clem H/L are better choices for heavier duty 
stuff. 
 
Joe Bernard 
 
Emily Guise : Aug 11 11:05PM -0700 

My Platypus for sure. For the mostly in-town riding I've been doing for the 
last year, it's been a dream. Such a smooth ride! So gorgeous! She garners 
fans wherever she goes.
 
I actually felt very guilty about spending so much money on a bike (even 
though some of it was Uncle Sam's stimulus $$), but the Platy really is a 
functional work of art, so I got over the guilt eventually. If you ever 
have a chance to get a Riv, Alexander, I don't think you'd regret it. I 
hope it happens for you!
 
-Emily
 
On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 10:20:32 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
 
Joe Bernard : Aug 11 11:26PM -0700 

So pretty, Emily! I haven't seen a LimeOlive Platy in a while and kinda 
forgot how striking they are. Love the grips, too! 
 
On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 11:05:13 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
 
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Canti-Rom - 63 cm - CA Delivery
jim <4421...@gmail.com>: Aug 11 03:20PM -0700 

Beautiful bike!
I used to have one and regret selling it. Of course with my arthritis I 
probably couldn't ride it 😔
 
On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 9:07:56 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
 
Dan Sullivan : Aug 10 07:38PM -0700 

these are a great color. I've got one that shares time with my BMC 
monstercross. Really a nice, light, fast bike and it seems like everyone 
who sees it comments on the color. I run 38 Gravel Kings that are wonderful 
tires.
 
Dan in the driftless hills of SW Wisconsin
 
On Wednesday, August 10, 2022 at 9:07:56 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
 
Mike Godwin : Aug 11 10:11PM -0700 

Is said bike still traveling with you Jim? I converted 88 cm to inches. 
Having a 90.5 PBH, that leaves to little clearance for the uh, gentlemen, 
and leaves me out of the running. Dang cool bike! Great talking with you on 
Saturday and wish you good journeys on the remainder of your holiday.
 
Mike SLO CA 
On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 12:15:48 PM UTC-7 Jimmy Warren wrote:
 
James Warren : Aug 11 11:01PM -0700 

Yeah Mike,
 
Still on the road with me till around the 17th.
Great talking to you too!
 
 
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Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)
Ben Adrian : Aug 11 10:34AM -0700 

I just put the 700 x 35 Rene

Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

[Mary Gersemalina]

bleep blorp! sent from my phone
On Jun 14, 2016 3:39 PM,  wrote:

> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
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> 
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>- Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research
><#m_1277912225395663076_group_thread_0> - 12 Updates
>- Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks
><#m_1277912225395663076_group_thread_1> - 5 Updates
>- WTB/WTT: Looking for a 46cm Noodle Bar
><#m_1277912225395663076_group_thread_2> - 1 Update
>- Separation anxiety at an all time high!!
><#m_1277912225395663076_group_thread_3> - 1 Update
>- Thoughts on Cambium? <#m_1277912225395663076_group_thread_4> - 2
>Updates
>- Joe Appaloosa on tour <#m_1277912225395663076_group_thread_5> - 1
>Update
>- FS- 64cm Wisconsin borne Samuel Hillborne frameset
><#m_1277912225395663076_group_thread_6> - 1 Update
>- Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?
><#m_1277912225395663076_group_thread_7> - 1 Update
>- Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?
><#m_1277912225395663076_group_thread_8> - 1 Update
>
> Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research
> 
> Jan Heine : Jun 14 09:51AM -0700
>
> In science, it's important that results are replicable - this means that
> anybody doing the same experiment must get the same results. I was excited
> to learn that recently, Joshua Poertner (formerly of Zipp, now of Silca)
> has replicated our results on tire pressure: Higher tire pressures don't
> make you faster on smooth pavement, and definitely are slower on rough
> surfaces. He apparently used the same rumble strip method as we did when
> we
> first quantified suspension losses.
>
> More about this is here:
>
> https://janheine.wordpress.com/2016/06/14/suspension-losses-confirmed/
>
> It's exciting that what used to be highly controversial now is entering
> the
> mainstream. And I want to thank the listmembers who were open to these
> ideas long before anybody else.
>
> Jan Heine
> Editor
> Bicycle Quarterly
> www.bikequarterly.com
> Deacon Patrick : Jun 14 10:19AM -0700
>
> Thank you, Jan! What you said about the vibrations in the body (and thus
> the brain) and your being sore all over after testing, got a big "Yes!"
> from me, as I've found my brain energy is sucked out rapidly with stiffer
> tires.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 10:51:58 AM UTC-6, Jan Heine wrote:
> Shoji Takahashi : Jun 14 11:53AM -0700
>
> The article referenced by Jan features a French-blue Rivendell Road with
> resist nomads:
> http://trstriathlon.com/talking-tires-with-joshua-poertner/
>
> (I think this is David's bike, and I hope he's compensated given the
> reference to photopin license. His Flickr feed shows up as no commercial
> use.)
>
> I like this section (towards bottom of the article):
>
> > stays to hold them? Who is going to manufacture all this stuff, and how
> > will the bike designer, the wheel builder, and the tire maker negotiate
> the
> > new standards?
>
>
> Indeed, who is going to manufacture all this stuff???
>
> shoji
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 12:51:58 PM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote:
> Peter White : Jun 14 03:19PM -0400
>
> I remember being told this by one of the technical people from Michelin
> some 35 years ago at the east coast trade show - what is now Interbike in
> Las Vegas. They knew back then that very high pressures gave you no
> advantage. So this tendency for tire manufacturers in the past 30 years to
> rate their tires with higher and higher pressures has always seemed odd to
> me. But clearly, the public has been sold on the idea that higher pressure
> is better, to the detriment of ride quality, performance, and the
> durability of rims.
>
>
> --
> Peter White
> Lungimsam : Jun 14 12:51PM -0700
>
> What role does tire pressure and width play in difficulty/ease of tire
> spin up?
> Peter White : Jun 14 03:57PM -0400
>
> Please define spin up?
>
>
> --
> Peter White
> Lungimsam : Jun 14 01:54PM -0700
>
> Spin-up:
> Starting from a stop and getting the bike revved-up to cruising speed
> where one abandons standing on their pedals and takes their seat.
>
> "Spinning-up" the tires/bike from the stop to cruising speed.
> cyclotourist : Jun 14 02:02PM -0700
>
> Hey, that picture does look familiar! Thanks for the heads up, Shoji!
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Shoji Takahashi <
> shoji.takaha...@gmail.com
>
> --
> Cheers,
> David
>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
> cyclo

Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

[Robert Kirkpatrick]

The ferry from Tokeland to Wesport hasn't run in years, so he couldn't really 
get further down the coast from there. That being said 109 from Hoquim to 
Tokeland is not at all what I'd call "much nicer" than the 105. The 109 is 
quite hilly, has no shoulder and just as much if not more traffic. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:54 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Planning first longish bike tour in Oregon. Suggestions?   
> 
>  
> Chris Chen : Feb 27 10:22AM -0800 
> 
> From Raymond to Aberdeen I took the route out to Tokeland and along the
> coast, back along Gray's Harbor. Far nicer!
>  
>  
> -- 
> "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah
> Back to top
> Grant sets them straight with letter to editor   
> hangtownmatt : Feb 27 09:58AM -0800 
> 
> If it isn't the frame than I suppose it must be the Sugino crank. 
> Something's flexing.
>  
> Matt
>  
> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:46:38 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> Mark Reimer : Feb 27 11:59AM -0600 
> 
> What kind of crank is it? Some cranks with small BCD and large, stamped
> rings can flex a lot.
>  
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:58 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> Back to top
> Solvent tank for drivetrain cleaning   
> hsmitham : Feb 27 09:37AM -0800 
> 
> Jim,
>  
> I just use a plastic wash tub and simple green, works like a charm and 
> stores away easy. 
>  
> ~Hugh
>  
> On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 10:35:22 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
> Back to top
> If you want to monitor progress on my DIY springless rear derailer project, a 
> flickr album 
> princeofsherwood : Feb 27 04:47AM -0800 
> 
> On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:00:27 PM UTC+1, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>  
> > What Jan did was fix up a Nivex. By design the Nivex has constant chain 
> > tension. 
>  
> > Hello,
> great subject on tinkering.
> I am curious to understand how the nivex achieves to maintain constant 
> chain tension.
>  
> I have ridden on bike equipped with the cyclo and the smooth action of the 
> lever is impressive since there is no spring on your way!
>  
> I have a NOS suntour S1 that I purchased in order to try something new but 
> have't had the time to start this project and winter is soon over;)
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Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

