Re: [RBW] Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread lukeheller 
I'm curious about this too as I'm about to start sewing my own bag and want 
a TALL bag... maybe 10 inches tall. I have always used VO decaleurs without 
issue but only on smaller bags.

The attraction of the VO decauleur is obviously the price... and the fact 
that I already them on 3 bikes. 

I have had success in making small adjustments to the VO decaleur by 
bending the angle of the arms but nothing drastic.

In looking at my current setup, I think I can get away with using the same 
decaleur but just move it to the top of the stack underneath the stem.. and 
then just bend the arms back up a bit

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:36:19 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>  On 05/28/2014 08:21 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>  
> I posted this on the Lifestyles list but didn't get any feedback. 
>
>  I use an Acorn Rondeneur bag on both my Saluki (62 CM/650B) with a VO 
> rack but no decaleur and on our Tandem (26" ) with an RBW Mark's rack and 
> no decaleur.  It works OK, but I am considering moving to a taller bag - 
> 250 - 270mm, which would require a decaleur.  The VO website suggests that 
> neither the rack nor decaleur are guaranteed to work with a tall bag. 
>
>  What rack & decaleurs are people using happily with these tall bags? 
>  What problems have you had to overcome?
>  
>  
> AFAIK the Berthoud GB28 and its fancier cousin, the GB2886 are the tallest 
> bags out there.  I use both: the 2886 with Berthoud decaleurs, the GB28 
> with the VO decaleur.  Both work fine.  There's much more adjustability 
> with the Berthoud decaleur, virtually none other than the location of the 
> spacer in the stack on the steerer tube with the VO; presumably that's what 
> the "not guaranteed to work" means.  There's also no adjustability to speak 
> of with the Grand Bois decaleur.  You have to size the bag according to the 
> amount of space provided between the rack and the handlebar (underside of 
> the stem handlebar clamp bolt, actually, in the case of the Berthoud) or 
> the head tube (more accurately, the spacer surrounding the steerer tube to 
> which the VO decaleur mounts).
>
> As for racks, nothing very critical there.  I'm using a TA rack that bolts 
> to a Mafac Raid centerpull to support the GB28, and have used a Berthoud 
> front rack, a VO Randonneur front rack and a custom Mitch Pryor front rack 
> to support the GB2886.  You absolutely do need a rack, and it should have a 
> "tombstone".   Here's a view of the GB2886 sitting on a Berthoud front 
> rack, supported by a Berthoud decaleur, on my (now Tony's) green Saluki 
> that illustrates the setup pretty well:
>
>
>  

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Re: [RBW] Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread David Yu Greenblatt 
A big bike deserves a big bag.
Here's my custom RuthWorks SF bag by Ely Rodriguez:
https://flic.kr/p/iJwL8X
It's larger than any stock Berthoud. It sits on a rack and is attached to
the stem by a Grand Bois decaleur. As Steve P said, this decaleur is not
adjustable.
The large volume of the bag is great.

Ely makes beautiful bags.
Here's one of his bags (sans decaleur) on a lovely Routens-esque Weigle:
https://flic.kr/p/nFwpPT

Ely's Flickr photos:
https://flic.kr/ps/sxuCr 

- David G in San Diego






On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Michael Hechmer  wrote:

> I posted this on the Lifestyles list but didn't get any feedback.
>
> I use an Acorn Rondeneur bag on both my Saluki (62 CM/650B) with a VO rack
> but no decaleur and on our Tandem (26" ) with an RBW Mark's rack and no
> decaleur.  It works OK, but I am considering moving to a taller bag - 250 -
> 270mm, which would require a decaleur.  The VO website suggests that
> neither the rack nor decaleur are guaranteed to work with a tall bag.
>
> What rack & decaleurs are people using happily with these tall bags?  What
> problems have you had to overcome?
>
> Michael
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Ron Mc 
11" tall Acorn rando with Bertaud decalur, but this is also with a very 
tall head tube and taller stem on a 64 cm frame.  


  

I think you could also make it work wiith a Nitto F-15 bag support on a 
smaller frame.  Michael, I sent you a pm trying to give you a Brooks saddle 
cover - did you receive it?  



On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:36:19 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>  On 05/28/2014 08:21 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>  
> I posted this on the Lifestyles list but didn't get any feedback. 
>
>  I use an Acorn Rondeneur bag on both my Saluki (62 CM/650B) with a VO 
> rack but no decaleur and on our Tandem (26" ) with an RBW Mark's rack and 
> no decaleur.  It works OK, but I am considering moving to a taller bag - 
> 250 - 270mm, which would require a decaleur.  The VO website suggests that 
> neither the rack nor decaleur are guaranteed to work with a tall bag. 
>
>  What rack & decaleurs are people using happily with these tall bags? 
>  What problems have you had to overcome?
>  
>  
> AFAIK the Berthoud GB28 and its fancier cousin, the GB2886 are the tallest 
> bags out there.  I use both: the 2886 with Berthoud decaleurs, the GB28 
> with the VO decaleur.  Both work fine.  There's much more adjustability 
> with the Berthoud decaleur, virtually none other than the location of the 
> spacer in the stack on the steerer tube with the VO; presumably that's what 
> the "not guaranteed to work" means.  There's also no adjustability to speak 
> of with the Grand Bois decaleur.  You have to size the bag according to the 
> amount of space provided between the rack and the handlebar (underside of 
> the stem handlebar clamp bolt, actually, in the case of the Berthoud) or 
> the head tube (more accurately, the spacer surrounding the steerer tube to 
> which the VO decaleur mounts).
>
> As for racks, nothing very critical there.  I'm using a TA rack that bolts 
> to a Mafac Raid centerpull to support the GB28, and have used a Berthoud 
> front rack, a VO Randonneur front rack and a custom Mitch Pryor front rack 
> to support the GB2886.  You absolutely do need a rack, and it should have a 
> "tombstone".   Here's a view of the GB2886 sitting on a Berthoud front 
> rack, supported by a Berthoud decaleur, on my (now Tony's) green Saluki 
> that illustrates the setup pretty well:
>
>
>  

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[RBW] Large Rando bag / rack / decaleur interface

2014-05-28 Thread Michael Hechmer 
I posted this on the Lifestyles list but didn't get any feedback.

I use an Acorn Rondeneur bag on both my Saluki (62 CM/650B) with a VO rack 
but no decaleur and on our Tandem (26" ) with an RBW Mark's rack and no 
decaleur.  It works OK, but I am considering moving to a taller bag - 250 - 
270mm, which would require a decaleur.  The VO website suggests that 
neither the rack nor decaleur are guaranteed to work with a tall bag.

What rack & decaleurs are people using happily with these tall bags?  What 
problems have you had to overcome?

Michael

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