[Chris Chen]

You mean Westport to Ocean Shores. That's true. I came back along Gray's
Harbor then onto Quinault (going North).

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Robert Kirkpatrick 
wrote:

> The ferry from Tokeland to Wesport hasn't run in years, so he couldn't
> really get further down the coast from there. That being said 109 from
> Hoquim to Tokeland is not at all what I'd call "much nicer" than the 105.
> The 109 is quite hilly, has no shoulder and just as much if not more
> traffic.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:54 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
>
>  Planning first longish bike tour in Oregon. Suggestions?
> 
>
>
>   Chris Chen : Feb 27 10:22AM -0800
>
> From Raymond to Aberdeen I took the route out to Tokeland and along the
> coast, back along Gray's Harbor. Far nicer!
>
>
> --
> "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah
>   Back to top <#14bcd4f59fa0d6aa_digest_top>
>   Grant sets them straight with letter to editor
> 
>   hangtownmatt : Feb 27 09:58AM -0800
>
> If it isn't the frame than I suppose it must be the Sugino crank.
> Something's flexing.
>
> Matt
>
> On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 4:46:38 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>   Mark Reimer : Feb 27 11:59AM -0600
>
> What kind of crank is it? Some cranks with small BCD and large, stamped
> rings can flex a lot.
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:58 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>   Back to top <#14bcd4f59fa0d6aa_digest_top>
>   Solvent tank for drivetrain cleaning
> 
>   hsmitham : Feb 27 09:37AM -0800
>
> Jim,
>
> I just use a plastic wash tub and simple green, works like a charm and
> stores away easy.
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 10:35:22 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
>   Back to top <#14bcd4f59fa0d6aa_digest_top>
>   If you want to monitor progress on my DIY springless rear derailer
> project, a flickr album
> 
>   princeofsherwood : Feb 27 04:47AM
> -0800
>
> On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 10:00:27 PM UTC+1, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> > What Jan did was fix up a Nivex. By design the Nivex has constant chain
> > tension.
>
> > Hello,
> great subject on tinkering.
> I am curious to understand how the nivex achieves to maintain constant
> chain tension.
>
> I have ridden on bike equipped with the cyclo and the smooth action of the
> lever is impressive since there is no spring on your way!
>
> I have a NOS suntour S1 that I purchased in order to try something new but
> have't had the time to start this project and winter is soon over;)
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Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

[Keven]

Hey there!
I'm away from Rivendell (and email) until Monday, August 11th.  For Cheviot 
inquiries please email vi...@rivbike.com or call.  If you need immediate 
assistance please call 925-933-7304 or 800-345-3918.
Cheers,
keven

On Aug 1, 2014, at 5:22 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's topic summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/topics
>   *   Deflate bike tires before ascent in car? [7 Updates]
>   *   650b wheel building question [6 Updates]
>   *   RBWHQ Spy Photos!! [2 Updates]
>   *   Minneapolis country bike rally [2 Updates]
>   *   Continental Divide 4 day Bikepack [1 Update]
>   *   ISO Meishas bar end grips [1 Update]
>   *   Refined S240 setup! [4 Updates]
>   *   FS/WTT: Nitto Technomic and Moustache [1 Update]
>   *   FS: 60cm Ritchey Road Logic Frame, fork and Chris King headset 
> [1 Update]
>  Deflate bike tires before ascent in car?
>   *   Metin Uz  Aug 01 11:21AM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   On Friday, August 1, 2014 5:42:04 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>   *
>   *   > from sea level to 7000', you'll get a 20% increase in tire 
> pressure
>   *
>   *   That's true, only if you start with 0psi in your tires. The 
> ambient 
>   *   pressure has dropped, but this does not proportionally increase 
> the tire 
>   *   pressure, it simply adds a few psi to the pressure. It's easy 
> to conduct a 
>   *   thought experiment to verify this. Imagine a tire taken to 
> space (or vacuum 
>   *   environment). The pressure goes up by 14.7psi, which is the 
> original 
>   *   ambient pressure no longer counteracting the pressure from the 
> air in the 
>   *   tires. If the pressure were to be scaled, it would increase by 
> an infinite 
>   *   ratio!
>   *
>   *   --Metin
>   *
>   *   Anne Paulson  Aug 01 11:35AM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   If your tire is going to explode if its pressure increases by 5 
> psi, you
>   *   should not deflate it when you go to altitude. Rather, you 
> should get a new
>   *   tire at once, because you are riding on a dangerous tire.
>   *
>   *
>   *
>   *   -- 
>   *   -- Anne Paulson
>   *
>   *   It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.
>   *
>   *   Ron Mc  Aug 01 12:21PM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   Mad's 1000 snappy answers? 
>   *
>   *   On Friday, August 1, 2014 1:35:43 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
>   *
>   *   Chris Chen  Aug 01 12:30PM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   Wait. You ride on recycled PET plastic containers? :)
>   *
>   *   are they supple?
>   *
>   *
>   *
>   *   -- 
>   *   "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah
>   *
>   *   dougP  Aug 01 02:36PM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   Professional race team support vehicles carry loads of spare 
> wheels, fully 
>   *   inflated & ready to ride, up to significant altitudes, often 
> multiple times 
>   *   during the day, with no concern about exploding tires. My guess 
> is these 
>   *   tires are a good deal lighter in construction than a typical 
> touring tire. 
>   *
>   *   I've seen that with food & beverage containers. Always point 
> them away 
>   *   from yourself when opening to avoid splatters. Even happens on 
> pressurized 
>   *   airplanes. 
>   *
>   *   dougP
>   *
>   *   On Friday, August 1, 2014 12:30:27 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>   *
>   *   Garth  Aug 01 03:06PM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   Yogurt containers bulging has more to do with the live cultures 
> and natural 
>   *   bacteria in it than elevation. You can often see containers of 
> yogurt at 
>   *   any level as they near the expiration date may bulge. Not to 
> mention a host 
>   *   of dairy products and other foods . I would not buy them !!
>   *
>   *   Metin Uz  Aug 01 05:17PM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   No, yogurt containers bulge and water bottles do too. They are 
> at 0 psi 
>   *   when they are sealed, so the change in ambient pressure results 
> in a large 
>   *   percentage change. Not so for a tire already under pressure.
>   *
>   *   --Metin
>   *
>   *   On Friday, August 1, 2014 3:06:26 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>   *
>  650b wheel building question
>   *   Anton Tutter  Aug 01 07:17AM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   The idea is that you want the spokes to be

Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

[Keven]

Hey there!
I'm away from Rivendell (and email) until Monday, August 11th.  For Cheviot 
inquiries please email vi...@rivbike.com or call.  If you need immediate 
assistance please call 925-933-7304 or 800-345-3918.
Cheers,
keven

On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:47 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's topic summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/topics
>   *   fs: Rivendell Atlantis ~ 56cm - frame/fork/Chris King 
> headset/bottom bracket [1 Update]
>   *   The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread [9 Updates]
>   *   WTB VP thin gripster/med. wald basket [8 Updates]
>   *   Rivendell should hook up with these people [1 Update]
>   *   Wanted: 53 Roadeo or 54 Rambouillet [1 Update]
>   *   For Sale / Trade : Nitto Bosco Bullmoose [1 Update]
>   *   FS: numerous parts/accessories - 650B MB Trimline tires, NSmyth 
> saddlebag, DirtDrops, CP brakes, etc [1 Update]
>   *   FS: One more VO Model 5 (was FS: three Velo Orange leather 
> saddles) [1 Update]
>   *   HAR!! [2 Updates]
>  fs: Rivendell Atlantis ~ 56cm - frame/fork/Chris King headset/bottom bracket
>   *   Eric  Aug 04 01:32PM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   For sale: Rivendell Atlantis 56cm. Outfitted with a Chris King 
> headset & 
>   *   bottom bracket (purchased from Riv, whatever they recommended).
>   *
>   *   Some chips, knicks and a bit of chain suck but overall very 
> nice. No dents! 
>   *   Good photos incoming.
>   *
>   *   $1500 shipped in CONUS. PayPal is cool (via "pay for goods" w/ 
> fees 
>   *   covered).
>   *
>  The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
>   *   Bill Lindsay  Aug 04 08:10AM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   Andy
>   *
>   *   I like what you had to say about utility. I agree that a truly 
> stripped 
>   *   down bike that is often not enough bike for the job is kind of 
> lame. That 
>   *   said, a stripped down bike that is just enough bike for a 
> stripped down 
>   *   application can be cool, too. Anyway, the only build I have 
> that I sweated 
>   *   the weight is not a Rivendell. It's my main brevet bike. I list 
> it here, 
>   *   at the risk of being too far OT, just because it's a build kit 
> that could 
>   *   work just as well on a Rivendell. The summary highlight is that 
> it's a 
>   *   steel frameset, wide tires, all metal parts, a front rack and 
> decaleur, 
>   *   dynamo hub, front and rear lights, full coverage fenders and 
> fender flap, 
>   *   and a bell, and still weighs 21.0 lbs. It features a lot of 
> nice MUSA 
>   *   parts. 
>   *
>   *
>   *   
> 
>   *
>   *   My Rawland Stag
>   *   Frameset: Rawland Stag Size Large (58cm), Jeff Lyon custom 
> threadless fork, 
>   *   Miche headset
>   *
>   *   Wheelset: White T11 R hub, Schmidt front, Pacenti PL23 rims, 
> Pari-moto 
>   *   tires, Schwalbe SV14A tubes (from Riv), allen key skewers
>   *
>   *   Drivetrain: Rene Herse cranks, Ultegra SPD pedals, Dura Ace 
> 10sp F+R Ders, 
>   *   and DT shifters. SRAM 11-26 cassette and chain, WI Ti BB. 
>   *
>   *   Components: Soba bars, Kelly Stem, CR720 brakes (from Riv), 
> modified 
>   *   Tektro brakelevers, Paul Funky Monkey hangers, Ultegra 
> Seatpost, Selle 
>   *   Italia SLR Ti saddle, newbaums tape (from Riv)
>   *
>   *   Extras: Grand Bois rack, Berthoud decaleur, hanging Edelux 
> headlamp (from 
>   *   Riv), Ti King Cages (from Riv), alloy crane bell, Honjo 
> hammered fenders, 
>   *   homemade flap, Pixeo battery powered taillight.
>   *
>   *   The only carbon bit on the bike is the rear derailer pulley 
> cage has some 
>   *   carbon. I did a few weight shaving tricks in the build. I had 
> been 
>   *   shooting for under 19lbs when the fenders and lights were off, 
> but as you 
>   *   could predict, I never ride it with the fenders and lights 
> removed, so who 
>   *   knows whether I actually made it. :)
>   *
>   *   Bill Lindsay
>   *   El Cerrito, CA
>   *
>   *
>   *
>   *   On Monday, August 4, 2014 2:15:10 AM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote:
>   *
>   *   justinaug...@gmail.com Aug 04 09:20AM -0700  
>   *   
>   *   Question for weight savings:
>   *   Given the mass of different objects, where does it make sense 
> to go aluminum OR titanium over steel? Leaving out crabon since that's not 
> the discussio

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Joel : Sep 03 01:03PM -0700

The first ride was interesting, I had to stop a few times to make tweaks.
So this will be the last time I use this mechanic. First he wasn’t sure
how to wrap the bars, ok, I can do that, and probably better as I may move
the levers a bit. The brake pads were rubbing and I had him loosen the fit
a bit, ok, that can happen. About 1/2 mile from home I stopped to check
something and the rear break sounded like an elephant, that has worked
itself out pretty much but the front still is loud. The bars, they were
not tightened enough and that almost caused a problem with that first stop.
The pics won’t reflect where the bars are set now but higher than in the
outside pic of the bike alone, I was wondering why my hands were hurting.

The ride is very different than the Bleriot, a bit more sure footed, not
twitchy at all. Feels slower but he bike is different and the tires are
48’s vs. 42’s. The bike fit is very good, longer stem than the Bleriot,
longer TT, I am actually surprised that it did not feel much longer. I
could hold the bars at the ends which is too upright for me on the Bleriot.

It felt like I was working harder, my legs told me that but I think part of
that was the many tweaks I had to stop and do.

I won’t ride for one or more days as I will be getting a Coolief treatment
on my left knee tomorrow morning, like Radio Frequency Ablation but a bit
cooler process. I do not want another TKR.

So tonight I may wrap the bars now that I know the squeaky brakes will work
themselves out and I will not be changing them, and the stem length seems
good, and put a rear rack on.

More to come I am sure.

Joel
Jason Fuller : Sep 03 02:41PM -0700

I don't doubt it feels quite a bit slower! But I bet it will ride so much
better with a load than the Bleriot. I'm amazed just how much slower my
Clem is vs. my Hillborne. It's a huge difference, well beyond tires, and
honestly it's kind of surprising. I imagine the Atlantis is closer to the
Clem than the Hillborne. Certainly made to achieve different goals though.
That build is gorgeous looking and looks like a great all-rounder as long
as you're not in too much of a hurry.
Joe Bernard : Sep 03 03:02PM -0700

That's a good looking bike, Joel! I love the way the Atlantis color pops in
the sun.

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 1:03:18 PM UTC-7 Joel wrote:

dougP : Sep 03 04:10PM -0700

Joel:

Great looking bike & I know you'll enjoy it. I too have an Atlantis & it's
my 95% of riding. BTW, what is that saddlebag? I'm looking for something
that's small & tidy like that, just for spare, tools, lock, just the small
stuff. Do you know how many liters it is?

dougP

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 1:03:18 PM UTC-7, Joel wrote:
Joel Stern : Sep 03 07:48PM -0400

Thanks Jason. I’m not in a hurry but I do like to go for rides where it is
not casual, if you know what I mean. I just did a ton of measurements. I
was spoiled as my old bike guy had all my numbers written down and my
tweaking was always minimal. I gave this guy, a nice guy, mu seat height,
how high I like the bars over the saddle, He even measured where the brake
lever were placed on the albatross on the Bleriot. All were off. Now it
really is my fault, I should have checked before I rode, so now I have the
saddle and bar height correct and only minor tweaking will be needed.

I was really surprised by how much the bar sloped vs the Bleriot, but in a
few rides I should have